I love how you get directly to the point. I hate it when other RUclipsrs stall and avoid the main subject. I guess you already know your fans admire your work and we watch you in hopes of becoming better photographers.
Oh man totally agree, I find I have to skip the first minute or two of most videos because they give their lengthy "context" and personal path explanation. Its like they all follow this formula and it gets really old and time-wasting fast. Yes, so thank you for just getting to the point. Most of us watching you already know who you are and for many who consume a lot of videos just want the meat and potatoes...
I switched from Nikon to Canon this year and one of the reasons why was the 28-70! It's a great lens and it has not left my R5 since I got it. I've always been a prime girl but this lens just works so well and is so sharp. It's magic!
Sigma was trying to make something like this in a while. They make 24-35 and 28-45 1.8. Tamron seems to be on it too. They already made a 35-150 that's just as big and heavy, haha. I hope a 28-70 is underway.
I just had the proudest day of my life at my daughter’s wedding. I was astounded by the 12+ hour stint put in by their photographer. 2 camera bodies, hip holster, heavy lenses, and she still somehow still managed to melt into the event and somehow become a part of it. Sheer graft. Respect to your profession.
The 28-70 is truly godlike. I use it for theatre photography, at f/2 in a dark theatre the photos come out so clean it's like I shot them in daylight. Absolutely game changing to get prime lens speed on a versatile zoom!
Agree. It's a beast - hoofed mine through to London, Venice, Florence, Rome, Amalfi, Costa Rica, Japan...images are worth every penny, even if my right arm is now slightly larger than my left.
After spending way too much on RF gear last year, this superb review has got me wanting a new lens. Love the channel and the great points you make in these reviews.
Couldn't agree more about the 28-70 F2. First time I used it was doing senior pictures for my niece when the lens initially became available. Used it alongside an 85mm 1.2 (EF mount adapted). The 28-70 blew me away. I would have left the 85 1.2 at home had I known the 28-70 would perform so well.
Best video I’ve seen of yours yet, and I’ve watched sooo many! Your style, giving the punch line up front, making fun of trolls, shooting yourself on the 85 1.2, and just amazing skill behind the camera over so many videos just got you another subscriber. Love your work! ❤
I've owned my 28-70 since 2019 and it still is my main lens (81% of all my frames shot since then) for all the reasons you pointed out. It is an absolute tank as well as it being immaculate in image quality and character. With IBIS on all pro bodies going forward, I just don't see this changing for a decade, unless there's a mark 2 with a breakthrough on optical quality (similar to the EF 35 1.4L Mark 1 vs Mark 2), or if the wide end dropped down to 24mm or wider. A 24-105 2.0L would be my ultimate lens to rule them all, and would pair perfectly with my 100-300L that I'm patiently waiting to ship...
I don't even care about the weight of this lens, the image quality is mind blowing. I don't regret a single dollar spent on this glass and paired up to my R6, results are simply beyond rewarding.
Using that lens since may 2022 and can certainly confirm that this is a kickass lens for event photography. 95% of the time I'm using this lens. Wide open it has wicked tack sharp quality!
What's your thought on 50mm 1.2? I just feel like 50mm is bit boring focal length to me. I feel like it doesn't have characteristic(not too wide, not too tight). It's perfect focal length but that's what it make it bit boring.
Vanessa: I just recently found your channel and although I'm a Nikon user I truly enjoy your presentations. I really like the way you explain things in an interesting and entertaining way while getting the important information across. Keep up the great work.
I just shot an event with a 70-200 after usually using my 24-70 mostly. It was heavy and my arm is killing me, but I really loved the images I got out of it. My hand and shoulder, though! What was I thinking? I need to get the Z version, though. Love this video!
Wish I had one in my bag! It would be great if the settings, like focal length, aperture, etc… were indicated on the shots you showed. At this price, I’d almost force myself to shoot wide-open for everything 😂
Haha look at the rest of the educational videos if you want all of the settings. Unfortunately, it takes an extraordinary amount of time to put all the settings in every photo so I try not to kill my editor with that on gear reviews
It's great to have those RF lenses but for the everyday person, older EF L lenses and ART lenses are spectacular when adapted onto the RF mount. They're even better than they were on the EF bodies. There are no flies on them and, frankly, are better than what 99.9% of people will even need or be able to realize with them.
I've done weddings with the 28-70 and loved it. My one caveat is that I'm scared all the time I'll break it and also when it was turned on me I realised it's enormous and quite intimidating to look down.
I’m with you 100%. It is my favorite lens for events. It’s hard to describe the look of the photos. They are phenomenal. Paired with the R5 the combo is a workhorse with special picture quality.
Well just as I was sold on getting this lens, Canon releases the 24-105 F2.8!! Now I have to wait to see the reviews on this one… hopefully you have that video coming soon Vanessa!
Flex 'em if ya got 'em!! Is missing out on 24mm made up for by getting to F2? I think it would be, especially for weddings where lighting is going to often be awful. I love my 24-70 F2.8, but I would definitely love for it to be F2!!
From a business perspective, buying the 28-70mm makes more sense than the 3 primes shown in your video. Also, I agree with your comment about the coverage that zooms afford. I love shooting with primes but zooms are more versatile. Clients don't care which lens you shoot with as long as you get the shot. Finally, tell Ms. Killjoy to take some time away from the computer she reminds me of a keyboard warrior.
The 28-70mm f/2 is a fine lens. I have the 28-70mm f/2.8 I also have the following prime lenses: 24mm f/2 28mm f/2 35mm f/1.4 50mm f/1.4 85mm f/1.4 Since I prefer primes, I use my 28-70mm as a backup to my primes.
You hear that trolls??!! You just got burned!! Finally bought my 28-70. Now I have 2 R6, 28-70, 24-70, 70-200 all RF and a 85 sigma. Very happy with that and my Low pro 550 AW II Bag. Thanx Venessa for all the help over the last 3 years. Hope I get to work with your team one day
@@VanessaJoy your telling me. It can carry eeeeverything. I even had a light stand, a glow para snap 36”, and tripod attached to it. Sure it weighted 42lbs but I was very happy to have that with me. I can’t thank you enough for the influence you have had on me, I just second shot my 9th wedding last weekend ❤️
I rented it once and still love the quality of that one photoshoot. It was a lot to carry, with the 70-200 f2.8 on the other body. If I didn't have to carry both cameras on me I'd love this lens.
Beautiful lens, one I doubt I'll ever buy, but I do use the EF 28-70L 2.8 that came out in 94 on my R6MII and R7. Not as sharp, but works for what I do.
ha ha, yes, I made that same choice, 85mm or 28-70...chose the 28-70 and next lens will likely be the 85mm DS (its bright here in Texas and that creamy bokeh so sooooo smooooooth, like buttah!).
I used to be all about prime lenses, but I can't afford the super fast prime lenses, so I have the Tamron 20mm 2.8, Samyang 35mm 1.4, and Sony 85mm 1.8, but now I have the Tamron 35-150mm 2-2.8, and it's the only lens I'm using right now. I do carry the 20mm 2.8 just in case I need an ultra wide lens.
I mean, sure a 28-70 sounds like a very useful range, but I've been using the EF 35 1.4 and honestly it's such a God tear lens I'm willing to take some extra steps moving back and forth..
I gotta hand it to you... aside from the obvious "charm", your videos are so dam* entertaining. I don't shoot "people" subjects (95% Aviation, Airshows, etc)... but if I see a Vanessa Joy video, I do a "fly by" 😉 - I am a Canon user (R5, R6m2, RF100-500 - BEAST of a combination tracking a fighter jet pushing near Mach1 ~ 760 mph) ... The "KillJoy" character is the "bonus" 😂
Great video as always Ms. Joy! I work with Nikon and Sigma Art lenses and love them both! It's great when Canon and Sony create great products like the Canon RF 28-70 2.0 as it puts pressure on Nikon and the others players to up their games. Please keep your great videos coming!
Hands down, 28-70 is the best lens I've ever owned and used. It never leaves my camera. As a wedding photographer, 28-70mm, is a very what I use 90% of the time. Is the 28-70 heavy?.... Hit the gym and it won't be heavy 😂 10/10 recommend
I bought this lens at the height of COVID lockdown and the only one in stock in all of Ontario Canada! Came with a free Canon protect filter and polarizing filter that probably cost more than some lenses haha!
@@VanessaJoy Thanks for responding and always loved your content. The funny thing is good lens and glass are timeless. This lens is released when? 2018 and we are still raving about it haha
Vanessa you are awesome!! I love your videos! I no use my RF 24-105 f2.8 for just about everything. I have seen great things about the 85mm 1.2, 15-35 f2.8 and the 28-70 f2. It is so hard to determine what else i really need in addition to my rf 24-105, and 50mm 1.8. Do I really need a new one? I shoot on r6 mark ii. The rf 24-105 f2.8 L has been incredible, its my baby lol
I tried this lens last week and it was fantastic, but I am a snowflake and couldn't handle the weight with a 2nd body and rf 85mm 1.2 on. Great video and I really like the internet troll version of you (or is that the real you?)
Bit of a math error my friend. At a crop of 1.6 you will see the equivalent of 44 to 112mm. The 112 is closer to a good start for portraits. I prefer 135 and longer. F2.0 is a start for compression. The 70 to 200mm is a better solution. As you said, if one lens is chosen the 28 to 70 is the only one.
I shoot 8K video with the Canon R5 C and I've been using the Canon RF 24-70 f2.8, so I have a couple of related questions: (1) Is the 2.0 vs. 2.8 valuable to you mostly because of the shallow depth of field, or because you really shoot wide open a lot because of low light? (2) How does the 28-70 2.0 compare to the 24-70 2.8 when stopped down to around f5.6 or more? For video, I find the shallow depth of field when shooting wide open to be an obstacle to holding focus on my main subject, and I have found that the extra noise I get from doubling or quadrupling the ISO is perfectly acceptable if it helps me stay in focus. And I'm viewing the images on a 65-inch 8K screen, so I can see every detail. I understand that noise on a large print is different from--and maybe more objectionable than--noise on a video screen, so that's part of what I'm asking here.
Great questions! 1- for both. I shoot low light a TON and that extra little bit helps for sure. Plus I do see a DOF difference between 2 and 2.8. 2- personally I find the 28-70 much more crisp and clear overall than the 24-70 at any point **when shooting natural light** and potentially difficult ambient light (tungsten etc). If you used both of them side by side in a controlled studio lighting environment I don’t know that I’d be able to tell the difference, but probably could. The 28-79 is just a higher quality lens For video I can definitely see the potential struggle with keeping focus, but with the R5C in auto focus I would think you’d be ok but of course there are a lot of other factors. Hope that helps!
I have the 24-70, was just wondering if you’ve done a comparison? I have a wedding coming up and will have the 70-200 and 14-35(holy trinity?). (I don’t think I’ve seen any of your videos where you’ve added so much of your quirkiness, and I love it!) 😎
Whatever we have in our bag will get the job done for a wedding or two. A lens like the 28-70mm f/2 is more about creating our style and portfolio with the extra stop of shallow depth of field. Alternatively, using two primes like the 35mm and 85mm creates the style of only two perspectives, producing a more consistent look to the wedding album.
the EF 24-70 2.8 was one of my first L lenses I ever bought (maybe the very first). It's a GREAT lens, but to me doesn't compare to this one. this is so much more crisp and the difference between 2.8 and f2 is big IMO
@@VanessaJoy Yes, sometimes we have to remind ourselves that the lens creates an image based on more than just the f-stop. Here, it's also what the lens is designed to do at f/2 that sets it apart from the 24-70 f/2.8.
35-85mm f/2 is my dream lens to replace the holy trinity of primes. I could use some more reach at weddings and photojournalism and forgo some width. Meanwhile 28-70mm will do.
if you just run the holy trinity with the 105 macro, you're still just running 4 lenses. if 28-70 f2 gets brought to all the big 3 platforms though it would probably quickly replace the 24-70 pretty quick
I can see why you like the f2, and no mistake it's a great lens, but for me, the lack of stabilization plus the weight pushed me back to the f2.8 version, especially in low light where I get more from the extra stab than I lose from the aperture.
Can I register my vote for the channel the internet troll lady talked about starting... despite being incandescently angry and somewhat short-sighted she was very watchable and strangely attractive! Oh... just ordered this lens and looking forwards to enjoying that too, cheers, great advice and content! :)
Aw haha.. Love the video ! I Use the Nikon 24-70 f2.8 Z and the 105mm f1.4 combo for most wedding shots these days. I wish we had an f2 equivalent, it Just seems to have that edge on focus separation. I couldn't agree with you more on what was said. It's giving you a prime, when you don't have time!
HAHAHA....You're a Godess and I love the composition and color in this video! Canon color is boss as shown in this video. Well done as always Vanessa! Bo
I originally wanted to get the R5 and RF 28-70mm F2 lens, but I noticed on e-infinity that I could get the R5 Mark II with the 24-105mm F4 lens for the same price. I plan to use it as my main lens for event photography and some portraits. Which of the two options would you pick and why?
For all the reasons I state in the video I’d get the first option. Spend more on the better lens, even at the sacrifice of the camera. Lenses last longer in your bag and the R5 is a great camera - although I’d honestly get the r6 mark ii over the R5
This, I feel, is... Which is the most versatile wedding/portrait lens, yes, maybe this one, the best lens is probably something really quite different, and at the risk of swearing, [whispers], Sigma 24mm f1.4 Art and 35mm f1.4 Art, for a very significant saving. Still no fast wide RF primes... 😪 The best lens, 135mm, and prey you have enough room to use it!😁 Still, what's not to love about Ranty McRantaJoy... I'll get my coat!
My RF 600 F4 doesn't have a control ring, you wedding and portrait shooters get all the fancy new options. I would love to buy 28-70 and an 85 1.2 but as a wildlife photographer I can't really justify it. The only time I really could've used either of those lenses was in Botswana last year where we had a male lion just waking up after sunset 20 ft from are vehicle.
@@VanessaJoy okay thanks, by the way I'm quite confused which lens to Buy, whether RF 24-105 f2.8 or RF 28-70 F2. For wedding photography. Can u suggest me which to Buy I mainly shoot wedding.
If I were to switch back to Canon I would probably just get the 24-105. It’s not fast but I can shoot a portrait. I can shoot landscape with the 24. Finally I don’t have to switch lenses and the amount of stuff I’m packing is simplified.
I wish you had gone over why anyone would or should purchase the 28-70 over the 24-70. I may have missed it in the video but what is your take on this? It's a few hundred more dollars going to the 28-70 and it doesnt have Image Stabilization.
To me the 2.8 aperture versus the F2 aperture is a huge difference. The 24-70 2.8 has zoom lens quality, it’s good quality, but the 28 to 70 F2 has a prime lens quality to it and it’s just wildly better my opinion.
@@VanessaJoythank you for that feedback. Your video literally just inspired me to purchase the 28-70. I bought one from KEH not 2 mins after watching your video. 🫡📷🤜🏾
@@VanessaJoy Thanks for the info, I thought it looked like you could, but there was a man in one youtube video that said you couldn't with out some kind of spacer
Thanks for the excellent video! I mainly have done more sporting events photography though I also do a lot of sports portrait compositions too. My main workhorse has been the RF 70-200 F2.8L for it all and has been doing the job well for me but I have also started picking up clients for high school senior picture sessions too. I wanted to get another lens for that type of work and to use for those sports portraits too. I have been trying to debate between the RF 28-70 F2.0L and the RF 85 F1.2L. This is more of a side job/hobby I do, so I can't really throw the money down on both right now. I am leaning more towards the 28-70 for the versatility of the zoom and get the 85 down the road if I still need it, what your thoughts?
Considering the size of the 135mm f/1.2, I'm a little scared of how large an 85-135mm f/2 zoom would be... Two years carrying the 28-70mm f/2 has been a great gym workout for you! 💪
I’m curious, do you use the 70-200mm a lot for weddings? I think it’s one of my favorite lenses, along with the 28-70, but I’ve seen a lot of wedding photographers saying they hardly ever pick it up, and I’m not but whyyyy?
@@VanessaJoy Haha, omg that’s crazy. But yeah, I guess I understand with the 135mm. Is it the low aperture that you find more useless for low light and such? I’m sure it’s sharper too, but I’ve always preferred the ability to zoom out and closer in.
I got one recently (only other ones I have are a 50 and the 70-200 F2.8) and am a pretty big guy - I still found it damn heavy to carry around all day lol... It is nice though :)
You definitely know what you're talking about. I love watching your videos. I know a lot about what you are speaking of and do it myself some of it. What I like most about you is you are not a "know it all" arsehole like certain other RUclipsrs that I won't name names that I have met in person and were total douche bags. You are funny and collected and have over the many years gained a lot of my respect. AND... you don't clickbait like the same other RUclipsrs do, just to get views. You have integrity and honesty. What you say in your Titles is exactly what you mean and what you talk about and not misleading cover photos. So thank you so much for that. I have a business to run at the same time and I spend a large amount of my time just researching and educating myself, so I don't have time for the bs. In fact, it pisses me off and I report those RUclipsrs for the false titles or misleading titles. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into giving us all the information, keeping it entertaining, real, and upfront. It is very appreciated. Btw, I almost crapped ... or peed myself when you held those three lenses like you did in your hand like that. .. My nerves definitely went into overload... like OH DEAR GOODNESS... EEEEEEKKK PLEASE DON"T DROP THOSE!!!
I cannot begin to tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time to write this! Means the world to me. I'll do my best to keep creating videos like this that get you the information FAST - haha though my know-it-all DOES come out when the trolls come knocking. Thanks for being here!
@@VanessaJoy eh... trolls knock because they don't have a house or home, just a bridge that they live under. They are ugly on the inside, who knows, maybe the outside too .. and no one likes them in reality so they have to make other people's lives miserable. One thing that truly gets on my last nerve is how you don't have the millions of followers that this other RUclipsr ego *ssH-le has. You're more relevant, respectful, yet have less than 100k subs? What kinda messed up crap is that about?.
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I love how you get directly to the point. I hate it when other RUclipsrs stall and avoid the main subject. I guess you already know your fans admire your work and we watch you in hopes of becoming better photographers.
I'm working on getting to the point even faster! trying out some "cold starts" coming in soon. glad you like
Vanessa is all killer, No filler!
Oh man totally agree, I find I have to skip the first minute or two of most videos because they give their lengthy "context" and personal path explanation. Its like they all follow this formula and it gets really old and time-wasting fast. Yes, so thank you for just getting to the point. Most of us watching you already know who you are and for many who consume a lot of videos just want the meat and potatoes...
I switched from Nikon to Canon this year and one of the reasons why was the 28-70! It's a great lens and it has not left my R5 since I got it. I've always been a prime girl but this lens just works so well and is so sharp. It's magic!
same! I was always about the primes until this baby!
If you were to add a prime to compliment this lens, which would you choose? Just curious
@@CapturedByKen 24mm f1.4
Sharpness is the only thing that counts nowadays
#sarcasm
Sigma was trying to make something like this in a while. They make 24-35 and 28-45 1.8. Tamron seems to be on it too. They already made a 35-150 that's just as big and heavy, haha. I hope a 28-70 is underway.
I just had the proudest day of my life at my daughter’s wedding. I was astounded by the 12+ hour stint put in by their photographer. 2 camera bodies, hip holster, heavy lenses, and she still somehow still managed to melt into the event and somehow become a part of it. Sheer graft. Respect to your profession.
aw thanks for sharing that!
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The 28-70 is truly godlike. I use it for theatre photography, at f/2 in a dark theatre the photos come out so clean it's like I shot them in daylight. Absolutely game changing to get prime lens speed on a versatile zoom!
Yes!!
No question this is awesome lens. I shoot all wedding with rf 28-70mm f2 lens only.
I probably like rf 50mm f1.2 a bit more.
Awesome!! I don’t know why you don’t have 500k subscribers already!! Spread the word everyone!!
Would really appreciate that!!! ❤️
Agree. It's a beast - hoofed mine through to London, Venice, Florence, Rome, Amalfi, Costa Rica, Japan...images are worth every penny, even if my right arm is now slightly larger than my left.
haha - gotta start finding something for our left arms to work with
I just noticed my right side is sooooo much tighter than my left! Now I know why!
After spending way too much on RF gear last year, this superb review has got me wanting a new lens. Love the channel and the great points you make in these reviews.
thanks so much!!
Couldn't agree more about the 28-70 F2. First time I used it was doing senior pictures for my niece when the lens initially became available. Used it alongside an 85mm 1.2 (EF mount adapted). The 28-70 blew me away. I would have left the 85 1.2 at home had I known the 28-70 would perform so well.
It’s amazing 🤩
Ive just ordered one, Im happy to do whatever you tell me ❤
haha amazing! have fun with it! That's an order ;-)
Best video I’ve seen of yours yet, and I’ve watched sooo many! Your style, giving the punch line up front, making fun of trolls, shooting yourself on the 85 1.2, and just amazing skill behind the camera over so many videos just got you another subscriber. Love your work! ❤
Aw thank you so much!!!
OMG I love that she Brough back Kill Joy. To funny.. Keep them coming Vanessa.
Haha sheeee’sssss baaaaaaackkk!!!
Really a great Lens. I bought this with my original R6. The R6 is gone(have a MkII now). But the 28-70 is a forever keeper.
Definitely a keeper
I've owned my 28-70 since 2019 and it still is my main lens (81% of all my frames shot since then) for all the reasons you pointed out. It is an absolute tank as well as it being immaculate in image quality and character. With IBIS on all pro bodies going forward, I just don't see this changing for a decade, unless there's a mark 2 with a breakthrough on optical quality (similar to the EF 35 1.4L Mark 1 vs Mark 2), or if the wide end dropped down to 24mm or wider. A 24-105 2.0L would be my ultimate lens to rule them all, and would pair perfectly with my 100-300L that I'm patiently waiting to ship...
I think I'm around that same percentage too - did you use a program to figure that out to an exact %?
I don't even care about the weight of this lens, the image quality is mind blowing. I don't regret a single dollar spent on this glass and paired up to my R6, results are simply beyond rewarding.
It's refreshing to see someone still using Canon these days. That looks like a great lens!
It really is!
Using that lens since may 2022 and can certainly confirm that this is a kickass lens for event photography. 95% of the time I'm using this lens. Wide open it has wicked tack sharp quality!
Nice!
I rented it after seeing this video. You are 100 correct at how great it is. You are my favorite photographer to follow on RUclips.
Great to hear! So glad you liked it. And thanks ☺️
just picked up the 28-70! sooooo worth it!
Yayyyyy
What's your thought on 50mm 1.2? I just feel like 50mm is bit boring focal length to me. I feel like it doesn't have characteristic(not too wide, not too tight). It's perfect focal length but that's what it make it bit boring.
This is what I think of a 50 :) ruclips.net/video/H1VsjkhlDI4/видео.html
Vanessa:
I just recently found your channel and although I'm a Nikon user I truly enjoy your presentations. I really like the way you explain things in an interesting and entertaining way while getting the important information across. Keep up the great work.
Welcome aboard! so happy you're here :-)
I just shot an event with a 70-200 after usually using my 24-70 mostly. It was heavy and my arm is killing me, but I really loved the images I got out of it.
My hand and shoulder, though! What was I thinking? I need to get the Z version, though.
Love this video!
The 70-200mm is the way to go. 24-70 and you’ll be getting in the other photographers or videographers way
My favorite RF was 85 1.2 DS, just sold it last week now I’ve got 2 cameras, one with 28-70 2 and one with 70-200 2.8 . I’m all set
Nice!
I too use the 28-70 lens on every shoot, although I always try to use my rF85 1.2 whenever I can. I want the RF135 1.8
both great lenses combo'd with this one
I want the 135 1.8 too. Sold out everywhere
I learned allot but the humor was a bright spot to me love your videos and your fun approach!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wish I had one in my bag! It would be great if the settings, like focal length, aperture, etc… were indicated on the shots you showed. At this price, I’d almost force myself to shoot wide-open for everything 😂
Haha look at the rest of the educational videos if you want all of the settings. Unfortunately, it takes an extraordinary amount of time to put all the settings in every photo so I try not to kill my editor with that on gear reviews
It's great to have those RF lenses but for the everyday person, older EF L lenses and ART lenses are spectacular when adapted onto the RF mount. They're even better than they were on the EF bodies. There are no flies on them and, frankly, are better than what 99.9% of people will even need or be able to realize with them.
so true and only a $99 adaptor!
I've done weddings with the 28-70 and loved it. My one caveat is that I'm scared all the time I'll break it and also when it was turned on me I realised it's enormous and quite intimidating to look down.
haha yeah i could see it being intimidating
Makes you get respect as a photographer. 😉
You’re such a badass! ❤.
That intro was the best! 😂 Even non photographers would love that. You should make that a reel lol.
Haha I took your advice and just posted it on Instagram: instagram.com/reel/CtG6FPGps3X/?igshid=ZWQyN2ExYTkwZQ==
Thanks for the idea!!
I’m with you 100%. It is my favorite lens for events. It’s hard to describe the look of the photos. They are phenomenal. Paired with the R5 the combo is a workhorse with special picture quality.
so true!
The crazy part is that she is not exaggerating about the trolls. Lol. Love your work, you’re helping me tremendously!
Haha - not an exaggeration at all. 😂 Glad to hear I’ve helped you!
Well just as I was sold on getting this lens, Canon releases the 24-105 F2.8!! Now I have to wait to see the reviews on this one… hopefully you have that video coming soon Vanessa!
Can’t wait to give it a try and let you guys know!
Flex 'em if ya got 'em!! Is missing out on 24mm made up for by getting to F2? I think it would be, especially for weddings where lighting is going to often be awful. I love my 24-70 F2.8, but I would definitely love for it to be F2!!
Yeah absolutely- they keep in mind I do have the 15 to 35 just in case I need something wider but honestly I rarely use it
From a business perspective, buying the 28-70mm makes more sense than the 3 primes shown in your video. Also, I agree with your comment about the coverage that zooms afford. I love shooting with primes but zooms are more versatile. Clients don't care which lens you shoot with as long as you get the shot. Finally, tell Ms. Killjoy to take some time away from the computer she reminds me of a keyboard warrior.
😂
The 28-70mm f/2 is a fine lens. I have the 28-70mm f/2.8
I also have the following prime lenses:
24mm f/2
28mm f/2
35mm f/1.4
50mm f/1.4
85mm f/1.4
Since I prefer primes, I use my 28-70mm as a backup to my primes.
Nice setup!
The 28-70 is perfect for basketball games when shooting under the net as well! The f2.0 helps so much more as compared to the 24-70 f2.8. :)
ooo fun!
@@VanessaJoy forgot to also say, even though I already love the 28-70, the video was very entertaining! Loved how you presented it. 🤩
Absolutely great lens! I wasnt excited about EF to RF change but this is why they did.
yup!!! worth the pain to change :-)
You hear that trolls??!! You just got burned!! Finally bought my 28-70. Now I have 2 R6, 28-70, 24-70, 70-200 all RF and a 85 sigma. Very happy with that and my Low pro 550 AW II Bag. Thanx Venessa for all the help over the last 3 years. Hope I get to work with your team one day
Oooo that’s a nice gear bag!!
@@VanessaJoy your telling me. It can carry eeeeverything. I even had a light stand, a glow para snap 36”, and tripod attached to it. Sure it weighted 42lbs but I was very happy to have that with me. I can’t thank you enough for the influence you have had on me, I just second shot my 9th wedding last weekend ❤️
I switched from Sony to Canon for this lens. There were other reasons, but that was the big one. Don't regret it.
welcome :-)
I rented it once and still love the quality of that one photoshoot. It was a lot to carry, with the 70-200 f2.8 on the other body. If I didn't have to carry both cameras on me I'd love this lens.
Oof yeah I don’t carry two bodies
This video is great. You are fun to watch.
Thanks for watching ☺️
I just bought mine. Soon, I too will have Vanessa Joy biceps.
Haha 😆
Great vid VJ.
Did you have one go to lens on the DSLR?
Thanks! I sure did ☺️ ruclips.net/video/H1VsjkhlDI4/видео.html
Beautiful lens, one I doubt I'll ever buy, but I do use the EF 28-70L 2.8 that came out in 94 on my R6MII and R7. Not as sharp, but works for what I do.
You mean the 24-70 2.8?
@@VanessaJoy nope, it's a 28-70L 2.8 usm, 24-70 2.8 replaced it in 2002.
The lens is awesome for photos. I went with the RF24-70 though as it does not tend to focus breath and the IS helps for video and low light.
Nice
Vanessa knows it! Great video!
Thank you!
Thanks for an excellent video. What filter, if any , do you use for protection?
I don't ☺️
❤ Just wow. Always has my full attention.
Aw thx ☺️
No the part you do the angry girl typing is awsome😂😂😂
😂 glad you get my humor
ha ha, yes, I made that same choice, 85mm or 28-70...chose the 28-70 and next lens will likely be the 85mm DS (its bright here in Texas and that creamy bokeh so sooooo smooooooth, like buttah!).
Good choice!
I used to be all about prime lenses, but I can't afford the super fast prime lenses, so I have the Tamron 20mm 2.8, Samyang 35mm 1.4, and Sony 85mm 1.8, but now I have the Tamron 35-150mm 2-2.8, and it's the only lens I'm using right now. I do carry the 20mm 2.8 just in case I need an ultra wide lens.
Loving Vanessa-troll back
Hehe Killjoy got out of her dungeon
i'm not a canon shooter, but i use the 24-70mm and i use it just like you said you use your canon lens
I mean, sure a 28-70 sounds like a very useful range, but I've been using the EF 35 1.4 and honestly it's such a God tear lens I'm willing to take some extra steps moving back and forth..
Nice!
Changing that lens right beside a lake 😮
haha
LOL! Love the rants! You rant like a PRO! Love it!
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I gotta hand it to you... aside from the obvious "charm", your videos are so dam* entertaining. I don't shoot "people" subjects (95% Aviation, Airshows, etc)... but if I see a Vanessa Joy video, I do a "fly by" 😉 - I am a Canon user (R5, R6m2, RF100-500 - BEAST of a combination tracking a fighter jet pushing near Mach1 ~ 760 mph) ... The "KillJoy" character is the "bonus" 😂
Haha thx
Great video as always Ms. Joy! I work with Nikon and Sigma Art lenses and love them both! It's great when Canon and Sony create great products like the Canon RF 28-70 2.0 as it puts pressure on Nikon and the others players to up their games. Please keep your great videos coming!
Thanks for sharing!
Great Review, thanks for sharing, I use the 24-240 zoom on my Canon R5 C, it allows me to cover almost 3 EF lens in my kit! thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing!
Great overview and review! The faux troll bit is classic...and accurate 😂
Haha thx
Never watched one of your videos and I can't afford this lens, this is just a hobby... But I loved your video. Subscribed!
Thank you SO MUCH Ashley!! Happy to have you here!
Hands down, 28-70 is the best lens I've ever owned and used. It never leaves my camera. As a wedding photographer, 28-70mm, is a very what I use 90% of the time. Is the 28-70 heavy?.... Hit the gym and it won't be heavy 😂 10/10 recommend
haha hit the gym for sure!
I bought this lens at the height of COVID lockdown and the only one in stock in all of Ontario Canada! Came with a free Canon protect filter and polarizing filter that probably cost more than some lenses haha!
That’s amazing!!
@@VanessaJoy Thanks for responding and always loved your content. The funny thing is good lens and glass are timeless. This lens is released when? 2018 and we are still raving about it haha
I have the EF version got a great deal on it. Just got my Mark II and will have to just adapt it. Someday I’ll step up to the RF.
There is no EF version. There’s a 24-70 f2.8 which is quite different. ☺️ if you have the chance to rent this RF28-70 f2 definitely check it out!
@@VanessaJoy oops you’re correct, I stand corrected. Still a very good lens
Vanessa you are awesome!! I love your videos! I no use my RF 24-105 f2.8 for just about everything. I have seen great things about the 85mm 1.2, 15-35 f2.8 and the 28-70 f2. It is so hard to determine what else i really need in addition to my rf 24-105, and 50mm 1.8. Do I really need a new one? I shoot on r6 mark ii. The rf 24-105 f2.8 L has been incredible, its my baby lol
I tried this lens last week and it was fantastic, but I am a snowflake and couldn't handle the weight with a 2nd body and rf 85mm 1.2 on. Great video and I really like the internet troll version of you (or is that the real you?)
haha - time to start curling with the lenses. haha - oh... well.. I mean... it's a little bit the real me
28-70 would be the main reason I would consider getting and R mount FF camera.
It’s worth the move for sure
Love the Troll clips!!! 😂😂😂 so accurate
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Bit of a math error my friend.
At a crop of 1.6 you will see the equivalent of 44 to 112mm.
The 112 is closer to a good start for portraits. I prefer 135 and longer. F2.0 is a start for compression. The 70 to 200mm is a better solution.
As you said, if one lens is chosen the 28 to 70 is the only one.
Thanks, Vanessa! Great video! And again, fun seeing your alter ego "Harassing Vanessa!" 😂
Haha we call her Killjoy
OMG! 😂😂😂 I loved this video! You had me cracking up the entire time 😅 thank you 🙏🏼 keep it up! 😊
Glad you enjoyed!
I shoot 8K video with the Canon R5 C and I've been using the Canon RF 24-70 f2.8, so I have a couple of related questions: (1) Is the 2.0 vs. 2.8 valuable to you mostly because of the shallow depth of field, or because you really shoot wide open a lot because of low light? (2) How does the 28-70 2.0 compare to the 24-70 2.8 when stopped down to around f5.6 or more? For video, I find the shallow depth of field when shooting wide open to be an obstacle to holding focus on my main subject, and I have found that the extra noise I get from doubling or quadrupling the ISO is perfectly acceptable if it helps me stay in focus. And I'm viewing the images on a 65-inch 8K screen, so I can see every detail. I understand that noise on a large print is different from--and maybe more objectionable than--noise on a video screen, so that's part of what I'm asking here.
Great questions! 1- for both. I shoot low light a TON and that extra little bit helps for sure. Plus I do see a DOF difference between 2 and 2.8. 2- personally I find the 28-70 much more crisp and clear overall than the 24-70 at any point **when shooting natural light** and potentially difficult ambient light (tungsten etc). If you used both of them side by side in a controlled studio lighting environment I don’t know that I’d be able to tell the difference, but probably could. The 28-79 is just a higher quality lens
For video I can definitely see the potential struggle with keeping focus, but with the R5C in auto focus I would think you’d be ok but of course there are a lot of other factors.
Hope that helps!
I have the 24-70, was just wondering if you’ve done a comparison? I have a wedding coming up and will have the 70-200 and 14-35(holy trinity?). (I don’t think I’ve seen any of your videos where you’ve added so much of your quirkiness, and I love it!) 😎
Whatever we have in our bag will get the job done for a wedding or two. A lens like the 28-70mm f/2 is more about creating our style and portfolio with the extra stop of shallow depth of field. Alternatively, using two primes like the 35mm and 85mm creates the style of only two perspectives, producing a more consistent look to the wedding album.
the EF 24-70 2.8 was one of my first L lenses I ever bought (maybe the very first). It's a GREAT lens, but to me doesn't compare to this one. this is so much more crisp and the difference between 2.8 and f2 is big IMO
@@VanessaJoy Yes, sometimes we have to remind ourselves that the lens creates an image based on more than just the f-stop. Here, it's also what the lens is designed to do at f/2 that sets it apart from the 24-70 f/2.8.
35-85mm f/2 is my dream lens to replace the holy trinity of primes. I could use some more reach at weddings and photojournalism and forgo some width. Meanwhile 28-70mm will do.
That sounds nice!
if you just run the holy trinity with the 105 macro, you're still just running 4 lenses. if 28-70 f2 gets brought to all the big 3 platforms though it would probably quickly replace the 24-70 pretty quick
I can see why you like the f2, and no mistake it's a great lens, but for me, the lack of stabilization plus the weight pushed me back to the f2.8 version, especially in low light where I get more from the extra stab than I lose from the aperture.
Can I register my vote for the channel the internet troll lady talked about starting... despite being incandescently angry and somewhat short-sighted she was very watchable and strangely attractive!
Oh... just ordered this lens and looking forwards to enjoying that too, cheers, great advice and content! :)
Haha glad you like Ms killJoy
Was going to get this but got the 85 1.2 might get it later on but that 85 is insane smooth as butter.
It’s a beauty!
Aw haha.. Love the video ! I Use the Nikon 24-70 f2.8 Z and the 105mm f1.4 combo for most wedding shots these days. I wish we had an f2 equivalent, it Just seems to have that edge on focus separation. I couldn't agree with you more on what was said. It's giving you a prime, when you don't have time!
ahhhh love that last sentence!
HAHAHA....You're a Godess and I love the composition and color in this video! Canon color is boss as shown in this video. Well done as always Vanessa!
Bo
Thank you ☺️
I had rested my 35mm and 85mm on 2 bodies setup for weddings until i forgot my 2nd body. My trusted 24-70 came through.. AGAIN
Is that the same loaner lens or did you have to eventually buy it?
I bought it ☺️
I originally wanted to get the R5 and RF 28-70mm F2 lens, but I noticed on e-infinity that I could get the R5 Mark II with the 24-105mm F4 lens for the same price. I plan to use it as my main lens for event photography and some portraits. Which of the two options would you pick and why?
For all the reasons I state in the video I’d get the first option. Spend more on the better lens, even at the sacrifice of the camera. Lenses last longer in your bag and the R5 is a great camera - although I’d honestly get the r6 mark ii over the R5
I loved the angry Vanessa😅❤
Haha 🤣
This, I feel, is... Which is the most versatile wedding/portrait lens, yes, maybe this one, the best lens is probably something really quite different, and at the risk of swearing, [whispers], Sigma 24mm f1.4 Art and 35mm f1.4 Art, for a very significant saving. Still no fast wide RF primes... 😪
The best lens, 135mm, and prey you have enough room to use it!😁
Still, what's not to love about Ranty McRantaJoy...
I'll get my coat!
My RF 600 F4 doesn't have a control ring, you wedding and portrait shooters get all the fancy new options. I would love to buy 28-70 and an 85 1.2 but as a wildlife photographer I can't really justify it. The only time I really could've used either of those lenses was in Botswana last year where we had a male lion just waking up after sunset 20 ft from are vehicle.
hmmmmm yeah I don't think I would use this lens for wildlife - at least not from far away!
Does it pair well with R7?
Works great with it! Little heavy in comparison tho
@@VanessaJoy okay thanks, by the way I'm quite confused which lens to Buy, whether RF 24-105 f2.8 or RF 28-70 F2. For wedding photography. Can u suggest me which to Buy I mainly shoot wedding.
If I were to switch back to Canon I would probably just get the 24-105. It’s not fast but I can shoot a portrait. I can shoot landscape with the 24. Finally I don’t have to switch lenses and the amount of stuff I’m packing is simplified.
It looks like an amazing lens, but for us camera enthusiasts who don’t make a living with the camera, the price tag is shocking!
It can be!
Is it actually enough better than 24-70mm 2.8 that you can tell??
Yes. 100% yes
Have you ever used 24-70mm
I wish you had gone over why anyone would or should purchase the 28-70 over the 24-70. I may have missed it in the video but what is your take on this? It's a few hundred more dollars going to the 28-70 and it doesnt have Image Stabilization.
To me the 2.8 aperture versus the F2 aperture is a huge difference. The 24-70 2.8 has zoom lens quality, it’s good quality, but the 28 to 70 F2 has a prime lens quality to it and it’s just wildly better my opinion.
@@VanessaJoythank you for that feedback. Your video literally just inspired me to purchase the 28-70. I bought one from KEH not 2 mins after watching your video. 🫡📷🤜🏾
Can you mount your camera on a tripod with this iense with out a battery grip?
Yes
@@VanessaJoy Thanks for the info, I thought it looked like you could, but there was a man in one youtube video that said you couldn't with out some kind of spacer
Thanks for the excellent video! I mainly have done more sporting events photography though I also do a lot of sports portrait compositions too. My main workhorse has been the RF 70-200 F2.8L for it all and has been doing the job well for me but I have also started picking up clients for high school senior picture sessions too. I wanted to get another lens for that type of work and to use for those sports portraits too. I have been trying to debate between the RF 28-70 F2.0L and the RF 85 F1.2L. This is more of a side job/hobby I do, so I can't really throw the money down on both right now. I am leaning more towards the 28-70 for the versatility of the zoom and get the 85 down the road if I still need it, what your thoughts?
The 28-70, definitely
@@VanessaJoy Thank you! Keep up the great videos!
Considering the size of the 135mm f/1.2, I'm a little scared of how large an 85-135mm f/2 zoom would be...
Two years carrying the 28-70mm f/2 has been a great gym workout for you! 💪
haha it sure has
Your husband & kids must have thought mommy was losing it. LOL Your workouts are showing, nice guns. Even a Nikon shooter loved the video ;-)
Lol I’m pretty sure they think I’m losing it anyway 😂
I’m curious, do you use the 70-200mm a lot for weddings? I think it’s one of my favorite lenses, along with the 28-70, but I’ve seen a lot of wedding photographers saying they hardly ever pick it up, and I’m not but whyyyy?
I don’t even bring it to weddings - and I do own it. I use the RF 135mm 1.8.
@@VanessaJoy Haha, omg that’s crazy. But yeah, I guess I understand with the 135mm. Is it the low aperture that you find more useless for low light and such? I’m sure it’s sharper too, but I’ve always preferred the ability to zoom out and closer in.
Killjoy made me subscribe!😂 Great video!
Welcome aboard!
I got one recently (only other ones I have are a 50 and the 70-200 F2.8) and am a pretty big guy - I still found it damn heavy to carry around all day lol... It is nice though :)
It is heavy but worth it!
I like Glasses Joy..she gets it.
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You definitely know what you're talking about. I love watching your videos. I know a lot about what you are speaking of and do it myself some of it. What I like most about you is you are not a "know it all" arsehole like certain other RUclipsrs that I won't name names that I have met in person and were total douche bags. You are funny and collected and have over the many years gained a lot of my respect. AND... you don't clickbait like the same other RUclipsrs do, just to get views. You have integrity and honesty. What you say in your Titles is exactly what you mean and what you talk about and not misleading cover photos. So thank you so much for that. I have a business to run at the same time and I spend a large amount of my time just researching and educating myself, so I don't have time for the bs. In fact, it pisses me off and I report those RUclipsrs for the false titles or misleading titles.
Thanks for all the time and effort you put into giving us all the information, keeping it entertaining, real, and upfront. It is very appreciated.
Btw, I almost crapped ... or peed myself when you held those three lenses like you did in your hand like that. .. My nerves definitely went into overload... like OH DEAR GOODNESS... EEEEEEKKK PLEASE DON"T DROP THOSE!!!
I cannot begin to tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time to write this! Means the world to me. I'll do my best to keep creating videos like this that get you the information FAST - haha though my know-it-all DOES come out when the trolls come knocking. Thanks for being here!
@@VanessaJoy eh... trolls knock because they don't have a house or home, just a bridge that they live under. They are ugly on the inside, who knows, maybe the outside too .. and no one likes them in reality so they have to make other people's lives miserable.
One thing that truly gets on my last nerve is how you don't have the millions of followers that this other RUclipsr ego *ssH-le has. You're more relevant, respectful, yet have less than 100k subs? What kinda messed up crap is that about?.
haha I'm trying to get more - it's a LONG climb that's for sure! Any sharing you do is always helpful and appreciated!