It's beautiful to see an independent publisher, historian and enthusiast put mainstream propaganda to shame: just ... Beautiful. God has blessed RUclips goers once again.
that showed some light to this lesser know air conflicts in awesom details even for a Pakistani we never know the details of these individual conflicts and how our airmen fought that difficult war the graphics, the story telling based on real histroy and music excellent
Thank you for the positive comment! Yes, details of battles such as this one are generally not known well even in the countries directly involved in them. Most people are just interested in the 'big picture' and don't want to go into such detail.
@@showtime112 One is fear which brings scarcity ,ignorance and loss of liberty , one is love which brings abundance ,wisdom and liberty....we are co-creating this.
Great video. The individual skill levels of IAF and PAF pilots were fairly similar and both very good. Indians however, had better inter-branch co-ordination, resulting in them pulling more successful Combined Arms Operations. Pakistan however, likely had better airframes and more effective ground fire.
At the end of the conflict, Pakistan claimed 20 aircraft shot down on 4 December on the western front - 9 Su-7, 5 Hunters, 3 Canberras, 1 Gnat, 1 Marut, 1 unidentified aircraft. Of these 12 were downed in air-to-air combat, the rest by ground fire.
NO MARUT WERE LOST IN AIR COMBAT. RATHER THEY CLAIMED 2 ENEMY AIR CRAFTS IN DOG FIGHT.BUT THERE WERE LOOSES TO MARUT DURING TAKE OFF AND LANDING MALFUNCTIONS. BUT I CAN NOT CONFIRM THERE LOSSES TO ENEMY STAFFING ATTACK.
and pakistan lost the war. As always the cowardly and weak Pakistan military keeps surrendering in fear. The only thing they can do is attack unarmed civilians. Pakistan military's official motto should be - "never won a war, never lost an election"
I remember the minor spat the UK had with Honduras who used P51 Mustangs against RN Buccaneers from HMS Ark Royal. Only downside was Buccaneers didnt have guns just armed with missiles
Beautiful video, as an Indian, love to see these events being realized by the rest of the world. 1965 and 1971 have some amazing aerial stories. I'd love it if you'd consider making a video on the Su-7BMK which got a possible gun kill on a Sidewinder armed Shenyang J-6 over Mianwali. IAF Su-7BMK of 32nd Squadron, flown by Flt Lt SS Malhotra. Nickname Mad Mally, for obvious reasons lmao.
Thank you for the feedback! I'm happy to hear that there are people from the involved countries who are not only interested in seeing their side win. I will do some Su-7 videos in the future.
@AT-bo6ww did bollywood give you this info😂... indian fighter jet was shot down and pilot caught recently .. Pakistan Airforce has always maintained its supremacy over Indian Air force. So please wake up get your facts straight maddy mally 😂
Thank you for this perfect little stories. And thank you for giving both sides opinion on the matter, doing this way is a sign of the professional approach.
Nice video as always. You asked in the video whether we would be interested to see video re-enactments of the PAF claims of two more IAF hunters shot down by the PAF (which the IAF admitted) - the answer is definitely Yes please….would be great to see videos of these re-enactments. I am very much enjoying your video re-enactments recently and I am seriously thinking of becoming a patreon supporter… All the best and keep up the excellent work. Sami
Thank you very much for the feedback! I will consider covering these other battles as well. Also ,thank you for considering becoming a Patreon supporter!
Another great video. Sabre and Hunter are two of the best-looking aircraft of their time, with both benefitting from German WW2 research. The Sabre’s swept wing replacing the original straight wing design NA140/XP86 after NA gained access to late war German flight research data which enabled them to get their now modified design to attain the 600mph speed laid down in the original Air Force requirement and the Hunter’s ferocious 4x30mm gun pack of ADEN cannon based upon the Mauser MK213 revolver cannon which was only at prototype stage at war’s end. The Hunter could survive far more 50cal hits from the Sabre’s Brownings than the Sabre could withstand from the ADEN’s 30mm HE rounds.
Thanks a lot! I agree that both fighters were quite elegant and cool looking. Such an exciting time in military aviation. Hunter certainly packed a heavier punch.
Great video! What flight sim is that? I love these videos that enlighten us in conflicts that occurred between countries that were not superpowers! Very interesting! Thanks!
J.D. Webster gave us Air Superiority, Air Strike, The Speed of Heat, and a series of magazines covering his games. In one magazine he had a campaign game for an East Pakistan air base with a squadron of Sabres.
Please do make more videos on the Indo-Pak skirmishes -fascinating because at this point of time mid and senior level officers in both services had trained in the Royal Indian Air Force before partition of the British Raj into India and Pakistan and had fought together in WW2 Europe and Burma theaters and were very close in terms of knowing each others families & thier children having close friendships, this made the war very personal and emotional for both sides.
Thank you for the comment! Yes, it is a very interesting historical situation (although not unique). There will be more videos from Indo-Pak conflicts.
India humiliated Pakistan Bad in 1971, 93000 pakistani soldiers surrendered to Indian forces the biggest surrender ever in the history of armed wars and Pakistan was broken into 2 parts resulted in the birth of a new country called Bangladesh, few years after India again defeated Pakistan in 1999 kargil war, the Indian Airforce played a huge role in the 1971 Indian Victory.
That was an old time brother. I think you have forget your South Indian Pilot Wing Commander Abinandan who was shoot down by our Airforce and Arrest in Azad Kashmir and our SSG Commandos used to rescue him from Azad Kashmiri Public otherwise he would have been killed by the Public of Azad Kashmir Public and kindly don't forget our Fantastic tea😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂☕☕☕☕🫖☕☕☕☕☕🫖🫖🫖☕☕☕
@@mughalkhan9833 Pakistan cut down in 2 parts by India in 1971, India again humiliated Pak in 1999 kargil war, and in 2019 shot down Pakistans f16 by a Mig21. Market cap of A single Indian company TATA 360 billion dollars, Entire GDP of Pakistan 350 billion dollars, 1965, 1971,1999, 93000 was even more fantastic🤣🤣
'93,000 soldiers surrendered 😅😅' get your facts corrected. Total Pak Army in East Pakistan during 1971 war was 32,000. Total prisoners mostly included civilians, armed forces contractors etc. With regards to the dog fights among the 2 air forces, IAF faced heavy casualties with PAF knocking 102 of their aircrafts and losing 34 of their own which includes 12 F-86 Sabers that PAF destroyed in the ground themselves to avoid Indian capture. These are UN figures that can be found online.
Go and ask Manik Shaa who said Pakistan army fought very gallanly for 9 months against 15 times bigger Indian army without any military support east Pakistani Bengalis were also against Pakistan army plus millions of mukti bahini wer also fighting a gorilla war against army so lastly Bhutto teared the France resolution to stop the war in UNO...so that Pakistan army should come out from east Pakistan. At that time Pakistan army had no choice except surrender.
The Hawker Hunter is a stunningly beautiful aircraft, and having flown them they are generally a forgiving aircraft, the cockpit is a bit cluttered, but the Hunter's worst vice was if you got into an inverted flat spin it was virtually impossible to recover, so once in one under 20,000 ft, out you got.
Sarfraz Toor was one course junior to me in the PAF Academy, but I’ve no contact with him since Dec 1971, since I’m a Bangladeshi. Wish him all the best. I feel Flg Off Tiyagi must have had gone down, unfortunately, with the aircraft, because if he had survived, definitely he would’ve been returned as a POW. The two air forces meticulously followed the Geneva Conventions.
Its always good to see the intricacies involved in 1965 and 1971 Indo-Pak wars. We only know the results of the war but these small intricacies are often missed.
Gran video y muy bien documentado. Ojalá pueda realizar otro, con el Hawker Hunter como protagonista, es realmente muy bello avión, el último de los clásicos. Saludos y felicitaciones por tan buen canal.
Amazing! Due to this video, after 43 years of listening the true story of the crashed Indian Jet near my village, from my elders and villagers, today I came to know the name of Indian Pilot who lost his life with his crashing Indian Jet. As per my late grandfather and his three brothers (Indian Jet's 1971 Crash eye-witnesses); In 1971 Indo-Pak War, only one Indian jet invading Murid Air Base (Chakwal District) had crashed as 2 low-flying Pakistani jets were closely chasing it and that Indian Jet couldn't avoid hitting Mountain's Peak (just less than 1Km from native village or aerial distance 23 Kms east of Murid Base) in Dil-Jabba Mountain Range (District Chakwal). The 1971 jet crash site was also evident of human remains and IAF's logo on the jet. Hence, unfortunately Indian Pilot Flying Officer Sudhir Tiyagi had certainly lost his life with his crashed jet as I have several times visited the mountainous Indian jet's 1971's crash site.
Make video on Flying Officer Nirmaljit Sekhon's defence of Srinagar Airbase, only IAF soldier to win Paramveer Chakra, India's highest military honour equivalent to Victoria Cross in UK
The animation quality of these videos is astonishing. I guess the F86F could out turn a Hunter? Do you know if either side wore G suits? I'm guessing not since that Pakistani aviator blacked out in a level hard turn.
Thanks for the positive comment! I believe that they had g-suits but even if you have one, you can still black yourself out. No fly-by-wire on these aircraft and you could easily pull too hard.
Contested claims in air combat is not surprising considering the confusion involved. But the Indian and Pakistani conflicts and their claims are something else... honestly the nationalism in contested claims seems to really color things compared to other conflicts. As always loss records and cross data examination reveals the best picture. A good video.
Thank you very much! India and Pakistan are an 'unresolved' conflict and there's a lot of heat from both sides. That's why I'm sometimes reluctant to cover these stories as I tend to get comments I really, really prefer not to :)
Flying officer Sudhir Tyagi indeed shot down a pakistani saber. See this . When attacking the enemy airfield, Fg Offr Sudhir Tyagi spotted an enemy aircraft close on the tail of the leader of the mission. He engaged the aircraft and shot it down. An enemy Mirage and two Sabres closed in on him. In the ensuing battle, in spite of being outnumbered, he fought valiantly though his aircraft was shot down. The name of Fg Offr Sudhir Tyagi, was reportedly announced over Pakistan Radio on 05 Dec 1971 as having been captured. Our Indian fighters are far more capable in combat roles than the Pakistanis.
Cope idol worshipper. You air force was dominated in 1965 despite heavily outnumbering Pakistani aircrafts. Pakistanis have a 100% win record against Israeli pilots while flying Soviet jets. Israeli fighter pilots are feared everywhere.
You air force was dominated in 1965 despite heavily outnumbering Pakistani aircrafts. Pakistanis have a 100% win record against Israeli pilots while flying Soviet jets.
@@maquacr7014 Making tall/fake claims is very easy. Comparing urself with Israelis is like comparing a Cow dung with a Diamond. Israelis are very educated nd skillfull unlike the Pakistanis who are corrupt and fake.
@@maquacr7014 And in 1965 war. You had the hand of America over you. Hence, you had F 104 starfighter, F86 saber the most advanced aircrafts of that time. We only had hunters, maruts, gnats, vampire etc which were no match. But you guys were still challenged and defeated by our skillful pilots.
@@sayanbiswas6713 So what? Having American tech is a double edged sword. Pakistan found that out when it was sanctioned immediately after 1965 war and again in 90s.
You Sir, deserve standing ovation for keeping your videos and channel Independent and stating the facts. Instead of pushing indian propaganda. Had you been following indian narrative, you would have 4M subs, 2M videos on each video and invitation to indian news channels as a chief guest.
How am I only finding this channel *now* ? I've always wanted to see historical scenarios played out using War Thunder. Fantastic work! A request if I may: Could you do a video on the story of the German F-104 that flew emergency medication to a little girl in Sardinia with 24 hours to live? The trip was successful and the girl was saved thanks to numerous civilian and military forces, forgoing of protocols, shortcuts through red tape and perhaps most of all the pilot: Lieutenant Jürgen Gundling. I believe the girl's name was Jessica?...
I hope there's plenty more people like you who haven't discovered the channel yet :) I'll make note of your suggestion. It's different from what I normally do but it might even work.
Please make videos on the legendary commander of PAF Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider's famous strike on the Pathankot airbase in the 1965 war and his strike on the Wahgha-Atari border that saved Lahore from Indian onslaught.
@@therealdoctory-roblox3844 are you mad from mind 😂 Pakistan air force win and Pakistan lose! How useless is this statement? Pakistan air force is a protective force of Pakistan. If Pakistan lost war it simply means no matter how good is it's aircraft or anything else. He lost
I'm happy you appreciate it! I intend to cover the topic you suggested. Some interesting battles occurred in the 1956 War but I need to unlock some more aircraft in WT.
@@showtime112 that’s great news to hear. I can’t wait to watch them . We use your videos to inspire us for our miniature wargaming events. We are currently working on scenarios based on your A6M2-N videos!
Your impartial and independent research is the best way to know the air warfare history. Also feeling pained for the POWs still in jail and never returned home, they were serving their motherland similarly to million of talented youths serving their own countries. They aren't criminals and keeping them as missing person is barbaric. Thank you that you spoke about the pilot possibility still in jail. We look forward for many more videos from you on airfare of Indian subcontinent.
His research is from Pakistani sources. He has already mentioned his sources. On the other hand, there is evidence that Sudhir Tyagi shot down one of their aircraft before being shot down himself. These white people underestimate India.
His research is from Pakistani sources. He has already mentioned his sources. On the other hand, there is evidence that Sudhir Tyagi shot down one of their aircraft before being shot down himself. .
Certainly not forgotten by me.Chiefly I try to defend History against those new generations that wish to make a name by altering the names ,pronounciations of names and downright miss information by expressing their views without adviseing the reader of it being unsubstantiated opinion etc. True History Forever Please. Keep the Fairy stories for the Fairies Thankyou. So mankind will be able to properly identify to events so then avoid makeing Historical mistakes ? OK. Be Blessed and Thanks for the Article here.Well done real nostalgae I am Octogenerian.Excuse poor English I am living abroad leaving UK when 21. An Expat.
Excellent video, thank you. How much of an edge did the Sidewinder give the Pakistani and indeed other air forces at that time? As the most iconic missile of the period, it would be really interesting to have an analysis!!
Gteat video covering this conflict which is little to not known of in the West in detail. Glad to see these classic war horses fighting each other. Interesting comments are given to provide for more insight in the conflict. Thanks for all you Showtime 112! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇸🏁🇮🇱🇺🇦🔱🌻🏵️💮🌸🌼🏴☠️🏹
nice video as always, I suggest that you show the spec card of the aircraft involved, as I am eager about the top speed of Hunter and sabre but i have to look in Google...
Difference between iaf and paf is paf never admit their loses and always tries to glorify their achievements so its quite difficult to know what really happened
@@planeloverpilot4802 True, my bad. But still, Kaiser Tufail lists 26 Pakistani aircraft losses in the 1971 war (not including the aircraft captured in the East). Ten of those were lost in air combat. So, it's not exactly 'never'.
1971 war is amazing cause there's American jets vs British Jets, Migs vs Migs, American jets vs Soviet jets, all happening simultaneously
A remarkable array of aircraft to be sure.
@@socaljarhead7670All Russian aircraft aren't Migs!
There were no migs vs migs.
@@tintunbirha ...well, the PAF flew Shenyang F-6's, the IAF MiG-21FL's, but whether they actually faced off is completely unknown
Which side win, 😂
It's beautiful to see an independent publisher, historian and enthusiast put mainstream propaganda to shame: just ... Beautiful. God has blessed RUclips goers once again.
Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it!
that showed some light to this lesser know air conflicts in awesom details even for a Pakistani we never know the details of these individual conflicts and how our airmen fought that difficult war the graphics, the story telling based on real histroy and music excellent
Thank you for the positive comment! Yes, details of battles such as this one are generally not known well even in the countries directly involved in them. Most people are just interested in the 'big picture' and don't want to go into such detail.
Thanks for your work to promote forgotten history.
Thank you for watching and appreciating it!
Vintage aircraft are cool....but war sucks....crazy when you think about ...stunning cinematics and superb storytelling . Thank you .
Thank you for commenting! Funny how we are drawn to these historical events much more than stories of peaceful growth and prosperity.
@@showtime112 One is fear which brings scarcity ,ignorance and loss of liberty , one is love which brings abundance ,wisdom and liberty....we are co-creating this.
Philippines 🇵🇭 ❤ 🇮🇳 India..
Awesome video!!!!! To see a Mirage 3, Hunter, and F-86 in combat at the same time is a crazy thing!
Thanks a lot! It is a bit crazy but Mirages were probably not there. I showed that version because many Indian sources are serious about it.
The Hunter was a favourite model..it looked like a jet should look, to a 10 y/o, in 1976...(I wish I had taken care,....but a destructive streak).
The animation and the choice to not add distracting music are greatly appreaciated
Thanks!
Thanks again!
Great video. The individual skill levels of IAF and PAF pilots were fairly similar and both very good. Indians however, had better inter-branch co-ordination, resulting in them pulling more successful Combined Arms Operations. Pakistan however, likely had better airframes and more effective ground fire.
Thanks for the comment!
The Hawker was a better airframe than the Sabre, they just got hit from behind as they were trying to get away. It happens.
At the end of the conflict, Pakistan claimed 20 aircraft shot down on 4 December on the western front - 9 Su-7, 5 Hunters, 3 Canberras, 1 Gnat, 1 Marut, 1 unidentified aircraft. Of these 12 were downed in air-to-air combat, the rest by ground fire.
Thank you for the info!
NO MARUT WERE LOST IN AIR COMBAT. RATHER THEY CLAIMED 2 ENEMY AIR CRAFTS IN DOG FIGHT.BUT THERE WERE LOOSES TO MARUT DURING TAKE OFF AND LANDING MALFUNCTIONS. BUT I CAN NOT CONFIRM THERE LOSSES TO ENEMY STAFFING ATTACK.
@@kartiktiriya2265 Go read History boi.
Stop shouting @@kartiktiriya2265
and pakistan lost the war. As always the cowardly and weak Pakistan military keeps surrendering in fear. The only thing they can do is attack unarmed civilians. Pakistan military's official motto should be - "never won a war, never lost an election"
I remember the minor spat the UK had with Honduras who used P51 Mustangs against RN Buccaneers from HMS Ark Royal. Only downside was Buccaneers didnt have guns just armed with missiles
Thanks for the comment! I have to say I wasn't familiar with that incident. Perhaps it could be the topic for a video, I'll make a note.
Thank you for posting. Yes, details of the other air combat on that day is a good idea.
Thank you for watching! I will cover the other battles as well in the future.
agreed entirely.
You do better air combat documentation than an actual network would. Thank you for covering all the forgotten dogfights.
what network is that?
Well, networks are generally not into this kind of a thing :) Thank you for watching!
@@showtime112I think he means those history channel shows that animate dogfights from American wars
@@bolnol Probably. This was pretty much the only similar show. But what I meant is that this topic is too niche to be interesting to TV networks.
Beautiful video, as an Indian, love to see these events being realized by the rest of the world. 1965 and 1971 have some amazing aerial stories. I'd love it if you'd consider making a video on the Su-7BMK which got a possible gun kill on a Sidewinder armed Shenyang J-6 over Mianwali. IAF Su-7BMK of 32nd Squadron, flown by Flt Lt SS Malhotra. Nickname Mad Mally, for obvious reasons lmao.
Thank you for the feedback! I'm happy to hear that there are people from the involved countries who are not only interested in seeing their side win. I will do some Su-7 videos in the future.
@AT-bo6ww did bollywood give you this info😂... indian fighter jet was shot down and pilot caught recently .. Pakistan Airforce has always maintained its supremacy over Indian Air force. So please wake up get your facts straight maddy mally 😂
Excellent episode. It's interesting to learn more about yet another air conflict of which I know hardly anything. Please keep them coming!
I sure intend to! I myself learn while researching for such topics.
Thanks
Thank you very much for your donation!
Keep up the videos. I enjoyed hearing the story from both sides.
Thank you! I try to present both views when possible.
Thank you for this perfect little stories. And thank you for giving both sides opinion on the matter, doing this way is a sign of the professional approach.
I appreciate your positive comment!
You've done a very good job once more. Loving your content.
I'm happy to hear it, thank you!
Excellent presentation and good graphics !! really you have showed the impossible to see air battle on screen !! good job !!
Thank you very much for your positive feedback!
Nice video as always. You asked in the video whether we would be interested to see video re-enactments of the PAF claims of two more IAF hunters shot down by the PAF (which the IAF admitted) - the answer is definitely Yes please….would be great to see videos of these re-enactments.
I am very much enjoying your video re-enactments recently and I am seriously thinking of becoming a patreon supporter…
All the best and keep up the excellent work.
Sami
Thank you very much for the feedback! I will consider covering these other battles as well. Also ,thank you for considering becoming a Patreon supporter!
Another great video. Sabre and Hunter are two of the best-looking aircraft of their time, with both benefitting from German WW2 research. The Sabre’s swept wing replacing the original straight wing design NA140/XP86 after NA gained access to late war German flight research data which enabled them to get their now modified design to attain the 600mph speed laid down in the original Air Force requirement and the Hunter’s ferocious 4x30mm gun pack of ADEN cannon based upon the Mauser MK213 revolver cannon which was only at prototype stage at war’s end. The Hunter could survive far more 50cal hits from the Sabre’s Brownings than the Sabre could withstand from the ADEN’s 30mm HE rounds.
Thanks a lot! I agree that both fighters were quite elegant and cool looking. Such an exciting time in military aviation. Hunter certainly packed a heavier punch.
Are we to understand from this video that the Sabre could out-manoeuvre the Hunter?
Great video! What flight sim is that? I love these videos that enlighten us in conflicts that occurred between countries that were not superpowers! Very interesting! Thanks!
@@EfraimbiplanepilotThank you for the comment! This video was done in War Thunder.
The royal western aviation museum
In Winnipeg Canada
Has a Pakistani f86 sabre as part of its collection .
Another fabulous video,, meticulously researched as ever, with a clear balanced commentary.
It's a very positive comment, thank you for it!
You are getting better and better at these with your presentation and structure. They are really quite powerful videos now. Well done, sir!
I'm glad you think so, thank you!
EXCELLENT video, as usual. There is not much written or said about the Indo-Pakistan conflict as far as aviation history. Thanks.
Thanks Pablo! Sources exist but you need to look a bit more perhaps. That's what I love to do 😁
J.D. Webster gave us Air Superiority, Air Strike, The Speed of Heat, and a series of magazines covering his games. In one magazine he had a campaign game for an East Pakistan air base with a squadron of Sabres.
Just great. Little stories like this one aĺlows one to learn about aerial combat aroubd the globe and how the masters of the skies were born
Thanks a lot for the positive feedback!
Your research on each incident is amazing. Worthy of a doctoral dissertation.
I wouldn't necessarily go that far but thank you very much 😁
Your videos inspired me to start a animated history channel about the indian military ...great work
I'm glad to hear it. I wish you luck with your channel!
Great subject matter. More of this will be appreciated!
Thank you for the feedback! New videos coming out on a weekly basis.
Beautiful work . . Hats off to you . . 👍👍👍
I appreciate your positive comment!
Finally after a long time you made a video of Indo Pak Conflict….Loved the video❤️
I'm glad you do, thank you!
😂 you Pakistani become happy on conflicts that's why your country is that type
Please do make more videos on the Indo-Pak skirmishes -fascinating because at this point of time mid and senior level officers in both services had trained in the Royal Indian Air Force before partition of the British Raj into India and Pakistan and had fought together in WW2 Europe and Burma theaters and were very close in terms of knowing each others families & thier children having close friendships, this made the war very personal and emotional for both sides.
Thank you for the comment! Yes, it is a very interesting historical situation (although not unique). There will be more videos from Indo-Pak conflicts.
India humiliated Pakistan Bad in 1971, 93000 pakistani soldiers surrendered to Indian forces the biggest surrender ever in the history of armed wars and Pakistan was broken into 2 parts resulted in the birth of a new country called Bangladesh, few years after India again defeated Pakistan in 1999 kargil war, the Indian Airforce played a huge role in the 1971 Indian Victory.
That was an old time brother. I think you have forget your South Indian Pilot Wing Commander Abinandan who was shoot down by our Airforce and Arrest in Azad Kashmir and our SSG Commandos used to rescue him from Azad Kashmiri Public otherwise he would have been killed by the Public of Azad Kashmir Public and kindly don't forget our Fantastic tea😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂☕☕☕☕🫖☕☕☕☕☕🫖🫖🫖☕☕☕
@@mughalkhan9833 Pakistan cut down in 2 parts by India in 1971, India again humiliated Pak in 1999 kargil war, and in 2019 shot down Pakistans f16 by a Mig21. Market cap of A single Indian company TATA 360 billion dollars, Entire GDP of Pakistan 350 billion dollars, 1965, 1971,1999, 93000 was even more fantastic🤣🤣
'93,000 soldiers surrendered 😅😅' get your facts corrected. Total Pak Army in East Pakistan during 1971 war was 32,000. Total prisoners mostly included civilians, armed forces contractors etc. With regards to the dog fights among the 2 air forces, IAF faced heavy casualties with PAF knocking 102 of their aircrafts and losing 34 of their own which includes 12 F-86 Sabers that PAF destroyed in the ground themselves to avoid Indian capture. These are UN figures that can be found online.
And yet people still talk shit on France
Go and ask Manik Shaa who said Pakistan army fought very gallanly for 9 months against 15 times bigger Indian army without any military support east Pakistani Bengalis were also against Pakistan army plus millions of mukti bahini wer also fighting a gorilla war against army so lastly Bhutto teared the France resolution to stop the war in UNO...so that Pakistan army should come out from east Pakistan.
At that time Pakistan army had no choice except surrender.
A great display of F 86 sabres in the video waiting for more content on Indo Pak aerial battles ❤
Thank you very much! There will be more for sure.
Very interesting, thanks for posting.
Thank you for watching!
The Hawker Hunter is a stunningly beautiful aircraft, and having flown them they are generally a forgiving aircraft, the cockpit is a bit cluttered, but the Hunter's worst vice was if you got into an inverted flat spin it was virtually impossible to recover, so once in one under 20,000 ft, out you got.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I agree it was a very attractive design.
Sarfraz Toor was one course junior to me in the PAF Academy, but I’ve no contact with him since Dec 1971, since I’m a Bangladeshi. Wish him all the best. I feel Flg Off Tiyagi must have had gone down, unfortunately, with the aircraft, because if he had survived, definitely he would’ve been returned as a POW. The two air forces meticulously followed the Geneva Conventions.
@@ishfaqchoudhury424 Pakistan never followed Geneva convention, you forgot 1971 genocide already?
Excelent vídeo, thanks!.
Thank you for commenting!
Great video as always. Also, I wanted to know if the IAF skin was from WT Live or did you made it yourself
Thanks a lot! The skin was my own improvisation as I couldn't find anything on WT Live.
Its always good to see the intricacies involved in 1965 and 1971 Indo-Pak wars.
We only know the results of the war but these small intricacies are often missed.
Thank you for the comment!
Gran video y muy bien documentado. Ojalá pueda realizar otro, con el Hawker Hunter como protagonista, es realmente muy bello avión, el último de los clásicos. Saludos y felicitaciones por tan buen canal.
Thank you very much for the positive feedback!
Qué suerte estar subscrito a este canal.
Muchas gracias por el vídeo!
Thank you for appreciating it!
Want to see more of this please.
Many Thanks
Thank you for commenting, more videos to come!
Great video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent work
My father (late) was an eye witness of that fight saber vs hunter. The hunter was shot down by saber.
Thank you very much for sharing the information!
Amazing! Due to this video, after 43 years of listening the true story of the crashed Indian Jet near my village, from my elders and villagers, today I came to know the name of Indian Pilot who lost his life with his crashing Indian Jet. As per my late grandfather and his three brothers (Indian Jet's 1971 Crash eye-witnesses); In 1971 Indo-Pak War, only one Indian jet invading Murid Air Base (Chakwal District) had crashed as 2 low-flying Pakistani jets were closely chasing it and that Indian Jet couldn't avoid hitting Mountain's Peak (just less than 1Km from native village or aerial distance 23 Kms east of Murid Base) in Dil-Jabba Mountain Range (District Chakwal). The 1971 jet crash site was also evident of human remains and IAF's logo on the jet. Hence, unfortunately Indian Pilot Flying Officer Sudhir Tiyagi had certainly lost his life with his crashed jet as I have several times visited the mountainous Indian jet's 1971's crash site.
Good video. The Indian-Pakistani conflicts are often overlooked. Kudos for presenting information from both sides too.
Thank you, I'm happy that you appreciate this kind of a content.
This is one of those confusing skirmishes where it’s hard to know which sides account to believe!
Basically most modern wars
Well, there's the Official Indian History which makes no claims of Pakistani airplanes shot down so I tend to believe that version.
Make video on Flying Officer Nirmaljit Sekhon's defence of Srinagar Airbase, only IAF soldier to win Paramveer Chakra, India's highest military honour equivalent to Victoria Cross in UK
This is a Pakistani channel...
Forget the Mirages. Great video!
Thank you for the positive comment!
Yes i would like to see more like this please and thanks very much friend....
Old F-4 Phantom 2 Shoe🇺🇸
Thank you for letting me know! I will cover more of these stories in the future for sure.
The animation quality of these videos is astonishing. I guess the F86F could out turn a Hunter? Do you know if either side wore G suits? I'm guessing not since that Pakistani aviator blacked out in a level hard turn.
Yes..the IAF wore g-suits.
The Hunter could outturn the Sabre at higher speeds.
Thanks for the positive comment! I believe that they had g-suits but even if you have one, you can still black yourself out. No fly-by-wire on these aircraft and you could easily pull too hard.
Contested claims in air combat is not surprising considering the confusion involved. But the Indian and Pakistani conflicts and their claims are something else... honestly the nationalism in contested claims seems to really color things compared to other conflicts. As always loss records and cross data examination reveals the best picture.
A good video.
Thank you very much! India and Pakistan are an 'unresolved' conflict and there's a lot of heat from both sides. That's why I'm sometimes reluctant to cover these stories as I tend to get comments I really, really prefer not to :)
Flying officer Sudhir Tyagi indeed shot down a pakistani saber. See this .
When attacking the enemy airfield, Fg Offr Sudhir Tyagi spotted an enemy aircraft close on the tail of the leader of the mission. He engaged the aircraft and shot it down. An enemy Mirage and two Sabres closed in on him. In the ensuing battle, in spite of being outnumbered, he fought valiantly though his aircraft was shot down. The name of Fg Offr Sudhir Tyagi, was reportedly announced over Pakistan Radio on 05 Dec 1971 as having been captured.
Our Indian fighters are far more capable in combat roles than the Pakistanis.
Cope idol worshipper. You air force was dominated in 1965 despite heavily outnumbering Pakistani aircrafts.
Pakistanis have a 100% win record against Israeli pilots while flying Soviet jets. Israeli fighter pilots are feared everywhere.
You air force was dominated in 1965 despite heavily outnumbering Pakistani aircrafts.
Pakistanis have a 100% win record against Israeli pilots while flying Soviet jets.
@@maquacr7014 Making tall/fake claims is very easy. Comparing urself with Israelis is like comparing a Cow dung with a Diamond. Israelis are very educated nd skillfull unlike the Pakistanis who are corrupt and fake.
@@maquacr7014 And in 1965 war. You had the hand of America over you. Hence, you had F 104 starfighter, F86 saber the most advanced aircrafts of that time. We only had hunters, maruts, gnats, vampire etc which were no match. But you guys were still challenged and defeated by our skillful pilots.
@@sayanbiswas6713 So what? Having American tech is a double edged sword. Pakistan found that out when it was sanctioned immediately after 1965 war and again in 90s.
Another great video 😊
Thank you very much for the positive comment!
Folland Gnats were active also I believe with only Two 20m/m cannon and they scored aswell?Could be interesting if possible. Thanks.Be Blessed
Gnats were very much active in 1965 and 1971. Unfortunately, no simulation features them. Hopefully, that will change in the future.
Great video.
Thanks a lot!
You Sir, deserve standing ovation for keeping your videos and channel Independent and stating the facts. Instead of pushing indian propaganda. Had you been following indian narrative, you would have 4M subs, 2M videos on each video and invitation to indian news channels as a chief guest.
Well, thank you for the praise! I'm not sure of all these subs and views but who knows :)
Fld Marshal Sam Manekshaw. A name that should never be forgotten when comes about the 1971 war.
Very nice graphics. From a Sim?
Thanks! It's from War Thunder.
It is not a matter of sophistication of machines, but the man behind machines that runs it
Generally, yes. But it also helps to have a good machine :)
How am I only finding this channel *now* ? I've always wanted to see historical scenarios played out using War Thunder. Fantastic work! A request if I may: Could you do a video on the story of the German F-104 that flew emergency medication to a little girl in Sardinia with 24 hours to live? The trip was successful and the girl was saved thanks to numerous civilian and military forces, forgoing of protocols, shortcuts through red tape and perhaps most of all the pilot: Lieutenant Jürgen Gundling. I believe the girl's name was Jessica?...
I hope there's plenty more people like you who haven't discovered the channel yet :) I'll make note of your suggestion. It's different from what I normally do but it might even work.
@@showtime112 I'll be sure to share the channel in my War Thunder groups, there has to be an overlap of interest!
@@Gamatech123Thank you for it!
Please make videos on the legendary commander of PAF Squadron Leader Sajjad Haider's famous strike on the Pathankot airbase in the 1965 war and his strike on the Wahgha-Atari border that saved Lahore from Indian onslaught.
Thank you for the suggestion! I might cover that topic someday.
That war was lost by Pakistan
@@indian.1017The war might have been lost, however the Pakistani airforce definitely defeated Indian air force.
@@therealdoctory-roblox3844 are you mad from mind 😂 Pakistan air force win and Pakistan lose! How useless is this statement? Pakistan air force is a protective force of Pakistan. If Pakistan lost war it simply means no matter how good is it's aircraft or anything else. He lost
@@therealdoctory-roblox3844 lol
Indian turned Tyagis story into Bollywood bro 😂
Your work is fantastic. Could you please do Israeli Ouragans vs Egyptian Vampires and Mig-15s?
I'm happy you appreciate it! I intend to cover the topic you suggested. Some interesting battles occurred in the 1956 War but I need to unlock some more aircraft in WT.
@@showtime112 that’s great news to hear. I can’t wait to watch them . We use your videos to inspire us for our miniature wargaming events.
We are currently working on scenarios based on your A6M2-N videos!
Thank you for listening my reply 💗💗💗💗
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Your impartial and independent research is the best way to know the air warfare history. Also feeling pained for the POWs still in jail and never returned home, they were serving their motherland similarly to million of talented youths serving their own countries. They aren't criminals and keeping them as missing person is barbaric. Thank you that you spoke about the pilot possibility still in jail. We look forward for many more videos from you on airfare of Indian subcontinent.
Thank you very much for the time you took to write this comment! There will be more videos about these conflicts, one of them quite soon.
His research is from Pakistani sources. He has already mentioned his sources. On the other hand, there is evidence that Sudhir Tyagi shot down one of their aircraft before being shot down himself. These white people underestimate India.
His research is from Pakistani sources. He has already mentioned his sources. On the other hand, there is evidence that Sudhir Tyagi shot down one of their aircraft before being shot down himself. .
As a person living near Murid Airbase i didn't knew it had so much importance Thanks for your information
Thank you for watching!
Certainly not forgotten by me.Chiefly I try to defend History against those new generations that wish to make a name by altering the names ,pronounciations of names and downright miss information by expressing their views without adviseing the reader of it being unsubstantiated opinion etc. True History Forever Please. Keep the Fairy stories for the Fairies Thankyou. So mankind will be able to properly identify to events so then avoid makeing Historical mistakes ? OK. Be Blessed and Thanks for the Article here.Well done real nostalgae I am Octogenerian.Excuse poor English I am living abroad leaving UK when 21. An Expat.
Thank you very much for an elaborate comment!
I need to learn more about the Hunter.
This was a good start.
Go Showtime 112 go !!
Go Showtime 112 go !!
(Cheering).
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There will be more. Thank you for the constant support!
Another great story with a very good chosen music like films 👍🏻
Thank you, I'm happy to hear you liked it!
Better than any funny Indian channel. 😂
The Indian-Pakistani conflicts are crazy interesting but you hardly get a thing in English or German!
Third World conflicts generally get less attention, that's true.
Interesting video. Now, how about making another one, Sabres vs Gnats?
I'd like that. Sadly, Gnat isn't available in any sim. I hope they introduce it someday.
Nice video 👍
Hvala!
Excellent video, thank you. How much of an edge did the Sidewinder give the Pakistani and indeed other air forces at that time?
As the most iconic missile of the period, it would be really interesting to have an analysis!!
Gteat video covering this conflict which is little to not known of in the West in detail. Glad to see these classic war horses fighting each other. Interesting comments are given to provide for more insight in the conflict. Thanks for all you Showtime 112! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇸🏁🇮🇱🇺🇦🔱🌻🏵️💮🌸🌼🏴☠️🏹
A Little something was sent your way as well.
Nothing like a good classic jet duel :) Thank you for being around to watch it!
I have received your donation, I am very grateful for the support!
Nice job with the video. War Thunder?
Thanks! Yes, it is made in War Thunder.
What map is this bro is this Marianas?
And please tell me the airbase name also 🙏
This is actually Khalkhin Gol in War Thunder. There, you can also place airbase presets anywhere on the map (unlike in DCS)
I’d like to see more, for sure.
Great jets.
Great stories.
Thank you very much for your feedback!
could you do a video on the Libyan Egyptian war in 1977?
2:22 I live near the Mianwali Airbase. Watched F-7PG landings from my university everyday.
Thank you for sharing!
Great video, show us more about the Sabbers of Pakistan !!!
Thank you for the feedback! There will be more videos in the future as well.
Great job ! Sidewinder 9B was awful but it was only a question of time before becoming a best-seller
Thanks! Yes, it was a pretty limited weapon but it could work well under the right circumstances.
Amazing video
Glad you think so! Thanks!
Great video. 0:15 Dude with a tennis racket?
So it seems, it puzzled me too :) Thanks for the comment!
nice video as always, I suggest that you show the spec card of the aircraft involved, as I am eager about the top speed of Hunter and sabre but i have to look in Google...
Thank you for the comment and the suggestion!
Hello, your videos reminded me of Dogfights series from 2006-07, amazing work. Can you make a video on the events of Feb 27, 2019 Border skirmish ?
Great simulation. What simulator is used ?
It's War Thunder.
Difference between iaf and paf is paf never admit their loses and always tries to glorify their achievements so its quite difficult to know what really happened
Actually, the Indian Official History clearly admits the losses.
Yes always 😅
Taqiyya. 😂
@@showtime112but pak didnt, thats what he meant
@@planeloverpilot4802 True, my bad. But still, Kaiser Tufail lists 26 Pakistani aircraft losses in the 1971 war (not including the aircraft captured in the East). Ten of those were lost in air combat. So, it's not exactly 'never'.
Huters were awesome. It was hightly agile and hard to shoot down. The pakistanis thought of them as irritant. Mosquitoes..biting and skooting.
It was certainly a very successful design.
What's the whole results of the war as compared to the air force's of both sides in 71 war
Congratulations from Brazil
Muito obrigado!
Great history, thanks! The Hunter was now the hunted. I couldn't resist.
In the world of fighter airplanes, there roles are not fixed :)
Bro ur best
You embarrass me with such comments :)
Am am i good😢 bro?
Don't sad with me i always with you 😢😢🤗🤗.
Is there a possibility of showing Dassault Ourugan and Mystere IV planes that were used in historical combat operations.
Not at this moment but there will be such a possibility in the future.
Correction plz, Sabre has been installed with 50 BMG guns, not the 12.7
You are apparently not aware that this is the same thing.
Good to se you again on Ind-o-Pak
Well, there's plenty left to cover there. Thank you for commenting!
Hello this is wonderful! Can you do Pathankot Strike by PAF and MM Alam World Record Re-enactment. Thanks!
Thank you! I will probably cover these stories in the future but I can't tell you exactly when.
good stuff. always appreciate showings of the indo-pakistan wars that ain't propaganda of either side
canadair sabre ✊✊
Thank you very much, I'm happy that you feel this way.