Brock Purdy and Jimmy Garoppolo are the same guy.
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- Brock Purdy and Jimmy Garoppolo play quarterback at the same exact level. This might be surprising to hear with all the hype surrounding Purdy, but if you look at their stats and how Kyle Shanahan structured the offense, there is no difference between the two QBs. In what ways are they so similar? This week’s episode uses the all-22 coaches film to analyze Brock Purdy and Jimmy Garoppolo’s play on the San Francisco 49ers.
⚡️ WANT TO SUPPORT THE CHANNEL? GO TO / alexrollinsnfl ⚡️
If you want to help fund the creation of future episodes, and receive exclusive content including NFL playbook breakdowns, access to NFL playbooks and my library of college all 22 game film, supporter Q&A sessions and more, click the link above.
🔶 TWITTER: / alexrollinsnfl
🔶 INSTAGRAM: / alexrollinsnfl
🔶 FACEBOOK: / alexrollinsnfl
🔶 TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@alexrollinsnf...
Music:
🔷 Intro: Cyril Nikitin "Epic Movie Trailer Main"
🔷 Yondo Beats “Morning Sun”
🔷 Outro: OneTone Beats "Deception"
Thanks for watching “Brock Purdy and Jimmy Garoppolo are the same guy.”
#brockpurdy #nfl #jimmygaroppolo 
Спорт
The fact that a rookie, who was the last person chosen in the NFL draft, had stats that were "almost identical " to a nine year seasoned veteran, has to say something more than what was put forth in this video.
It’s called having Kyle Shanahan as a head coach
Kyle calling plays…
Throwing passes to wide open guys. For YEARS we’ve seen film with Jimmy completely ignoring wide open guys 10-20 yards down field. Brock finally threw to them.
Why are you busting their agenda 🤷🏻♂️
@@jmoricca1 fax
@@GodSpeeds24 and what happened when Brian Hoyer, Nick Mullens, CJ Beathard or even Josh Johnson played QB for Kyle Shanahan?
Even Kyle Shanahan admits he needs a good QB to win games, why cant we?
Kyle scheme things open. Is a genius play designer. But he needs someone good enough to execute his offense. It is as easy as watching the tape to realize that
So Brock Purdy, in his rookie year essentially had similar stats to Jimmy G, who was a 9th year QB who had started in a Super Bowl. This to me is a strong indicator that Purdy has a lot of yet untapped upside potential, given what he was able to do in his rookie year. Brock Purdy is still a young work-in-progress that realistically can improve greatly with experience, while Jimmy G clearly has a large enough body of work for us to know Jimmy G's true ceiling. I'd happily take Brock Purdy over Jimmy G at this point in their respective careers.
Anybody was better than Jimmy smh
Agreed.
@@roemellobell Nick MULLENS and cj beathard want a word with you
Brock’s skill set is limited and has the weakest arm out of all starting QBs.
@@josephsoto8502 put Brock in that to because they are mid quarterbacks
Purdy doesn't give me the same anxiety to watch that Jimmy does. Jimmy always got in his head in critical moments and started dancing in the pocket instead of setting his feet and tossing it to Deebo 5 yards away.
That's because Purdy can avoid the rush, hes very evasive. Jimmy is a statue that has to force throws to avoid sacks. Jimmy is also unwilling to look downfield so his options are limited. Purdy will air it out 45 yards if need be. This guy is a clown for thinking their skill set is the same. Jimmy might be the 20th best QB in the NFL. Purdy is easily top 12.
Purdy does the same shit his way of doing it is moving to the left and just tossing it up. He’s been doing this since college
@@Based_investor purdy ain’t top 12, ur the type of person to say dak is bottom 20
@ImJustFusion QBs better than Purdy: Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Hurts, Herbert, Lawrence, Rodgers, Jackson, Prescott, Cousins. Purdy is better than QBs like Tua, Murray, Carr, Goff, Geno, Jones, etc.
Not enough games yet for the turn overs to start up lol he was known for them in college. They will show up . Nobody is perfect
This video aged well😂😂😂😂😂
I appreciate you and your work Alex. A simple comment cannot contain the things I disagree with this video on, and would instead say that the way Kurt Warner & JT O'Sullivan broke down Jimmy vs how they break down Brock - and the words they use when doing so - say everything that needs to be said.
When watching Jimmy, we hear lot of, "I'm not in the QB room, so I don't know exactly what they are teaching, but (X, Y, and Z) doesn't make sense to me."
When they talk about Brock, not only is that never said, but the exact opposite. They comment on the fluidity of his movements and processing and how it all fits together. When Brock makes mistakes, there isn't that bewilderment in tone and word choice which they use with Jimmy, but rather they say they understand why the mistake was made and in processing and how they wpuld like to see it done better from the perspectives of veteran QBs.
Not a sexy one sentence hot take, but 🤷♂️. Much love.
Preach
You Purdy lovers 😂😂
@@MrKwatts27 - I know that you prefer guys who warm benches. How's your boy Kaepernick doin'?
@@paulgaither Doing better than Purdy🤷🏾♂️
@@MrKwatts27 - Dude here likes his own comments and tries to throw bait.
They are not the same. Brock offers more out of structure and confidence to try any throw. Can't say they are the same just bc they are both game managers from a great system and team. Also crazy to compare a year 1 guy who hasn't peaked to a vet QB who's capped out as a bridge QB. The small sample size from Purdy is better than any play I have seen from Jimmy.
It’s so funny how you Brock fans come to his defense after evidence has been shown😂😂😂
You ASSUME he hasn't peaked when in REALITY most QBs with talent start out looking great until the league figures out that QBs tendencies. Mark Sanchez and Jared Goff, and Kyler Murray are the first guys that comes to mind. Let's see how it goes but fo smart QBs inexperience becomes a huge asset until a guy like Belecheck figures out the playbook on them and then they wash out of the league if they have some huge unbeknownst weaknesses.
@@MrKwatts27 they (Purdy Fans) also overlook his sh** footwork...and relies on what little arm strength he has to make some of his throws!
He does objectively have some things Jimmy doesn't. He is insanely quick, like his 10 yard split is the same as Christian McCaffrey, super high percentile of QBs, only a few active QBs have better 10 yard splits than BCB. That gives him high key incredible mobility to make plays outside the pocket, juke defenders, etc...While his arm isn't special or anything, he at least appears to the eye to have a bigger arm than Jimmy and or more willing to go deep. Maybe it's not Herbert 60 yards down the field, but it's good enough for 25-30 yard passes down the field, which Jimmy rarely attempted. That said, I of course want Trey Lance to get a shot and see what the 49ers have or don't have with him, and I don't want the 49ers to get rid of Lance when they could have something special.
False af youre not being honest lol
Now purdy is playing better than every qb in the nfl 😂
Brock went 7-0 as a rookie. That's difficult to do. He really played well.
The Brock disrespect is insane
Jimmy did the same thing the plays are the same you need to do your homework look it up your self this is not hate it's called look it up your self silly humans
He had the second best roster in the league
@@laverdad159 I can't agree with you more they forget that
I'm not knocking what he did, but laid out in context, it reads game manager...cmc addition, early on kittle had to block more, later In season kittle could be kittle. If you wanna say insane hate on a qb, that's what alot of fans do to lance 🤷(what reasons), Without paying attention to context.
Even if Purdy is the same guy him being on a rookie deal means the team has the money to be much better than with Jimmy
The excuses are cute 😂😂
@NinerByNature88 damn bro, usually we agree, but I like his take on this. If Brock's worst case scenario is being a Jimmy clone on a cheaper contract, I'll take it. His 1st year was as good as (arguably) Jimmy's best year, so he could end up getting better. You know how I feel about Trey, but this video is strictly about Brock vs Jimmy
@@WarrenF19 ya I love Trey and want him to start but also don’t feel the need to tear down Brock in the process. Agreed…Brock is cheaper and offers the production of Jimmy’s BEST season statistically speaking. Plus a lot of untapped potential. I hope both guys ball out but I want Trey to at least get a real shot.
@@anthonyo455 absolutely 💯
Purdy’s contract allows the 49ers to pay Bosa.
The being is that Jimmys a veteran and Purdy is putting up veteran numbers but as a rookie, chosen last in the nfl draft. While still only playing 6 regular season games
He needs to develop a lot more. The dude was a rookie. Hopefully he can keep working on his shortcomings.
Hey guys, I’m going to take next week off to improve my editing skills and make these videos visually better. I need to up my Adobe Premiere game, and because I’m so passionate about making this content for all of you, I want to make sure it’s up to a higher standard, cause I feel like I owe that to all of you for rocking with me for so lon!. If there’s anything else you think can be improved, drop a comment below. Thanks for watching, and I can’t wait to show you the next video that comes up! 👊
Don’t worry abt it. Hope all goes well👊
I would to see How Todd Monken Passing Scheme Will Jackson compared to Roman
can you do a video on Daniel Jones or Dexter Lawrence
In JG's 5 games with CMC, he got the ball in the opponent's territory 6 times. In Purdy's 8 games (MIA thru DAL), he got the ball in opponent territory 19 times. That's the main reason for the increased scoring.
What does that even mean? Against cards alone they had 40 something points which is more than 6 trips to the red zone
@@eliasgonzalez5357 lol wow
@@eliasgonzalez5357 Starting field position. Where the drive STARTED.
As a fan of the 9ers.. i dont think the hate for jimmy was because of his play style but for me it was that I knew hes gonna throw the game away in the big moment kinda like how Romo did back in the day.. it almost never failed..
Alex, I watch all ur vids, and as a Niners fan I love when u do Niner content. I pretty much always agree with you, and even tho you did make some pretty good points, I still feel it's a little unfair that u compared a Vet like Jimmy G to a 3rd strong rookie that was the last pick in the draft.
To me, if he is on par with Jimmy with stats, that's amazing cuz the kid has plenty of time to learn the system even more and grow.
Also, 1 very important trait that Purdy has that you left out is his poise. Jimmy always seemed jittery, yet Brock always seems to have his shit together and that key when ur leading a team.
Alex, do you think the Niners are better off starting Trey Lance, or Borck Purdy? Ur next vid?😂
Agreed. What most people tend to forget are the contracts involved. Brock is paid peanuts, and he’s putting up numbers on par with the highest paid athletes in the game.
Trey Lance of course. Give Trey this same offense with a sprinkle of QB power at the goal line and watch him blossom. You minus well because we ain’t winning sh*t with Brock and that elbow 🤷🏾♂️
@@MrKwatts27 y'all were one game away from the super bowl so what do you mean by 49ers aren't winning shit with Brock purdy it's very likely y'all at least keep the NFC championship a very close and competitive game with purdy not injured
@@geleneceline2310 We went to the SB with Jimmy and we were one game away from a SB appearance multiple of times but Jimmy skill set couldn’t take us over the top.
Thanks PK! I think there are a lot of factors at play with this offense, and QB is one of the least important. Shanahan has arguably the best scheme in the league, and the most talented weapons bar none. Many, many QBs can fit into this mold, and when looking at it from a statistical standpoint, Purdy and GQ performed nearly identically
I thought this video would be about the Raiders moving from Derek Carr to Garoppollo, that would make a lot more sense than this lol
Brock Purdy just feels like 2017 Jimmy again but with a much better team
Brock looks like everything we wanted Jimmy to develop into.
@@paulgaither looks can be deceiving
I have been saying that same thing nobody understands that smh
@@roemellobell watch Kurt warners break down. He attacks down field way more than jimmy ever did
@@chrislee6302 no he's not it's a video on RUclips right now you go do your homework
This aged like milk in the sun
Brock is better than Jimmy in the red zone, I used to wanna rip my hair out when Jimmy would drive the team down the field then they'd settle for a field goal. That was a big difference that Brock brought to the team.
One quick thing there: CMC
@@davidrobinson3154 Jimmy had CMC vs the chiefs yet he threw a 5 yard Hail mary interception
@@masonwright429 for how long? Maybe I'm remembering wrong but I don't recall any significant overlap between the 2. Purdy took over after CMC got integrated to the offense and the team started getting hot
@@davidrobinson3154 Jimmy had him for 2 days before the game. It’s just that was the worst red zone throw I’ve ever seen. But Jimmy had CMC for 5 games.
@@masonwright429 I thought it was 2 or maybe 3 at most. I don't follow them super close though so I'll concede
Jimmy was a veteran qb, Brock just came out of college big difference
This. And cap hit.
Cap hit is the only thing that matters when your team needs to win now. So is better to go to purdy but if he isn’t significantly better than Jimmy then what’s the point.
Yet Brock looks like a polished veteran and has throws Jimmy never will. Brock was offered a spot in Alabama where he would toil for 2 years and maybe get to start at the end. Instead he went to Utah and played 4 years as a starter. That's why he came out and looked so poised.
@@stevemadak6255 Utah? Think you meant Iowa St.
Do you remember how good Jimmy was as a rookie? He was really good.
Think an underrated component of the Purdy situation (and the whole 49ers quarterbacks room) is that they're cheap. You don't have a guy sucking up 20% of the cap, which allows them to build out the roster elsewhere and put great talent around them.
That's the big difference. If they cost the same the Niners may have preferred Jimmy G but because they are similar you go with the cheaper guy. Honestly they'd prefer for Trey Lance to become a good decision maker due to his athleticism but that ship seems to have sailed.
They need Purdy’s cheap contract for Bosa’s upcoming megadeal.
@@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Given the niners history with QB injuries, Trey Lance will more than likely get his chance again.
@@quemaspana Yeah true...I've heard Purdy doesn't look the same after that shoulder injury...itd be a shame if Lance doesn't work out considering how much the Niners overpaid for the guy...looks like Shanahan and the GM should have coordinated better because Mac Jones might have been the better pick like Shanahan originally thought and they could have gotten him on the cheap. As well as Jimmy G did Shanahan probably only needs a really sound guy that can make all the throws...instead of shooting and gambling for some high upside. If Jimmy had a slightly better arm the Niners have a ring already so yeah Mac could have been perfect because of Shanahan's play calling ..Let's hope Lance turns out okay at least...the Niners have too good a team to not have a good player behind center and we just found out from the Eagles that a middling QB like Hurts can get MVP votes with the right team around him
These are NOT both the same guys. One is a check down merchant that we pray follows the script and does his job. The other is an intuitive, poised, high IQ make a play out of nothing baller that understands his coach’s offense and can be a leader in moments that call upon him. Brock Purdy is the MVP because he is constantly evolving his game and adapting his understanding of his play calling ability. He is an absolute unit and is demolishing the best teams in the NFL with ease. Bad take again alex. You don’t always have them but you’re wrong on this one.
Dude, they are not the same guy. When you are in the same offense and asked to do the same things, you will be similar. They have similarities beyong that, but they have differences, too. Purdy is more accurate, sees the field better, is more mobile, escapes the rush better, doesn't put the ball in danger anywhere near as much, looks down the field more, and make plays down the field much more often.
The issue is Jimmys career as a whole. Almost everyone said Jimmy was having a great season in relief of Trey THIS YEAR but Jimmy’s been here for half a decade, we knew it couldn’t last. We’ve seen the lows of Jimmy (a 30 year old veteran), and the fact that Jimmy’s arguable “best” is Mr Irrelevant rookie QBs current, with room to improve, I think there’s much more reason to be excited. Plus Purdy adds the kind of elusiveness I was hoping from Trey (not a better athlete, but more decisive). I’m still team Trey but if Brock is the guy I’m more than excited
Well said
Purdy isn't the same guy as Jimmy. 31st vs 18th in deep passing is a huge difference.
As far as the the DEFENCE's production COINCIDING with Brock's take over if the team: NOT A COINCIDENCE! Having longer drives not only leads to more scoring, but also keeps Bosa and the pack resting. I firmly and confidently attribute our Superbowl loss to jimmy not being able to get a freaking FIRST DOWN the entire fourth quarter. The D got gassed!
Lol yeah this guy thinks the defense played harder because QB3 was playing? Cmon man!
Best rookie QB last year by a wide margin he deserves to start. I did common opponents(Dolphins, raiders and buccaneers) test for him and Pickett. Purdy had over 2 YPA higher, 3 more TDs and 1 less Int plus a couple more passing yards. Anticipation, Processing and ball placement is elite already. He keeps working on his footwork and strength/conditioning he’ll be Drew Brees on the chargers who rarely threw downfield and loved targeting Antonio gates/LT wink Kittle TE1 and CMC RB1 in 2023 FF. Trey Lance needs to be traded great breakdown as always.
He did great for a 6th round rookie, I personally think he deserved OROY, his processing was great, but ball placement wasn’t good, quite a few of his downfield throws were behind receivers. The point of the video is not that it wasn’t impressive that he is a starter, it rather questions if his skillset is enough for the 49ers to go all the way.
He is an absolutely capable starter, but wasn’t jimmy also?
@@JGABRIELFREIRE I think so if he gets a fast snap to release(CMC and deebo FF juggernauts), footwork stays consistent and better placement on deep shots like you say. Just need to see it in 17 games he was underrated by scouts due to size, arm and peaking 2nd year in college. If not Trey Lance still there with only 4 games played in the nfl.
@@rawswisher43 man I honestly want to see him succeed, what an awesome story, it seems his teammates/coaches really believe in him too.
I’m a chiefs fan Btw, you guys have a hell of team.
@@rawswisher43 Why not let Purdy play with only Deebo, No Kittle or CMC and run him up the middle. I think he can get better by doing that and we can win a SB this year😂
@@JGABRIELFREIRE 7th round rookie... last player picked in the draft.
I think the key differences between the two based on the eye test are:
1) Poise. Jimmy is generally thought of as a game manager due to his limited upside and yet makes a ton of turnover-worthy plays due to panicking. Brock certainly had his own lucky breaks but you would expect more of a difference between a 7th round rookie and a vet.
2) Mobility. The ability to just extend plays behind the line of scrimmage is so valuable in today's NFL. While Brock isn't gonna scare defenses running downfield, the few times when his o-line lets him down don't automatically lead to a sack or turnover like they do with Jimmy.
QB mobility is a huge factor IMO in Shanahan's offense. Sometimes the pocket will be messy but the Niners talents around the perimeter are so good that you gotta give em a lil more time to get the space when the defense coverage is onto them. Trey Lance held that promise but that is only on paper if he can't keep building reps on the field due to injuries.
One thing that's hard to diagnose on tape but is absolute a huge plus for Purdy over Jimmy is his ability to adjust placement mid-throw.
I used to run a drill with my kids where our target would flash hands after the QB had begun his throwing motion. Being able to make that tiny adjustment after you've committed to a target is a huge asset.
In less games with zero 1st team NFL reps in his life. Purdy is already ahead of Jimmy after one season, he’s a step up on Lance too
No he aint. Purdy ass.. Lance can do wjat purdy can plus more. Noodle arms dont win sb
This video didn't age well. I think you owe him an apology
As a Niner fan who watches your videos without a ton of knowledge of football intricacies, I can tell you it felt way different with BP. Whether the numbers tell that story or not, as a fan it was a wonderful ride to take last year.
I hope it carries over Austin, I'm just worried it won't
@@AlexRollinsNFL I feel ya man. Hopefully the ascent continues and we get number 6 in the near future
I mean, he did mention the TD throw rate - which is nothing like Jimmy. To me, that was part of what 'felt way different' and how Alex burried the lede here. "Oh he just like Jimmy, except he throws way more TDs!" Umm ok, cool.
@@robertfleming9310 TD% can rise and fall drastically. It's not a "sticky" stat, where it doesn't maintain over a year by year basis. Purdy having a higher td% than Mahomes doesn't mean he is better at throwing TDs, it means that he's likely going to fall back to at the very least league average
@@AlexRollinsNFL I know. I never said he was better at throwing TDs than Mahomes. I said that a big difference between Jimmy and Purdy was the TD throw rate. Though regression is likely, in a similar offense, Tua had a a very high rate. My overall point: your statistical analysis downplays this metric. Has Jimmy ever posted anything close to top of the league in any season? in any 5 game sample? No, but the guys who have (aside from the two mentioned): Rodgers, Stafford, Burrow, Wilson, Jackson, Tannehill, Cousins, Brady, Allen, Brees, Rivers, Ryan, etc. They all have one thing in common - they are not Jimmy Garappolo.
Fantastic upload as always Dad! Appreciate you!
Thanks Son
I'm very biased, but I'm really high on Purdy. I was a Jimmy fan the whole way, just wish he could stay healthy. But what I like about Brock, is I don't get nervous when I see him throwing deep like I did with Jimmy. Now I know its not just the QB but I just feel more comfortable with him. And I can only imagine what he'll be with more experience.
Stats tell one story but the eyes tell another. Brock looks promising and we don't know his ceiling while Jimmy we knew what we were getting. Jimmy was amazing but the niners could no longer afford him.
“The offense from structural standpoint stayed very much the same”. Of course Kyle won’t and can’t change everything in the middle of the season playing with a rookie QB3. I think it was the best decision to go with the same plays as with Jimmy G both for the team and for Purdy.
Jimmy also had a great season. So yeah, he's the same as Jimmy's best in his first year lol.
Great breakdown. Would love to address several points.
1. The defense argument - the defense absolutely reached a new level once Purdy stepped in, and their added production reflected in the score. But it's also true that with the offense rolling even more, the defense was given more opportunity to beat up on opposing teams once they fell behind. I think it plays both ways here, not just "the defense gave the ball to Purdy more often."
2. The INTS - Jimmy and Purdy both finished with the same TD-INT ratio. But I don't think that's fair at all. One of Purdy's INTs was a deep shot while mopping up a blowout to the Chiefs at the end of the game. Another was a 50/50 ball on a fourth down in plus territory that ended up being an arm punt. One bounced off his receiver's chest, and the last was flat-out a bad throw. He was way, way more secure with the ball in the air than Garoppolo, which is a huge reason the offense felt better. Of course, in football, you're going to get INT-worthy throws that fall safely and great throws that get picked, but I think he has a little more here than he's gotten credit for.
3. Statistical regression is (probably!) incoming, as you said - it's hard for a quarterback on a half-season hot streak to keep that up full-time into next year (see, Jimmy G [2017] and Geno Smith [2022]). But Purdy's also a first-year rookie. That bodes much better for his long-term ceiling than Jimmy G entering his, what, ninth year in the league?
Thanks for the continued great content. Looking forward to the next one.
The anti-Purdy stuff is starting to get out of control 😂
It’s not anti-Purdy at all. It’s a balanced analysis.
Tell me you have a negative football iq without telling me you have a negative football iq
Great Video as usual! So with that, who do you think will get the week 1 start for San Fran?
He just told the truth about Brock so it will not be him tray all day
Trey5ive🤴🏾
Great video, Alex! Can’t wait to see you blow past 100K subs this season!
Thanks brother! I'm juiced
Wow great video, you make a lot of good points and back then up.
As a niners fan I can say the problem is Shanahan wants to be QB 1, 2 and 3. Even if a QB makes a awesome play, if it's not what Kyle wanted, Kyle gets mad... But it's not, and will never be, his fault that 4 QBs got hurt the year. He usually goes through at least 2 QBs per season. If Jimmy stays healthy this year, after the foot surgery, a lot of questions have to be made
Also I'm unsure they have the knowledge on how to develop Brock. The current QB coach said pretty much "you throw the way you throw, nothing we can do to change that". Between that and Kyle being a micromanager, I'm not sure there is a lot of QB development happening in Santa Clara.
Explain how injuries are the coaches fault
Jimmy isn't on the 49er roster anymore
Are you meaning to tell me that 4 QBs injured in a year, 2 injured in the same game, is not a pattern? I mean, running your QB more than your RB and between the tackles, use a third string TE to block a player that ended with 2.5 less sacks than the defensive player of the year (16 vs Nick's 18.5). At some point we can't just say "oh shucks we have so much bad luck"
@@stevemadak6255 yeah that's why I'm saying, if Jimmy stays healthy after leaving the team then the problem might actually be inside the 49ers staff
Even if he throws deep a little bit that will keep defenses from crowding the short to intermediate area. If he can run even sometimes for several yards that will keep defenses guessing as well. Pluse the kid is young so he has a lot of room to grow. All those things I think make him a franchise QB with Shanahan.
Brock is the 2nd fastest QB in the NFL.. his 1.55 10 yard split is super fast.. the same as CMC
The most level-headed analysis I've heard so far. The reaction to Purdy is just like the reaction to Jimmy in 2017. Jimmy was better than what we had before so we exaggerated his ability. Purdy is a little better than Jimmy, definitely more mobile, but that doesn't make him a top-10 or top-15 QB in the NFL.
Thanks for addressing the dropped picks. I can't stand when people say "dropped int's don't count" when Purdy's throwing an inordinate amount of passes right into defenders' hands.
Thanks MJB
@@AlexRollinsNFLclose only counts in horseshoes.
Leadership is not a stat you can quantify. The team loved playing with Brock. But also, I think its important to take into account this is Brock Purdy in his rookie year as a third string QB. When he gets an entire offseason to develop and grow, who knows what he could be. He's as good as Jimmy now and that POTENTIAL feels very important.
Yeah you make good points about Brock being a good leader and the team loving to play with him. But u gotta remember - Brock is injured right now. His UCL recovery has gone really good but he’s still a couple of weeks out from true throwing practice. His off-season was filled with Rehab, while the other QB’s on the 49ers (Trey Lance, Sam Darnold, Brandon Allen), have gone through off-season on the practice field. You are right about his potential to be great, but me personally I think we should let Brock rest the first two games of the season and see what we have in both Lance and Darnold.
There is no way the locker room likes Brock more than they like jimmy. Be serious. 😂
@@Saixjacket and how exactly would you know that? Were you back there in the locker room this past season?
@@ragequitrome just look at the interviews were George Kittle is talking about the transition, and you can tell that Jimmy was his boy, and kittle is the locker room. Kittle is giving the young man a professional level of courtesy, but you can tell the chemistry isn’t the same.
@@Saixjacket I just don’t think there’s a tangible way to know that. I don’t see why he can’t like Brock as much as he did Jimmy. The team just wants to win at the end of the day, but to each their own
Only a smooth brain casual would think they are similiar. Purdy forces the ball downfield consistently and is highly evasive in the pocket. The only thing they have in common is short/intermediate accuracy and a coaching system that encourages YAC.
Bears fan here... thanks for passing on Fields :)
Thank the FO and Kyle Shannahan, not us 😂😂
There's a key difference: one guy is cheap and has room to develop.
Great videos! Love your analysis.
Jimmy gets a bad rap, but his durability sure doesn't help. What really stands out to me the last three years is that Kyle is a very smart but flawed HC. He's like a not absolutely terrible Josh McD. Good schemes, good ideas, but inflexible execution. He didn't just magically land a QB that plays exactly like the last one. He crammed his latest QB into the same damn system. TBF, this might be a bias showing against Kyle, but I just think of those wince-worthy QB run designs he was throwing Trey into, and I kind of see flaws everywhere I look.
Wow this was very informative
I think the reason fans are so excited about Brock Purdy is that is still so young and has lots of time to improve, whereas Garropolo is a known quantity so what you see is what you get.
One was an undrafted rookie and the other was a veteran that would make game losing mistakes that veterans shouldn’t make
They were both drafted. Brock was last pick. But agree with your point
0:49 Yes, their 2022 stats are essentially the same. However, the crucial context there is that we're comparing Purdy's rookie season to essentially Garoppolo's *best* season. Those stats pretty much represent the ceiling for Garoppolo, but for Purdy they're, if not exactly the floor, something we'd expect him to build off of. I also disagree with your point that Purdy can't progress beyond his first read or two on a play; I've watched other analysis videos that show numerous examples where Purdy makes important plays by finding his 3rd read - he did this twice for TDs in the wild-card game alone. He also has demonstrated excellent ability to learn from mistakes both from one game to the next and within games.
I agree that Garappolo was a good quarterback overall. I think Purdy demonstrated he was approximately as good as Garappolo, but with the potential to get even better. Ultimately, the reason the 49ers let Jimmy walk had nothing to do with hating or undervaluing him - it was simply that they figured Purdy offered them at least the same capability at a fraction of the cost, and they've got plenty of other uses for that money.
I don't think this is Jimmy's season, if you look at it, this is really just his 3rd year as a starter and you really can see progress in his play, he noticeably had less ints, was more loose with the football and took better care of it, also I've always felt shanahan has restrained jimmy into a script, limiting his play, so, he definitely can improve a lot, as he is probably about to enter his prime.... But oh well, it's just time to watch and see for ourselves
Great video. It's definitely going to ruffle some feathers since Brock's wholesome story is still in it's honeymoon phase, but I'm glad you put this out there, because it's not that outlandish of an opinion. The folks at PFF were essentially saying the same thing this entire time as his passing grade charts similarly to what Jimmy's output was, while acknowledging he did add slight value with his mobility. I'm a 49ers fan, and while his rise has been really exciting for the last pick of the draft, I don't have a feeling he'll be the next megastar in the league at the QB position. He's on a dynamite roster with maybe the best offensive coach in the league. And that's ok, as it doesn't invalidate what he's done as he's still miles better than some other guys that have been around with Shanahan like Beathard or Hoyer. I'm really just happy he's on a rookie deal, and I will say that watching the games I felt a lot more comfortable with him in the saddle than Lance. Jimmy G sadly wore out his welcome with the fanbase, but if the 49ers have another younger, cheaper, and not injured riddled Jimmy QB than that's a win. He's already injured though, so who knows how his recovery will shake out. I'm hoping for more of the same, and that he's not a flash in the pan. Appreciate the spotlight on the red and gold. Cheers mate.
Well this hasn’t age well… now we know the veteran Garoppolo would love to be as good as Purdy… not even close!
Statistics aside, Kurt Warner did a great in-depth 2 video breakdown of Brock Purdy, and he was quite positive on Purdy. I respectfully disagree and I don't see Jimmy and Brock as the "same player".
Agreed
What’s the difference between 2017 Jimmy g and todays purdy? Just a better team.
@@dkoda840Purdy is more mobile, and that's a massive difference because Jimmy was almost a statue in the pocket with the occasional roll out
@@LaMarcGasoldridge Yet it doesn't matter at all. They are not leveraging that slightly more mobility because it isnt enough to even be a difference. I think Purdy is solid but unless he literally becomes the reincarnation of Brady or Brees or the Niners get someone else elite to help Purdy he will just be another Jimmy G but cheaper. There is a reason they drafted Lance in the first place the Niners want to get over the hump. Purdy is just slightly better in the deep middle which is a difference but how long can he just live there and win a SB.
@@dkoda840 It definitely does matter. He was a rookie, so his pocket presence can improve, which is why his ceiling is higher than Jimmys. You can't just see what he did as a rookie and not atleast project him to build off of it. He's surprisingly athletic, something he doesn't get credit for. Im not sold on him being a star yet, but I'm also not going to write him off as the next Jimmy when hes played better than Jimmy ever has. Lets not forget Jimmy has had 0 good playoff games in his entire career, and Purdy has had 1 to 2 good/solid ones as a rookie
Brock Purdy was better outside the numbers as a rookie vs Jimmy G. a 9 year veteran. Keep in mind Purdy was a rookie last year and Jimmy G was a 9 year veteran.
Niners fan here... and I've been saying this same exact thing all along. Ppl thinking it's a negative or knock on Brock really shows how they feel about Jimmy, which is unfortunate. Brock's processing is a little better which counts for a lot. Other than that... two peas baby.
If he’s actually Jimmy on a rookie deal that’s not bad
Good vid. They let JG go 'cause he was a free agent whose salary demands would be untenable within their salary cap.
What I got tired of seeing with Jimmy is that if a defender breathed on him, he got sacked.
Watching the games and post-game press, it was just obvious what Brock brought to the team. Swagger.
Oh yes mr irrelevant has much more swagger than porn Star jimmy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yep. No happy feet and seeing ghosts. Brock is way better.
Everybody gives Garroppolo a hard time. Always liked him and his play.
Why still didn't win a Superbowl Kyle still hasn't tried to win one after all garbage
I agree
@@AlexRollinsNFL I love your show
@@roemellobell Thanks Roemello!
@@AlexRollinsNFLyou failed to mention the salary cap implications. Even if they are the same (which I don't think they are since Purdy is a rookie doing what a veteran Jimmy did) Brock is waaaaay cheaper.. allows them to keep pieces.. very similar to how Russ played out initially in Seattle, but Brock's even cheaper and the cap is larger now..
Same stats, different number and quality of games. Jimmy G had 16 touchdowns in 10 games, Brock had 16 in 8 with 2 of those being playoff games with additional pressure (only counting games with 20+ passing attempts). That's a major difference.
People forget Diggs dropped an Interception that would have probably won the Cowboys the game...that being said if Purdy throws with more velocity that would explain why so many of his INTs were dropped.
Na, that arm was weak and it might be weaker now.
@@MrKwatts27 Maybe it's because it's wobbly IDK or maybe he just got lucky which means the pendulum will spin the other way soon
This has aged like warm milk.
Looks like it aged just fine after all
@@retireddcuo5783 I beg to differ
The difference isnt really one you can see in most stats. It's in a pretty obscure analytic called BDE. BDE stands for Big Dick Energy, and measures whether or not a player has that dog in him. Jimmy G shrinks in clutch moments, and Big Cock Brock showed absolutely no fear as a rookie 3rd stringer during a deep playoff run. Didn't get in his head and would have won that game if he didn't get injured. Jimmy G on the other hand lost to the Chiefs in a superbowl that probably 70% of the qbs in the league would have won.
Same stats - one a rookie one a seasoned vet. And the massive salary difference. That’s all you need to k ow.
The blame lies with the HEAD COACH. He is the one who passed on Mahomes and all the other elite quarterbacks of the last 5 years and when he finally tries and draft a QB with the #3 pick, he benched him after 4 starts. He ruined RG3, got Trey Lance injured, complained about JG incessantly yet could never move off him. He keeps drafting mediocre QBs like Mullen’s and Beathard and becomes completely obsessed with back up quarterbacks. His original plan was start BRIAN HOYER and then wait for KIRK COUSINS. Shanahan is ridiculous and CANNOT scout, draft, or evaluate the QB position. If he really wanted a Super Bowl he would have been more aggressive for Stafford or Rodgers or Brady, literally any competent veteran QB, but the big secret is that he doesn’t want an elite quarterback because he wants the credit for winning with a mediocre quarterback and that’s why he’ll never win a Super Bowl.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Hey... just wondering if your opinion has changed on Purdy? Edit: NM... just saw your Purdy video from a few days ago!
I think Purdy is better now, but the Jimmy video wasn't really supposed to be a negative like Jimmy intended. Jimmy was top 5 in y/a like every year he played in SF
Well done Alex
Thanks Ryan!
I was wondering when you were gonna show up.😂
A lot of teams wish their 1st round QBs could measure up to Jimmy Garoppolo after half a rookie season. Way too early to start declaring things like "Brock likes to hold onto the ball too long", as if that's not something every rookie QB goes through.
I agree on this. Jimmy played the best standard of what a pocket QB should do in the modern NFL to attack the middle of the field that even most first round rookies can't do. So if Brock is capable of doing that while adding better pocket mobility and recognizing coverages better, he's prepped to surpass that floor that many 1st~3rd round QBs can't even clear.
He literally did hold on to the ball too long on numerous occasions. Is that common for a rookie? Very. Does he absolutely need to get better at getting the ball out on time? 100%. And his elbow reminds him of that every day I’m sure.
BS. Purdy is the same kind of QB as Jimmy G but better in every facet of the game. He has much better awareness, is more composed, better at letting plays develop, has better late reads, can scramble, improvise and makes less mistakes. The stats offer a very narrow comparison.
I think Brock Purdy is a case of some intangible factor that simply made them better. Garoppolo was better than people give them credit for, but Purdy seemed to play better when he needed to.
I love how people get mad when they call Brock jimmy 2.0 but the proof is the pudding. Also they were moving off jimmy because he couldn’t stay healthy and they kept insisting they needed a starting quarterback that can play a full season, they went after Rodgers they went after Watson they ended up with lance and now they wanna pívot from lance for a guy that had 2 injuries in 8 games lol
Little doubt that Purdy went to the right scheme for him. That being said, why Purdy over Garoppolo? Former is on a rookie contract while the latter was expensive and injury prone. Pretty simple.
the jimmy debate was over when kyle drafted lance.
@AlexRlloinsNFL - Just a little update today: Colin has been working out 5 times a week. His "load management" period has been sufficient.
As far a free agents are concerned, he's wide-ass open ! :)
Time for a Chip?
We will see where Brock Purdy ends up following this year, but his stats last year were wildly more efficient that Jimmy G. The same TDs in less games started and less sacks raises the level of the offense.
Purdy is more athletic than Garoppolo and can do more with off platform throws. More importantly, he completes more deep passes. To compare, Jimmy G's Completed Air Yards per Pass Attempt last year was 3.2. Purdy's CAY/PA meanwhile was 3.9, which, by the way, was higher than Mahomes' 3.7 CAY/PA.
It's ok.... You cant always be right.
Would have liked more A-B comparisons of game film rather than a PFF summary to fit your narrative.
Thats Purdy's base form. Just wait until he goes Super Saiyan
We’ll have to see about that Alexander
The Niners have arguably the best defense in the league and tons of offensive weapons. If they lose this year the qb no matter who it is, is going to take the blame unfortunately. Wouldn't be surprised to see both guys start this year
Some of yall getting caught with your feelings after hearing this.😂
All of that aside, if you move pass his hype this is what Purdy is, at least for right now could he get better of course he can. Alex isn't lying in what he's saying there were int's that should've picked off (fortunately they weren't), good bit of his throws were to wide open receivers, and I'm pretty sure the stats he gave us anyone can find for themselves and see whether he's lying or not. All I'm saying is we need to pump the brakes on Purdy because this season whenever he plays the defenses will be ready for him unlike last year because now they got a good amount of tape on him.
Alex, in no way should he have had 5 more picks. He probably should have had 3 more but he also had 2 that shouldn’t have been picks or were arm punts on 3rd/4th. Normalizing everything, he probably should have had 2 more total. The fact that he looks downfield first and then works his way back, unlike Jimmy who literally doesn’t look deep at all is what opened the offense up. Jimmy has benefitted from an elite defense (2019 was absolutely better than last year) every season and still pissed away countless possessions because of his abject inability to go deep.
Additionally, their numbers are pretty similar with Brock getting 0 first team reps and as a rookie, and Jimmy as a 10 year vet. Just taking a few deep chances and having the ability to extend plays and do something off schedule is what makes th offense elite. One of those TDs behind the LOS was when Brock danced around several pass rushers to whip to a wide open CMC (or Mitchell I’d have to rewatch the play) for the walk in TD. When’s the last time we had a QB that could routinely find the check down out of the backfield? Those plays are super valuable when used correctly because they’re very low risk with medium reward, and since Garcia we haven’t had a single qb that possessed both the athleticism to extend plays, and the vision/accuracy to find that wide open man. Kaep and Jimmy each had different halves of that equation and we watched as an endless array of wide open HBs were overlooked.
Brock isn’t gonna be a HOF level next season, he probably won’t even be all pro. But if he matches last season process wise, with slightly worse results due to regression, this offense is still gonna be top 5 and far more consistent than it was with Jimmy. Most of the time brock got us a nice early lead and then KS would sit on it. Jimmy at best would get a 10 point lead and then fall apart the rest of the game. This isn’t baseball where you can isolate numbers to really tell a story, advanced stats have always been really kind to Jimmy, but no defenses respected him. The fact he took significantly less than Daniel Jones and played last year at what was essentially a rookie wage shows you how the football world thinks of Jimmy.
that's not an insult Jimmy g is a fucking beast also purdy can throw it to the sideline and seems to have a higher clutch factor
Jimmy Garoppolo has been in the NFL for 9 seasons... Brock Purdy was a 7th round rookie nobody and just looked like fire... you could see the team rally around him... everyone who watched it saw it. Just the fact that Purdy could come in as a 7th round rookie, the very last guy picked in the draft, who was leading the scout offense in practice and not even practicing with the offensive game plan and look in most people's opinion considerably better than a 9 year veteran QB who as you put it has been to super bowls and nfc championships is remarkable in my opinion... I like Jimmy but he is fragile, and too easy going, and no edge to him... Purdy just has this fire and quiet confidence to him. Montana Esque
Alex, i agree with you. but for me that's a good thing. Shannahan system with 49ers in the last years doesn't have many go route, deboo is amazing, but not a 9-only WR.
Shanny did the right thing to keep the system at it was, and don't change it for the third time in a season.
Then, you have that Purdy is as good as a 9th year veteran. The arm to sling on deep was been shown. If he recovers from UCL injury, the best is yet to come
I agree! I think Jimmy is better than people think, and Brock worse. Doesn't mean either are bad
I agree with you I wish JIMMY G the best great guy ❤
As the other commenters are pointing out, the fact that an NFL rookie came in and played "the same" as a 9 year vet doesn't mean they're the same. Also, Kyle played a fraction as much play action with Purdy because he trusts him to run more of his offense.
Well, thing is like you said, they were both pressed into service on the fly without the benefit of being “the guy”, for the whole season.
But the real story of the SF Qb odyssey is that all of you analysts jumped up and down salivating over Lance and we all see how that played out. 😂
I advocated for Mac Jones to the 49ers which with his processing ability would have turned the 49er offense into the equivalent of the Falcon offense that nearly won a Super Bowl.
Had they taken Jones the 49ers would have won at least one ring by now.
A rookie in this system is great, he played to what was expected. He ran the system with his strengths. For a scheme that is complex Shanahan, this was expected. I didn't expect him to do more. And the CPOE (while a little under ~3%) proves that. That's why we got Trey. The QB should run the scheme and exceed it. His legs and his arms alongs people to add more than just the dig and pin, etcs where some Go balls from 2016 Falcons can come in.
You expected a rookie, and not just a rookie, but the last player in the draft, to come in cold with six games to go and perform (statistically) as a top 5 QB in the league in the midst of a playoff run and then go on to win two playoff games?
Mr Relevant is young. I have faith we will be even better as time goes by
Guys over here comparing a rookie to a nine year vet. 😂😂😂😂😂 talk to me after 2-3 more years.
Brock was carried by a group of superstars. Put him at qb without George kittle, brandan aiyuk, deebo Samuel, juan jennings, CMC, and an elite OL with arguably the best left tackle ever, and he’d be below average. Also helps that he had a top 5 defense too.
Stupid comment every QB would not look good with a bunch of nobodies
No QB will escape Shanahan's shadow. I don't agree with your take here Alex. Purdy is a rookie and Jimmy is a seasoned vet, so equating them simply shows how much better Purdy is.
Interesting analysis. We'll see what happens when Purdy is given the whole year (crossing fingers). I believe you're are right about Jimmy "Cement Legs" Garoppolo :) I'm going to watch how he does behind an average O-line in the Raiders. Basically, you can't put the game on Garoppolo's back and tell him to win it for you. With Purdy, I believe there is a chance.
raiders gonna cut him before you get the chance
Let’s see what happens when Trey is given the whole year and let’s run Purdy up the middle 13-16 times a game without Kittle and CMC 😂😂