Investment Book Review - Analyst Shares Top 5 Reads for Investors

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    Highlighted Investing Books
    - 1:18 : A Random Walk Down Wall Street, by Burton G. Malkiel
    - 2:52 : The Education of A Value Investor, by Guy Spier
    - 5:28 : The Intelligent Investor, by Benjamin Graham
    - 7:35 : Easy Prey Investors, by Al & Mark Rosen
    - 10:02 : One Up on Wall Street, by Peter Lynch
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  • @ThePlainBagel
    @ThePlainBagel  2 года назад +14

    Happy Friday everyone! The first 100 people to go to www.blinkist.com/theplainbagel will get unlimited access for 1 week to try it out. You'll also get 25% off if you want the full membership.

    • @Larry82ch
      @Larry82ch 2 года назад +1

      I'd recommend "More Money than God" by Sebastian Mallaby. It's about the history of hedge funds and I found it to be very entertaining.

    • @theace110013
      @theace110013 2 года назад

      Quick question Richard! You mentioned creating a checklist to go over everytime you analyze a stock. Would you mind sharing your list?

    • @muhammadyusoffjamaluddin
      @muhammadyusoffjamaluddin 2 года назад

      I love the intro 😂
      Next decoration is... The bookshelf!?!?! 🤣🤣

    • @LionsHoney13
      @LionsHoney13 2 года назад

      Hey man someone else also commented on one of your other videos concerned about what looks like a lump on the right side of your neck and am hoping you see this and get it checked out

    • @muhammadyusoffjamaluddin
      @muhammadyusoffjamaluddin 2 года назад

      @@LionsHoney13 you can see it on 0:25,
      But is that even a place for thyroid?
      Yeah he might have something inside his body, I mean… should I say it? 😅

  • @tomyao7884
    @tomyao7884 2 года назад +51

    the fact you have a book there on forensic accounting increases my respect for you a lot. It seems so many investors these days, even institutional ones, forget to actually read through the details of the statements and make rational realistic decisions based on them.

  • @talbotsunbeamer
    @talbotsunbeamer 2 года назад +90

    Try 'The Psychology of Money', by Morgan Housel. Another non-technical one which focuses more on your approach to investing and avoiding the noise of Wall Street.

    • @chivasowle286
      @chivasowle286 2 года назад +8

      Yes I like this one as well. I really, really appreciate the non-critical lens of how people spend money. So refreshing in the personal finance space.

    • @haggis884
      @haggis884 2 года назад +1

      I really enjoyed The Psychology of Money', by Morgan Housel.

    • @joshzuiderhoek4716
      @joshzuiderhoek4716 2 года назад

      Reading that one rn, love it!

    • @padraic9242
      @padraic9242 2 года назад +1

      Loved this book, just finished it

  • @HowMoneyWorks
    @HowMoneyWorks 2 года назад +105

    I really like "Corporate Finance: Investment and Advisory Applications" by Patrick Boyle... very easy read....
    JK it's super academic but I really like Patrick and will promote his book anyways

  • @imareallybigdeal
    @imareallybigdeal 2 года назад +4

    I've wanted a video like this forever. Thank you so much for this list of helpful resources.

  • @vanlam8929
    @vanlam8929 2 года назад +2

    your channel bring so much value, appreciate it. I am a fan of value investing !

  • @SherlockMahomes99
    @SherlockMahomes99 2 года назад +6

    2 videos back to back?! Awesome stuff as always Richard! Much love 😎

  • @joshuamurphy75
    @joshuamurphy75 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the recommendations. The forensic accounting book sounds really fun. I’ll read that one next.

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive 10 месяцев назад

    THANK YOU for the books and the channel.

  • @SuperJohnep
    @SuperJohnep 2 года назад +1

    As always a very valuable video thank you so much

  • @xK9547
    @xK9547 2 года назад +38

    "The Psychology of Money" by Morgan Housel is excellent, its more of a personal finance book rather than strictly investing. Its 18 short stories on everything money/finance related. Highly recommend, it is a quick and easy read.

  • @Hghjjg808
    @Hghjjg808 2 года назад +1

    2 videos in less than 24hour!? Loving them

  • @investingbookhighlights5007
    @investingbookhighlights5007 2 года назад +1

    I love a book review! Thanks Richard. 👍

  • @bigjigyeah
    @bigjigyeah 2 года назад +15

    One Up On Wall Street is great! To add, I would recommend Joel Greenblatt’s books The Little Book That Beats the Market (tips for passive investing on steroids) and You Can Be a Stock Market Genius (tacky title, but the content is good. Bit hard to get through if you’re a complete beginner to investing though)

  • @Hiraaad
    @Hiraaad 2 года назад +16

    The two books that I recommend are:
    1) Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel
    It’s super short but very informative and non-technical for less savvy readers. I recommended it to my sister who doesn’t know anything about investing and she absolutely loved it!
    2) The Black Swan by Nassim Taleb
    Very well-written book that was so effective that I actually changed my investment strategy as the result of it!

  • @hugocerdeira9341
    @hugocerdeira9341 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video

  • @wmattit4939
    @wmattit4939 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you Richard, great video as usual. I would recommend “The most important thing” by Howard Marks.

  • @MecatronixAngel
    @MecatronixAngel 2 года назад +2

    I'm reading "rule #1" by Phil Town. It has been pretty helpful to give you the basics on some of the aspects to pick a good stock without having a lot or technical knowledge about finance. It also makes pretty clear some important concepts like PE ratio, ROIC, EPS, etc.

  • @AnirudhGiri
    @AnirudhGiri 2 года назад +1

    Woah! Two PB videos in a day, Christmas came early!

  • @HiroshimaXl
    @HiroshimaXl 2 года назад +1

    I was waiting for the Benjamin Graham reference and I was not disappointed. I'd probably of gone with security analysis though. One up on wall st is also fantastic 👏

  • @bpacheco6
    @bpacheco6 2 года назад +2

    finally an excuse to buy a Kindle, thank you for the recommendations!

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive 10 месяцев назад

    I LOVE this video!

  • @user-wj1jd2in7e
    @user-wj1jd2in7e 2 года назад +2

    Thinking, fast and slow Daniel Kahneman. This was my breakthrough book in university back in the days.

  • @ziksy6460
    @ziksy6460 2 года назад +3

    *Richer, Wiser, Happier.*
    The author interviewed some of the best value Investors over the last century (Buffett, Munger, Templeton, Pabrai, and many more).
    I think it's an important book for anyone who wants to understand the philosophy behind value investing.

  • @jroig824
    @jroig824 2 года назад +5

    Awesome content! After learning all these basic introductory books to investing I am more interested in accounting books for investors. Ideally if they can help me analyse US and European companies besides Canadian ones. Currently reading Valuation (McKinsey), do you know other good such type of books? Thanks

  • @earthling_parth
    @earthling_parth 2 года назад

    This will be really helpful for a novice like me. Thanks 👍

  • @acholouscognoscente
    @acholouscognoscente 6 месяцев назад

    Hope to see another book recommendation list in the future.

  • @andersneldebergnielsen4972
    @andersneldebergnielsen4972 2 года назад +2

    I have been reading through Investment philosophies by Aswath Damodaran and think that it is a good book to get a basic introduction to different investment philopsophies, such as value investing, technical analysis, hedge funds investment etc
    Secondly it also provides data on the performance of each strategy which is really good to get some perspective on what will work for the individual investor
    It is a bit of a academic text book and can be a bit boring at times, but it provides good insight into pros and cons of each strategy

  • @Zaerki
    @Zaerki 2 года назад +1

    Actually reading a random walk right now, it's great wisdom.

  • @demilishing
    @demilishing 2 года назад +1

    I liked The Snowball which is an autobiography about Warran Buffets. Much less to do about investing but it is still a great read!

  • @SherlockMahomes99
    @SherlockMahomes99 2 года назад +12

    Peter Lynch is my favorite investor of all time. I listened to all his books via audio books.

  • @liammacinnis1146
    @liammacinnis1146 2 года назад +1

    My favourite book on macroeconomics is the Holly Grail of Macro Economics, phenomenal book in the Japanese balance sheet recession

  • @ThisIsMyUserName409
    @ThisIsMyUserName409 2 года назад +4

    I would add "Fooled by Randomness" to the recommendation list.

  • @thomasphoenix3228
    @thomasphoenix3228 2 года назад +1

    I want one of those lamps!

  • @gabi.a
    @gabi.a 2 года назад +1

    The Zurich axioms, by Max Gunther is pretty good. It's about basic principlas, like not getting too greedy, he explains the idea and tell stories so we get how bad or good things can be. :)

  • @jbullionaire2749
    @jbullionaire2749 2 года назад +2

    A random walk is next on my 'to read' pile!

  • @bUnNyDiNo
    @bUnNyDiNo 2 года назад +3

    My all time favorite "Traders, Guns and Money: Knowns and Unknowns in the Dazzling World of Derivatives", great insights and crazy stories.

  • @emyrthomas2843
    @emyrthomas2843 2 года назад +3

    Not an investing book, but The millionaire next door is a classic

  • @scottsokoloski6381
    @scottsokoloski6381 2 года назад +1

    Hey Richard. I have a collection of investing books myself, including some of these excellent recommendations. As a fellow Canadian, I was wondering if you have any suggestions for more Canadian books?

  • @ideashop4981
    @ideashop4981 2 года назад +1

    All by philip mirowski (also theyre all 10s)
    1. The knowledge we have lost in information
    2. Never let a serious crisis go to waste
    3. More heat than light
    4. Machine dreams
    5. Against Mechanism

  • @xylol6525
    @xylol6525 2 года назад +6

    A book that I loved to reread on Personal Finance is "The Psychology of Money" by Morgan House

  • @patrickmeehan6856
    @patrickmeehan6856 2 года назад +1

    Random Walk should be 1-5. Thanks for this video.

  • @pranshuanand4560
    @pranshuanand4560 2 года назад

    Diamonds in the dust. From a different market and will definitely have names that you would not have heard but great principles and insights

  • @grunskigames
    @grunskigames Год назад +4

    The book which made both investing and money management 'click' for me was Geroge S Clason's 'The Richest Man in Babylon'. Clason wrote a series of parrables on understanding 'how money works' based on his own business which he sold to banks during the Great Depression which, in turn, were collated and printed into the book we know today. I would love to know Plain Bagels' opinion on this work.*
    * It's a short read (~100 pages) and succinct. Would reccomend!

  • @chickenkeeper3450
    @chickenkeeper3450 2 года назад +1

    Hello Plain Bagel, I think a good idea for your next video is to share your thoughts about Investment analyst / Equity research / Portfolio management jobs. For example how does your day look like? What personality traits/types fit this kind of jobs best (according to you)? How do you see the future of this kind of jobs? What do you like / don’t like about it?

  • @bygnahzdivad
    @bygnahzdivad 2 года назад +1

    This is probably more of a recommendation for "advanced" retail investors that's interested in credit investments, but I would really recommend Veronesi's book on fixed-income securities (i.e., "Fixed Income Securities: Valuation, Risk, and Risk Management"). I know your channel and viewers are mainly interested in equity investments, but this is definitely a worthwhile read for those that's curious about the credit market.

  • @jacobschmidt7847
    @jacobschmidt7847 2 года назад +6

    I really good one for beginners is “Why stocks go up and down” By William Pike

  • @owningthehand
    @owningthehand 2 года назад +3

    I would recommend Debt: The First 5,000 Years
    by David Graeber to see just how much debt influences us

  • @chessskits1208
    @chessskits1208 2 года назад +1

    Can you do another book review please? There are so many book out there and I don’t know which on are worth it. I need to make sure they have the plain bagel stamp of approval lol.

  • @Premium_Water
    @Premium_Water 2 года назад +3

    Love the book reviews have 3 out of 5 books you recommended.

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 2 года назад +1

      Which ones

    • @Premium_Water
      @Premium_Water 2 года назад +2

      @@kirilmihaylov1934
      A Random Walk Down Wall Street, by Burton G. Malkiel
      The Intelligent Investor, by Benjamin Graham
      One Up on Wall Street, by Peter Lynch

    • @kirilmihaylov1934
      @kirilmihaylov1934 2 года назад +1

      @@Premium_Water intelligent investor is the best one

  • @MarkusLaumann
    @MarkusLaumann 2 года назад

    You had me at accounting.

  • @musicnotenshi
    @musicnotenshi 2 года назад +2

    The little book of calm is likely a good read for many today's investors.
    As for the content ideas, maybe the review of the structured products as a class could be a nice addition to your general investing portfolio of videos. As far as I aware they not really popular in US, as massive risk disclosure are mandated, but in emerging markets and europe they are more avaliable and quite a trap for an unexpirienced people.
    Best wishes from Russia ^_^

  • @Accela_cyberia
    @Accela_cyberia 2 года назад +7

    Much respect for including One Up On Wall Street in this list. Peter Lynch's work doesn't get studied enough in this era of fraudfluencers 🙅‍♂️

  • @JosephDickson
    @JosephDickson 2 года назад +1

    I'd add... The Boglehead's Guide to Investing and The Common Sense Guide to Investing.
    Both quickly explore the marketing noise, excessive management fees, and dangers of speculation.

  • @foobar9220
    @foobar9220 2 года назад +1

    There is a more modern version of the intelligent investor from the 70s with a commentary from the early 2000s. Still a bit old but I think some stuff is timeless.
    I can also recommend the intelligent asset allocator. While the actual recommendation is a bit US-centric and probably outdated, it explains the concept of asset class diversification quite well

  • @vexrav
    @vexrav 2 года назад +1

    What's your take on lifecycle investing, arguing in favor of leveraged positions along the same lines of lifecycle funds, but more extreme?

  • @FinancialShinanigan
    @FinancialShinanigan 2 года назад +2

    Peter Lynch shows you don't need risky tech stocks to make money, his best performing buy was Dunkin' Donuts.

  • @RyanArchibaldSmith
    @RyanArchibaldSmith 2 года назад +2

    Learn to Earn is another one from Peter Lynch (though I think through a ghostwriter). Basically his version of Value Investing for Dummies but that's not a bad thing.

  • @happens4656
    @happens4656 2 года назад +10

    My recent favorite is “The Most Important Thing” by Howard Marks. I’m more on the quant side so my investment literature tastes aren’t the same. I’ll have to check out all these books!

    • @mr-boo
      @mr-boo 2 года назад

      As a fellow interested quant: What other books have you read that you find this better than?

    • @happens4656
      @happens4656 2 года назад +2

      @@mr-boo I read the Gregory Zuckerman book about Jim Simons, The Physics of Wall Street by James Owen Weatherall, Ed Thorpe’s biography A Man For All Markets, and liked all of them. I’m trying to build up to some of the Ernie Chan books (Machine Trading, Quantitative Trading, etc) but I’m just not really there yet.

    • @jamesmeow3039
      @jamesmeow3039 2 года назад +2

      @@mr-boo
      "How do you do, fellow quants"
      🧢 🛹

    • @mr-boo
      @mr-boo 2 года назад

      @@happens4656 Thanks, that's useful information! :)

    • @mr-boo
      @mr-boo 2 года назад

      @@jamesmeow3039 Doing mighty fine, why thank you! How are you yourself? Do you have any books or articles you'd like to share as well? :)

  • @SpeedOfDarknesss
    @SpeedOfDarknesss 2 года назад

    Other recommendations:
    - Poor Charlie's Almanack (by Charlie Munger)
    - any book by Howard Marks
    - any book by Joel Greenblatt
    Poor Charlie's Almanack is my favorite, but note that it is not an easy read and includes several non-investment topics.

  • @UsmanAli-ve6tq
    @UsmanAli-ve6tq 2 года назад +1

    Richer, wiser, happier by William Green is great!

  • @HumphreyWittingtonsworthIV
    @HumphreyWittingtonsworthIV 2 года назад +1

    random walk was great!!!

  • @inarticulado
    @inarticulado 2 года назад +3

    I spent almost two years at Graham's book reading! It's really deep and full of data, but still a great book to read - it was the only one I've read from your list. I'm interested in that one about Wall Street. Thanks for your great content!! 😊

  • @shaunwakefield3542
    @shaunwakefield3542 2 года назад +2

    The dhandho investor by mohnish pabrai is a very beginner friendly book. Also very good read for all levels

  • @Traestaree
    @Traestaree 2 года назад

    Between 'Security Analysis' and 'The Intelligent Investor', which would you recommend? I have my dad's copy of the former, and I heard that The Intelligent Investor is a less formal version of the former.

  • @offspringfan1112
    @offspringfan1112 2 года назад +9

    I've only read one investing book cover to cover: The millionaire next door. Not so much an investing strategy book as it is a philosophy book, but it's the cornerstone of my knowledge

  • @Donutman1001
    @Donutman1001 2 года назад

    Any opinion on "Trade like a stock market wizard"?

  • @joujouvideo
    @joujouvideo 2 года назад +1

    I would like to hear your thoughts on DeFi and how such a system can co-exist with traditional monetary policy done by a central bank.

  • @TheSecondAnon
    @TheSecondAnon 2 года назад +5

    I read the Millionaire Next Door, and I think it's a good book on general budgeting and investing advice.

  • @gianmarcovescovo
    @gianmarcovescovo 2 года назад +8

    I recommend you "Warren Buffet and the interpretation of financial statements". Before I've read it I didn't have a consistent approach to fundamental analyisis, this book combined "the pieces of the puzzle" and added something more

  • @chaosmaniac66
    @chaosmaniac66 2 года назад +1

    Irrational exuberance by Robert Shiller. Very relevant in this age of GME, cryptocurrencies, weed stocks, etc.

  • @GlutesEnjoyer
    @GlutesEnjoyer 2 года назад +1

    Margin of Safety by Seth Klarman is basically a must own if you’re a capital manager of any kind. You won’t find a physical copy for less than $700 USD though so good luck lol

  • @Hot_Stank653
    @Hot_Stank653 2 года назад +3

    Which book has the most pictures?

  • @robertpolk5406
    @robertpolk5406 2 года назад +3

    Morgan Housel - The Psychology of Money

  • @hannahbeanies8855
    @hannahbeanies8855 2 года назад +1

    MORE 👏 BOOK 👏 REVIEW 👏

  • @catsharris1
    @catsharris1 2 года назад +1

    Very informative video, absolutely love your content and as a current university student of Economics & Finance I cannot wait to read Easy Prey Investors on my E-Reader (definitely recommend one).
    My title I would definitely check out is ‘Coined’ by Kabir Sehgal. The author by profession is actually a investment banker and Jazz musician ahah. This title also dives into the history of finance, specifically the exchange and how money originated from the biological world.
    BUT, the most fascinating part of this is diving into the topic of Neuroeconomics, really understanding how consumers and retail traders work on a neuroscience level.
    One of my favourite parts is that there is a study on anticipated gain, and essentially someone who is about to be paid from work has the same brain activity as someone who is about to take a hit of cocaine.
    Very weird I know, but overall this title is a medium read, I’d say the first chapter is a bit to get through, but afterwards it’s really enjoyable.

    • @owningthehand
      @owningthehand 2 года назад +1

      Debt: The First 5,000 Years by David Graeber is great book to check out if you liked "Coined"

  • @ayushsrivastava767
    @ayushsrivastava767 2 года назад +1

    any thoughts on THe Principles by Ray Dalio?
    I have only read investing books from Ray Dalio {Principles & Debt cycles} and from Robert Kiyosaki.

  • @ImOutaTime
    @ImOutaTime 2 года назад

    Do any of these books apply for markets outside of the US?

  • @johnnyrichy
    @johnnyrichy 2 года назад

    How about books of Marvin Minervini? Are they any good? They quite expensive where I'm from but I really want to learn.

  • @cdo...49283
    @cdo...49283 2 года назад +1

    All of John Bogles books!

  • @wvvpag
    @wvvpag 2 года назад +1

    What do you think about the Warren buffet stock portfolio written by Mary buffet David Clark?

  • @ParixitNaik
    @ParixitNaik 2 года назад

    Dhandho Investor by Mohnish Prabrai. Really cool new read . Would love to hear ur comments on it. A great audiobook too...

  • @ShivamSingh-jw8ey
    @ShivamSingh-jw8ey 2 года назад

    Some books that are must-reads for all investors:
    Quant Investing:
    1. The Little Book That Beats the Market
    2. Acquirer's Multiple
    3. What Works on Wall Street
    Value Investing:
    1. Dhandho Investor
    2. The University of Berkshire Hathaway
    3. The Essays of Warren Buffett
    4. Security Analysis
    Growth Investing:
    1. Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits
    Macro Investing:
    1. Alchemy of Finance
    Passive Investing:
    1. Trillions

  • @jordanlopac5553
    @jordanlopac5553 2 года назад

    Do you guys write notes when reading these type of books

  • @Kaloyan.Dimitrov
    @Kaloyan.Dimitrov 2 года назад +1

    You can read 'Richer, wiser, happier'. It was first published a few months ago, but it was very inspiring and can be read by people who are not into investing.

    • @chivasowle286
      @chivasowle286 2 года назад +1

      I found it “meh”. To each their own.

  • @NeMatiosaitis
    @NeMatiosaitis 2 года назад

    Market Wizards is a good series. Easy to read and insightful.

    • @buckyfanksy
      @buckyfanksy 2 года назад

      yeah, except its about fucking trading not investing .... geez

    • @NeMatiosaitis
      @NeMatiosaitis 2 года назад

      @@buckyfanksy Have you read it?
      I am not into trading and there is planty of info on stock selections, psychology and ins and outs of the markets.

  • @renatapereira5305
    @renatapereira5305 2 года назад

    As someone who did their undergrad in Accounting and is looking for a career change into investment banking I was about to click away when you mentioned the book😅😂😂

  • @delayedgratification581
    @delayedgratification581 2 года назад +1

    I need your opinion on The Simple Path to Wealth by J. L. Collins plzzzzzz

  • @subusrable
    @subusrable 6 месяцев назад

    I like 'Economics in one lesson'

  • @rodrigomendez5505
    @rodrigomendez5505 2 года назад

    Definitely would like to see a video tax tips if you know any.

  • @Thissa96
    @Thissa96 2 года назад +1

    If you like accounting tricks and how to find them i also recommend: Financial Shenanigans: How to Detect Accounting Gimmicks & Fraud in Financial Reports

  • @kev2633
    @kev2633 2 года назад +1

    I know it might not get as many views but thank you for being practical and informative without all the “LOOK AT ME” “EXPLOSION INCOMING” “WATCH RIGHT NOW THIS IS HAPPENING” junk I used to love watching Charlie at zip trader but recently it’s hard to get through a video without hearing short squeeze or hedge fund amc bullshit 50 times.

  • @josee.1709
    @josee.1709 2 года назад +1

    What do you think of Money: Master the game by Tony Robbins?

  • @TheWoahGold
    @TheWoahGold 2 года назад

    Options as a Strategic Investment

  • @sunnyhing91
    @sunnyhing91 2 года назад

    I wish to have more topics about accounting frauds

  • @miryanski
    @miryanski 2 года назад

    100 to 1 In The Stock Market is also an amazing book.

  • @brianferoldi3745
    @brianferoldi3745 2 года назад +3

    Great list! I'll add "The Little Book That Builds Wealth" by Pat Dorsey. A GREAT book on understanding moats & competitive advantage.

  • @nickcorcoran7638
    @nickcorcoran7638 2 года назад +2

    I liked John boggles the little book of common sense investing

  • @devinshanahan8206
    @devinshanahan8206 2 года назад +1

    Pragmatic Capitalist : What every investor needs to know about money and finance by Cullen Roche. Great book discussing from a macro perspective. if interested should also check out his paper on monetary policy and its impacts

  • @Diego-pc4rc
    @Diego-pc4rc 2 года назад +1

    The Little Book That Beats the Market by Joel Greenblatt is an intresting read