Winch Powered Dump Trailer Build for Lawn and Garden Tractors
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- In this video I fabricate an Electric Winch Powered Dump Trailer for Our Vintage Garden Tractors.
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Since the filming of this video, this trailer has been used almost daily on our 8 acre property to haul sand, dirt, gravel, compost, manure, firewood, demolition debris, and more. Everything has held up including the paint. The mast pivot and rear hinges show no wear yet. The heaviest load it can handle is about 6 small FEL bucket loads of pure gravel. Any more and the winch was not strong enough to lift. It can take trailer full loads of lighter material such as mulch, manure, and compost. The winch wire has tanlged a little bit in the spool and that's about it. The theory behind this trailer has proven itself so far. Thanks for watching! Be sure to follow us on Facebook to see daily photos and updates on these projects and what our company has to offer in terms of vintage small engine parts.
Thats awesome! Im going to use this inside a box truck that i have. Thanks!
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That's a cool set up.
I would have upgraded the floor with a much thicker steel, 12 or 10ga, that 20ga is basically sheetmetal used for car bodywork. Otherwise, this trailer looks damn good to me!
No video proofing?
It was so cool to see you working and having your son doing some work too
I'm an older man when my kids were growing up I had him working with me side by side ... it also this is the way kids learn not buy baby.. and yes dirt it's good for them .👍👍👍 Wish you were my neighbor we have a lot of. Fun .
I was about to comment on the mast until I saw what you actually did! Ingenious! Never would have thought of that. Just subscribed, keep up the good work mister!
Really good job, well built. Good thought and out plan to built a solid dump trailer.
GREAT BUILD! I am continually amazed by the ingenuity that people come up with. This is a perfect example of that
Thank you so much for the kind comment! I appreciate it! Subscribe for even more builds. I am working on a half tracked tractor dozer right now.
Good job..
Very well explained...
Nice copy of a tried and trusted simplistic idea works well 👍
A lot of thought went into your design and the execution was superb! I enjoy seeing others ideas especially when they work as well as this one.
Thank you for taking the time to record your project!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Looks great. Lobe all your videos. Thanks for taking the time to make them.
Nice work Norman 👍🏽👍🏽😎
Nice build Norman. Innovation at its best!
Nice job, gotta love having your own Mig Welder!!! Im planning on something similar but Id like to have a pistons set up or electric hydraulic system.
Nice job. Creative and Impressive. Thank you for sharing.
Love the winch/mast/pulley system. It’ll handle lotta weight
glad to have found this site i own a vintage Kohler genset 4k with k321 14hp motor getting ready to do a new ring job on it great videos thanks.
thanks for your comment. let us know when you open up the engine. we have everything you need to rebuild it.
Nice build -- thanks for sharing
Cheers, Patrick
I enjoyed the video thank your for posting - I am a novice self taught welder so I love watching these types of videos - I learn a lot. Thanks again!
thx for some idea how to make it, helps a lot.
Nice job! Maybe my next project. 5 stars
Nice job. I gotta build one of these
Clever to pivot the mast that way, nice work! Cringing watching you weld, those sparks get trapped in your socks can be nasty.
Thanks. Yep, I think I lost a pair of sneakers in that video. I am guilty of when I get excited about something, I run outside and do it. Even the act of lacing up my boots takes too long in my mind. I am working on getting better at that. Thanks for watching and commenting!
This a really neat unit! Well done!
great little dump trailer
He is a national asset!!!
I can hear you good in the beginning and at the end but not during the build, overall an excellent video and explanation. The trailer looks strong enough for the loads it's design for, I would've never thought of making that lift post being able to move with the dump body, nice and simple, thanks for sharing.
Thank you. All audio in my newer videos and builds are better now. Thanks for watching! Subscribe for more!
Looks great Norman! The only thing I would do differently if it were mine (which is not likely.. this is so much better than something I'd build) I'd put short chains on the bottom of the tailgate so you have the option to dump/spread if you ever wanted.
Thanks for the idea! I will add chains to the tailgate!
I was thinking of a winch setup for a truck bed on a chassis frame. The hydraulics are expensive and I already have the 12,000lb winch. I may get the project going this weekend if possible. Awesome setup and I also need it for my 8 acres.
Nice build bud! When I get to the higher up welding class next semester, I am going to build a lawn mower trailer for my Craftsman LT1000 lawn tractor
Nice trailer Norman, a great build. 👍🏻👍🏻
When manufacturing multiple bracket plates, tack weld together to drill one hole.
Talented man like yourself should get a spray gun and compressor,will save time,and spray can must be costing a small fortune. Neat idea,like the winch .
That is slick!
This is the people I love to see at the dump site that they come with these kind of ideas to unload their trailers or pick ups, not those fucking show offs that come with their huge lifted trucks pulling a factory made trailer with electric hydraulic hoists.
Lmao true!
Hugo Cervera i call mine the frankentrailer lol
Get some barrel pins for the gate . Mount the pins on the gate and have the pullpin go into a tube for support .
It came out nice, man!
I will be building a tandem axle trailer in my college welding shop starting next semester
Hello Norman. Good job on the trailer👍. When the mast pivots back to allow the dump mechanism to reach max height without getting in a bind(works great by the way) if you added a inverted 'hook' to mate with the top of the dump box when at max height, this would prevent the box from being able to go too far back and possibly invert in an upside down position. If this were to happen it could be difficult to reposition and might even cause injury.
Just a thought but overall great job👍👍
Thanks for the suggestion! Great idea!
Block and tackle and more pulleys would make the winch "stronger" too. I kinda want to make one now.
Stronger but slower.
@@Isavetractors ah yes, true. I saw your other videos on it and looks like it works well! I did not also realize how the bar would hinge like it does, that adds an interesting twist in the physics of it. Have a great day
Looks nice. It will be nice to find out from you how well it works out.
I still use it regularly to this day. Will make an update video. Thanks for your comment
that's a nice build.
I like this! Good job!
Thank you!
nice, neat work!
THX for all video,,, great help!
great trailer, may have gotten this suggestion already, but you should weld in some angle from the tongue to the base frame of the trailer. one on each side angles back
Isavetractors. I noticed you hold the mig wire too far away when welding. Try about 1/4 to 5/16 inch from material. Looks fantastic though👍
It's because I use fluxcored wire and not gas for this project
@@Isavetractors gotcha. I thought about it after and kinda figured that
good job norman
How do you turn it? No steering!
Accident waiting to happen. You need to increase your axle strength to support the new load structure, also tires need to be larger and that cable doesn’t look strong enough. Other than that. Nice job
Still use this daily on the farm today. Nothings broken except I've replaced the winch motor because the remote filled with water
Great idea!!
Questions. 1. How do you like using a cold cut chop saw blade versus a abrasive wheel in the chop saw? 2. Do you remember where you bought the cold cut saw blade?
The Cold Cut blade is from Northern Tool. It cuts straighter than the abrasive saw. However I don' use either anymore. I opt for a metal cutting bandsaw, as it cuts much more square than either of the Chop Saws.
isavetractors Thanks! I was in Harbor Freight eyeballing a metal cutting bandsaw yesterday. Thnx! Stay safe!
Now, where are you? 😆
Who’s your lil helper?
Nice repurpose
Looks like a Harbor Freight trailer that someone adapted tandem axles to.
How could I get all dimenction for fabrications for trailer?
Is there any safety mechanism in place in case of winch failure
There is not
a very good rust killer paint is . 1/4 linseed oil and 3/4 paint . try this . it is absolutely awsome for rust trailer like yours
looks good. how much weight you think it will hold? do you think it would be better to use a shackle at the winch hook spot?
I'm not sure. I have filled it with wet horse manure, and it lifts it fine. Whatever that weight is the max.
Safety Sally here...i’d like to see you wear a full face mask when your grinding and cutting!
You're absolutely right.
Impressive trailer, but thought I would comment on the hinge. I've taken heavy wall pipe which I could fit a machined shaft (junk yard find) through, and then cut that pipe into shorter sections. With the shaft already within that pipe, I would then weld every other section of the pipe to the frame and then the ones that weren't welded to the frame I would weld to the dump body. That gives you a heavy duty hinge, kind of like what you find on the door to your house. It's a concept that is very easy to build, it aligns itself during construction and will function under incredible loads. Consider this approach the next time you need a heavy duty pivot point, like on this small dump trailer. I'm sure you will like how easy these are to build and how strong they are.
Jeff Bishop Nice idea!
It also helps to put grease fittings on each section of pipe, eventually that setup can rust if you don’t. I built a trailer like this only larger and able to haul/dump 6k, and used greasable pillow blocks and grade 8 bolts for the pivot points.
julie r That sounds like the way to go. Did you use 4 pillow blocks, 2 for the frame and 2 for the dump bed with a shaft of some kind through them? I'm curious how you did it, I'm looking to build a dump trailer but something smaller...
Jeff, I used 2 pillow blocks mounted to the frame 4’ apart. Then made U shaped brackets that went over the pillow block out of 1/2” steel which were welded to the dump bed. Then drilled the steel brackets to match the pillow blocks (3/4”). Then 3/4” grade 8 bolts 3” long and washers between the steel and pillow blocks, as well as between the bolt heads and nuts and steel.
Just heavy duty weld on hinges will work just fine but I used 7 to 9 of them on my trailers.
Didnt you have room enough for a electric winch in the center so you dont need the tall lift in front. That looks great
Next year I'm going to build another one of these with a scissor style lift and a winch to pull it. That will get rid of the tall mast
If your pivot point was in the middle you would only have to lift 1/2 the load. The way you have it pivot at the back your winch must lift all the load so will limit the lift and extra wear on the winch.
if the pivot was in the middle then the back of the bed would hit the ground, also if enough weight was behind the pivot it could flip the bed up throwing slack in the cable.. not a good thing.
Good idea but u ever thought of a way to hook up a charger of a sort maybe to the winch as its using power it replaces it
I just hook it into a charger every once in a while. That battery last quit a while.
I run a cable off the battery for mine.
How does the mast manage to not ever tilt forward? Or how did you go about making it to where it doesn’t. Looking to do this myself if I can! Anyways thanks!
the tension of the steel wire holds it in place. It only moves to find the center point of the wire.
Thanks for the vid. know i now how to fix mine
Awesome! You're welcome
mucho good💪🖒👍
Awesome little dump trailer Norman !!! I await to see a video of this in action being loaded with your 149 backhoe. If i may ask what is up with the Deere frames in the background? future project ? and are you going to make a video with the cub tiller?
Thank you! The deere frames in the background are things I have picked up in my purchases. I am just taking the Ross Steering Columns from them, and then storing the rest of it for future use. I am going to turn that Cub Tiller into a Hydraulic Powered Tiller in the future. Yes I will definitely make videos of it all! Thanks for watching!
Dude welds in shorts and a t-shirt. I guess you can do that when you use a girly flux core MiG. I used one of those in beauty school. Since then I’ve moved up to brushing my gorgeous teeth with 6011.
the trailer turned out great. I was wondering if you could get parts for a four cylinder air cooled Wisconsin motor for my '65' New Holland skid steer?
I might be able to. email me the model number of the wisconsin to: info@isavetractors.com
How tall is the post the winch cable rides on?
I'm actually planning on building a similar trailer. Looked on my feed this morning and this was one of my recommended videos! I thought it was wild you tube must be reading my thoughts. Trailer turned out great good job. I plan on pulling mine with my 6x4 John Deere gator. How's the 20 gauge holding up? I'm considering using same material but I haul a lot of firewood and odd material on the farm and just curious if it will be strong enough not to dent. Again great job!
Thanks for your comment. The 20 gauge is holding up great. I have hauled bricks, manure, and gravel with it and it's been holding up great. No dents yet. There is another video on youtube that showed a guy making a scissor styled lift using a winch. If I had to do this again, I would use that idea and get rid of the mast. The mast works, it's just a little goofy looking. Thanks again for watching and your compliments!
I'd use at least 11or 9 gauge sheeting,11 would work good 9 will handle anything you throw at it.
On my trailers I used 14 ga. and should have used 11ga.
i was going to do something similar but just so you know you could most likely add hydraulics to it for under 400 bucks total. it was surprisingly cheap from what i though
This is a nice job congrats and I like your welding machine what kind is it can you give me details I have one but old and want to upgrade thank you
fricken awesome
Should have put a steerable front axle on it , that way when you turn you want be sliding your tires and creating undo strain on the tires and axles
by the way . good job !!!!
How much did this hole build cost you
Half build. The trailer was already pre built.😂 but great video sir
what charges the battery?
nice
Great Video as always! A lot of steel on that trailer! How much does it weighs? When you weld without long sleeves, do you not get a "armburn"? I know I get that from the little bit of welding I do and you weld a lot more.
I guess the trailer weighs a couple hundred pounds. maybe 250#. yeah my arm gets burned by spatter occasionally but it doesn't really bother me. it's too hot to wear my welding sleeves.
Hey Norm, can u recommend a business or guy u know that works on or can rebuild Peerless Transmissions for a decent price. Or could you possibly do a video of working on a diy transmission tear down for inspection and R & R in a series of videos i mean. If its possible.
How long does the battery last
I use to use it everyday and charge it once every couple of weeks. Now I have a solar panel charging the battery all the time and it never runs out
@@Isavetractors Is it a marine deep cycle
Yes it is
@@Isavetractors Ok thanks man
Curious as to how reliable you feel this will be over time?
Sean Signer pretty confident. we use it everyday for manure and gravel. so far so good.
I'd like to build an insert to my UTV trailer where I can haul and dump debris when not hauling my UTV. Your trailer gave me some excellent design ideas. I'm new, very new, to welding. I've only burned three 2lb spools of flux core wire so far. Watched a lot of RUclips videos on welding. But to make me smarter on the subject, I have to ask about your stick out. It seems like it's about 1" long (or is that simple the angle of the camera view). When I weld, I have to have the contact tip about 1/4" from the welding surface. What am I don't different or wrong? Or are you using what I've heard called "spray transfer"?
My little experience with flux core wire is you need a bit more stick-out than if you MIG weld.
Thanks for the info. You're the first person to say that stick-out is different between weld types. I'll give it a try. I hope that helps with my porosity. Once it a while, I get a real good looking weld. But many times, they are ugly. I don't think my travel speed is too fast (but maybe it still is).
@@bareavis about 3/8" is good.
Nice job! What kind of welder do u have?
I have several now but for this video I used a Klutch 140si
Cool Thanks!
Hey, man awesome job. I wanna do this soon. Don't mind me asking what kind of welder and model# are you using
At the time of this video I was using a Kultch 140si welder. That welder is great!
Esta bueno amigacho, pero si me iba a tomar el trabajo de hacerlo, lo hacia playo con las cuatro bandas volcables. Y me ahorraba una bateria dejando dos cables largos listos para conectar a la bateria del vehiculo q lo iba a arrastrar. Saludos
what?
Where did you get all your metal and sheet metal from??
Local Steel supplier.
*Cable should never bend at an angle greater than 90 degrees.*
Nice built but some comments, ...1/ please tidy up your electrics. the neg of the winch is probably chassis neg. this means the exposed thermal breaker you've wisely added coul easily end up touching the chassis and cause a short...if it's the battery side then you'll have an explosion on your hands..... 2/ You don't need a deep cycle battery for this application, a regular starter battery will be just fine so long as it is kept charged.....3/ as the winch has a capacity much greater than 5ft why not add a pulley to the system, if moving heavy loads the the tip will be half speed but twice the lift capacity.
Thanks for your comment. The winch is not ground through the chassis but through it's own wire. A deep cycle is actually what is needed as a regular starter battery is not designed to be drained and charged over and over. The only way for me to use a regular battery is if I had it hooked up to a direct charge from the pulling vehicle. I did consider adding a mechanical advantage to the pulley but speed is more important to me since it is mostly used on manure, compost, and other lighter materials. When I load it with about 3/4 full of gravel it works fine as well.
I'd use a heavier winch for the job,less problems.
My only complaint (although you did an excellent job) is the rattle can paint job. Why would you do all that fab work and not paint it correctly? Harbor Freight has some inexpensive HVLP guns that would do the job 1000% better than rattle can . . .
I have been demonstrating these methods for our main DIY customer base. In addition to a HVLP Gun you need a big air compressor which is beyond what most of our customers have. Rattle Can Paint Jobs when done properly look great as well. Stick around, we will be doing paint jobs with paint guns too in the near future. All of my tractors are working tractors too, so even with hardener and pro mixed paint, they are going to get beat up. We are planning a show tractor series in the future, where we will cover the finer details for those looking for that.
My suggestion, look into the California Air Tools compressor sold online at Home Depot. Well worth the money and they preform well and they are SUPER quite. I've painted several Jeeps using their compressor which I think I paid $329 for a few years ago.
Dean T will do! thanks for the lead!
Rattle can is fine it gets all scratched up anyway
Great trailer. I like the idea of the mast being able to pivot. Just wondering if it tends to move around and shake when traveling. If so, what's your fix?
It doesn't move around. When I lower the trailer I keep some tension on the line, and that friction keeps it from shaking around.
Looks the the trailer frame was part of a harbor freight trailer
Thanks, I didn't know what it was. It's still working great
that was my first thought, too. Early version maybe.
Harbor freight trailers are garbage.
as that a tig welder
Natsu Moe no a mig/wire welder. I'm not using mig though. I'm using flux cored wire
Flux core wire feed welding,mig welding uses gas when using solid wire.
Great job however I would suggest wearing a long sleeve shirt and pants. The light coming of that arc will give you skin cancer for sure if you do that too much. Scary man.
Agreed! Thanks for watching!
hows the sun burn on those bare legs for not wearing long pants????????? L O L , nice job by the way!!!!!!!!!!!!
I burned myself good a couple of times kneeling on the bare steel after it cooked in the sun. It's ok though. Toughens me up! lol
been there!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very concerned with the winch cable. Under load if you lost a shackle, hook, or cable splice the kinetic recoil up and over the mast would be bad. Most dangerous is the fact the your controls and the winch operator are then inline with a runaway cable, and hopefully no one is on the vehicle towing the dump trailer. Other than that great ingenuity and idea.
i concur
D Wax *Yup*
I started building 10'x6'x3' dump trailers over 20 years ago using a winch for dumping the trailer.And also using it to pull large trees and stumps onto the trailer.
I have up to 4 ton loads on my trailers hauling dirt,gravel,trees and large loads of steel.I now have 4 dump trailers,and the first 2 have hauled 1200 to1500 loads already...
Nice little trailer, I just don't want anyone thinking that I am cutting this idea.
your pivot point is at the rear.....''wrong''...
Mine is.
Welding in shorts takes nerve
Lost some leg hair along the way!
Rahul