@Cameron Clark People like to imagine there's some sort of magic involved with this stuff, which there isn't. The same is true of hifi. There are all sorts of myths around about why this or that version of a particular component is better, and that mythology is often based around "and they don't make it any more" to make it not just magical, but rare and magical. As you say, Physics and Electronics doesn't work like that. There are some good reasons to spend more on certain old versions of analogue pedals, but tone is usually not that reason.
@Cameron Clark Josh from JHS has said that even though circuits can all the same, pedal to pedal can vary in terms of where the knobs are. He said with absolute confidence that 3 morning glories all made back to back set to 12 would all sound different. Again nothing to do with the fact you can copy circuits ( I.E Beringher) and re-create the sound, just found it to be a cool peice of info.
Impossible to deny. Based on the audio here on RUclips, even through strong quality cans, ToneCity appear to have created near perfect clones across the board...Yes - impressed. As Josh Scott says - you can't patent a circuit. Really compelling, thought-provoking vid here.
One of the best things I bought from Anderton's is the ODR1. Really good recommendation. I use the gain on 9>12, spectrum on 3 and stack with another low drive pedal or boost
All the Tone City pedals were pretty much spot on with the sound they were trying to emulate. I personally think it’s a great thing making great sound and tone accessible to everyone including beginners with no or little budget and the experienced guitarist alike.
Honestly, all of them, with the exception of the Muff/Moof were all incredibly close sounding, and in a couple cases, I actually preferred the Tone City ones because I thought they actually had a bit more clarity without sacrificing any of the tone, dynamics, gain structure or feel. I'm wearing pretty good headphones and I thought the Nobles/Nobleman, Morning Glory/Blues Man and the Rattler/Mickey were so close that I think all it required was a bit of very fine tuning to get them to sound virtually identical. The only noticeable difference I heard was between the Big Muff and the Moof (I know it's called the Matcha Cream, I'm just being silly here in honour of Rob lol). But when the Moof was compared with the Russian Pickle, it was very close, and again, I think all it required was some fine tweaking to get them to be on par with each other. As someone mentioned already, it seems the Moof is much more of a Russian Muff clone than an American Muff clone, and at that, it does a good job. Well done, Tone City! I honestly think this video just saved me some money, because I'll probably get a Nobleman instead of a Nobles ODR-1 now, as well as the Blues Man and maybe even a Mickey just for poos and chortles. As a side note though: it doesn't matter where the knobs are positioned from one pedal to the next. No matter what pedal it is - whether comparing different brands or even identical pedal models - the differences in the taper of the pots alone makes a huge difference in where the tones will be similar, or the same when comparing pedals. Not to mention minor capacitor and other part tolerances can make slight differences as well. To me, what I do is take the original, find a tone (or two) I like and then match that with the clone pedal. More often than not you can get startlingly close, or even to where you can't hear a difference in tone or feel whatsoever. After that is achieved, wherever the tone controls on the clone pedal are set is completely irrelevant. I think people get WAY too hung up on that. They'll set all the controls at 12 o'clock on each pedal, hear that there are differences and then assume the clone "isn't the same" or "is no good", simply because the tolerances and taper of the pots are different from pedal to pedal. Get your tone with the original and then set the controls on the clone to wherever they need to be. Once they sound virtually the same, knob position is completely irrelevant.
it is very good these small inexpensive pedals their sound is very good .. but the dynamics and feel of the game is not at all the same when compared to a high-end pedal. the components are often 1st price components (capacitor, resistor, etc.) which completely removes the heat and dynamics that we get with high end pedals but unfortunately these are things that we do not hear on youtube.
"Pedals that sound like a pedal that sounds like a pedal." So they need to make a pedal call the Pedal-nator that Doofenshmirtz could make with his permission.
The quality on these videos has gotten so good. I like the overlay so you can see the actual settings and everything as Rob plays while not taking up too much of the screen.
Listening to RUclips audio via desktop speakers but I couldn't hear even half a smidgen difference. Just realised after years of watching Anderton videos, I've never heard Rob and Pete jam together. Please arrange it for Rob's next visit!
I literally closed my eyes at certain points to see if I could distinguish the difference. Even with high quality headphones I could not truly pinpoint the moment they switched. I went back to watch only to realize that the switch happened multiple times within the jam. You cannot argue the absolute bargain and quality that TC offers.
8:00, I cannot believe that "channel your questions" thing worked!!! I felt like they were about to move on, and Rob said "pin it for me". OMG it worked!
One of the few of these cheap import brands that have an attractive and consistent look across their range which is just so hard to find on these sorts of brands. Absolutely bonus they sound the business, don’t know why anyone who’s starting to get into pedals or is shopping for pedals on a budget would look anywhere else!
My take on the Muff situation is that the EHX to me sounds more like the Ram's Head which is lower gain than the Russian, which is what I think Tone City seems to be doing well: a bit more gain and more push in the lower mid and mid. However, that does just end up providing a bigger bottom (Stop it, Chappers!). I think the other magic of the Russian Muff is the way it pushes the amp. To my ears, it somehow translates into some clarity that I like. Maybe it is driving the low mid/mid in a way that leaves some transients up top. What do I knoww though. LOL. Now, all those older ones sounded different from one another - like most vintage era pedals. Also, beyond the huge sludge offered is that Gilmourish (Ah, Bjorn. . .) lead sound. . . but I am pretty sure Pete Cornish has probably tweaked those pedals that David G. owns. I do think the Tone City is very close to my reissue EFX Russian Muff. I think those 3 are better than a lot of the big box versions that are post 70's.
Call the Muff: Harmony Muffin Electronic Harmonic Muffin Green MF Green Muffia Green E.H. Măff These all sound amazing and basically identical. I never heard of Tone City before now, but I'm building a mini board with them now! A Peavey Classic 20 mini head and a Pedaltrain Nano/ Tone City essentials board; with a PRS SE Mira, you got a do_it_all budget-ish complete rig that's space friendly..
I have to say that even with good headphones the Tone City pedals basically sounded identical to the more expensive options except for the Matcha/Muff and I liked the sound of the Matcha better anyway :} I have the ODR 1 and love it, but the Nobelman did sound exactly the same to me.
I tried explaining the pedal names to my wife and a friend of ours (another woman of a certain age) and it was hilarious. Great informative review. Good to hear Mr. Chapman tastefully shredding that nice Tele.
I wish you had used an original Russian Green Muff for the comparison as Russian Muffs are IMHO super hard to replicate sound wise. Anyway, thanks for sharing such a fun video!
I deliberately looked away through much of the video and (once Lee had matched the levels) mostly couldn't tell when he'd switched pedals. Scary and exciting at the same time! I've wanted to try a Morning Glory and an ODR1 for a while, and this could be the perfect way to get "close enough" without breaking the bank. If either work the way I hope, I'll probably buy the real thing further down the line.
Just to point out, Lee's shirt is distracting 😉 Anyway... All of the pedals are impressive, near enough to identical. The matcha muff pedal has more mids than the original Big Muff though, and cut bass. This makes it more usable with single coils, Clearer ever so slightly. Fab video, if Rob can't tell as much between David and Goliath, then no one can.
Think the Green Muff is based on the "Green Russian Big Muff Pi" and not on the regular Big Muff Pi... so that could explain the slight different in sound.
Sound wise they are all spot on, but there is more to consider when looking at pedals - jack placement, power input placement, on/off light, even the feel of the switch. As someone who plays live often these factors are important. For example I have a small mod pedal that has chorus flanger phaser etc, the knob to change effects is too close to the switch so it’s easy to move by accident when turning it on an off. That being said these pedals sound great. Could probably tape down the knob in the middle although that’s also the indicator light
The only one there was some difference was on the first one, there was a tad more bass on jhs which makes sense because it's not a straight blues breaker clone, it has a jfet output boost -> less gain needed in earlier gain stages for output volume-> less opamp compression -> more bass.
The Nobles is aleady pretty cheap. But the Bluesbreaker one is a no brainer. I have 3 Tone City pedals and they're all great! Although they have a bit more gain than they can handle, so I never max them out
yes it sounds almost the same but it does not have the same dynamics or warmth at all as morning glory. electronic components (capacitor, resistor, etc.) are often inexpensive entry-level. so yes it will sound the same but to play it will not be pretty at all. you have to try to understand it
Russian Muffs have more bass that NYC Muffs, so it made sense that the Matcha sounds almost identical to the Pickle, but pretty different from the NYC. Honestly, I'd still get the Rattler because it (like all Jam pedals) looks awesome, even if it's 4-5x the price.
Wonderful, as always! I have a couple of Tone City pedals and they are great. Also, thanks for “greying-out” the pedal that was not engaged. That was a very helpful and cool effect!
Many, many years ago, I had an EHX Big Muff Pi and had occasion to look inside. Most of the space in that pedal was empty! Obviously, the new pedals inspired by that old beast don't require so much space for their works, but still do the job.
Other than the EQ or volume etc being at slightly different levels then couldn’t even tell when they switched between them most of the time. Tone City are amazing. If I started over again with pedalboard build I would be going for a lot of their gear - can’t wait to build my sons pedal board. He just needs to be old enough to play!
The Tone City stuff is pretty solid. Only difference I think is the ranges in the knobs, they don’t do that much. Rather than a range of say 1-100 it is more like 30-70. It’s in the more usable ranges but the sweep just isn’t as large
I think their stuff is perfect for an effect you don’t really use, but occasionally need. I don’t like chorus so the Angel Wing is perfect for me. Sounds good, there if I need it
They sound awesome 👍 How do you guys feel about doing an up to date pedal board video of what you are all playing through? 👍 Especially with Rob currently in your hood?!?!👍👍👍👍
I'd like to rock that guitar even though I've never played one with a cut away like that and I'm more of a strat guy, I think that be a pretty punk rocking guitar even though I know alot of people would be chicken picking on it. That tone rob had on the into was pretty punky bruiser....
Thank you. Im again amazed how my Fender Mustang GT 100 covers all sounds and more in splending quality over n over. Fantastic. I have used it in small/medium live situations and its feeling n sounding very good. Just a matter of tweeking it. Im even more amazed how the Captain went straight to find the russia original and made all pedals Sound so simular. Having lurned that, yes thank you I take the afordables. Very good as very interesting. Thank you o Well wishings.
I have to say that these Tone City pedals are really appealing for a lot of reasons. Of course the price is fabulous and that makes them super accessible even to someone who isn’t able to or doesn’t want to spend a ton on pedals. But I really like the relative simplicity of each one, the size, and the lighted knob. I mean come on they are just cool and inexpensive. What’s not to like? I especially like that Bluesman but I’ve watched a lot of the other videos you’ve done with many of their pedals and the Angel Wing and Sweet Cream are the other two that always catch my attention.
Dear Lee, dear Andertons, I came to notice that your copy of the "Mickey" (as it is labeled now) spells "Micky", which happens to be my name. So I am asking myself if you still have hold on this prototype and if you would sell it to me, please. ;o)
Lee, that thinline tele is spectaculair! These pedals rock! Especially at those prices. I particularly liked the Nobleman, so I need to look into that one. I own a Cuvave Fuzz (€23,-), which is comparable to the matcha green fuzz. I also own a Dalamo Fuzz (€18,-), which is a distortion up to 12 o'clock, and turns fuzzy beyond that. I own a Saphue Vintage OD (€24,-), which is like the Blues Braker. But had I not owned these pedals I'd get these, especially in a deal with 2+ a power supply. I'd get the Nobleman & the Bluesman, so I could stack them like a King of Tone, for £80...!!!
To me it is - if you want to support a brand of pedals, then great, and if you don't then this is okay too. I, for instance, had the Dane as a present, and man does it sound good, but hey! Get something you like and play the living hell out of it - that is what I am saying! :)))
I think pedals aught to be made more 'furniture' style 'table top' and for for the living room with proper switches. That is the true situation. We all do it.
I bought a TC Sweet Cream from you guys years ago, after seeing Danish Pete play it... You sent it to me in Australia, and it is still my favorite pedal. It's so dynamic and has all the goodness. Such a GREAT pedal! So I have just ordered the Blues Man from you too! Cheers
We're going to need a premium gear Vs high standard Vs budget level with a guitar, couple of pedals and amp comparison. Another law of diminishing returns video or is it about the special way it makes you feel over the tone you produce?
Mickey and Matcha Cream (when pitted against the WH) were the closest to my ears. I didn't think the Blues Man sounded identical to the JHS MG, but regardless, it might become my favourite pedal. Bought it two months ago and it's been an "always on" pedal for me since (I just like the way it breaks up, and the way its EQ'd, I can get anything from soulful 60s / 70s tones to black metal with it :-).
Regarding the muff pedals, on headphones it definitely sounds like the tone city isn't cutting the mid range like the big muff is, which I actually prefer, funnily enough
This mini pedal madness is awesome. I use these pedals more than my keeley BD2, keeley 808 and Royal Flush. Mooer Blues Crab (must have) is 99% Marshall Blues breaker pedal also, even cheaper! There is a RUclips video with a dude tripping out at how Blues Crab sounds the same side by side with original blues breaker. Tone City and Mooer are f'ing awesome.
You guys just saved me a bunch of money- they sound identical. The tone snobs are having a fit about it to- I love reading their comments, insisting they heard a difference and reminding us of the various extras on the more expensive pedals. True- the JHS has two gain stages, the ODR1 has a bass cut switch (if you buy the right model)- but I hardly think these tiny extras justify paying 150-200 bucks more for the pedals- sorry, Tone City still wins.
This is proof that if you spend more than £100 on a fuzz, overdrive and distortion pedal you're spending too much. They're the cheapest and simplest pedals to put together.
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I get bored by yet more pedal reviews, BUT when cheap pedals are sonically identical to expensive ones, then I'm suddenly very interested.....
naaah, never enough pedal videos :D
Tight
Nobels ain’t expensive 🤷🏻♂️
I have a nobles ODR-1 and am gobsmacked by how identical the Nobleman sounds
The tone city pedals all literally sounded exactly like what their “copying”. Further proving that pedals are electronic circuits and not “magic”.
@Cameron Clark People like to imagine there's some sort of magic involved with this stuff, which there isn't. The same is true of hifi.
There are all sorts of myths around about why this or that version of a particular component is better, and that mythology is often based around "and they don't make it any more" to make it not just magical, but rare and magical.
As you say, Physics and Electronics doesn't work like that.
There are some good reasons to spend more on certain old versions of analogue pedals, but tone is usually not that reason.
@Cameron Clark Josh from JHS has said that even though circuits can all the same, pedal to pedal can vary in terms of where the knobs are. He said with absolute confidence that 3 morning glories all made back to back set to 12 would all sound different. Again nothing to do with the fact you can copy circuits ( I.E Beringher) and re-create the sound, just found it to be a cool peice of info.
Honestly the only reason I don't want them because they have tiny pots, lol
Pedals are hype designed for instagram feeds. At leask expensive ones are.
That's right for analog curcuits. Not for digital algorithms though.
Impossible to deny. Based on the audio here on RUclips, even through strong quality cans, ToneCity appear to have created near perfect clones across the board...Yes - impressed. As Josh Scott says - you can't patent a circuit. Really compelling, thought-provoking vid here.
It was very satisfying to see the pedals switch between each other and the sound not change whatsoever
So true.
One of the best things I bought from Anderton's is the ODR1. Really good recommendation. I use the gain on 9>12, spectrum on 3 and stack with another low drive pedal or boost
It’s the best pedal I’ve owned to date. Second place is Soviet Big Muff.
All the Tone City pedals were pretty much spot on with the sound they were trying to emulate. I personally think it’s a great thing making great sound and tone accessible to everyone including beginners with no or little budget and the experienced guitarist alike.
Honestly, all of them, with the exception of the Muff/Moof were all incredibly close sounding, and in a couple cases, I actually preferred the Tone City ones because I thought they actually had a bit more clarity without sacrificing any of the tone, dynamics, gain structure or feel. I'm wearing pretty good headphones and I thought the Nobles/Nobleman, Morning Glory/Blues Man and the Rattler/Mickey were so close that I think all it required was a bit of very fine tuning to get them to sound virtually identical. The only noticeable difference I heard was between the Big Muff and the Moof (I know it's called the Matcha Cream, I'm just being silly here in honour of Rob lol). But when the Moof was compared with the Russian Pickle, it was very close, and again, I think all it required was some fine tweaking to get them to be on par with each other. As someone mentioned already, it seems the Moof is much more of a Russian Muff clone than an American Muff clone, and at that, it does a good job. Well done, Tone City! I honestly think this video just saved me some money, because I'll probably get a Nobleman instead of a Nobles ODR-1 now, as well as the Blues Man and maybe even a Mickey just for poos and chortles.
As a side note though: it doesn't matter where the knobs are positioned from one pedal to the next. No matter what pedal it is - whether comparing different brands or even identical pedal models - the differences in the taper of the pots alone makes a huge difference in where the tones will be similar, or the same when comparing pedals. Not to mention minor capacitor and other part tolerances can make slight differences as well. To me, what I do is take the original, find a tone (or two) I like and then match that with the clone pedal. More often than not you can get startlingly close, or even to where you can't hear a difference in tone or feel whatsoever. After that is achieved, wherever the tone controls on the clone pedal are set is completely irrelevant. I think people get WAY too hung up on that. They'll set all the controls at 12 o'clock on each pedal, hear that there are differences and then assume the clone "isn't the same" or "is no good", simply because the tolerances and taper of the pots are different from pedal to pedal. Get your tone with the original and then set the controls on the clone to wherever they need to be. Once they sound virtually the same, knob position is completely irrelevant.
The Muff was closer to a "Green Russian" style Muff. More mids and low end and just a little less shrill. It sounds really close to that style.
it is very good these small inexpensive pedals their sound is very good .. but the dynamics and feel of the game is not at all the same when compared to a high-end pedal. the components are often 1st price components (capacitor, resistor, etc.) which completely removes the heat and dynamics that we get with high end pedals but unfortunately these are things that we do not hear on youtube.
That's because they compared a GREEN matcha (green russian) to a normal Big Muff.
@@BlueBarrier782 F..k I didn't even saw this until I read your comment 👉😬 and judging by the video, I'm not the only one.
Good to have the Captain and Rob back together again
The Green Minge. Please don’t miss this chance.
"Pedals that sound like a pedal that sounds like a pedal."
So they need to make a pedal call the Pedal-nator that Doofenshmirtz could make with his permission.
Great choices for new additions to the lineup!
The quality on these videos has gotten so good. I like the overlay so you can see the actual settings and everything as Rob plays while not taking up too much of the screen.
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Yeah Rob used to take up way too much screen!
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Listening to RUclips audio via desktop speakers but I couldn't hear even half a smidgen difference. Just realised after years of watching Anderton videos, I've never heard Rob and Pete jam together. Please arrange it for Rob's next visit!
I literally closed my eyes at certain points to see if I could distinguish the difference. Even with high quality headphones I could not truly pinpoint the moment they switched. I went back to watch only to realize that the switch happened multiple times within the jam. You cannot argue the absolute bargain and quality that TC offers.
Pretty sure the Green Muff is based on the EHX Green Russian not the regular Big Muff. All the 4 Tone City's sound remarkable...
Got the Nobleman yesterday and my oh my what a great pedal! Couldn't be happier with it. Sounds amazing
I love these pedals. Love the look. They all sound spot on. I have a small board dedicated to these...I'm sure you'll have my order soon.
Well this is going to sell a 5hitload of these. Especially the Bluesman & Nobleman. Hey, if I buy both I have an £80 Browne Amps Protein 🤔 😂
I miss you all together like this, I think Pete is awesome but Chappers is the original to me. Thanks from Ohio
8:00, I cannot believe that "channel your questions" thing worked!!! I felt like they were about to move on, and Rob said "pin it for me". OMG it worked!
Man these are great pedals 🤤 would love you to do a sounds like special using only Tone City , maybe a few artists in one video 🤩💜🙏🤟
Why is it grey? Oh, it's green. Why is it grey? Oh, it's green Why is it... Oh, it's highlighting which pedal is switch on. SOber up Dave
Say what you will but Rob Chapman always cracks me up! Fine player and great sense of humor. Thanks Capt and Chappers!
+1
One of the few of these cheap import brands that have an attractive and consistent look across their range which is just so hard to find on these sorts of brands. Absolutely bonus they sound the business, don’t know why anyone who’s starting to get into pedals or is shopping for pedals on a budget would look anywhere else!
My take on the Muff situation is that the EHX to me sounds more like the Ram's Head which is lower gain than the Russian, which is what I think Tone City seems to be doing well: a bit more gain and more push in the lower mid and mid. However, that does just end up providing a bigger bottom (Stop it, Chappers!). I think the other magic of the Russian Muff is the way it pushes the amp. To my ears, it somehow translates into some clarity that I like. Maybe it is driving the low mid/mid in a way that leaves some transients up top. What do I knoww though. LOL. Now, all those older ones sounded different from one another - like most vintage era pedals. Also, beyond the huge sludge offered is that Gilmourish (Ah, Bjorn. . .) lead sound. . . but I am pretty sure Pete Cornish has probably tweaked those pedals that David G. owns. I do think the Tone City is very close to my reissue EFX Russian Muff. I think those 3 are better than a lot of the big box versions that are post 70's.
U already know Chappers couldn’t get his hands off the custom shop, I don’t blame him haha
Call the Muff:
Harmony Muffin
Electronic Harmonic Muffin
Green MF
Green Muffia
Green E.H. Măff
These all sound amazing and basically identical. I never heard of Tone City before now, but I'm building a mini board with them now!
A Peavey Classic 20 mini head and a Pedaltrain Nano/ Tone City essentials board; with a PRS SE Mira, you got a do_it_all budget-ish complete rig that's space friendly..
I have to say that even with good headphones the Tone City pedals basically sounded identical to the more expensive options except for the Matcha/Muff and I liked the sound of the Matcha better anyway :} I have the ODR 1 and love it, but the Nobelman did sound exactly the same to me.
Level and tone controls even them out completely.
I tried explaining the pedal names to my wife and a friend of ours (another woman of a certain age) and it was hilarious. Great informative review. Good to hear Mr. Chapman tastefully shredding that nice Tele.
I recently purchased a nobles odr1 and returned it because it's either got nothing or too much distortion there's no between.
Plus it's cheap plastic.
I wish you had used an original Russian Green Muff for the comparison as Russian Muffs are IMHO super hard to replicate sound wise. Anyway, thanks for sharing such a fun video!
They should've called the Matcha Cream Muff thing "Math" and just had a massive Pi symbol on it
GOT THE BLUES MAN AND THE MACHA CREAM ON THE PRE-ODER .. WAITIING FOR IT TO ARRIVE! :p
Can we all just take this time to extoll the greatness that is the Ratt.
I deliberately looked away through much of the video and (once Lee had matched the levels) mostly couldn't tell when he'd switched pedals. Scary and exciting at the same time! I've wanted to try a Morning Glory and an ODR1 for a while, and this could be the perfect way to get "close enough" without breaking the bank. If either work the way I hope, I'll probably buy the real thing further down the line.
Just to point out, Lee's shirt is distracting 😉 Anyway...
All of the pedals are impressive, near enough to identical. The matcha muff pedal has more mids than the original Big Muff though, and cut bass. This makes it more usable with single coils, Clearer ever so slightly. Fab video, if Rob can't tell as much between David and Goliath, then no one can.
For those just tuning in 2 years+ on, the matcha cream is a match to the green russian big muff which is why it sounds slightly different from the og.
I wish there was someone in Australia who sold these at competitive prices.
Think the Green Muff is based on the "Green Russian Big Muff Pi" and not on the regular Big Muff Pi... so that could explain the slight different in sound.
Sound wise they are all spot on, but there is more to consider when looking at pedals - jack placement, power input placement, on/off light, even the feel of the switch. As someone who plays live often these factors are important. For example I have a small mod pedal that has chorus flanger phaser etc, the knob to change effects is too close to the switch so it’s easy to move by accident when turning it on an off. That being said these pedals sound great. Could probably tape down the knob in the middle although that’s also the indicator light
Why the hell are you trying to compare a NYC Big Muff Pi to a Green Russian clone??? Why not just get the EHX Green Russian reissue?
Look forward to it
I would love to try a "Tone City vs The Thing Tone City Is Copying" challenge.
The only one there was some difference was on the first one, there was a tad more bass on jhs which makes sense because it's not a straight blues breaker clone, it has a jfet output boost -> less gain needed in earlier gain stages for output volume-> less opamp compression -> more bass.
These pedals sound great. We truly are in the golden age of guitars and pedals now. You can buy inexpensive stuff that sounds great.
The Nobles is aleady pretty cheap. But the Bluesbreaker one is a no brainer. I have 3 Tone City pedals and they're all great! Although they have a bit more gain than they can handle, so I never max them out
Lee :I'm not a muff owner
Chappers : Childish giggle...
I’m a simple man. I see Rob. I see the Anderton’s logo. I click.
That Blues Man pedal sounds literally identical to the Morning Glory lol. Just ordered one!
yes it sounds almost the same but it does not have the same dynamics or warmth at all as morning glory. electronic components (capacitor, resistor, etc.) are often inexpensive entry-level. so yes it will sound the same but to play it will not be pretty at all. you have to try to understand it
Russian Muffs have more bass that NYC Muffs, so it made sense that the Matcha sounds almost identical to the Pickle, but pretty different from the NYC.
Honestly, I'd still get the Rattler because it (like all Jam pedals) looks awesome, even if it's 4-5x the price.
I had no idea no why they were trying to compare the Green Russian clone with the NYC. Huge difference.
I'd still buy the Nobels ODR-1 because you can put a battery in it.
Wonderful, as always! I have a couple of Tone City pedals and they are great. Also, thanks for “greying-out” the pedal that was not engaged. That was a very helpful and cool effect!
I see another blindfold chalenge coming up.
I wonder what amp are they using? Sounds great with the Nobles!
I thought Rob left the channel for ever
The Turbo Rat is actually lower gain than the regular Rat. Sounds counterintuitive.
Many, many years ago, I had an EHX Big Muff Pi and had occasion to look inside. Most of the space in that pedal was empty! Obviously, the new pedals inspired by that old beast don't require so much space for their works, but still do the job.
Other than the EQ or volume etc being at slightly different levels then couldn’t even tell when they switched between them most of the time. Tone City are amazing. If I started over again with pedalboard build I would be going for a lot of their gear - can’t wait to build my sons pedal board. He just needs to be old enough to play!
The Tone City stuff is pretty solid. Only difference I think is the ranges in the knobs, they don’t do that much. Rather than a range of say 1-100 it is more like 30-70. It’s in the more usable ranges but the sweep just isn’t as large
I think their stuff is perfect for an effect you don’t really use, but occasionally need. I don’t like chorus so the Angel Wing is perfect for me. Sounds good, there if I need it
This would have been so much better with Danish Pete.
They sound awesome 👍 How do you guys feel about doing an up to date pedal board video of what you are all playing through? 👍 Especially with Rob currently in your hood?!?!👍👍👍👍
In the 70s I played through the electro harmony big muff pie like hendrix. Never has it been duplicated
I'd like to rock that guitar even though I've never played one with a cut away like that and I'm more of a strat guy, I think that be a pretty punk rocking guitar even though I know alot of people would be chicken picking on it. That tone rob had on the into was pretty punky bruiser....
Shoutout to the Captain for the tone-sync.
Thank you.
Im again amazed how my Fender Mustang GT 100 covers all sounds and more in splending quality over n over. Fantastic.
I have used it in small/medium live situations and its feeling n sounding very good. Just a matter of tweeking it.
Im even more amazed how the Captain went straight to find the russia original and made all pedals Sound so simular. Having lurned that, yes thank you I take the afordables.
Very good as very interesting. Thank you o
Well wishings.
Ordered the Nobleman. Merry Christmas to me. Can't wait to get my hands on it! Thanks for another great vid.
I have to say that these Tone City pedals are really appealing for a lot of reasons. Of course the price is fabulous and that makes them super accessible even to someone who isn’t able to or doesn’t want to spend a ton on pedals. But I really like the relative simplicity of each one, the size, and the lighted knob. I mean come on they are just cool and inexpensive. What’s not to like? I especially like that Bluesman but I’ve watched a lot of the other videos you’ve done with many of their pedals and the Angel Wing and Sweet Cream are the other two that always catch my attention.
I applaud thee Tone City 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
The Moof? What about The Beaver?! Instead of the Matcha Cream Fuzz ) Lol!
I bet if you used a green russian big muff it would sound just like the tone city version
I should watch before commenting
Using Sennheiser headphones, the pedals sound incredibly close, in almost every case, identical, to me.
I need a shot out on the green muff and the Micky
23:29 Holy guacamole, Chappers. That riff is magical 🧙♂️
its from one of his songs, i think with dorje but i cant remember the name and its killing me lmao such a good song
nvm its from "centered and one" - dorje (personal favorite from the lads)
I LOVE my Nobels ODR Mini, bit the Tone City sounds a lil brighter and clearer...
Glad to see new videos with Rob :) Really like the duo and I missed it this year!
Dear Lee, dear Andertons, I came to notice that your copy of the "Mickey" (as it is labeled now) spells "Micky", which happens to be my name. So I am asking myself if you still have hold on this prototype and if you would sell it to me, please. ;o)
Yes, you nailed it with the tweaking, they sounded near enough identical
Lee, that thinline tele is spectaculair!
These pedals rock! Especially at those prices.
I particularly liked the Nobleman, so I need to look into that one.
I own a Cuvave Fuzz (€23,-), which is comparable to the matcha green fuzz.
I also own a Dalamo Fuzz (€18,-), which is a distortion up to 12 o'clock, and turns fuzzy beyond that.
I own a Saphue Vintage OD (€24,-), which is like the Blues Braker.
But had I not owned these pedals I'd get these, especially in a deal with 2+ a power supply.
I'd get the Nobleman & the Bluesman, so I could stack them like a King of Tone, for £80...!!!
Btw I just had a look & Tone City does like 15 different gain pedals (overdrive, distortion & fuzz, could you do a comparisson between them?
Bedroom and entry equipment is getting so good. Think these reviews help push up the standards
To me it is - if you want to support a brand of pedals, then great, and if you don't then this is okay too. I, for instance, had the Dane as a present, and man does it sound good, but hey! Get something you like and play the living hell out of it - that is what I am saying! :)))
I think pedals aught to be made more 'furniture' style 'table top' and for for the living room with proper switches. That is the true situation. We all do it.
addictive stuff guys
There is a red led inside the rattler, probably asimetrical clipping with one led. So the rattler would be in between the normal rat and the turbo.
I didn't really "watch" this video. I just kinda listened, and i didn't notice when Lee was switching between pedals 95% of the time.
I bought a TC Sweet Cream from you guys years ago, after seeing Danish Pete play it... You sent it to me in Australia, and it is still my favorite pedal. It's so dynamic and has all the goodness. Such a GREAT pedal! So I have just ordered the Blues Man from you too! Cheers
I regret trading my Sweet Cream. Was too good
Holy shit Adam!
Should have just added two dots with a sharpie and called it a müff.
To my ears there was a very clear 1.2% difference lol. My word they sounded good.
We're going to need a premium gear Vs high standard Vs budget level with a guitar, couple of pedals and amp comparison. Another law of diminishing returns video or is it about the special way it makes you feel over the tone you produce?
Mickey and Matcha Cream (when pitted against the WH) were the closest to my ears. I didn't think the Blues Man sounded identical to the JHS MG, but regardless, it might become my favourite pedal. Bought it two months ago and it's been an "always on" pedal for me since (I just like the way it breaks up, and the way its EQ'd, I can get anything from soulful 60s / 70s tones to black metal with it :-).
I've been using Tone City pedals for few years and it sounds amazing. Hope Santa would bring a Matcha under the tree this year !
Loving the vids! They really were tonally identical but the Tone City do sound just a SMIDGEN cheaper, value for money is top tier though
Regarding the muff pedals, on headphones it definitely sounds like the tone city isn't cutting the mid range like the big muff is, which I actually prefer, funnily enough
That's some cheeky additions to the collection. They have nailed it.
This mini pedal madness is awesome. I use these pedals more than my keeley BD2, keeley 808 and Royal Flush. Mooer Blues Crab (must have) is 99% Marshall Blues breaker pedal also, even cheaper! There is a RUclips video with a dude tripping out at how Blues Crab sounds the same side by side with original blues breaker. Tone City and Mooer are f'ing awesome.
You guys just saved me a bunch of money- they sound identical. The tone snobs are having a fit about it to- I love reading their comments, insisting they heard a difference and reminding us of the various extras on the more expensive pedals. True- the JHS has two gain stages, the ODR1 has a bass cut switch (if you buy the right model)- but I hardly think these tiny extras justify paying 150-200 bucks more for the pedals- sorry, Tone City still wins.
And here is why Chapper's is the best "presenter" Anderton's has. He makes you want to run out and grab the product, hopeful to attain the same tone.
This is proof that if you spend more than £100 on a fuzz, overdrive and distortion pedal you're spending too much. They're the cheapest and simplest pedals to put together.
Rumor has it the Morning Glory has a Tone City in Bluesman inside of it! Nice going Josh!!!😂😂
Minutes 13:45...When a LITTLE made you LAUGH and HAPPY....Just BUY that Little Pedal :)