Why I Don't "HODL" Bitcoin

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  • Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
  • First thing’s first: no, it’s not a typo
    Secondly: Bitcoin's back to an all time new high, but I'm sitting out. In this video I explain why.
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  • @huli566
    @huli566 Год назад +882

    This aged well

    • @MiroslawHorbal
      @MiroslawHorbal Год назад +23

      Very well indeed

    • @videobenny3
      @videobenny3 Год назад +68

      Two months later, and it aged VERY well.

    • @huli566
      @huli566 Год назад +16

      Love the follow ups when it got wrecked yet again

    • @LuisLopez2
      @LuisLopez2 Год назад +25

      This aged even better.....oddly enough, faster too.

    • @TemplarLove
      @TemplarLove Год назад +12

      Still continue to age like a fine wine

  • @kevinalbora562
    @kevinalbora562 3 года назад +2150

    If his assessment offends you, you are emotionally attached to your investments. Never a good thing.

    • @Kenny-tl7ir
      @Kenny-tl7ir 3 года назад +44

      Have fun staying poor.

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 3 года назад +30

      @@lrayo do you even know what a Ponzi is?

    • @pluto8404
      @pluto8404 3 года назад +19

      @@deadgorgeousrecords4396 losing money feels good because its an opportunity to see where you fucked up. It only feels bad once you find out you lost because some stupid news headline or tweet manipulated the sheep.

    • @varunsharma9238
      @varunsharma9238 3 года назад +1

      Agreed

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 3 года назад +21

      @@pluto8404 no, losing money feels bad regardless. Maybe you can learn a lesson from it, but if you take pleasure from losses, then I’d imagine you’d balance to be $0.

  • @JamesJani
    @JamesJani 3 года назад +1190

    Gem of a channel for actual analysis, and less hype 🙏

    • @ThePlainBagel
      @ThePlainBagel  3 года назад +80

      Thanks James, that means a lot coming from you!

    • @AJ-iu6nw
      @AJ-iu6nw 3 года назад +5

      @@ThePlainBagel why, who he?

    • @hoaxbusterhodler9676
      @hoaxbusterhodler9676 3 года назад +2

      And fud.

    • @Xx1papercut1xX
      @Xx1papercut1xX 3 года назад +2

      Agreed. Very refreshing to not have another RUclips that focuses on just hype.

    • @stevenandersen6989
      @stevenandersen6989 2 года назад

      @@ThePlainBagel Wait, wasn't HODL something idiot's did back 4 years ago?

  • @omarsabih
    @omarsabih 2 года назад +288

    There's a Schrodinger thing about Bitcoins-- It will have value (and worth investing in) only if it becomes a usable currency. But for it to be a usable currency, it cannot have the wild volatility that the investors love.

    • @fahadalghamdi9316
      @fahadalghamdi9316 2 года назад +59

      Finally! Somebody points that fact out. That stuff is NOT currency. It is the best example of people "investing" for price rather than value. If you choose to invest for price, then you only have yourself to blame if things go horribly wrong.

    • @JHEVR
      @JHEVR 2 года назад +3

      It's a digital asset as gold, but there are other cryptocurrencies, it's volatile, but it's just the beginning of crypto

    • @67kingdedede
      @67kingdedede 2 года назад +3

      @@fahadalghamdi9316 its meant to be more of a store of value than a replacement to the dollar. that will come as a coin in another name.

    • @jurado1010
      @jurado1010 2 года назад +12

      For future reference: the paradox you’re describing has a name, it’s “catch-22”. Another example is “I can’t get a job because I don’t have experience, but I don’t have experience because I can’t get a job”.

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 2 года назад +2

      Reminds me of how Nano is trying to cut away from the crypto space and instead of adopting the hated NFTs are trying to partner with actual companies, its advocates often make apps and programs that aren't just trading alone and are even aiming for the prestigious space in Forex. However, since they are still not used by that many people their prices (so most of their ups and downs) still adhere to Bitcoin (despite trying to do the opposite of what standard cryptocurrencies would do).

  • @spicex4k901
    @spicex4k901 3 года назад +1299

    I own bitcoin because I think it's dumb but I want to hedge against me being dumb.

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz 3 года назад +38

      Shouldn't you short it then to even out the dumbness?

    • @iamFegor
      @iamFegor 3 года назад +39

      That's not what a hedge is

    • @jeevanv8631
      @jeevanv8631 3 года назад +8

      Smart man

    • @m2redshirt
      @m2redshirt 3 года назад +83

      @@iamFegor well he did say he's dumb...

    • @chartabona
      @chartabona 3 года назад +20

      @@tomlxyz That's not evening out, that's doubling down.

  • @OmarExplains
    @OmarExplains 3 года назад +1596

    Damn.. My boy Richard here didn't invest in bitcoin...
    He invested in the gym! Look at them biceps :D

    • @pnkrckmom
      @pnkrckmom 3 года назад +11

      Right??!!!

    • @frankmysterious4410
      @frankmysterious4410 3 года назад +17

      In this video you can't tell much, but he's got some nice pecs too

    • @obctt017
      @obctt017 3 года назад +68

      Its from all his arm movement when talking

    • @phenry1984
      @phenry1984 3 года назад +1

      He sure did. He gave this a good try with Bitcoin.

    • @heitormoreira8167
      @heitormoreira8167 3 года назад

      Ikr?! This guy is a living legend

  • @bvm437
    @bvm437 3 года назад +281

    Never invest in something that's being sold to you. I like that.

    • @uneverknow8154
      @uneverknow8154 3 года назад +15

      Okay, so you won't ever invest in anything because you can't buy something that must be sold to you. I hate when people are thinking in category of slogans repeating someones words as you don't have own opinion without these "wise" slogans. Slogan using people are easy to control. Buy/sell is the market so c'mon yall will be spreading that nonsense slogan to look like you are smart people saying so.

    • @pluto8404
      @pluto8404 3 года назад +15

      @@uneverknow8154 "if you buy bitcoin that isnt sold to you, you stole it" - Benjamin Franklin

    • @pluto8404
      @pluto8404 3 года назад +11

      "Only invest in things that have a higher future value than the present value" - high iq bot

    • @uneverknow8154
      @uneverknow8154 3 года назад

      ​@@pluto8404 nah, I just mined that bitcoin

    • @floxy20
      @floxy20 3 года назад

      Especially the ads which say "send us your money and we'll send you our gold..." [because they say gold is more valuable].

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever 2 года назад +84

    "Only a sith deals in absolutes"
    That's an absolute, Darth Bagel!

  • @f.r.2275
    @f.r.2275 3 года назад +1635

    I do not understand the downvotes and I own crypto. He explained his view in a polite way and he has some good points. I do not agree with him and I will continue buying crypto. No big deal. He is free not to buy, I am free to buy, everybody happy.

    • @prodeaalex7025
      @prodeaalex7025 3 года назад +71

      I do not find his arguments good and in my opinion he doesn't undestand how the Blockchain Technology works, for ex:Private Key/Public key where he explains the danger of losing all your Bitcoins, when you forget your password. You can still have a middle man (exchange) for your BTC if you want (for the Grandmother). Talking about something without making a deeper Reasearch is misleading. People are waching and trying to educate themselfs so I find it correct to downvote something bad.

    • @Martlns
      @Martlns 3 года назад +222

      ​@@prodeaalex7025 If you lose your password and keys the coins are gone. Where exactly is he wrong in this?
      And promoting exchanges is just funny, since all bitcoin hypers do is say ''not your keys, not your coins''.
      So which one is it then? And if you allow the exchange to hold your coins, how is it ANY different than letting a bank hold investments/money, just without the government backing you up if the bank goes under?

    • @aris13pat1
      @aris13pat1 3 года назад +98

      @@prodeaalex7025 It does not matter if he understands Blockchain Technology in the greater scheme of things. It's a detail that very few people truly understand yet they invest no matter what. And yeah sure you can have a middle man trading for you. But here is the catch. If the middle man desides to take your Bitcoins and leave you a goodbye note you can do exactly nothing because Blockchain Technology does not allow payment cancelations. Pretty cool right?

    • @MrDaCynic
      @MrDaCynic 3 года назад +31

      @@aris13pat1 also it's just kicking the can down the road. The middle man can 'forget' the password all the same and you have no recourse to get it back.

    • @alexfosterroman
      @alexfosterroman 3 года назад +12

      @@Martlns the difference is it has a limited supply and not getting inflated away at unknown quantities. Also, it’s not for everyone. If you want the privilege of total control over your wealth it comes with responsibility. Just like how you get home insurance you take the necessary precautions to not lose your keys or diversify on wallets etc.
      However, I will grant you that the barrier to entry is a challenge for those less technologically inclined.

  • @seanji
    @seanji 3 года назад +335

    with all the cult-like sentiment in crypto, your realistic opinion is a breath of fresh air.

    • @terrorbear7
      @terrorbear7 3 года назад

      H

    • @kallsin4617
      @kallsin4617 3 года назад

      A

    • @brandonderrick006
      @brandonderrick006 3 года назад +8

      Cult-like sentiment in every top asset silly point.

    • @mikejazz3001
      @mikejazz3001 3 года назад +1

      Brandon Derrick No not really, no one is their life settings on VT.

    • @Tymegum
      @Tymegum 3 года назад +1

      lol everything have a cult when it comes to investing

  • @marcusaureo
    @marcusaureo 4 месяца назад +7

    Everyone gets bitcoin at price they deserve

  • @laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587
    @laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 3 года назад +32

    this is the most compelling video for being cautious. not just the points of view presented but the WAY you've presented it. you're a very personable youtuber, so it sounds like a friend talking to you about it.

  • @sal_strazzullo
    @sal_strazzullo 3 года назад +244

    When even Graham Stephan bought it, that mean fomo is going crazy

    • @hungpham4615
      @hungpham4615 3 года назад +1

      Did he mention how much he bought?

    • @haosmark
      @haosmark 3 года назад +75

      After seeing one of Andrei's latest videos where he shares his net worth and distribution of assets, it hit me, that most of these finance channels don't even believe in what they are talking about. All of their investments are likely conditional payments for doing promos. I'd be amazed if it isn't the same with Graham. These people just talk at their audience and cash in on ad deals from whoever pays the most. Richard looks to be one of the ethical ones. I have yet to see anything sketchy from him.

    • @kvikende
      @kvikende 3 года назад +17

      @@haosmark Ofc not, what they do is create content to get income. They often even have a patreon and some sob story so millenials and zoomers that should focus on paying down their student debt and save for a home can send them money instead and feel like they're "helping". It's *very* exploitative.

    • @nvnnyz
      @nvnnyz 3 года назад +4

      It plummeted just as he bought

    • @ArsenicApplejuice
      @ArsenicApplejuice 3 года назад +5

      @@hungpham4615 he said he bought $100k

  • @bogeybichon7000
    @bogeybichon7000 3 года назад +141

    GREATLY appreciate the "low-key" approach to your channel and the fact that you turned down "promotional money" from bitcoin advocates gives you even more credibility.
    Thanks for being impartial in a sea of hype.

  • @samuelmcginnis969
    @samuelmcginnis969 4 месяца назад +4

    Plain bagel always ages well.

  • @zechariahlevi2310
    @zechariahlevi2310 3 месяца назад +6

    You seem smart, you'll buy Bitcoin eventually

  • @cauebarros1825
    @cauebarros1825 3 года назад +218

    Man, great video. Im still bullish on bitcoin long term and love my portfolio being 10% crypto. But we do need rational arguments on this topic. I appreciate it. Love your content my man.

    • @littleredpony6868
      @littleredpony6868 3 года назад +7

      You’re right that we need rational arguments about bitcoin. I do see the value bitcoin and other crypto currencies have, at the same time we’re still figuring out where it should be valued at. Bitcoin transactions have gone up drastically in places that have had a currency collapse like Venezuela and Argentina, but at the same time they’ve had a rise in the use of the US dollar and gold and silver as well. I’m trying to remember which one of the 2 are using their own currency only for small purchases and the dollar for larger purchases like a car and a house, and is headed towards a complete switchover to using the dollar for the majority of transactions.

    • @SivalinPuthery
      @SivalinPuthery Год назад +5

      Ka-boom...

    • @swissarmyknight4306
      @swissarmyknight4306 Год назад +4

      You really need to consider the opportunity cost of putting your money in digital monopoly money. 10% of your money was in a pump-and-dump scheme.

    • @cauebarros1825
      @cauebarros1825 Год назад +1

      @@swissarmyknight4306 you aint wrong buddy. But i really see value in crypto. I also believe more and more ppl will wish for approaching sovereignty over their money. If thats the case we should have another bull run. But yeah, im willing to loose 10% if im mistaken.

  • @TheIcelandicInvestor
    @TheIcelandicInvestor 3 года назад +80

    Richard is one of the few voices of reason on this platform 😎

    • @blakemorgan8450
      @blakemorgan8450 3 года назад

      I think he could have gone further with the inflation argument. Why buy Bitcoin if you're worried about inflation? Just buy a REIT. REITs are better than crypto in every measurable way as an inflation hedge. The debt of the REITs gets devalued as inflation rises, the property values increase, and rent increases which increases your distributions funded by cash flow.

    • @greghelton4668
      @greghelton4668 3 года назад

      @@blakemorgan8450 he doesn’t embellish or hype matters. Very level headed.

    • @littleredpony6868
      @littleredpony6868 3 года назад +1

      @@jasonbadua3454 bitcoin transactions have gone up in places like Venezuela and Argentina that have had a currency collapse. Then again transactions with the US dollar along with gold and silver have gone up in those places as well. If you’re worried about inflation it doesn’t hurt to have some of bitcoin, gold and silver as insurance against the worst case scenario. Granted I do consider bitcoin to be more speculative than gold and silver, but it doesn’t hurt to put a small amount into it or other crypto currencies, just in case.

    • @blakemorgan8450
      @blakemorgan8450 3 года назад

      @@jasonbadua3454 I never said REITs were a safe haven asset. I said they were an inflation hedge. Yes there are situations like COVID where people can't pay rent which can hurt returns. Bitcoin is NOT a safe haven asset either. Bitcoin crashes each time the stock market crashes. If you want a perfect safe haven inflation hedge without risk, buy TIPS. Otherwise, REITs and the Materials sector are great hedges against rises in prices.

    • @ZaDowlan
      @ZaDowlan 3 года назад

      Definitely not

  • @manjinderdhillon705
    @manjinderdhillon705 3 месяца назад +5

    Increase your time horizon... Boom, bust, repeat. Higher lows

    • @manjinderdhillon705
      @manjinderdhillon705 3 месяца назад

      Also you marked the bear market bottom lol. Going to keep an eye on your videos to signal the top and bottoms. 1-2% of your portfolio will outperform the rest of your assets

  • @carey-gregory
    @carey-gregory Год назад +136

    This is the second video of yours from a year ago that I've watched in the last two days, and it's the second video of yours from that time that has aged very well indeed. BTC currently down 65% from where it was when this video was made. Thank you for the cool, reasoned, educated assessments.

    • @ondrejbronec837
      @ondrejbronec837 Год назад +7

      The inflation part didn't age as well though...

    • @mediokurgamers8433
      @mediokurgamers8433 Год назад +9

      @@ondrejbronec837 which I think is a good point to be wary of anyone who claims they can predict the future

    • @danb8606
      @danb8606 Год назад +1

      Of course the crypto market is down right now. Our macro markets, like the S&P500 and gold, is down. Until the big boy markets improve, crypto isn't going anywhere. The Crypto market is extremely small compared to the macro markets. Not even a blip on the radar.

    • @1queijocas
      @1queijocas Год назад +4

      @@mediokurgamers8433 He didn't claim there wouldn't be high inflation in this video though

    • @mediokurgamers8433
      @mediokurgamers8433 Год назад

      @@1queijocas the point isn't whether or not someone did predict, the main point is that you should be wary of anyone who says they can predict the future with any sort of accuracy

  • @mihailomaksa2184
    @mihailomaksa2184 3 года назад +283

    Everyone buys bitcoin at the price that they deserve.

    • @phenry1984
      @phenry1984 3 года назад +23

      You are so fucking right. Best sentence I have read all day. Thanks man.

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb 3 года назад +23

      Everybody sells BTC at a price they deserve

    • @Riley-Thurm
      @Riley-Thurm 3 года назад +1

      How do I favorite a comment?

    • @BeC0o1
      @BeC0o1 3 года назад +3

      Literally applauded. One of the best remarks about bitcoin I’ve ever seen

    • @loron259
      @loron259 3 года назад +3

      Isnt that true for anything tho ?

  • @kingtut4734
    @kingtut4734 3 года назад +104

    This is why you are one of the very few financial advisors that I trust.

    • @taikamiya8214
      @taikamiya8214 3 года назад +2

      Yes "don't buy Bitcoin just after a halving" is some trustworthy advice.

    • @Ravi-xf8dw
      @Ravi-xf8dw Год назад +14

      @@taikamiya8214 lol how is your bitcoin going?

    • @taikamiya8214
      @taikamiya8214 Год назад +1

      @@Ravi-xf8dw Fantastic... I got rid of my bank account in 2018.

    • @nabicx
      @nabicx Год назад +6

      @@taikamiya8214 so you havent cashed out... you gained nothing

    • @taikamiya8214
      @taikamiya8214 Год назад

      @@nabicx What do you mean "cash out"? I don't have a bank account, I don't use fiat. I've only been spending Bitcoin since 2018.

  • @s1351-null
    @s1351-null 2 года назад +19

    As a Bitcoin 'hodler' I liked your video and you've gained a subscriber. And although I see a bright future for Bitcoin, it is for sure a very high risk speculative asset, other crypto are even worse. Also, never invest more in Bitcoin/crypto than you are willing to lose!

    • @troykerrshredz8193
      @troykerrshredz8193 Год назад +2

      hows that going for ya? millionaire yet?

    • @msalas5963
      @msalas5963 11 месяцев назад

      Well I hope you're okay losing your bitcoin investment!!!
      😂😝😛😛🤣
      Truly agree with the 4 reason but should also have a discussion of the IMPORTANT FIFTH REASON... THAT BITCOIN IS HISTORICALLY INVOLVED IN SCAM!!!
      😂😝😛😜🤣
      There have been a lot of ACTUAL CASE that it has been involved with the owner running away with all the money and another case involved in some form of pump & dump scheme!!!
      There's no REGULATION & SECURITY that any bitcoin creator can easily get any people money then waste it on fancy partying!!!
      THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING IF A BITCOIN IS BEING USED TO STEAL DUMẞ PEOPLE'S MONEY!!!

  • @xixxloly7333
    @xixxloly7333 Год назад +18

    This aged like fine wine

    • @jermunitz3020
      @jermunitz3020 2 месяца назад +2

      I think you mean like milk!

  • @xanokothe
    @xanokothe 3 года назад +11

    It is very hard to trace, it has high liquidity, wide accepted, and used by criminals around the globe. Yes, I am talking about paper currency.

    • @sparcx86channel42
      @sparcx86channel42 3 года назад +1

      Yeah Hahahahahah

    • @nbkw48
      @nbkw48 3 года назад

      Don't be disingenuous. Who tf seriously fights for paper currency. What about digital fiat? Digital wallets holding various currencies?

  • @qidewen
    @qidewen 3 года назад +68

    I don't hodl Bitcoin either.

    • @Andriak2
      @Andriak2 3 года назад +3

      Dogecoin on the other hand...

    • @kipras7114
      @kipras7114 3 года назад +2

      @@Andriak2 Dogecoin is literally the worst coin that ever existed lmao

    • @Kenny-tl7ir
      @Kenny-tl7ir 3 года назад

      How old are you ?

    • @aienbalosaienbalos4186
      @aienbalosaienbalos4186 3 года назад

      @@kipras7114 you’re missing out

    • @jeanbonneau6711
      @jeanbonneau6711 3 года назад

      Great for you. The price is 30% higher now.

  • @jukesduck9363
    @jukesduck9363 Год назад +11

    Richard, your channel has been a godsend, and so enjoyable to watch as someone just getting into investment banking.
    Thank you!

  • @nelsonang
    @nelsonang Год назад +5

    all the negative comments aged really well…

  • @RedOneM
    @RedOneM 3 года назад +64

    Oh boy, can't wait for the video about GME

  • @gt0703
    @gt0703 3 года назад +16

    Bitcoin 101: Once you buy Bitcoin you join the marketing team - you will tell everyone else to buy and HODL it - that's the only way the price will go up, i.e. increase demand (market it to your friends and family) and limit supply (HODL). Never mind its just a string of characters which can't be used for anything except to give to someone else.

    • @robobrain10000
      @robobrain10000 3 года назад +3

      Ye. Just get out while you can. Being too greedy and expecting it to hit 200k is going to burn a lot of people. Once people start cashing out their BTC to buy their yachts and buildings, it should fall from there then. I can't see BTC reaching those prices, unless the yacht company starts accepting BTC and pays their employees in BTC and pays their taxes in BTC.

  • @cnavarrete1999
    @cnavarrete1999 3 года назад +19

    This is a guy who fully understands what investment really is

  • @MainstreamMoviegoer
    @MainstreamMoviegoer Год назад +19

    this aged really well 👌

    • @MC-nf3js
      @MC-nf3js Год назад +1

      For now. It will age badly soon.

    • @TemplarLove
      @TemplarLove Год назад

      @@MC-nf3js aged well, not badly

    • @tomelima4496
      @tomelima4496 Год назад +1

      @@MC-nf3js then you are proving his point: Bitcoin is an almost purely speculative asset that was wild, unpredictable swings.

    • @isaiahtraben1429
      @isaiahtraben1429 3 месяца назад

      Did it really though?

  • @zachhunt123
    @zachhunt123 3 года назад +7

    Funny how we determine a crypto currency's value by how much it's worth in governments' currencies, while it's simultaneously supposed to be replacing those currencies.
    I'll make a bold prediction: The US government will never adopt a crypto currency to replace fiat. Why would a government like the US financially cripple itself with an artificially scarce currency, when it already has the ability to create as much of its own currency (USD) as needed?

  • @MoritzAdler
    @MoritzAdler Год назад +69

    Man, I can't believe how well this video has aged. Well done and thanks for this!

    • @MrMan-dy7sg
      @MrMan-dy7sg Год назад +4

      What are you smoking? Video has aged fairly badly.

    • @MoritzAdler
      @MoritzAdler Год назад +9

      @@MrMan-dy7sg in what sense?

    • @Skipahhhh
      @Skipahhhh Год назад +15

      @@MrMan-dy7sg Bitcoin is down like 50% since this video came out.... How has this aged badly?

    • @AlexOnFinance
      @AlexOnFinance Год назад +2

      @@Skipahhhh This video ages well & badly depending on where you are along the BTC cycle (for as long as it lasts; if it lasts). Crypto is utterly speculative (likely 99%+ of the 21K+ coins will eventually go to 0 but some have genuine use cases). Certainly NOT for the faint of heart, and definitively NOT something anyone should go all in on; unless they like living in a cardboard box if they bet on the wrong one.

    • @justcommenting4981
      @justcommenting4981 Год назад +1

      @@MrMan-dy7sg cope harder

  • @kylecorbett3191
    @kylecorbett3191 2 года назад

    Thank you for all your videos! I love how you deliver the info and very calming to listen to.

  • @jaekyungseo5720
    @jaekyungseo5720 Год назад +5

    Lol this vid got so many downvotes by cryptobros. Yet it aged so well.

  • @alwynjohn-thesimpleinvesto4730
    @alwynjohn-thesimpleinvesto4730 3 года назад +4

    Keep up the grind, love your vids!!

  • @matthewmadden8943
    @matthewmadden8943 Год назад +5

    This vidoe aged like fine wine.🍷

    • @infinityfabric
      @infinityfabric Год назад

      Don't worry, the inflation is tRanSitoRy

  • @DamienTalksMoney
    @DamienTalksMoney 3 года назад +1

    Always enjoy hearing your perspective on things mate.

  • @robel1992
    @robel1992 2 года назад +6

    This is a very US centric view on cryptocurrencies - in Ethiopia when your Birr has lost half of it's purchasing power in 2-3 years BTC starts to look very nice.

    • @ivan200804
      @ivan200804 2 года назад

      They have a huge war in Ethiopia, there is no coverage in the US at least.

  • @whatisheartscont2be645
    @whatisheartscont2be645 Год назад +6

    If any business tries to tell me that BItcoin has a P/E ratio, I would run away.

  • @CalSticks
    @CalSticks 3 года назад +56

    I don’t mind at all if you want to republish this video every week. Really helps with the FOMO

    • @enriquellerena4779
      @enriquellerena4779 3 года назад +1

      You could also buy like 100$ of bitcoin more or less. If it goes up you got a free big mac and if it goes down it’s just 100$.

    • @CalSticks
      @CalSticks 3 года назад +4

      @@enriquellerena4779 You could also bet $100 on red and get a whole stack of burgers or lose $100.

    • @ph_hacker_d
      @ph_hacker_d 3 года назад +7

      @@CalSticks this assumes that bitcoin is nothing more than pure gambling/speculation. Multi billion dollar institutions/companies wouldn’t simply gamble with money on their balance sheets

    • @alexfosterroman
      @alexfosterroman 3 года назад +6

      It’s a risk but it has an a-Symmetrical upside.

    • @lacunaarchaea
      @lacunaarchaea 3 года назад +2

      @ph_d_hacker
      I mean, they literally do that all the time though. Banks, for example, do that all the time. That’s why they hire so many mathematicians and statisticians. They basically want to be like card counters in black jack. There’s still a lot of luck and speculation involved when making investments, but if you develop a solid method to make sure you turn a profit in the long term and you have enough capital then ideally it would all just be a matter of time. Hedge funds do the same thing. Many large corporations dabble in FOREX with their profits to try and maximize their purchasing power when and where they need to reinvest them. Unless you are the one building the company you have stock in, all investing is essentially gambling, but-at least in theory-there’s no “house” to rig the games in their favor. This is also why diversification is important: you don’t want to lose the whole pot on any one bet. Just like you don’t go in on any one dice roll or roulette spin.

  • @terryleong7
    @terryleong7 Год назад +4

    and today you are proven right

  • @devendrakumardave
    @devendrakumardave Год назад +3

    Aging like fine wine so far

  • @francescoalberga7627
    @francescoalberga7627 3 года назад +108

    Has he gotten more swole 👀👀👀👀💪

    • @cheder6
      @cheder6 3 года назад +16

      He is preparing for the crypto war

    • @KyngD469
      @KyngD469 3 года назад +7

      @@JavaSchoolBlues ok

    • @thomasmuller1850
      @thomasmuller1850 3 года назад +14

      He is mining Bitcoins physically.

    • @sudhanvakashyap297
      @sudhanvakashyap297 3 года назад

      @@JavaSchoolBlues ok

    • @osl5686
      @osl5686 3 года назад

      Powered by crypto

  • @josephgordon1269
    @josephgordon1269 2 года назад +31

    As a person new to investing I to thank you for your grounded, and logical perspective. 👍

  • @krzysztofmarynowski3870
    @krzysztofmarynowski3870 2 года назад +5

    Just 9 month and argument about inflation aged so bad

  • @Baranoeda
    @Baranoeda Год назад +2

    Most Plain Bagel videos seem to age well. Like fine vine. And remarkably, he never ask for "THE PLAIN BAGEL INVESTMENT COURSE, ON DISCOUNT ONLY TODAY", like he might have had if he called himself "Meet Bagel".

  • @akaxia9572
    @akaxia9572 3 года назад +12

    I invested in Bitcoin with a mindset that there is a 90% chance that I will not get my capital back

    • @akaxia9572
      @akaxia9572 3 года назад

      @CMS Roanoke they all closed sadly.. so i have no choice

    • @akaxia9572
      @akaxia9572 3 года назад

      @CMS Roanoke wkakwakwa you got my point bruh, Bitcoin is my religion right now xD

  • @Flying_Scorpion
    @Flying_Scorpion 3 года назад +12

    "Not Bill down the road who works at the mechanic shop, who's been watching a lot of Austrian economics RUclips videos lately." hahaha that was me 12 years ago :) (AND I was a lube technician at a Ford Dealership HAHAHAHA)

  • @junkman7426
    @junkman7426 3 года назад +18

    I am new to "investing" and started reading "The Intelligent Investor" several months ago. I was having trouble understanding quite a bit of it so I started looking for some RUclips help to get the basics of the basics. Your videos have been very helpful. Interestingly, your advice very often lines up with this book.

    • @Bowserfuzzi
      @Bowserfuzzi 3 года назад

      That book is wonderful. There is infinite wisdom inside!!

    • @Frankcapasso
      @Frankcapasso 3 года назад

      That is a great book.
      I feel it is worth its weight in gold. Stay with fundamentals.

    • @klppdc
      @klppdc 3 года назад +2

      It’s not a book for beginners. I would recommend Buffetology.

    • @DragonZombie2000
      @DragonZombie2000 2 года назад +2

      That book was useful 30 years ago. Have fun buying your 5:1 PE ratio stocks like Intel with 1 percent yearly dividends while avoiding Shopify and apple with their 30:1 ratio

    • @junkman7426
      @junkman7426 2 года назад

      @@DragonZombie2000 hahahaha, that so true.

  • @UnbearableYT
    @UnbearableYT 3 года назад +49

    "Only a sith deals in absolutes"
    That's an absolute...

    • @davidcurameng
      @davidcurameng 2 года назад

      When someone makes an absolute statement about an opinion absolute, this makes that specific someone dealing in an absolute. 🥴🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @mirzah.5821
    @mirzah.5821 3 года назад +7

    One two half two donut is back! :)
    Edit: That Sith remark had me spit out my coffee just fyi. :D

  • @DilupthaPerera
    @DilupthaPerera 3 года назад +25

    Bitcoin's P/E ratio?!
    Benjamin Graham would be turning in his grave...

    • @boombalabo
      @boombalabo 2 года назад +2

      Hook him up to a generator and maybe we could offset the energy consumption of all the bitcoin mining!

  • @gregpreteseille845
    @gregpreteseille845 3 года назад +1

    I love what you said at the end about being sold on something and ignoring it. Will definitely try to keep this in the back of my head

  • @terdsandwich1121
    @terdsandwich1121 Год назад +2

    When I first started investing I did not appreciate Plain bagels calm demeanor and lack of hype.. because I was an idiot who wanted to hear bullish things all the time. Now, i think plain bagel is 1 of top 3 finance channels on youtube

  • @liquid_shadow8690
    @liquid_shadow8690 Год назад +5

    Video aged like fine wine. I didn’t invest in crypto because of these reasons. I missed the chance to buy bitcoin around $100 and kicking myself. But glad i HODL on to my money.

  • @alexfosterroman
    @alexfosterroman 3 года назад +30

    I appreciate the measured approach to the asset. I would be curious to know your strategy for handling the likely dollar crisis. Especially for those that are not wealthy enough to hold real estate, fine art, etc. I think it’s easy to dismiss it as someone who understands assets and is part of the rich get richer side of the population.
    I also think comparing it to gold market cap is useful along with the stock to flow model. Saying it’s a short get rich quick speculative binge ignores its 12 year history. I guess time will tell but the longer it exists the better the network effect.

    • @blakemorgan8450
      @blakemorgan8450 3 года назад +8

      You can hold real estate with less than $50. Just buy a REIT. REITs are better than crypto in every measurable way as an inflation hedge. The debt of the REITs gets devalued as inflation rises, the property values increase, and rent increases which increases your distributions funded by cash flow.

    • @alanlee6676
      @alanlee6676 3 года назад +3

      Bitcoin is the only 100% fair asset. However fair doesn’t mean equal. The way bitcoin worked is they never had an initial purchase. Like with a home there is 2 ways to get a home you can buy it or build. It. Same with bitcoin. Yes you can buy it. And you can mine it. The people who supported the bitcoin network are rewarded with bitcoins plain and simple. Fair to everyone but not equal. To those who only view bitcoin as an invest are not thinking big picture.

    • @alexfosterroman
      @alexfosterroman 3 года назад +1

      @@blakemorgan8450 this is true good point 👍 I own REITS for that reason. Although admittedly the potential upside is way less than btc

    • @bigpep7987
      @bigpep7987 3 года назад +7

      @@alanlee6676 Just like every other dumb money individual in BTC, you've managed to write a paragraph without saying anything substantial at all about the topic at hand. Just "Bitcoin is future, bitcoin is everything"

    • @alanlee6676
      @alanlee6676 3 года назад +1

      @@bigpep7987 if you can’t see what’s going on maybe it’s a good think you don’t own any. There isn’t enough for everyone anyway.

  • @CaribbeanCryptoTips
    @CaribbeanCryptoTips Год назад +2

    I had to delete my old comments on this video...they were so cringe and biased. Glad I took a second take on this video.

  • @jns6971
    @jns6971 10 месяцев назад +3

    "When did people start caring so much about their ledgers?" 2008 ring any bells?
    Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin in 2009 as a direct response to the 2008 financial crisis.

  • @internetceo
    @internetceo 3 года назад +58

    There is just 1 incorrect amount of Satoshis to have: 0.

    • @BarnacleBoy42069
      @BarnacleBoy42069 3 года назад +4

      True. Lots of people hate on BTC but what's the harm in putting 10 bucks into it just to get a feel for it?

    • @markdonald6115
      @markdonald6115 3 года назад

      Hello mate, leave me your email address i have something that will interest you

    • @internetceo
      @internetceo 3 года назад +15

      @@markdonald6115 how@about.no :)

    • @conorm2524
      @conorm2524 3 года назад +11

      @@internetceo
      Can I interest you in some free malware?

  • @Ricardo-vm3jl
    @Ricardo-vm3jl Год назад +8

    This is aging very well.

  • @boogernosetv
    @boogernosetv 2 года назад

    Very interesting video! I like the way you deliver it!

  • @user-wk5yy5dx9k
    @user-wk5yy5dx9k Год назад +3

    just one year later...

  • @prasoongupta12
    @prasoongupta12 3 года назад +47

    Man I just want to say I really appreciate you giving all this valuable advice to financially illiterate people like us.
    May god bless you with double digit returns!

    • @arthurdiamondhands474
      @arthurdiamondhands474 3 года назад +1

      double digits! Ha! when you want to make some real money buy bitcoin

    • @Shvabicu
      @Shvabicu 3 года назад

      @@arthurdiamondhands474 no. Buy 0dte far otm options.

    • @swissarmyknight4306
      @swissarmyknight4306 Год назад

      @@arthurdiamondhands474 Comment aged so well. Double digits in the wrong direction.

  • @Tsakaman
    @Tsakaman 3 года назад +4

    Subscribed. Good analysis. From a portfolio perspective, a small allocation (in the 2-5% range max) to cryptos can work to deliver some returns (essentially as an "alternative" to alternative investments, which are usually difficult for retail investors to get to). Assuming of course one understands that there is no real fundamental driver for its price and are willing to accept wide swings in value.

  • @omzy24
    @omzy24 Год назад +2

    The integrity of this man 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 I’ve watched a few of his videos. This is a great channel!

  • @eduardolopes762
    @eduardolopes762 3 года назад +2

    Nice gains man, looking sharp!

  • @JackDuffley
    @JackDuffley 3 года назад +104

    My favorite absolute statement is "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

    • @1titans
      @1titans 3 года назад +1

      I'm Darth Titan

    • @jcbatz87
      @jcbatz87 3 года назад +2

      A statement like that is an absolute so I guess the jedi do too. Lol

  • @javagoblin1585
    @javagoblin1585 2 года назад +34

    Watching this video now, as BTC peaks at like 67k is refreshing.

    • @pokiblue5870
      @pokiblue5870 2 года назад +8

      This did not age very well…..at the time he posted this video bitcoin was at around 30k-32k…..he obviously doesnt understand bitcoin and the halvings on the long term.

    • @byroncanty8986
      @byroncanty8986 2 года назад +1

      @@pokiblue5870 guess he's just not investing in something he doesn't understand. he is all about stocks normally and I know lots of Stock crazy people getting 12% a year but think Bitcoin is a scale with 300% yearly

    • @DougalYoung
      @DougalYoung 2 года назад +1

      @@pokiblue5870 he is a stock analyst. I think he has a point. Also want to note I do invest in crypto and think that you have a point too.

    • @pokiblue5870
      @pokiblue5870 2 года назад

      @@byroncanty8986 investing in crypto is a one life opportunity. If ur not scared to see 20-50% drop then crypto is for you, because at the same time it can go up 20-50% 😎

  • @Reggie2fresh
    @Reggie2fresh 3 года назад +9

    Couple of points to make:
    1. The number of transactions bitcoin processes is essentially a fixed number so the fact bitcoin transactions haven't increased is not reflective on the utilization.
    2. You can lose your bitcoin if you forget your password; however, you can always hold your bitcoin on an exchange or third party, the same way you hold fiat currencies. The difference is bitcoin provides you with the opportunity to hold your money safely without a 3rd party.
    3. I agree bitcoin will probably never replace fiat currency altogether due to my first point. Only a certain amount of transactions can be made per second
    4. Bitcoin isn't the only cryptocurrency and a lot of the other cryptos have real functional use.
    Altogether, the economical side covered in this video is true but I do think the video creator is missing some fundamental knowledge from a technology standpoint. Anyways, always do your own research and come to your own conclusion.

  • @franciscocamarena7572
    @franciscocamarena7572 3 года назад +89

    I almost completely disagree but this was such a well made and honest video you have gained my like and subscribe!

  • @youtuber-ov6px
    @youtuber-ov6px 3 года назад +4

    It's easy to make pile on videos like most youtubers these days so I always like your perspective

  • @julioarcaiko
    @julioarcaiko 3 года назад +1

    Wonderful breakdown of the risks. I appreciate the fact that you’re very respectful with your point of view and don’t berate people who chose to invest. I actually think you would enjoy other Crypto projects considerably more than Bitcoin. Still speculative but the use case and potential is incredible.

  • @marcuscicero5033
    @marcuscicero5033 День назад +1

    Bitcoin was $33K USD at the time of this video. It's now $68K USD.

  • @ArtyCraftZ
    @ArtyCraftZ 3 года назад +8

    I have a feeling this video will age like a milk.

  • @HydrogenAlpha
    @HydrogenAlpha Год назад +4

    Like a fine wine, this has aged to perfection.

  • @profanddevplaygames
    @profanddevplaygames 3 года назад

    Appreciate the smart, focused videos on this channel that avoid hype. I have folks that keep trying to sell me on crypto, and I stay away for many of the reasons you mention.

  • @MikeNardiTV
    @MikeNardiTV 2 года назад +2

    Great video man! I’ve always been sceptical on crypto but couldn’t really articulate the feelings I was having about it. This video pretty much summed up my uneducated opinion lol, thank you!

  • @FusRoDah-Dovakin
    @FusRoDah-Dovakin 2 года назад +3

    Fast forward 1 yr… Why didn’t I watch this earlier?

    • @hazzdazz
      @hazzdazz 3 месяца назад

      how much did you lose?

  • @rodrigodavalos3072
    @rodrigodavalos3072 3 года назад +16

    Wow Richard's biceps seem bigger. Congrats

  • @andrewb2156
    @andrewb2156 Год назад +2

    How good did this video age!
    Thank you

  • @olugbemimoronfolu8157
    @olugbemimoronfolu8157 3 года назад +2

    i like you plain bagel - discovered you yesterday and I love it

  • @anderspekkarinen7244
    @anderspekkarinen7244 Год назад +3

    One year later bitcoin is 71% down.

  • @osquu
    @osquu 2 года назад +26

    "You shouldn't be determined about anything, but IF you had to be determined about something, it should be that BTC trends up with time." -Benjamin Cowen

  • @carmasterz9733
    @carmasterz9733 3 года назад

    Man, you are cool! Respect. Respect also for keeping your channel credible.

  • @codenameexoliby6020
    @codenameexoliby6020 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for being honest about the marketers trying to buy you out. Just confirms my suspicions that All these other financial channel youtubers are selling us something instead of being authentic like you. Thanks brother for not selling out

  • @AndrewChedid
    @AndrewChedid 3 года назад +8

    I hold bitcoin, and you are the first youtuber who actually have an objective reason about bitcoin. THANK YOU! It's a huge refresher to hear the logic side of bitcoin showing how and why it's still speculative investment

  • @calypso2nd
    @calypso2nd 2 года назад +5

    Wtf is it with the downvotes? I have >70% of my portfolio in cryptocurrency, and I love the fresh view from him. I'm a new subscriber, and will be a subscriber of his for a long time. I've been enjoying his other videos too, they're very informative. He just has a different view on cryptocurrency, that is all. Nothing more, nothing less. Keep up the good job, my friend!

    • @RyanPridgeon
      @RyanPridgeon 2 года назад

      People can tend to be butthurt bitches

    • @asteelcup859
      @asteelcup859 Год назад

      How's that 70% going for you now lol

    • @calypso2nd
      @calypso2nd Год назад

      @@asteelcup859 Been going great. I'm a damn good trader.

  • @D3cast
    @D3cast 3 года назад

    I think its a great video! I really liked it. Thank you!

  • @basselel-bizri989
    @basselel-bizri989 3 года назад

    I love your videos and advice!

  • @w00tse
    @w00tse 3 года назад +10

    The amount of people in the comments not getting the "hodl" reference in the title is shocking.

    • @w00tse
      @w00tse 3 года назад +1

      @Elias Håkansson It's a video about cryptocurrency. Hodl is just about the most pervasive meme in the bitcoin community. I just figured more people knew about it or would look it up instead of thinking he fucked up his title.

    • @pauls064
      @pauls064 3 года назад

      @Elias Håkansson I’d struggle to find any more common or widely understood meme word in the modern investment world than hodl... you’d have o be about 5 mins into investing, or recently woken from a cryogenic freeze to not know it...

    • @pauls064
      @pauls064 3 года назад

      @Elias Håkansson I’m an old guy - boomer. I think I started seeing it 4-5 years ago... not sure where though... it became common on all forms of social media in the last few years.

  • @PlasticInvesting
    @PlasticInvesting 3 года назад +4

    Looking at Modern Monetary Theory which is largely based upon the Phillips Curve as well as looking upon the Keynesian Aggregate Supply Model I believe that people are overestimating the threat of inflation. Whilst the Phillips Curve is not shown to always hold as there have been points in history where there has been both high unemployment and inflation, we have not seen this at the moment. Furthermore, at least interest rates are very low and good be easily used to combat inflation (But to what cost for Aggregate demand?).

  • @Ultraporing
    @Ultraporing 3 года назад

    Thanks for the great explanation! Recently a friend of mine kept asking if he should Invest in Bitcoin because he always saw those ads. Now I'm happy that I did tell him NO, and tried to dissuade him.
    Only time will tell if he heeded my advice, I sure hope so :/.
    Keep up the great work :)

  • @luvmefood
    @luvmefood 2 года назад +2

    This video did not get old. Last week's crypto crash just showed how volatile this thing is.

  • @vpiRY
    @vpiRY 3 года назад +24

    I love the suggestion that Central Bank activity is good. The Money GPS’s head would explode. 😆
    I agree with plain bagel on all points in this vid. Well said!

    • @venictos
      @venictos 3 года назад

      David and Plain Bagel need to collab my dude!!!

  • @deegegaming7911
    @deegegaming7911 3 года назад +26

    But do you hold bitcoin? Haha jk, love the content

  • @BURGATRON
    @BURGATRON 3 года назад

    Clear points that are very calmly explained. Great video.

  • @JeffMaughan7
    @JeffMaughan7 3 года назад

    Great video. The intrinsic value bit was fabulous. I had never heard that and it's correct. All we have is historical data. However I have seen that BTC returns since August 2010 to October 2017 show an annual return at 298%, with standard deviation of 253%. Crazy numbers! This means the Sharpe ratio is 1.176, so I'm putting in 1.3% of my play money into BTC. Such a small amount into my portfolio is safe, but the return goes up dramatically even with this little bit.

  • @RichardPrude
    @RichardPrude 3 года назад +30

    I’m a hardcore hodler but I get why other ppl don’t

    • @hopelessdecoy
      @hopelessdecoy 3 года назад +2

      I don't because I don't understand where it gets it's value, most people don't buy it to use it right now, they buy it to appreciate it's value.... To me it feels kind of like limited edition baseball cards, they are valuable because they are limited and since I can't use them in major stores or ecommerce they are about as useful as one. That is going to change someday but until then I understand how my stocks get their value and pay dividends so I will stick with what I know and make money with much more certainty that they won't crash out of no where when a gazillionaire sells their coins.

    • @seaslug7421
      @seaslug7421 3 года назад +5

      @@hopelessdecoy you do know where it gets its value. It just doesn't have a place in your portfolio.

    • @sparcx86channel42
      @sparcx86channel42 3 года назад

      Because they want to have fun

    • @RichardPrude
      @RichardPrude 3 года назад +5

      @@hopelessdecoy I see it as part of the digitization of everything like email is a digital of physical mail I see it as digital version of gold just like most places won’t accept gold but it’s still in many people’s portfolio, due to its scarcity, fungibility, and censorship resistance.

    • @PierreGleize
      @PierreGleize 3 года назад +13

      @@hopelessdecoy It gets its value from the fact it has a fixed and fully predictable monetary policy over a very long time horizon. Tomorrow, if the Fed decides to raise the interest rates, the stock market would tank. In 2020, the monetary expansion in the US has been above 20%. If any of the investments you made haven't beaten that, you are loosing value. Putting your money into Bitcoin is like putting your trust into predictable math (cryptography, game theory), and betting against a corrupt system that rewards anybody close to the Fed's money (banks, hedge funds, large corporations, ...). I do not know anybody who understand Bitcoin at a fundamental level who put less than 50% of their money into it. Once you see, you cannot unsee.