I Bought a 2023 Chevy Colorado LT As My FIRST Truck! Here’s How It Compares to the Trail Boss?
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I hate those option packages. Often times you can't have certain options without having to get another option package then you end up getting some options you don't want or need.
thats why cars and trucks are so expensive now
@@FELiPES101 For real. The most egregious being if you wanted a base silverado with supercruise, it's basically a 40k dollar option to get you al the way to the High Country
In 2016, I was looking at the Canyon and wanted heated mirrors and 18-inch rims but didn't want all the technology that came with the "SLT" trim package. I wanted to be able to pick options one at a time instead of being bundled with junk I don't want or need. If I am paying for something, then I should get 100% of what I want, not 90% or 99% and I hate paying extra for features I don't want. It took me 7 years to find a Base Canyon at a decent price. One of the first things I did was go to a salvage yard and buy 4 SLT rims. They didn't tell me I couldn't put SLT rims on a Base Canyon. They sold me what I wanted without any problems, and I went back for some Denali dash panels.
Marcio seems like a fun guy, you guys should definitely go off road in the new trucks
One of the many things I genuinely like about TFL is how you truly connect with your viewing audience. And these real owner experience vids are great as it's easier to get a feel for how a vehicle performs day in and out.
Agreed. Some of the options like seat map pockets, visor extenders, rear folding arm rest, etc should all be standard (1 option). You would think this would save them engineering and manufacturing resources for little to no cost to the customers. The aux switch easily connects to accessories under the hood. Lights on the radio don't bother me but I agree the fog lights should be with the other lights.
With the amount of scale in their manufacturing, they aren't cutting these features to be cheap (because it's not cheap), they're doing it to force people into higher trim levels and to make those who spend an extra $30k not feel like they wasted their money.
I'm in the mid size market. It really is just a shame how Chevy decided to nickel and dime you to death with these packages and options on the new Colorado.
It really is disappointing to have to give up options entirely for the trim you want. LT? No 2 speed tcase. Trail Boss? Shit interior and no LED anything.
Z71? Lame stance and no lift.
Want everything? Bend over to the tune of 60K for (let's not forget) just a Colorado.
The highs are really high for this truck but the lows are exceptionally low.
GM, shame on you for ignoring the middle ground.
Andrey always talking about how his Trail Boss should have tons of standard features, but it's just a WT with some off road features. It's by no means meant to be a high end trim at all
Makes me hate Chevrolet that they didn’t include cruise control. Like how can you have a modern vehicle without it standard??? Feel bad for Andre in that sense, wonder how many other people are in a similar situation, forgetting to check the option since everyone would assume it is standard
Some things should be standard on every new car. Like cruise control. His truck literally has automatic braking, but its 500 dollars for the button to turn on cruise control. When even $20K cars come standard with it.
This LT doesn't come with cruise control standard either. It was optioned in.
@@bradythegenius2123 let’s be real, how many people do you know that actually use cruise control
@@MearMan123 literally every person I know. Idk people who don’t use it aside from someone that’s like a brand new driver
They configure the options packages like they do to borderline force you to get more than one.
I didn’t want the rear sliding window. But if I don’t want the rear sliding window then I don’t get cruise control. What kind of garbage is that?
@@Ornelas11B I have a base model 2018 GMC Sierra and that even has cruise control. Here I thought that cruise control was standard like power windows and A/C.
@@christophermcmichael880 apparently not at GM anymore. Next up is customized entertainment software which reportedly is not compatible w/AppleCarPlay AND Android... Haven't we been there already? Thought bet there will also be a subscription on that system as well.
@@genewind4850 It wouldn't even surprise me. As it is, if you have it, fortunately I don't and don't want it either, On star. You have to pay for it to have it in a vehicle. Then in top of that you have to pay God only knows how much a month to use it. I look at it this way. I've been driving long enough that I know that I don't need it. Didn't have it in my tractor trailer and did fine, I sure can do without it in a pickup truck. 😂
I love these types of comparisons, when it’s real owners, real consumers, comparing two different vehicles. I like seeing honest opinions about them.
Thank you for watching and the kind words.
@@andresmirnov3940 You’re welcome Andre.
I really like the new truck.
The LED headlights should be standard across the board. It's not 1987 and projectors are cheap as well as able to focus the beam without blinding every one.
Agree 💯. But if std Chevy wouldn't be able to chrg xtra for them. Some other mfgrs do the same as far as lights/LED.
There’s a 23 Colorado LT near me, sticker price of 46k. That’s a lot of money for a non off-road truck. GMC Canyon money.
thats also close to SIlverado money..
@@Veyronp87not a 2023 4x4 Silverado,,,but back in 2021 you COULD buy a Silverado Trail Boss with the 6.2 liter v8 for 49,500,,that same truck is 74k in 2023
I laugh about the Trailboss not having cruise control..I never use it on my truck at all even on long drives. I just don’t like it so it wouldn’t bother me at all not having it
I have it on my 2021ram1500 classic tradesman and I never use it it's standard on the tradesman go figure
I live in Wyoming and use cruise all the time. I am also thinking resale. Even if I didn't use it I would want it because many (if not most) people would not buy a vehicle with no CC. I want the net as wide as possible when selling my used vehicles.
Eye opener seeing how they screw you package options. Great video, thanks guys!
At my current job at AutoZone, we have two 2022 Chevy Colorado LT trucks, they are 2WD, and have the old 2.5L 4 cylinder , and are the extended cab with the longer bed, they are fleet vehicles, and we use them to deliver auto parts, they aren’t bad vehicles, they make great work trucks and I think Chevy made a nice job with the improvements for the 2023 based on what I have seen.
No more extended cabs is disappointing for me.
I need the longer bed.
Seems like they will be losing a lot of fleet sales as a result.
Loving all of these new Colorado videos Andre!!
The OLNY thing is that the Trail Boss should be like the top end truck why pay XX amount of 💰 if cruise control don’t came standard
@SCOTT WICK the top end is the ZR2. The Trail Boss is supposed to be the cheaper end off roader for people that don't need as many features
Congrats on the trucks guys. The new Colorado looks awesome. I really hope Chevy watches this video. Instead of being proud I hope they're embarrassed at all of the nickel and diming they're doing and all the shady things their dealers are doing to customers. When a 24k Kia/Hyndai has more features (most standard) for half the price its getting pathetic.
Nothing substantive or technical to add. But, while drinking my 2nd cup of coffee, I thoroughly enjoyed watching two guys talking about their new trucks. Love TFL!
I think if one is going to option an LT up to this level, the GMC makes more sense. It comes with more standard features, the 390 HP engine standard, and lifted suspension standard. I built one with similar options on the GMC site and I think I was around 44k. I thought it was a pretty good deal until I realized that it didn't have the two-speed transfer case, for that. You need to step up to the AT4 which puts you close to 50k, which at that point you want to think about the ZR2.
So basically go for the Canyon? I'm thinking about purchasing the LT in a few years
@@pingpongballz5998 honestly I think the Ranger is best in this class. You can get a 4x4 Ranger with rear e-locker and 2 speed t-case for around 40k, nobody else can touch that.
@trailrunnah8886 true. I guess I'm just waiting for the GM to work on the bugs on the Colorado. Not sure how reliable the Ranger is either
@@pingpongballz5998 fair point. I do think the GM trucks are the best looking by far, and for 49k (last time I looked) a base ZR2 seems like a good value.
@trailrunnah8886 ya the GM trucks are beautiful!
GM did an injustice to the Trail Boss. I assume they cheaped it out so people would buy the ZR2..honestly, the ZR2 looks nice but the Trail Boss looks way better. Option it out GM, Geezus.
That dark green is amazing.
I’m really liking these trucks. The Work Truck is very nicer for a basic vehicle and the ZR2 is cool, I really like the TrailBoss, LT, and Z71.
Easier to clean the wt. I don’t care for upholstery on the door
@@nogamblinge2671 I feel the same way. Carpets in any vehicle seems to be pointless when you have to bring in sand, mud, snow and salt if you live in those areas. It's a vehicle, not a home. Outside of the cost being like a home. A simple vacuuming then wiping with some cleaner and cloth, a nice clean floor again.
I am leaning towards buying ZR2 or ZR2 desert boss model trucks. I want tgw additional front locking differential. Plus on the desert Boss model zr2 I would get 5 drive modes. I live in northeast Tennessee a short 50 minute to 100 minute drive from many off road parks where I can drive on more challenging trails than the basic forestry and logging trails we have up on holston/ unaka and clinch mountains. I can go over off interstate 40 past cosby, TN and take that zr2 on hurricane creek trail that crosses hurricane creek in several different locations while traveling back north towards hot springs, nc.
We slso have horse creek trail located up by greenville,tn and dicks creek and dark hollow trails located by Erwin, TN. Then i want to travel down into snow creek by Andrew's and Murphy nc to drive on the many trails that go west into tellico plains,TN.
man the Trail Boss is a good value as far as hardware but its actually outrageous how many bog standard convenience features are stripped out of it. Extra for cruise control and sliding visors?? is this the 90s lol
I would drive the biggest shit box before I gave any dealer more than msrp.
Love the color as it's one of the harder ones to find. I might have to break down and custom order a ZR2 in that color as it seems GM is not making many in Harvest Bronze
44K for a "truck" and it doesn't come standard with a hitch and wiring? Shut the front door... What is wrong with Chevy? Why are people OK with this? Then, dude paid a 2k markup too? C'mon...
Andre's doesn't have cruise control and I will never get over that. I don't blame him one bit for not realizing during the process it wasn't a standard option and some box needed to get ticked. My base model 6 year old Honda Civic that was under 20k new has cruise control
Folks, do not pay mark ups on vehicles. These dealers need to know that we’re in charge, not them. Find a dealer that will sell you the truck at below MSRP.
Chevy’s features is confusing, they so picky and don’t to lose any pennies 😏😏
If driver seat is powered with these add on packages passenger seat should be as well, cost cutting again, thanks GM! Prior generation it was available for awhile I know with luxury package on the LT. I think in the Silverado you have to go up to LTZ to get powered front passenger seat. Should be offered in LT as well (my opinion).
Agreed. If the driver side has power seat so should the passenger side. It's be like getting a package with heated seats and only the driver has a heated seat. I better not say too much. It may come to that too eventually..
I can't for the life of me figure out why any manufacturer would continue to use incandescent bulbs in a vehicle. It really does not cost them any more to just put the same lights on all of them. Now they have to have two different kinds of product on hand when they build a vehicle. Also they should consider doing things the way that most Japanese manufacturers do on options. Typically they will have 3 or 4 trim levels and only a few options within those packages.
Chevy will eventually you stranded! Spend a little more a get the Tacoma
Fog lights should be called f*ck lights. I think people turn them on so we all see they have them- 10 km away .
Lol. Nothing is worse though then having low beams on and CONSTANTLY getting flashed by drivers to turn your high beams off. So annoying.
I would like to see TFL 2019 ford ranger drag race Andrea new Chevy Colorado
Marcio looks like Nathan in the thumbnail... I was like what?? Nathan hasn't owned a truck?
Is the new Colorado still tiny inside? Looking last year, only the Ridgeline was comfortable/big enough for me. (Coming from current gen full size Ram and Ford).
Oh.. and love the color of Roman's truck. The black wheels and accents set it off.❤
Seats are actually smaller
@Agent Carder the seats aren't smaller. I think you're referring to the 1" less in he back seat.... but from all the reviews and videos, it's because the seats are actually thicker (more push?).... so that is what took away from the space.
Ridgeline is the only midsized truck with comfortable rear seat space. This issue keeps me from buying any of the other offerings.
@@cs1992 you aren't looking for a truck. You're looking for a comfort suv vehicle. Which is why you didn't get a truck. You got a Ridgeline.
Surprised about some of those features not standard across the board. The sliding visor was standard on all Silverados. The pocket in the back of the seat. The cable holder on the tailgate. Really seems like those small things shouldn’t be assigned to option packages. I’m curious to see how Chevy responds with changed in 2024. Will they bring back at least a light switch? Standardize more features? I’m also not a fan of all screens, but many folks seem to like it. I don’t see them going away from that.
You would think cruise control would be STANDARD
Why do you need a light switch? They will come on when it needs to plus they come on when the wipers come on. So what's the problem 🤔
@@atg1338 Call me old school, but I would prefer actual buttons versus depending on a screen. My 20 year old Chevy was one of the first models with auto headlights, but I still turn the knob to turn on and off running lights, headlights, and fog lights when I want beyond the light sensor. I don't have to navigate through a screen. And the truck doesn't even have to be on either to turn the lights on. Similar thing with the AC and radio controls...especially when driving. Cars have had screens for awhile, but only a few before have had as many controls on their screens. I am also interested to see the reliability of those screens over time. I guess they don't overheat. Do they work with gloves on?
@@atg1338 Ever drive onto military base?
My gut tells me these are $35-40k trucks not $40-45K. I know times are changing but still. Nice trucks without talking money
I was kinda looking at getting a new colorado, but not now..
The reason windows do no have auto up is hazard of kids getting arms or heads caught in windows. Could you find out why the factory is building trucks but not shipping. My Z71 was built in early March but is in shipping lot but no info on why it hasn’t shipped as of May 5
It's FRIDAY 🎉🎉🎉......HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️
The three main things I had to have with my new Trail Boss,,,cruise control , towing package and that dampened tailgate with that storage in the tailgate,,everything else is perfect to me, I love the black plastic grill and plastic interior,, it’s granite med silver,, I payed cash for the Chevy rubber floor mats,and sprayed in bed liner,,,41,200
I also got the power seat 👍
21:15 all 4 windows up at once strikes me as a safety hazard for kids or adults with fingers out the window
uhaul has several choices for tow packages for the Colorado and canyons because my canyon didn't come with one either but I got the same dual 4 pin/7pin plugs along with a 8,000lb and 10k lb rated with the sway control receiver hitch installed for like $400-$450
People, please dont pay mark ups!!!
How does a 2023 vehicle have basic cruise control as a an option?
Great video guys, i really liked the comparison of the two trucks and off subject but i thought that ink on his arm of the millennium falcon was Awesome!!!!!
GM is the king of separating options that everyone wants that could be one package into 6 different packages
Yeah like cable TV packages too!😮
Packages are gimmicks. It is a way of gouging consumers into buying shit they don't want. It is also a way of manufactures to save $. Because if you wanted cruise control and no heated steering wheel and or no radio controls on the wheel, they would have to alter their production plants to accommodate individual requests. Which is too much $ for production costs. A friends mom is so fussy she argues and fights with sales people over these issues. As if they can control the corporation they work for. She wants heated seats but does not want to pay for the heated steering wheel in the package deal.(as an example) So she says, I don't care about that convenience and therefore I should not have to pay for it. In an ideal situation, I agree. I want an integrated garage door opener, but don't want the whole interior upgrade package with leather seats. But that just is not how the mass produced plants operate. I still maintain if one is that fussy, don't buy a mass produced vehicle and go find someone to build what you want to your specifications. Chances are, it will not cost as much or more than what one pays for what they don't want anyhow. 😉
As long as people are stupid enough to pay Dealer mark-ups the Shady dealer will gladly take your money.PEOPLE,STOP this insanity,leave the damn vehicle on the lot to rot and the mark-ups will go away and life will go on without the new vehicle for a few more months
Wow, cruise isn’t standard? That’s crazy. It’s 2023. You’d think then with that mentality they’d bring a manual transmission option for the W/T trim.
Why are manufacturers putting simple controls in the screen, the climate controls and heated/ventilated seats should be physical buttons, the headlights and lighting should be buttons or switches, the screen should only be for navigation and media.
Local dealer JUST got their first 23 Z71 and I swung by to look. What a great looking truck! Patiently awaiting my dune Z71 “in transit”…dealer had ordered it with the exact options I wanted, so put a deposit down on it! Great comparison video!
I take my dog with me and he stays in the back, with this truck there would be no room for him with the seat up. That plastic thing under the seat is worthless. My current F150 has a wide open floor with the seat folded up.
Both nice trucks. The major thing I'm not sold on is the lack of operation switches and forced use of the screen to turn on fog lights and other items? The extra dealer markups is a deal breaker for me! Glad we have a good relationship with our GMC and Toyota dealers. We still even get a few thousand dollars off the sticker. Greed is killing the auto/truck industry! PS, I live in northern Ohio.
I think the LT is the way to go for most people
All car companies needs to get rid of dealerships and follow the tesla style of selling cars. The markups by dealers should be outlawed.
Chevy is seriously manipulating the buyer with all the options on this truck. Not having that 75 cent piece that goes on the tailgate to raise it half up says everything you need to know about Chevy... Ridiculous.
45k he could spend 3 more and got all those options standard with lockers, DSSV, lift, skid plates and a nicer interior.
This just makes me look forward to the next gen Ranger even more... I think Marcio got the best color imo
Dealers still take advantage because people still buy with market adjustments. He said they charged 2 grand but he was ok with it. I would have walked out
I can't believe they added a mark up fee! They will end up like Ford with pissed off customers!
GM Please make a software update to add the fog light control in the lighting shortcut.
Can a person who is 190 cm tall and weighs 130 kg have a safe posture and drive?
Love the color on the LT
Millennium Falcon tattooed on his hand, what a badass!
The fender flares are a $100 option. I think he can still add them because I think it’s a dealer add.
No 4 low in the LT?
He is just embracing Colorado, bought a Colorado haha
Does the LT still have the G80 locker?
Awesome new trucks Chevy let's hope the used car market gets better next year.
@@2011buddylee That's fine for trade in. As for buying used not so much. I was at a dealership that I had bought my 2018 base truck. It was the same year, bed size and even just rear wheel drive, basically the same year as mine, the only difference was it had stickers on the bed that said Z71 off-road, I found it funny that it had those off-road stickers on a non four wheel drive. It had 37,000 miles on it and they were asking 27,000 dollars. I bought my truck in 2020 with 15,100 miles and paid a little over 19,000 and still had a year of Factor warrantee on it.
@@2011buddylee by used car market getting better - I think he meant pricing going down (not inflated values). Your truck going up in value is the exact opposite.
Andre really struck out with not getting cruise control. It’s a $375 option that includes rear sliding window and rear defogger.
I cant imagine not having cruise control on long trips. Especially when it only cost a few hundred bucks
@@aroncampos5720 It's crazy to me that stuff like cruise control and telescoping steering wheel are options. This stuff comes standard even on a Corolla. The new Ranger has much better standard features across the board - even LED headlights are standard on all trims, but I like the looks of the Colorado more. Just seems like they cheaped out big-time on some things.
The Nissan is all new, not old.. Would last much longer than this turbo chevy
Depends on how the driver uses it. These engines have 5 years in the Silverado. Go look up videos on what they put these engines through before you just assume. I'd take this engine over the dog of the v6 in the last generation.
How does that harvest bronze color look in person?? Better than silver or black those are my other 2 choices I’m on the fence about
You get gold flakes in the sunlight . Looks great. On a sunny day looks like a deep green , when not so sunny looks almost brown.
I think this color looks fantastic on the Colorado, but no much else. It's too much on the Silverado. I ordered it on my Colorado LT.
I have the 2023 Chevy Colorado LT, and that tailgate storage and under the rear seat storage is very limited. I have jumper cables stored in the tailgate. Under the rear seat, I wish I had more height to store a canvas tool bag, but no it doesn't fit. So, I'm seriously thinking of a truck cap. I had one on my Ford Ranger, and you have a wide height range of storage that's out of the weather. The problem with the cap, is the reduced gas mileage plus all that weight of stuff you continuously haul in a cap. And another disadvantage is keeping the front cap window clean and the rear cab window clean. And, if you can't keep the front of the bed exterior clean between the cab and the bed, that's the area where my old truck rusted, because you can't clean off that road salt in that area properly. I wish they could come out with a cleaning tool to clean this area, that will help in the long term in maintaining your truck from rusting in the rust belt states. I'm glad my LT doesn't have those wheel moldings, that's where the road salt accumulates too. I had exterior roof sunvisor on my ranger with the running lights, and I really loved the look, but people complained the roof began to leak ruining the roof liner. I had my Ranger for 21 years since new, I never had that problem, but I kept it resealed. The LEDs in the reverse tail lights were really great backing in or out of my 100' driveway near the woods at night. I drive strictly in town and the fist time I fueled up my 2023 Colorado LT, I only got 14.1 MPG. 14.1 MPG was a severe disappointment, but figured the engine needed broken in yet..
The trims and packages on these trucks just seems weird to me. Off road trail boss. No Led headlights. No fog lights period. No cruise control standard?. Lt with a tow mode but no hitch or trailer plug. I didn't know you could even buy trucks with no hitch or plugs. They don't want to have inventory on dealer lots anymore, But they want to make every little feature a box you have to check. Seems like a recipe for lots of unhappy owners. Seems almost impossible people won't end up overlooking features they wanted. Andre missed several options he would have liked to have including cruise control He has probably ordered and looked at more truck build sheets than 98% of truck buyers. You can tell he wants to like his truck, But he constantly says I wish it had this, maybe I can add that or I'd rather this be like that.
I need to stop watching these videos. I’m happy with my 17 ZR2, but the updated interior is nice. I typically keep new cars 10 years minimum, but Chevy might talk me out of more money sooner.
WTH!!?? How mad would you be to order a 4x4 truck that doesn't have 4low!!?? Thats really f'ed up.... super glad I didn't go with the chevy
This guy looks like Nathan’s cousin 😂
Seems a Z71 would have been a better deal. Mine was 47XXX and has 2 speed transfer case, black wheel flares, drive modes and a few more things. I got the harvest bronze like your.
Nice truck.
TFL, definitely, needs to bring back,
"Dude, I Love/Hate My New Truck"!!
I really appreciate hearing, first hand owners, opinions of their trucks! This is real world opinions!!
Marcio, is very honest and personable, and his very honest complaints about his truck, while obviously, not deal breakers, was refreshing!!!!
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Great rigs guys but my 2003 blazer zr2 has Cruise Control and different driving modes I have 1,2,3, and drive with overdive I mean come on lul jk
The prices I see of all these new generation mid size trucks makes me want to hug my 4WD 1999 Blazer with 111k miles AND cruise control.
I have most of the buttons. There’s no telling how long I will have it, or what will happen, but I’ve never had manual seat controls, etc. fail. I had another, second-hand, truck with wonky window controls and iffy cruise control (sorry, Andre) switch. That Chevy 2500 was 21 years old when I parted with it, I hope my 22 holds up that well.
Im about to purchase one of these , any updates?
I'm a little disappointed in Chevy with these little omissions. Can't wait to see how the new Ranger compares. Hey Andre, who has the best, in-depth review of the overseas Ranger available now?
I don't think it was a coincidence that Chevy's packages are so inconvenient. Inconvenient enough to make you think "ah screw it, what's another couple of grand for all the stuff I want".
Those weird option packages would piss me off so much that í‘d end up buying a different truck 🤨
The options game is rigged for maximum profit. I can't understand why Andre didn't option cruise control for his truck. That's just a must in this day...
Market adjustment on an LT! I ordered a ZR2 and dealer letting me use my Supplier discount. I guess if people are willing to pay it, so be it
The badges are too high needs to be lower like before
You guys must both have a heavy foot. Im averaging 24mpg with a peak of 26mpg for my z71
I would say they dont allow you to roll all 4 windows up at once for safety reasons. This way you (should) look to clear each window before rolling it up.
Yeah it feels like GM could actually save money on these vehicles sticking to one part for a lot of things that are options instead of having to have two different variants of certain parts. There has to be some bean counter that thinks these options just bring in more money.
Crazy that there was a mark up. This guy got robbed by those dealer.
Does this years Colorado (trail boss, specifically) have any under seat/bench storage in the backseat?
Wtf mark up on a ordered truck that's not fair 😑 charging extra unbelievable 😳
That Colorado LT has a single speed transfer case which doesn’t come with 4Low but Andre’s Colorado Trail Boss has a normal 2 speed transfer case with an auto 4wd engagement function, not awd. You can option up to get a 2 speed transfer case but I believe the Trail Boss and Z71 and of course the ZR2 comes standard with it.
I hope Tacoma comes through, FYI I currently have a 2018 Colorado
All manufacturers are sneaky devils. I love the custom silverado, but it lacks audio controls and bucket seats.
Do u regret your purchase with the trail boss ? As the 3rd tier model you’d think you’d get more options.
.22 seconds Chevy colrrrrrrrrrrr LT. 😜
The reverse nickel and diming some manufacturer's do bu cutting even the littlest conveniences is super annoying.