Upgrading to the 5700X3D: Is it Worth It?

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @tonkatoytruck
    @tonkatoytruck 5 часов назад +12

    Adopting the AM4 platform back in 2018 was the best gaming PC decision I ever made. Went from a 2400G to a 5600X3D on the same motherboard for $160usd.

    • @user-gq3eq5bf9t
      @user-gq3eq5bf9t 5 часов назад +1

      Im building a new pc should I go old am4 or am5?

    • @nicane-9966
      @nicane-9966 4 часа назад

      ​@@user-gq3eq5bf9tam5 he was on am4 already. Go for a 7500f from ali if you need something very cheap.

    • @tonkatoytruck
      @tonkatoytruck 4 часа назад

      @@user-gq3eq5bf9t I would go with AM5 if you are building new. The only way I would build an AM4 platform would be if I was on a VERY tight budget.

    • @meinekk
      @meinekk 3 часа назад

      @@user-gq3eq5bf9t i'd say it REAALLY depends on your budget, but also on what you want from your PC. If you are on a tight budget, like 500-800$ (or € or pounds for that matter) then i guess AM4 is still very, very viable. You can build a PC for roughly 700-800 bucks on AM4 with the 5700x3d or if you need it around the 500-600$ mark, you could go for a Ryzen 5600(X), depending on the deal you find. I am in Germany and I can get a Ryzen 5 5600 with the Boxed cooler for 91€. paired with a cheap motherboard (maybe 100€, can be cheaper), some 32gb DDR4 RAM (60€), Storage as needed and a possibly used GPU or a new one on a deal, you can get really budget and that PC can last you the next couple years, maybe even till AM6 drops, or at least until the next Series of big CPUs drop.
      If you have more than like 800 bucks or so for budget, i guess going for the 7000series or the 9000series starts to become the better option. its just better cpu performance, upgrading is easier and so on. i guess above 1000$ budget i would say you should always go for AM5, since it is decently cheap to get into these days (7600x for 200€ in germany, DDR5 is not MUCH more expensive than DDR4).
      Hope i could help, still recommend checking out other opinions tho!

    • @iantoezra
      @iantoezra 3 часа назад +2

      @@user-gq3eq5bf9t depends on your budget but defo try to go am5 since that is more futureproof

  • @WalterWolf000
    @WalterWolf000 11 часов назад +10

    The 5600(x) is a great chip up to (about) the 7800xt lvl of performance but the 5700x3d can extend your AM4 platform into the future with the upcoming GPU generation like the RX8000 or Battlemage B series cards while giving you better 1% lows today. I'd like to see a retest with the new cards in the near future Tech Guided!
    The cheap and effective 5700x3d is the main reason not to go with AM5 at least for now.

    • @unnamed715
      @unnamed715 3 часа назад +2

      Just upgraded from a 5600x myself. Paired with a 4070 at 1440p this chip is a beast!

    • @BattleToads
      @BattleToads Час назад

      I'm on an RX 6800 and even that can create some bottlenecks with the 5600.

  • @saos242
    @saos242 13 часов назад +9

    started with ryzen 5 1400 in 2017 to ryzen 5 3600 in 2021 and finally ryzen 5 5700x3d on my b350 motherboard am4 is such a good investment and the motherboard prices werent expensive on release like the am5 platform

    • @hanswurst2220
      @hanswurst2220 8 часов назад +1

      you made some very intelligent choices of CPU 👍

  • @toddzino58
    @toddzino58 Час назад +1

    I got a B450 board in 2017-2018 (whenever they came out) on Black Friday for $90. Put a 1600 on it. Then a 3600. Then a 3700x ($20 from a friend.). Recently put a 5600X in that I got used for $50. Not much of an upgrade, but will hold me for at least another year. Running a 5700XT video card which I got used for $125 a year ago. AMD did a great job w/AM4.

  • @bigfella4546
    @bigfella4546 3 часа назад +1

    Getting this video in my recommended the day after I upgrade to a 5700X3D is crazy.

  • @45eno
    @45eno 18 часов назад +3

    I just found a 5700x3D used for $140. It replaced a 5700x that I sold for $120 a week later. Paired with a 3060ti on 1080p 180hz. Makes for a great shop pc to stream or game on.

  • @MeettheStroops
    @MeettheStroops 2 часа назад

    I upgraded my PC from a 1800X (built in 2017) to the 5700X3D while still using my EVGA 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid GPU. Before the upgrade, I never saw the GPU hit 100% utilization-it just shows how ahead of its time the 1080 Ti was. With the 5700X3D, it's finally running at full capacity now!

  • @myabss8336
    @myabss8336 16 часов назад +6

    That was exactly the video I was searching for!
    I have a 5600x and was wondering if I upgrade to the 5700x3D or wait save up and juste change to AM5 completly.
    I think with this video I’ll stick to the 5600x for now even tho the 1% is better with the 5700x3D
    Thank you for your videos

    • @Meltyhead
      @Meltyhead 14 часов назад +2

      You can always do it later when prices drop even ore.

    • @diandrarafir3041
      @diandrarafir3041 10 часов назад +2

      Its worth it, trust me, i changed from exact 5600x to 7 5700x3d, the improvements are really good, It increases my fps by ton, even when im on 1440p

    • @SamRecon
      @SamRecon 2 часа назад

      If you wanna a real uplift performance go AM5, I have no regret from ryzen 5600x to 7900 non x all gaming PC or emulation (AVX-512 instructions set give a huge bust to modern emulation).
      On PC side better frames more stable at all. It can handle any gpu you put on it.

  • @nikolasvel
    @nikolasvel 41 минуту назад

    I purchased the 5700X3D for under $150 at Microcenter and sold my 5600X for $80. For a $70 upgrade I got the extra 3D V cache technology, and a few more cores. As a bonus, the upgrade made a considerable difference in Warzone and Fortnite. I have it paired with an XFX 6950XT and it is slaying all games at 1440P. Very happy with the set up.

  • @Kemikku
    @Kemikku 15 часов назад +4

    I went from a 11600k to a 5700x3d and it was a night and day difference with my 4070 super. I thought upgrading my 3060ti to a 4070 super would help my cpu but i ended up changing my platform to Am4 for 290$ 190$ for the cpu and 100$ for the mobo all new during black friday. Definitely worth it over am5 since im not planning on keeping my current build for longer than a year but didnt wanna spend too much on a totally new build

    • @45eno
      @45eno 11 часов назад +3

      You could have bought a 7600x for $190 and a b650 for $120. Sell your old hardware to cover the ram cost. The 7600x is faster on avg than the 5800x3D and has better IPC than zen3 and clock speed is 1400mhz faster than a 5700x3D. I own both. Crazy to pay $290 on AM4 when Am5 was the same price. 😢

    • @unnamed715
      @unnamed715 3 часа назад

      @@45eno Oh shut up 🙄

    • @NegerKim
      @NegerKim 55 минут назад

      I would advise AGAINST going from a 10th gen or newer Intel to AM4, despite the x3D chips greatness. If you're doing an entire platform change, get AM5. You won't be able to upgrade from the 5700x3D but you can from say a 7500F that will net you similar performance.
      The x3D chips are great for people ALREADY on AM4, not for new builds.

  • @Arjun-eb1yc
    @Arjun-eb1yc 14 часов назад +3

    Very useful real world testing, thank you!
    Also these slightly older CPUs like R5 5600x are better paired with Radeon GPUs due to the more efficient drivers.

  • @GB-zi6qr
    @GB-zi6qr 4 часа назад

    Thanks for making this video, gives tech challenged folks like me a better understanding.

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  29 минут назад

      You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful.

  • @wh3resmycar
    @wh3resmycar 11 часов назад +1

    it lessened the CPU utilization by a wide margin. this is a good upgrade.

  • @facelessvaper
    @facelessvaper 4 часа назад +1

    I have the 5700X paired with RX6800🤔

  • @riccochet704
    @riccochet704 2 часа назад +1

    If you have a Micro Center near you the 5700X3D is on sale for $180. That's a bargain for a great CPU.

    • @toddzino58
      @toddzino58 Час назад

      I just saw that and was coming to say it!

  • @venus1x799
    @venus1x799 Час назад +1

    love this combo its the one i got

  • @fadimajeed679
    @fadimajeed679 9 часов назад +1

    Brother, when you compare CPUs you MUST, HAVE TO, NEED TO show the graph because the most important thing between those two CPUs is the 1% low which is the consistency or the smoothness of the game, which is better to feel it than to see a number for it, because people might think that a 10-40% difference in the 1% lows is not that big of deal
    Im in middle of the video and until now you started talking about the 1% lows and I believe that most people whose watching this won't complete the video to the end so you should clarify whats the main difference between CPUs are from the beginning so people know where to spot the difference
    And thanks for the video

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  11 минут назад

      Yeah, I probably should have emphasized the importance of the 1% low performance in the intro. The 1% lows are in the graphs, but I think I need to rethink how I show the graphs as it might be too small for some people to read. Maybe split it between showing the gameplay with the overlay and then switching to a full screen view of the graph.
      In any case, thank you for the feedback and will rethink how I present it for the next video.

  • @TRG_TheRantingGerman
    @TRG_TheRantingGerman 3 часа назад

    Note the wattage of the 5700x3D in comparison to the 5600x. While the performance increase isn't substantial most of the time, the power consumption, cpu usage and heat production shrank considerably. This is a plus. A definitive plus, because you fare better with the same (or slightly better-) performance, but use less power to do that.

  • @oswaldjh
    @oswaldjh 6 минут назад

    Did a similar test with the addition of a 5700X and used a 4070 TI Super.
    Where the X3D part is locked, the 5700x is unlocked and can be tuned in the Adrenalin Software.
    The 5700x is a good upgrade from a 3600x or similar CPU and is around $100 cheaper than the X3D part.

  • @RobloxianX
    @RobloxianX 6 часов назад +1

    The 5700X3D is a great *upgrade* but it's not that good for new builds. Also don't forget to people who want 4K gaming on Am4, the 5800X will get the same FPS while having way better productivity while still being sold brand new. So honestly the 5700X3D is good for an AM4 upgrade that is still on 1080p but nothing else

  • @imglidinhere
    @imglidinhere 13 часов назад +1

    It's worth adding The Riftbreaker to measure CPU performance. The difference is quite stark when comparing Vcache vs regular chips.

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  5 минут назад

      Thanks for the heads up on The Riftbreaker, I'll see if I can work it into future benchmarks.

  • @BattleRapBoutique
    @BattleRapBoutique 11 часов назад +1

    just upgraded from 2700x which i got when it launched to 5700x3d. paid a third less for this new solid cpu and am getting twice the performance. best bet to stretch that am4 build just a few more years (2-4 more years).

  • @patete163
    @patete163 4 часа назад +1

    Your conclusion is completely misleading. "Bottleneck" does not address the elephant in the room. That's why it's very important when building a PC to pair components that complement each other. What you video shows is the 5600 was a good match for the 7800xt. only what to actually compare the performance difference between the 2 CPUs in a "video game scenario" would be using a 4090 and then to further push the CPUs to their limits lower the resolution forcing each CPU to their respected limits. Good luck with your chanel I'm a fan of content like this.

    • @dakbassett
      @dakbassett 2 часа назад

      Your comment is dumb. Most people do not use the 4090. You go buy the overpriced pos. How about that?

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  27 минут назад

      Yeah, I see what you're saying, but it wasn't really meant to be a true CPU comparison benchmark, but rather a "what kind of performance gain does my system get when I drop in the 5700X3D."

  • @ChiekoGamers
    @ChiekoGamers 5 часов назад

    I currently have the 5600 and considering upgrading to 5700X3D. The 0.1% lows is what matters.

  • @jd881
    @jd881 6 часов назад +1

    I am in the same boat. I have a 5600x in my rig now and there is a 5700x3D in a box sitting next to the rig. But I also have a 7900 xt also sitting in a box. I am of the opinion that the 7900 xt will bottle neck the 5600x even at 1440, maybe not at 4k though as that is where the limit of the GPU will start to kick in.

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  17 минут назад

      Yeah, there are definitely some games where the 5600X is going to hold back the 7900 XT at 1440P. Your 5700X3D will give you a boost there.

  •  6 часов назад +1

    Seems some of yall missed the 5800x3D prices when they were below 300 last year. Got mine for 280.Now their back up to 459.

    • @NegerKim
      @NegerKim 53 минуты назад

      It's out of production, go figure...

  • @skivvywaver
    @skivvywaver 6 часов назад

    I went from a 3700x to a 5800X3D. It was worth it. The chip cost me $300 so I didn't pay full retail for the thing.

  • @theowolf960
    @theowolf960 12 часов назад

    What I’m looking for now is an MMO benchmark and how those type of games are impacted by the 3D cache

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  6 минут назад

      Agreed, I really need to mix in some MMOs and competitive shooters into the games I test, but those style games are harder to get consistent benchmarks on.

  • @fuedlibumser
    @fuedlibumser 5 часов назад

    For gaming, it is smarter to invest in a better GPU than in a CPU from the same generation.

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  23 минуты назад

      Depends on the games you play, but putting more into your GPU is typically better for gaming use-cases.

  • @VaVaVaaaaaaaaa
    @VaVaVaaaaaaaaa 5 часов назад

    thank you

  • @shawnmorrow8350
    @shawnmorrow8350 2 часа назад

    My 5800x is still rocking steady

  • @grantmackinnon1307
    @grantmackinnon1307 11 часов назад +1

    be interesting to see a non-x3d chip like the 5950x, 5900x, or 5800x. then would be able to see if its the extra core making the different, or the extra cache making the difference.

    • @hermit1255
      @hermit1255 2 часа назад

      Cache.

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  9 минут назад

      Great idea for a future video, thank you!

  • @darkpita4839
    @darkpita4839 6 часов назад

    I’m wanting to swap the exact same cpus as I just got a 4070tis and want more use out of my x570 mobo. It sounds like this card needs that L3 cache.

  • @BattleToads
    @BattleToads Час назад

    Great video. Now, benchmark your moustache.

  • @mikeh6286
    @mikeh6286 10 часов назад

    Thank you for buying AMD. Support the underdog people, if you want better prices and greater leaps in performance.

    • @silverplayer7502
      @silverplayer7502 7 часов назад

      Amd is no longer the underdog when it comes to cpu, unless you mean the gpu side

    • @mikeh6286
      @mikeh6286 7 часов назад

      @silverplayer7502 They are but not by a giant margin anymore. Avoid AMD if they become the largest to help out the competition.

  • @omccc
    @omccc 2 часа назад

    Isn't the rx 7800xt high end?

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  30 минут назад +1

      Yeah I suppose you could put it in that category. Either lower high-end or upper mid-range depending on how you view it.

  • @45eno
    @45eno 18 часов назад +4

    Bad graphs to use for people watching on their phone. Yeah even trying 1080p I can’t read the results on the graphs on a iPhone 16 Pro.

    • @Gavin_jk
      @Gavin_jk 18 часов назад

      noooo

    • @45eno
      @45eno 18 часов назад

      @ yessss?

    • @marcelkowacki2594
      @marcelkowacki2594 17 часов назад +1

      i cant see them on 4k dell 31,5' they are terrible

    • @wood6454
      @wood6454 13 часов назад +1

      pinch to zoom

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  Минуту назад

      Thanks for the feedback. I'll alter it for future videos to show the full-size graphs in future benchmark videos.

  • @hquan1
    @hquan1 6 часов назад

    Can a single tower air cooler (4 to 6 copper pipes) handle this cpu? I am planning to change my R5-5600 to this 5700X3D.

    • @hermit1255
      @hermit1255 2 часа назад

      Yes, I originally had a dual-fan, single-tower PC specialist air cooler that came with my pre-built system, which I used initially with no issues (other than it being noisier than I desired). I switched to a Shadow Rock 3, which is whisper-quiet and performs slightly better. It idles at around 30 degrees Celsius, and while gaming on demanding titles, I've never seen it exceed 60 degrees Celsius; it normally hovers around 50, give or take. The old one had similar performance but was noisier with its two bargain fans buuuring. The point is, it's not difficult to cool. (both were/are 5 pipe btw)

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  20 минут назад

      Yeah, absolutely, I just did a video where I tested a few budget-oriented coolers on the 5600X and 5700X3D and the 5700X3D did very well on the Thermalright Burst Assassin 120 (6 heat pipes) and even did well enough on the smaller ID-COOLING SE-903-XT (3 heat pipes).

  • @therpp9183
    @therpp9183 4 часа назад

    you need to find cpu bound games in order to determine what cpu is better..

  • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
    @JamesSmith-sw3nk 16 часов назад

    I went from a 5600x (Great cpu for the money) to 5800x3d. I noticed an almost undescribable difference in "smoothness" in gaming and even desktop tasks with the 5800x3d, it "feels better". Maybe it's the extra cores, I don't know.

    • @baronvonslambert
      @baronvonslambert 8 часов назад

      The jump from my old 2600 to my 5800X3D was literally mind blowing. My PC became literally the snappiest, smoothest Windows PC I've ever used, to the point anything slower has become frustrating to use because it feels like it crawls in comparison.

  • @paulburkey2
    @paulburkey2 11 часов назад

    Why is your 5700X3D only boosting to 4.025 GHz my 5600X3D locks in @ 4.450 GHz

    • @baronvonslambert
      @baronvonslambert 8 часов назад

      Because the AM4 X3D chips are made by slapping 3dVcache on regular 5600/x and 5800/x Ryzen chips AMD had lying around that didn't meet performance targets in quality assurance testing. So their max PBO can vary pretty wildly, especially with the 5700X3D because it's made from chips that weren't good enough to meet the standards to be sold as the 5800X3D. Some people have also reported that b450 boards and x570 boards offer improved performance over the 350 and 370 boards with X3D and 5000 series Ryzen in general thanks to improvements to power delivery, but it's not a whole lot of performance difference even in the most extreme cases.
      In short, the creator lost the silicon lottery, you won the silicon lottery.

    • @paulburkey2
      @paulburkey2 8 часов назад

      @baronvonslambert yeah but so was my 5600X3D Granted I do undervolt it and that helps it performance and temps

    • @monotheisticmortal5122
      @monotheisticmortal5122 12 минут назад

      5700X3D max frequency is 4.1 GHz look it up. Boosting to only 4025MHz or 4050MHz is to be expected.

  • @syedshakaibanwar2698
    @syedshakaibanwar2698 4 часа назад

    My 5600 ischoking my 4070 super, is the upgrade to 5700x3d worth it?

    • @unnamed715
      @unnamed715 3 часа назад +1

      Yes! Definitely!
      I went from a 5600X to a 5700X3D paired with a 4070 and I couldn't be happier! Most of the annoying microstutters are gone (depending on the game.) At 1440p it's a great pair. I say just do it man, go for it! You won't regret it. 😉

    • @TechGuided
      @TechGuided  26 минут назад

      Depends on the games you play, but considering you're seeing a significant enough bottleneck to comment about it, I'm guessing you're playing games that are CPU bound and so the 5700X3D would likely be a very worthwhile upgrade for you.

    • @syedshakaibanwar2698
      @syedshakaibanwar2698 9 минут назад

      @@TechGuided Even on Cyberpunk at 1440p I'm seeing my cpu usage spike up to 60% at some places

  • @ianmacdonald5336
    @ianmacdonald5336 12 часов назад +1

    I looked into this and wasn’t going to bother. The difference between a 5700x and a 5700x3d just isn’t worth it. The real upgrade is just max the AM4 with the a 5900xt or 5950x

    • @baronvonslambert
      @baronvonslambert 7 часов назад +1

      The 5900 series is really a productivity/workstation CPU line, and really only beats the 5800 line in the most CPU intensive strategy and sim titles since most games aren't optimized to really take advantage of more than 8 cores.

  • @silverplayer7502
    @silverplayer7502 7 часов назад

    Sad that I am on a lga 1700 with 12400f :( and switching to am4 seems useless (used market value is also almost non existent in my place as they still sell it at a high price despite being used)

    • @GB-zi6qr
      @GB-zi6qr 4 часа назад

      Maybe look at the 12600? I have AM4 with a 5600X, with the same GPU, my son's 12600K kicks ace in gaming. Both systems are running DDR4.
      Just my two cents.

    • @silverplayer7502
      @silverplayer7502 4 часа назад

      @@GB-zi6qr idk if that's worth imo, but I've been looking at 12700k as it sometimes goes on sale for cheap on amazon. But I'll probably just save for the new upcoming platforms as the 12400f still does me good.

    • @GB-zi6qr
      @GB-zi6qr 3 часа назад

      @@silverplayer7502 all good. The hard part is deciding whether or not to upgrade.

  • @therpp9183
    @therpp9183 4 часа назад

    starfield is a gpu bound game... try it with a arc a770 and 5700x3d and you will be struggling with it like i was at around 50 fps or below no matter what settings.. now iv got my tuf gaming rx7800xt 16gb im riding them frames easy at high settings...

  • @mikem9267
    @mikem9267 13 часов назад

    Yeah I have that set up 5600x and a 7800xt, and I just can't see the benefit of going to the 5700x3d. I have a 32" 1440p display so the difference is not going to be much. Its also hard when the 7600 and 7600x are so cheap.

    • @45eno
      @45eno 11 часов назад

      @@mikem9267 Yeah, if you find a used one close to what you can sell the 5600x then I would for sure. All my AM4 builds (8) except one were sold off for AM5. I wanted to sell the very nice x570, 5600 or better setups while the market was still hot for AM4. I snagged amazing AM5 deals and most of them were very low out of pocket. I would just watch local ads and when you find a killer deal just buy it and part out the AM4 stuff. I bought a sealed 7600 for $150 and new 7800x3D for $220. Lots of deals out there.

  • @fanetoplay4256
    @fanetoplay4256 4 часа назад

    had got one from microcenter for 175