It's this type of quality content that keeps me coming back to your channel. I'm not surprised the oem setup is best. When infinity made this car to compete against the Germans, there's no way they would leave ANYTHING on the table.
Thanks a lot!! And Nissan has been using this platform since the early 2000s so they’ve had tons of time to refine it. To think that they did not maximize the intake system is crazy
Awesome you were able to do a side by side comparison! I also never intended to run an aftermarket intake on my Q50 but when going through the tuning process with Nick at SOHO they strongly recommended the Takeda intakes. I guess if nothing else they look pretty cool in the engine bay lol!
Even speaking with Nik in this video, takeda intakes will yield very little performance gains over factory intakes. If you are going to buy intakes, They recommend takeda because they retain the factory air boxes
@@SpeedCultureStudios I see makes sense, I wonder if the smaller pipe diameter helps as well. I believe the Takeda is 2.75 inches smaller in comparison to your test set up I should say with the 3 inches.
Had a belt issue the second day I bought the car and got that fixed. Realized I was low on coolant and in the process of figuring that out but besides that coolant issue, the car is running strong and all my temps are good. The power band is so extremely different than the VQ and am actually getting better 0-60s stock on my VR than I was with the VQ a couple weeks ago. In my opinion there’s not a better feeling than driving a turbo car lol overall very happy I got the car and can’t wait for my JB4 to come in.
This is good info. I read and researched about aftermarket intakes and I came to the realization that the stock box and silicone hoses with drop in performance dry air filters are the way to go. That’s what I have in my qx50 3.7l. I’am not changing a thing. I seen dyno after dyno that aftermaket intakes lose power.
Great info and data. One thing to consider here is that if your motor is not needing more air, Giving it more will not do anything. Also..was this test on Stock manifold and TB? Larger Intakes will reduce Air velocity with out anything else done to the intake system. So this all makes sense. And it's been seen over and over again on the dynos. This the reason I have not even considered intakes, drop in filter with Z1 tubes and call it day.
This is what I’ve been telling people for 2 years now and is one thing that people have thrown hate at me for the most lol. The sole purpose was get on the dyno and prove my point-or admit to being wrong. Now the real time data shows that I have been correct! Thanks for checking in!
@@SpeedCultureStudios yeah, I think people get upset when they spend $$$ on a product and then get told that it doesn't work. Lol. It's not like you are making any of this up, I mean the data is there. Lol.
LOL I know the feeling when you spend a bunch of money and the car goes slower than before :-(. I have seen on other videos that the stock airbox is the best option out of all of them.
Yep. This is what I’ve been saying for 2 years but people hated to hear it, despite all the data. It was great to get on the dyno and give real time data and comparisons to prove this point
I have a q50 but spend most my time working on 30+ year old cars. The factory air boxes on old car are often cracked, old, and unavailable. Aftermarket is the only way to go in those cases. Anyway most aftermarket intakes are just hot air intakes and you got to fab up boxes, and piping to get them to work right.
You and I both have said over and over again, the factory intake setup on these vq's is 99.9% of the time, the best option.. Even going back to the old SR20's and 1st gen vq's... They put a lot of energy into these intakes.. Same with the v8's.. Saw a 5hp loss with intakes on the q70 5.6.
@@stickemup18111 started with a K&N drop in dry filter, then a wet filter. Then a K&N long tube intake on the factory box. Next was an injen kit with their filter box. After that i had a local shop do a custom CAI. I saw no gains whatsoever with either K&N option. And even saw a 5bhp loss on an AEM kit. I saw 3 bhp with the injen kit on their filter box. Saw 4 bhp with the tru cold air custom setup.. Sooooo anywhere from .8 to 1.1 whp????? It never ran right on colder days, and had a funky wet sounding idle... Very sluggish off the jump with every setup, almost like it was flooded.. But there was a touch of higher top end performance... Overall, best option is to relocate the factory box for a tru cold air setup, and have it retuned...
@@mikeschaner5853 I have had good results from the airaid mxp on my vk with no issues. Granted I do have full exhaust and tune. But I have never seen bad reviews of the airaid compared to stock box. Have seen many people go from the modified stock box to airaid.
the issue with the larger intake tubes , is they slow velocity , with velocity , you lose heat. slower velocity allows more wicking of heat from parts and underhood temps to the actual inlet airflow being its moving slower, so exposed longer .
Interesting stuff... I ended up swapping out my stock intake with the aFe Power Takeda intake and haven't noticed any loss in power whatsoever (but no gain either, obviously). The Takeda intake pretty closely resembles the stock intake though. I would've stuck with the stock intake but the plastic is horrendous quality, really brittle, and I just didn't want to deal with it.
There's no shame in admiting you like the looks of an intake over stock air box. Lol. aFe are not bad of a product though. I personally don't think the stock box looks that bad once the Z1 tubes goes in. I bet the aFe intake creats a bit more induction noise. That is sometimes a preference over stock intakes regardless if there's no power to be made. BMW E90 V8 guys upgrade their intakes just for that sound alone. I love induction noises. Haha.
My factory air box clips were broken and were a pain to keep in place. Went with the takeda afe replacement because it was basically the same price if not cheaper than getting new factory air boxes. 👍
Great video very helpful! Is there a difference from a performance standpoint between the more popular (at least i believe they are) k&n oiled drop ins vs the afe dry filters?
i really like the video and the idea behind it, i just don’t get how admin him self makes more power when the cars he tuned switched from 2.5” to his 3”, but you switched to 3” intakes at soho and the intakes made you lose power, but he makes more power with them… also one thing to consider is most people use e85 with these intakes. since you’re bringing in more air you can make use of more octane, and therefore more advanced timing without detonation. so yes if we’re just adding more air to the mix with 3” intakes but aren’t adding more fuel to the mix then you still could only make the same power or less like we seen. just my thoughts, but overall a great video with good information, and i really like the R&D you do for the community.
I don’t think “most” people are on e85 with the intakes, but as I’ve always said, the g37 responds better to intakes, which is what admin tuned mostly. You also have to understand that admin is trying to sell you HIS 3” intakes. And my car didn’t lose power-it just dropped power compared to drop in filters. My car was already tuned, don’t forget. So if I would have installed these 3” intakes and tuned it for the first time, these would have been gains. But compared to factory air boxes, they are no good.
The Q50 Factory are boxes on build way different from the 370s, and the G37. From 2014-15 Q50 they built them more efficiently. And the Q50 final drive ratio is also different
If I am looking to tune in the future you think it would be better just to buy the aFe filters instead of buying an aftermarket intake? I see a lot of tuners recommend an intake for their tune.
Factory air boxes and filters make the most sense. That’s the whole point of this video. You can spend $500 on intakes if you want but you might only see 2-5 hp peak
I don’t think z1 or AMS has 3.7 intakes. Both companies are great, but you also have to remember that companies are trying to sell a product. They aren’t going to tell you that it doesn’t do anything. This video just proved that 3” intakes don’t do anything for the 3.7. I have nothing to gain by telling people certain mods don’t work. Just sharing actual results and information.
From what I’m hearing the factory airboxes on the 3.0t perform very well-Nik from soho motorsports told me that he’s yet to see anyone need anything more from intake.
I wonder how Actual Cold Air Intakes would perform vs the stock air boxes.(Custom made like how freshhkiicks did on his q50) The test you did doesn't really surprise me because even switching to 3" intakes you still have them in the enginebay sucking up all that hot air so of course your going to loose a lil power vs the stock air boxes that's actually designed for cold air direction getting help from the radiator cover.
I discussed all of this in the video. The hood is open and fans blowing into the intakes so it really isn’t pulling that much heat into the engine in this case so the expectation was to pick up some power although yes in regular driving with the hood down, hot air intakes are no good. 3” long tubes intakes help keep the air cool but have been shown over and over to provide little if any hp gains in the Q50. The G responds a bit better but the Q sees nothing in power gains from intakes. Nik at Soho confirmed that this day which I mentioned in the video.
I'd like to see some variants on the catback, im looking at basing a 2.5 dual system for my a6 3.0t off yours, ill be running test pipes, but thinking about running either magnaflow or borla pro xs rear mufflers
Yeah I’d love to do a lot more testing but my 2.25” catback made 333/284. My 2.5” catback made 334/276 in very similar conditions. Now we see what the 2.25” test pipes did with the 2.5” catback, but have to consider it is 40 degrees warmer and much higher humidity
@@SpeedCultureStudios I'd be at around 400bhp with a 91 tune and stock converters/2" dual exhaust, I'm wondering if upgrading the catback would be worth it, or just do test pipes
@@KenyonPayne turbos like exhaust flow but I’d say cats are much more of a restriction than the catback. Obviously you run into compliance issues with eliminating cats though
I’m not all that familiar with the brand but the Q does not respond all that well to intakes. If you really want intakes than 3” long tubes would be the way to go-except you have to modify the core support to run 3” which is not ideal
It is a custom catback system that has come to be known as the SCS Catback system, which you may have heard me reference in the video. All components can be had for around $350. Then you have to consider whatever a local exhaust shop will charge to piece it all together.
Hey. So I just got a 2018 3.0 AWD Luxe Q50 with like 20k miles. I’m gonna drive it for a year or two before I go all out and spend 100k on a dream car. So I wanted to know, let’s say I’m willing to spend 2000-2500$ on after market stuff on it. What do you recommend? Can you put together a shopping list for me? Back in the 90s when I had Supra’s and Rx7s and 240s I’d do like exhaust, chip, intake. Do people still kinda follow that model? I spent the last decade in nyc without a car. Feel free to go above 2500$. It’s a soft cap lol. Thank you in advance!!!
I’d be willing to make a donation to the channel if you’d advise me. Like 50$. If we can communicate through text or email and if I have a couple questions you can help.
Really depends on what you’re going for. If you’re looking for power you could do exhaust and a tune and be making great power with that platform and would be around $2500 total, but that would leave you with a lot of power and tires that couldn’t handle it. Or if you’re satisfied with the power and just want to to handle a bit better, look at tires and suspension +sway bars. I have a couple of videos about best way to spend $1000 owns mods I’d pursue first etc. they are more tailored to the 3.7 Q50, but many of them cross over
I appreciate that, but you don’t need to donate! That’s very generous! You can always message me on Instagram or email me at speedandmayhem@gmail.com. I try to keep up with messages as best I can. I also have t shirts for sale through my RUclips store and have key chains and decals available if you’d like to support the channel.
@@SpeedCultureStudios Yeah one thing I read about these that I didn’t love was the body roll. I definitely want to address that with some sway bars or something. Good point. What about these “race chip” brand chips? I can add like 50hp for 450$. I want speed and I want it to drive solid. So perhaps that. Chip, intake, sway bars, tires. Maybe also suspension??? Thank you so much man. It’s been like 12 years since I tuned a car in any way.
@@christophersalko9851 I don't like the chip idea for these more modern cars honestly. JB4 is a good plug and play option for the 3.0t if you don't want to go with an actual tune. People have had great success with that and there are a ton of videos about it on youtube. These are big heavy cars so body roll is a problem if you take corners at spirited rates. Sway bars make a huge difference and have been one of my favorite upgrades. Decent tires are night and day compared to the factory tires as well, and suspension goes a long way of course.
would be nice if someone made maybe a oem plus intake box, havent seen no one do that yet for the vq37vhr... i would have kept my oem intake but the boxs were in bad shape from prev. owner.
did you say what gas octane you were on? 91 or 93/4 ? numbers are good in my eyes. for what the car has been through id stay its pretty stable. stay safe duder!
@speedculturestudios do you know anyone that is running a dual in 2.5 to a single out 3” single exit borla muffler pared with flow master muffler I’m very close to doing this set up on my 3.7 q50
I wouldn't go so far as the worry about mileage nowadays, my 2014 Q50 is at 189,000 made 340 at the rear wheels and never seen the back of a tow truck since I bought it back in 2014
Would UPT intakes make a difference much longer with better airflow and aren’t getting much heat soak as they come to the front lower grill of the car look into those and make a vid!
I mention them in this video. Length doesn't change flow, but it does help keep temps cool. The Q50 doesn't respond all that much to increased air volume as we showed in this test, so longer and wider intakes are only good for maybe a couple hp up top.
@@joshrichie9833 I don’t know that the factory boxes need heat protection but it wouldn’t hurt. The intake air temps stayed consistent pull after pull with the factory boxes so they are doing a good job keeping cool air coming in
No because the factory air boxes kept the temps pretty low. I suppose there is potential to keep them cooler than ambient temps but it’d just get me back to my best numbers of 334/276 which isn’t a huge difference
But do they? They pick up power because they go from a baseline number and then a tuned number with intakes. We don’t know how much power can actually be attributed to the intakes. Only one real side by side comparison has been done and the gains were minimal. I forget the channel name now but it’s out there!
@@jcproductions89 I would never dump the money into the q that it would take to boost and manual swap. But a new Z would be rad. I’m sure soho will jump in one themselves too. Hard to start modding a $40k brand new car too lol. I’m not on that level yet!
Yo I got an idea for you secret weapons 🤔 try them I’m sure we want to see the difference and you should’ve went with that idea other than these… we knew they weren’t good to being with.
@@phantoment.3280 the Weapon R intakes would not be better-they may actually be worse because the MAF tube is actually smaller so the only difference from the stock intakes is that they’d be sucking hot air with no benefit from increased volume.
Well look at that, and I thought it was gonna be abit better but worse just like those short ram, that’s sucks, they make it seem like there hot stuff lol but guess you gotta stick with the basics and a couple of different components.
They definitely pull in heat, but don’t miss the fact that even the first pull with 3” intakes lost power compared to factory air boxes-before heat was an issue.
I agree and disagree. Do the same video with a G37 admintuning intakes has a proven track record for gains, but they are expensive, and require a tune. I know that he don't got any intake for Q50 your right about short rams nothing new.
I agree and disagree lol. I’ve discussed this before-the G responds to intakes better than the Q. The Q just doesn’t need the additional air. Long tube intakes on the Q would yield minimal gains over stock even if there were any available. Soho agreed with this while we were discussing intakes. Admin 3” intakes have never actually shown real gains because no one has ever tuned the car with stock air boxes or takedas, for example, then swapped in admins and retuned. I have only seen 1 side by side comparison between takedas and admins on a G and they gained 2 hp. They were disappointed by the cost, effort to install, for minimal gains. I can’t recall the channel now but it can be found.
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It's this type of quality content that keeps me coming back to your channel. I'm not surprised the oem setup is best. When infinity made this car to compete against the Germans, there's no way they would leave ANYTHING on the table.
Thanks a lot!! And Nissan has been using this platform since the early 2000s so they’ve had tons of time to refine it. To think that they did not maximize the intake system is crazy
Do you get anything, other than looks, with a intake runner tubes? I'm sure you have a video that covers it
@@tykedogtyke yeah just looks. Cleans up the engine bay a bit
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I just ordered the AFE filters for my stock air box on my 3.0t due to seeing several comparisons about this same topic. Thanks for posting!
SOHO confirmed that as well. Factory intakes for 3.0t are hard to beat as well
Awesome you were able to do a side by side comparison! I also never intended to run an aftermarket intake on my Q50 but when going through the tuning process with Nick at SOHO they strongly recommended the Takeda intakes. I guess if nothing else they look pretty cool in the engine bay lol!
Even speaking with Nik in this video, takeda intakes will yield very little performance gains over factory intakes. If you are going to buy intakes, They recommend takeda because they retain the factory air boxes
@@SpeedCultureStudios I see makes sense, I wonder if the smaller pipe diameter helps as well. I believe the Takeda is 2.75 inches smaller in comparison to your test set up I should say with the 3 inches.
@@Dreamevil2009 possibly
Great video man! Glad I took your word early on when I had my VQ.
How are you liking the 3.0t?
Had a belt issue the second day I bought the car and got that fixed. Realized I was low on coolant and in the process of figuring that out but besides that coolant issue, the car is running strong and all my temps are good. The power band is so extremely different than the VQ and am actually getting better 0-60s stock on my VR than I was with the VQ a couple weeks ago. In my opinion there’s not a better feeling than driving a turbo car lol overall very happy I got the car and can’t wait for my JB4 to come in.
This is good info. I read and researched about aftermarket intakes and I came to the realization that the stock box and silicone hoses with drop in performance dry air filters are the way to go. That’s what I have in my qx50 3.7l. I’am not changing a thing. I seen dyno after dyno that aftermaket intakes lose power.
People hate to hear that! I’ve been talking about this for 3 years and people fight me so hard, but it’s just true!
Great info and data. One thing to consider here is that if your motor is not needing more air, Giving it more will not do anything. Also..was this test on Stock manifold and TB? Larger Intakes will reduce Air velocity with out anything else done to the intake system. So this all makes sense. And it's been seen over and over again on the dynos. This the reason I have not even considered intakes, drop in filter with Z1 tubes and call it day.
This is what I’ve been telling people for 2 years now and is one thing that people have thrown hate at me for the most lol. The sole purpose was get on the dyno and prove my point-or admit to being wrong. Now the real time data shows that I have been correct!
Thanks for checking in!
@@SpeedCultureStudios yeah, I think people get upset when they spend $$$ on a product and then get told that it doesn't work. Lol. It's not like you are making any of this up, I mean the data is there. Lol.
@@samchoc6811 exactly right. Don’t get mad at me lol.
LOL I know the feeling when you spend a bunch of money and the car goes slower than before :-(. I have seen on other videos that the stock airbox is the best option out of all of them.
Yep. This is what I’ve been saying for 2 years but people hated to hear it, despite all the data. It was great to get on the dyno and give real time data and comparisons to prove this point
Nissan put A LOT of thought and engineering into these intakes.. Even on the vk's the factory setup is very hard to improve on..
@@mikeschaner5853 exactly.
@@SpeedCultureStudios what about the k&n drop in filters?
@@thesamur1813 aFe dry
This is good stuff! Thanks for testing this out
Thanks for watching!
I have a q50 but spend most my time working on 30+ year old cars. The factory air boxes on old car are often cracked, old, and unavailable. Aftermarket is the only way to go in those cases. Anyway most aftermarket intakes are just hot air intakes and you got to fab up boxes, and piping to get them to work right.
also i really like the exhaust noise
^^^
She’s a beauty
You and I both have said over and over again, the factory intake setup on these vq's is 99.9% of the time, the best option.. Even going back to the old SR20's and 1st gen vq's... They put a lot of energy into these intakes.. Same with the v8's.. Saw a 5hp loss with intakes on the q70 5.6.
Which intake did you go with on your VK?
@@stickemup18111 started with a K&N drop in dry filter, then a wet filter. Then a K&N long tube intake on the factory box. Next was an injen kit with their filter box. After that i had a local shop do a custom CAI. I saw no gains whatsoever with either K&N option. And even saw a 5bhp loss on an AEM kit. I saw 3 bhp with the injen kit on their filter box. Saw 4 bhp with the tru cold air custom setup.. Sooooo anywhere from .8 to 1.1 whp????? It never ran right on colder days, and had a funky wet sounding idle... Very sluggish off the jump with every setup, almost like it was flooded.. But there was a touch of higher top end performance... Overall, best option is to relocate the factory box for a tru cold air setup, and have it retuned...
@@stickemup18111 TBH, your money would be better spent in exhaust work, or even a simple tune
Uh admintuning intakes has a proven track record for gains, but they are expensive, and require a tune.
@@mikeschaner5853 I have had good results from the airaid mxp on my vk with no issues. Granted I do have full exhaust and tune. But I have never seen bad reviews of the airaid compared to stock box. Have seen many people go from the modified stock box to airaid.
the issue with the larger intake tubes , is they slow velocity , with velocity , you lose heat. slower velocity allows more wicking of heat from parts and underhood temps to the actual inlet airflow being its moving slower, so exposed longer .
Interesting point!
Interesting stuff... I ended up swapping out my stock intake with the aFe Power Takeda intake and haven't noticed any loss in power whatsoever (but no gain either, obviously). The Takeda intake pretty closely resembles the stock intake though. I would've stuck with the stock intake but the plastic is horrendous quality, really brittle, and I just didn't want to deal with it.
There's no shame in admiting you like the looks of an intake over stock air box. Lol. aFe are not bad of a product though. I personally don't think the stock box looks that bad once the Z1 tubes goes in. I bet the aFe intake creats a bit more induction noise. That is sometimes a preference over stock intakes regardless if there's no power to be made. BMW E90 V8 guys upgrade their intakes just for that sound alone. I love induction noises. Haha.
Yep if you’re going to do intakes, choose takeda to keep the air boxes
My factory air box clips were broken and were a pain to keep in place. Went with the takeda afe replacement because it was basically the same price if not cheaper than getting new factory air boxes. 👍
@@dylansimmons4057 Yep that's precisely why I did it too. The stock air boxes aren't worth it if you have to replace them. The plastic is really cheap
@@dylansimmons4057 my clips are broken on my air box too , did the takeda kit come with clips for it ?
I have a takeda afe cold air intake stage 2 I haven’t put it on yet tho
Great video very helpful! Is there a difference from a performance standpoint between the more popular (at least i believe they are) k&n oiled drop ins vs the afe dry filters?
You just hear K&N more but the dry filters are best.
i really like the video and the idea behind it, i just don’t get how admin him self makes more power when the cars he tuned switched from 2.5” to his 3”, but you switched to 3” intakes at soho and the intakes made you lose power, but he makes more power with them…
also one thing to consider is most people use e85 with these intakes. since you’re bringing in more air you can make use of more octane, and therefore more advanced timing without detonation. so yes if we’re just adding more air to the mix with 3” intakes but aren’t adding more fuel to the mix then you still could only make the same power or less like we seen. just my thoughts, but overall a great video with good information, and i really like the R&D you do for the community.
I don’t think “most” people are on e85 with the intakes, but as I’ve always said, the g37 responds better to intakes, which is what admin tuned mostly. You also have to understand that admin is trying to sell you HIS 3” intakes. And my car didn’t lose power-it just dropped power compared to drop in filters. My car was already tuned, don’t forget. So if I would have installed these 3” intakes and tuned it for the first time, these would have been gains. But compared to factory air boxes, they are no good.
The Q50 Factory are boxes on build way different from the 370s, and the G37. From 2014-15 Q50 they built them more efficiently. And the Q50 final drive ratio is also different
@@tashaunsoto6940 I also believe that they use a different exhaust manifold that flows better.
@@latino914 yeah I did hear that a couple times bout 3.7 q50 stock headers flow real well.
If I am looking to tune in the future you think it would be better just to buy the aFe filters instead of buying an aftermarket intake? I see a lot of tuners recommend an intake for their tune.
Factory air boxes and filters make the most sense. That’s the whole point of this video. You can spend $500 on intakes if you want but you might only see 2-5 hp peak
if you put bigger intakes dont you think you need more fuel? whats your opinion on ported upper and lower?
No more fuel necessary-plenty left.
I have not seen gains from ported upper and lowers. Had a friend actually lose power
So what about the z1 intakes because they post dyno results showing improvement? Same with ams
I don’t think z1 or AMS has 3.7 intakes. Both companies are great, but you also have to remember that companies are trying to sell a product. They aren’t going to tell you that it doesn’t do anything. This video just proved that 3” intakes don’t do anything for the 3.7. I have nothing to gain by telling people certain mods don’t work. Just sharing actual results and information.
@@SpeedCultureStudios oh dude I'm sorry I'm stoned didn't even realize this was for the 3.7 😂😂😂
I agree with you about the factory air box but I took my out because it just takes to much space.
Will 3 inch CAI perform a lot better on the 3.0T as compared to the VQ? Trying to fabricate my own intakes
From what I’m hearing the factory airboxes on the 3.0t perform very well-Nik from soho motorsports told me that he’s yet to see anyone need anything more from intake.
@@SpeedCultureStudios would you recommend a 3 inch piping for the custom exhaust on 3.0T? Looking for a good growl and also max power
@@macturbo1z754 yes.
I wonder how Actual Cold Air Intakes would perform vs the stock air boxes.(Custom made like how freshhkiicks did on his q50) The test you did doesn't really surprise me because even switching to 3" intakes you still have them in the enginebay sucking up all that hot air so of course your going to loose a lil power vs the stock air boxes that's actually designed for cold air direction getting help from the radiator cover.
I discussed all of this in the video. The hood is open and fans blowing into the intakes so it really isn’t pulling that much heat into the engine in this case so the expectation was to pick up some power although yes in regular driving with the hood down, hot air intakes are no good. 3” long tubes intakes help keep the air cool but have been shown over and over to provide little if any hp gains in the Q50. The G responds a bit better but the Q sees nothing in power gains from intakes. Nik at Soho confirmed that this day which I mentioned in the video.
@@SpeedCultureStudiosinteresting good to know!
I'd like to see some variants on the catback, im looking at basing a 2.5 dual system for my a6 3.0t off yours, ill be running test pipes, but thinking about running either magnaflow or borla pro xs rear mufflers
Yeah I’d love to do a lot more testing but my 2.25” catback made 333/284. My 2.5” catback made 334/276 in very similar conditions. Now we see what the 2.25” test pipes did with the 2.5” catback, but have to consider it is 40 degrees warmer and much higher humidity
@@SpeedCultureStudios I'd be at around 400bhp with a 91 tune and stock converters/2" dual exhaust, I'm wondering if upgrading the catback would be worth it, or just do test pipes
@@KenyonPayne turbos like exhaust flow but I’d say cats are much more of a restriction than the catback. Obviously you run into compliance issues with eliminating cats though
@@SpeedCultureStudios its actually supercharged! Same motor as the 11-17 s4s.
Opinions on the UPT 3in long tube intakes?
I’m not all that familiar with the brand but the Q does not respond all that well to intakes. If you really want intakes than 3” long tubes would be the way to go-except you have to modify the core support to run 3” which is not ideal
Good stuff.... I'll keep my factory boxes with the drop ins
Good plan!
@@SpeedCultureStudios showed up late to the party but I'm glad I follow ppl like yourself and Boost for the unfiltered facts/opinions
@@q50_foreigner just try to give real info and not just what people want to hear! Thanks man!
What's the name of your cat back exhaust and what did it run you
It is a custom catback system that has come to be known as the SCS Catback system, which you may have heard me reference in the video. All components can be had for around $350. Then you have to consider whatever a local exhaust shop will charge to piece it all together.
Hey. So I just got a 2018 3.0 AWD Luxe Q50 with like 20k miles. I’m gonna drive it for a year or two before I go all out and spend 100k on a dream car. So I wanted to know, let’s say I’m willing to spend 2000-2500$ on after market stuff on it. What do you recommend? Can you put together a shopping list for me? Back in the 90s when I had Supra’s and Rx7s and 240s I’d do like exhaust, chip, intake. Do people still kinda follow that model? I spent the last decade in nyc without a car. Feel free to go above 2500$. It’s a soft cap lol. Thank you in advance!!!
I’d be willing to make a donation to the channel if you’d advise me. Like 50$. If we can communicate through text or email and if I have a couple questions you can help.
Really depends on what you’re going for. If you’re looking for power you could do exhaust and a tune and be making great power with that platform and would be around $2500 total, but that would leave you with a lot of power and tires that couldn’t handle it.
Or if you’re satisfied with the power and just want to to handle a bit better, look at tires and suspension +sway bars. I have a couple of videos about best way to spend $1000 owns mods I’d pursue first etc. they are more tailored to the 3.7 Q50, but many of them cross over
I appreciate that, but you don’t need to donate! That’s very generous! You can always message me on Instagram or email me at speedandmayhem@gmail.com. I try to keep up with messages as best I can. I also have t shirts for sale through my RUclips store and have key chains and decals available if you’d like to support the channel.
@@SpeedCultureStudios Yeah one thing I read about these that I didn’t love was the body roll. I definitely want to address that with some sway bars or something. Good point. What about these “race chip” brand chips? I can add like 50hp for 450$. I want speed and I want it to drive solid. So perhaps that. Chip, intake, sway bars, tires. Maybe also suspension??? Thank you so much man. It’s been like 12 years since I tuned a car in any way.
@@christophersalko9851 I don't like the chip idea for these more modern cars honestly. JB4 is a good plug and play option for the 3.0t if you don't want to go with an actual tune. People have had great success with that and there are a ton of videos about it on youtube. These are big heavy cars so body roll is a problem if you take corners at spirited rates. Sway bars make a huge difference and have been one of my favorite upgrades. Decent tires are night and day compared to the factory tires as well, and suspension goes a long way of course.
would be nice if someone made maybe a oem plus intake box, havent seen no one do that yet for the vq37vhr... i would have kept my oem intake but the boxs were in bad shape from prev. owner.
Yeah and replacements are very expensive for what they are
What exhaust do you have ?
My custom setup. Check out my SCS custom catback videos for details
did you say what gas octane you were on? 91 or 93/4 ? numbers are good in my eyes. for what the car has been through id stay its pretty stable. stay safe duder!
93 octane
And yeah for the conditions, the numbers were decent
New around here, where is the SCS exhaust? Not finding a lot of info
He made a video on it, on what products to buy step by step instructions/installation
@@tashaunsoto6940 Nice, thanks
Check out the channel and you’ll know all about it!! Thanks for checking in!!
How do I get that big clock on my screen ?
Don’t know lol. No nav so it’s the default screen
What was the gain from the 2.25 test pipes ?
Video coming out probably next week!
@@SpeedCultureStudios so I get them ?
Should ?
@@ericpeterson3742 do you have test pipes already?
@@SpeedCultureStudios no was gonna order today !
@speedculturestudios do you know anyone that is running a dual in 2.5 to a single out 3” single exit borla muffler pared with flow master muffler I’m very close to doing this set up on my 3.7 q50
No I do not, but this is something I have been thinking about as well. Let me know if you do it!
what’s the best drop in filters?
aFe dry
I wouldn't go so far as the worry about mileage nowadays, my 2014 Q50 is at 189,000 made 340 at the rear wheels and never seen the back of a tow truck since I bought it back in 2014
What’s mods u have
Would UPT intakes make a difference much longer with better airflow and aren’t getting much heat soak as they come to the front lower grill of the car look into those and make a vid!
I mention them in this video. Length doesn't change flow, but it does help keep temps cool. The Q50 doesn't respond all that much to increased air volume as we showed in this test, so longer and wider intakes are only good for maybe a couple hp up top.
Why should you not drive with 3 inch intakes without a tune?
Because the car may not run right-many people have gotten check engine lights with intakes and no tune on this platform.
Great video, love it
Thanks, Josh!
@@SpeedCultureStudios what if you heat protect wrap the factory air box ?
Like dyna mat for engine bays on the air box and intake tubes
@@joshrichie9833 I don’t know that the factory boxes need heat protection but it wouldn’t hurt. The intake air temps stayed consistent pull after pull with the factory boxes so they are doing a good job keeping cool air coming in
good video
Thanks man!
would u ever though meth /water injection to get intake temps down?
No because the factory air boxes kept the temps pretty low. I suppose there is potential to keep them cooler than ambient temps but it’d just get me back to my best numbers of 334/276 which isn’t a huge difference
Great test. 👍🏽
Great video thanks for that …. So with the 2.25 test pipes did u get a check engine light and if it did did it go away with the tune
No CEL with different test pipes, but the car was already tuned
It’s crazy because g37s pick up so much from 3in intake
But do they? They pick up power because they go from a baseline number and then a tuned number with intakes. We don’t know how much power can actually be attributed to the intakes. Only one real side by side comparison has been done and the gains were minimal. I forget the channel name now but it’s out there!
ruclips.net/video/elikzXaMm1s/видео.html
Channel would boom with a 3.0t modding
It might but there are already so many people out there so it’s hard to say
@@SpeedCultureStudios with the 400z coming out it’s a no brainer. Get a 3.0t and just swap the parts wheels and etc over . Then chase the 1000hp build
@@jcproductions89 So tempting!
@@SpeedCultureStudios u have a relationship with soho be a good build . Or boost your car be cool to see with manual swap
@@jcproductions89 I would never dump the money into the q that it would take to boost and manual swap. But a new Z would be rad. I’m sure soho will jump in one themselves too. Hard to start modding a $40k brand new car too lol. I’m not on that level yet!
Wouldn’t the TB’s be the limiting factor in this situation?
No. Bigger throttle bodies have not shown gains.
The engine just does not need any more air.
thank u so much bro
Glad you liked it!
Sooo…just boost it, is what you trying to say 😂
Sure lol
I effing knew it. The stock air boxes are the best. Like I've said, I'm saving that $400 for an air intake for another mod.
Great thinking!
Yo I got an idea for you secret weapons 🤔 try them I’m sure we want to see the difference and you should’ve went with that idea other than these… we knew they weren’t good to being with.
I don't know what you mean lol
Weapon R*
@@phantoment.3280 the Weapon R intakes would not be better-they may actually be worse because the MAF tube is actually smaller so the only difference from the stock intakes is that they’d be sucking hot air with no benefit from increased volume.
Well look at that, and I thought it was gonna be abit better but worse just like those short ram, that’s sucks, they make it seem like there hot stuff lol but guess you gotta stick with the basics and a couple of different components.
Either get admin intakes or keep your stock ones on with some filters no in between
No admins for the Q50.
@@SpeedCultureStudios wow rip
@@tylerboss7792 they wouldn’t help in the Q50 anyway.
This is why admin won't tune a car with short ram
They definitely pull in heat, but don’t miss the fact that even the first pull with 3” intakes lost power compared to factory air boxes-before heat was an issue.
= stay stock oem
You got it.
I agree and disagree. Do the same video with a G37 admintuning intakes has a proven track record for gains, but they are expensive, and require a tune. I know that he don't got any intake for Q50 your right about short rams nothing new.
I agree and disagree lol. I’ve discussed this before-the G responds to intakes better than the Q. The Q just doesn’t need the additional air. Long tube intakes on the Q would yield minimal gains over stock even if there were any available. Soho agreed with this while we were discussing intakes.
Admin 3” intakes have never actually shown real gains because no one has ever tuned the car with stock air boxes or takedas, for example, then swapped in admins and retuned. I have only seen 1 side by side comparison between takedas and admins on a G and they gained 2 hp. They were disappointed by the cost, effort to install, for minimal gains. I can’t recall the channel now but it can be found.