Great video! I'll add what I've found to work also. If you set your throttle hold curve to 20%, this will allow the bailout function to work for however many seconds that your "AR" (Auto Restart) time is set to in the ESC. So if you click out of hold during the auto, the bailout function will "fast start" the motor like you described. I have my AR time set to 30 seconds, as I doubt I could keep my RS4 in the air that long during an auto before landing. After 30 seconds, the esc will revert to the normal "soft start". The thing to remember is that if you do a short auto from a hover to landing with the blades stopped, then click out of hold within that 30 seconds, the motor will still fast start which could be a bad thing if your blades aren't tight enough or you're otherwise not ready for it. Initiating the throttle cut briefly after landing, either on a different switch or the same if desired, will reset the "AR" no matter how many seconds have elapsed, then soft start normally once clicked out of both. This is just a different way to accomplish the same thing, but would allow for your throttle hold and throttle cut to be on different switches which I am more used to for planes and nitro helis. Thanks again for the great video and taking the time to make it. It's what initially made me aware of how the bailout function worked on ESC's as I'm pretty new to the electric heli world!
Excellent comment will try this too on a dedicated throttle cut switch because my muscle memory is burned in for throttle hold and I don't want to change off that two position switch. So will setup a separate throttle cut switch and change to -20%.
Thank you for posting this very well done video. This video demonstrates how to get the job done in an easy to understand step-by-step manner. I would like to add that there is more than one way to "skin the cat". I personally would have reversed the "Throttle Hold" and "Throttle Cut" positions in the 3-way switch so that "Throttle Hold" would be in the middle position of the 3-way switch. This would not affect the functionality, but it would help to maintain setup consistency across my fleet.
Same for a YGE esc , but, I also reversed this setup so that throttle hold is on the middle of the 3 position switch B , that way throttle cut on switch H cannot be overridden by throttle hold.
Excellent video! My bailout stops working as soon as the motor stops turning. After the motor stops, the esc goes back to the soft spoolup. I'm using an old DX8 Gen 1 so I don't think I have a way to set it up on a 3-way switch. Any suggestions?
You have to tell us what ESC you are using, as different ESCs use different throttle percent range for fast spool-up bailout. I do not currently own any Spektrum radios, but I did own a first generation Spektrum DX8 (as well as a DX6i, DX9, DX18, and DX8 Gen2). It should be possible to have a setup similar to what is shown in this video (with a NX8 radio) with the gen 1 DX8 radio as well. The DX8 radio has plenty of 3-way switches, so pick the 3-way switch you want for this function, and assign "Throttle Hold" and "Throttle Cut" to the respective positions in that 3-way switch, so that it functions similarly to the VBar Control radio. I personally would assign "Throttle Hold" to the 3-way switch middle position and dial up the throttle on this "Throttle Hold" to the ESC bailout range (different for different ESC brands), and assign "Throttle Cut" to your preferred 3-way switch extreme position (either away from you or towards you; I prefer towards me or down) and dial the throttle to 0% or lower. With this setup up, the 3-way switch would need to be in the "Throttle Cut" position to "arm" the ESC. I currently have a two helicopters setup with VBar Control Touch radio and Neo VLinks. I personally do NOT like having this Motor ON/Motor IDLE/Motor OFF function assigned to a 3-way switch. It is not uncommon for me to flip the 3-way switch too far from Motor ON all the way to Motor OFF (soft-start spool-up) when I really intended to flip the 3-way switch to the middle position (Motor IDLE) for the possibility of fast spool-up bailout. Also, I had one incident where I landed fine from the autorotation, I got distracted with other pilots talking to me, and I flipped the 3-way switch the wrong way from the middle position. Instead of flipping to "Motor OFF", I unintentionally flipped the 3-way switch to "Motor ON", and hilarity ensued for the spectators with the chicken dance. I cannot uncouple the Throttle Hold (Motor IDLE) and Throttle Cut (Motor OFF) functions on the VBar Control radio to separate switches, so I deal with it, but I prefer to have separate 2-way switches in my other radios for the "Throttle Hold" and "Throttle Cut" functions.
Dude excellent video. I understand ow how to do this but still confused why throttle cut is working like hold should. I always thought thru flying planes, throttle cut is the one that completely kills the motor, and hold would simply hold the motor in a pre set rpm but here it’s kind of reverse where hold is the total kill and cut is something else
@@LichaelMewis she’s a better machine than I am a pilot. Ha Your esc video was great and gave me confidence with this. I have only piloted BNF models until I got the TB-40 so thank you for posting !
Great video! I'll add what I've found to work also. If you set your throttle hold curve to 20%, this will allow the bailout function to work for however many seconds that your "AR" (Auto Restart) time is set to in the ESC. So if you click out of hold during the auto, the bailout function will "fast start" the motor like you described. I have my AR time set to 30 seconds, as I doubt I could keep my RS4 in the air that long during an auto before landing. After 30 seconds, the esc will revert to the normal "soft start".
The thing to remember is that if you do a short auto from a hover to landing with the blades stopped, then click out of hold within that 30 seconds, the motor will still fast start which could be a bad thing if your blades aren't tight enough or you're otherwise not ready for it. Initiating the throttle cut briefly after landing, either on a different switch or the same if desired, will reset the "AR" no matter how many seconds have elapsed, then soft start normally once clicked out of both.
This is just a different way to accomplish the same thing, but would allow for your throttle hold and throttle cut to be on different switches which I am more used to for planes and nitro helis.
Thanks again for the great video and taking the time to make it. It's what initially made me aware of how the bailout function worked on ESC's as I'm pretty new to the electric heli world!
Excellent comment will try this too on a dedicated throttle cut switch because my muscle memory is burned in for throttle hold and I don't want to change off that two position switch. So will setup a separate throttle cut switch and change to -20%.
Great demo on this subject. Thanks!
Thank you for posting this very well done video. This video demonstrates how to get the job done in an easy to understand step-by-step manner.
I would like to add that there is more than one way to "skin the cat". I personally would have reversed the "Throttle Hold" and "Throttle Cut" positions in the 3-way switch so that "Throttle Hold" would be in the middle position of the 3-way switch. This would not affect the functionality, but it would help to maintain setup consistency across my fleet.
this information is so helpful Enzo thank you for such a detailed and professional video liked and subbed 🙂
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
Same for a YGE esc , but, I also reversed this setup so that throttle hold is on the middle of the 3 position switch B , that way throttle cut on switch H cannot be overridden by throttle hold.
Awesome will try it
Thanks alot i have been trygor a while to set up my bailout.
Excellent video! My bailout stops working as soon as the motor stops turning. After the motor stops, the esc goes back to the soft spoolup. I'm using an old DX8 Gen 1 so I don't think I have a way to set it up on a 3-way switch. Any suggestions?
You have to tell us what ESC you are using, as different ESCs use different throttle percent range for fast spool-up bailout.
I do not currently own any Spektrum radios, but I did own a first generation Spektrum DX8 (as well as a DX6i, DX9, DX18, and DX8 Gen2). It should be possible to have a setup similar to what is shown in this video (with a NX8 radio) with the gen 1 DX8 radio as well. The DX8 radio has plenty of 3-way switches, so pick the 3-way switch you want for this function, and assign "Throttle Hold" and "Throttle Cut" to the respective positions in that 3-way switch, so that it functions similarly to the VBar Control radio. I personally would assign "Throttle Hold" to the 3-way switch middle position and dial up the throttle on this "Throttle Hold" to the ESC bailout range (different for different ESC brands), and assign "Throttle Cut" to your preferred 3-way switch extreme position (either away from you or towards you; I prefer towards me or down) and dial the throttle to 0% or lower. With this setup up, the 3-way switch would need to be in the "Throttle Cut" position to "arm" the ESC.
I currently have a two helicopters setup with VBar Control Touch radio and Neo VLinks. I personally do NOT like having this Motor ON/Motor IDLE/Motor OFF function assigned to a 3-way switch. It is not uncommon for me to flip the 3-way switch too far from Motor ON all the way to Motor OFF (soft-start spool-up) when I really intended to flip the 3-way switch to the middle position (Motor IDLE) for the possibility of fast spool-up bailout. Also, I had one incident where I landed fine from the autorotation, I got distracted with other pilots talking to me, and I flipped the 3-way switch the wrong way from the middle position. Instead of flipping to "Motor OFF", I unintentionally flipped the 3-way switch to "Motor ON", and hilarity ensued for the spectators with the chicken dance.
I cannot uncouple the Throttle Hold (Motor IDLE) and Throttle Cut (Motor OFF) functions on the VBar Control radio to separate switches, so I deal with it, but I prefer to have separate 2-way switches in my other radios for the "Throttle Hold" and "Throttle Cut" functions.
Dude excellent video. I understand ow how to do this but still confused why throttle cut is working like hold should. I always thought thru flying planes, throttle cut is the one that completely kills the motor, and hold would simply hold the motor in a pre set rpm but here it’s kind of reverse where hold is the total kill and cut is something else
Can that go upside down ? 🤔
are u doing any videos at Mimi's this/next month
Yep! Heading back here soon. Got some things to try on the new layout!
Excellent thank you. Align TB40 ready for maiden ......
How was it?
@@LichaelMewis she’s a better machine than I am a pilot. Ha
Your esc video was great and gave me confidence with this. I have only piloted BNF models until I got the TB-40 so thank you for posting !