@@roadapple66 robert kennedy who just beat all the big phrama in court came out and said fauci nih outsourced bioweapons resaearch aka c19 to ukraine to avoid the death penalty
I love the dichotomy of Mike saying "please don't get mad" immediately followed by both Micah and Charlie saying something to upset as many people as possible
Ignorant statement. Springfield makes comparable quality products to Glock and SIG and thats why they're still one of the best sold and rated firearms👌 🇺🇸
@@fight4ourright306 you mean like there whole line of polymer pistols and this vhs they ship in from overseas Edit maybe they don't ship them I could be mistaken they may have they rights to produce them here. Either way they didn't define them.
"The Springfield Armory Hellion, much like their Hellcat pistols, is an imported firearm made by a Croatian manufacturer, HS Produkt. “Hellion” is the American name for the HS Produkt VHS-2 rifle."
Dustin have the issues with the 105 been dealt with? I've been thinking about grabbing one. I know Palmetto is very busy with other projects, I'm hoping the 105 hasn't been forgotten like the MP5 clone
Coming from someone who served in the Estonian army with a Galil during a winter with an average of -10c: we all had the occasional malfunction, but generally it ran quite well. The most important part was putting on a little less oil than during the warmer months so it didn't clog as it froze.
And to be fair there's a difference between a gun being cold and pouring water directly into a gun and letting it freeze solid. But snow is a bitch to guns, I managed ti make my AR fail after throwing it in dust cover open side down
Lol seriously.. and my favorite things they have are the ak chambered in 5.56 and the ar in 7.62x39. I thought about buying them both just for shits and giggles but i'll probably end up with their AK-V (9mm)
@@CaffeineFreak13 Used to have an AKV with an ALG trigger. Definitely recommend. That thing was so much fun. People can say what they want about Palmetto, but they seem to be improving and I'll be damned if they don't put out several new clones / versions on the AK market. Their spiker clone is on my list now.
Gotta love Charlie’s statement “back-blast area clear” after Mike picks up the first rifle, then turns around and plugs his ears thru his Comtacs. Charlie is a legend.
When I went through Parris Island we had some Korean War Marines come and talk to us. They said that in Chosin if you had to piss you waited for an attack because you needed that piss to free the bolt up on your rifle. Respect.
In the Swedish army they told us to shit and piss when preparing to fight since getting hit in a full bladder will be worse than getting hit in an empty one.
@@antonw-uw4ov It actually makes a lot of sense. Also makes it far less likely that you will go septic. If you literally are full of $h!+ and get hit in the stomach, all that waste could kill you super quick. I bet having an empty stomach might actually "help", since it would basically just be stomach acid, which maybe could antiseptize things?
The fact that Mike didnt react to Charlie saying "its not really getting in there as much as i would like" shows how serious he was worried about the hangfire.
I've only ever shot steelcase for that reason. There's no reloading the brass that gets ripped out of there. I've seen pictures of cases ripped in half lmao.
@Your JOEtivation true but it was also snowing and they were dug into snow which I would assume allow moisture to get in and in a temperature where it's going to freeze quicker
Only way for the Chosin few to escape to saftey was Canadian Machine Gunners on Amphetamines with Millions of bullets and no sleep for days and days. 🇨🇦
Charlie is the chaotic goodness I needed in my life after I lost my best friend. He’s not dead or anything, he just has a kid and no longer has time for shenanigans.
As a married but childless middle age adult I totally get this. The sad thing is it continues on and on and on. A huge chunk of your friends (even the ones that profess to hating kids) will have children when they get married. And if they didn't forget you existed when they first got married they most definitely will the second they have kids. I think its because as a married yet happy childless couple we are living proof that they didn't actually *have* to procreate after getting married and everytime we mention sleeping in on weekends, planning vacations around what we want to do or having extra money for ourselves its like salt being rubbed in the wound. Lol Two of my best friends are around the same age as me and both are married and both are kidless and intend to stay that way and both couples describe the exact same treatment from their (previous) friends who now have kids. They stop calling, stop visiting, and eventually just go totally radio silent and a quick look at their Facebook pages shows their new life of indebted servitude. ;)
@@bp968I never want kids. People have slated me for it but idc. I can't think of anything worse than losing all my free time, money, wiping up piss shit and vomit up, losing sleep etc. I'll stick with my parrot haha
@@domenik8339 It’s just a meme, what’s so dang bad about it? Eta- never mind. Didn’t know it had far right extremist meaning. Literally just liked the picture because it was a frog doing that scene from once upon a time in Hollywood.
@@1bigboi_629 that’s why I like being a uncle. I can hand back my siblings kids at the end of the day. My oldest nephew is 6 and he is an absolute blast to be around.
The one thing I’ve learned from these videos, if anything, is if you do have a frozen rifle, and the safety and trigger will move and you do manage to get a first round off, you’d better make damn sure that shot counts. Cause the chances of getting a full cycle seems quite thin.
The cz bren2 test would have passed the test perfectly, the button does not freeze and it is easy to return it to the built-in. this is verified even in MAC bren2, neither the button nor the mechanism is frozen, and the reset button did not even have a hint of priming. cz bren2 is simply the best weapon hello from ukraine i am a military man and dealt with bren2 he is ideal.
@@skydivemurr The cz bren2 test would have passed the test perfectly, the button does not freeze and it is easy to return it to the built-in. this is verified even in MAC bren2, neither the button nor the mechanism is frozen, and the reset button did not even have a hint of priming. cz bren2 is simply the best weapon hello from ukraine i am a military man and dealt with bren2 he is ideal.
I love how the VHS-2 will singlehandedly revive Springfields reputation. Even though springfield doesnt even produce these weapons, some will associate it with springfield because they renamed it for their own gain.
To be fair, if they had pried the dust covers open manually, the Hellion would have had 0 issues total. Technically speaking, both the 105 and the Hellion only had 1 issue each. Stuck dust cover and frozen mag.
I was fortunate enough to know a gentleman several years ago that fought in the Battle of The Bulge. Me being the gun enthusiast I am I had to ask him how their M-1’s faired in the cold weather, he said when they woke in the morning they all peed on the actions of their rifles to unfreeze them. He swore by the M-1 Garand
My father was in Germany during WW2 and I've heard stories about the war, cold freezing rain and snow while hiding in a foxhole at dawn for instance, and they did the same... They were definitely a different group back then...
That reminds me of a documentary I watched years ago where one of the guys talked about having waves of Germans coming at them. He was the gunner on an M2 and, since they were going cyclical on the krauts, the barrel got red-hot. His A-gunner stood up in the middle of a massive firefight and pissed on the barrel of the M2. The guy said, "I still don't know how he was able to squeeze it out under that much enemy fire, but he did and it worked!" 🤣
@@frankrenda2519 Well, not for accuracy, but the AK was designed to be an oversized SMG and no one needed to bother thinking about hitting anything past 300 yards back then. Modern U.S. made AKs can meet or exceed ARs for accuracy, though, depending on which ones you're comparing.
@@dredlord47 modern AK-74s can be just as accurate as an AR you are correct about that, 762x39 is heavy so it drops really fast which is bad for accuracy in Old AKs but a light more modern round like 5.45x39 is very accurate, 5.45 is basically Russian 5.56 it was literally made as a response to the 5.56 performance and market. For the modern AK accuracy isn't a problem.
I love watching your videos,because beside you are a expirienced Army man,you do have sence of humor and positive energy. Thank you for that. 👍 But in this video ...from the begining ....your scepticism toward Croatian Hellion imported by Springfield ... I would say,whose under your level of a professional. I understand,you have negative stand toward Springfield as Company because they said something wrong. But to blamish and laugh at HS Product rifle ...after all the expiriences with their XD - XDM - XD Mod 2 - XDS - Hellcat - usage of VHS rifles in Afganistan,Iraq,Croatia,Kosovo ..under real working conditions ... Don t forget that Croats fought Homeland War mostly with Yugoslav version of AK-47 , H&K G-3 and FAL. War on Balkan area in winter ...it is something you would remember for life. Reliability,endurance,ease of maintenance ...all are aspects which where on the table when VHS-2 whose buildt. Does it have a trigger as Custom AR-15 rifle do ? No,it doesn t ,but it does have the Best trigger out of any Bullpup rifles in the World. Superfine trigger in winter or under high stress,with gloves on your hands when all hell is broke loose .... I would choose less perfect and more controlable trigger. War is not shooting range picnic under perfect conditions,and VHS is constructed and buildt for War. Not for showing of. From my stand of point,only minus of VHS-2 and Hellion is that it doesn t have 7,62x39 , 6,5 Grendel and 308 Win models,and 20" barrel. Everything else is 👍 Best regards from Croatia !
The auto parts stores sell these small cans of de-ice spray for locks. Wonder how well that would work on guns and if it would be worthwhile keeping it in a winter kit
It's just methanol, you can buy gallon cans for dirt cheap and fill the bottle of your choice for WAY less money than buying those cans. Also, aerosol cans don't work well in freezing conditions, a squeeze bottle is best.
Or you could just "pee" on your rifle and de-ice too. This way you don't have to carry more stuff in your kit. Or have the added weight. I'm being serious too. Your pee is coming out at 98 degrees.
I love the way you guys involve everyone in the videos, its so relaxed and enjoyable to watch. Traditional media has got the formula all fucked up, this format is so much better. Great video mate.
Well if you remember the story of the Marine who was at the Chosin Reservior and slept with his M1 under his coat, the other Marines laughed at him until they were attacked by the Chinese and his rifle was the only one that worked.
Interesting story, I recall reading that some Marines had to urinate on the M1s action to unfreeze them. Makes sense after seeing this video. Makes me wonder if the water had been warmer if it would have helped a lot.
The SIG 553 has a gas valve at the front that can be turned. It gives additional power to the reload mechanism for frozen or dirty conditions. The Valve can be turned with a big knife/bayonet. And all this mag problems with the other weapons, the SIG 553 has plastic mags to prevent freezing to the gun, also the release mechanism is optimized for such conditions. Greetings from Switzerland.
KNS (in the US) made an oversized safety thumb selector for the 550 series. I had one on a 551, and if I was in freezing conditions, or knew that it is going to freeze, or even rain, I would have already turned the gas setting to "dirty". The only negative is the "Swiss clock hammer spring", and trigger assembly. I prefer the modern AR drop in assembly ! Many drop-in assemblies will prevent a blown (dislodged) primer from jamming up the rearward travel of the hammer, or from lodging under the trigger assembly. I run a CMC drop in now, with strike industries non rotating trigger pins (no tool disassembly required). It has performed flawlessly and is very practical. If the two above could go into a STG90 ! ! ! Ideal. I had no issues or problems with the plastic magazines. Both the AR and the SIG intended the magazines to be DISPOSABLE, use them for one tour of combat, or 4 years training, then throw them away. Preventative maintenance.
After watching MAC's tour of their facility I'm a definite fan of PSA now. They don't cut corners, and yet still put out reasonably priced pieces that perform.
Wouldn't expect to see much of a difference. The big differences between cheap and expensive AK's seems to be more about steel grade and machining costs rather than parts dimensions or finish
Been using the HK G3 for 10 years in the army, I had higher hopes! Still, it's a hell of a gun, has never let me down, thanks for making these kinda videos! Keep it up, man!
The biggest problem we had when I was in the Norwegian army was snow in the muzzle. If that freezes and you shoot, shit could go very wrong. We use HK 416, i have never had any problems with it, even in -35°C. You just have to be careful about moisture (not bringing your rifle in a tent hot enough to melt the snow to water), and brushing your rifle to remove snow and ice
100% spot on. Military bases all over the world in sub-freezing temperatures, and they have no problems with guns. The real issue is moisture and barrel obstructions, not your gun getting "too cold." Additionally, this is more of a meme than a torture test. No one, literally no one is going to dunk their rifle in water and then leave it out to freeze. Even more: try and shoot it without cleaning it beforehand if it was left outdoors in these kinds of conditions.
Love these tests, as someone who lives in Wisconsin--where it's currently 25 and somehow only gonna get colder throughout the day--this is extremely relevant.
I love the insane amount of trash talk about the Springfield hellion and how well it performed. Remember its pretty much the VHS-2 and springfield didnt make it.
I got a Springfield Saint Victor like 3 years ago as my first AR, it was like 1300 bucks but I've already got 2k+ rounds through it and the only "problem" I've had was a crushed rubber washer beneath the extractor spring. The XD series pistols are mostly trash but the whole company in general gets more shit than it probably deserves
I wish I was in on the setup for this video. I would have suggested you could use one sport bottle of warm water to simulate pissing on it to get the rifle up and running.
@Hulk Hogan dancing isrealis Lavon affair, operation Northwoods..... Europa the last battle is a must watch for anyone who isn't a scared little communist f@660+ ......
Hellion is a derivative of VHS2. The VHS2, like every other weapon manufactured by HS-Produkt, has been treated in: dust, sand, salt bath, clay mixed with water, freezing, high temperature and a drop from 6.5ft, with and without a bullet in the chamber. The tolerance between the moving elements offers the compactibility of exchanging parts. Regardless of all the gripes of the trigger lever, it is a reliable rifle that does not need a hammer support.🙂
I bought a Hellion 3 months ago and have been impressed with the workmanship and function. In addition to a firing pin spring the Hellion also has a spring loaded firing pin block safety that prevents the firing pin from moving forward until the hammer pushes the block safety out of the way. Basically two safety's to prevent slam fires. This maybe the reason the trigger pull is about 7.5 pounds, that is needed to overcome the heavy trigger spring. So what is this “hammer support” that you are talking about? Also, I wish HS Produkt would have applied a anti-rust coating to the bolt.
@@retirednobaddays456 Hammer support as in the gun didn't need to be hammered like a lot of others in order to function. Because you know, it was frozen.....
I’m in the finnish army and this test is actually pretty realistic. You’re outside and your gun gets snowy, you go in a tent and the snow melts all over the gun and you get back outside and the water freezes freezing the gun.
You don’t even need the snow. Condensation will form on every surface when you go into the tent. In Alaska we leave the weapons outside during exercises.
I live up North in the U.S, this is a realistic scenario. The one that came to my mind is sometimes when it snows here, the temperature is still above freezing, so the snow is 'wet snow'/slushy mix...but later in the night it will drop below freezing, potentially freezing any wetted equipment.
@@509Gman idk man if I was a soldier I don't think I want to leave my gun outside. That sounds like a bad habit. You need your gun and suddenly they're gone and that's right when you get shot and die
The vhs2 better but the idiot closed both ejection ports! It is no dust cover! No need, AK no need for dust core too. Only AR and similar crap needs. All othe failed us production. 🤣🤣🤣
As a Hawaiian who has no idea what snow looks, feels, or tastes like, I'm just going to take my firearms to an industrial food freezer and replicate these tests to the best of my ability.
@@Token_Black_Guy Yes, guns are easy to get here despite the tyrannical registration. Suppressors and shit though...that's harder than scoring an Asian girl with natural JJ cup juggies out here.
Well apparently the Croatians know how to build a rifle that worksish in freezing conditions...Springfield just jacked up the price and put their stamp on it. Hollar back when they build something original rifle wise that works. I bet if they made an ak they'd put grip zone on the grip and say it's an all new design.
@Hulk Hogan There *_WERE NO_* female Sailors killed on 08JUN1967 aboard the USS Liberty, how about you *_LEARN_* about what you want to be ever so sanctimonious about?
As a Canadian, the x95 is one of the last reliable black rifles available to us. Thanks for featuring it in this test. Maybe a review video is in order?
I got a X95 a few months ago so far i love it. I live in WA and its a constant battle for our basic human right to own weapons no matter their characteristics. Never back down.
Love how the hellion being completely shit on was the first one to run flawless if it wasn't for the dust cover being stuck it probably would have eject that round too lmao
For the sig 553, there's a little piece in front, upper the cannon called the "buse". In case of great frost this piece is made for turn a little and release à bigger hole in the gas tube. So you can shoot 1 shot per 1 shot but without loading failure. From a Swiss military.
Seeing the VHS-2 working almost perfect makes my day~ 😙 I mean come on ~ It’s a beautiful rifle! Please don’t hate it just because the damn Springfield give it a terrible name in US.
Springfield just sucks. They sell an imported rifle they gave a dumb name to, a pistol that is pretty good but again they don't make it, 1911s which Colt brought to market a hundred years ago, and they sell an M1A which was the worst cold war rifle and they don't even use forged receivers like Fulton does.
I think its disrespecgtful to be so sceptical about hellion. I dont know how many people are familliar that Hellion is in fact Croatian rifle ( HS Protukt VHS-2) what stands for "multifunctional croatian machinegun" that is used by croatian army and special forces. It was used for years in its first iterration (VHS1) wich has some minor flaws but in second itteration they are all fixed. Of corse it is not perfect but is combat proven in afganistan and other NATO mission that Croatia partricipated and it showh as very very reliable. The Hellion has nothing to do with SA its only imported by SA and its completely produced in Croatia. When France was choosing a new rifle for its army in 2017, the VHS 2 finished 2nd in the competition, just behind the German HK416 F. Some sources state that it was even better than the HK416 F, but it was minor, so they chose germany rifle due to political reasons.
@@BabyMachine it better be, it's an AR15. Everyone and their brother makes those. I'll give Springfield the credit of actively selling a 16" midlength with a FSB. Some people dont like those, but it's really the proper civilian M4 because 16" carbines have always been kinda terrible.
This is actually quite educational watching how to safely deal with malfunctions. Hey GT - what about a video on "winterizing your rifle? what can you do to help it perform in the cold? Like what if you ever find yourself as part of the rebel forces on planet Hoth?? your equipment has to work. For example would you ever use diesel vs regular gun lube? can you wrap certain parts of the rifle to prevent snow from getting in? etc.
@@borkwoof696 ambient temperature..-10 to -30 C up in the mountains....I don't think you can keep more than a pistol under the jacket ....rifles...no way
@@andreivo6581 that's why you leave them outside. Biggest danger is ice getting on your rifle. Then you take it inside to where the ice melts and gets inside it. Then when you're back outside the water freezes inside the firearm and you get these sort of problems
I'm with you; I was pleasantly surprised as well. I didn't really like it when we had one at my LGS, but nice to confirm the Croatians make solid guns.
Glad you guys did the PTR-91. Pretty much exactly what I thought would happen, but it's good to see the test done! Also it's even more hilarious to watch the brass at night fly out down range and disappear into the dark.
@@AverageBritishNerd1138 VHS 2 is tested to -50 degrees Celsius to meet the standards of our military so no suprise it performed very well...greetings from Croatia
Considering the Hellion aka the VHS-2 was designed and made by HS Produkt for use by the Croatian military and they experience cold wet winters at a similar temperature it passing was not a surprise.
That was really awesome, especially the setup in the dark with only one lightsource from the side. It had something of a gameshow where somebody has to do a challenge outside the studio, including the low key suspense music. Loved it. I have a lot of fun watching you guys do "science" and goof around a bit, but its also really good to see the INSTANT change of behavior when things get suspicious and how super serious Mike gets all of a sudden when safety issues occur. Imo this seperates this channel from many others where people just do silly stuff completely carefree.
Dude... This was tense hahah love the videos brother and the genuine happiness on your face when a rifle works is just priceless like a kid in a candy store
Oh snap, I own a VHS-2 as my first 5.56 gun after growing up my whole life with AK's and FAL's. It's been a great gun for me and because of that I thought I'd crash and burn in the test...Glad I'm still proud of it! I also laughed out loud when the G3 sent it's brass into dark space, never to be seen by brass ghouls ever again 😂
VHS-2 was made to replace AK and it had to perform better as to be accepted as military standard for Croatian army. It went through some really brutal testing (ice, salt water, sand, etc.) since we have all kinds of weather here (from freezing winters to boiling summers) so it wasn't actually surprise for me. Greetings from Croatia.
Glad to see that VHS-2 (Helion) is performing up to spec, if the extraction port was open, i think there would be 0 failure and would shoot smooth as that AK-105, however, I am glad that the AK won :D
Ice tests are a standard for US Milspec firearms. The M14/M1A and the M1 Garand were designed to "kick clear" jams in sandy, muddy or icy conditions. A fact about the M14 is it did better in the cold weather tests than the FN FAL. Additionally, in winter warfare you keep you arms outside the tent and not inside w/you. The problem of freezing can occur when a warm firearm is taken into the cold and the condensation freezes the firearms action. A sidearm or shotgun would be inside the tent, in case your camp is attacked. Good video and stay safe.
AK105 is King. Even the Springfield hellion did really good I was hoping for the G3 308 to do good easy to take it off safety and at least a busted one shot
Все как обычно, дедушка АК на высоте. Подвел только магазин. А так отработал штатно. И создан был так что собрать/разобрать его может даже ребёнок, простота и надежность!
"How cold is it?"
"I want to go home."
Everyone felt that
Garand Thumb’s transition from military to informative meme lord is a legendary one
he's non binary
Yes, but what pronouns does he use?
@@M--GT8223 "daddy"
@@M--GT8223 pee/poo
@@M--GT8223 Garand/thumb
I love that he's testing weapons worth more than my student loans in temperatures higher than my IQ.
😂😂lol
LOL!!!
University of Phoenix doesn't charge that much
Hahaha...!!!
I too am a man of sillyness
“The only difference between messing around and doing science is writing it down”
-Adam Savage
“The only difference between messing around and doing science is writing it down”. Unless your name is Tony Fauci: then YOU are Science!
Love to see this with bolt actions/pump actions/lever actions
@@hdhdiditiggifolfifkf9604 he did it with a lever action in this vid
@@roadapple66 robert kennedy who just beat all the big phrama in court came out and said fauci nih outsourced bioweapons resaearch aka c19 to ukraine to avoid the death penalty
lol that is a great quote
I love the dichotomy of Mike saying "please don't get mad" immediately followed by both Micah and Charlie saying something to upset as many people as possible
they are here to start arguments
@@GarandThumb kinda based in a weird way
@@GarandThumb no they're not!
@@GarandThumb can you do mud test with popular game guns like mp5, p90, beretta 92f, 1911, glock 18, remington 700, winchester 70
Who is Mike there are only Micah, charlie, and flannel daddy/garandthumb 🤣🤣🤣
Charlie was so grossly offendeded by that "You said it right" that he messed up the primary arms line out of spite
I’m disappointed Charlie didn’t try to lick a single rifle
The Charlie factor in these videos can not be overstated.
the 70's safety glasses as well
@@kruppstahl9562 You say 70s, but the USMC didnt phase out the BCGs until 2012.....
@Hulk Hogan never forget all the people died by the pentagon program NIH funded bioweapon research
Springfield Hellion's greatest strength is that it was not designed by Springfield
Ignorant statement. Springfield makes comparable quality products to Glock and SIG and thats why they're still one of the best sold and rated firearms👌 🇺🇸
@@fight4ourright306 you mean like there whole line of polymer pistols and this vhs they ship in from overseas
Edit maybe they don't ship them I could be mistaken they may have they rights to produce them here. Either way they didn't define them.
@@fight4ourright306 oh lord here come the redditors
"The Springfield Armory Hellion, much like their Hellcat pistols, is an imported firearm made by a Croatian manufacturer, HS Produkt. “Hellion” is the American name for the HS Produkt VHS-2 rifle."
@@fight4ourright306 that’s funny
I build those AK 105's at PSA. Super proud to see it!
How much ?
Калашников навсегда!
Very nice.
Dustin have the issues with the 105 been dealt with? I've been thinking about grabbing one. I know Palmetto is very busy with other projects, I'm hoping the 105 hasn't been forgotten like the MP5 clone
@@bobjim1us1 what issues are you having?
Coming from someone who served in the Estonian army with a Galil during a winter with an average of -10c: we all had the occasional malfunction, but generally it ran quite well. The most important part was putting on a little less oil than during the warmer months so it didn't clog as it froze.
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Well, it's based on the Valmet, so that's kinda what you would expect
Same goes for the G3
And to be fair there's a difference between a gun being cold and pouring water directly into a gun and letting it freeze solid. But snow is a bitch to guns, I managed ti make my AR fail after throwing it in dust cover open side down
How about when you poured an 20 oz watter bottle across it in freeing temps?
“I’m so excited because either way people are gonna be pissed”
That line sums up the existence of Palmetto State Armory.
Lol seriously.. and my favorite things they have are the ak chambered in 5.56 and the ar in 7.62x39. I thought about buying them both just for shits and giggles but i'll probably end up with their AK-V (9mm)
@@CaffeineFreak13 bro, not only do they have an AK chambered in 5.56, they have one with a STANAG mag well.
@@CaffeineFreak13 Used to have an AKV with an ALG trigger. Definitely recommend. That thing was so much fun. People can say what they want about Palmetto, but they seem to be improving and I'll be damned if they don't put out several new clones / versions on the AK market. Their spiker clone is on my list now.
@@BarnChicken I have that AKV now, it's wonderful.
@@brian-8814 Does it have a Bolt Hold Open and Release?
Gotta love Charlie’s statement “back-blast area clear” after Mike picks up the first rifle, then turns around and plugs his ears thru his Comtacs. Charlie is a legend.
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Charlie off to the side by himself complaining about carrying heavy mags made me laugh out loud
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@18s sometimes he annoys the crap out of me but some episodes he is funny. Just feels like he's trying too hard sometimes.
Flannel Daddy: "Please don't be mad. This is a ridiculous test; it's fun!"
AK Guys: "Yes."
AK guys: ruclips.net/video/QiFBgtgUtfw/видео.html
Lol yep
I don't get what you mean...
@@ismellmandude6401 competitions without a choice of a winner, where everyone does well, no matter how hard they perform =)
The stubborn refusal to use the forward assist is my favorite bit of this video.
fuck the fa
Unless you really enjoy smashing your palm into a frozen FA, I fail to see how that would actually help.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus It'll move the BCG up the receiver and hopefully put it a round in batter. FA also can help with a stubborn magazine.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus they had a hammer...
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When I went through Parris Island we had some Korean War Marines come and talk to us. They said that in Chosin if you had to piss you waited for an attack because you needed that piss to free the bolt up on your rifle. Respect.
In the Swedish army they told us to shit and piss when preparing to fight since getting hit in a full bladder will be worse than getting hit in an empty one.
@@antonw-uw4ov That's hardcore. It makes sense, though.
@@Borderline5440 I remember as a teen my dad told me about the same thing about driving. Less hardcore but still makes sense.
@@Borderline5440 Also you don't want your body to keep shit and piss warm. So piss and shit any chance you get
@@antonw-uw4ov It actually makes a lot of sense. Also makes it far less likely that you will go septic. If you literally are full of $h!+ and get hit in the stomach, all that waste could kill you super quick. I bet having an empty stomach might actually "help", since it would basically just be stomach acid, which maybe could antiseptize things?
My favorite part is Charlie telling Mike to use the forward assist for three full minutes on the sig.
Get out of here
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Use the forward assist
@@Fullyautomagic the only appropriate response
Forward assist is so stupid. lol
@@arnox4554 you will be surprised how good they are
I love how every time the Hellion performed well on any part, it looked like he was having a mid-life crisis. Bro did not want that hellion to win
Ar15 coper
@@CAL1MBO ?
@@CAL1MBO ?
The fact that Mike didnt react to Charlie saying "its not really getting in there as much as i would like" shows how serious he was worried about the hangfire.
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I've only ever shot steelcase for that reason. There's no reloading the brass that gets ripped out of there. I've seen pictures of cases ripped in half lmao.
Ahaha I was hoping for the “that’s what she said” too
@@BIOHAZARDCURE that makes no fuckin sense lol...
@@DabNaggit Where in my train of thought did you get lost? Why pay for brass that's going to get destroyed?
The m1 garand freezing really makes you think about the conditions in the chosin reservoir where it was colder in worse conditions
Mosin Nagant M-44 with Gasoline and Motor Oil masterpiece. 💥
Well they also didn't drench their rifles in water
@@J-Kabar because even their water was frozen..lol
@Your JOEtivation true but it was also snowing and they were dug into snow which I would assume allow moisture to get in and in a temperature where it's going to freeze quicker
Only way for the Chosin few to escape to saftey was Canadian Machine Gunners on Amphetamines with Millions of bullets and no sleep for days and days.
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Charlie is the chaotic goodness I needed in my life after I lost my best friend. He’s not dead or anything, he just has a kid and no longer has time for shenanigans.
As a married but childless middle age adult I totally get this. The sad thing is it continues on and on and on. A huge chunk of your friends (even the ones that profess to hating kids) will have children when they get married. And if they didn't forget you existed when they first got married they most definitely will the second they have kids.
I think its because as a married yet happy childless couple we are living proof that they didn't actually *have* to procreate after getting married and everytime we mention sleeping in on weekends, planning vacations around what we want to do or having extra money for ourselves its like salt being rubbed in the wound. Lol
Two of my best friends are around the same age as me and both are married and both are kidless and intend to stay that way and both couples describe the exact same treatment from their (previous) friends who now have kids. They stop calling, stop visiting, and eventually just go totally radio silent and a quick look at their Facebook pages shows their new life of indebted servitude. ;)
@@bp968I never want kids. People have slated me for it but idc. I can't think of anything worse than losing all my free time, money, wiping up piss shit and vomit up, losing sleep etc. I'll stick with my parrot haha
Left you and your pepe loving ass in the dust lol!
@@domenik8339 It’s just a meme, what’s so dang bad about it?
Eta- never mind. Didn’t know it had far right extremist meaning. Literally just liked the picture because it was a frog doing that scene from once upon a time in Hollywood.
@@1bigboi_629 that’s why I like being a uncle. I can hand back my siblings kids at the end of the day. My oldest nephew is 6 and he is an absolute blast to be around.
As someone planning to build an ak105 probably in all zenitco this makes me very happy to see they are still very reliable
The one thing I’ve learned from these videos, if anything, is if you do have a frozen rifle, and the safety and trigger will move and you do manage to get a first round off, you’d better make damn sure that shot counts. Cause the chances of getting a full cycle seems quite thin.
As a Minnesotan, the freezing guns tests you do is invaluable to my shopping list
This is why I run AKs! Minneapolis myself, let's do weird range things
The cz bren2 test would have passed the test perfectly, the button does not freeze and it is easy to return it to the built-in. this is verified even in MAC bren2, neither the button nor the mechanism is frozen, and the reset button did not even have a hint of priming. cz bren2 is simply the best weapon hello from ukraine i am a military man and dealt with bren2 he is ideal.
@@skydivemurr The cz bren2 test would have passed the test perfectly, the button does not freeze and it is easy to return it to the built-in. this is verified even in MAC bren2, neither the button nor the mechanism is frozen, and the reset button did not even have a hint of priming. cz bren2 is simply the best weapon hello from ukraine i am a military man and dealt with bren2 he is ideal.
@luminous don't doubt it, I just prefer AKs. 104urs are 🤌
Love to see fellow Minnesotans on this channel
I love how the VHS-2 will singlehandedly revive Springfields reputation. Even though springfield doesnt even produce these weapons, some will associate it with springfield because they renamed it for their own gain.
I mean, not just their own if it's actually a good gun, which it seems to be
HS saved Springfield 😁
Do 16" barrels turn into 14.5" barrels in the cold? Losing an inch and a half in freezing temps is normal.
completely understandable tbh
All I hear is your girlfriend saying, "It's a button."
*"I was in the pool!"*
@@GarandThumb can you do mud test again there is no snow in my country
Lol really?:):)
Can we all just pause for a moment and appreciate how great this line is? "I didn't see, I had the hammer"? 😆
I went to the comments to see if anyone else picked up on that lmao
I learned a valuable lesson watching this video. Try not to let you rifle freeze up completely.
How about the:
GT: "you think this is good for it?".
Charlie: "I didn't buy it"
Charlie is a national treasure
I love how he literally did everything but push the forward assist on the SPEAR.
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I was wondering lol. Couldnt remember if it had an assist. A lot of new ones don’t
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Charlie even told him to do that😂
Yeah, frozen forward assists will do that.
bro the Springfield Hellion just gained my respect
The internet demands an end-of-year B-roll mashup of everything Charlie.
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Seconded. All in favor say aye.
Aye
I second this
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Charlie is slowly becoming my favorite character on the show. He looked so excited to use that hammer
"Hammer time?🤓"
I liked how he had 3 radios in one pouch
The snow has an effect on him, it's like a person on heavy antidepressants
@@Sommyie was certainly suppressed in this video, maybe he's sad about the rake.
Haha. Do you think he's ready for Paul Pelosi?
It’s just always blown my mind how a gun designed with below 0 weather in mind somehow always wins these competitions!
I love how he's trying all these modern rifles, and just casually goes like "Alright up next is the M1 Garand"
the garand transcends time, it is as modern as it was in WWII, and as antique as it was in the middle ages.
“I’m excited. Either way people are going to be pissed”
I live my life by that concept! 😂
I love the freeze and mud tests. Not for the tests themselves but for the incoherent arguments it causes for weeks afterwards 😂👍
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10:18 Did you see the Tavor fail?
Pretty much shows how tight tolerances are in the parts
The arguments! Reddit will be imploding from this one lol
Charlie is like the little brother who gets to go everywhere with big brother and friends, dude kills me.
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He’s awesome, I love his glasses
To be fair, if they had pried the dust covers open manually, the Hellion would have had 0 issues total. Technically speaking, both the 105 and the Hellion only had 1 issue each. Stuck dust cover and frozen mag.
Yet they pretend water getting in to the mag and freezing isn't an issue unlike the dust cover being frozen closed.
I rewatched it's issue was the failure to extract, it was still in the chamber.
I was fortunate enough to know a gentleman several years ago that fought in the Battle of The Bulge. Me being the gun enthusiast I am I had to ask him how their M-1’s faired in the cold weather, he said when they woke in the morning they all peed on the actions of their rifles to unfreeze them. He swore by the M-1 Garand
So the dad advice at the end was pretty much true. "Don't piss in the wind...piss on your rifle"
Well, I'm sure I'll think about this fond memory next time classic firearms tries to sell me old military surplus
Grandpas brother fought there. Men were built different
My father was in Germany during WW2 and I've heard stories about the war, cold freezing rain and snow while hiding in a foxhole at dawn for instance, and they did the same... They were definitely a different group back then...
That reminds me of a documentary I watched years ago where one of the guys talked about having waves of Germans coming at them. He was the gunner on an M2 and, since they were going cyclical on the krauts, the barrel got red-hot. His A-gunner stood up in the middle of a massive firefight and pissed on the barrel of the M2. The guy said, "I still don't know how he was able to squeeze it out under that much enemy fire, but he did and it worked!" 🤣
Garand's face while Charlie was hammering the bar was priceless
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What I learned was to always have my Combat Hammer with me in the snow, unless I have an AK
Ak also doubles as combat hammer.
@@talontd3727 the ak is superior to the ar platform and always has
@@frankrenda2519 agreed.
@@frankrenda2519 Well, not for accuracy, but the AK was designed to be an oversized SMG and no one needed to bother thinking about hitting anything past 300 yards back then. Modern U.S. made AKs can meet or exceed ARs for accuracy, though, depending on which ones you're comparing.
@@dredlord47 modern AK-74s can be just as accurate as an AR you are correct about that, 762x39 is heavy so it drops really fast which is bad for accuracy in Old AKs but a light more modern round like 5.45x39 is very accurate, 5.45 is basically Russian 5.56 it was literally made as a response to the 5.56 performance and market. For the modern AK accuracy isn't a problem.
I love watching your videos,because beside you are a expirienced Army man,you do have sence of humor and positive energy.
Thank you for that. 👍
But in this video ...from the begining ....your scepticism toward Croatian Hellion imported by Springfield ...
I would say,whose under your level of a professional.
I understand,you have negative stand toward Springfield as Company because they said something wrong.
But to blamish and laugh at HS Product rifle ...after all the expiriences with their XD - XDM - XD Mod 2 - XDS - Hellcat - usage of VHS rifles in Afganistan,Iraq,Croatia,Kosovo ..under real working conditions ...
Don t forget that Croats fought Homeland War mostly with Yugoslav version of AK-47 , H&K G-3 and FAL.
War on Balkan area in winter ...it is something you would remember for life.
Reliability,endurance,ease of maintenance ...all are aspects which where on the table when VHS-2 whose buildt.
Does it have a trigger as Custom AR-15 rifle do ?
No,it doesn t ,but it does have the Best trigger out of any Bullpup rifles in the World.
Superfine trigger in winter or under high stress,with gloves on your hands when all hell is broke loose ....
I would choose less perfect and more controlable trigger.
War is not shooting range picnic under perfect conditions,and VHS is constructed and buildt for War.
Not for showing of.
From my stand of point,only minus of VHS-2 and Hellion is that it doesn t have 7,62x39 , 6,5 Grendel and 308 Win models,and 20" barrel.
Everything else is 👍
Best regards from Croatia !
The auto parts stores sell these small cans of de-ice spray for locks. Wonder how well that would work on guns and if it would be worthwhile keeping it in a winter kit
It's just methanol, you can buy gallon cans for dirt cheap and fill the bottle of your choice for WAY less money than buying those cans. Also, aerosol cans don't work well in freezing conditions, a squeeze bottle is best.
methanol is flammable just fyi but if youre cold thats a win win
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 redneck methanol injection coming up. Thanks for the info
Squeeze bottle of 99% rubbing alcohol, ethanol or isopropyl are both fine. Done.
Or you could just "pee" on your rifle and de-ice too. This way you don't have to carry more stuff in your kit. Or have the added weight. I'm being serious too. Your pee is coming out at 98 degrees.
I adore the fact that these tests are take no prisoners, brutal and awesome.
I love the way you guys involve everyone in the videos, its so relaxed and enjoyable to watch. Traditional media has got the formula all fucked up, this format is so much better. Great video mate.
Every good show is like that think about old stern, O&a let everybody talk
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Why was the Helion getting laughed at? That’s a quality go to war rifle
Well if you remember the story of the Marine who was at the Chosin Reservior and slept with his M1 under his coat, the other Marines laughed at him until they were attacked by the Chinese and his rifle was the only one that worked.
99% chance that’s made up
@@RosaParksWasWytlowkey this is actually really likely, apparently lots of hand to hand combat occurred during the battle
They also ran them dry, the oil would gum up at those temps.
Interesting story, I recall reading that some Marines had to urinate on the M1s action to unfreeze them. Makes sense after seeing this video. Makes me wonder if the water had been warmer if it would have helped a lot.
@@vsteel the oil would freeze ?
The SIG 553 has a gas valve at the front that can be turned. It gives additional power to the reload mechanism for frozen or dirty conditions. The Valve can be turned with a big knife/bayonet. And all this mag problems with the other weapons, the SIG 553 has plastic mags to prevent freezing to the gun, also the release mechanism is optimized for such conditions. Greetings from Switzerland.
the SWISS are the only real runner's up to the USA as far as Gun Ownership,
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KNS (in the US) made an oversized safety thumb selector for the 550 series. I had one on a 551, and if I was in freezing conditions, or knew that it is going to freeze, or even rain, I would have already turned the gas setting to "dirty".
The only negative is the "Swiss clock hammer spring", and trigger assembly. I prefer the modern AR drop in assembly ! Many drop-in assemblies will prevent a blown (dislodged) primer from jamming up the rearward travel of the hammer, or from lodging under the trigger assembly. I run a CMC drop in now, with strike industries non rotating trigger pins (no tool disassembly required). It has performed flawlessly and is very practical. If the two above could go into a STG90 ! ! ! Ideal.
I had no issues or problems with the plastic magazines. Both the AR and the SIG intended the magazines to be DISPOSABLE, use them for one tour of combat, or 4 years training, then throw them away. Preventative maintenance.
hahahaha, greetings from russia
i laughed out loud when charlie asked how many replacement parts the guys cleaning the guns had
@hulkhogan5256 cant have liberty without a little Lavon affair on the side;)
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We want to see more testing with affordable stuff like Palmetto!
After watching MAC's tour of their facility I'm a definite fan of PSA now. They don't cut corners, and yet still put out reasonably priced pieces that perform.
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But that makes sense and the gun community is quite the opposite of anything that makes sense
Wouldn't expect to see much of a difference. The big differences between cheap and expensive AK's seems to be more about steel grade and machining costs rather than parts dimensions or finish
Gross poor people
Been using the HK G3 for 10 years in the army, I had higher hopes! Still, it's a hell of a gun, has never let me down, thanks for making these kinda videos! Keep it up, man!
Impressive test, the Hellion & AK-105 were indeed "solid performers" in the cold.
ya think an ak works in the cold?
@Mark Lasco actually rust, ice, rain, sand. Will malfunction in mud but very quick and easy to clear mud out
Lol the AK105 lost to the Betamax
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It's no surprise since both guns are designed in cold places (Croatia ad Russia respectively)
The biggest problem we had when I was in the Norwegian army was snow in the muzzle. If that freezes and you shoot, shit could go very wrong.
We use HK 416, i have never had any problems with it, even in -35°C. You just have to be careful about moisture (not bringing your rifle in a tent hot enough to melt the snow to water), and brushing your rifle to remove snow and ice
wrap a piece of tape over the top of the muzzle helps keep snow/ice out and you can shoot through it if it comes down to it.
@@michaellind3653 We had small plastic muzzle caps, but for some reason nobody used them
Thank you for the tip! What was your lubrication process? And what was your lubricant of choice?
100% spot on. Military bases all over the world in sub-freezing temperatures, and they have no problems with guns. The real issue is moisture and barrel obstructions, not your gun getting "too cold."
Additionally, this is more of a meme than a torture test. No one, literally no one is going to dunk their rifle in water and then leave it out to freeze. Even more: try and shoot it without cleaning it beforehand if it was left outdoors in these kinds of conditions.
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This video really does show that any weapon can be a crew served weapon if you try hard enough
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Don’t forget the Helion isn’t from Springfield. It’s from HS Produkt in Croatia
Love these tests, as someone who lives in Wisconsin--where it's currently 25 and somehow only gonna get colder throughout the day--this is extremely relevant.
Dude it's -11 here in Eau Claire. Things are down right frigid right now.
@Jash Roy -10 with a "feels like" of -30 across the river in MN right now. Hoping the car starts when I need it.
@@militantfascade9176 My car barely started last night. So fingers crossed this morning.
Keeping moisture away from any firearms will help prevent the formation of ice.
I'm near St. Louis and it's -5° right now... 😬
I love the insane amount of trash talk about the Springfield hellion and how well it performed. Remember its pretty much the VHS-2 and springfield didnt make it.
how much did you get washed for on vhs 2?
I got a Springfield Saint Victor like 3 years ago as my first AR, it was like 1300 bucks but I've already got 2k+ rounds through it and the only "problem" I've had was a crushed rubber washer beneath the extractor spring. The XD series pistols are mostly trash but the whole company in general gets more shit than it probably deserves
I wish I was in on the setup for this video. I would have suggested you could use one sport bottle of warm water to simulate pissing on it to get the rifle up and running.
Annnnd it stull sucks.
Its a great gun designed for lankey croatian gentleman
"Bloopers available Patreon", where Charlie becomes the most articulate host you have ever seen.
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Lavon affair, operation Northwoods.....
Europa the last battle is a must watch for anyone who isn't a scared little communist f@660+ ......
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I've always loved Springfield and was voting for the hellion just out of spite. Seeing it pull through was great
The dumbo closed both ejection ports at that vhs2. Those are not dust covers.
What hillarious Guys.
Hellion is a derivative of VHS2. The VHS2, like every other weapon manufactured by HS-Produkt, has been treated in: dust, sand, salt bath, clay mixed with water, freezing, high temperature and a drop from 6.5ft, with and without a bullet in the chamber. The tolerance between the moving elements offers the compactibility of exchanging parts. Regardless of all the gripes of the trigger lever, it is a reliable rifle that does not need a hammer support.🙂
I bought a Hellion 3 months ago and have been impressed with the workmanship and function. In addition to a firing pin spring the Hellion also has a spring loaded firing pin block safety that prevents the firing pin from moving forward until the hammer pushes the block safety out of the way. Basically two safety's to prevent slam fires. This maybe the reason the trigger pull is about 7.5 pounds, that is needed to overcome the heavy trigger spring. So what is this “hammer support” that you are talking about? Also, I wish HS Produkt would have applied a anti-rust coating to the bolt.
@@retirednobaddays456 Hammer support as in the gun didn't need to be hammered like a lot of others in order to function. Because you know, it was frozen.....
I’m in the finnish army and this test is actually pretty realistic. You’re outside and your gun gets snowy, you go in a tent and the snow melts all over the gun and you get back outside and the water freezes freezing the gun.
You don’t even need the snow. Condensation will form on every surface when you go into the tent. In Alaska we leave the weapons outside during exercises.
I live up North in the U.S, this is a realistic scenario. The one that came to my mind is sometimes when it snows here, the temperature is still above freezing, so the snow is 'wet snow'/slushy mix...but later in the night it will drop below freezing, potentially freezing any wetted equipment.
@@KW-cm5sg It's always annoying when it's hovering around freezing. Can't trust the roads or your weapon.
@@509Gman idk man if I was a soldier I don't think I want to leave my gun outside. That sounds like a bad habit. You need your gun and suddenly they're gone and that's right when you get shot and die
Do yall not bring your rifles in tent kiss it good night or make love to it? US troops do and thats why they work for us so well
I love how Charlie is just always ready to hit something with a hammer whether it needs it or not
He kept showing off the mystery mousekatool
I don't get why are they surprised that the Hellion worked. The VHS-2 was tested extensively in the sub zero temperature.
Its not vhs2 that's the problem, its Springfield
@@robynotyourbusiness Springfield doesn't make or design the gun, they are just an importer essentially.
@@kobruh229 someone doesn't understand sarcasm
@@robynotyourbusinesswhere is the sarcasm
@croatiaboy11 everyone hates on Springfield armory
I mean the AK was literally designed to operate in these conditions. Entertained the whole time !
@@ИмяФамилия-ц6д true but it stands out in article warfare more then others imo
So why did the G3 exactly fail? I mean there is a 9mm G3 (the mp5) which is famous for its reliability in all conditions, even if it's freezed
The vhs2 better but the idiot closed both ejection ports!
It is no dust cover! No need, AK no need for dust core too. Only AR and similar crap needs.
All othe failed us production. 🤣🤣🤣
@@NickSap. Maybe it's the way they poured the water, or the inclination of the weapon on the bench.
Not all aks designed to operate in these condetion whe have more of 100 hundert ak designs for all 4seasons
As a Hawaiian who has no idea what snow looks, feels, or tastes like, I'm just going to take my firearms to an industrial food freezer and replicate these tests to the best of my ability.
U got guns in Hawaii?
@@Token_Black_Guy Yes, guns are easy to get here despite the tyrannical registration. Suppressors and shit though...that's harder than scoring an Asian girl with natural JJ cup juggies out here.
Don’t take that for granted. Snow sucks unless you want to play in it.
Go to the top of Mauna Kea in February, it snows up there.
Eyyy Hawaii gang represent
We have the leveled-up version of the mud test with the red dirt tho
I don't know...that Helion did a wonderful job. Definitely performed better than you thought and it seems like it should be the top contender.
Yeah they were coping hard and didn't want to admit it. I love mine.
VHS 2
Hellion is a best
Well apparently the Croatians know how to build a rifle that worksish in freezing conditions...Springfield just jacked up the price and put their stamp on it. Hollar back when they build something original rifle wise that works. I bet if they made an ak they'd put grip zone on the grip and say it's an all new design.
Almost like it was designed as a military rifle for a country that knows cold environments..
The AKs will never fail you in the winter combat situation. Believe that!
I really enjoy the G3's shell casings getting launched into the next universe at about 4:03
You should see my FAL on the lowest gas setting
@@jaberie308 I would love to
They're just secondary projectiles.
I noticed the same thing hahaha
What my PTR does to brass is best described as….🤔 Obscene. 😱
Charlie's hammer strikes are like lightning, they never hit the same place twice.
PSA for the win! 😃 You guys are helping me justify sooo many purchases. 😁👍
My people at HS Produkt are having the last laugh. Good job VHS2.
Charlie is comdic humor guy but still he got full kit and that makes me happy 😊
@Hulk Hogan There *_WERE NO_* female Sailors killed on 08JUN1967 aboard the USS Liberty, how about you *_LEARN_* about what you want to be ever so sanctimonious about?
Ridiculous tests often yield fantastic results! Great content!
So we learned that a little frozen water will turn any rifle into a crew served weapon.
Any rifle? In case of AK all you need to do is change mag!
Well Done! That was a fun one to watch. Welcome to Idaho!
As a Canadian, the x95 is one of the last reliable black rifles available to us. Thanks for featuring it in this test. Maybe a review video is in order?
It’s on the list. Buy them while you can.
#BlackRiflesMatter
Came here for this. It’s almost your only choice for a semi auto 308 up here
@@cheezwheel1437 they’re all on the list
I got a X95 a few months ago so far i love it. I live in WA and its a constant battle for our basic human right to own weapons no matter their characteristics. Never back down.
Love how the hellion being completely shit on was the first one to run flawless if it wasn't for the dust cover being stuck it probably would have eject that round too lmao
You move to Idaho and Charlie starts lookin more and more like Dahmer. I like this character arc
For the sig 553, there's a little piece in front, upper the cannon called the "buse". In case of great frost this piece is made for turn a little and release à bigger hole in the gas tube. So you can shoot 1 shot per 1 shot but without loading failure. From a Swiss military.
Seeing the VHS-2 working almost perfect makes my day~ 😙
I mean come on ~ It’s a beautiful rifle! Please don’t hate it just because the damn Springfield give it a terrible name in US.
Springfield just sucks. They sell an imported rifle they gave a dumb name to, a pistol that is pretty good but again they don't make it, 1911s which Colt brought to market a hundred years ago, and they sell an M1A which was the worst cold war rifle and they don't even use forged receivers like Fulton does.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz At leas the Saint it good...
I think its disrespecgtful to be so sceptical about hellion. I dont know how many people are familliar that Hellion is in fact Croatian rifle ( HS Protukt VHS-2) what stands for "multifunctional croatian machinegun" that is used by croatian army and special forces. It was used for years in its first iterration (VHS1) wich has some minor flaws but in second itteration they are all fixed. Of corse it is not perfect but is combat proven in afganistan and other NATO mission that Croatia partricipated and it showh as very very reliable. The Hellion has nothing to do with SA its only imported by SA and its completely produced in Croatia. When France was choosing a new rifle for its army in 2017, the VHS 2 finished 2nd in the competition, just behind the German HK416 F. Some sources state that it was even better than the HK416 F, but it was minor, so they chose germany rifle due to political reasons.
@@BabyMachine it better be, it's an AR15. Everyone and their brother makes those. I'll give Springfield the credit of actively selling a 16" midlength with a FSB. Some people dont like those, but it's really the proper civilian M4 because 16" carbines have always been kinda terrible.
I wish HSProdukt would just distribute their own stuff in the US. I hate Springfield.
This is actually quite educational watching how to safely deal with malfunctions.
Hey GT - what about a video on "winterizing your rifle? what can you do to help it perform in the cold?
Like what if you ever find yourself as part of the rebel forces on planet Hoth?? your equipment has to work.
For example would you ever use diesel vs regular gun lube? can you wrap certain parts of the rifle to prevent snow from getting in? etc.
Great idea love the winterizing your rifle idea.
No lube, use dust cover and keep gun stored in ambient temperatures.
@@borkwoof696 ambient temperature..-10 to -30 C up in the mountains....I don't think you can keep more than a pistol under the jacket ....rifles...no way
run em dry.....
@@andreivo6581 that's why you leave them outside. Biggest danger is ice getting on your rifle. Then you take it inside to where the ice melts and gets inside it. Then when you're back outside the water freezes inside the firearm and you get these sort of problems
The brass going into orbit with that G3 never gets old!! 😆
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Proud owner of a Springfield Hellion which has become my go to rifle!! Love the way it shoots
As a owner of one of the first hellions (Vhs-2)made/imported. This makes me happy.
Honestly, with the Hellion being my personal favorite gun, it was pretty awesome to see it do so well!
I always think its fun to see guns they talk crap about do better than the "Good" guns.
this rule doesn't apply to high-points.
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I'm with you; I was pleasantly surprised as well. I didn't really like it when we had one at my LGS, but nice to confirm the Croatians make solid guns.
Hellion, while not really my thing is a cool rifle. Also, like the pfp.
This was probably the most normal Charlie has ever acted in a video to date…
Normal and charlie dont go together
He was too cold to put on his act
Kinda disappointing, tbh 😏
"Hanmer time?🤓"
The surprise for the M1A is surprising in itself. That thing went through several wars, and is still in active duty
Glad you guys did the PTR-91. Pretty much exactly what I thought would happen, but it's good to see the test done!
Also it's even more hilarious to watch the brass at night fly out down range and disappear into the dark.
Pretty positive that's an actual G3, for instance the PTR-91 isn't the only semi auto variant. I have a G3/cetme mix of parts that's not a PTR-91.
@@cullenseago1519 Mike literally says "We have the PTR-91" at 16:51 He also did a video on specifically a PTR-91 on this channel.
the hs produkt vhs 2 aka Springfield wasnt a suprise to me, i hear theyre pretty good military rifles
Plus, the Croatian winters are snowy/icy and cold af, so I'd be surprised if they didn't try and incorporate that thought into their design.
@@AverageBritishNerd1138 can confirm, freezing my ass off rn
@Dominik Ajdučić yea I would also assume that, but I'm not familiar with croation weather
@@AverageBritishNerd1138 VHS 2 is tested to -50 degrees Celsius to meet the standards of our military so no suprise it performed very well...greetings from Croatia
Your face when testing the Hellion was the same face you made when the M&P ran flawlessly during the pistol test.😂
That's the first thing I thought also 😂
Ahaaa! I get it. They are leaving AK for the last to keep the suspence 😉
Considering the Hellion aka the VHS-2 was designed and made by HS Produkt for use by the Croatian military and they experience cold wet winters at a similar temperature it passing was not a surprise.
Garand Thumb: freezes the weapons
AK: Nyet rifle is fine.
Maybe because ak was made in a really cold place were it snows
That was really awesome, especially the setup in the dark with only one lightsource from the side. It had something of a gameshow where somebody has to do a challenge outside the studio, including the low key suspense music. Loved it.
I have a lot of fun watching you guys do "science" and goof around a bit, but its also really good to see the INSTANT change of behavior when things get suspicious and how super serious Mike gets all of a sudden when safety issues occur. Imo this seperates this channel from many others where people just do silly stuff completely carefree.
Dude... This was tense hahah love the videos brother and the genuine happiness on your face when a rifle works is just priceless like a kid in a candy store
Oh snap, I own a VHS-2 as my first 5.56 gun after growing up my whole life with AK's and FAL's. It's been a great gun for me and because of that I thought I'd crash and burn in the test...Glad I'm still proud of it!
I also laughed out loud when the G3 sent it's brass into dark space, never to be seen by brass ghouls ever again 😂
VHS-2 was made to replace AK and it had to perform better as to be accepted as military standard for Croatian army. It went through some really brutal testing (ice, salt water, sand, etc.) since we have all kinds of weather here (from freezing winters to boiling summers) so it wasn't actually surprise for me. Greetings from Croatia.
Glad to see that VHS-2 (Helion) is performing up to spec, if the extraction port was open, i think there would be 0 failure and would shoot smooth as that AK-105, however, I am glad that the AK won :D
The hard cut to the "We didn't film one" montage thing was amazing
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Ice tests are a standard for US Milspec firearms. The M14/M1A and the M1 Garand were designed to "kick clear" jams in sandy, muddy or icy conditions. A fact about the M14 is it did better in the cold weather tests than the FN FAL. Additionally, in winter warfare you keep you arms outside the tent and not inside w/you. The problem of freezing can occur when a warm firearm is taken into the cold and the condensation freezes the firearms action. A sidearm or shotgun would be inside the tent, in case your camp is attacked. Good video and stay safe.
Damn, I really wanted the Spear Lt to pass.
That said, I'd really love to see you guys do a winter survival video like you did for urban survival.
yessir!
@@GarandThumb I second this
As a SCAR 16 owner, I'm glad the Spear Lt failed.
As an old school sig 55X owner
I’m glad the scar and the spear both failed 😁
@@williamhedrick7983 - LOL!
Love watching these, ice tests. You gents are truly doing the lords work. That ptr-91 broke my heart a little bit. Keep on keeping on gents.
Hey at least she got a round off, better than some of them lmfao
AK105 is King. Even the Springfield hellion did really good I was hoping for the G3 308 to do good easy to take it off safety and at least a busted one shot
Wait there are g3s that are designated in other calibres other than 308/7.62x51 nato
Все как обычно, дедушка АК на высоте. Подвел только магазин. А так отработал штатно. И создан был так что собрать/разобрать его может даже ребёнок, простота и надежность!
магаз не орига был