DreamBlaster S2 World Premiere - Smallest and cheapest Wavetable Module

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024

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  • @philscomputerlab
    @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +42

    Guys, what a privilege that we can announce the launch of the DreamBlaster S2 Wavetable Module :)
    We've got over an hour of MIDI recordings in this video, I tried to find a good range of tunes, hope you guys enjoy them!

    • @phreeze83
      @phreeze83 7 лет назад +3

      and this time you got the #1 badge ;)

    • @cookingwithdavid5169
      @cookingwithdavid5169 7 лет назад +2

      PhilsComputerLab very cool Phil. I'm glad you're enthusiastic about midi. It's great. You seem just as addicted as me! probably even more so than me, which is great cuz I love your videos! great work once again! Dave

    • @GiSWiG
      @GiSWiG 7 лет назад +1

      How do you have it hooked up to work in Windows 10?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      The same shop sells a wavetable MIDI adapter. You also need a USB MIDI interface though.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      That MIDI Player is really good.

  • @vulturius7664
    @vulturius7664 7 лет назад +14

    Glad to see Belgium makes some quality stuff! Can't you tell I am from Belgium too :-)
    I own a S1 and I love it!

  • @mbe102
    @mbe102 7 лет назад +7

    I find stuff like this to be exceptionally nifty! So very cool. Thanks for sharing Phil.

  • @MatSpeedle
    @MatSpeedle 7 лет назад +4

    Great video thanks Phil, I've recently built a P3 retro gaming pc and your videos and resources on your website have helped me a great deal so thanks for that. I've been trying to get my old AWE64 to work but alas found it dead and had to resort to my old ESS Audiodrive I got back in '96. I was just about to spend a small fortune on a replacement AWE64 but after doing a LOT of research on the VOGONS forum and then finding this video I've decided to purchase this S2 for my little ESS Audiodrive instead, which by all accounts is a massively underrated card and has a wavetable header. So thanks again for saving me some money, looking forward to testing this little gem with my games :)

    • @4aaaayyyyyaaaaaa6eaaa20
      @4aaaayyyyyaaaaaa6eaaa20 10 месяцев назад

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  • @tocsa120ls
    @tocsa120ls 7 лет назад +12

    Man I was a Gravis Ultrasound owner but this sounds _clean_ !

  • @roguenova6766
    @roguenova6766 6 лет назад +3

    This vid has helped me make up my mind about buying this module last December - thank you!
    It's like a modern-day EMU8K: the affordable and decent-sounding entry-level all rounder, but with much better drum samples :P

  • @AshtonCoolman
    @AshtonCoolman 7 лет назад +3

    It sounds as good as my X1! This is very impressive. Everybody that's into the retro PC scene should pick up an S2 or X2 at this point.

  • @ThrakaAndy
    @ThrakaAndy 7 лет назад +4

    So great to see so much midi love these days.

  • @dizzym9554
    @dizzym9554 7 лет назад +7

    I wasn't sold until I heard the Descent 2 one. I'm usually pretty steadfast in preferring FM synth to most cheap wavetable solutions (I have an AWE that I never run in AWE mode...) but I have *never* heard the descent 2 title music sound that good

  • @cradledani
    @cradledani 7 лет назад +2

    This definitely produces some amazing music, that's for sure. A couple songs weren't quite right, but some were mind-blowingly great. I think it's worth the price for sure.

  • @YesterPlay
    @YesterPlay 7 лет назад +2

    This actually sounds pretty nice, considering the price tag. I'll check my supplies in the basement for a sound card with wavetable connector, if I find one I'll get one of those. The SB 128 PCI that's currently working in my retro pc doesn't have such a connector.

  • @Ridata01
    @Ridata01 7 лет назад +2

    wow you got a ATC-6631-Yamaha , same as mine, can i ask where did you get the DOS drivers ? what file and version ?

  • @colinellett
    @colinellett 7 лет назад

    I have an XR385 attached to my card and I still love this. Ordered one today!!

  • @VampiresCrypt
    @VampiresCrypt 7 лет назад +13

    15:20 for DOOM :D

  • @darklinggolem
    @darklinggolem 6 лет назад +2

    The Dream sam2695 Is very Popular in the Karaoke Market. TJ Media is one of the companies that are using that midi module

  • @chrissingleton6029
    @chrissingleton6029 3 года назад +2

    Where'd you get these MIDI files from? Is there an archive somewhere?

  • @georgewarren8814
    @georgewarren8814 7 лет назад +1

    Very cool Phil! DO you have the midi tracks in a list? Is that something you can provide or is there copyright issues?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      The list is on the screen in the video, that's the best I can do :)

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 7 лет назад

    These are pretty good for what they are! I've previously used the SAM2195 evaluation board internally in an ST to get built in MIDI. This looks like a good candidate for use there too, but there's no amp onboard so I guess the audio output might need amplifying if used inside an ST. That said, the volume level output might not be dissimilar to what the YM chip outputs on the ST.

  • @Null_Experis
    @Null_Experis 7 лет назад +1

    I'm surprised that you didn't include the Monkey Island 2 intro. That's like the gold standard for for midi benchmarks.
    Quest for Glory 4 also has some great GM tracks that would have showed a lot of the breadth of this device too.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +1

      DNSDies Not General Midi, uses MT-32 and I don't want to get people's hopes up.

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 7 лет назад +7

    Wow @ System Shock music there - I thought the standard AWE32 / 64 output was good =O

    • @WR3ND
      @WR3ND 5 лет назад

      56:24 Indeed! :D

  • @KATODmusic
    @KATODmusic 7 лет назад

    Nice stuff :) Are drums sounds simmilar to S1 module or differs?
    (seems very comparable to me).

  • @magnum333
    @magnum333 7 лет назад +1

    Hey Phil, interesting little device. Forgive my ignorance but, when is it useful? Let's suppose I already have a SC-55. I guess it is useful for games that don't support general midi, right? Thanks.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +3

      Well the SC-55 is a great device, no doubt. It's external though, so if you're looking for a value internal wavetable header the S2 fits that criteria.

    • @magnum333
      @magnum333 7 лет назад +3

      Thanks for clarifying! Maybe some day I'll buy one, for testing mostly. More videos about how wavetable headers work would be interesting ;-)

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +3

      Hmm ok good idea. Might be something for a Tuesday video :)

    • @armorgeddon
      @armorgeddon 7 лет назад +2

      Cool, but don't forget to make clear that the Waveblaster-connection is analog. Back when I bought my SCB-55 I somehow thought that it was a digital connection and therefor might sound better than connecting an external SC-55 via line-in.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +2

      That's odd, I have never heard anyone consider it being digital.

  • @dabombinablemi6188
    @dabombinablemi6188 7 лет назад +1

    I really should repair my old ES Audiodrive card for one of these, because that+DreamBlaster S2+MIDI keyboard would add another use for the DOS gaming machine my Mum wants me to build (and allow her to create more complex midi files for her electronic organ, which uses a FDD for MIDI files).

  • @enilenis
    @enilenis 7 лет назад

    Phil, since this board doesn't appear to have a USB interface, I am assuming the soundbank is non-interchangeable like on the X2. Is that correct?

  • @42ccb
    @42ccb 7 лет назад +1

    Final Fantasy VII? I did not expect to see it here.

  • @zosxavius
    @zosxavius 5 лет назад

    This sounds great TBH. Very clean. I think this sounds better than an AWE32 or GUS.
    That said, I still think DOSBOX with soundfonts or munt is superior sounding at this point. I prefer emulating consoles for a lot of the same reasons quite honestly. If you like running on original hardware though this is the way to go.

  • @VampiresCrypt
    @VampiresCrypt 7 лет назад +4

    33:35 I must say that FF7 sounds schockingly different on the PC than it does on the PS1 :/

    • @RonOverdrive
      @RonOverdrive 6 лет назад +4

      Its the difference in sound fonts and how they're used. Personally I think the Roland SC-55 sounds the closest at least with the FF7 music to the PSX and I feel it sounds better over all even though this DreamBlaster S2 is better on paper due to the quality of the sound samples. The SC-55, however, does cost 2 - 4x as much so considering that this is still a decent alternative to playing with emulators and big brand name midi devices.
      Also keep in mind FF7 for the PC was originally bundled with the Yamaha XG software synth just to get close to the actual sound on the PSX without forcing people to buy proper midi synths to avoid using the crappy built in sound fonts Microsoft provided.

    • @zosxavius
      @zosxavius 5 лет назад

      @@RonOverdrive I honestly expected it to sound radically different and was surprised it sounded fairly close. I think they targeted a GM instrument set so with the exact samples used on the PSX it would probably sound identical. Its likely they used an XG module to compose it to begin with which is probably why it sounds close.

  • @brostenen
    @brostenen 7 лет назад +1

    Awesomme. Slight difference. Not that much though. I just wonder, when some chinese seller put it up on eBay at 3x price, when still avaliable at the official site. Just check out eBay and S1.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      I couldn't find anything on eBay.

    • @brostenen
      @brostenen 7 лет назад

      PhilsComputerLab I think it was double the price for an S1, back when the limited was released. It was a seller in China. Now I only see X2's from spain. They are not that expensive compared to what that chinese seller asked. I was actually referring to when we might see them at artificially inflated prices.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      I see, thanks!

  • @rd946
    @rd946 7 лет назад +1

    Hey, Phil! How about a video on getting Windows 3.1 to run on MS-DOS 7, for those who still play some Windows 3.1 games but can't start it with the most recent DOS versions...

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      Windows 3.1 doesn't interest me at all I'm afraid. Are than any interesting games that only work under 3.1?

    • @rd946
      @rd946 7 лет назад

      Ah, not really. Just Windows 3.1 versions of DOS titles, like SIMEarth, SimCity 2000, and Civilisation. Unless you want to count the multitude of Windows 3.1 Entertainment Pack "mini" games that were released! I wonder if multi-booting different versions of DOS is at all possible... Something for me to research!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      Let me know if you find a hidden gem :)

    • @logipilot
      @logipilot 4 года назад

      @@philscomputerlab virtual valerie 2

  • @Ikkepop
    @Ikkepop 4 года назад +1

    no canyon.mid or passport.mid ? :(

  • @khawk2012
    @khawk2012 3 года назад

    Phill. I have a question.. this card can be placed in a sound card. But I love my sound fonts. Is there a card that can load the sound fonts (sf2) somehow but be able to be used on a Korg NS5R which the capability to add a daughter board? There are software VSTs out there but haven't seen a good one other than the one am using on my phone called sound font midi player app..

    • @khawk2012
      @khawk2012 3 года назад

      @@drasglaf2333 well. What I was thinking is a home made box that can turn on sound cards without a computer but able to use multiple cards at one time. More like a stack of cards that can be selected as synths... but yes the dream blaster is awesome..

    • @khawk2012
      @khawk2012 3 года назад +1

      @@drasglaf2333 ok thanks. It was just a thought..

  • @Habbababba
    @Habbababba 7 лет назад +1

    Phil this is awesome!

  • @42ccb
    @42ccb 7 лет назад +5

    Mmm, music from Final Fantasy VII sound like original PS1 version, but have better quality.

    • @zosxavius
      @zosxavius 5 лет назад

      Yeah I was surprised at how close the PSX soundfonts they used are to general midi, but it probably makes sense since they likely composed the soundtrack in GM and used a closely matching soundfont on PSX. The SNES really changed how video game music was made. Before instruments were basically fixed sounds and suddenly you could have any sound you wanted. Seems like most stuff was just composed for GM and that became basically a standard on a whole other level. Its a lot easier to just grab a box of crayons and start drawing vs mixing every individual color.

  • @tolgahk84
    @tolgahk84 4 года назад

    For some reason the FF7 theme kind of sound's off to me. Perhaps it was due to me playing it on the Original Playstation, but then again FF7 was originally made for the Playstation's hardware in mind and then later ported over to the PC which may explain why the music kind of sounds off.

  • @alvaroacwellan9051
    @alvaroacwellan9051 7 лет назад

    On the thumbnail this S2 looks just like one cell of the classic periodic table. What element it might be...?

  • @Kithop
    @Kithop 7 лет назад

    Not sure here, but I think you had the gain on the recording too hot - System Shock's intro sounds very clipped/distorted at the top to me.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      Nope I checked that carefully with this and other loud clips.

  • @epicpotatofiend
    @epicpotatofiend 7 лет назад +1

    I might pop this on the SB16 in my Pentium Pro machine.

  • @georgewarren8814
    @georgewarren8814 7 лет назад +1

    Also, what player are you using?

  • @aiogre
    @aiogre 4 года назад +1

    Mine is being shipped!

  • @genericgreensquid6669
    @genericgreensquid6669 7 лет назад

    Hmm... Are there any new PCI sound cards compatible with DOS/9X? Or are most integrated sound cards on socket 478 motherboards compatible? SoundBlaster cards are not common in my country and I don't really want to pay a lot of money for a soundblaster.

    • @swiftfox3461
      @swiftfox3461 7 лет назад +1

      Generic Green Squid Which Sound Blasters are you interested in and what country are you from? I may be able to help you get them cheaper if you're up for it (and assuming that it actually *is* cheaper that way). Let me know in a reply if you want to get in touch.

    • @genericgreensquid6669
      @genericgreensquid6669 7 лет назад

      +Swift Fox Thank you for the offer, but I'm not going for an old Soundblaster.

    • @genericgreensquid6669
      @genericgreensquid6669 7 лет назад

      +Raletia I'm not looking for an old card. I'm looking for a card I can buy *new* for PCI.

    • @RodBeauvex
      @RodBeauvex 4 года назад

      Try to get an ESS Maestro, which Phil has reviewed.

  • @jacobew2000
    @jacobew2000 11 месяцев назад

    Where can we get this in the USA?

  • @ITzTravelInTime
    @ITzTravelInTime 7 лет назад +4

    i'd like to hear how it sung with the secret of monkey island

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +2

      General MIDI wasn't supported, only Roland MT-32, so I couldn't use that tune.

  • @KR2XD
    @KR2XD 7 лет назад

    How do you extract the MIDI music for DOS games? I would love to get the MIDI songs out of Lucasarts classic Star Wars games.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +1

      You can capture the MIDI stream with another computer, or using DOSBox. But I just download them, they are readily available.

    • @systemuhr
      @systemuhr 4 года назад +1

      a lots of orginal midi soundtracks you will find here www.mirsoft.info/gamemids-archive.php the rips are already available for you to download

  • @thierrykurt3867
    @thierrykurt3867 6 лет назад

    Exelent ! , its posible to share the compilation of midi? thanksss

  • @Heiduuuuu
    @Heiduuuuu 7 лет назад

    I have a modern system with a pretty good soundcard. Is there a midi PCI interface you could recommend that would compliment it? Thank you.

    • @nimeq
      @nimeq 7 лет назад +1

      MIDI is more a connection standard than anything else. You can get pretty decent USB to MIDI dongles these days for really cheap. MIDI is essentially a single direction serial port.
      Wavetable synthesizers like the dreamblaster are pretty effortless to do in software on modern systems. They're of more interest in performance limited cases, like old computers.
      So your question is a bit strange. Not to mention PCI is becoming quite rare in modern systems having been replaced by PCI Express quite a while back.

    • @tohopes
      @tohopes 7 лет назад

      If you're going to get a USB-MIDI adapter, I recommend splurging on the Roland one. I tried a cheaper one and I seem to remember it failing to transmit certain sysex messages.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +1

      You will need a USB MIDI adapter and from the same shop the external wavetable Chill board.

  • @nitroraptor5316
    @nitroraptor5316 3 года назад

    Could you do the Crystal Blaster C1?

  • @Heru3005
    @Heru3005 7 лет назад

    Obviously its not the greatest wavetable board but taking the price into consideration you really can't beat it.

  • @chriskalkman3815
    @chriskalkman3815 7 лет назад +1

    Any way we can get a copy of those files?

    • @phreeze83
      @phreeze83 7 лет назад

      i think they integrated in the chip, if you mean the midi-instruments.

    • @cookingwithdavid5169
      @cookingwithdavid5169 7 лет назад +2

      Jigo no he means the midi files I'm guessing

  • @williamwilliam9993
    @williamwilliam9993 4 года назад

    What is the song at 1:05:54

  • @bobsteave1236
    @bobsteave1236 2 года назад

    guys can anyone link more playlist like this that have "the best of " midi from this era? A guy and spend hours looking for good jams for this midi set up. Maybe even a good forum / blog / site that has some pre discovered gems like these songs on the surface

  • @SteveM000100
    @SteveM000100 7 лет назад +1

    Easiest hour long video you ever made, am I right? :D

  • @WR3ND
    @WR3ND 7 лет назад

    Nice. I put it on the surround sound hi-fi. Really like the clean and punchy percussion and rhythm bass with the more classic other instrument sounds. Might have to pick this up as an option for my CT2230. Thanks for the demo. :)

  • @tohopes
    @tohopes 7 лет назад

    Why is the Privateer music so nostalgic?

  • @slipangle3027
    @slipangle3027 7 лет назад

    Will this work with my Aureal Vortex 2?

  • @ThrakaAndy
    @ThrakaAndy 7 лет назад

    The things Phil gets up to at 5:30 in the morning...

  • @MasterControl90original
    @MasterControl90original 7 лет назад

    it sounds good to me, not realistic samples, but good retro-like

  • @Nico93
    @Nico93 7 лет назад

    wil it work on the awe64 to?

    • @nelizmastr
      @nelizmastr 7 лет назад +6

      Did you watch the video? He clearly pointed that out ;)

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +2

      Yes but you need that adapter shown and link in the description.

  • @gregorstange3529
    @gregorstange3529 7 лет назад

    Playlist?

  • @SireSquish
    @SireSquish 7 лет назад

    What would you gain by adding an external wavetable to an Awe64 gold though?

    • @SireSquish
      @SireSquish 7 лет назад +2

      Also your choice in playlist is sublime.

    • @phreeze83
      @phreeze83 7 лет назад +3

      midi in dosgames without any special configs

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +1

      In pure DOS the AWE doesn't really have General MIDI. This would add General MIDI option.

    • @SireSquish
      @SireSquish 7 лет назад

      Ahh, right. So what benefit does that give? I thought the wavetable worked regardless. I guess my memory has faded a bit in that respect since I don't recall needing to do anything in particular (aside from selecting SB16/AWE32 in configs) with the AWE32. I didn't load any soundfonts though (only had the 512KB onboard, nothing in the SIMM slots.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      With the AWE64 you can select AWE option in many games. Doom, Duke 3D, Descent, they all support it. But Creative chose not to support the GM / MPU401 standard directly. I really wish they had, the AWE64 Gold would have been a killer retro card! Imagine loading SF2 soundfonts in DOS and it just works? What a shame.

  • @retropctech2407
    @retropctech2407 7 лет назад +1

    instead of Ultima 8 you should have used the intro of Ultima 6 :)

    • @tohopes
      @tohopes 7 лет назад

      Ultima VI had Roland LA as an option, but not General MIDI, which is what these daughter boards expect.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад

      Yes, like tohopes states, a LOT of MIDI files are from games that didn't support General MIDI. They will sound off unless you have a Roland MT-32 for example.

  • @cappaculla
    @cappaculla 7 лет назад +1

    It's OK, but won't be throwing out my Roland SC-7

  • @DearHoney_1996
    @DearHoney_1996 4 года назад

    Descent.mid seems not good enough, main melody is too soft.

  • @eldontyrellcorp
    @eldontyrellcorp 4 года назад

    Hello !
    I bought this card but I cannot get any game to output music. I tried a lot of games (doom1, doom2, ...) and none of them are working. I tried waveblaster or general midi in the setup application but no luck until now :( very very disappointed with this card... This is a joke.

  • @TheLemminkainen
    @TheLemminkainen 7 лет назад

    that sound card has bad cap

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 6 лет назад +1

    DOOD!

  • @WednesdayMan
    @WednesdayMan 7 лет назад +1

    use this with doom.

  • @AmysFantasies
    @AmysFantasies 7 лет назад

    Wow, got to agree with the people not liking the sound of this. I especially can't get over how terrible the Opening ~ Bombing Mission theme from Final Fantasy VII sounds compared to the PlayStation original. I'm familiar with a few other here as well (such as Doom and Day of the Tentacle) and I'd take OPL3 synthesis over this any day. It's easier to get working and sounds at least as good overall.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  7 лет назад +1

      With FF7 it could be a poor MIDI composition. I'm not familiar with that game, but someone else mentioned it. Regarding Doom and DOTT, well we just got to agree to disagree :)

  • @Diwwah
    @Diwwah 7 лет назад +7

    It doesn't sound very good to me.

    • @rebeccaschade3987
      @rebeccaschade3987 7 лет назад +3

      If you grew up listening to FM synthesis in games, you'd probably feel different. Although, today, for some reason, OPL3 is very much in fashion. I don't remember anyone liking it back in the days, but today it's become the "cool" thing. Go figure.

    • @Diwwah
      @Diwwah 7 лет назад +2

      I did grow up with FM synthesis mostly. But then I got a Yamaha DB50XG around 1997. This sounds considerably worse to me than that, or a Roland SC-55. OPL3 always sounded terrible to me.

    • @rebeccaschade3987
      @rebeccaschade3987 7 лет назад +1

      Yes, XG does sound a fair bit better, at least in games (or with midi files) that take full advantage of the XG features. I used to have a Yamaha Waveforce 192XG in my K6-2 300 back in the days, and it sounded great. It was similar to DB50XG in terms of "soundfont". Generic Yamaha 2MB XG bank. Still have the card as a matter of fact. But for GM in DOS games, the Dreamblaster sounds fantastic compared to OPL2/3. I still prefer my GUS in games that support it though.

    • @WR3ND
      @WR3ND 7 лет назад +1

      OPL3 is great, even Game Blaster sound is great to my liking - it's how old games and midis like this are "supposed to sound," because it's what us old timers remember from what we had or heard as kids and teens in the late '80s and early '90s. Even loved some of that old NES music both then and now.
      The MT-32, though it sounds great, isn't really my style. It sounds kind of off to me, maybe having to do with the "uncanny valley," or maybe sounding too much like professional synthesizer music of the time and less like midis.
      This is a nice wavetable board with a little bit of a different sound to it. Think I might have to pick this up for a try and to mix things up now and then. Great to have it as a convenient hardware option.

  • @charly2kx
    @charly2kx 4 года назад

    Privateer songs sounds awful :-/

  • @modlabs
    @modlabs 7 лет назад +2

    I don't like it at all.

  • @jort93z
    @jort93z 7 лет назад +2

    i might get that to play around with on my arduino. though its a little unfortunate that there is no version without the header. that'll make it either quite a mess to wire to the breadboard or i desolder the original header. but expecially for the price its a great option.