1:51 Actually all rear cameras can burst at 30 fps (Hi+) and 20 fps with HDR, both I believe are world's first for a smartphone. Come to think of it, I think Sony's the first as well for focus breathing compensation on the Xperia 1 IV as well. 8:54 Cinema Pro isn't meant for "spontaneous shooting", that's what Video Pro is for.
Many reviews misunderstand how to use CinemaPro app, and this is one of them. The app is meant for a project based workflow, meaning that it's much more structured than shooting a vlog, for example. That's what videopro is for. S-Cinetone isn't in Cinema Pro because it has the Venice CS profile in it.
Sony is an underrated but they make good quality phones which are ideal for those kinds of people who want the best of the best from camera to the video quality is unmatched ❤️
It's nice that GSM Arena has added this video, not extensive but nice all the same. I am pretty pleased with my Xperia I V so far, getting the WH-1000 XM5 as part of the preorder was very nice 😎
@@rafadobrzyk9699 yes, you use basic mode for pictures and videos. The phone sets everything up for you. Only when you switch the camera settings or use Video Pro App do you have the more in depth features
Rack focus definitely needs to be added to the video pro app, I can't count the times when I needed it and it could've been extremely useful for me. Cinema pro is such a different system with such a hugely different output that it doesn't work as a substitute. And we finally need to get a couple of other features and bugs fixed: - Clipping zebras. - The ability to enable features that need another feature turned off first (maybe allow us to do this after displaying a message that says "warning: this function will turn off" instead of having them greyed out). - Sony needs to finally fix the infinity manual focus bug where if you switch lenses while you have manually set your focus to infinity, it'll default like 1/5th of the bar lower. - PLEASE fix the RAW file softness as well as the EXTREMELY problematic color rings that appear in low light RAW scenarios on all lenses, I know for a fact that's an issue coming from their vignetting removal solution that for some reason applies to the RAWs too. - An RGB histogram. - The upgrade on the telephoto and ultrawide sensors we desperately need. There's a lot more, but all of these are great upgrades for the next generation.
I am not sure raw softness is a problem, when i shoot raw, i want the information, what the sensor sees. If the pictures are soft, it should be fixed by the user since its raw... And can you elaborate about the ring? The other comments i agree with!
What does this mean in camera descriprion "Resolution 52 MP (Full aspect) / 48 MP (Effective) / 12 MP (Still image recording)". Only 12 MP will be available in the camera settings?
Funny thing is VideoPro takes better video than CinemaPro now. But that's because CinemaPro is a legacy app from fromer Xperia team and the new team didn't improve upon it at all. Instead they continue to develop VideoPro
Man I'm currently using Sony 1 ii, And I would say the photos are great and you can push it to peak levels, but it falls short when shooting videos. I had an LG phone and it could shoot better videos than the current one I'm having. This is not that below average but definitely not upto the level of its hype. I saw few video samples of sony 1 v and i kind ah feel the same. Unless you have good accessories to support the camera division like gimble, it failed to fully convince me to get one
One more thing is the camera sensor in xperia 1ii is small 1.7", macro shot with 1ii is bad and lack of details. I think pro-i will take better photos I have Xperia 1 ii too if I want to upgrade I will go for pro-i
@@RamlyJer Do you think there's a huge margin of improvement in camera division in 1 v compared to 1 ii. Not sure if pro-i offers the same overall experience that 1 ii or 1 v provides
Sony makes my favorite cameras, and definitely feel like I can take the best smartphone pictures with the Xperia phones, having said that I know how to handle a mirrorless camera, I wouldn't recommend this kind of phone to regular users that just want to point and click and get decent pictures... What I'm trying to say is, I'm glad that companies like Sony create options for a very specific demographic, buying and Xperia phone is more like buying a small mirrorless camera with a smartphone integrated to it and not the other way around, is like buying a camera accessory.
Cinepro and Videopro lack the particular 50 setting shutter speed feature of CameraPro to cancel out electric light flicker, thus making filming in many artificially lit scenes a no-no.
CinemaPro app development has strayed away after original Xperia 1. Many intended features have not been implemented because new team went into developing VideoPro app. They didn't even fix N/A color setting which boosts contrast a lot and thus crushes blacks easily. Actually they havent ported VideoPro output qualityu to CinemaPro. If you shoot both in the same scene and with the same settings such as framerate, shutter speed, white balance, dynamic range mode, hlg you will notice the difference in image quality right away. CinemaPro is just inferior even when in Venice CS or N/A mode.
I used to brag about 0:32 iPhone cameras and Samsung cameras. After so many years and looking at the new iPhones and Samsungs, it's really overrated cameras. I don't even like how auto mode is. Especially since I started a business, I can easily tell the difference in quality when I upload it on the internet.
Yes, but they won't turn out as nice as on a high-end iPhone or Samsung. The phone uses rather plain, uninteresting defaults and almost expects you to edit the photos yourself if you want an image to "pop". Sometimes the auto mode makes weird choices and I had to put it on another mode to change it myself. The auto-mode isn't bad, but I wouldn't recommend this phone if you mostly point-and-shoot. You must have a desire to play around with it to get pleasing results. You will be disappointed if you expect this phone to shoot good and interesting pics on auto.
4:38 this is backwards.. the shot at night that has visible purple/blue tint in shadows is HLG... don't use HLG on this phone, it looks good on your phone ONLY, and horrible everywhere else
This obviously, unless you reallly, REALLY like apple's color processing or you need a gadget as status symbol(at least where im from) then this phone is better every single way besides shooting auto
Can GSM Arena please PLEASE bring back Angie or get another lady reviewer?! I respect that this guy is a hard worker, but give him a partner again. A nice lady is pleasant to listen to. Plus variety was nice. Didn't there used to be multiple reviewers?
Incase you missed the announcement video, Angie had abandoned GSMArena a year ago from now. She openly talked about why. Ladies are also not into in depth tech stuff packed with particular information so it's unlikely anyone is going to submit appliance at GSMArena.
As long as your sensor is capable of 12mp and above, you shouldn't really care too much. 12mp means your camera can record in 4k and your images have plenty of detail. There are phones out there like the S23 Ultra with its 200mp-capable sensor, but unless you're printing massive pictures, you don't need even a fraction of that. After a point you enter diminishing returns, with huge file sizes you don't even need.
@@iPhonenaireYou can stick to the basic/auto mode in photo pro and stick to auto in video pro as well. Don't be intimidated, Sony will allow you to have it as simple or as complex as you want and feel comfortable with
The auto modes in the photo pro version of the 1 V have over-exposure issues, this is true. It'll probably be adjusted with a future update. That being said, hop into programme auto, toggle HDR and set the exposure to -1 stop. Voila.
@@anecro This is what its about. I keep reading about this phone and its nitpicked issues and often someone suggest a solution. Sure taking any picture will take you much longer and you have a steep learning curve but there is a chance that whatever picture youre aiming to take can be done with some adjustment.. maybe.. I still havent decided if i want to buy it but i like this aproach. I wonder if since its android worse case you could just download some other camera app?
I tried iphone and Samsung cameras, the quality is not as advertised, i even printed out the images, its really jpeg quality. Try watching people that know how to use this camers features....i can give you $10k camera and you will still take worse pictures than pixel 6a....its about the user not just the camera.
Part of the reason their screens are 21:9. You have space for both menus and your viewfinder. This is an anti-criticism, more phones should follow their lead here as having options hidden away in a folder-like setup while the viewfinder is overlapping with them makes for a very finicky and poor experience, I wasn't a fan of it on any phone from different brands I ever owned.
@@anecroso true, people are so brainwashed that low quality features like that are normal to them, they want to criticize the features that actually make sense.
Confusing because it's different? I disagree, I apprentice Sony for not copying the iOS-style camera app like pretty much any other Android-OEM does with slight alterations. Everything that's different requires time to get used to in order to not be confusing anymore. I would actually prefer to have these apps on Samsung as opposed to the convoluted app they provide
@@marasion0862agreed... Ive been using old xperia devices.. And switch to other android. And guess what? I don't like the set up on other androids the color, even the display 😂and I came back to 1iv and it feels home. 😂😂 My friends always tells me while using my old xperia "the heck the display on your phone is like a TV" . 😁..
Why is it so hard to learn about features that actually make a difference? It's not social media filters. Sony features are professional features, it will benefit you more than TikTok filters, that is what iPhone and Samsung camera features look like, it's childish, no different than social media app filters.
SHOW HOW BRIGHT IS CAMERA LED BULB!!! COMPARE! SHOW TEMPERATURE! COMPARE! SHOW BRIGHT SUNNY DAY SHOOTING!! COMPARE! WE DONT GIVE A FUCK MEGAPIXELS OR COLOR ACCURACY OR DETAIL!
1:51 Actually all rear cameras can burst at 30 fps (Hi+) and 20 fps with HDR, both I believe are world's first for a smartphone. Come to think of it, I think Sony's the first as well for focus breathing compensation on the Xperia 1 IV as well.
8:54 Cinema Pro isn't meant for "spontaneous shooting", that's what Video Pro is for.
I was about to post the same about 30 fps burst! Please correct that, GSMArena team!
Many reviews misunderstand how to use CinemaPro app, and this is one of them. The app is meant for a project based workflow, meaning that it's much more structured than shooting a vlog, for example. That's what videopro is for.
S-Cinetone isn't in Cinema Pro because it has the Venice CS profile in it.
thats carp phone thats it was watching those super previews after i both it i so that is only screen is good and jack thats it
Sony is an underrated but they make good quality phones which are ideal for those kinds of people who want the best of the best from camera to the video quality is unmatched ❤️
It's nice that GSM Arena has added this video, not extensive but nice all the same.
I am pretty pleased with my Xperia I V so far, getting the WH-1000 XM5 as part of the preorder was very nice 😎
can you take normal photos and videos with this phone with automatic settings?
@@rafadobrzyk9699 yes, you use basic mode for pictures and videos. The phone sets everything up for you.
Only when you switch the camera settings or use Video Pro App do you have the more in depth features
@@rafadobrzyk9699yes it has basic mode and it works like other phones.
@@rafadobrzyk9699of course
Rack focus definitely needs to be added to the video pro app, I can't count the times when I needed it and it could've been extremely useful for me. Cinema pro is such a different system with such a hugely different output that it doesn't work as a substitute.
And we finally need to get a couple of other features and bugs fixed:
- Clipping zebras.
- The ability to enable features that need another feature turned off first (maybe allow us to do this after displaying a message that says "warning: this function will turn off" instead of having them greyed out).
- Sony needs to finally fix the infinity manual focus bug where if you switch lenses while you have manually set your focus to infinity, it'll default like 1/5th of the bar lower.
- PLEASE fix the RAW file softness as well as the EXTREMELY problematic color rings that appear in low light RAW scenarios on all lenses, I know for a fact that's an issue coming from their vignetting removal solution that for some reason applies to the RAWs too.
- An RGB histogram.
- The upgrade on the telephoto and ultrawide sensors we desperately need.
There's a lot more, but all of these are great upgrades for the next generation.
I am not sure raw softness is a problem, when i shoot raw, i want the information, what the sensor sees. If the pictures are soft, it should be fixed by the user since its raw... And can you elaborate about the ring?
The other comments i agree with!
... I really dig the format of this video.
Nice and a bit convoluted apps, but the result "leaves a lot to be desired", especially the dynamic range...
*This is the best phone in a camera!*
What does this mean in camera descriprion "Resolution 52 MP (Full aspect) / 48 MP (Effective) / 12 MP (Still image recording)". Only 12 MP will be available in the camera settings?
Cinema mode and "spontaneous shooting" are not compatible. One is meant to make cinema-worthy shorts. These are not done on the fly.
Funny thing is VideoPro takes better video than CinemaPro now. But that's because CinemaPro is a legacy app from fromer Xperia team and the new team didn't improve upon it at all. Instead they continue to develop VideoPro
i m your big fan bro
Is it gonna save shot instantly like apple for example in point and shoot, or it has that lag from shoot to save like samsung?
I don't understand the 90 % of the features, but I'm still watching 😂 . Ig his voice is soothing to listen.
Man I'm currently using Sony 1 ii,
And I would say the photos are great and you can push it to peak levels, but it falls short when shooting videos. I had an LG phone and it could shoot better videos than the current one I'm having. This is not that below average but definitely not upto the level of its hype. I saw few video samples of sony 1 v and i kind ah feel the same. Unless you have good accessories to support the camera division like gimble, it failed to fully convince me to get one
LG , at least latests use hdr10.
Sony does not. Only type of HDR is HLG.
Basic mode does single frame SDR ( unlike iphone that has mult as default)
One more thing is the camera sensor in xperia 1ii is small 1.7", macro shot with 1ii is bad and lack of details. I think pro-i will take better photos
I have Xperia 1 ii too if I want to upgrade I will go for pro-i
@@RamlyJer Do you think there's a huge margin of improvement in camera division in 1 v compared to 1 ii. Not sure if pro-i offers the same overall experience that 1 ii or 1 v provides
@@OmarSS87 that's acceptable in 1 ii model. Is it still the same in 1 v model as well? If so they need to do serious upgrades
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Sony makes my favorite cameras, and definitely feel like I can take the best smartphone pictures with the Xperia phones, having said that I know how to handle a mirrorless camera, I wouldn't recommend this kind of phone to regular users that just want to point and click and get decent pictures... What I'm trying to say is, I'm glad that companies like Sony create options for a very specific demographic, buying and Xperia phone is more like buying a small mirrorless camera with a smartphone integrated to it and not the other way around, is like buying a camera accessory.
Hey gsma any chance you could do a roundup of recent smaller handsets? Tired of carrying round these giant bricks.
Cinepro and Videopro lack the particular 50 setting shutter speed feature of CameraPro to cancel out electric light flicker, thus making filming in many artificially lit scenes a no-no.
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I think that videos can be better if use of ND filter that are wildely available for smartphones
Very tempting
CinemaPro app development has strayed away after original Xperia 1. Many intended features have not been implemented because new team went into developing VideoPro app. They didn't even fix N/A color setting which boosts contrast a lot and thus crushes blacks easily. Actually they havent ported VideoPro output qualityu to CinemaPro. If you shoot both in the same scene and with the same settings such as framerate, shutter speed, white balance, dynamic range mode, hlg you will notice the difference in image quality right away. CinemaPro is just inferior even when in Venice CS or N/A mode.
THERE ARE A TON OF 3RD PARTY ND FILTERS FOR THE XPERIA...They work WELL
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How much mobile price in UAE
I thought the video was going to be recorded all in 21:9 aspect ratio
Best phone ever, love Sony!!!
❤❤❤ looking forward 😁
can you take photo or video with full screen display ?
Yes. 21:9
1 v is a beast but the price they selling it for , i would rather buy an s23 ultra 😢
Sony + ZEISS 🔥
Steve jobs use to admire sony
If Steve jobs was alive, iPhone would look like Xperia
Hi does this record video at 60FPS when using Optical zoom? Thanks
4K 120 fps is available on all lenses, so yes.
Sony phones are literally meant for photography and videography enthusiasts.
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Totally, LIT 👍
Where is the Pixel Fold review?
I used to brag about 0:32 iPhone cameras and Samsung cameras. After so many years and looking at the new iPhones and Samsungs, it's really overrated cameras. I don't even like how auto mode is. Especially since I started a business, I can easily tell the difference in quality when I upload it on the internet.
Can you shoot in Raw?
Only photos. No video.
Single frame, no multi exposure.
No processing like iphone " raw"
"why does it look pixelated.."
-me watching on 360p
Imagine if 360p was on big TV
Which ND filters could we get that actually work with the phone?
Bought a 67mm ND filter and corresponding bracket - benefit is you can use on regular camera as well. Not sure why they say there are no ND filters.
@@b3l14l5 what bracket?
@@b3l14l5 mind posting a link to the one you bought?
can you take normal photos and videos with this phone with automatic settings?
Yes, but they won't turn out as nice as on a high-end iPhone or Samsung. The phone uses rather plain, uninteresting defaults and almost expects you to edit the photos yourself if you want an image to "pop". Sometimes the auto mode makes weird choices and I had to put it on another mode to change it myself.
The auto-mode isn't bad, but I wouldn't recommend this phone if you mostly point-and-shoot. You must have a desire to play around with it to get pleasing results. You will be disappointed if you expect this phone to shoot good and interesting pics on auto.
Thank You @@gamebuster800
4:38 this is backwards.. the shot at night that has visible purple/blue tint in shadows is HLG... don't use HLG on this phone, it looks good on your phone ONLY, and horrible everywhere else
Smartphones require interchangeable lens to take full advantage of these features.
Thix or iphone 11 camera wise
This obviously, unless you reallly, REALLY like apple's color processing or you need a gadget as status symbol(at least where im from) then this phone is better every single way besides shooting auto
Wow 😲😲😲
Can you make a video of sunrise and sunset to see the quality please. That is what i would want it for
Can GSM Arena please PLEASE bring back Angie or get another lady reviewer?! I respect that this guy is a hard worker, but give him a partner again. A nice lady is pleasant to listen to. Plus variety was nice. Didn't there used to be multiple reviewers?
Incase you missed the announcement video, Angie had abandoned GSMArena a year ago from now. She openly talked about why. Ladies are also not into in depth tech stuff packed with particular information so it's unlikely anyone is going to submit appliance at GSMArena.
@@distar7471 Thanks for the heads up. But there are some female tech fans out there. Like Jacklyn from NothingButTech.
Does video pro app has 4k 60fps with hdr ?
4K@24 , 25, 30, 60, 120.
Single frame, mult. HDR or SDR.
Sony HDR is HLG only, no dolby nor hdr10
That's why Sony Xperia is better than Apple and Samsung
the problem of sony are prices
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The Leatherman of Smartphone(s).
2023 flagship showdown?
I don't understand anything about cameras. All I know are megapixels 😅 I personally won't be using those million features
Megapixels don't actually mean a lot to the end result and overall quality you will be getting.
@@marasion0862 Sony is too "pro" for me. I'm used to the basics
As long as your sensor is capable of 12mp and above, you shouldn't really care too much. 12mp means your camera can record in 4k and your images have plenty of detail.
There are phones out there like the S23 Ultra with its 200mp-capable sensor, but unless you're printing massive pictures, you don't need even a fraction of that. After a point you enter diminishing returns, with huge file sizes you don't even need.
@@iPhonenaireYou can stick to the basic/auto mode in photo pro and stick to auto in video pro as well. Don't be intimidated, Sony will allow you to have it as simple or as complex as you want and feel comfortable with
It's not rocket science to learn about technology people love to use. It won't hurt to learn.
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Sony, The only photographers camera on the market. The rest are over saturated point and shoots for dummies.
Bloody expensive
It still has crappy HDR it's like you are taking a photo with a midrange not a 1200$ phone.
There are options to adjust the dynamic range ...
The auto modes in the photo pro version of the 1 V have over-exposure issues, this is true. It'll probably be adjusted with a future update.
That being said, hop into programme auto, toggle HDR and set the exposure to -1 stop. Voila.
@@anecro This is what its about. I keep reading about this phone and its nitpicked issues and often someone suggest a solution. Sure taking any picture will take you much longer and you have a steep learning curve but there is a chance that whatever picture youre aiming to take can be done with some adjustment.. maybe..
I still havent decided if i want to buy it but i like this aproach.
I wonder if since its android worse case you could just download some other camera app?
I tried iphone and Samsung cameras, the quality is not as advertised, i even printed out the images, its really jpeg quality. Try watching people that know how to use this camers features....i can give you $10k camera and you will still take worse pictures than pixel 6a....its about the user not just the camera.
Honestly sony is just too expensive. Id rather get an s23 ultra. No mmwave on sony.
S23 Ultra is almost the same MSRP as the Xperia 1 V ...
@@marasion0862 no it's not. The s23 ultra is $200 cheaper and has more features and better cameras.
Too much of the screen is taken up by the different types of functions
It's better that way than to have the functions in submenus. It allows you to directly see any changes you make.
Part of the reason their screens are 21:9. You have space for both menus and your viewfinder. This is an anti-criticism, more phones should follow their lead here as having options hidden away in a folder-like setup while the viewfinder is overlapping with them makes for a very finicky and poor experience, I wasn't a fan of it on any phone from different brands I ever owned.
@@anecroso true, people are so brainwashed that low quality features like that are normal to them, they want to criticize the features that actually make sense.
Typical Sony: outstanding hardware, confusing software. Same story the professional (and consumer) cameras.
Confusing because it's different?
I disagree, I apprentice Sony for not copying the iOS-style camera app like pretty much any other Android-OEM does with slight alterations.
Everything that's different requires time to get used to in order to not be confusing anymore. I would actually prefer to have these apps on Samsung as opposed to the convoluted app they provide
@@marasion0862agreed... Ive been using old xperia devices.. And switch to other android. And guess what? I don't like the set up on other androids the color, even the display 😂and I came back to 1iv and it feels home. 😂😂
My friends always tells me while using my old xperia "the heck the display on your phone is like a TV" . 😁..
@@marasion0862 reinventing an evidently "worse" wheel isn't necessarily a great idea. Still, Sony deserves credits for trying.
Why is it so hard to learn about features that actually make a difference? It's not social media filters. Sony features are professional features, it will benefit you more than TikTok filters, that is what iPhone and Samsung camera features look like, it's childish, no different than social media app filters.
Hi Sony can you make all this features simple...... And all in one place...... People love simple.
Simple is hard.
use BASIC mode
People need to learn or just buy iphone, it has Sony camera with iPhone filters
SHOW HOW BRIGHT IS CAMERA LED BULB!!! COMPARE! SHOW TEMPERATURE! COMPARE! SHOW BRIGHT SUNNY DAY SHOOTING!! COMPARE! WE DONT GIVE A FUCK MEGAPIXELS OR COLOR ACCURACY OR DETAIL!
Nobody gives a fuck about how bright the LED gets, lmfao. Gtfo