I know the area quite well, the first main mistake was not turning back at Kôprovské sedlo or sooner given the weather, the other one would be not continuing on the former path between Závory and Ľaliové sedlo. Going straight along the creek the Tatras could be deadly, especially during storms as the water levels can suddenly rise many times and drown you. The creeks often have a lot of vegetation grown over them, many times trees fallen over making it really difficult to follow them, some forested areas are almost impossible to cross due to vegetation. The area you were in (Zadná Tichá) is known to be as far from civilization as it gets, so you usually don't get cell reception along the whole valley + encountering a bear there is very much a real possibility as the whole valley is an area with probably the highest number of brown bears in the Tatra mountains. Guys, next time if you encouter weather as you had that time, please, turn around. Needless to say, I´m glad you made it back alive, because had you got stuck somewhere in the forest near the pond in Zadná Tichá, even the mountain rescue service might not be able to find you (or your remains) for years, there have been quite a few cases like that...
I was recently in the Tatras myself for a four days self guided hike two weeks ago. I´m also in a search and rescue group back home in Norway. We see this a lot back home. Tourists going into the mountains without proper gear. I would question the packing job you did, and also the length of your planned hike for a starter. You know your abilities best however, but 26K may sound like an overestimation to me in the first place. My longest stage during my four days was 20K for a comparison. Bad weather, terrain and dark are serious threats on the mountains obviously, so those are serious reasons for precautios planning not to end up in a situation as you did. You did a thorough assessment on whether of the two paths you chose, and although you were considering many factors, you ended up with the wrong turn. When such happens, we have a set of mountain rules in Norway telling that it is no shame in admitting errors and turning back when a wrong turn is done. Furthermore, it is important to realize that you put rescue personell in an indirect risk who has to make tough risk assessments, and eventually go out looking for you in harsh conditions. That said, you did some fairly good logical reasoning along your way and kept your spirits high, which is important in difficult times. Glad you made it back safely at last!
One last note, I do appreciate you guys not clickbaiting like so many youtubers and the video really does the title justice. Also, how was your insurance? Did they cover the rescue attempt? I mean the helicopter flying out must have been expensive af.
First, thanks very much for sharing the episode. Don't be offended by the harsh comments. Frankly, you needed to prepare for the challenge. The benefit for us all is to respect any high mountain, and that weather drastically can turn the pleasant walk into a hazardous situation. I'm sure you have improved your preparation skills after this episode. Finally, I'm glad you made it back alive. Cheers.
Guys, if u turned back on that footpath and went to Poland there was a shelter with hot soup and everything u could think about. mayby 2-3h from valentkove pleso. Going down into unknown when u were alredy exhausted, cold, wet, and hungry was a BIG mistake. You were also severely uneqiped. Aspecialy buddy in pink hoodie. Waterproof jacked and extra fleece sweatshirt in your backpack are a must in uncerten weather conditions.
You guys are lucky. The guy in the hoodie takes the top for underequipping himself. High Tatras are no joke, while small in area and not that high in elevation if you don't ascend the peaks, they can be super dangerous.
Good tutotial and could be called "What not to do in mountain". Josh with pink hoodie was not prepared enough for that trip, others a bit better. Where is wind proof vest? another layer of warm clothes? Not turning back (8:25), going short way instead of longer? How you can say that you made good decisions during trip (35:12)? I am wondering what you had in your large backpacks. Overall, good video. Thank you for sharing your stupidity as a warning for others.
Hi, i am from Slovakia. To hike the Tatras it requires a lot of preparation. Best if you first come for a smaller hike to get an idea. I have not made such an attempt as you to cross the Tatras, it’s actually an insane plan. The weather can change within minutes.... quite insane what you guys did here. You did not do your proper research at all so it seems.....
To be honest, your biggest mistake was choosing a trail you weren't sure about. Some of them have been closed for 50 or even 100 years, usually because they have become too dangerous for regular tourists. And if you're wondering why there are more polish wikipedia pages about the Tatras, it's because a lot more polish scientists were active there.
I'm shocked you survived that. I'm also very very glad you did. I have to say though - only bad decisions were made 😂 fortunately you were incredibly incredibly lucky to survive them all. we all make bad decisions sometimes, nobody knows everything. the best outcome is just having a dramatic and funny story and nothing worse :) interesting to see the other side of someone who got lost in such harsh conditions
back when shiey did something far more dangerous (which kind of inspired us to visit this place): ruclips.net/video/wTq3E1hU4uQ/видео.html this guy did a break down about everything he did wrong ruclips.net/video/GNMN4S0M_W4/видео.html
I'm just curious, what did you have in your backpacks? Because they look like 20-30 L and could fit a sleeping bag, a hard shell (at least for the hoodie guy), a down jacket and, most importantly, a TARP for the night, but I don't see any of that in the video
Throughout the entire video I was wondering what they had in those huge backpacks, they didn't have anything in it to cover the boy in the wet pink sweatshirt?
Hi, did you pay something for the rescue services? I heard that these services are no more free in Slovakia and thats why tourists insurance exists for these cases. Thanks.
I really cannot understand how u guys could make it this dangerous. Why didnt u guys brought a tarp with some rope so u could make a shelter. and a fire (yes u can make fires when its raining). Or why no small tent. also why no sleeping bag./ warm clothes. why didnt the pink dude had a rain jacket with him. i am a hiker myself and i speak from experience. I dont write this to give a shittalk but i just dont get why u guys didnt thought about the what if's. looked like all 3 of u didnt had any understanding of keeping alive in harsh conditions. I hope u learned from this and never get urself in a situation like this ever again.
we were equipped for a 3 week backpacking trip throughout europe during the summer, not a multi day hike in unpredictably cold weather. furthermore, while i agree precaution is always the necessary approach, in our eyes every extra bit of weight makes the hike much harder. i did tell josh to bring more than a hoodie though lol.
I don't know how it is on the Slovak side, but on the Polish side in the Tatras you can't light a campfire or sleep wild in a tent/tarp, only in shelters. You can get a very high fine if you break this law.
its great that you take away some learnings from this experience but im missing the most obvious one. lack of preparation. you guys strolled in there with your shitty boombox as if its a walk in the park. yes the weather was harsher than predicted but you werent even prepared for the weather that was predicted in the first place. seriously, a hoody? sneakers for traversing snowfields, rockfields and hiking offtrack? "it wasnt meant to be like that" yeah no shite, thats what preparation is about. usually you ask yourself "what if we have to spend the night in the mountains" but you guys couldnt even be bothered to ask "what if there is rain" even though it has been predicted. why bother looking up forecasts then? i really dont now what you guys were carrying in your packs. surely nothing to spend the night and apparently no other clothes or anything that would help you in literally any situation that you could face in the mountains. no food, no water, no warm layers, no spare clothes, no raingear, no shelter, no headtorch, no communication device. my backpack would be empty. "we were equipped for a 3 week backpacking trip throughout europe during the summer, not a multi day hike in unpredictably cold weather. furthermore, while i agree precaution is always the necessary approach, in our eyes every extra bit of weight makes the hike much harder." are you kidding me? if you are not prepared to take up the challenge of an alpine hiking path (white/blue/white) then dont fricking do it. just dont. otherwise what do you expect? no you dont agree that precaution is necessary. otherwise you wouldnt have been in this situation. you put wieght above safety but dont carry anything necessary for a hike? you could have hiked without the packs and there wouldnt have been any difference. do you even grasp that two choppers were searching throughout the night? dog handlers and mountain rescue personel? do you understand that? doesnt seem like that to me. doenst seem like you care. that goes hand in hand with the boombox and your lack of preparation. lack of care. arrogance.
I can just agree with this comment from Drzzlt. I expected some humbleness and respect at least at the end of the video, but no: you just summarize everything like as if it was a spoiled Disneyland trip.
you can consider yourselves lucky persons that you get experience you can use tell others or use another time... many people cant do this anymore... just few weeks ago there were one tourist not ready... he even made a short call to emergency services so they tried to find him... they did not until this day... if you were from Czech republic I am sure you would die there...
You made a lot of mistakes. Inadequate equipment, ignorance of the trail, poor estimation of the time needed to return, ignoring weather conditions. The most important thing is that you made it out alive. Now you will have an adventure story to tell your grandchildren.
The average "i know a shorter path" experience
I know the area quite well, the first main mistake was not turning back at Kôprovské sedlo or sooner given the weather, the other one would be not continuing on the former path between Závory and Ľaliové sedlo. Going straight along the creek the Tatras could be deadly, especially during storms as the water levels can suddenly rise many times and drown you. The creeks often have a lot of vegetation grown over them, many times trees fallen over making it really difficult to follow them, some forested areas are almost impossible to cross due to vegetation. The area you were in (Zadná Tichá) is known to be as far from civilization as it gets, so you usually don't get cell reception along the whole valley + encountering a bear there is very much a real possibility as the whole valley is an area with probably the highest number of brown bears in the Tatra mountains. Guys, next time if you encouter weather as you had that time, please, turn around. Needless to say, I´m glad you made it back alive, because had you got stuck somewhere in the forest near the pond in Zadná Tichá, even the mountain rescue service might not be able to find you (or your remains) for years, there have been quite a few cases like that...
Never underestimate the mountains.
I was recently in the Tatras myself for a four days self guided hike two weeks ago. I´m also in a search and rescue group back home in Norway. We see this a lot back home. Tourists going into the mountains without proper gear. I would question the packing job you did, and also the length of your planned hike for a starter. You know your abilities best however, but 26K may sound like an overestimation to me in the first place. My longest stage during my four days was 20K for a comparison. Bad weather, terrain and dark are serious threats on the mountains obviously, so those are serious reasons for precautios planning not to end up in a situation as you did. You did a thorough assessment on whether of the two paths you chose, and although you were considering many factors, you ended up with the wrong turn. When such happens, we have a set of mountain rules in Norway telling that it is no shame in admitting errors and turning back when a wrong turn is done. Furthermore, it is important to realize that you put rescue personell in an indirect risk who has to make tough risk assessments, and eventually go out looking for you in harsh conditions.
That said, you did some fairly good logical reasoning along your way and kept your spirits high, which is important in difficult times. Glad you made it back safely at last!
One last note, I do appreciate you guys not clickbaiting like so many youtubers and the video really does the title justice. Also, how was your insurance? Did they cover the rescue attempt? I mean the helicopter flying out must have been expensive af.
First, thanks very much for sharing the episode. Don't be offended by the harsh comments. Frankly, you needed to prepare for the challenge. The benefit for us all is to respect any high mountain, and that weather drastically can turn the pleasant walk into a hazardous situation. I'm sure you have improved your preparation skills after this episode. Finally, I'm glad you made it back alive. Cheers.
Guys, if u turned back on that footpath and went to Poland there was a shelter with hot soup and everything u could think about. mayby 2-3h from valentkove pleso. Going down into unknown when u were alredy exhausted, cold, wet, and hungry was a BIG mistake. You were also severely uneqiped. Aspecialy buddy in pink hoodie. Waterproof jacked and extra fleece sweatshirt in your backpack are a must in uncerten weather conditions.
You guys are lucky. The guy in the hoodie takes the top for underequipping himself. High Tatras are no joke, while small in area and not that high in elevation if you don't ascend the peaks, they can be super dangerous.
Good tutotial and could be called "What not to do in mountain". Josh with pink hoodie was not prepared enough for that trip, others a bit better. Where is wind proof vest? another layer of warm clothes? Not turning back (8:25), going short way instead of longer? How you can say that you made good decisions during trip (35:12)?
I am wondering what you had in your large backpacks.
Overall, good video. Thank you for sharing your stupidity as a warning for others.
Hi, i am from Slovakia. To hike the Tatras it requires a lot of preparation. Best if you first come for a smaller hike to get an idea. I have not made such an attempt as you to cross the Tatras, it’s actually an insane plan. The weather can change within minutes.... quite insane what you guys did here. You did not do your proper research at all so it seems.....
To be honest, your biggest mistake was choosing a trail you weren't sure about. Some of them have been closed for 50 or even 100 years, usually because they have become too dangerous for regular tourists. And if you're wondering why there are more polish wikipedia pages about the Tatras, it's because a lot more polish scientists were active there.
those who weather the storm are the greatest among us 🗣🗣🗣🗣
chad herbert
I'm shocked you survived that. I'm also very very glad you did. I have to say though - only bad decisions were made 😂 fortunately you were incredibly incredibly lucky to survive them all. we all make bad decisions sometimes, nobody knows everything. the best outcome is just having a dramatic and funny story and nothing worse :) interesting to see the other side of someone who got lost in such harsh conditions
Tatra Mountains are very accessible and fairly small but equaly deadly. Several people die each year there from exposure and falling. You were lucky.
tichá dolina is incredibly famous for that isn't it? :)
I'd genuinely be interested in an analysis of this by a very experienced mountaineer highlighting everything you guys did right and wrong
back when shiey did something far more dangerous (which kind of inspired us to visit this place): ruclips.net/video/wTq3E1hU4uQ/видео.html
this guy did a break down about everything he did wrong ruclips.net/video/GNMN4S0M_W4/видео.html
@@arnoldopomodoro well shiey knows what hes doing and you guys clearly dont
@@arnoldopomodoroTo be fair, he did have good weather, while you guys had the worst.
Josh wearing only his sweater that he also wears in the summer is fucking crazy
I'm just curious, what did you have in your backpacks? Because they look like 20-30 L and could fit a sleeping bag, a hard shell (at least for the hoodie guy), a down jacket and, most importantly, a TARP for the night, but I don't see any of that in the video
My thoughts exactly
Mine too. i would not go without lighweight cooker, food, shelter, down jacket etc. 26 km in the mountains is a long hike. cheers from Finland.
Throughout the entire video I was wondering what they had in those huge backpacks, they didn't have anything in it to cover the boy in the wet pink sweatshirt?
Hi, did you pay something for the rescue services? I heard that these services are no more free in Slovakia and thats why tourists insurance exists for these cases. Thanks.
We got brown bears in Slovakia but no Grizzly bears🐻🐻🐻
You should always turn back when the weather is not on your side, Tatras can be treacherous. Glad you made it back!
I'm just curious, how much did the rescue cost ?
when audio mixing
Oh let's do this in winter on ski 😊😂
I really cannot understand how u guys could make it this dangerous. Why didnt u guys brought a tarp with some rope so u could make a shelter. and a fire (yes u can make fires when its raining). Or why no small tent. also why no sleeping bag./ warm clothes. why didnt the pink dude had a rain jacket with him. i am a hiker myself and i speak from experience. I dont write this to give a shittalk but i just dont get why u guys didnt thought about the what if's. looked like all 3 of u didnt had any understanding of keeping alive in harsh conditions. I hope u learned from this and never get urself in a situation like this ever again.
we were equipped for a 3 week backpacking trip throughout europe during the summer, not a multi day hike in unpredictably cold weather. furthermore, while i agree precaution is always the necessary approach, in our eyes every extra bit of weight makes the hike much harder.
i did tell josh to bring more than a hoodie though lol.
I don't know how it is on the Slovak side, but on the Polish side in the Tatras you can't light a campfire or sleep wild in a tent/tarp, only in shelters. You can get a very high fine if you break this law.
@@arnoldopomodoro in the mountains, every hike should be treated as a potential multi-day trip in cold and wet weather even if the forecast is good.
its great that you take away some learnings from this experience but im missing the most obvious one. lack of preparation. you guys strolled in there with your shitty boombox as if its a walk in the park. yes the weather was harsher than predicted but you werent even prepared for the weather that was predicted in the first place. seriously, a hoody? sneakers for traversing snowfields, rockfields and hiking offtrack? "it wasnt meant to be like that" yeah no shite, thats what preparation is about. usually you ask yourself "what if we have to spend the night in the mountains" but you guys couldnt even be bothered to ask "what if there is rain" even though it has been predicted. why bother looking up forecasts then?
i really dont now what you guys were carrying in your packs. surely nothing to spend the night and apparently no other clothes or anything that would help you in literally any situation that you could face in the mountains. no food, no water, no warm layers, no spare clothes, no raingear, no shelter, no headtorch, no communication device. my backpack would be empty.
"we were equipped for a 3 week backpacking trip throughout europe during the summer, not a multi day hike in unpredictably cold weather. furthermore, while i agree precaution is always the necessary approach, in our eyes every extra bit of weight makes the hike much harder."
are you kidding me? if you are not prepared to take up the challenge of an alpine hiking path (white/blue/white) then dont fricking do it. just dont. otherwise what do you expect? no you dont agree that precaution is necessary. otherwise you wouldnt have been in this situation. you put wieght above safety but dont carry anything necessary for a hike? you could have hiked without the packs and there wouldnt have been any difference.
do you even grasp that two choppers were searching throughout the night? dog handlers and mountain rescue personel? do you understand that? doesnt seem like that to me. doenst seem like you care. that goes hand in hand with the boombox and your lack of preparation. lack of care. arrogance.
I can just agree with this comment from Drzzlt. I expected some humbleness and respect at least at the end of the video, but no: you just summarize everything like as if it was a spoiled Disneyland trip.
fk Im sorry you had to go through this.
whyd u waste the sim card on the non life threatening parts
insane comment
Super video 👍💪 pozdrawiam serdecznie 🖐️ hello from Poland 🇵🇱
maybe next time. don't give up
you can consider yourselves lucky persons that you get experience you can use tell others or use another time... many people cant do this anymore... just few weeks ago there were one tourist not ready... he even made a short call to emergency services so they tried to find him... they did not until this day...
if you were from Czech republic I am sure you would die there...
26:40 goes so hard
indeed impressive for such a loe chance of survival
Simple as that TATRAS ARE NO JOKE. Why people don’t understand that.
never trust alex on a hike
no luck all skill
Did u read off a script
Lol
You made a lot of mistakes. Inadequate equipment, ignorance of the trail, poor estimation of the time needed to return, ignoring weather conditions. The most important thing is that you made it out alive. Now you will have an adventure story to tell your grandchildren.
Typical unexperienced young males😅