Should I Upgrade to Ryzen 7 5700X3D From Ryzen 7 2700X?
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Went from 5600 non X to 5800X3D and totally recommend ! 1% & 0.1% low improvement are insane on FFXIV and ACC ! If you play CPU heavy games and want to keep AM4 a little longer it's totally worth it.
Cool
What's your GPU ?
No the AMD Ryzen 7- 7800X3D processor is much better.
@@Red-Revolution708 no shit. It's also an entirely different socket so you can't just drop it in to an am4 board for a quick upgrade. A majority of folks would rather upgrade a single part instead of the entire platform you know.
No
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5700X3D and 5800X3D are also the end of the line of the AM4 platform, so they'll hold their resell value a bit better than the other cpus in the AM4 lineup.
We heard that before, haven't we?
It used to be that none could imagine some X3D procesor Being released upon it.
And even after 5800X3D arrived, everyone was so certain that that's it.
Don't be surprised if they released 5900X3D and 5950X3D a year or 2 from now.
And couple of years later something that shall humiliate 7800X3D , but on AM4 platform.
A holographic CPU with gigabyte of 4D cache.
You can🙄,but how would you react if in 2015 someone told you that AMD shall keep releasing high performance CPUs for 8 years for the same platform?
Like this:🙄
@@GameslordXY I want a 5 nm Zen 3+ AM4 6800X3D.
2700x to 5700x 5 years later still on b450 tomahawk max runs great plays great and overclocks great for a lower bin chip also very cool 70c hitting 4.7 multithread and 4.8 singethread on arctic freezer 34 esports duo air cooler. Pretty cool huh!
I have the exact same setup and temps! :p
funnily enough I got a 2700 and I'm going for a 5800X3D. similar people in my boat lol
Just bought a r7 5700x3d.
I will inherit my r7 2700 to a little cousin
@@juan180phow much more fps do you get from 2700x to 5700x3d? Im thinking of upgrading now
@@B-RadzYT Depending on game it can be like 2x or even slightly more, it's wild. You can find some direct comparisons on youtube. Did this upgrade and hugely satisfied. So instead of needing to make a full new build gonna keep this system another few more years.
I swapped my 5950X because of too much cores for my needs to a 5800X 3D and I saw quite decent gains in many games so going from a 2700X to a 5800X 3D would be a massive upgrade.
Dumb that is not even a side grade because you cut your cores and hyper threading in half and have lower clock speeds. I would have just bought a 7800x3d and sold the 5950x platform.
@@ZackSNetwork I got to keep my motherboard and ram and I sold the 5950X to a friend who wanted it for a video editing pc at a good price and we are both happy and X3D CPUs on AM5 were not released when I did the swap in december of 2022 so there is that.
@@ZackSNetworkdon't hate on people who know how to save money. Makes total sense to me to cut down to a 5800x3d if you can just sell off the 5950x
@@ZackSNetworkI have a 7800x3d, and no I disagree I think op made a better decision.
I went from a 5900X to a 5800X3D for $3 out of pocket. I noticed improvements but then had a offer of $380 for that 5800X3D and a X570 TUF motherboard and so I sold it and ultimately went to X670 Aorus Elite AX, 7600X, 32gb CL30 6000MT Trident Z5 Neo ram for $40 more out of pocket after I sold off 64gb of basic 3600mhz C18 ram. Before the 7600X AM5 upgrade though I did decide I would just use a 5800X I had in the house to hold me over until 9000 series came out. Well I noticed it big time when I went back down to a 5800x. My FPS games sustained framerates were noticeably lower even with only a 6900XT at darn near 4k resolution. (5120x1440p). I did the AM5 upgrade not too long after that and the 7600X felt just like the 5800X3D performance wise.
Don’t even need to watch the video. Yes he should. That 5700x3d is pretty much twice as fast as anything from the zen+ generation in gaming. There’s a ton of IPC improvement, frequency, and most importantly. A lot more cache.
I think it’s funny to see your shocked reactions at someone using a 2018 CPU as if it’s ancient. I had a friend still gaming on his i7-4790K until this week when he upgraded. But that was 10 years with the same CPU and playing many new games.
Just upgraded from a i7 4790k with a GTX 1070 to a R5 5600 and a friend's old RTX3060
Only the newest of games like Warhammer:Darktide and The Forest were giving me issues . Just 2 months ago i played prey in 1440p with high settings at 70fps. Rest in Power GTX 1070
In gaming, a 2700X isn't that much better than the 4790K, specially if you OC the intel chip, which can go to way higher clocks than stock.
I had a 2600K until 2019 where i got the 3600, now i have a 5700X3D.
I used an i7 920 for gaming for eleven years before I did a new build in 2021 lol
I had a 3570k for about the same amount of time, my 3600 didn't last anywhere near as long. But probably because my games have changed and more unoptimised stuff keeps being churned out
That because they are arrogant nerds who likes smell they own fart
About rom space (not ram), they often made dual bios versions. ASRock did something where the board reboots itself into legacy mode for older CPUs, so an older cpu would work but booting takes longer.
Went from a 2700x to 5800x3d and it's immense.
Most boards got around the rom space issue by dropping support for Bristol Ridge processors such as the A10 and A12 chips. Almost nobody owns those chips anyway.
I went from a 2700x to a 5700x3d and it’s amazing for gaming! I only play at 1080p so my gtx 1070 is still fine. Waiting till nvidea releases the 5000 series cards!
greetings sir! how substantial is the difference. My 2700x is slowly feeling lackluster and may be holding my rx 5700 back. will i gain roughly 30-40% more performancewith this upgrade? cheers.
@@zhila5958 you will gain a decent amount I think on paper it’s 25 percent but when I’m gaming I feel a huge difference in frames and it’s much more consistent. I recently upgrade to a 1440p 240hz lg gr95 and I can play helldivers around 100 fps on average. Roughly 70 fps if it’s native 1440p!
@@yohaneseats8984 No way! sounds like a no brainer to me. my 2700x feels like a stuttery mess nowadays. may as well sell it
@@zhila5958 yessir 5700x3d is so much better for gaming. I sold my 2700x for $50 on eBay last week.
I recently upgraded from a Ryzen 5 1600 (1st gen) to Ryzen 7 5800x3D
Wow that's a great leap forward
What motherboard and cooler you have?
5700X3D/5800X3D paired with a 4070Ti Super would be a decent fit and should be powerful enough to get the most out of that GPU in the vast majority of games.
After killing my 2700x by the end of last year due to it being basically fused to my CPU Cooler I recently upgraded to a 5700x in that same old motherboard. The difference is really noticeable and the only issues I had came from the fact that after updating the BIOS the motherboard default configuration was to turn all its overclocking feature on. My biggest surprised was seeing a Resizable Bar option there as I assumed my board would not have feature that was launched years after it released.
Legit just had the same thing happen, were you using the Wraith Prism by chance? The 2700x came off with the cooler lol.
@@247HALOMASTER Yeah, that's why I also bought an NH-U9S Noctua Cooler together with the 5700X. Also from now on I will be applying WB-40 any time I try to remove a cooler. That event was just too traumatic.
@ Honestly mate, I just upgraded my 2700x to a 5700x3d and I thought its a miracle I didn't break the motherboard by taking off my melted 2700x off with the cooler . Will be more careful next time lol. I've gotten about a 30-40% uplift in performance.
@@247HALOMASTERCongrats. What motherboard and cooler do you have?
@@b4dman I have a Aorus B450m elite, also have a Deep Cool AK620, keeps it nice and chilly.
In my region ryzen 7 5700x3d is way better value than 5800x3d cuz it is way cheaper for extremely tiny performance loss
I know its 7 months old video, but the price difference is insane, a 5700x3d is 230 euro, and then a 5800x3d is 499 euro
the 2700x is not a overclocked 1800x its got changes to its architecture.. ive dont tests at same clock speeds and its faster
He said "basically the same". Performance level is basically identical.
As someone with the RTX 3060ti, and someone who had the 2700x and now has the 5700x3D, this was a relief 😅
Still running a R3 1200AF at 4.2GHz and been looking at the 5800X3D for a while now
People are crazy with their upgrade mania… Still running 4670k and belive it or not, it can still run windows, install and execute games! I even get frame rates.
Sure if you are playing older games at 1080p still.
Yeah, every "should I upgrade" question should be answered with "Does the games you play run ok? Is your work affected by that component? Does it bother you if either of those are true?". If it's not affecting you, you dont need to upgrade. If it is and you can afford it, do it
I used my 4790k as my daily till 2019 and it was still a good CPU then. I recently repurposed it to run my NAS and it doesn't even sweat at that. I have a friend with the 4690k and he has no reason to upgrade.
@@MrNelahem why would the low resolution make his CPU not seem dated? You do know lower resolution hit the CPU harder, bc the GPU is trying to put out more frames, right?!!
@@MaxIronsThirdThe point I was trying to make is his whole rig is dated and he made that comment because he plays old games. He isn't playing anything on that computer that came out in the last 3 years that is triple A at any settings that are high or ultra.
I have upgraded my Ryzen 5 3600xt to a r7 5700x and its a night and day difference paired with my RTX 2070s and 32gb of ram which was 16 before.
I had a similar upgrade path as well. Went from 3600 to 5700X, and even with my 3060 Ti I saw differences in frame rates, especially in minimums. It wasn't exactly night and day, but it was noticeable enough. I also went from 16GB CL16 DDR4-3200 single rank to 32GB CL16 DDR4-3600 dual rank and that helped improve performance a bit more in certain areas and way less crashes due to running out of memory in certain games (memory capacity related issues basically is non-existent now).
With the same AM4 motherboard from 2018 I went from 2700X 16GB to 5950X 32GB and it's such a massive change in multi-tasking. I built a newer top of the line gaming rig with 7800X3D and a 4090 but I still use my old build daily.
Congrats. What motherboard and cooler do you have?
Both builds are very different. Which one are you referring to?
@@agoogleuser2369 What motherboard you used when upgraded from 2700x to5950x?
MSI B450 Gaming Carbon AC. Had to really figure out why my computer kept freezing and rebooting though. Turns out the motherboard was pushing too much voltage to the CPU. Had to do an undervolt of 0.0375mV offset and that fixed the performance and instability. It took me over a year to figure this one out, I already had built my new PC even.
@@agoogleuser2369 I also have B450 motherboard (TUF B450M-PRO GAMING) and want to upgrade to 5700X, but I'm not sure if the motherboard will handle this new processor and not burn out. But considering that you used 5950X on B450, I think I'll be fine. Thanks for reply.
Their experience with earlier Ryzen is so weird. I had a 1600x back when they came out and I had no issues with stutters or performance a couple of years after that I replaced it with a 2700x that I got on sale for like $130 and again had no issues with performance in games. I upgraded my main pc a couple of years afterthat and moved the 2700x to a secondary PC, and you guessed it, no issues.
Just want to understand how it would be upgrading from an FX 6300 to a Ryzen 9000 high end CPU. That's what I am planning to do next year. The thing is, there are many games left to play even with my ancient HW so I always keep postponing the upgrade.
Guys, just know how I miss your CPU reviews! Your approach with benchmarks running side by side was just better than AVG+LOWS graphs we typically see in reviews.
Whent from ryzen 9 3900x to ryzen 7 5800x3d and almost doubled my fps on my rx 6900 xt sapphire nitro gpu
These "should I upgrade X" posts are going to get old very quickly
Should i swap my 5900x for a 5800x3D?
Like with everything, you know next year is the twentieth anniversary of the Xbox 360, you’d think where us all the time gone lol .
@@massimiliano1306 Get a good one like the AMD Ryzen 7- 7800X3D processor. Best thing I did it’s brilliant for gaming.
I'm not sure how the 2700X compares to the 5600, which I'm on now, which was a decent upgrade from the 2600 I was on before. But since I was considering moving to the 5700X3D as the final one on the AM4 platform, I'm probably going to do that then. - The price will still have to come down for my liking, though... I'll wait a bit more.
i went from 2600x to 5700x, noticed a difference. it's snappier and improved fps. My nephew went from 1600x to 5700x. When he had his rx480 gpu, on fornite, he went from playing 1080p 100fps on low settings to 125fps on medium settings. Just a cpu upgrade. that tells you a lot.
yes
Hmm. I have a 3900x and have thought about moving to a 5800x3D since I no longer need the extra cores that I did when I first built this machine.
I mainly use it for gaming now. I'm no longer running VM's on this machine or doing any editing/rendering so the extra cores are not needed like the use to be.
It would be cheaper than a full upgrade.
I'm going to wait until I upgrade the whole platform. PCI-E 3.0 is what's holding me back if anything.
I'm actually thinking of going from a 5800X to the 5700X3D - I could sell it after and it would cover probably 75% of the cost
Hear me out :
2 cores deactivated, using gained temperature overhead to bclk overclock the 5700x3d
Can one simulate the 5600x3d ?
Its just 300mhz above a well adjusted 5700x3d.
This would make 5700x3d much more compelling for its price.
AMD should had used the bad bin for 5600x3d anyway.
A 3d could power a 4080 at 1440p, so 3060ti is lower balling it . In fact I can't max a 5700x at 1080p with my 7800xt which is a slower CPU . My 3060ti was much slower than my 7800xt.
Even the Ryzen 3600X was a performance jump over a Ryzen 2700X. It only took one mid end cpu from one generation later to surpass it. Not saying 2700X was dog shit, but if you had a 1st gen Ryzen like the 1700, the 2700X was not the one to upgrade to, even though a lot of people did.
Just snagged a $140 used 5700X3D and sold the 5700X it replaced for $120 less than a week later. Crazy overkill as it's in my shop PC with a 60hz ultrawide 1080p monitor and a GTX1080. But for $20 why not. Someday I might drop in a better GPU or maybe a high refresh monitor. Wasn't needed but $20, why the heck not.
How about 5800x to 5700x3d / 5800x3d running a 3070 ti?
Yes
i just put a 5800x3d in an old x370 mobo and it runs great
havent watch till the end but yes absolutely, did the same on my x470 and my frames go 2x, you remove a lot of bottlenecks from memory and inter-CCX latency alone
The 2700x is not that poor performance!?!?! Even DF's own benchmarks show at most 30% to 35% behind 5800x3d... I personally have been watching tons of content and it is about the same story. If you have the cash to upgrade, yeah go get it and wait for a couple more generations of Zen CPU's.
But it is not amazing as everyone says it is.
My upgrade to 5800x3d from 3700x has gotten me 50% - 100% more frames in most games I play, so I would say that is pretty massive. Even more so from the 2700x.
Yes it fkn is lol
The 5800x3D is already about 20% ahead of the 5800x. So you're saying that between the 2 generation difference of Ryzen 2000 and Ryzen 5000, there has only been a 15% difference? You can look at any reliable benchmarks from Hardware Unboxed or Gamers Nexus that debunk that.
Get a AMD Ryzen 7- 7800X3D processor, honestly it’s outstanding for gaming.
I think your 4090 is a much bigger factor for gaming than an x3D. AMD CPUs get way too much credit for gaming than GPUs for some weird reason.
Even compared to zen 2 cpu the difference already huge maybe like 70 - 85% unless you play at 4k with midrange gpu which is stupid
i upgraded from a 5600g to a 5700x3d and that was a worthy upgrade, so 100% yes lol
me watching with 2700 non X 🗿
At question: Yes, simply yes indeed
AM4 UPGRADE PATH FTW
4:22 I went from i5 8400 to 573d haha, good times
I have a Ryzen 7 3800X and right now I see no reason whatsoever to upgrade.
Chances are your setup is balanced enough that the 3800x is not severely holding back your GPU. The increase in performance from the 3800x to 5x00x3D is well documented, but only if the GPU is substantial enough to show it.
@@davidandrew6855 I'm using a RTX 4070 atm and 2x16GB. I've already thought about getting a 5800X3D but the 3800X is still running everything here just fine.
@@GameNest Yeah, I wouldn't spend the money if you are happy, the 3800x was/is a great CPU.
Bought 5700X3D for 153€ from Ali. Should arrive soon to replace my trusty 3600.
@@MVAT1000 No problems, 5700XT so not too amazing upgrade. I probably do one more gpu upgrade on this platform and then the difference should be more noticeable
always good to laugh at a guy asking an honest question. jesus
Yes.
But 5700X is also an amazing option.
Meanwhile my 5800x still being disrespected.
The 5800x is still an awesome processor it just got overshadowed by the value of the 5600x and later on in 2022, the 5700x. Then shortly after that, the 5800x3D came along. Between the 3 processors I just listed, it became hard to find a reason to pick up a 5800x despite it still being a very capable CPU to this day.
@@theboostedbubba6432 My pc is a covid build. The 5800x value at the time was It was in stock. :)
Thx though.
@neverable2 yeah I figured. 5800x as I said is a great processor, just an unfortunate turn of events following its launch. Ofc in 2020 and 2021, was the go to 8 core part.
Yesss. 2700x was poor in back in the day standard lol. Guy got scammed by Linus Tech Tip hypetrain cinebench.
Yes! Video over in 2 seconds
I got an RTX 4090 with AMD Ryzen 7- 7800X3D processor.
no one asked you
Right, lol 😂
someone tell John to keep the beard, looks way better
and here I am still using a 3600 lol
whoa this happens to be the exact same situation im, same cpu and upgrade option and same gpu XD
i have 4070 with R5 3600, if i decide to buy 5600x or 5800x, do you guys think its worth it? Why should i buy X3D?
Just get x3d variant unless you mostly use the pc for productivity
not worth it, get the 5700X3D or the 5600X3D if you're in the US near a Micro Center
Pure gaming processor, that huge stacked 3D cache helps many games regardless of less cores and lower freq.
Dang dude, you're seriously bottlenecking the 4070 with the 3600. The 5700X3D will make a much better pairing with that GPU.
@@Shieftain thanks for the answer mate, i just changed my gtx 970 with that 4070 oc, it's not doing bad performance, for 100 euro cpu i think, but for sure i will take your advice, it's bad feeling when i think in my country i need to work 15 days without eating, drinking or hangout to save 200,300 euro... But i will..
I have a 5600X, is it worth the upgrade to 7800X3D?
Zen 5 is slated to release later this year, so I say hold tight until Computex three months from now which is when AMD will most likely talk about it.
@Shieftain dam I completely forgot about that. Yeah smart move. I'll wait for the new di to come out. Either I get the 7900X3D even cheaper, or the new di is way better to get one.
@@Streetpharmasist420 I was just watching the Gamers Nexus 7900X3D review yesterday since it's on sale, and it's a weird one. It's trying to achieve this middle ground between the 7800X3D and the 7950X3D but not really doing a good job. I recommend you check out the review if you haven't already.
Another thing I forgot to mention is the possibility of newer generation of AM5 motherboards being revealed alongside Zen 5 CPUs at Computex. I'm hoping they'll have improvements like faster boot times and improved memory compatibility, so it might be also worth holding out a bit longer to see if anything surfaces on that end.
Oh, what GPU are you currently using? Are you planning to upgrade that too?
@Shieftain I'm currently using the Asus 1080ti OC edition. So yeah I need to upgrade. But I got the hook up with GPU at half off with Amazon returns store. I was going to go with the 4090 because I like RT. But I heard the 5000 series is going to be a major upgrade. Something about AI cores being a major focus, and 50%more powerful.
@@Streetpharmasist420 Well if you're still on a 1080ti the 5600 will do just fine. But if you do upgrade to the 4090 or better you probably would want to pair that with a faster CPU since ray tracing can be CPU heavy. IMO if you got the hook up a deep discount on the 4090 you should go for it now instead of waiting a year for the 5090 just because of some performance rumours (especially since historically they have almost never been true). The 4090 will be more than enough to keep you happy until the RTX 6000 is out. If performance in future games aren't up to par, just drop DLSS from quality to balanced (or even performance) and drop a few settings here and there for minimal visual loss while gaining far more frames.
No, 5800x3D/5600X3D. Based on Hardware Unboxed
5500 is enough
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