Deep mulch can help suppress these forms of tropical grass. Some will still get through but it will give the trees a head start until they can shade it out. It is one of the only ways to do it without poison.
Any few dozen households saving their cardboard shipping boxes for a few months could cover acres of that grass. Perhaps they could rent a "landscape mulcher" to grind up the dead & dying trees & stumps and chop that grass down. Find as much local dead wood as they can and chip it down over as much grass as they can.
I urge against this, even worse if the source of the mulch is from exotic species and its chemical make up may differ significantly to the local environment and the chance of foreign seed. Also you will smother any local regeneration and some that mulch will end up in the creek polluting it.
@@Nphen Please don't. That dead and local wood may be very much in need by local insects and wildlife particularly in an area that has been burnt. Look at the size of the grass your cardboard is not going to suppress it what it may do is prevent local regeneration of native species.
@@andrewclarke9978 Agreed that sourcing of the mulch could be a problematic and research would be required. Natural vegetation would also need to be propagated into the mulch layer manually. But keep in mind the grass is already a top tier foreign species, so sometimes you may have to break some eggs.
Great that you have so many organisations involved in this and by that hopefully you can get more things done and faster and if you help develop people in a local university you have a chance that local people get an education in this field and helps improve even bigger areas! Like rings on the water
It would be interesting to look into it but currently we don't have capacity for such research. We're looking to collaborate with universities so someone might pick this topic up, will keep it in mind!
Keep in mind with the disturbance of the fire and additionally the following rain the high chance of any potential remnant native seed bank may have a chance to regenerate. Possibly species that have yet to of been recorded at the site. Some seed will survive in the soil for decades that may predate that piece of land conversion to pasture. Keep your eyes open.
Maybe you should try to get a little sowing of trees and plants of seeds from your area and maybe also from plants that used to be there. Either that or help some neighbours starting one so that more trees can be planted on your place and on your neighbours (with their permission). The trees will help kill off the grass once they become bigger and denser
Hey, I looked up saboya grass and if it really is Panicum maximum you have a seriously hard grass to remove from an ecosystem. In Florida we have the pine savanna ecosystem that is managed by fire every 1-5 years and it is one of the most prominent and difficult to remove invasives because it likes fire so much. In the land I am managing we have had best luck with glyphosate, and fluziflop herbicides and you have you kill them before they can flower and seed again or at least cut them back. For different treatments at the site I would recommend solarization, soil inversion, herbicide, continual tilling to exhaust the seedbank first, or scalping the top soil and starting from scratch (lots of disturbance though)
fluziflop is known to be particularly bad for microsomal fungi something that would still be present in the area with native forest so close, its also not to be used close to waterways particularly in large volumes. If herbicide was going to be used I would stick with glyhosate.
Tarping an area might work on short term. The problem will solve itself once the trees develop some serious canopy. They have to get planting as soon as possible while the ground is still bare enough to dig efficiently.
Yes, the grasses are notoriously hard to get rid of. Our plan is to remove the grass cover manually, plant a mix of pioneer and mid succession trees and do maintenance (removing grass around the tees) every 2-3 months. The idea is to quickly create canopy cover that will eventually shade out the grass. This method has been successful in other areas of the tropics but still takes 5 or more years to see the results so let's see how it goes - keep your fingers crossed!
Maybe you want to have a look into the techniques of syntropic agroforestry, which are about using pioneer species like your pasture grass to accelerate succession. Cutting the grass around your tree islands and using it to mulch these trees might be one possibilty.
I wonder if the Miyawaki method for growing forest fast, by planting the trees close together, is relevant here. May be Amazonian forest is naturally so dense that the method is already used by Nature.
Maybe you can get some ideas from the rhino forest fund that is reforesting in the Tabin area. They compare different Methods of letting the trees grow and from what i remember, grassland really needs effort to reforest as many trees need shade from bigger trees to grow and the grass suffocates the young trees
This applied nucleation looks very promising. I hadn't heard of it before. Will you also be testing the Miyawaki method on faster regrowth? I'm curious to see your future data on these different growing methods. You're doing great work!
As our pasture are is not that big it doesn't allow us to test too many different treatments. In this area we#d like to test two different planting densities for the tree islands but will have a look into the Miyawaki method - haven't heard of it before!
@@MossyEarth-FieldNotes Thank's for your quick response. I believe the tree islands are the right choice here. The Miyawaki method works in small urban settings where you want quick results, but needs thinning in the long run and requires more preparation of the soil than you might want in a natural setting like yours. Plus, you need lots of trees. I wish you the best of luck on resourcing the trees and will stay tuned for the results on different densities. I'm growing a forest myself, so I will be taking notes.
on the point that some ppl eat the turtles if you dont have anything else i can understand it. Yes i am not happy about it but is not a eazy fix. great video btw.
Yes, agreed. With bush meat consumption it's a tricky one. It is a local resource that adds value to the forest for the local people and hence could serve as an incentive to protect it long term but, unfortunately, in most cases the animals are not hunted sustainably just for local consumption but are exploited heavily and sold to other markets in the country and abroad. Unfortunately, this is often one of the few sources of income in these kinds of places so that's one of the main things we are trying to address - supporting local sustainable livelihoods.
They should have walked away from the area after they released that first Boa. As it was clearly stressed out and taking a defensive stance. Hanging around and filming it was only causing it to be more agitated. The best releases are done quickly and quietly so that the animal is left alone as fast as possible so it doesn't get too stressed. It's also not great to release that many animals at the same time as they will all look for an escape path and because they were fully surrounded by people when the first boa was brought out it went right into attack mode. I get everyone wanted to watch the release and film it, but that's putting their wants above the needs of the animals.
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The hangry boa with the butterfly on it's face is why everyone should support these scientists and their work
And the blue butterflies flapping around it's face a bit after that 😂
Deep mulch can help suppress these forms of tropical grass. Some will still get through but it will give the trees a head start until they can shade it out. It is one of the only ways to do it without poison.
Seconding this approach. Please consider this Mossy Earth!
Any few dozen households saving their cardboard shipping boxes for a few months could cover acres of that grass. Perhaps they could rent a "landscape mulcher" to grind up the dead & dying trees & stumps and chop that grass down. Find as much local dead wood as they can and chip it down over as much grass as they can.
I urge against this, even worse if the source of the mulch is from exotic species and its chemical make up may differ significantly to the local environment and the chance of foreign seed. Also you will smother any local regeneration and some that mulch will end up in the creek polluting it.
@@Nphen Please don't. That dead and local wood may be very much in need by local insects and wildlife particularly in an area that has been burnt. Look at the size of the grass your cardboard is not going to suppress it what it may do is prevent local regeneration of native species.
@@andrewclarke9978 Agreed that sourcing of the mulch could be a problematic and research would be required. Natural vegetation would also need to be propagated into the mulch layer manually. But keep in mind the grass is already a top tier foreign species, so sometimes you may have to break some eggs.
Yaay, my other favorite project
That shot of the butterfly land on the snake was beautiful
Ah, I forgot to split my comment into multiple for the algorithm
Tell Freddy that his passion for animals is inspiring. 🥰
I'll pass on the message! Adriana
Thanks for the update! So cool to see many groups united by the common calling of conservation!
Yes! We're very glad that we can support these initiatives and local change makers through our projects :)
Nice update! Awesome to see the wildlife captured on trail cams, specially the Ruddy quail-dove (Geotrygon montana)
Yeah, it was very nice to see the pair walking through the brook. I also enjoyed seeing the lizard pass by!
Incredible butterflies too. Obviously not worth eating from the snake’s point of view!
Great that you have so many organisations involved in this and by that hopefully you can get more things done and faster and if you help develop people in a local university you have a chance that local people get an education in this field and helps improve even bigger areas!
Like rings on the water
That's precisely one of our aims - develop collaborations with local universities and help train locals interested in nature and conservation.
Thank you guys for your hard work! Freddy seems like such a nice guy with a lot of passion. Muchas gracias!
That's very true!
Amazing work! Comment for the algorithm 😊
I love these field note episodes!
Well done guys for getting these reptiles to release back into the wild.
I'm very curious to see the plans you come up with for replanting!
Thanks for the excellent video. I love to see the collaboration with local groups.
Great video! I know it wasn't at all the focus of the message but those butterflies were incredible 😍
Hi. Thank you for your efforts. Would it be possible to include information about mushrooms /fungi post fire and also in the forest?
It would be interesting to look into it but currently we don't have capacity for such research. We're looking to collaborate with universities so someone might pick this topic up, will keep it in mind!
Absolutely fantastic
thanks
The Amazon is such a magical place I hope to visit one day
Keep in mind with the disturbance of the fire and additionally the following rain the high chance of any potential remnant native seed bank may have a chance to regenerate. Possibly species that have yet to of been recorded at the site. Some seed will survive in the soil for decades that may predate that piece of land conversion to pasture. Keep your eyes open.
Maybe you should try to get a little sowing of trees and plants of seeds from your area and maybe also from plants that used to be there. Either that or help some neighbours starting one so that more trees can be planted on your place and on your neighbours (with their permission).
The trees will help kill off the grass once they become bigger and denser
The boa's, such gorgeous patterns and colours!
Keep up the good work, amazing what you have accomplished so far.
Hey, I looked up saboya grass and if it really is Panicum maximum you have a seriously hard grass to remove from an ecosystem. In Florida we have the pine savanna ecosystem that is managed by fire every 1-5 years and it is one of the most prominent and difficult to remove invasives because it likes fire so much. In the land I am managing we have had best luck with glyphosate, and fluziflop herbicides and you have you kill them before they can flower and seed again or at least cut them back. For different treatments at the site I would recommend solarization, soil inversion, herbicide, continual tilling to exhaust the seedbank first, or scalping the top soil and starting from scratch (lots of disturbance though)
fluziflop is known to be particularly bad for microsomal fungi something that would still be present in the area with native forest so close, its also not to be used close to waterways particularly in large volumes. If herbicide was going to be used I would stick with glyhosate.
Tarping an area might work on short term. The problem will solve itself once the trees develop some serious canopy. They have to get planting as soon as possible while the ground is still bare enough to dig efficiently.
Yes, the grasses are notoriously hard to get rid of. Our plan is to remove the grass cover manually, plant a mix of pioneer and mid succession trees and do maintenance (removing grass around the tees) every 2-3 months. The idea is to quickly create canopy cover that will eventually shade out the grass. This method has been successful in other areas of the tropics but still takes 5 or more years to see the results so let's see how it goes - keep your fingers crossed!
The applied nucleation sounds very interesting.
Will you create a local tree nusery as a part of this process?
For this purpose we'll get trees from local nurseries.
I wish you had a timlaps offf the burned area just to show the change over a months.
Great work
Love all the conservation effort and trail cam videos
I congratulate you on doing this re-wilding research. Your practical experiments are immensely useful in this field. (pardon the pun)0
Thank you! We're really excited to implement the tree islands over the coming months. More updates from the work should come around April time!
Corazon Nacido Del Fuego.
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Maybe you want to have a look into the techniques of syntropic agroforestry, which are about using pioneer species like your pasture grass to accelerate succession.
Cutting the grass around your tree islands and using it to mulch these trees might be one possibilty.
I wonder if the Miyawaki method for growing forest fast, by planting the trees close together, is relevant here. May be Amazonian forest is naturally so dense that the method is already used by Nature.
Maybe you can get some ideas from the rhino forest fund that is reforesting in the Tabin area. They compare different Methods of letting the trees grow and from what i remember, grassland really needs effort to reforest as many trees need shade from bigger trees to grow and the grass suffocates the young trees
nice video
What was the large male animal that was found dead? Paca?
Vaca, cow in English
@ Thank you
yes, it was paca :) a large rodent
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This applied nucleation looks very promising. I hadn't heard of it before. Will you also be testing the Miyawaki method on faster regrowth? I'm curious to see your future data on these different growing methods. You're doing great work!
As our pasture are is not that big it doesn't allow us to test too many different treatments. In this area we#d like to test two different planting densities for the tree islands but will have a look into the Miyawaki method - haven't heard of it before!
@@MossyEarth-FieldNotes Thank's for your quick response. I believe the tree islands are the right choice here. The Miyawaki method works in small urban settings where you want quick results, but needs thinning in the long run and requires more preparation of the soil than you might want in a natural setting like yours. Plus, you need lots of trees. I wish you the best of luck on resourcing the trees and will stay tuned for the results on different densities. I'm growing a forest myself, so I will be taking notes.
You guys should take a look at sytropic agriculture. The same techniques that are being used in the Great Green Wall of Africa
Can you guys rewind SoCal forests that have burnt from wildfires?
let's call this area: Phoenix patch
The problem is that what had raised from the ashes are just the invasive grass! They need to plant trees on this area!
I wonder if iwagumi would be a good option to test
who started the fire?
A power line fell in the area. There’s a video on this channel that talks about it.
Is setting up a motion detecting camera trap harder by a constantly moving background like that little brook at the end?
There is a setting for sensitivity of the sensor so I think it's just a matter of getting the right one for a set up like this :) Adriana
Maybe intense tree planting like Japanese urban forests??
on the point that some ppl eat the turtles if you dont have anything else i can understand it. Yes i am not happy about it but is not a eazy fix. great video btw.
Yes, agreed. With bush meat consumption it's a tricky one. It is a local resource that adds value to the forest for the local people and hence could serve as an incentive to protect it long term but, unfortunately, in most cases the animals are not hunted sustainably just for local consumption but are exploited heavily and sold to other markets in the country and abroad. Unfortunately, this is often one of the few sources of income in these kinds of places so that's one of the main things we are trying to address - supporting local sustainable livelihoods.
Is more because they love it, not because they don't have other options. They just want to satisfice their self's
They should have walked away from the area after they released that first Boa. As it was clearly stressed out and taking a defensive stance.
Hanging around and filming it was only causing it to be more agitated.
The best releases are done quickly and quietly so that the animal is left alone as fast as possible so it doesn't get too stressed.
It's also not great to release that many animals at the same time as they will all look for an escape path and because they were fully surrounded by people when the first boa was brought out it went right into attack mode.
I get everyone wanted to watch the release and film it, but that's putting their wants above the needs of the animals.
That introduction qas so unnecessary
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Thx for the vid, thx for what youre doing..