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CR90 Rebel Corvette vs Republic Consular Cruiser | Star Wars: Who Would Win
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2017
- Today's video sees the Rebel Blockade runner (the CR90 Corvette) go up against the Republic's Consular Cruiser. Interestingly, versions of both of these ships introduce the Prequel and Original trilogies.
Some background information:
The CR90 Corvette, also known as the Rebel Blockade Runner, is the very first ship seen in Star Wars: A New Hope. That ship, the Tantive IV, is also seen in Rogue One.
10 year old in a N-1 Starfighter vs Lucrehulk
lmao
*9 year old
try spinning its a good trick
Now THIS is Pod Racing!
that kid would have to make a one in a million chance shot
When he talks about “how fast the consular was destroyed in episode 1” and then shows a clone wars clip of the same ship taking dozens of separatist blasts and coming out fine with better meanuverability
The Consular was a weak ship made during peace time. The Charger C70 Cruiser
is a military retrofit.
Yes, but if you would take the concular, you would compare a diplomatic(mostly unarmed) ship with a Warship. That would be a short battle. He should just have named the Video: Charger C70 Cruiser Vs Rebel Cr90 Corvette
It probably also hab it shields off in the hangar
It did...you hear the pilot ordering "shields up!" Half a second before they were destroyed.
Plot armor can be overpowered or... Extremely weak.
Remember that in star wars the consular ship was without shields
Co pilot- Captain !
Captain- SHIELDS UP
( The ship blows by a piercing shot )
you say the cruiser can be destroyed easily but right after you show a clip of the ship taking several hits from a separatist ship but never talk about it.
He said it was heavily modified in clone wars
So much so that it’s technically considered a different ship called the charger
@The high ground he does mention at the end that he might be downplaying its durability
In the clone wars, the consular resisted hundreds of shots of two munificant frigates and was able to retreat
2 words... Plot armour
Hundreds? Hundreds Munificent shots would take out a Venator. So, I call bull on that. Maybe a handful of shots, but even that's a bit of stretch.
@@bluethunderbolt9631 in this video he showed that it took multiple shots without shields up
In the Clone Wars it slammed into a planet at almost full speed and stayed intact. Those were some tough as hell ships
Yeah, it was plated in a special type of armor, it's called plot armor...
X-Wing vs ARC-170
Der Kaylon that.. Now that's a good idea!
dude yes this video must happen
Captain jag vs wedge Antilles !?!?
joshua sedano no, no, no
the tie could only win in one thing
cheapnes
joshua sedano tie fighter along will lose to anything
Darth Vader's TIE VS Anakin Skywalker's Jedi fighter
Joshua Kisser which Jedi starfighter cus Anakin had three
TIE Advanced X1 Vs what model?.
Delta-7 Aethersprite Class Light Interceptor (first fighter) or the Eta-2 Actis Class Light Interceptor (second fighter)?.
I'm gonna be honest I expected the verdict to be the opposite.
Also, the CR90 in ROTS does store Grievous' ship in its hold.
Same
It was actually a Cr 70 corvette in ROTS
@@galactic-guy My bad lol Makes sense it’d be an older model though.
@@TheNuisanceBird yeah always assumed it was just for a shuttle or two. It wouldn't have had any kind of starfighter bays or maintenance facilities
I believe thats the tantive III even, the literal precursor to the tantive IV
Are we sure about the turbo laser loadouts?
I was always under the impression that these ships had more laser cannons than turbo lasers for fending off fighters and small pirate ships.
If you're talking the CR90 there were 4 major refit designs. One replaced 4 of the broadside turbolasers with quad lasers. That one was an antifighter sort of heavy gunship. Another version had 2 hangars.
The thing about the C70 was it's stern turret, as far as I'm aware, that was rare on many star ships in Star Wars, though the CR90 could fire behind it, that blast was coming from the main turret, as the C70 had one with stern defense in mind, allowing for the other weapons to focus more on their own section of the vessel during battle.
In the Clone Wars, we see the Charger C70 (Consular's name after the retrofit for those wondering) fly around quickly and dodging turbo laser fire and fly around inside enemy fleet formations (example, first episode, and the battle of Salucamai) I don't ever think we saw the CR90 do anything like that. But that might just be because of B1's lack of proper aimbot.
The Ebonhawk vs Millenium falcon
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Resurgence Class Battlecruiser vs Praetor Mark 2 Battlecrusier? Also keep up the good work, I'm really enjoying these videos
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No it's Resurgent-class Battlecruiser, not Resurgence. Look it up on google.
resurgent would wipe the floor with the praetor
praetor has 60 turbolasers
resurgent has atleast 1000 turbo lasers
@@doubledekercouch Resurgents were terrible writing, no battlecruiser size ship can fit one thousand turbolaser batteries on it and not just drop dead from power failure
What do you call a dead Jar Jar Binks?
wonderful :)
GrizzlyMC Darth Jar Jar will never die!
A much better version of the Prequels.
"IF THIS IS A COUNCILOR SHIP, WHERE IS THE AMBASSADOR!?!"
venator vs providence
M.R. Palpatine probably the cis
No it would be the venator because of how good it carries starfighters over the Providence and also how balanced they are. Not to mention the provedence only has a little more guns than the venator so I see the republic winning
Obviously the venator, see what happen to the invisible hand
Randy Cheow Yeh invisible hand was already weakened and has much more powerful weapons and still carries a lot of fighters as It can even hold its own for awhile against a SD
Randy Cheow the invisible hand was already heavily damaged and actually a single venator is no match for a un damaged providence.
One thing you forgot about the Consular-class in The Phantom Menace, when the turret fires on and destroys the ship, its shields were still down, and it never got a chance to bring them up. Whereas the Tantive IV's shields were up, and like you said, The Devastator wasn't trying to destroy it, but take down its shields and disable it for capture.
Also, from what we've seen, the Consular is also far more maneuverable than the CR-90.
Regardless, I absolutely agree with your assessment of this matchup. Can't wait for more!
harrower class dreadnought vs valiant class star destroyer
renzo chiri cool!
This is my favorite match-up so far. Out of all the match-ups this one relies most heavily on the skill of the crew and captains, which of course you nullified. But despite the probable advantage going to the Consular-class it really is a close fight and positioning and speed would be key. That's not to say those aren't important in the other fights but this one is probably the closest you done thus far and therefore I'd love to actually see a fight from these ships.
I dont understand why the shield point goes to the cr 90. Because you say that the shield of the cr 90 took several hits but was crippeld after the first Hullhit. But the consulars shields were offline when the shot hits it so the hull is mabye a little weaker but you have no proof for the shielding.
Well, in the Clone Wars pilot episode Ambush, a Consular-class took several heavy hits from Munificent frigates and managed to escape into hyperspace. Both ships have very powerful shielding.
I still would prefer the cr90 corvette over that cruiser but ok.
great video, keep it up i personally don't know which ship i like the most because i grew up watching the Clone Wars Series and the Consular-class has a special place in my heart
Resurgent- class Battlecruiser Vs Lucrehulk- Class Control Ship (CIS Navy Version)
I would have given durability to the Republic cruiser as in the clone wars series we see the type being compared barraged by separatist frigates that we’re trying to destroy it and it even took a beating when its shields were down; you even show that scene. In the Phantom Menace, it’s shields were down, (you mention this), but it was also hit directly in the cockpit. That is enough to take down many ships in one shot whereas the Tantive takes just one shot to the main hull and it is taken down even though the star destroyer was not trying to destroy it. Overall, I don’t think the rebel cruiser really stood a chance; they both are, after all, blockade runners and I think their speeds were very similar.
There is a way to estimate acceleration when comparing ships, not perfect but a baseline. Take the volume of the ship (length x width x height[adjustable to actual shape if you prefer] ) and divide it by the area of its engines exhaust. Lowest number equals fastest acceleration. How long they could accelerate is a separate issue. I like a little science in my science fiction.
CIS ships vs rebel ships, cis muniffiscent star frigate vs nebulon B rebel frigate
Yes, that is true, other vs can be, an imperial 1 star destroyer vs the providence destroyer/carrier, the big version of that ship 2000 meters i think
EckhartsLadder I love these videos
The Munificent would win.
maybe instead of being completely subjective, you could actually investigate something like firing arcs
I'm kinda on the fence on this one. I see and agree with the points you made about both ships. The one thing I keep coming back to in my mind is that the CR90 was designed and built to be a gunship, where as the Consular cruiser was designed as a transport and modified into a gunship. This would make a big difference in the superstructures of each ship. The CR90s should be way stronger over the Consular cruiser. How much difference would this make? Well not much really until you get into "dogfighting" type combat like we are talking about. The main difference should be in sustained maneuvering. That would go in the CR90's favor as it would have less frame stress. The CR90 should also be able to have better armor bc of its stronger frame. However since the republic did do a great job converting the cruiser, they might have thought to reinforce the framework. I would think they did to support the gun mounts. They certainly would have had the resources. SO yeah I'm on the fence.
The C70 isn't a retrofit like the MC80. It'd be more like an MC90 since it looks basically the same but is actually larger and purpose built for war. They didn't just stick turbo lasers on a Consular
Great analysis.I agree that the Consular would win. Honestly a very underrated ship.
He should have used the time that it took many shots from some CIS ships while they were trying to kill it
The CR90 can hold 1 fighter, it has a small underside internal bay big enough for a small craft such as a Jedi Starfighter or Jedi Interceptor. Remember that Obi Wan's rendezvous with Senator Bail Organa after Order 66 and landed into the Tantive IV's bay flying General Grievous's starfighter in Ep. III.
My favorite ship in all of Star Wars is the republic frigate (I.e the consular one featured here just refitted for combat) I loved this video! I've Actually thought of this battle multiple times and honestly I completely agree. It would be extremely interesting to see this!
Munificent Vs Nebulon B
What about the Nebulon-B vs the Arquitens? Or the Munificent vs the Arquitens if it's too strong for the Nebulon-B.
Really??? The munificien is a heavy destroyer, and a lot heavier armed and armoured than the Nebulon B whilste having weaker shields. It would kill it immediately
The ghost vs millinium falcon
ARC-170 Fighter vs the x wing or B wing.
You're ignoring that while the Consular-class has more guns, it can't bring them all to bear the same way that a CR90 can. In most situations, a CR90, because of its super-positioned main guns, could put out more firepower.
Republic gunship vs droid gunship
the droid gunship would win because of its misses and the lack of speed on the Republic gunship
Misses? Missiles? ...or Mrs? ...I know my Mrs can persuade me to win, even when physics disagrees strongly, so I'll assume you mean the gunships droid wife would help him win. :) Awww
y e s
You mean the HMP Gunship and LAAT gunship?
Plus the droid gunship had shields unlike the LAAT
I am a huge fan of the C70. I imagine she could also mount A-wings in place of two lifeboats on the underside hull if necessary.
Honestly, I think the matchup maybe more in favor for the CR90, for while the Consular Cruiser has heavier weapons, they are slower to fire while the CR90 have a good combination of the two, making it prefect for not only hit and run, but a more multi role against heavier and lighter ships while the Consular is design to face more heavier ships in support of warships as we don't see the ship even reference for fighter support, unlike the CR90.
A standard CR90 is 150 meters. The Tantive IV was refitted and only 125 meters.
Mc 75
Vs
Venator star destroyer
That I would like to see, btw the mc 75 does have a hanger, just no definite fighter compliment.
Millennium Falcon vs The Ghost
Lucrehulk vs. Liberator
About the Corvette carrying starfighters, in the X-Wing novels, Warlord Zsinj fielded CR90 that carried 4 TIE Fighter, with their hangar being below the bridge at the front.
What is interesting is they're both Correllian made ships, which makes them very easy to modify and be mass produced in record numbers. I think in terms of speed, they tie. Defensive shields favor the Rebel Blockade Runner given it's an updated ship compared to the Republic Consular Cruiser. A modified RCC, with an updated targeting software and top of the line weaponry by strictly using turbolasers, would be roughly equal to the Rebel Runner. The stock RCC seen on the Phantom Menace would stand no chance against the more updated Rebel Blockade Runner, so a modified RCC stands a better chance of fighting back.
The way I see it, it'd be up to the tactics of the skipper and if one of the ships include a proton torpedo launcher or missiles as part of the weapons upgrade package.
Oh and for the next match up?
Capital ships: Executor Class Star Dreadnought vs Pelleaon Class Star Destroyer.
Fightercraft: TIE Defender vs B-Wing
I remember a clip I saw online of the Clone Wars TV show that took place during what looked like a sizeable fleet battle and in it we see a Consular along side one of the CIS Munficient frigates ripping it apart
The CR90 has a small hangar on the bottom as seen in episode 3. At least one A-Wing could fit in there.
Both of these starships were manufactured by Correlian Engineering Corporation (CEC).
I cannot believe I am only just stumbling upon this one, I LOVED the Consular class cruiser! When Episode I came out it was one of my favorite ships from the movie, and I was devastated that it got blasted into slag so early. I love it almost as much as the Blockade Runner and I am thrilled to learn that there indeed was an armed variant of the ship. It's a great looking starship, and it's severely underrated. I would definitely fly one of these with the kind of pride with which Han flies the Falcon.
To be fair the Consular-class, from the Clone Wars-era refit, also received military-grade armor along with the weapons. I think both would have had very similar amounts of durability, effectively putting that comparison to a draw.
The outrider vs Millennium Falcon both ships are insanely fast.
That Pod on the consular is really cool. It is a diplomatic conference room of sorts and can detach too keep the HVTs safe.
interesting decision, I always got the impression that the Republic Cruiser was quite a bit smaller than the CR90
and thought it would win :b
I know I’m late to the comment section but I’m surprised the rebels didn’t use more of the c70 charger. It was half the cost of the cr90 and only required an eighth of the crew. On top of that it had good shielding, good sublight speed, a decent hyperdrive, 5 double turbo lasers and the option for either a heavy ion cannon or a medium point defense laser cannon. Honestly if I had a ship in Star Wars it would be the c70 and my modifications would be 2 extra double turbo lasers placed on the top beside the two existing ones and I have the rear turbo laser swapped for a medium point defense laser cannon along with the one on the front and I would probably upgrade the hyperdrive to a class 1.0 or better and instead of organic troops I would have a couple dozen bz commando droids and then best feature in my opinion I can haul 4,000 metric tons of cargo that 1,000 more than the cr90. My c70 would have better shielding and possibly faster sublight speed if possible. To complete it I would give it a deep black paint job and I would name it the RIM RUNNER
X-83 Twintail vs Predator class fighter or a TIE Defender. Also these are one of my favorite type of videos you make. :)
EckhartsLadder Thanks!!
I have to disagree with firepower, the CR90 had 2 anti capital guns close to its bridge, if there were a group of CR90 they could pack quite a punch even against ISDs. The “cruiser” on the other hand had only 1 gun that was design to fight off capital ships and its effectiveness is debated.
Also the cruiser itself is very vulnerable it’s cockpit is leaking out wich in turn makes it much weaker.
Good mash-up. I always loved the Consular-Class C90 Retrofit Corvette. Although, the CR90 is such a classic. It's a hard battle, both are awesome.
I would disagree. The Corvette is made to be absolutely ridiculously fast. It could very likely jump in and out and hit and run on the Consular. If it jumps in and smashes the Consular's engines then the fight is pretty much over. Also as heavily armed as the Consular is its firepower cannot be expected to come anywhere near an Imperial II Star Destroyer's barrage and the CR90 held up to that for an impressive amount of time. If they were aiming to just disable it then they should have been shooting at its engines which are the weakest part via shields making that feat even more impressive. These things were regularly used to jump into a blockade of Star Destroyers survive long enough to get their job done and calculate their hyper drive jump and then get the heck out of there.
I’m so excited these two are the two I love the most
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
Besides #1, these Matchups are based on Fighter & Troop carrying Capacity as well as their 'Notes' from the PC game: "Star Wars: Rebellion".
#1: "Star Wars" versus "Star Trek", ANY Two ships will do.
#2: Bulwark Battlecruiser (10, 4, "Ideal for large scale operations") versus Super Star Destroyer (12, 9)
#3: Liberator Cruiser (6, 3, "One of the most advanced warships") versus Imperial II Star Destroyer (6, 3)
#4: Alliance Escort Carrier (6, 0) versus Imperial Escort Carrier (6, 0)
And finally # 5: CC-7700 (0, 0, "Carries gravity well generators, which prevent opposing ships from withdrawing from a battle") versus Interdictor Cruiser (0, 0)
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Preferably 2-5 because he is VERY Likely not going to do #1 . . .
funny enough the Republic frigate version was both better armored as well as MUCH faster than the rebel blockade runner, the rebel ship typically topped out at 800km/h while the republic frigate topped out at around 1200km/h even with a reinforced hull and thick armor plating
Sorry mate, I think you're sources need to be checked. The CR-90 is an improvement on the consular in almost every way. The hull is made of cast Ferro Magnesium (just as strong but lighter than dura-steel), the CR-90 can mount and power a MUCH larger weapons array, and with 11 ion drive engines it's is far faster in sunlight speeds than the consular. That said, I think the consular appears more menuverable. There is a reason that a peacetime Galaxy produced the consular class. where as the CR-90 became THE most popular ship of smugglers, pirates and of course Rebels.
Also, the CR-90 was originally going to be Lucas' Millennium Falcon. Hence all the engines and care of design.
I'm not entirely sure that either class were really that far apart. As the Tantive IV is also the ship that Bail Organa rescues Yoda and Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith, so while that doesn't say exactly when the Republic/Empire discontinued use and/or scrapped their Consular Class ships and when the first CR90s were built and put into service, we can still assume that they were around at the same time.
Though, in the case of the CR90, in fleet action, the Rebels likely used it more to harry starfighters and support their larger ships. Otherwise, they'd be used to try and outrun Imperial ships as transports for important personnel in a way that wouldn't draw attention.
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Victory class Star Destroyer Vs Dreadnought class Heavy Cruiser. It is said that the Victory was the only ship at the time that could fight the Dreadnought to a draw.
Hard to decide. Both ships I like hmm. I made a consular class ship,( the 3 engine one) on Minecraft. Full size. However the rebel blockade runner could hold a flight of 4 fighters. If you watch episode 3, Obi wan flies his star fighter to the tantive 4, and lands in the hanger. If you believe the books, wedge manages to steal an Imperial version of the blockade runner and outfits it with 12 tie fighters.
DAVID JONES 4 were put in escape pod positions
CR-90 blockade runner because it has more guns, it can hold A-wings inside in the hull as you see in star wars Rebels in season 2 episode 1.
I tell all of you right now no a wing or X-Wing has any chance against the most advanced Starfighter the Rebellion had which is the B wing
Hammerhead Corvette vs Diamond Class Cruiser.
Hammerhead Cruiser vs Munificant Class Star Frigate.
Echo of the 501st
I'd had to say the Munificent would be better against the Hammerhead because of its heavy armor plating on the front and back as well as its turbolasers.
Man he's grown so much and come so far
I love this matchups, but there are also Corellian corvettes like the assassin class, in some games called modified corvette that packed a wallop ;)
You forgot about the scene in S1E1 of TCW where Yoda's Consular gets pounded by a pair of Munificents for a while, and survives. While I doubt that rivals Tantive IV's shielding, and it makes little difference in the outcome, but it seems like an odd thing to forget about when you included that exact scene in its entirety.
The turbolasers on the CR90 look like they are very powerful and they can fire quite fast, so you should have factored that in.
C70 is shown firing very rapidly in the clone wars honestly they are pretty equal but the cr90 is more modern and has more space while the c70 is faster with more fire power
@@persuisixh4804 The Tantive IV seems to have put up a good fight against the ISD Devastator; this is what I am basing my opinion on.
@@infinitecanadian they were capturing it and trying to disable it the ISD took no damage
@@persuisixh4804 It still put up a good fight.
To be fair, they did shoot the cockpit directly.
I mean ye look at what happened to the executor xD
Clone Wars was a kids show though, they have all the main-characters do crazy stuff..
I think i am gonna make a combined lego version of these 2 ships
huh gud idea
Another great video! Love this series, keep it up!
Maybe the FarStar would have been more than a matchup for the old republic ship... with a hangar with several starfighters, and reinforced hull and shields but still packing all the same weapons.
i subscribed because of your profile picture and your content .
one more advantage of the consular class is the size of the easily ejected escape pod.
Small ships he says. These things are massive. They are bigger than aircraft carriers...ooohhh we are comparing them to other Star Wars ships. Yeah they’re tiny
Any ship with redundant shielding must have an opponent with redundant shielding in order to even the odds.
In star wars rebels a original cr90 corvette can link any type of fighter to its bays;if it brought bombers the cr90 corvette would probably win and the cr90 corvette is an anti-fighter ship mainly.
Thrawn's Chimera v. Ackbar' Home One
It's pretty impressive how constantly good your vids are! Also impressive how often you publish vids.
EckhartsLadder excited and ready to watch!
I still want to see how Kandosi Mandalorian Dreadnought would handle a Rendilli Dreadnought. AND you would force to find Rendilli Dreadnought before upgrade made just before, in time and after Clone War, or you can make two duels- before and after upgrades.
Battle Suggestion!
Providence-class dreadnought (larger 2054m long variant) VS Lucrehulk-class battleship (clone wars era)
You seem to forget that the CR90 has an internal docking bay they can hold at least one fighter type craft.
I would wager that the Corvette is faster, more agile and has better hyper space drive. While the Cruiser is more durable and packs a bigger punch.
The Corvettes role is to run blockades and destroyer enemy fighters while the Cruiser is more of a support ship the fleet with its fire power against other capital ships.
i dont know why but it posted, bottom line is the blockade runner had more weapon emplacments ,being 6 H9 turbo lazers ,8 turbolasers, 6 laser cannons and 4 ion cannons with a standard shield generators. Where as Quigons ship not olny was completely destroyed by 1 shot by a gun mounted in the hanger, wich i think would be weaker than the ones that are mounted on the outside and its firepower is weaker as follows double turbo cannons ,lasers and 2 missle launchers , it doesn't say how many missles and leias ship is faster both in and out of hyper drive with a more sophisticated navigation computer
I prefer the consulor class. The cr-90 has a nickname of blockade runner this would suggest Heavy shielding, armor, and a high-speed but light armaments.
I'm not sure where you got your size information form, but for decades, and even from other RUclipsrs, the CR90 has always been 150 meters in length. Every description of the Consular Cruiser I have seen, listed them as only 115 meters in length. As they say size does matter. The Consular just doesn't have the space to power 5 capital sized turbolasers. By misrepresenting their respective sizes, you totally skew the outcome. While I think the Consular is more nimble, and the CR90 does have a big blind spot behind it, I would have to give the fight to the CR90 in a majority of cases. The fights would be close, but the CR90 usually wins. I do enjoy your content (even if I disagree this time). Keep it up.
When the Consular got it’s retrofit,the size was greatly increased according to MetaNerdz Lore
Hay the SLT on the large escape pods IS a rebel modification!
The Consular-class cruiser was an ancestor to the CR90.
Lucrehulk Battleship vs MC80 Home One.
You always pick those huge ships to fight against each other... but what if you take two of the most powerful *starfighters* two let them compete?
And this would be a though one!
The *TIE-Defender* vs the *T-70 X-Wing* !
Honestly I have no idea which one would win. Both are excellent fighters.
So made my own version of the CR-90 that is 3 times bigger than the regular one and has a docking bay for up to 12 A-Wings or 6 Heavily modified snow speeders( which I also made) has 10 side guns, 2 main guns, 4 rocket guns and 2 turbo blaster canons, and 12 escape pods, plus the satellite dish. And different engines haven't figured out what they are called yet. I want to see this versus a super star destroyer.
Ask me anything about this ship or tell me your opinions
It would get merked by the Super Star Destroyer. 2 turbo lasers? Against a ship that may have hundreds. Also, the Super Star Destroyer Carries more fighters.
Harrower I or II vs ISD I or II
I hope
Speeda 325 whats a harrower
Harrower class dreadnought (Sith Empire warship).
Fist Recreation whats the difference between 1 and 2
I suppose it's a upgraded version from a Imperial Class Star Destroyer 1 too a Imperial Class Star Destroyer II.
Like Mark I
Mark II
and so on( the 2nd one better than the first one) you know.
Forward hold of cr90 can fit 6 x-wings at most depending on setup