It crazy that you did all this without listening to music, and it's even more crazy that I watched this without thinking to put music in the background for it 🤘 inspirational build man!
Hola Pechoo, buenas tardes. Que ingenioso. Me gusto mucho tu video mostrándonos el paso a paso en la construcción de este remolque volcados. Muchas gracias por registrarlo todo y compartirlo con todos nosotros. Muy buen trabajo. Segui adelante. Gracias.
For $20 you can add a snatch block then that winch will be plenty strong. The dump time will take twice as long, but the winch pull will be twice as strong. Great idea, good craftsmanship, and nice video. Thanks for sharing.
All you need to do to double the lifting power of the winch, would be to double the length of cable, add a pulley to where the cable is anchored on the hinge, and the cable would be strung through the pulley and anchored on the post that mounts the winch. Excellent video.
Hey bj, looked like it works well. Did you do it to yours, and did u use a similar winch or go for a heavier duty job? Thanks, it would be good to hear.
rather than the straight pull use a pulley and run back to a pulley at the winch mount and back to dead-end it at the scissor point this will double your winch ( use rope not cable)
Что на нём выгружать, 1 мешок с картошкой ? В конструкции подъемника, центр тяжести по середине, там такие нагрузки испытываются, до тех пор пока подъемник не развернется хотя бы на половину.
Excellent build. I love designing and building things and I’ve got to say this was a great build not a lot of people have the ability to design and build on the move.
Super, svaka cast na ideji.. samo bih dodao na tvom mestu osigurace napred da ne bi tovarni prostor skakao u voznji ili se podigao pri vecim brzinama...
Very nice. I especially liked the way you mounted the winch so that it first pulls the edge of the bed up until it passes a certain point, (where pulling the arm becomes effective).
Double up the cable to double the pulling power of the winch. Take it to the scissors then through a pulley and then back to an anchor point at the winch. Slower but stronger.
Congratulations on the project. It turned out very good. Allow me a suggestion: to provide more stability when lifting, it would be interesting to install two more pantographic structures parallel to the central structure. In this case, closer to the side bars of the frame/chassis. This way, when lifting, it won't wobble as much, even reducing the risk of breakage due to overweight.
Бесконечно можно смотреть как горит огонь, как льётся вода, ну как работает человек.. РЕСПЕКТ автору, просто МОЛОДЕЦ, руки - из правильного места растут...👍👍👍👍👍
The bed is connected only to the hinge on the frame. The airstream could cause the bed to raise up. Especially if you want to transport something light with great wind resistance. Therefore, I would recommend an additional lock that fixes the bed to the frame, so that this can be ruled out while riding.
hahaha you're tripping on acid. the bed frame is greater than 60 pounds plus you have the weight of the tip lift on the nose being another 40 hanging from the bed. he's going to have to go faster than 70mph to cause enough air foil to lift that empty. add 50 more ontop as a load he's good for 90mph
in order to increase the power of the winch you would have had to lead the hook back to the winch because then you have a pulley system where you only have to apply half the force the way you have guided the rope now the winch has to when it pulls the lever carry full load but your work is otherwise clean and tidy👍👍👍
Also, if he adds several meters more cable, the winch will be stronger. The more cable on the spool, the larger the spool becomes. Like gears on a bicycle, the larger the front gear, (at the pedal crank) the more power you’ll have.
@@MegaClaymor The larger the driver, a spool with several layers of cable, will increase the line speed, but decrease the pulling power. Strongest pull with one layer.
@@MegaClaymor As an avid off roader, I'd suggest you've got it backwards...First layer wrap on the drum has the most power as it's the smallest diameter, successive wraps increase the diameter and reduce the pulling power. All winches are rated on the first wrap, with up to a 50% decrease on units with long cables. In your bicycle analogy, the larger front (crank) gear increases speed and reduces power. Easy to confuse!
@@jonaathansimons7938 Not power but torque. Ignoring frictional losses power remains constant, if speed is halved but torque is doubled there is no change in power. In a rough way of speaking, power = torque X speed.
Estoy de acuerdo! Me podrías enseñar algo de lo que sabes hacer por favor 🙏 yo soy soldador pero no tengo el dinero para comprar todas las herramientas que tú tienes!! Que lastima por mí!!
Nice! Is the second pulley doing anything? It seems like it has no effect since the hook is attached near bottom hinge. To increase lifting force, the hook should be attached near the winch instead.
Where I am the trailer could only legally weigh 500 kgs, (no braking system and single axle) so with all the extra weight that he is adding on I wonder how much could "legally" be loaded.
I just wanted to say great build. I used your design with the scissors for the lift mechanism. The only difference is the I mounted my eye bolt on the pillar mount for the winch. I added a second pulley to the pillar, which reduced the load by 3/1. What I wanted to say mainly is, thank you for this video, it has inspired me to build a dump trailer and move on with the rest of my projects.
Just to point out a small flaw in a otherwise great video; That trailer is without brakes, so I guess it has a max. load of 750 kg. By the looks of it it was added quite a lot of weight in material to build this, which would reduce the trailers carrying capacity by the same amount. It would have been interesting to see by how much. Make the same design on a trailer with a maximum capacity of 3 tons or so would be interesting.
@@hugo169a Das Blech hat eine Stärke von 0,5mm , der Rahmen ist in der Breite größer als in der Höhe , was soll bitte eine Zuladung von 500kg halten wenn ich eine Ladefläche von 200cm x 100cm habe die in der Fläche keinerlei Stütze hat, die Ladefläche wird sich einfach durchbiegen, der Rahmen hat eine Materialhöhe von 20mm , einfach vorher durch ein CAD Programm mal laufen lassen dann sieht man die Schawachpunkte alle in ROT.
You could double the pull by adding more pulleys. 950kg x 2 or 3 or 4 even. Just depends on how many times you loop the cable to add multipliers. Like a Block and Tackle set up. Instead of a straight pull.
Brilliant idea you came up with. Awesome plan. If i may suggest to add supports on either side of the bucket because it is only supported in the middle and it seems to sway a little from left to right....that will come in handy when you propbably at an anlge trying to off load something
Creative design! However, as the bed begins to raise, the raising mechanism has nearly "zero" mechanical advantage (because the mechanism is acting nearly in a horizontal direction, & only a small force component is acting in the vertical direction, to raise the bed), but as the bed raises higher, the mechanism has a greater component of force in the vertical direction, which would allow for less total force required (from the winch) to raise the bed. A moment arm with right angle to the bed lift arm, & located at the pivot point of where the winch cable attaches should provide better mechanical advantage. The winch cable would attach to the end of the moment arm, rather than the raising mechanism's pivot.
I think it would have been more effective to sell the trailer and use the money along with the steel and winch budget to buy a purpose built trailer that tips, that way you know that the axle, and braking system along with the coupling (bearing in mind the origonal platform trailer is built from aluminium and would only be suited to carry camping equipment) is safely rate to carry the payload, the contraption built here whilst of a Reasonable design quality is not of sufficient substance to be fit for purpose. I also question the need for such a tipping trailer on a regular Basis,
slow is smooth smooth is fast. a racing adage that works in welding. its a ton quicker to just do it right and tack it in place, it takes less time to tack and get it perfectly lined up than to grind everything down or cut it off and start again. the basics are the basics for a reason. stick to it follow the steps and your work will show that as well.
Pomysł fajny, wykonanie super, ale myślę że hydraulika jest tańsza i nie tak skomplikowana. A jeszcze jedna ważna rzecz, jak bardzo wzrosła masa własna przyczepki? Z tego co widzę to DMC Max 750kg, masa własna oryginalna to około 120kg + kiper wraz z wyciągarką około kolejne 100kg (strzelam na oko) to oficjalnie nie wiele zostaje ładowności. Ale pomysł fajny i wykonanie też bardzo fajne i estetyczne.
Hallo.. ich bin ein Bewunderer deiner Ideen und Arbeit...ich habe da eine Frage. Wieviel wiegt der Anhänger jetzt nach de Umbau? Also wievielt hast du an Zuladung verloren? I am an admirer of your ideas and work...I have a question. How much does the trailer weigh now after the conversion? So how much did you lose in payload?
Только не повторяйте конкретно это. На скорости 110 км/ч этот никак не зафиксированный в горизонтальном положении прицеп улетит в лицо следующего на ним водителя. Поэтому, хорошо, когда такие самоделкины вешают на свой прицеп "I love DIY". Это значит держись подальше :-)
Идея вроде не плохая, но: можно было постараться под 45° резать! Болтами профиль сжимается, со временем ослабнет и будет ходуном все ходить, нужно вставки в профиль в варивать! Платформа ложиться на метал, нужны подушки, нужны направляющие, чтоб туда сюда не ходила платформа в сложенном виде при езде! Можете называть меня диванным инженером, я не против!
Да, что-то с трудом собственный вес поднял. Причём на начальном этапе, совсем тяжко. Прицеп на грузоподъём 0,5 т. А этим самосвалом, разве что опилки возить. Надоть с рычажной системой, да редукцией поколдовать(с такой-то мастерской) . А так, зачёт условно! )))
This is a really well done video. I have no intention to build a tilt trailer, I was interested in the tilt mechanism itself. I'll be installing solar panels and I need to create a tilt system that provides about 55 degrees of angle delta. They will be mounted short side down and are about 65.5 inches long by 35.5 inches wide. I can operate it manually and I would like a system that would tilt 10-12 panels mounted on top of a cargo container. I live near Seattle WA (NW USA - 47.18437N x 122.48287W) and the difference in solar hours is radically different between summer and winter so I can manually crank the panels to suit the sun angle in daily or quarterly increments. Frequency of adjustment will depend upon how easy it is to operate. The craftsmanship is remarkable by itself, but coupled with the apparent expert editing it was a breeze to watch. The sound track is nice. It sounds like a shop. And the shop is nice too. The metal cut-off saw and big grinding disc are great features. I got some great ideas. Thanks for great entertainment worth seeing.
1) The winch has more strength if there is a full wrap of wire rope ( cable ) on the drum when you have it fully deployed ( bed down in this case ) so the cutting it shorter is a big cause in the lack of strength you noticed. 2) if the pulley was instead a snatch block you could remove the cable from, you would be able to easily switch from dumping to pulling a larger item onto the trailer. 3) chains from the side of the trailer to the top of the tailgate would let it be a slight extension to the length of the bed for both hauling and dumping.
Not so, on the extra wrap of cable, the bigger the diameter if the drum , the less power, experiment,,put bigger tires on your truck, you will notice you have less power and need more engine to climb, same sinereo.
@@jaquigreenlees 1 full wrap of cable is generally required on a winch because the friction of the cable on the drum reduces stress on the cable anchor point. Pulling a heavy load with no wraps is likely to pull the cable from its anchor point. You can think of the winch drum as a gear. Larger diameter (more layers of cable) is a higher or larger gear. More layers of cable will increase your line speed, but reduce your pulling power.
Не просто небезопасна, а преступно опасна. Аэродинамикой этой прицеп на скорости отправит в лицо следом едущему водителю. За такое прав лишать надо пожизненно.
Да, фиксацию сделать не мешало бы, на всякий случай. Но я не стал бы преувеличивать опасность. Не думаю, что потока воздуха хватит, что бы задрать кузов, тем более, что прицеп будет закрыт машиной - тягачом. Да и лебёдка, вероятнее всего, имеет стопор или тормоз от самопроизвольного вращения под действием груза, иначе ей просто невозможно было работать
Ah cool merci c'est vrai c'est très intéressant je me suis demandé est-ce que tu as pris en compte la masse en plus que tu rajoute qui fait que la charge utile n'est plus la même ?
Great observation, but I'd imagine there is a consideration given to "overloaders" in terms of their stated g/w rating and actual g/w rating. Just pretend he threw all the additions onto the trailer for disposal with the other cementy stuff and you'll be fine.
I like this, the range of use is flexible. Good song box. Don't overload the frame. But looks tight and fairly stout. I need one myself actually. I'm getting to old to keep shoveling and raking stuff outta my trailer.
Excellent idea and your fabrication skills are amazing. You would achieve more lift if the deadline anchor was attached to the post just under the winch. In this way the deadline would also be pulling the hinge point, rather than just trying to collapse the lower angle brace.
Does the base frame have to be same size as tipper body. Im not a welder but wouldnt be easier to lift if pivoted just past axle as long as the tip body didnt hit the ground .
Enjoyed your build!!! @ 17:49 you noted that a stronger winch might be a idea for heavy loads! Ok I would suggest putting some of the cable you cut off back and just add a scratch block! Slower lifting but easier on life for winch, battery and trailer!
Hej. Fajny pomysł. Super wykonie Żeby zwiększyć moc wyciągarki możesz dołożyć zblocze..... Będzie wolna ale mocniejsza. Druga sprawa im masz więcej liny rozwiniesz tym jest mocniejsza wyciągarka. Spr jeszcze napięcie jakie masz przy używaniu wyciągarki jeśli Ci spadnie do 10.5 v będzie.
a ja bym zrobił zasilanie z wtyczki od auta tam ma jeden kabel wolny można by było go wykorzystać lub osobny kabel zasilający tylko wciągarkę z auta na zasadzie gniazdka domowego 😁😆
Just wondering if it's worth my time to build a dump body on a trailer that looks like it gan only hold 500 lbs. My trailer is rated for 3000 lbs and would be far more expensive , the trailer shown is more suited for a four wheeler.
Я не предлагаю с прицепа делать танк,но думаю не лишним добавить защитный кожух на электомоторчик[от осадков,пыли,грязи] и главное это страховочное приспособление от падения кузова,при обрыве троса. Мало ли, детки технику любят, всегда рядом. А вообще-то скажу вам по секрету,что мастер и инструменты у него прекрасные,но это сооружение очень опасно для жизни.для убедительности сходи на стройку,посмотри на кран,скольки на нем положенно блоков бетонных,чтоб не упал,а это просто мышеловка для людей
Только прицеп перед тем как подымать, надо будет ещё возить с собой длинный строительный уровень. Для того чтобы выставить прицеп на ровной поверхности земли. Иначе при подъёме груз вместе с прицепом , опрокинется в сторону наклона .
After reviewing your design more closely, it appears that the raising mechanism is not quite horizontal when the bed is in the lowered position, so the mechanism would have better mechanical advantage (when the bed begins to raise) than I thought, at first. Handy dump bed trailer!
( the cable initially pulls directly on the lifting bed edge - when the mechanical advantage of the "scissor - link" is poor... this provides a reasonable MA - using a short winching post..
The pivot point of the bed should have been moved forward a few feet. Will need a much more powerful winch to dump a gravel load, and then a bit of luck to keep it from buckling the hitch.
Ingenious ! ! ! If you get a longer cable you can loop it back and forth onece (or twice) more underneath to gain mechanical advantage and it will lift much stronger.
Jak już miałeś odniesioną przyczepkę mogłeś wzmocnić ceownik przy mocowaniu do ośki kół. Tam są 2 śruby w odległości 25cm, ja dokładałem grubości 5mm kątownik na 80cm długości.
typical german over engineering. the dump frame is now designed for medium duty despite resting on a an extreme light duty tin trailer frame that will bend before he even gets the box half loaded to capacity. also winch frame is almost heavy duty. he's not throwing a skid steer inside. even funnier is the particleboard glue floor. just saw dust and glue with the glue being the strongest part and the sawdust just a drying agent filler.great construction and fantastic welding tho, very beautiful weld bead worthy of mega machine construction.
In Germany it would loose its road legal permit anyway. Drilling holes into the galvanised drawbar is usually a no-go. Those cheap 750kg trailers are designed on the limit with no safety buffer, so weakening the structural parts is killing it.
Wow! Would be really good to carry my cacao produce from the plantation and carry garden food for my village people who walk 4 miles each day. Thank you sir.
Highly enjoyable I’ve always wanted to do something like that on a pick up box trailer that I have I can see where some of my ideas were quite faulty and I would have to redesign that lift assembly 17 times to get the right leverage for the cable to start pulling it up
Terminate the winch line coming from under the trailer so you can make a quick disconnect for the winch depending on if you want to connect it to the line under the trailer or connect it to something to pull onto the trailer
Плюс рычаги не просчитаны, я думаю что максимум сено можно возить и сгружать. Тот же самый песок или гравий не осилит, лебёдка сама себя с корнями вырвет.
Great job on that, very neat. Is there a reason for running the cable through a pulley first then to the fixed point, could you not just have the fixed point where the pulley is. If you could do it that way, with the stronger winch, you could unhook it from the fixed point and then use the winch to pull heavy items onto the trailer, the winch mounted a bit higher and cable left full length of course. Hook it back on when you want the tipper function again.
The trailer is so light you were able to flip it over by yourself? What you have there is a large wheelbarrow, that you happen to tow behind a truck. You didn't need to spend 3 days building a dump set up for it, just unhook from truck and use two guys, or a large enough jack to flip trailer on end, or at least stand it up high enough to slide material out. If you load it correctly it wouldn't take much to flip on end, even loaded. You could even back trailer onto ramps/blocks, then lift up, which would increase dump angle. All the weight you just added to that trailer now probably means you can't flip it up manually anymore. Nice welding and fabrication skills, but the modifications didn't really match the trailer capabilities before or after the modification. If anything, the load capacity is reduced on the trailer now. Impressive build, but how many times could you have unloaded it manually in the three days it probably took you to build, and it still won't dump a full load now unless you remove half the stuff manually.
It crazy that you did all this without listening to music, and it's even more crazy that I watched this without thinking to put music in the background for it 🤘 inspirational build man!
he did have hard rock music at the start 🤐
My same sentiments.
there is background music playing constantly!
74 years old. 64 or so years working. Still at it. No music or other distractions on the job ever. Just talk to myself.
Top job Mate 👍. You may consider a 2:1 snatch block to reduce winch loading up. Downside would be twice as long to move through full range of motion.
Great video. You are clearly an experienced DYI design engineer and metal fabricator and have the proper tools to do it.
Hola Pechoo, buenas tardes.
Que ingenioso. Me gusto mucho tu video mostrándonos el paso a paso en la construcción de este remolque volcados. Muchas gracias por registrarlo todo y compartirlo con todos nosotros. Muy buen trabajo. Segui adelante. Gracias.
For $20 you can add a snatch block then that winch will be plenty strong. The dump time will take twice as long, but the winch pull will be twice as strong. Great idea, good craftsmanship, and nice video. Thanks for sharing.
He basically built a snatch block at the hinge.
@@RenaissanceThinking The more snatch, the more power. But also the more cord needed, and time of course.
All you need to do to double the lifting power of the winch, would be to double the length of cable, add a pulley to where the cable is anchored on the hinge, and the cable would be strung through the pulley and anchored on the post that mounts the winch. Excellent video.
fire suggestion !!
He has already doubled the pulling power... watch the build again.
It is not a straight pull.
He needs a more powerful motor.
@@titantitan2851well one can pull that trick again. As long as the cable holds and mountings hold one can keep adding pulleys for more advantage.
@@aritakalo8011 The cable is the weak link in that idea. Built a setup like this about 20 years ago. Got clever with pulleys and the cable broke.
Cant wait to try this set up on my trailer. This video is exactly what I have been searching for.
Hey bj, looked like it works well. Did you do it to yours, and did u use a similar winch or go for a heavier duty job? Thanks, it would be good to hear.
rather than the straight pull use a pulley and run back to a pulley at the winch mount and back to dead-end it at the scissor point this will double your winch ( use rope not cable)
Молодец ,талантливо 👍Очень уважаю творческих людей.На глаз ,без чертежей.Придумал и иполнил.Сам так делаю.Классный прицеп ,красавчик 👍👏🔥✊
Что на нём выгружать, 1 мешок с картошкой ? В конструкции подъемника, центр тяжести по середине, там такие нагрузки испытываются, до тех пор пока подъемник не развернется хотя бы на половину.
а я навесы поставил не на край кузова , а посредине и выгружаю без подъёмника - одним пальцем
он потеряет этот кузов без дороботок
Excellent build. I love designing and building things and I’ve got to say this was a great build not a lot of people have the ability to design and build on the move.
Sei grande
Super, svaka cast na ideji.. samo bih dodao na tvom mestu osigurace napred da ne bi tovarni prostor skakao u voznji ili se podigao pri vecim brzinama...
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Very nice. I especially liked the way you mounted the winch so that it first pulls the edge of the bed up until it passes a certain point, (where pulling the arm becomes effective).
Belle réalisation......Bravo..... à breveter.
Double up the cable to double the pulling power of the winch. Take it to the scissors then through a pulley and then back to an anchor point at the winch. Slower but stronger.
Tolle Idee, ich glaube aber in Deutschland bei den TÜV wird es nicht durchgehen. Der V-Deichsel bei der Globus Anhänger ist dafür nicht ausgelegt.
Non c'è nulla da fare, Sei un Maestro dell'inventiva. Mi hai dato un Ottima Idea su come modificare il mio rimorchio, grazie.
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Congratulations on the project. It turned out very good. Allow me a suggestion: to provide more stability when lifting, it would be interesting to install two more pantographic structures parallel to the central structure. In this case, closer to the side bars of the frame/chassis. This way, when lifting, it won't wobble as much, even reducing the risk of breakage due to overweight.
You realise the trailer is about 1.2 meters wide? Would be overkill.
Бесконечно можно смотреть как горит огонь, как льётся вода, ну как работает человек.. РЕСПЕКТ автору, просто МОЛОДЕЦ, руки - из правильного места растут...👍👍👍👍👍
The bed is connected only to the hinge on the frame. The airstream could cause the bed to raise up. Especially if you want to transport something light with great wind resistance. Therefore, I would recommend an additional lock that fixes the bed to the frame, so that this can be ruled out while riding.
absolutely
hahaha you're tripping on acid. the bed frame is greater than 60 pounds plus you have the weight of the tip lift on the nose being another 40 hanging from the bed. he's going to have to go faster than 70mph to cause enough air foil to lift that empty. add 50 more ontop as a load he's good for 90mph
in order to increase the power of the winch you would have had to lead the hook back to the winch because then you have a pulley system where you only have to apply half the force the way you have guided the rope now the winch has to when it pulls the lever carry full load
but your work is otherwise clean and tidy👍👍👍
Also, if he adds several meters more cable, the winch will be stronger. The more cable on the spool, the larger the spool becomes. Like gears on a bicycle, the larger the front gear, (at the pedal crank) the more power you’ll have.
@@MegaClaymor The larger the driver, a spool with several layers of cable, will increase the line speed, but decrease the pulling power. Strongest pull with one layer.
@@MegaClaymor As an avid off roader, I'd suggest you've got it backwards...First layer wrap on the drum has the most power as it's the smallest diameter, successive wraps increase the diameter and reduce the pulling power. All winches are rated on the first wrap, with up to a 50% decrease on units with long cables.
In your bicycle analogy, the larger front (crank) gear increases speed and reduces power. Easy to confuse!
@@jonaathansimons7938 Not power but torque. Ignoring frictional losses power remains constant, if speed is halved but torque is doubled there is no change in power. In a rough way of speaking, power = torque X speed.
Svaka cast momce. Ovaj patent vredi svaku paru! Odusevljavas me sa saki novi projekat.🦾
It's one thing to be a skilled welder, but this level of ingenuity is impressive! Great job!
Estoy de acuerdo! Me podrías enseñar algo de lo que sabes hacer por favor 🙏 yo soy soldador pero no tengo el dinero para comprar todas las herramientas que tú tienes!! Que lastima por mí!!
Solamente me queda observar tus vídeos!! Que tengas un excelente día! Saludos cordiales pará ti y tu familia!! Y muchas bendiciones 🙏!
Nice!
Is the second pulley doing anything? It seems like it has no effect since the hook is attached near bottom hinge. To increase lifting force, the hook should be attached near the winch instead.
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Where I am the trailer could only legally weigh 500 kgs, (no braking system and single axle) so with all the extra weight that he is adding on I wonder how much could "legally" be loaded.
@@leolechien007 I was thinking the same. Unladen weight must already be near the maximum loaded weight.
I just wanted to say great build. I used your design with the scissors for the lift mechanism. The only difference is the I mounted my eye bolt on the pillar mount for the winch. I added a second pulley to the pillar, which reduced the load by 3/1. What I wanted to say mainly is, thank you for this video, it has inspired me to build a dump trailer and move on with the rest of my projects.
Just to point out a small flaw in a otherwise great video; That trailer is without brakes, so I guess it has a max. load of 750 kg. By the looks of it it was added quite a lot of weight in material to build this, which would reduce the trailers carrying capacity by the same amount. It would have been interesting to see by how much.
Make the same design on a trailer with a maximum capacity of 3 tons or so would be interesting.
I agree and to add without paint there will be dissimilar metals using steel with an aluminum frame.
@@larrybe2900 That trailer is build without aluminum. It's all steel.
his welds would not servive
@@hugo169a Das Blech hat eine Stärke von 0,5mm , der Rahmen ist in der Breite größer als in der Höhe , was soll bitte eine Zuladung von 500kg halten wenn ich eine Ladefläche von 200cm x 100cm habe die in der Fläche keinerlei Stütze hat, die Ladefläche wird sich einfach durchbiegen, der Rahmen hat eine Materialhöhe von 20mm , einfach vorher durch ein CAD Programm mal laufen lassen dann sieht man die Schawachpunkte alle in ROT.
You could double the pull by adding more pulleys. 950kg x 2 or 3 or 4 even. Just depends on how many times you loop the cable to add multipliers. Like a Block and Tackle set up. Instead of a straight pull.
Brilliant idea you came up with. Awesome plan. If i may suggest to add supports on either side of the bucket because it is only supported in the middle and it seems to sway a little from left to right....that will come in handy when you propbably at an anlge trying to off load something
Or the weight being dumped is not distributed evenly. Good call
@@nate2838 correct yes
Creative design! However, as the bed begins to raise, the raising mechanism has nearly "zero" mechanical advantage (because the mechanism is acting nearly in a horizontal direction, & only a small force component is acting in the vertical direction, to raise the bed), but as the bed raises higher, the mechanism has a greater component of force in the vertical direction, which would allow for less total force required (from the winch) to raise the bed. A moment arm with right angle to the bed lift arm, & located at the pivot point of where the winch cable attaches should provide better mechanical advantage. The winch cable would attach to the end of the moment arm, rather than the raising mechanism's pivot.
Wrong, it would be as weak as the hydraulic units for the first part of the dump.
I think it would be more effective if the cable went from the winch to the pulley and back to the winch
I think it would have been more effective to sell the trailer and use the money along with the steel and winch budget to buy a purpose built trailer that tips, that way you know that the axle, and braking system along with the coupling (bearing in mind the origonal platform trailer is built from aluminium and would only be suited to carry camping equipment) is safely rate to carry the payload, the contraption built here whilst of a Reasonable design quality is not of sufficient substance to be fit for purpose. I also question the need for such a tipping trailer on a regular Basis,
@@pauljackson5482 I question if you do anything but criticize on the interwebs.
@@asherdie no. I offer constructed advice. He did a great job, but for very little gain, unless he was simply bored or has too much time on his hands
Excelente todos s los trabajos y los tipos de video! Lo haves ver tan fácil jeje. Es un placer verte diseñar y soldar.
Saludos desde argentina
Классное решение!) Молодец👍👍👍
а на сколько он стал тяжелее
@@fasrus4912 совсем ненамного.... Можете оагрудать руками тогда, если вас десяток кг интересует 😃🤭
Wooow! That’s the best trailer improvement I have seen!
Odlično, svaka čast. Samo tako nastavi.
Nice build and trailer modifications. The video was very nicely done with perfect pacing and just the right amount of voiceover/narration :)
Не хватает блочной тяги, а не прямой! Хотя бы пару петель- нагрузка на э.двигатель бы уменьшилась в 4 раза.
По прицепу видно, что перекошено😂
я поставил навесы не на край кузова , а посредине и выгружаю без подъёмника - одним пальцем
I like the way you reinforced the concept in my head of tack welding. I am a novice & my work shows it when I rush ahead without doing the tacks.
No learning curve?
slow is smooth smooth is fast. a racing adage that works in welding. its a ton quicker to just do it right and tack it in place, it takes less time to tack and get it perfectly lined up than to grind everything down or cut it off and start again. the basics are the basics for a reason. stick to it follow the steps and your work will show that as well.
Pomysł fajny, wykonanie super, ale myślę że hydraulika jest tańsza i nie tak skomplikowana. A jeszcze jedna ważna rzecz, jak bardzo wzrosła masa własna przyczepki? Z tego co widzę to DMC Max 750kg, masa własna oryginalna to około 120kg + kiper wraz z wyciągarką około kolejne 100kg (strzelam na oko) to oficjalnie nie wiele zostaje ładowności. Ale pomysł fajny i wykonanie też bardzo fajne i estetyczne.
Dokładnie masa przyczepki bardzo poszła w górę.
Hallo..
ich bin ein Bewunderer deiner Ideen und Arbeit...ich habe da eine Frage.
Wieviel wiegt der Anhänger jetzt nach de Umbau?
Also wievielt hast du an Zuladung verloren?
I am an admirer of your ideas and work...I have a question.
How much does the trailer weigh now after the conversion?
So how much did you lose in payload?
According to the specifications, it weighs 105 kg. After modification, it weighs 165 kg,
load capacity of the trailer 750 kg
@@peChoOO Dankeschön 👍
очень уважаю таких самоделкиных! Браво!
Только не повторяйте конкретно это. На скорости 110 км/ч этот никак не зафиксированный в горизонтальном положении прицеп улетит в лицо следующего на ним водителя. Поэтому, хорошо, когда такие самоделкины вешают на свой прицеп "I love DIY". Это значит держись подальше :-)
а я установил навесы не на край кузова , а посредине и выгружаю без подъёмника - одним пальцем
Как это? Очень интересно.
Awesome job, I agree that a heavier winch would be better. However again “Awesome” job!!!
Идея вроде не плохая, но: можно было постараться под 45° резать! Болтами профиль сжимается, со временем ослабнет и будет ходуном все ходить, нужно вставки в профиль в варивать! Платформа ложиться на метал, нужны подушки, нужны направляющие, чтоб туда сюда не ходила платформа в сложенном виде при езде!
Можете называть меня диванным инженером, я не против!
Диваный инженер)))
Всё верно! Не только подушки и направляющие нужны, но и фиксатор опущенного состояния.
Mən İraqdan sizi salamlayıram çox yaxşı bir işdir biz sizin iş üçün səhnələrdə biz gözəl kanal üçün təşəkkür edirik 👍👍👍👍♥️
Думаю Гаишники, оценят по достоинству, 😂 за труды лайк👍👍👍
No tip lock for bumpy roads? Or tail heavy loading?
Молодец! Действительно умелец! Мастер на все руки! Удачи во всем.
Да, что-то с трудом собственный вес поднял. Причём на начальном этапе, совсем тяжко. Прицеп на грузоподъём 0,5 т. А этим самосвалом, разве что опилки возить. Надоть с рычажной системой, да редукцией поколдовать(с такой-то мастерской) . А так, зачёт условно! )))
@@ВиталийКравчук-б2щ не ну ты не прав,какие там 0,5 т! Куда на нем ехать? Какой зачет? Амортизации нет
@@ПётрАлексеев-з3х Согласен. Сено, опилки, печенье не нуждается в "амортизации".;-)
@@ПётрАлексеев-з3х приглядись. Это торсионный подвеска а не жесткая балка
@@ВиталийКравчук-б2щ я установил навесы не на край кузова , а посредине и выгружаю без подъёмника - одним пальцем
This is a really well done video. I have no intention to build a tilt trailer, I was interested in the tilt mechanism itself.
I'll be installing solar panels and I need to create a tilt system that provides about 55 degrees of angle delta. They will be mounted short side down and are about 65.5 inches long by 35.5 inches wide. I can operate it manually and I would like a system that would tilt 10-12 panels mounted on top of a cargo container.
I live near Seattle WA (NW USA - 47.18437N x 122.48287W) and the difference in solar hours is radically different between summer and winter so I can manually crank the panels to suit the sun angle in daily or quarterly increments. Frequency of adjustment will depend upon how easy it is to operate.
The craftsmanship is remarkable by itself, but coupled with the apparent expert editing it was a breeze to watch. The sound track is nice. It sounds like a shop. And the shop is nice too. The metal cut-off saw and big grinding disc are great features.
I got some great ideas. Thanks for great entertainment worth seeing.
1) The winch has more strength if there is a full wrap of wire rope ( cable ) on the drum when you have it fully deployed ( bed down in this case ) so the cutting it shorter is a big cause in the lack of strength you noticed.
2) if the pulley was instead a snatch block you could remove the cable from, you would be able to easily switch from dumping to pulling a larger item onto the trailer.
3) chains from the side of the trailer to the top of the tailgate would let it be a slight extension to the length of the bed for both hauling and dumping.
re:1) no, it will be weaker, smaller drive shaft for cable = stronger pull, larger drive shaft = weaker pull (it has to do more work.
2) yes.
@@luckydubeinrc5165 According to a recovery vehicle operator 1 layer of cable on the winches for their wreckers gives best performance.
@@jaquigreenlees 11
Not so, on the extra wrap of cable, the bigger the diameter if the drum , the less power, experiment,,put bigger tires on your truck, you will notice you have less power and need more engine to climb, same sinereo.
@@jaquigreenlees 1 full wrap of cable is generally required on a winch because the friction of the cable on the drum reduces stress on the cable anchor point. Pulling a heavy load with no wraps is likely to pull the cable from its anchor point. You can think of the winch drum as a gear. Larger diameter (more layers of cable) is a higher or larger gear. More layers of cable will increase your line speed, but reduce your pulling power.
A lot of work, but the end result was well worth it, well done, and a good idea.
You could always add a couple of pulleys to increase the mechanical advantage to the lift even if its slower its ok it will be very strong
Ovo mi se svidja,mislim da cu moju prikolicu da prepravim na ovaj fazon,samo bi stavio rucni cekrk. Inace svaka cast
Все красиво, но массу сильно увеличил и я не увидел фиксации платформы в опущенном состоянии, без фиксации эксплуатация не безопасна.
Не просто небезопасна, а преступно опасна. Аэродинамикой этой прицеп на скорости отправит в лицо следом едущему водителю. За такое прав лишать надо пожизненно.
Да, фиксацию сделать не мешало бы, на всякий случай. Но я не стал бы преувеличивать опасность. Не думаю, что потока воздуха хватит, что бы задрать кузов, тем более, что прицеп будет закрыт машиной - тягачом. Да и лебёдка, вероятнее всего, имеет стопор или тормоз от самопроизвольного вращения под действием груза, иначе ей просто невозможно было работать
Ah cool merci c'est vrai c'est très intéressant je me suis demandé est-ce que tu as pris en compte la masse en plus que tu rajoute qui fait que la charge utile n'est plus la même ?
France is burning?
If you had done a double line pull it would double the pulling power & the winch would work a lot easier.
Agree 100% even triple.💪
Super Arbeit....aber legale Nutzlast sind jetzt noch 300kg? 400 kg?
So how's its holding up? Looks like it'll snap the winch off real easy.
Excellent job, but with all that extra weight it surely will exceed the maximum gross weight those axles are designed for.
I seriously doubt there was more than 100lbs added.
Great observation, but I'd imagine there is a consideration given to "overloaders" in terms of their stated g/w rating and actual g/w rating. Just pretend he threw all the additions onto the trailer for disposal with the other cementy stuff and you'll be fine.
@@Handirifle yep and the fact that he is still able to turn the frame over by hand and doesn’t look like the Incredible Hulk 😂
I like this, the range of use is flexible.
Good song box. Don't overload the frame.
But looks tight and fairly stout.
I need one myself actually. I'm getting to old to keep shoveling and raking stuff outta my trailer.
Łapka za pomysłowość i nakład pracy... Do lekkich towarów ok
Excellent idea and your fabrication skills are amazing.
You would achieve more lift if the deadline anchor was attached to the post just under the winch. In this way the deadline would also be pulling the hinge point, rather than just trying to collapse the lower angle brace.
Молодец! Очень интересно сделал!
да и работать приятно когда всё есть под рукой
Does the base frame have to be same size as tipper body. Im not a welder but wouldnt be easier to lift if pivoted just past axle as long as the tip body didnt hit the ground .
To allow it to lift heavier loads just add more pulleys 😊 think of construction cranes.
Enjoyed your build!!! @ 17:49 you noted that a stronger winch might be a idea for heavy loads! Ok I would suggest putting some of the cable you cut off back and just add a scratch block! Slower lifting but easier on life for winch, battery and trailer!
Must mean one of these
ruclips.net/video/QYBdl6ewP_Y/видео.html
Hej. Fajny pomysł. Super wykonie
Żeby zwiększyć moc wyciągarki możesz dołożyć zblocze..... Będzie wolna ale mocniejsza. Druga sprawa im masz więcej liny rozwiniesz tym jest mocniejsza wyciągarka. Spr jeszcze napięcie jakie masz przy używaniu wyciągarki jeśli Ci spadnie do 10.5 v będzie.
Właśnie chciałem dopisać żeby dołożyć jeszcze jedna rolkę a w sumie to dwie i siła się zwiększy dwukrotnie.
a ja bym zrobił zasilanie z wtyczki od auta tam ma jeden kabel wolny można by było go wykorzystać
lub osobny kabel zasilający tylko wciągarkę z auta na zasadzie gniazdka domowego 😁😆
Buen trabajo,que medida tiene de largo y ancho?
Ficou top demais a sua invenção parabéns 👍👍
Поставь концевик.а так шедевра
Just wondering if it's worth my time to build a dump body on a trailer that looks like it gan only hold 500 lbs. My trailer is rated for 3000 lbs and would be far more expensive , the trailer shown is more suited for a four wheeler.
Я не предлагаю с прицепа делать танк,но думаю не лишним добавить защитный кожух на электомоторчик[от осадков,пыли,грязи] и главное это страховочное приспособление от падения кузова,при обрыве троса. Мало ли, детки технику любят, всегда рядом. А вообще-то скажу вам по секрету,что мастер и инструменты у него прекрасные,но это сооружение очень опасно для жизни.для убедительности сходи на стройку,посмотри на кран,скольки на нем положенно блоков бетонных,чтоб не упал,а это просто мышеловка для людей
Естественный отбор
сделал тупо бы упоры для хайджека и все , щелк щелк и кузов поднят
PARABÉNS PELO VÍDEO E PELA ENGENHARIA, EXCELENTE!!! DO RIO - BRASIL
Pěkné. Jen je škoda, že je nosnost vleku o dobrých 100kg nižší a na STK to letí ještě před vjezdem.
ruclips.net/video/pJiFqlTbkps/видео.html
Schönes Video und gute Idee, aber was sagt der TÜV dazu ? Was wiegt der Rahmen ? Dadurch verringert sich die Zuladung.
Mistrzostwo👍.
Genial. Aber wie schwer ist die Konstruktion etwa?
Только прицеп перед тем как подымать, надо будет ещё возить с собой длинный строительный уровень. Для того чтобы выставить прицеп на ровной поверхности земли. Иначе при подъёме груз вместе с прицепом , опрокинется в сторону наклона .
Не чего не случится! На Татрах такая же подъемная система!
Та ну ты шо гонишь? Это жеж не тонар
сделал тупо бы упоры для хайджека и все , щелк щелк и кузов поднят
я поставил навесы не на край кузова , а посредине и выгружаю без подъёмника при любом боковом наклоне - одним пальцем
Hi, I am currently modifying my trailer in the same way, your video is excellent! What power is the winch you are using? thanks!
After reviewing your design more closely, it appears that the raising mechanism is not quite horizontal when the bed is in the lowered position, so the mechanism would have better mechanical advantage (when the bed begins to raise) than I thought, at first. Handy dump bed trailer!
( the cable initially pulls directly on the lifting bed edge - when the mechanical advantage of the "scissor - link" is poor... this provides a reasonable MA - using a short winching post..
The pivot point of the bed should have been moved forward a few feet. Will need a much more powerful winch to dump a gravel load, and then a bit of luck to keep it from buckling the hitch.
Ideal!
Nu am văzut sistemul frânare!
E fără??
I like that chop saw ... is it homemade using an old angle grinder ??
Muito bom! Gostei demais! Irei seguir esse mesmo modelo para a minha! Achei a sua muito mais leve!
🚧🚧Perhaps a front locking pine so the top part of the trailer does not take off when it's empty on highways ??? 🚧🚧
Nice video Bro !
Tnx bro!👨🏭
@@peChoOO πόσο τα δίνεις αυτα;
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how many extra wight brings your steelwork? but great welderwork!
Great job. Thank you for your time and effort to make this video and share it with us. Greetings from Croatia.
Ingenious ! ! ! If you get a longer cable you can loop it back and forth onece (or twice) more underneath to gain mechanical advantage and it will lift much stronger.
Jak już miałeś odniesioną przyczepkę mogłeś wzmocnić ceownik przy mocowaniu do ośki kół. Tam są 2 śruby w odległości 25cm, ja dokładałem grubości 5mm kątownik na 80cm długości.
What welding machine you use!??
респект, телегу с нуля сделать надо было, а то борта ходят туда сюда, свое что сделал на много надежней.
Однозначно лайк!!!👍отличная работа!
typical german over engineering. the dump frame is now designed for medium duty despite resting on a an extreme light duty tin trailer frame that will bend before he even gets the box half loaded to capacity. also winch frame is almost heavy duty. he's not throwing a skid steer inside. even funnier is the particleboard glue floor. just saw dust and glue with the glue being the strongest part and the sawdust just a drying agent filler.great construction and fantastic welding tho, very beautiful weld bead worthy of mega machine construction.
It's a phenolic hardwood film faced plywood what is used often for concrete formwork. It's really strong and weatherproof
It works for him..
If your so smart and talented then build your own and visdeo it instead of trying to tear someone else down. Hell its easy to be a internet critic
Tagia erba bifronte te al tratore 18 cavalli
In Germany it would loose its road legal permit anyway. Drilling holes into the galvanised drawbar is usually a no-go. Those cheap 750kg trailers are designed on the limit with no safety buffer, so weakening the structural parts is killing it.
Интересно но очень затратно . За идею 👍👍👍
сложно , а я всего лишь поставил навесы не на край кузова , а посредине и выгружаю без подъёмника - одним пальцем
Wow! Would be really good to carry my cacao produce from the plantation and carry garden food for my village people who walk 4 miles each day. Thank you sir.
Очень практично. Но по звуку мотора кажется что мощьности маловато
Не кажется, так и есть...
super, mais combien de poids en plus pour la remorque et en moins pour la charge??
Highly enjoyable I’ve always wanted to do something like that on a pick up box trailer that I have I can see where some of my ideas were quite faulty and I would have to redesign that lift assembly 17 times to get the right leverage for the cable to start pulling it up
Super pomysł, ulatwia pracę. Pozdrawiam
Very good
Fajna przyczepka. Tylko jaka ladownosc jej zostala po dolozeniu ciezaru konstrukci stalowej?
Terminate the winch line coming from under the trailer so you can make a quick disconnect for the winch depending on if you want to connect it to the line under the trailer or connect it to something to pull onto the trailer
how much load are you allowed to carry now? no brakes ? in germany max load 750kg...
Идея хорошая, но грузоподъемность уменьшилась ровно на вес металлической конструкции.
Плюс рычаги не просчитаны, я думаю что максимум сено можно возить и сгружать. Тот же самый песок или гравий не осилит, лебёдка сама себя с корнями вырвет.
Great job on that, very neat. Is there a reason for running the cable through a pulley first then to the fixed point, could you not just have the fixed point where the pulley is. If you could do it that way, with the stronger winch, you could unhook it from the fixed point and then use the winch to pull heavy items onto the trailer, the winch mounted a bit higher and cable left full length of course. Hook it back on when you want the tipper function again.
Браво
C'est une superbe conception.
Le fait d'avoir placé le treuil en hauteur aide beaucoup le compas a décoller dans le début du levage.😊
The trailer is so light you were able to flip it over by yourself? What you have there is a large wheelbarrow, that you happen to tow behind a truck. You didn't need to spend 3 days building a dump set up for it, just unhook from truck and use two guys, or a large enough jack to flip trailer on end, or at least stand it up high enough to slide material out. If you load it correctly it wouldn't take much to flip on end, even loaded. You could even back trailer onto ramps/blocks, then lift up, which would increase dump angle. All the weight you just added to that trailer now probably means you can't flip it up manually anymore. Nice welding and fabrication skills, but the modifications didn't really match the trailer capabilities before or after the modification. If anything, the load capacity is reduced on the trailer now. Impressive build, but how many times could you have unloaded it manually in the three days it probably took you to build, and it still won't dump a full load now unless you remove half the stuff manually.
Great work! Hello from Russia.