You have no idea how much i look forward to new game sack episodes.I have been following ever since the mario vs. sonic video. Tons of excellent gameplay footage. No e-begging. I have seen you guys really expand (in quality and content) and i think you guys have a really bright future. Thanks for the content and keep up the good work!
The best bloody roar had to be primal fury on GameCube. The way the beast mechanics worked in that game felt more tactical than other entries. Also, you should keep an eye out for a ps1 fighting game called Cardinal Syn. I remember having such a blast with my mates on that game.
Joe, I want to correct you in something you said. In Bloody Roar you CAN break the walls and do a ring outs. Hell, you can do a Run+Transform attack to accomplish that. It's not only powerful, it looks AWESOME. It's the same for ALL the sequels and versions. Anyway, excellent choose of games. Lots of memories came back to me!
MerolaC Thanks for the info. I saw some walls break many times but never shatter completely away. I think there might be something in the options to disallow that if I recall.
Game Sack You are welcome! By default, the walls ONLY breaks in the second round. In the options you can set when the wall breaks Options are Never, Always and Second round.
I have been watching your show and because of it I bought a Genesis and Goulds'N Ghosts. Loving the console and the game. Thanks for making the show informed and broadening gaming horizons.
Games I'd like to see on the next fighting game episode: Wu-Tang Shaolin Style Power Moves Mace: The Dark Age WWF Wrestlemania - The Arcade Game King of the Monsters
My favorite part of this one was the way you knocked the Dreamcast controller away with the Saturn controller during the Guilty Gear overview. You guys are awesome!!
What a perfect surprise to find another GameSack episode for the 2nd week straight! I kill flies like that all the time, and the only suggestion I have for you guys is try throwing a hadoken at one, it's perfect for when you wanna be lazy!
GameSack friends! You guys kick all of the ass with your weekly Internet programming, so much enjoy! Fighting games get me all hopped up, as if I consumed an inordinate amount of Mountain Dew. This results in an eventual stream of piss resembling that of the Laser power-up from the glorious space shooter series Gradius! Just imagine if I were to live long enough to collect Options, what a mess that would be! Good job as always!
***** i believe because Ryu isn't using any Dark hado Power!! so do not even think that it's even cheap, when Ryu is taking it easy on all the SNK Characters, now who's cheap-(as in Capcom knows how to be Cheap in those modern times) because knowing Ryu is the only Character that can win against just about all the characters and not even fair because is my Main character but in this Chapter Ryu is given more Added bonus Tune Ups that all Characters do not possess, if oyu play it again i'm sure you'll see what i mean by this.
Arcader Kid That is one really long run on sentence! *Takes a deep breath* It really depends on when this game takes place in the timeline of Street Fighter. He doesn't really unlock the Dark Hado until later in the series.
Weekly Game Sack just might be the best thing since sliced bread. Interesting as always guys, Guilty Gear X looked so damn good. I wish more modern companies would attempt 2D fighters drawn like that again.
I really enjoyed "Star Gladiator", "Bugi" (Sacred Fist) as well as "Cardinal Syn" back then. Imho quite underrated and not really bad games. Hope to see them on a future episode. :D
A thought that's crossed my mind before is a whole episode on anime fighters. - A Guilty Gear game - A BlazBlue game - A Melty Blood game (PS2 JP) - An Arcana Heart game (PS2, PS3) - Fist of the North Star/ Hokuto No Ken (PS2 JP) - Sengoku Basara X (PS2 JP) - AquaPazza (PS3) Hundreds more out there, a lot of really obscure ones too if you go indie/doujin with games like Eternal Fighter Zero, Big Bang Beat, Yatagarasu and more. Oh, and Goenitz is still my favorite SNK boss of all time. Such style and class. He is one of the hardest SNK bosses, but honestly, I'd rather fight him than Krizalid.
There were actually 5 Toshinden games. Toshinden, Toshinden 2, Toshinden 3, Toshinden 4 (Toshinden Subaru in Japan), and a spin-off game, Battle Arena Nitoshinden -- which was basically "Toshinden Kids".
Thanks for everything Joe and Dave ! i love all your vids and you grew to be one of my favourite channels on YT, your content is very interesting and the way you describe how you enjoy games that are well designed ! I love everything ! Keep up the corny humour and the stop motion !
the N64 had some interesting exclusive fighting games that you can cover: Fighters Destiny 1 & 2 Mace the Dark Age Dark rift Killer Instinct gold Deadly Arts
Game Sack, thank you for finally covering the Bloody Roar series. No-one talks about it, and it's probably number 3 of my favorite fighting series (Oh, and 3 and Primal Fury are my favorites.)
SVC chaos looks awesome! I never tried it and I love fighting games. "Koko desu ka" means "Where is this"/"Where are you" or something along those lines depending on context.
I'm not huge into fighting games but my absolute fave is Bloody Roar Primal Fury on the Gamecube... I love the mechanics to it (most that you mentioned) like changing, getting new moves, strategies to regaining health, etc. Some of them transform into things other than animals (like strange mutants).
By the way, you didn't mention that Ehrgeiz has a pretty good interrupt/counter system pretty similar to "just defend" in SNK fighters. There were even detailed faqs for using it properly for tourneys back in the early 2000s.
Have you guys ever covered Dream Mix TV: World Fighters? I can't recall, but I don't think you have. And if not, that might be a good one for a future episode -- assuming Smash Brothers-style arena fighters count, anyway. Dream Mix TV was released on the PS2 and Gamecube in Japan, and was a joint venture from Hudson, Konami and Takara, so it features characters from all three of those companies' IPs. As a result, you can totally have a four-player Bomberman versus Optimus Prime versus Master Higgins from Adventure Island versus Simon Belmont match, or other such crazy things. The fighting itself is really basic, but I love the HP gimmick -- each match begins with HP crystals falling from the sky, and the four fighters all scramble to pick up as much as they can. When you attack opponents, HP gets knocked out of them, which other fighters can then pick up. And when you punch an opponent who has no HP left, his soul flies out -- but he's still in the match until somebody "catches" that soul. And if he manages to get to it first, he... I don't know, swallows it back up, I guess? And can go on fighting without incident. It's a neat game system that makes the whole experience a little different from other arena fighters, and while the fighting action really isn't super amazing or anything, the HP gimmick and the crazy roster of characters make up for it enough that I think it's worth checking out.
Wyrdwad But that game plays more like a brawler/smash clone than a [traditional] fighting game (not saying it's good or bad, just completely different style)
SNKega Yeah, but brawler/smash clones are still technically fighting games. Different style or no, I think it would still qualify for an episode like this.
@game sack My favourite Toshinden game was the third, purely for nostalgic reasons. It's not a great game but it has a lot of characters to unlock (because there's a clone for every good character) and the best character in that game is the Michael Jackson ripoff Ten Count. Technically there are 5 games, 4 on the PS1, although 4 only got a pal an Japanese release, and a rebirth on the WIi. Bloody Roar Primal Fury was my fave in the series, and I'm sure you guys will enjoy it when you get to it. Another small little bit of info, SNK vs Capcom was not a PAL only release for the Xbox, it did have a NTSC release here as well, I owned a copy myself until recently.
One fighting game I used to play a bunch back in the day was Evil Zone on the PS1. I played it again recently and it was actually pretty sweet. It might be worth checking out.
Game Sack im so glad you added castlevania judgment... now I have to petition you guys to do the full series episode! soon eh? but on the topic of music... what did you think of the music score of judgment?
Nick Cress I played Evil Zone so much years ago, I even unlocked the "special" congratulations message where they all just talked about the sequel that never happened :'(
One thing you didn't mention was the artwork for Castlevania Judgment was done by the same dude who gave us the manga and anime "Death Note". Anyway, nice work here!
I love the Total Control 3 as well for the DC! Such a great little gadget. I would recommend covering World Heroes Perfect for the Sega Saturn in a future fighting game episode. All around just a fun fighter with great gameplay and music. Also, love the Dreamcast shirt! Keep up the good work guys. Your vids always make my week.
I am so happy you guys added _Battle Arena Toshinden 2_ to this video. The first three games are absolutely awesome and the first two in particular are a big part of my childhood! The third one is a little lazy in terms of unlockable characters and the fourth one is... very unusual, to say the least, but all and all, it's a pretty great series with a lot of memorable characters! There's even a one-shot cartoon for it, which is also really great!
I might be wrong but what Joe said about SNK vs Capcom at the 4:00 min mark was the other way around because we were selling us xbox copies of the game but no ps2.
I know that if you guys do another fighting game episode that the next logical step for Guilty Gear is to talk about Guilty Gear X2, but that is by far my favorite 2D fighter ever. The characters they added, the music, the character originality, unique move sets, and unlockable characters makes it almost impossible to compete with. Other fighters that I have thoroughly enjoyed over the years are JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Gundam Battle Assault 2. An "interesting" one that you could talk about is Wu-Tang Clan: Shaolin Style on the PS1. I'm not saying that it's a great game (by any means) but I did manage to have the perseverance to beat the story mode once. I hope you enjoy playing these games!
You guys need to do VR GAMES!!! (I don't think you have!) Do some oculus games, and show off the virtual boy and other weird old VR stuff that we've never heard of. I saw there is actually an original zelda remake in VR, and you can actually run emulators in VR too, lots of potential for a long episode. It'd also be funny watching you both react to some of the games. If u need an oculus, I guess I could let you borrow mine :o
22:06 - "STUPID FLY!!!" On a similar note, there's this new thing on GSN known to take the place of an ad break known as Man vs. Fly. You winning that 'fight' reminded me of that, Joe!
Castlevania Judgment looks good indeed. Never played it though as I was too pissed that it wasn't a proper Castlevania action game (ain't a big fan of fighting games, my favorite one is still Mortal Kombat II). Nice ending btw you guys are the best!
The most notable thing about Bloody Roar is that changing into an animal is known as "beast mode" which SOMEHOW BECAME A JOCK CATCH PHRASE. You can go to NFL stadiums and see graphics encouraging players to enter Beast Mode. It's like being in the twilight zone.
Power Quest on Game Boy color! You buy a robot, fight other robots, earn money to buy new parts to improve your robot.. it's a really underrated game. The only thing that really sucks about it is that there is a password save
Here are some suggestions for the next fighting game segment. 1. Zero Divide 1&2-PS1 2. Time Killers-Sega Genesis/Arcade 3. Deadly Arts-N64 4. Fatal Fury Wild Ambition-PS1
Gonna list a bunch of less-well-known fighters, hopefully I'm not mentioning any you've already covered: 1. Garou - Mark of the Wolves 2. Star Gladiator. I know, it's kinda bad, but the arcade intro is hilarious 3. Samurai Shodown series - I think you might have covered a few, but I really like 2 and 3 4. Cyberbots - an interesting mech fighter from capcom 5. Pocket Fighter - chibi capcom fighter
I love fighting games. I used to go to an arcade called Capcom Station and spend hours playing fighting games and shoot em ups. There's this game called Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix that I enjoyed a lot.
Out of the Gazillion gaming channels out there......the sack is one of my favorites. Dunno why I am stating this today on a video from 4 years ago....what the hell !!! Love you guys, Hope your still going in 202......actually, I know you still are.....yay
Nice selection, never really scene one or two of these so it was quite informative for those. When I got my copy of Bloody Roar 2 the dealer gave it to me for free because there was a ring on the outer section of the disc and he thought it wouldn't work but when I got home and tried it the game ran perfectly, the ring must have been on a section of the disc that had no data on it.
SVC Chaos... I remember when I bought PlayStation 2 in 2010, I wanted to get SVC Chaos, because it had Zero in it. After playing it for a while, I started liking the SNK characters more. I liked their desings more than Capcom one's. This was my gateway to SNK fighters and SNK games in general, as shortly after I bought KOF 2002, 98UM, the SNK collections and finally, the best SNK fighting game ever, KOF XI (you should really try that one) I can also appreciate that SNK included more obscure characters in the game, like Earthquake, Tessa and Mars People. Also, Serious Mr. Karate boss is one badass. It was also nice to see some fighters from my childhood. It sure has been long time since I last saw Bloody Roar and Battle Arena Toshinden.
ALL great videos. In depth, and with lots of information. So when is *Game* *Sack* going to finally give us a Question-and-Answer video so we can learn more about Joe and Dave, and how you came to be where you are making these great videos, and anything else about you and your channel. The first question I would like to add to the QnA list (of a hopefully future video), is what video editing programs do you use for all your effects? Thanks again guys.
Tekken 3, Tekken Tag Tournament and Marvel vs Capcom are my favourites as well as Super Street Fighter II Turbo Revival on the GBA. The controls were amazing on that game and basic mode made pulling off Hadoukens and specials all the more easier and enjoyable.
Awesome to see you put in Eiji's theme from Battle Arena Toshinden 2/URA - it was one of my favourite BGM's back in the day. Had to track down the PSX BAT2 just for the extended versions of the tracks though, as the versions in URA are truncated a fair bit. Awesome picks too. Would love to see you cover some of the more quirky, b-grade fighters on the Saturn, like D-Xhird, Zero Divide: The Final Conflict and, if you're up for a laugh, FIST. FIST is a really, really bad fighter with only a handful of moves for each character, but I think it straddles the border of so bad it's good. I got it purely for the soundtrack for $5 AUD, and found myself putting more time into the game than I'd care to admit...
Great episode. I really like both versions of Capcom/SNK crossovers but I like SVC a little bit more then Capcom vs SNK because I used to play much more The King of Fighters than Street Fighter so SvC visuals and gameplay attract me more.
The mighty Guilty Gear \m/ Ah yes only the best damn 2D fighting franchise ever to grace arcades and consoles alike. I would say give Isuka a look since that one plays quite different from many other fighters let alone other Guilty Gear games. The quest mode in Ehrgeiz is where me and my buddies spent a ton of our time, it's surprisingly fun for an extra little dungeon crawler mode thrown in for the hell of it. I just wish you could take any of the game characters in there at some point or hell just them make a sequel based purely around that perhaps.
I have guilty gear isuka, and I don't think it's better than the 1 vs 1 fightinf style, its really caothic at times and you can get raped in the arcade mode, when a team decides to attack you from both sides. The lack of story doesn't helps. Besides that its a really fun fighting game to play in a cooperative mode.
I've been playing Castlevania Judgement. I was a little weirded out by them including a golem as one of the playable characters, but he was characterized so well that I actually found him adorable.
Funny you guys mention Bloody Roar. The last one that they made was exclusive on the GameCube called Bloody Roar: Primal Rage. Kind of have a soft spot for this series since me and my cousin played this a lot back then.
My favorite Bloody Roar game is definitely part 3! Some fighting games you should cover in the future: Marvel Vs. Capcom, Tastunoko Vs. Capcom, Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Dragon Ball Z Budokai, Blaz Blue, Skullgirls, Godzilla Unleashed, Battle Fantasia, and Persona 4 Arena.
A few obscure fighting games I really enjoy that might be worth looking into are "Dream Mix World TV Fighters" for GCN in Japan: A Smash Bros type fighter with a weird mix of characters including Simon Belmont, Bomberman and Megatron, yes I'm serious. Another, more of a wrestling type game, but still really neat: "Ultimate Muscle" also on GCN but in all regions. A fun beat em up game with a lot of quirky personality, one of the last AKI wrestling games akin to the N64 wrestling games.
Man, back when I was 8 years old my friends and I played so many fucking hours of Ehergiz. The mini games were fun as hell when you're with a bunch of buds, plus the single player quest mode was soooo fun when you were solo. A truly underrated awesome game.
A great episode on the genre that people either like or hate - for me it's the first. And let's hope to see more because you've barely scratched the surface - would be nice to see an episode on arcade fighting games - MAME library is full of them, and perhaps there are more great arcade exclusives than in any other genre.
Your going weekly now!! that's awesome!! Great that bloody roar has been covered!! my fav was and still BR3, but nothing can be compared with SF & MK!!
Game Sack I wonder if it had to do with more operators removing Neo-Geo cabs during that time. That's around 2003-2004, so it seems plausible that Playmore might want to give the option to release those games as either a Neo-Geo kit or a JAMMA conversion. That was also around the time they were getting ready to move to the Atomiswave platform, too.
While I have no love for the anime, Naruto (I like to pronounce it "na-root-o", like Menudo) Ultimate Ninja 3 is a great fighting game. Multi-tiered beautiful levels, fast paced game play, original fighting mechanics, numerous items for battle, teleports done right (I'm lookin' at you DBZ), all make this a memorable game for me. Also some extended coverage on the Last Blade series would be cool imo. And any and all NeoGeo is always appreciated. That machine never ceases to amaze me. My AES is #013574 and I want it buried with me. Keep up the good work fellas!!
I definitely gotta do some Beastorizing for the channel some time. I've barely gotten to touch the Bloody Roar games, but the concept always spoke to me. I remember playing the Toshinden 1 and 2 demos for PC and Playstation respectively, I seem to recall them feeling a bit clunky, but maybe they deserve a revisit as well. Thanks again for some ideas, Sackeys. :)
Great episode! Maybe if you do another you could include Fighting Vipers (not Fighters Mega Mix as that always gets brought up more than FV, and wasn't as good imo). Also I saw there is a final fight tournament fighter too. Sorry if you have included both in previous videos but if you haven't, may in the next Fighting Games episode :)
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You have no idea how much i look forward to new game sack episodes.I have been following ever since the mario vs. sonic video. Tons of excellent gameplay footage. No e-begging. I have seen you guys really expand (in quality and content) and i think you guys have a really bright future. Thanks for the content and keep up the good work!
TheMentalRelapse Thank You!
Weekly Game Sack kicks so much ass.
KOKODESUKA!
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gents can I just say how ecstatic I am that these vids are now weekly. brightens up my Sunday! thank you!
Krishan Pandya Awesome! Thanks for watching..
The best bloody roar had to be primal fury on GameCube. The way the beast mechanics worked in that game felt more tactical than other entries. Also, you should keep an eye out for a ps1 fighting game called Cardinal Syn. I remember having such a blast with my mates on that game.
Oh, and Dissidia on PSP :)
Please NEVER RETIRE this show, it brings too much happiness to my life.
Game Sack and fighting games....2 of my favorite things together to take my mind off the fact that school starts again this week. :)
Joe, I want to correct you in something you said.
In Bloody Roar you CAN break the walls and do a ring outs.
Hell, you can do a Run+Transform attack to accomplish that. It's not only powerful, it looks AWESOME.
It's the same for ALL the sequels and versions.
Anyway, excellent choose of games. Lots of memories came back to me!
MerolaC Thanks for the info. I saw some walls break many times but never shatter completely away. I think there might be something in the options to disallow that if I recall.
Game Sack You are welcome!
By default, the walls ONLY breaks in the second round.
In the options you can set when the wall breaks
Options are Never, Always and Second round.
I have been watching your show and because of it I bought a Genesis and Goulds'N Ghosts. Loving the console and the game. Thanks for making the show informed and broadening gaming horizons.
Games I'd like to see on the next fighting game episode:
Wu-Tang Shaolin Style
Power Moves
Mace: The Dark Age
WWF Wrestlemania - The Arcade Game
King of the Monsters
Oh man. The ending skit has me in tears. Literally. I had to lay down and cry because I laughed until it hurt when they fly exploded.
My favorite part of this one was the way you knocked the Dreamcast controller away with the Saturn controller during the Guilty Gear overview. You guys are awesome!!
YES! You did go back to weekly. Thank your family Dave!!!
You know, this whole gamesack every week thing is amazing.
Ehrgeiz AND Bloody Roar 1 &2?!?!?!? Nostalgia overload, you guys nailed this one!!
I'm so happy you guys went back to a weekly show. Now my interim weekends won't suck.
Dave, please give Bushido Blade another chance. I once played 100 p.v.p. battles in a row. Lost most. This is the best show on youtube thank you!
Much better than last week. Gave the games a chance, researched them properly. The Amiga episode deserved to be like this.
+Game Sack SVC chaos was also port to the XBox in North America. Also I think you could choose to play as Zero.
+mage davee Yeah, the Mega Man Zero version, not the cooler Mega Man X version :( I'd take the boob lights over the man thong every time.
Remembering you guys are now weekly always brings joy to my heart
What a perfect surprise to find another GameSack episode for the 2nd week straight! I kill flies like that all the time, and the only suggestion I have for you guys is try throwing a hadoken at one, it's perfect for when you wanna be lazy!
GameSack friends! You guys kick all of the ass with your weekly Internet programming, so much enjoy! Fighting games get me all hopped up, as if I consumed an inordinate amount of Mountain Dew. This results in an eventual stream of piss resembling that of the Laser power-up from the glorious space shooter series Gradius! Just imagine if I were to live long enough to collect Options, what a mess that would be! Good job as always!
How the hell does Ryu say nothing like a fair fight when Goenitz was so cheap lol
***** My thoughts exactly.
***** Only thing I could come up with is Maybe ryu met his match in fireball spamming. HAHAHA
***** i believe because Ryu isn't using any Dark hado Power!! so do not even think that it's even cheap, when Ryu is taking it easy on all the SNK Characters, now who's cheap-(as in Capcom knows how to be Cheap in those modern times) because knowing Ryu is the only Character that can win against just about all the characters and not even fair because is my Main character but in this Chapter Ryu is given more Added bonus Tune Ups that all Characters do not possess, if oyu play it again i'm sure you'll see what i mean by this.
Arcader Kid
That is one really long run on sentence! *Takes a deep breath*
It really depends on when this game takes place in the timeline of Street Fighter. He doesn't really unlock the Dark Hado until later in the series.
gozinta82 LOL!! That is very much true, after all it only happens in Alpha series plus Ken afterwards follows Ryu into the dark Hado.
Nothing better than a Game Sack episode before bed! :D
King of Fighters is like the soccer of fighting games
Captain Karnage Incredible excellent, then? :P
Captain Karnage You mean like where there's tons of random kicking and you hope none of it lands to your groin?
Captain Karnage you mean that it's very popular, yet very boring
What I mean by that is it's super popular all around the world exept the us
Captain Karnage I'm from South America and I expected a Mexican joke, dammit.
I could watch an 8 hour episode of Game Sack every Sunday.
Another great video, guys! So glad you are doing weekly vids now!
guys I've seen all your videos and love how detailed you are on your reviews and try to find the good in them even if they're subpar.
Weekly Game Sack just might be the best thing since sliced bread. Interesting as always guys, Guilty Gear X looked so damn good. I wish more modern companies would attempt 2D fighters drawn like that again.
This is one of the best ones ive seen in a long time from you guys
So glad you guys are doing weekly again
I really enjoyed "Star Gladiator", "Bugi" (Sacred Fist) as well as "Cardinal Syn" back then. Imho quite underrated and not really bad games. Hope to see them on a future episode. :D
A thought that's crossed my mind before is a whole episode on anime fighters.
- A Guilty Gear game
- A BlazBlue game
- A Melty Blood game (PS2 JP)
- An Arcana Heart game (PS2, PS3)
- Fist of the North Star/ Hokuto No Ken (PS2 JP)
- Sengoku Basara X (PS2 JP)
- AquaPazza (PS3)
Hundreds more out there, a lot of really obscure ones too if you go indie/doujin with games like Eternal Fighter Zero, Big Bang Beat, Yatagarasu and more.
Oh, and Goenitz is still my favorite SNK boss of all time. Such style and class. He is one of the hardest SNK bosses, but honestly, I'd rather fight him than Krizalid.
There were actually 5 Toshinden games. Toshinden, Toshinden 2, Toshinden 3, Toshinden 4 (Toshinden Subaru in Japan), and a spin-off game, Battle Arena Nitoshinden -- which was basically "Toshinden Kids".
Thanks for everything Joe and Dave ! i love all your vids and you grew to be one of my favourite channels on YT, your content is very interesting and the way you describe how you enjoy games that are well designed ! I love everything ! Keep up the corny humour and the stop motion !
I would love to see a random shoot em up episode or maybe a second frustrating games episode. great episode either way :)
I'll watch this tomorrow morning during breakfast. Thanks Game Sack _!_
The Pickles Not a problem. :)
Game Sack
Suggestions for next time: Dark Rift and Mace: the Dark Age.
Both N64, can't remember if you already covered them, so...
great vid as always. thanks for talking about the mighty Neo Geo !
the N64 had some interesting exclusive fighting games that you can cover:
Fighters Destiny 1 & 2
Mace the Dark Age
Dark rift
Killer Instinct gold
Deadly Arts
Game Sack is still my fav channel on youtubes. So good I Liked and commented before I even watched it.
Game Sack, thank you for finally covering the Bloody Roar series. No-one talks about it, and it's probably number 3 of my favorite fighting series (Oh, and 3 and Primal Fury are my favorites.)
Good to see Battle Arena Toshinden 2! One of my favorite old series that nobody likes anymore but me!
SVC chaos looks awesome! I never tried it and I love fighting games.
"Koko desu ka" means "Where is this"/"Where are you" or something along those lines depending on context.
STUPID FLY! *I'm crying. I love you guys*
I'm not huge into fighting games but my absolute fave is Bloody Roar Primal Fury on the Gamecube... I love the mechanics to it (most that you mentioned) like changing, getting new moves, strategies to regaining health, etc. Some of them transform into things other than animals (like strange mutants).
6 segments instead of 10, but each segment was slightly longer and more detailed.
and noticeably more humor. probably the funniest episode yet.
By the way, you didn't mention that Ehrgeiz has a pretty good interrupt/counter system pretty similar to "just defend" in SNK fighters. There were even detailed faqs for using it properly for tourneys back in the early 2000s.
Have you guys ever covered Dream Mix TV: World Fighters? I can't recall, but I don't think you have. And if not, that might be a good one for a future episode -- assuming Smash Brothers-style arena fighters count, anyway.
Dream Mix TV was released on the PS2 and Gamecube in Japan, and was a joint venture from Hudson, Konami and Takara, so it features characters from all three of those companies' IPs. As a result, you can totally have a four-player Bomberman versus Optimus Prime versus Master Higgins from Adventure Island versus Simon Belmont match, or other such crazy things.
The fighting itself is really basic, but I love the HP gimmick -- each match begins with HP crystals falling from the sky, and the four fighters all scramble to pick up as much as they can. When you attack opponents, HP gets knocked out of them, which other fighters can then pick up. And when you punch an opponent who has no HP left, his soul flies out -- but he's still in the match until somebody "catches" that soul. And if he manages to get to it first, he... I don't know, swallows it back up, I guess? And can go on fighting without incident.
It's a neat game system that makes the whole experience a little different from other arena fighters, and while the fighting action really isn't super amazing or anything, the HP gimmick and the crazy roster of characters make up for it enough that I think it's worth checking out.
Wyrdwad It's an awesome game, I've been trying to find that :)
Wyrdwad But that game plays more like a brawler/smash clone than a [traditional] fighting game (not saying it's good or bad, just completely different style)
SNKega Yeah, but brawler/smash clones are still technically fighting games. Different style or no, I think it would still qualify for an episode like this.
Wyrdwad
I would expect a few more fighting game episodes in the future, so many decent titles to cover!
+Wyrdwad ahh that game was fun... but kinda lacked deepness.
@game sack
My favourite Toshinden game was the third, purely for nostalgic reasons. It's not a great game but it has a lot of characters to unlock (because there's a clone for every good character) and the best character in that game is the Michael Jackson ripoff Ten Count. Technically there are 5 games, 4 on the PS1, although 4 only got a pal an Japanese release, and a rebirth on the WIi.
Bloody Roar Primal Fury was my fave in the series, and I'm sure you guys will enjoy it when you get to it. Another small little bit of info, SNK vs Capcom was not a PAL only release for the Xbox, it did have a NTSC release here as well, I owned a copy myself until recently.
One fighting game I used to play a bunch back in the day was Evil Zone on the PS1. I played it again recently and it was actually pretty sweet. It might be worth checking out.
Nick Cress I have yet to play that one but am very familiar with it's awesome music. We'll have to add it to the list.
Game Sack
im so glad you added castlevania judgment... now I have to petition you guys to do the full series episode! soon eh? but on the topic of music... what did you think of the music score of judgment?
Nick Cress I played Evil Zone so much years ago, I even unlocked the "special" congratulations message where they all just talked about the sequel that never happened :'(
One thing you didn't mention was the artwork for Castlevania Judgment was done by the same dude who gave us the manga and anime "Death Note".
Anyway, nice work here!
I love the Total Control 3 as well for the DC! Such a great little gadget. I would recommend covering World Heroes Perfect for the Sega Saturn in a future fighting game episode. All around just a fun fighter with great gameplay and music. Also, love the Dreamcast shirt! Keep up the good work guys. Your vids always make my week.
The music was easily the best thing about Castlevania Judgment. Made me enjoy the game much more than I would've otherwise.
I am so happy you guys added _Battle Arena Toshinden 2_ to this video. The first three games are absolutely awesome and the first two in particular are a big part of my childhood! The third one is a little lazy in terms of unlockable characters and the fourth one is... very unusual, to say the least, but all and all, it's a pretty great series with a lot of memorable characters! There's even a one-shot cartoon for it, which is also really great!
"he's also an archaeologist so naturally he's also searching for the secret of immortality"
lol
I might be wrong but what Joe said about SNK vs Capcom at the 4:00 min mark was the other way around because we were selling us xbox copies of the game but no ps2.
Bloody roar was one of my all time favorites as a kid. I played that game for hours.
I know that if you guys do another fighting game episode that the next logical step for Guilty Gear is to talk about Guilty Gear X2, but that is by far my favorite 2D fighter ever. The characters they added, the music, the character originality, unique move sets, and unlockable characters makes it almost impossible to compete with.
Other fighters that I have thoroughly enjoyed over the years are JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Gundam Battle Assault 2.
An "interesting" one that you could talk about is Wu-Tang Clan: Shaolin Style on the PS1. I'm not saying that it's a great game (by any means) but I did manage to have the perseverance to beat the story mode once.
I hope you enjoy playing these games!
You guys need to do VR GAMES!!! (I don't think you have!) Do some oculus games, and show off the virtual boy and other weird old VR stuff that we've never heard of. I saw there is actually an original zelda remake in VR, and you can actually run emulators in VR too, lots of potential for a long episode. It'd also be funny watching you both react to some of the games.
If u need an oculus, I guess I could let you borrow mine :o
22:06 - "STUPID FLY!!!"
On a similar note, there's this new thing on GSN known to take the place of an ad break known as Man vs. Fly. You winning that 'fight' reminded me of that, Joe!
BLOODY..... ROAR....... broke many friendships with this game. fave character was the chameleon dude
Castlevania Judgment looks good indeed. Never played it though as I was too pissed that it wasn't a proper Castlevania action game (ain't a big fan of fighting games, my favorite one is still Mortal Kombat II).
Nice ending btw you guys are the best!
don't know if they've been covered before but i really like the power stone games on dreamcast.
The most notable thing about Bloody Roar is that changing into an animal is known as "beast mode" which SOMEHOW BECAME A JOCK CATCH PHRASE. You can go to NFL stadiums and see graphics encouraging players to enter Beast Mode. It's like being in the twilight zone.
Power Quest on Game Boy color! You buy a robot, fight other robots, earn money to buy new parts to improve your robot.. it's a really underrated game. The only thing that really sucks about it is that there is a password save
Heavy metal geometric on the Dreamcast was an enjoyable 3D fighter with a metal soundtrack. Great vide as always guys!
stogash it is geomatrix douche hole
Here are some suggestions for the next fighting game segment.
1. Zero Divide 1&2-PS1
2. Time Killers-Sega Genesis/Arcade
3. Deadly Arts-N64
4. Fatal Fury Wild Ambition-PS1
Gonna list a bunch of less-well-known fighters, hopefully I'm not mentioning any you've already covered:
1. Garou - Mark of the Wolves
2. Star Gladiator. I know, it's kinda bad, but the arcade intro is hilarious
3. Samurai Shodown series - I think you might have covered a few, but I really like 2 and 3
4. Cyberbots - an interesting mech fighter from capcom
5. Pocket Fighter - chibi capcom fighter
Nothing like a dose of weekly sack.
Battle Arena Toshinden and Bloody Roar, Hell Yea!
Interesting
Edit: That ending skit was fantastic.
I love fighting games. I used to go to an arcade called Capcom Station and spend hours playing fighting games and shoot em ups. There's this game called Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix that I enjoyed a lot.
Out of the Gazillion gaming channels out there......the sack is one of my favorites. Dunno why I am stating this today on a video from 4 years ago....what the hell !!! Love you guys, Hope your still going in 202......actually, I know you still are.....yay
Poor, poor Dave... the Committee for Everyone Should Have The Same Opinion is going to having a very long "talk" with him about Castlevania Judgement.
Nice selection, never really scene one or two of these so it was quite informative for those. When I got my copy of Bloody Roar 2 the dealer gave it to me for free because there was a ring on the outer section of the disc and he thought it wouldn't work but when I got home and tried it the game ran perfectly, the ring must have been on a section of the disc that had no data on it.
I wish the footage in this episode was in 60fps. In fighting games, you've _GOT_ to have 60fps!
+Shane the Freestyler Fighting games and racing games.
Gender Neutral Chibi Thing more like anything that has real time action
protocetid Well, pretty much any game on any platform, but that's not the subject here. o3o
Shane the Freestyler turn based games are ok with 30 and nicer graphics and some puzzle games too I suppose
Winning with the fart move that the old guy has in toshinden 2 is amazing.
SVC Chaos...
I remember when I bought PlayStation 2 in 2010, I wanted to get SVC Chaos, because it had Zero in it. After playing it for a while, I started liking the SNK characters more. I liked their desings more than Capcom one's. This was my gateway to SNK fighters and SNK games in general, as shortly after I bought KOF 2002, 98UM, the SNK collections and finally, the best SNK fighting game ever, KOF XI (you should really try that one)
I can also appreciate that SNK included more obscure characters in the game, like Earthquake, Tessa and Mars People. Also, Serious Mr. Karate boss is one badass.
It was also nice to see some fighters from my childhood. It sure has been long time since I last saw Bloody Roar and Battle Arena Toshinden.
YES! NEW VID!!! best channel on youtube!
Great episode! btw, SNK vs. Capcom was released on the og XBOX in AMERICA as well, Joe, FYI.
ALL great videos. In depth, and with lots of information.
So when is *Game* *Sack* going to finally give us a Question-and-Answer video so we can learn more about Joe and Dave, and how you came to be where you are making these great videos, and anything else about you and your channel.
The first question I would like to add to the QnA list (of a hopefully future video), is what video editing programs do you use for all your effects? Thanks again guys.
Tekken 3, Tekken Tag Tournament and Marvel vs Capcom are my favourites as well as Super Street Fighter II Turbo Revival on the GBA. The controls were amazing on that game and basic mode made pulling off Hadoukens and specials all the more easier and enjoyable.
Awesome to see you put in Eiji's theme from Battle Arena Toshinden 2/URA - it was one of my favourite BGM's back in the day. Had to track down the PSX BAT2 just for the extended versions of the tracks though, as the versions in URA are truncated a fair bit. Awesome picks too. Would love to see you cover some of the more quirky, b-grade fighters on the Saturn, like D-Xhird, Zero Divide: The Final Conflict and, if you're up for a laugh, FIST. FIST is a really, really bad fighter with only a handful of moves for each character, but I think it straddles the border of so bad it's good. I got it purely for the soundtrack for $5 AUD, and found myself putting more time into the game than I'd care to admit...
Great episode. I really like both versions of Capcom/SNK crossovers but I like SVC a little bit more then Capcom vs SNK because I used to play much more The King of Fighters than Street Fighter so SvC visuals and gameplay attract me more.
The mighty Guilty Gear \m/ Ah yes only the best damn 2D fighting franchise ever to grace arcades and consoles alike. I would say give Isuka a look since that one plays quite different from many other fighters let alone other Guilty Gear games.
The quest mode in Ehrgeiz is where me and my buddies spent a ton of our time, it's surprisingly fun for an extra little dungeon crawler mode thrown in for the hell of it. I just wish you could take any of the game characters in there at some point or hell just them make a sequel based purely around that perhaps.
I have guilty gear isuka, and I don't think it's better than the 1 vs 1 fightinf style, its really caothic at times and you can get raped in the arcade mode, when a team decides to attack you from both sides. The lack of story doesn't helps. Besides that its a really fun fighting game to play in a cooperative mode.
I've been playing Castlevania Judgement. I was a little weirded out by them including a golem as one of the playable characters, but he was characterized so well that I actually found him adorable.
Funny you guys mention Bloody Roar. The last one that they made was exclusive on the GameCube called Bloody Roar: Primal Rage. Kind of have a soft spot for this series since me and my cousin played this a lot back then.
My favorite Bloody Roar game is definitely part 3!
Some fighting games you should cover in the future: Marvel Vs. Capcom, Tastunoko Vs. Capcom, Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Dragon Ball Z Budokai, Blaz Blue, Skullgirls, Godzilla Unleashed, Battle Fantasia, and Persona 4 Arena.
Now I can't unsee Sephirot doing all Yoshimitsu's moves xD
You guys are on fire. How do you manage to produce so much high quality content in so little time?
A few obscure fighting games I really enjoy that might be worth looking into are "Dream Mix World TV Fighters" for GCN in Japan: A Smash Bros type fighter with a weird mix of characters including Simon Belmont, Bomberman and Megatron, yes I'm serious.
Another, more of a wrestling type game, but still really neat: "Ultimate Muscle" also on GCN but in all regions. A fun beat em up game with a lot of quirky personality, one of the last AKI wrestling games akin to the N64 wrestling games.
1. Tattoo Assassins
2. Blood Storm
3. Fighting Vipers
4. Rival Schools
5. Time Killers
Man, back when I was 8 years old my friends and I played so many fucking hours of Ehergiz. The mini games were fun as hell when you're with a bunch of buds, plus the single player quest mode was soooo fun when you were solo. A truly underrated awesome game.
A great episode on the genre that people either like or hate - for me it's the first. And let's hope to see more because you've barely scratched the surface - would be nice to see an episode on arcade fighting games - MAME library is full of them, and perhaps there are more great arcade exclusives than in any other genre.
Your going weekly now!! that's awesome!!
Great that bloody roar has been covered!! my fav was and still BR3, but nothing can be compared with SF & MK!!
I actually just got a SVC Chaos PCB a few days ago. Great fun!
Marc Marta I always found it kind of weird how a lot of later Neo Geo games were on their own PCB and not just carts. I've got a Metal Slug 5 PCB.
Game Sack I wonder if it had to do with more operators removing Neo-Geo cabs during that time. That's around 2003-2004, so it seems plausible that Playmore might want to give the option to release those games as either a Neo-Geo kit or a JAMMA conversion. That was also around the time they were getting ready to move to the Atomiswave platform, too.
While I have no love for the anime, Naruto (I like to pronounce it "na-root-o", like Menudo) Ultimate Ninja 3 is a great fighting game. Multi-tiered beautiful levels, fast paced game play, original fighting mechanics, numerous items for battle, teleports done right (I'm lookin' at you DBZ), all make this a memorable game for me. Also some extended coverage on the Last Blade series would be cool imo. And any and all NeoGeo is always appreciated. That machine never ceases to amaze me. My AES is #013574 and I want it buried with me. Keep up the good work fellas!!
I definitely gotta do some Beastorizing for the channel some time. I've barely gotten to touch the Bloody Roar games, but the concept always spoke to me. I remember playing the Toshinden 1 and 2 demos for PC and Playstation respectively, I seem to recall them feeling a bit clunky, but maybe they deserve a revisit as well. Thanks again for some ideas, Sackeys. :)
love the end skits thank you for the laughs
Great episode! Maybe if you do another you could include Fighting Vipers (not Fighters Mega Mix as that always gets brought up more than FV, and wasn't as good imo). Also I saw there is a final fight tournament fighter too. Sorry if you have included both in previous videos but if you haven't, may in the next Fighting Games episode :)