What many people do not realize as well is that in the US, if you’re in a federal prison then you are required to work a job or you will be placed in solitary confinement. Working prisoners are also paid well below minimum wage, and are a cheap source of labor for many US companies.
And mass incarceration is super expensive plus extremely damaging to the the families/communities without much benefits. Most people come out of prison more damaged than when they went in which seems to be a feature and not a bug 😕
Would love it if we could all sympathize a little with the attitude that writing or even just learning about wrongs to be corrected is a relaxing thing. It’s a lot more relaxing than doing nothing, you should learn that as fast as you can.
I think Daily Show deleted my comment where I pointed out that Ta-Nehisi Coates disparaged the victims and first responders of 9/11, calling them not human, and that he felt nothing during that tragic day.
Loved the interview. But I think it doesn't happen exclusively in the U.S., though. Other countries, such as Brazil, also experience systemic racism. Mass incarcerarion of black people is also a matter of discussion here.
You are correct, but one can only speak to the American expierence, being from America, and the willingness to fill the void left from American slavery. But, I am quite sure Trevor knows being from Aparthied South Africa. Also injustice antwhere is injustice everywhere.
@@jamietodd1341 watch the video again, he says "but mass incarcerarion is uniquely American" (4:09) and that's what I'm talking about. But anyway, you guys are right, he speaks to the American experience.
America incarceration-FLAWED JUSTICE SYSTEM ⚖ 😢 💩😔💔😡🤔 another profound interview Trevor thanks to Mr. Coates for sharing his knowledge and unpacking the issues! Blessings to you both🙏🏽💙🙏🏽
That fool introduced himself as a sell proclaimed genius? Any intelligent person is aware that genius is a relative term. To consider oneself as a "genius" is extremely short sighted. Pride before destruction.
Texas wants me to take a felony plea deal and I’m innocent. What should I do when all I have is a public defender, who doesn’t seem to get why I would rather fight then lay down for these 2 years of paper.
@@davidgarcia8343 unlawful possession of a firearm. It’s registered to my brother. I was driving his car. It was wedged between the iron tracks of the passenger seat. I was driving and had no idea. Unfortunately my brother wasn’t in the car when I was stopped for speeding. Now there offering me two years deferred probation or face 10yrs in prison. My past felony was a Dui case.
@@DjDeadHomie why doesn’t open carry apply? I thought you didn’t need a license to carry a weapon. What was the probable cause for them to not just give you a ticket?
Well...your FIRST mistake is living in Texas...really...Texas??? That's the worst state ever when it comes to being 'fair and just'. You are legally allowed to ask for a different public defender, one that's on your side and you trust, if not, then you can ask for another one, but, that will delay your case. Or, you could continue your case, and file a motion citing the 6th amendment, which guarantees effective assistance of counsel, if you feel your attorney was incompetent, but, you must be able to PROVE that...just because you don't like him...doesn't count. I would highly suggest you contact the ACLU in your state, they should be able to help you, or a least ask them for a referral. But, I need WAY more information. By the way, I just subscribed to your channel.
@@DjDeadHomie Remember that the public defender (especially in Texas) is likely overwhelmed, struggling to handle dozens of cases. They legitimately CANNOT afford for most of their cases to go to court. They need cases resolved quickly and easily. As others have noted, if you want to replace them, that's possible. You could also highlight that, if your case is as simple as you affirm, that it should be relatively easy to prove in court that you cannot be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt: have the officers testify (or cite from their report) how long it took them to find the gun, have your brother testify that he did not tell you there was a gun in the car, and then ask the judge/jury "would a reasonable person spend X amount of time searching a vehicle loaned to them by a friend or relative, in search of a weapon they didn't know existed? No." If you can get your brother and the officer there on the same day, it shouldn't be more than a couple hours.
No no no no. It's working as intended. It's a cheap labor camp meant to keep you in a frame of mind that when you are released. The odds of your return are highly likely. It's not there the rehabilitate you. It's there as a privately owned manufacturing plant. Some prisons can charge the state for having empty cells.
Here's how I think it works, and none of it is racist: person born to a poor family or neighborhood, with more housing than jobs. Because of the addled tax infrastructure and heavy reliance on commuted incomes to businesses that do not contribute to improving the neighborhoods outside of the local tax district; the poor community's resource pool is largely based on state and federal minimum support program fund allocations. This hypothetical person is left with few employment prospects to build their identity around. Their personal growth outlets revolve around low cost investments, such as singing, physical fitness and art projects. The most lucrative professions commonly surrounding them are bottom feeder duties, such as parasitic theft of resource, or dealing in post consumer goods, or acting as a support element to a larger network of production. All of those professions have a high likelihood of consuming their most valuable resource (time) while giving back barely enough to get by (if they can be so lucky). The stress is high and the rewards are diminutive. As disparities become steeper, the benefits of theft outweigh the risks. People from poverty upbringings are just as human as anybody else; they're clever and figure out how things work. A logical portion of people seeking personal progress will turn to crime, since it is the best return for their investment according to their surroundings. So logically, either from stress unloading, crime, association and influence from such people or the resulting profiled assumptions of law enforcement; this poor person is likely to end up in prison. Upon release, the US labor force is inclined to punish them after the fact that they have served their time and paid their debt to society. Those barriers mixed with previous lack of support and options create a high liklihood of recidivism. Again, this system is not racist; it is prejudist against the poor. That said... Economic prosperity is a private class. There's no way to create wealth out of nothing, it must come from somebody. It is the nature of capitalism that nobody can be rich unless somebody else is poor; since the means of production are wielded by the private sector, those companies decide how steep the disparities are, since they pay the wages. Those too are generally not racist... But they used to be. That locked most members of certain communities into a societal trap. So, that is why, even though the system isn't racist, it is perpetuating clearly racist treatment.
The shapes of freedom it takes in people minds those that exploit it an commit crimes and those that enforce it to the highest degree you can get locked up for the pettiest crime
Judgement, in turn Acceptance, are fallacies because one is informed and functions under a unique Gold Standard birthed amongst varying blends of cultures and religions, not a vacuum🎈
@@JGold-cu5mo Really. Maybe you need to say it out loud. Especially the part where it says that slavery is abolished....drum roll... EXCEPT for prisoners duly convicted.
How someone can describe slavery, in a nation where its legal, and NOT actually call it slavery is a conundrum. There's a reason we have the largest prison population on earth. From convict leasing till today, same practices and crimes against humanity. Call it what the constitution calls it. Slavery. Stop making up crazy words like "unfree".
He will probably never read this, but his Captain America & Black Panther (comics) runs were both great even though all the other white men my age at my local comic shop hated it.
How does that effect you buddy? As Trevor has stated, South Africa had plenty of the problems that we do. The difference is they recognize the issues and work to correct them.
Grateful for Trevor’s work, for helping so many people hear important voices like Mr. Coates.
@A P I’m embarrassed for you.
Trevor with a shaved head looks so weird everytime I see it now.
Lol true. He looks like the old Trevor
@@shansg9978 It is old Trevor
@@gaminglegend That's what I thought, the studio is different too.
I was about to call 911 to demand Trevor's hair back until I saw the original air date was 2015.
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me too, yo!! me too!!! 😅😅😅
What many people do not realize as well is that in the US, if you’re in a federal prison then you are required to work a job or you will be placed in solitary confinement. Working prisoners are also paid well below minimum wage, and are a cheap source of labor for many US companies.
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Yes.
cool
Thanks for reposting this interview. I can’t believe it’s been 6 years.
Love to see an hour long version of this interview
Sound levels y'all. Great interview otherwise, just hard to hear
It's an on-going problem that has been mentioned many times and has not been addressed.
No kidding. I was listening to this in the car and had to turn it off cuz I couldn't hear anything.
@@nedludd7622 Exactly.
And mass incarceration is super expensive plus extremely damaging to the the families/communities without much benefits. Most people come out of prison more damaged than when they went in which seems to be a feature and not a bug 😕
Absolutely
This guy speaks nothing but facts.
Yeah………no
Brahahahahahahahahaha! 🤡
All of you watching check out Ta-Naheisi’s excellent book Between the World and Me. It is a tour de force
Would love it if we could all sympathize a little with the attitude that writing or even just learning about wrongs to be corrected is a relaxing thing. It’s a lot more relaxing than doing nothing, you should learn that as fast as you can.
I think Daily Show deleted my comment where I pointed out that Ta-Nehisi Coates disparaged the victims and first responders of 9/11, calling them not human, and that he felt nothing during that tragic day.
Loved the interview. But I think it doesn't happen exclusively in the U.S., though. Other countries, such as Brazil, also experience systemic racism. Mass incarcerarion of black people is also a matter of discussion here.
You are correct, but one can only speak to the American expierence, being from America, and the willingness to fill the void left from American slavery. But, I am quite sure Trevor knows being from Aparthied South Africa. Also injustice antwhere is injustice everywhere.
He says in the interview that it's not a uniquely American event. Lol
@@jamietodd1341 watch the video again, he says "but mass incarcerarion is uniquely American" (4:09) and that's what I'm talking about. But anyway, you guys are right, he speaks to the American experience.
That doesn't make it right. We can only address American policies.
His Black Panther run for Marvel comics is so great!!!
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Now there'll be at least one comment that says Trevor without afro looks weird
Nah, he's not looking weird but I kind of miss the cute afro and the sweaters ...
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@@Barbayat79 yeah, sweaters and jackets were a happy medium between suits and hoodies
i'm just sad that trevor cut that beautiful hair.
Don't worry, it's from 2015
This is old I think lol
Now what will Cuomo have to grab onto?
America incarceration-FLAWED JUSTICE SYSTEM ⚖ 😢 💩😔💔😡🤔 another profound interview Trevor thanks to Mr. Coates for sharing his knowledge and unpacking the issues! Blessings to you both🙏🏽💙🙏🏽
Trevor being starstuck is awesome :)
Ava DuVernay spoke about this in her award winning documentary: 13th
Brilliant documentary.
@@aiLOVEcrypto Absolutely
Thank you TNC because your books are circulating in the prisons as we speak.
His Captain America run was not so bad, but loved his Black Panther run.
Oh, this is 2015.
Thanks, description.
That fool introduced himself as a sell proclaimed genius? Any intelligent person is aware that genius is a relative term. To consider oneself as a "genius" is extremely short sighted. Pride before destruction.
Why?
Texas wants me to take a felony plea deal and I’m innocent. What should I do when all I have is a public defender, who doesn’t seem to get why I would rather fight then lay down for these 2 years of paper.
What does Texas say you did?
@@davidgarcia8343 unlawful possession of a firearm. It’s registered to my brother. I was driving his car. It was wedged between the iron tracks of the passenger seat. I was driving and had no idea. Unfortunately my brother wasn’t in the car when I was stopped for speeding. Now there offering me two years deferred probation or face 10yrs in prison. My past felony was a Dui case.
@@DjDeadHomie why doesn’t open carry apply? I thought you didn’t need a license to carry a weapon. What was the probable cause for them to not just give you a ticket?
Well...your FIRST mistake is living in Texas...really...Texas??? That's the worst state ever when it comes to being 'fair and just'.
You are legally allowed to ask for a different public defender, one that's on your side and you trust, if not, then you can ask for another one, but, that will delay your case.
Or, you could continue your case, and file a motion citing the 6th amendment, which guarantees effective assistance of counsel, if you feel your attorney was incompetent, but, you must be able to PROVE that...just because you don't like him...doesn't count.
I would highly suggest you contact the ACLU in your state, they should be able to help you, or a least ask them for a referral.
But, I need WAY more information.
By the way, I just subscribed to your channel.
@@DjDeadHomie Remember that the public defender (especially in Texas) is likely overwhelmed, struggling to handle dozens of cases. They legitimately CANNOT afford for most of their cases to go to court. They need cases resolved quickly and easily. As others have noted, if you want to replace them, that's possible.
You could also highlight that, if your case is as simple as you affirm, that it should be relatively easy to prove in court that you cannot be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt: have the officers testify (or cite from their report) how long it took them to find the gun, have your brother testify that he did not tell you there was a gun in the car, and then ask the judge/jury "would a reasonable person spend X amount of time searching a vehicle loaned to them by a friend or relative, in search of a weapon they didn't know existed? No."
If you can get your brother and the officer there on the same day, it shouldn't be more than a couple hours.
He seems like a smart guy and is quite equitable in his approach.
Flawed?....... "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" .......is flawed. The American justice system is broken
No no no no. It's working as intended. It's a cheap labor camp meant to keep you in a frame of mind that when you are released. The odds of your return are highly likely. It's not there the rehabilitate you. It's there as a privately owned manufacturing plant. Some prisons can charge the state for having empty cells.
It's slavery.
That's literally all it is.
Here's how I think it works, and none of it is racist: person born to a poor family or neighborhood, with more housing than jobs. Because of the addled tax infrastructure and heavy reliance on commuted incomes to businesses that do not contribute to improving the neighborhoods outside of the local tax district; the poor community's resource pool is largely based on state and federal minimum support program fund allocations. This hypothetical person is left with few employment prospects to build their identity around. Their personal growth outlets revolve around low cost investments, such as singing, physical fitness and art projects. The most lucrative professions commonly surrounding them are bottom feeder duties, such as parasitic theft of resource, or dealing in post consumer goods, or acting as a support element to a larger network of production. All of those professions have a high likelihood of consuming their most valuable resource (time) while giving back barely enough to get by (if they can be so lucky). The stress is high and the rewards are diminutive. As disparities become steeper, the benefits of theft outweigh the risks. People from poverty upbringings are just as human as anybody else; they're clever and figure out how things work. A logical portion of people seeking personal progress will turn to crime, since it is the best return for their investment according to their surroundings. So logically, either from stress unloading, crime, association and influence from such people or the resulting profiled assumptions of law enforcement; this poor person is likely to end up in prison.
Upon release, the US labor force is inclined to punish them after the fact that they have served their time and paid their debt to society. Those barriers mixed with previous lack of support and options create a high liklihood of recidivism. Again, this system is not racist; it is prejudist against the poor.
That said...
Economic prosperity is a private class. There's no way to create wealth out of nothing, it must come from somebody. It is the nature of capitalism that nobody can be rich unless somebody else is poor; since the means of production are wielded by the private sector, those companies decide how steep the disparities are, since they pay the wages. Those too are generally not racist... But they used to be. That locked most members of certain communities into a societal trap.
So, that is why, even though the system isn't racist, it is perpetuating clearly racist treatment.
@@sirdeadlock The system is absolutely racist, the Racism is baked into it. Everything you said about economics is a function of systemic racism.
@@itcouldbelupus2842 Yes, that was my closing point.
excellent interview! Mr. Coates is so well spoken
He is the writer of the new Superman movie.
Really? I didn't know this. Wow I completely unaware
What's wrong with daily show sound .. Trevor if u got hearing problem don't include us just turn volume up
That one dislike is sus 🧐
The shapes of freedom it takes in people minds those that exploit it an commit crimes and those that enforce it to the highest degree you can get locked up for the pettiest crime
"it's easy to regret that now" yeah I mean it's not like other people were warning him that it was going to be a bad idea
Truth matters! 👍🏾👍🏾
Industrial prison complex drives it.
Yes, something that is unthinkable of here in Germany and other, especially norhtern European countries.
you don't have a sound engineer for the production of such show? All the recent videos are so low in audio levels, fix it!
Trevor!! Someone stole your hair! Before winter no less. You're gonna need a hat!!
1555 we were put into slavery by the Spanish and the jews.
A mouth that speaks only the facts is so nice to hear.
Why is there no notification that this an interview from 6 years ago? Seems like a lazy way to keep the show alive.
That room is called the YRNF convention
😐😒 I can't believe they got this fool writing Superman
Finally back in the studio with guests and audience…
Nooooo Treeeeeeeeeeeeeeevaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Not the fro!!!!!
You can really see his smooth brain
Trevor Noah doesn't really understand yet
Over 67,000 views and only 1,800 likes. Hmm
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🔥🔥🔥
They know they just don't care
They were both bald, now their hair is long 🙌🏾
Sad reality
Judgement, in turn Acceptance, are fallacies because one is informed and functions under a unique Gold Standard birthed amongst varying blends of cultures and religions, not a vacuum🎈
Ben Shapiro, Thomas Sowell, any intellectual on the right would destroy this clown.
Why?
Imagine the audience laughing at that response to the question “do you hate black people?”
WHO SHAVED TREVOR????
Eh.
Take out everyone in for possession and balance returns to the Force.
Crime Bill is not a boogie man
I don't trust this guy's judgement any more since he compared Jordan Peterson to Red Skull.
same here
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Indeed
Got that right
@@user-615frlxxcd If you had actually gone through his material, you would have given an example of what you're talking about.
Don't lie.
Someone please give this man a copy of the 13th amendment and tell him to read and think. It's only 47 words long.
I just read it . So? What he is saying is still correct.
@@JGold-cu5mo Really. Maybe you need to say it out loud. Especially the part where it says that slavery is abolished....drum roll... EXCEPT for prisoners duly convicted.
How someone can describe slavery, in a nation where its legal, and NOT actually call it slavery is a conundrum.
There's a reason we have the largest prison population on earth. From convict leasing till today, same practices and crimes against humanity. Call it what the constitution calls it. Slavery. Stop making up crazy words like "unfree".
i thought trevor had shaved, its weird
I really enjoy the people Trevor has on the show
I will however miss the afro, it is going to take some time to get used to the shaved head.
Didn't realize the date of this.
he shaved his head..... he looks strange like he is missing a limb.... why not get those cool cornrow styles
He will probably never read this, but his Captain America & Black Panther (comics) runs were both great even though all the other white men my age at my local comic shop hated it.
Why do we keep dragging SJWs into comedy?
I still do not get the point of the discussion. Incarceration Vs exile, maybe I will understand this topic more.
Ahh..
This guttersnipe guest.
Rev Jeremiah Wright wants his trademark back.
Coates is a horrible person.
2 words: Earl Sampson
Why is this reuploaded?
Do you hate white people? Um
Lol
TNC is missing seriously important sectors of his physiology... and I don't care what color he is. Unbelieveable? For certain.
Please tell us how the criminal justice system works in Trevor’s homeland of South Africa💯🤣🖕🏽
How does that effect you buddy? As Trevor has stated, South Africa had plenty of the problems that we do. The difference is they recognize the issues and work to correct them.