Gravel Riding on Vermont's NEXT Great Rail Trail?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2019
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In this video I ride the Missisquoi Valley Rail Trail with SE Group to conduct a rail trail audit and try to figure out how to improve the rail trail.
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These folks have worked long and heard on this one project. When I left Vermont 3 years ago the trail was about to become a reality. Now, watching and subscribing to your channel, I see the dream is now real. Congratulations to all who made this happen...
Fantastic.
I hope more and more states invest in these types of trails/cycle paths.
Thanks for covering the area. Its beautiful
Unfortunately, it probably won't happen. Most states don't have the right mindset.
I'm one of those Canadian tourists. Love Vermont!
I am a Subscriber. I’m both a retired Navy Officer and retired USFWS Manager and LEO. I live in western Massachusetts…and am planning in doing the whole trail, end to end, turn around and ride back. I don’t mind bikepacking, but I’m thinking lodging to lodging, and use local restaurants, Mom and Pops, and delis….for food. At the end of my career, I spent time in VT doing natural resource/wildlife law enforcement. Missisquoi National Wildlife Refuge is close to the Swanton terminus. Im still in the planning stage Russ…but I enjoyed your video. I hope that along the way, they interpret wildlife and the natural lands and waters being protected. Also a member of the Eastern Greenway and the Rails-to-Trails Conservancy…great organizations!
So cool! We love the rail trail, a perfect mix of views and woodsy and open areas.
the trail needs a Ben & Jerry's stand. Beautiful country. My niece will be going to the University of Vermont next year...
Russ, thanks for coming to New England! You're always welcome here. I am a resident of Connecticut, but love to visit Vermont. The Missisquoi Valley Rail Trail and the 93-mile Lamoille Valley Rail Trail, when complete, will be a big draw for cyclists. I would like to see more on trail or near trail camping options. Please bring us more scenic rail trail videos in the future.
I rode this trail as a part of my tour (NYC to Northeast Kingdom in VT) last summer. Very nice to see the behind the scenes of these rails-trails. I hope these videos become a regular part of the channel!
Love this video, one of the best on this channel. I wish Vermont the best.
Just seeing this now. I rode the Cross NH Adventure Trail last summer and plan to continue on to the cross VT trail this summer. Nice to see some of it ahead of time.
Just saw this for the first time. I'm putting it on my list for summer.
Great video. I will have to check out that trail as it’s just across the lake (in NY). As an FYI in case you’re in the northeast again, there is a Cross New Hampshire Trail and a Cross Vermont Trail (mixed terrain). Might be worth checking out online/in person. The two connect on the border of VT/NH and the bookends are Burlington, VT and Bethel, Maine. Planning to do them both as one trip next summer.
Very timely post. I was just up in Quebec and rode some of the Route Vert trail, crossed back into the US near Jay Peak and saw lots of signs for the this trail. I’d like to go back and check it out.
Nice video
I live in Connecticut 260 miles from Saint Albans this is now on my to do list thanks
Hi. A big thanks to you and this video!! Last weekend a friend and I road this trail to Richford and we stayed at the Grey Gables Mansion. Day 2 we continued into Canada then west toLake Champlain to Isle La Motte. Day 3 was back to St Albans. A great trip!! Thanks.
I hope they finish this soon! We need more paths like these everywhere - just so awesome
This trail is a gem for that region. A few years back I was on vacation and training for my Ironman which required a 16 mile long run which I did on this trail. To this day it is still my favorite long run. The beauty was incredible. Perhaps a few trail running races on the trail for additional revenue and exposure to the public.
I LOVE this trail. Done a lot of rail trails and this may be my favorite. Been riding it for about 15 years, and i try to do it at least twice a year. Thanks for doing this video.
Beautiful part of our wonderful country.Awesome video .
Looks like a great day/weekend trip! Thanks for sharing, hopefully I’ll be able to visit this summer. 🍺
Check out the Katy Trail in Missouri they have special events and are increasing the trail to cover the entire state.
Nice review/look-in on the trail. I was planning on heading there this August to check it out, and now I know to go and see the towns along the way too.
This was great! They were smart to bring you on board and their approach to the overall study and consultation is on the right track. Hope they have the resources to realize their ideas. I’m three hours from St Albans (in Canada). I’ll have to go down sometime and ride this!
What a Beautiful Privilege to be on this project, and having the opportunity to witness this activity. Great stuff!!
Russ thanks again for another great adventure. Been to Vermont several time on our motorcycle and all of New England such a beautiful area. The rail trail is amazing. We were looking for a trip this summer looks like a great choice for us. A brochure at the terminus at the trail head with mile post and features at each town. Maybe scenic spots to stop at for short breaks and some benches to relax the bum. Just a thought. Thanks again.
Thanks for the informative video. We’re from NY and have plans for a VT canoe trip in a few weeks. I think we will now take our bikes, leave our boats behind and check out this bike trail.
Thanks for doing this video. Gave new insight into what goes into trail planning. I live in upstate New York and now that I know about this area more I plan to day trip or weekend there for some riding.
Never heard the event was going on. Glad you got to see our trail. Take care, Al
Very interesting. Lovely trail. Thanks for a behind the scenes look. ✌️
Loved this! Hope you have the opp to do more. So much thought, planning and work goes into rail-trail development and marketing.
It is super interesting to see how the behind the scenes works. Now that I have seen the 'before' video, I will be looking forward to the 'after' one.
That was a great look at this trail. Thanks! I took the Katy Trail across Missouri last year and I was pretty impressed by the signage and amenities along the trail. Every town has a little sign listing the amenities available there. And many towns have a rest station on the trail - made to look like the train station that used to be there. There's a bathroom, drinking water, pump/fix-it station, full trail map, nearby area map. Plus, historical info about what happened in the area - mostly Louis & Clark passing through during their expedition. If Vermont is looking for a template, what they did on the Katy Trail is a very good example. (Too bad much of it is underwater due to unprecedented amounts of rainfall this year.)
Bucket list for sure
excellent video and beautiful countryside
Have Lionel model caboose, now I know how they look inside thank you !!!
looks so amazing!
Fairly new to your channel and just discovering all your vid, so far love the content ! I'm from Quebec just up north and about to pick my first gravel bike...as an avid road biker, I do the Jay Peak loop that start up in Richford a couple time a year. I love the feeling I get everytime I cross the border and pass through those small towns in VT. Will surely try to give a ride on the Missisquoi trail this summer to test my new bike as it's not so far from home !
Just ordered some decals.. can’t wait to see them & Display them..
It would be great to see more about your advocacy style work.
Looks so sweet!! Your lifelong quest to not only learn the correct way to say Pannier but also to locate no less than 300 different ways other cultures would say it is AWESOME!! Every video I wait for the pannier "cameo".
Such great work!!!
This was just added to my bucket list.
Really cool project and documentation of project. It's always really interesting for me to see how these types of projects are implemented in different regions of the U.S. I can imagine even with strong biking cultures whether in VT or say OR, the process and politics would be different. I really liked how the group rode from meeting to meeting, having the tour serve as a microcosm of the project/experience as a whole.
Keep 'em coming Russ. I'm finding that seeing a new video pop up on your channel is the highlight of my RUclips viewing. I really look forward to your content, especially the outdoor riding videos. I do really enjoy the "talking videos" as well. "Talking videos," kinda like how Henry Rollins would call his solo gigs, "Talking shows." Keep up the good work!
Very nice trail, will be great to have connections with other routes to open up cycle tourism opportunities.
Looks like a great trail
Word. I have a house in Richford. Imma ride my bike on said rail trail. Good times.
Yay #bikefishing! Looking forward to more of those vids in the future!
Serious ! That trial is amazing it’s like Tarmac !!
So beautiful!
That was one not so supple headset wrench. :)
Great video!
Awesome video.. Trail definitely needs more signage.. a Ben & Jerry’s won’t hurt.. and more promotions.. when I visit in Massachusetts.. another option for trails & visiting towns.. meeting locals.. thank you 😎🚴♂️
I live on the West Orange Trail in Orange County Florida. It transformed this part of our county and is a huge economic driver in this area. Some of the keys are bike rentals, great online and printed maps and the hospitality of the communities along the trail.
Hey Russ, since you're somewhat in the area, you should travel to Gorham New Hampshire and check out the beautiful Presidential Rail Trail. It's a little over a hundred miles south of you you. Probably one of the most scenic Fall rides ever!
Cool shades Russ
As someone who grew up on this trail and in Northern VT I cringed at all the mispronounced towns lol.
But in all seriousness, the MVRT is a gem in Northern VT. Although I'm sure business would love more signage and way finding on the trail, that is part of VTs charm and allure. This concept of finding your own way, keeping things simple, a slower way of life. Personally I'd love to see more infrastructure built around the trail, and even connections to the Lamoille Valley Rail Trail to make a interconnect rail trail system that could criss cross VT opening even more miles of great riding. Loved the video!
Rail trail towns will become retirement destinations as our population ages. Active retirees will flock to crime-free small towns where we can safely ride off into our sunset years. Rail trails are saving many small towns from economic decay, and the best is yet to come as retirees make a huge impact. Already happening in MO with the KATY Trail and the proposed Rock Island Trail will up the ante.
Can we hire you for the Great Redwood Trail? {sigh} Okay, not for another 10 - 20 years, but still...
Great vid, thanks for posting!
Great video. Thanks so much for coming to Vermont and highlighting this.
This was terrific. I stayed at the Gray Gables a couple of years ago when I rode from Ottawa to Nova Scotia.
Vermont is an awesome place to ride(on the road is my experience). Roads are good, terrain has a little bit of everything, beautiful scenery and good drivers.
Double dipping in the comment section here. It's only cause I really appreciate the video and the model/implementation of the project. I've actually found this video quite inspiring and useful for a somewhat similar project here in Colombia. I'd be very curious and eager to learn more about the types of questions and prompts that were used in the community engagement meetings. Any further more specific information to be found regarding this project? Thanks again!
30 miles is a nice length, but if it doesn't link up to anything, it's difficult to see how you could build it into a long distance tour. For example there quite a few trails in the South of England that will get you from London to the coast or along the River Thames for 50+miles and which link into other trails with a mix of off-road or quiter roads that can be linked up to make some nice 100 mile loop rides or which terminate at rail stations so you can get home easily.
It links to the Lamoille valley trail and is spitting distance of the Route Verte in Canada.
Nice. Too bad in my area, Wyoming, so many of the early railroad ROW’ s were abandoned.
@Stephen Morton One of 50, 48% of it is public land, so it belongs to you too.
Come to New Hampshire next!
Beautiful! What a cool opportunity for you to get involved and help promote it. So, are you going to produce a Route Guide?
Your doing a super job on bike trails and venturing out even further. Thanks
A couple of the trails in this area have had decent success with music festivals along trails of about that length. Camping available at either end, with local/regional music acts along the way. You would need space and services to handle the the group on either end, but it's a good way to showcase the trail and let the local towns and organizations sell food, raise money, and see how the trail can benefit them.
See www.pedalersjamboree.com/ on the Katy Trail
Yes. Mentioned that event to a few people not the trail as a means to highlight it!
Russ: "Are you familiar with the hashtag Bikefishing?"
Landscape architect: "No I'm not"
Russ: "There's a sub-niche of people who bring fly rods on bike"
Landscape architect: "Oh, awesome!"
Russ: "I have no idea who started it"
Cracks me up every time!
i know it is pretty randomly asking but do anybody know of a good place to watch newly released movies online?
@Danny Koda flixportal xD
@Gus Colt thanks, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) Appreciate it !
@Danny Koda No problem :)
If it isn't already on there, put it on gravelmap.com!
Just saw this video a year after its release, but wanted to suggest an idea for an app that would relay info in real-time based on your interests and abilitiy to provide quick feedback at important sites and junctures. Regularly posted signs could have qr codes posted to take you to the app and/or a website for the rail trails in Vermont. Also, if you give permission to use your location data, etc, when you're done for the day, based on your the places you visited and your patronage, the app could provide you with estimates on how much you helped local communities and helped reduce ecological impact by using the trail.
IMHO the problem with bringing traffic for businesses beyond snacks, cafes is the trails are too short to be on a bucket list to entice traveling to. You can get good local traffic but being out & backs doesn’t generate enough business. To be successful I think loop road rides from base towns on the trail are needed. We have the Miami-Erie rail trail here that runs almost the length of Ohio and is beautiful in sections but has unfinished sections and no promoting that I see of loop rides. If you ever want to come investigate we would gladly put you up for the visit. Maybe you could pass along ideas for growth and completion. Thanks for the videos you do a lot of fun and interesting work.
Loop rides from the trail is one of the recommendations we are giving.
This seems like a great direction for your channel. I had a thought about the while you folks were discussing signage and other local info in and around the trail. Since and signage (useful and/or commercial) can take away from "just nature" function of riding, and since the internet and cell phones are ubiquitous. Keep the signage simple and set and app. Are you sold out of patches?
Currently there is hardly any signage so it is actually quite hard to follow and there are many instances when there are forks into private driveways and it is not obvious. Cell reception in this area is very spotty so relying on your cell phone solely is not a good idea. The idea isn't to make it look like Las Vegas with flashing billboards, but to make it so if a family wanted to go and ride it, they would be able to follow the trail and find services without getting lost. Also some interpretive signs so you knew what you were actually riding through.
I just caught this video. Thanks for posting it. I live in New England and would love to ride it this summer. I have a few questions. 1. How much of it is actually paved? 2.Does one need a gravel type bike to ride it? 3. Is it safe to assume that it has just modest elevation inclinations as it is a rail trail? 4.Are there hotel and restaurant accommodations along the way? 5. I ride a recumbent trike( high end) with 11/2 Schwalbe Marathon plus tires….will they be adequate for this trail? Thanks if you can take the time to respond. Also…this video is now 3 years old…has much work been done since this was posted?
I assume the people you were dealing with have some association with LocalMotion as well
Was just there a week ago :'(
This is a very nice track for cycling. Question, is this new bike path embedded in a parent cycle network? In Germany we have the same challenge, cyclists want to ride as long as possible, cycle continuously and plan their tour in advance.
This is so close to home.
Is it ebike friendly?
Hey Russ- what’s the bike travel bag you use?
Post Co transfer case.
Any camping spots?
Was there any push back or hesitancy in the community meetings?
In this instance everyone was pretty supportive.
Great trail and video: One small pronunciation note: you pronounce the trail "Miss-sis-coy" not Miss-sis-kwa!
Hi Russ, nice video. I'm from Europe (Belgium) and planning to come to US to travel by bike. But to be honest, I heard so many bad things about the behavior of car drivers against bicycles in your country...So I try to make my own and objective idea. I know that US is a very big and diverse country, and that the situation could be very different from one area to another but could you comment on this? Colorado and New England are often mentionned as bike-friendly, what about the West Coast and especially Oregon and Washington state? Important to mention: I am more a road cyclist than gravel.... Thanks for your feedback and congratulations for your videos !
It really depends on where you go. There are jerks everywhere. Generally speaking the less traffic there is the less conflict. I think Oregon is pretty good, Washington, Colorado and parts of California. Haven't spent too much time in NE but there are pockets. A good place to look is on the RidewithGPS ambassador routes to give you a sense of who is riding where.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Thanks a lot
Rent a mountain bike and go ride Kingdom Trails while you are there. Its great for beginners.
added this to my to-ride list. One thing you didn't really make clear in this video: what was your role? facilitator? adviser? along for the ride? internet famous rally point?
My role was to take b-roll for another video, document the process and provide some assistance in their upcoming bike friendly business program.
Maybe I'm just asking for trouble, but having just moved back to the USA I've been spending a lot of time riding rail trails like this. I cannot understand why on these safe, relatively slow rides everyone is always wearing helmets. Is there really the perception that there's a great danger of head injury? From my perspective it looks as odd as if a group of runners or hikers were wearing helmets.
It’s just the cultural norm for some. You can choose to wear them or not.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Thanks, that makes sense. Was it a requirement or suggestion communicated when organizing a ride like this, or is it simply that everyone shows dressed up similarly?
The reason I ask is that I'd like to be more involved in the cycling community but I find it a bit intimidating that I may be stirring a pot by showing up without a helmet.
Man, I’m white but I would feel like a minority around these white people lol.