In Defense of the 7/10 Games | Asmongold Reacts
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Biggest problem with 7/10 being the default for bad games to not offend sponsors, is that there are good games that legitimately score a 7/10 that get lumped in with them.
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I feel like it's it's the 6/10 of movies. You can find good movies and total trash at that rating somehow. It's like people forget that 1-5 exist.
It's not that 7/10 is bad, it's that there are many 8, 9 or 10/10 games and not enough time to play them all. So why would I waste my time playing lower rated games.
And when I'm saying 8, 9, 10, I'm talking about my personal rating, can't trust game journalist sites that give 8 and 9 to CoD every year
Atomic Heart for example
This is why you try stuff for yourself instead of listening to these random opinions
Its not about the 7/10 games, its about the quadruple A "9/10" games which are just disguised 6/10 games but somehow end up higher than those 7/10 games...
Like assassin's creed mirage.
Believe AAAA gaming is an actual thing is an exercise of stupidity.
then they tell us it is worth premium price lol. me looking at all the CoD games after Black Ops 2.
Fact brother, the industry is controlled with political bias much like the music industry.
Too afraid to do anything new in case those precious profit margins don't beat last years.
This is why a lot of people are turning to indie devs now, thank god for open source software granting people the ability to make games.
Cyberpunk 2077
the problem is too many people rate 7/10 as average not as good.
to me 7/10 is averagely good if that makes sense. Like it was enjoyable, but nothing too special. Not Super memorable or wont be replaying it. 8s-9s or 10s have something really special to push them further up IMO either by very impctful and memorable story, or very fun repeatable gameplay, or unique mechanics etc. Does that make sense? lol I think its because all of us have that internal rating of 6/10 = passing grade because of school. Its quite hard to get away from that when the first 20-25 years of your life this idea has been present at all times.
I remember when Duke Nukem Forever got 5/10 and people said it's worst game ever made. Worst game would be a 1, but if you got anything below 7 you might as well get a 1.
gradeschool grading system ruined how everyone thinks about number ratings
Absolutely, 5/10 should be average but somehow 5/10 is considered bad
@@kefyness ya cause we know "everyone" means only us americans in that circumstance and thats all that matters right? there are no more ppl on the planet...
I feel like 7/10 games are often more down to taste. Sort of like tastes in women, I've been more attracted to some 7/10 girls than other 9/10 girls just because they're my style.
Chad
7/10 is the score equivalent to answering with "good" every time someone asks how you are.
Yo🤙 There's a top comment that suggests people not seeing 5 as average anymore. Having shared your opinion on what 7 subjectively equates to, I'd have to agree with you and them. It seems we've moved the bar higher now for what "average" should feel like. Which, of course, is okay seeing as having higher standards is good but it doesn't allow that which is average to be "averagely good", if that makes any sense.
@@storm1OGit’s the squeeze of people’s time combined with it being a PAID 5/10. 5/10 is the average, but you don’t want average when you spend money on something, you want it to outperform some random activity you could have done for free in entertainment quality. We can roughly entertain ourselves at a 5 without paying any money so it’s spitting in the customers face to offer 5 or less. This forced 6-10 or dogshit perspective is why f2p games are so good at attracting players. The scale gets widened substantially. If you’re curious you might even play a 3/10 game that costs you nothing to play.
Good comment 7/10
If 7 is good then what's decent. I think we gamers have got it down the rating system for a long ass time, with 7 being decent, 8 being good or very good 9 being great, and anywhere above is a personal rating that may include incredible, phenomenal, or even a masterpiece.
@@debroopsarkar4613 (10 + 0)/2 = 5
5 is decent. 5 is the definition of average. 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 are good. 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 are bad.
This is why the best form of a “review” is to just watch a streamer play the game for 15 min.
100%, gameplay is the best way to know if you'll like a game
When having to watch a streamer is the best way to find out if the game is for you or not, all it really means is that more and more trailers lately have failed to actually show any gameplay.
Back when watching streams or even looking up trailers was not feasible because internet was slow, I would read user reviews from GameFAQs, and specifically read the ones that rate the game lower than everyone else.
thats how i bought Inscryption, saw xqc playing it and not understanding shit and it made me want to play it lmao i loved it so much, such an interesting game.
@@HEADASSLOOKINGAHHH Inscryption was fantastic!
that's what I'll always do for the past 10 years before buying any games.
The Nemesis system is trademarked?? How can you do that?! It’s like making a game mechanic like jumping a trademark! Shouldn’t be legal at all!
Just another example of why the copyright system shouldn't exist.
I guess it's because it's so in depth similar to how while you can't copyright a simple dance but you can copywrite a dance if it's super complex and requires actual practice. Still stupid though.
The fun thing is that you can make a game that has basically the exact same system. Just change a small thing or 2 about it, call it something other than Nemesis, and you're good. It's just putting NPCs in a leadership hierarchy.
@@vulkegso if you came up with an original idea and made money off it youd let anyone and everyone make money off it without kicking you a dime? find that very hard to believe. theres flaws, many flaws, but that doesnt mean it shouldnt exist.
Nah, I can definitely see how it's trademarked. It isn't a mechanic it is a system designed specifically for a game. In face I always thought it weird when it got brought up when talking about other games.
Me speaking to my parents when I was in school: "If a 70 is so bad, why is it a passing grade?" lol
I sometimes enjoy 7/10 games more than games that get 9s or 10s. Last of Us is considered this masterpiece but it bored me. Deadly premonition has terrible reviews but i love it
Deadly Premonition is a fever dream that you never want to have again but loved it anyway.
I've been playing clicker games most of the year now, I'd rather play those than Starfield, Baldur's Gate or anything else lmao.
@@DerpyDerp254 Starfield right but Bg3 is legendary bro. Its an insult to use that game in a sentence with Starfield lol.
I can get that. The game was quite slow if you stealth a lot. My example of a game that is hailed as amazing but I don't like is Skyrim. To me Skyrim is a boring fucking piece of shit, the combat is so fucking bad. I tried to get into it 3 times but really the combat being boiled down to click, click, click is just too boring.
@@FeanorFinw3you are the reason this videos exist. “You shouldn’t enjoy starfield, but don’t say anything about my Bordum Gate 3” 😂😂😂
Thank god someone finally talked shit about the lock on shooting in GTA.
Wonder when people will finally start to realize this about elden ring...
@@cls880Lock on shooting in elden ring?
@@cls880It was fine in Elden Ring. Have you tried shooting without locking on? It's fucking trash.
@@uncleol Yes, it's even worse than GTA for ranged combat, and I'm no GTA fan either
The difference with Elden ring is the lock on isn’t the whole gameplay, there’s dodging and timing that are more interesting to learn than trying to aim the camera
The best anti-OCD game I've ever played (and I'm a massive OCD-type of gamer) is Project Zomboid.
I can hoard items in that game. I can shoot zombies until I ran out of ammo. I can build as much space of land as I want. I can level up ALL skills available in the game. I can collect cool and rare items. I can collect all types of cars. I can infinitely farm potatoes and make them bloom more. I can remove snow with snow shovels. I can bag a dead zombie corpse. I can throw molotovs everywhere I want and explode my generator accidentally. I can do all types of shit in that game.
But the second I died, I lose everything. No Steam Achievements gained for doing anything. No end goals. Just survive until you died.
10/10 best anti-OCD game.
As a Zomboid player, I agree. A lot of folks say that you're not playing the game right if you're not using 1500 realism mods and whatnot and I say people can play the game however the want and enjoy it. Don't need a Shrek VHS if they don't need it.
But the gameplay loop is simple; you start, you live and die. Almost like a longterm roguelike.
Which is why you should not trust mainstream reviewers who have to shit out their piss poor excuse of a review in a day
People who shill out for multimillion or multibillion dollar companies aren't actual gamers. They think they are but they aren't.
Or rather just play it themselves
0/10 = You should never play this, and it's frankly absurd that it's allowed to be distributed
1/10 = You should probably not play this. It's terrible.
2/10 = It's a terrible game, but you could get a laugh out of it
3/10 = It's pretty bad, but it has a few redeemable qualities.
4/10 = Below average
5/10 = Average
6/10 = Above Average
7/10 = Good.
8/10 = Great.
9/10 = Amazing.
10/10 = Masterpiece.
No
if a game is rated too high you should check why before buying
Why you have better descriptions of the lowest 3 numbers? That's weird :P
@@Travar1410
Probably because no product made to be sold to consumers should EVER be less than 4 outta 10. That's not just bad. That requires extenuating circumstances. Thus longer description.
no no no....
lets go backwards
10/10 is a really fucking good game
9/10 is good game
8/10 is ok
7/10 is horrible
6/10 is absolute garbage
1-5/10 you cant even fathom for some reason because
0/10 is something you would never play just by seeing the title alone... like barbie adventure time or something like that...
and all thats because humans assigning logical quality to number values is an absurd and down right impossibility to do...
like if any food place was allowed to keep its door open and all it needed to do was show its rating would you even step in its direction if it was rated 5/10 in its foods quality? even after someone points out that 5 means average quality? no you certainly would not because humans are inherently illogical....
5 and below is a waste of time. Only play those if you make a youtube video about it or something. For everyone else its a waste of money
Army of Two is a good example.
Loved that shit
Army of two was a 10/10
Asmon's recommendation of an "Anti-OCD" mode is brilliant. I have been wishing a game would have a feature like that for more than 10 years.
There’s one major flaw in the idea: your OCD will not allow you to turn on anti-OCD mode bc you’ll have OCD about missing the stuff anti-OCD removed
@14:00 The reason we constanstly 'rank' things is because competition in an inherent part of the human experience. We recognize patterns and compete to form more understandable structures and hierarchies in order to navigate the world easier.
The real problem is that people are using the 10 scale incorrectly. It's supposed to be a normal distribution on the bell curve, with most games falling between 4 and 6. Instead, we've moved that to most games being between 6 and 8. There is a positive bias to reviews, and I think it's skewed how we view a 'good' or 'bad' game.
Of the *male experience. Men rank things on a scale of 1-10. Women work on a scale of "Do I like? Yes/No" You'll never get women ranking men 1-10 in the same way men rank women lol
@@FreePigeonI’ve thought this for so long it’s so unbelievably true. Women are not objective about things at all. If they don’t personally like something then to them it’s terrible.
And i just sit here wondering when 7/10 became the "Average"... shouldnt it be... you know Above Average? Like its pretty close to 10/10 yet when people talk about 7/10 all i can hear is: "Its (below)-Average to me...."
It's when reviewers started getting blacklisted for 5/10 being average but seen as "harsh" so 7/10 became average and 10/10 stopped becoming flawless with alot of reviewers now re-addressing a perfect score as "they just want to reward it with 10/10" rather than giving a 10/10 because it's genre defining or era defining. It's all been messed up by reviewers and the reviewed wanting scores to mean what they want it to mean rather than the actual mathematical reason of using a number system.
Numerical reviews never made sense to me. Just say if it sucks, is meh, or you liked it.
Its because the american public school system has 70 to 79 as an average grade.
If you understand the american public school grading system, you'll understand where the american publics perception of video game review scores come from.
100 = A+ (Perfect)
90 to 99 = A (Excellent)
80 to 89 = B (above average)
70 to 79 = C (average)
65 to 69 = D (below average)
0 to 64 = F (Failure)
Because a 1 would be a barely functioning game. 5 is average but if you take every game that came out and took the average, it would be a pretty shit game that most people wouldn’t play. 7/10 is just on the edge of good
@@RaifSeverence most school systems around the world deem anything below 50% as a failure, making 7/10 the average between 5 - 10
I think what reviewers do is review a game like movies. They care a lot about story and characters than gameplay loop and mechanics. They also don't deduct points if the games are broken at launch.
wait, reviewers actually base their scores off of personal opinions, thinking we care about their persona? i thought reviewers gave scores based off of the marketing budget of the publishers, that trickled down to their department
"Critically mid comfort trash" is such a perfect description
For me that's Pokémon Drake or Taylor swift music fast food most RUclips videos
if a 3/10 game is a 10/10 for you, it is a 10/10 game. it doesnt matter what others think
Me and my friend spent a whole afternoon in wildlands stacking a vehicle monstrosity on the top of a mountain. A sign for those cartel druglords.
Shadow of War is worse because the character is extremely hard to control and due to double & tripple bindings it very often doesnt even do what you want.
E.g.
1. You want to run up a wall and dash jump to avoid arrows -> you have to hold spacebar to initiate the jump and then hammer spacebar to do the dashjumps. If you dont hold long enough, your character will just roll to the side and you might get meleed.
2. You are hanging on an object and an enemy is above you. You want to press E to heal up and fill the blue bar. Sadly the game doesnt targetlock the NPC -> you drop down when pressing E too early completely killing the flow.
Another problem is the weird prio system. E.g. You have a finisher ready ( F ) and you run towards an enemy and press F. Sometimes the enemy just starts his attack slightly earlier damaging you, causing you to die.
The problem basicly is: The fighting system/character control is worse & extremely frustrating compared to Shadow of Mordor. And it sadly is the only thing you do in the game.
I Played shadow of Mordor like crazy ( 61/74 Achievements ) but quitted Shadow of War after 5h ( yes i fkn tried, but its just not fun ).
I've played both those games first time this year and i can confirm that it takes a long while to get used to new steering and its not perfect even when you do get used to it.
Game sites use a scoring system that is between 7 to 10. Rarely do games get any lower. Partly because they don't review games that would get lower scores, or because they're bad at reviewing and inflate scores.
When I find a game average, that's a 5/10. Neither good nor bad. Does some things fine, other things not. Right in the middle. When I give a 5/10, that's not a bad score. Anything below 5, the bad outweighs the good. Anything above 5, the good outweighs the bad. Very few games even deserve close to a 9, and no game deserves a 10. Meanwhile a lot of games deserve 0-3 scores.
Forspoken has a metacritic of 64, but it has a bunch of 9-10 scores that skew that score way higher than it should be. Forspoken is a 2 at the very most, but the rating system being worried about giving anything less than a 7 fucks it up. You can never tell when a game that gets any score is actually deserving of that score, because some numbers are so inflated, while other numbers are so deflated, and you don't know which is which until you play the game yourself.
Reeee be
When I talk with people about games and give something a 4 - 6 a lot of the time I have to explain that some of my favorite games I think are a 6.
Forspoken is a 2? Yeah, you are WAY off on how games should be reviewed. Genuinely.
There is a massive difference between Forspoken and Gollum, or Forspoken and Kong: Skull Island.
Your system SUCKS.
@@FusionadeMore like his personal opinion, i think forspoken is a 4/10, with some people giving It really high grades for some reason, while a lot of other people crossed It as a disaster of a Game, yes, is bad, but there's a least some good ( though the bad outwheights It ) i wouldn't give It 0-2/10 like a lot of people do
@@jajasking9652 "Forspoken is a 2 at the very most" is an insane statement no matter which way you cut it. Absolutely insane. I literally don't own the game or care for it and only played the demo, but if you've ever experienced a true 2/10, you'd know the difference.
And you say "I wouldn't give it a 0-2/10 like a lot of people do", but you need to understand a lot of people don't actually. Metacritic user scores are full of 0/10 or 10/10 no in between for so many games and is not reliable way of seeing what people think about games. The fact is that nobody with a functioning brain would ever review that game with a 0-2/10.
Nobody.
They are putting it on the level of games that literally don't even function and corrupt your save data (reviewers couldn't finish Gollum because it kept resetting their save, THAT is a 2/10).
I'm ex military so yeah..lol
Those ghost recon games are awesome. There is not a single open world military game that exists or matches it. Games are beautiful and maps are huge. Nit just that, some of the DLC for both games are better than the base game. Plus, wildlands let you fight the predator in a special event.
The reason people hate ubisoft isn't because it is the "king of 7/10" games... it's because they've just re-released the same fucking game over and over again multiple times a year since far cry 3...
Agree and i can’t understand the people being so hype with modern ubisoft you already played this before. I lost faith with Assassin’s creed
This entire video is just bs to glaze AAAs that have been releasing the same open world, rpg-lite, crafting system games for the past 10 years.
A huge faulty premise that the majority of 7.0 games do anything original. I think hes confusing the indie and AA sector with the annual release AAA sector that can do no wrong on ign.
Ubisoft is the king of 5/10 games, 7 isn't mediocre.
That's basically all AAA games and popular indie games. The actual creative stuff is usually not very popular. But young folks or people with less game literacy don't realize this. They see the building mechanics in Tears of the Kingdom and think its innovative and cool. Whereas I know that those building mechanics are ripped from the entire genre of games like Besieged and Scrap Mechanic. (among many others). Doom 2016's push forwards gameplay and glory kills is basically straight up taken from Warhammer 40k Space Marine (2011)....which itself took those concepts form earlier titles. Monster Hunter World is super popular and loved despite it being the same game they've been releasing for over 15 years. And Monster Hunter Wilds will prolly be loved with the 20 year old gameplay style :D.
Let's be fair to ubisoft, it sells well.
I love jakey so much, glad you're watching more videos by him and continuing the conversation
He bugs me. Clearly thinks he’s funnier than he actually is. But when ppl find stupid as funny then yeah he’s a comedian
7/10 can be fun if you like the kind of game or genre. For example horror movies often have low/mid ratings, but if you like those movies youll still enjoy them.
I disagree. I did not enjoy the Jurassic World franchise one single bit.
Jurassic Park felt like a horror movie... a good horror movie franchise.
Then they let a redhead in steel high heels survive being chased by a T-Rex while wearing those same steel high heels and went full Greta Thunberg.
Care to take a guess at which part of the franchise made me stop going to the movie theaters?
@@dindunuphenwong "But if you like those movies you'll still enjoy them" You have already said you didn't like them and don't like the franchise, so you're actually agreeing with him and not making any point at all.
@@FreePigeon Incorrect. I never said I don't like the Jurassic Park franchise. I just don't like the 2nd half of the Jurassic Park franchise. Did you even read my comment?
Thats sorta true but to be honest, a bunch of reviewers are totally pretentious.
I've watched a bunch of "10/10" classics, I've also watched a lot of shit you'd see in a DvD pile in a Walmart. What I've learned is that you simply cannot trust reviewers. Many of these reviews (especially on IMDB) always seem to look too deep into things, talking about whatever metaphorical or deep psychological aspect of a film and rating the film based off of that. An example of this I'd say are the Matrix films, with many reviewers praising the first film to high heavens but also despising the second and third films for not being as "deep". Lets face it, the Matrix has always been kind of dumb, but in a good way because I love all three of them.
Same thing can also be said about video games. Don't trust the reviews and try it out for yourself.
Good old “Deathloop” with the 10/10 across all sorts of reviews was the most bizarre thing I’ve seen with reviews.
And I am certain the vast majority of people who read this completely forgot this game existed let alone all it’s perfect scores.
I tried it and it was so boring.
It is horrible. And saddest part the Arkane game studio is so good at making immersive sims. Prey 2017 is one of the best immersive sim sandbox for me. And the art / sound design os just amazing. And funny that most gaming journalists gave it mid reviews. Meanwhile mid deathloop is 10/10 because diversity and money from Bethesda
@@bekerashes hated the design of the enemies in Prey. Definitely a 7/10 for me.
I thought Deathloop was decent. It has a good game concept. 8/10 probably, and this from someone who doesn't like shooters.
@@zackang47318/10 decent ??????
Then 9/10 good
10/10 great
And ops, you runed out of grades for defining amazing and masterpiece
Is a 8/10 Game or is decent ? Decent is a 6/10 as far as i'm concern
8/10 is great
This guy is genuinely hilarious
jakey is the goat
"7/10 games can scratch a specific itch"
Would you say... they scratch a Niche Itch?
The Rev jumpscare
That's why I never look at scores in a videogame anymore. I mostly watch reviews or even Twitch streams for the gameplay and just decide if I might like it.
PS2 era was notoriously loaded with "7/10" games and my favorite is probably the Shinobi remake by Sega for that era.
careful streamers are paid to play the games and make them seem ore fun than they are.
First time doing the Predator dlc on wildlands was amazing imo.
7/10? more like 7/14.
24/7
I agree with having a Anti OCD mode. Once my completionist mode is triggered, I gotta find the things. What's even worse is if they tie very crazy good weapons or abilities to finding these Collectibles, then I feel like I have to find them in order to challenge the game on a harder difficulty
If a game has a story, it needs to be good. A game can be good without a story though.
"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." - john carmack
i find that for a lot of games, having the story be a bunch of quest markers in a trench coat is really all that you need, although this is obviously not universally true; rpgs are the quintessential example of a genre that requires a good story, because under the hood most of them are just the same dnd ruleset ported to a video game environment. nonetheless, it is generally true that good gameplay and bad story can make for a good game, while the inverse cannot. games are interactive by nature, and if interacting with a game isn't fun, the story would have been better off being told in a different medium.
@uzbekistanplaystaion4BIOScrek I'd actually argue against your claim that a game with bad gameplay but great story can't be a good game.
If a game can make me cry my eyes out with its story then to me it's a good game.
A good story is much more impactful than good gameplay. Good gameplay is only important while you're playing the game. But a good story sticks with you even when you aren't playing.
I think the best examples of this are all from 1 game director who is a bit infamous for forsaking gameplay as long as the story is good. Yoko taro, the creator of the NieR series and drakengard series.
All of his games until NieR:Automata were critically trashed for poor gameplay.
That was very true for his drakengard games and partially true for NieR gestalt.
But while those games didn't have a strong gameplay experience, their stories, characters and music were so unique and well crafted that they gained a cult following. 7 years after NieR gestalt the series was revitalized and brought more life than ever with the release of NieR:Automata.
Having played his games, I firmly believe a good story is far more important than good gameplay.
Good gameplay only applies to video games. Good story applies to any form of literature.
And while yoko taros games before NieR:Automata never had amazing gameplay, he did really capitalize on the gaming mediums unique aspects and made his games very "gamey". All kinds of different genres, camera angles, perspective changes (both literal and narrative) and an overall well done parody of the fantasy rpg genre.
So again, good gameplay is important of course, but story is more important (if your game is story driven) as it has the potential to impart an experience on the player that matters more than just simply being a fun time. Yoko taro actually mocked the idea that games are just distractions.
He believes they have potential to be something very important and impactful to players. In the end credits of NieR:Automata he asks the player "do you think games are just silly little things?". If you answer yes the credits roll like normal. If you answer no, the game let's you achieve the true ending and save the characters lives and erase your own save data as a sacrifice.
I always go to Steam Reviews, the people buying the game are the people who are LITERALLY invested in the game, the series and the genre. So if I'm thinking about buying an RTS game because I like RTS then it's highly likely that the people who leave the reviews also like RTS and have a better and broader context within the genre. Steam Reviews cater to Niche genre audiences better than Gaming Journalism does.
Sometimes I enjoy average games way more than what people consider masterpieces. Happens quite often actually 🤔
2:45 to be fair for Zelda, they were doing gliders with the Deku Leaf like 20 years ago.
7/10 games are pretty much 10/10 if they feel like catering to you, which is good
Great example of this for me was when I played Ghost Wire Tokyo. The story was absolutely horrendous (except the ending) but the gameplay was so riveting and me want to come back to it
10:12 I would love a mode like this. I have not been able to complete Final Fantasy Rebirth yet which is a game I looked forward to a lot but I just can’t stand leaving an area without seeing everything completed on the map
Did my boy just mention red faction 2? i love this man
Rly wish the video also recommended users to take off their rating biased goggles and see what they actually like about games 👌
*Shadowrun (Xbox 360)- most underrated multiplayer game of the past 2 decades*
As someone who hasn’t played Starfield and loved Skyrim/Oblivion, Fallout 3 and NV, and tried Fallout 4, I can comfortably say Bethesda has a track record of consistently pushing out some of the worst first iterations ever (Fallout 76, ESO, 1.0 Skyrim, FO4, Starfield aren’t exceptions to this)
Even Skyrim 1.0 was borderline unplayable dogshit looking back and mods that fixed and made it actually playable are what made it 9-11/10. Same goes for FO3 and NV - what made them so DAMNED good was the moddability of the game.
ESO and FO4 they started the trend of “nah bro you can’t mod anymore, at least not without us monetizing it” which is where Bethesda’s track record imo just went down the shitter when every game started becoming a forever beta test (largely because modders are A BIG resource of proper beta testing since they literally change the code themselves to make QoL and optimizations way faster than the developers could, and FOR FREE).
With this context, it’s pretty easy to see that Starfield wasn’t going to be an exception because the current developers seem completely out of touch with what made their past games amazing; monetization of every damn thing just sealed the deal why nobody has faith in their products anymore.
Or that’s how I see it anyway; it’s why I haven’t even given Starfield a glance despite having hundreds of hours in Elite Dangerous and No Man’s Sky - if I hear Starfield is good sure I’ll try it but with how it’s been looking so far it’s a hard pass.
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Satirical site "Hard Drive" had a great headline: "StarCraft voted best 7/10 game at Game Awards Show!" 😁
that guy was genuinely hilarious
Wait ... Pizz Hut is still in business...
not in as many places as it used to be
He’s talking bout the buffet
@@yallRweirdAF regardless of buffet or regular menu, PH is still gone from many places. Plenty of PH still have the buffet though
In asia...its famous
It isn't a sin for a game to have a bad story. It's a sin to have a bad story and being proud of it, pushing it at players like it's high literature and expecting an applause.
If Asmon and this guy met in real life it would be like that scene from Stepbrothers.
I started my love for gaming from whatever my older brother got his hands on. When I finally got to pick my own games, it started from proper RPGs and then went with action-RPGs and MMORPGs. Getting back to my roots at proper RPGs (Icewind Dale, NWN, Temple of Elemental Evil etc.) got excited for gaming again. Most of those have average ratings because of people who have low attention span or are just 😕. For action Fable 1 & 3, TES IV: Oblivion and Grim Dawn are wonderful games to play.
While I still sometimes search for games based on their *user* score, it really doesn't matter until I've seen the game played to determine if it's something for me.
The game that cemented this concept for teen me is The punisher ps2 game. It got 7/10 from gamestop back in the day and I still got it and loved it so much I replayed it on hard difficulty.
Most of the 10 out of 10 triple A games are around 7 out of 10 ironically enough
many open world games nowadays uses Ubisoft open world as a inspiration type of thing ... from far cry way in the day ubisoft makes solid open worlds to explore they dont require much effort but they are great sand box experiences ... look at Ghost of Tsushima it has exactly the same open world where you go from outpost to outpost and on the way pick up collectibles rather a solid 7 than a shitty 10
Numbers are easy to understand, and often hard to quantify.
The Rainbow Six Vegas 2 main menu music was a nice touch.
Honestly it took me three tries to get into starfield. The first two times I didn’t understand the level system so I didn’t use the points right away. I got to level 7 my second play realizing I should have used points as soon I got them and I didn’t understand the rules of building a ship properly. I stopped for like a year. Then I picked it up fully expecting what it was and what it isn’t. I really enjoy it now and started two weeks before their update that gives you a map. I’m enjoying it as much as Skyrim. I know it’s very flawed but I like the setting the atmosphere and the music. It is a solid 7/10 and it’s fun enough and shouldn’t be taken seriously. Ship building is fun even if you don’t really use them as much. It’s basically building your space rv house.
I'm going to share my below 7/10 game
Samurai Legend Musashi on PS2
The voice acting might be some cheese ( which in my opinion gives the game charm ). But the combat and countering to create new techniques is so much fun!
The GZA Liquid Swords mention was nice 👌
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Climbing on pipes and exhaust is not the same as a stamina bar that lets you scale on any surface but it was funny
Red Crucible Firestorm was the shit in middle school. I loved that game
A good story is not essential to a good game but a great story combined to the adequate world building and gameplay makes for a great game.
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragons Dogma and Kingdoms of Amalur all got an average rating of 7 upon release. And each of them, over time, ended up garnering critical praise. It’s a shame that the lack of interest in Kingdoms, resulted in not only several bankruptcies but the loss of a burgeoning studio and its employees.
No. Origin averaged 86 on metacritic (including 87 from ign and 85 from gamespot) and was seen as the best RPGs for years immediately on release.
Wildlands PvP (Ghost War) is a 10/10 in my opinion, if you don't take in consideration the small desyinc issues, but with the PvP mode coming out so late after the release of the game very few people even tried it.
What i find really funny is das 7 is considered "bad" in the videogames world. its the ONLY media space where this is the case. for example.. a 7/10 on IMDB for a movie is considered a really great film. i dont get it..
About Stories and games.. Gameplay is always the most important, yes.. but i also love games that have a certain focus on story.
But i think there is a huge difference in good game stories and good movie stories. good movie stories mainly are focused around good writing.
I think in games(since its a more immersive medium) its more about emotional impact. the story doesnt have to be super well written or super creative.
best example is the Final Fantasy series. when you break down the FF7 story its not that super well written. it has some plotholes and in the remake its even really confusing and absurd.. BUT you connect with the story much more than you could with a similar story in a movie. in a game it feels much more personal to you. you connect with the characters much more and you are much more emotional involved. thats why these stories stick with you and are important to you in a game. its not comparable to a movie.
This is the reason why many Tripple A videogame stories(especially stuff like UBISOFT games) feel so bland. they try to write a "hollywood story" which just feels like a bad copy past.. but whats even worse, they mix it with boring uninteresting bland, sometimes woke characters with no own identity. they often try to make these characters "hip" or "cool" for the current Zeitgeist.. but they fail to give them a true personality that connects with people. do you still know ANY character from the game Watch Dogs: Legion? any character from AC Mirage? most far cry games?... they spin so much story but lack the emotional connection. in compare.. you will forever remember the story of FF7 because of characters like cloud, Tifa, Aerith. The yakuza series stories go so deep and hard because of characters like kiryu and Majima.. The persona series storie is SO character driven.... Geralt in the witchter.. Arthur in RDR2.. 2B,9S,A2 in Nier Automata.. Good videogame stories work so well not necessarily because of the writing.. but the emotional connection to the characters. and THATS what most gamestudios dont understand.
Bro, Dying Light was 10/10
1-6 Complete garbage
7 Appeals to some
8 Appeals to most
9 Actually Art
10 Genre defining masterpiece, instant classic
What a minute, isn't that just a 5* system?
1 Complete garbage
2 Appeals to some
3 Appeals to most
4 Actually Art
5 Genre defining masterpiece, instant classic
IT IS!
0 unplayable/unwatchable/unreadable, pure pain
1 absolutely horrible
2 not quite the worst thing in the world
3 bad
4 not quite average
5 average
6 a bit above average
7 good
8 really good
9 one of the best, but not perfect
10 the best thing ever made and nothing will ever beat this, pure bliss
I actually like how Angry Joe scores games. 5 is mid. Anything below is below average and anything above is above average.
it's annoys me that people forget that what it means when scoring stuff out of 10
5/10 means mid not 7/10 that's good
lmao. RevSayDesu jumpscares
The rating should be more of "if you like this, this and this in a game, it is for you"
They always make sure to mention that in reviews though. Like when IGN gave Skull and Bones a 7, they made sure to mention if you just wanna be a pirate sinking other ships and whatnot, you’ll like it. It just isn’t AC4 Black Flag so don’t expect that.
I’m surprised Twitter hasn’t already become so delusional that they think 7 is actually a bigger number than 8
Interesting hearing Asmon say stories are the thing people care for the least in games. It may actually be true for most of the people. But it's completely the opposite for me, ever since I was a kid. Stories are no.1, music no.2 and gameplay no.3 for me. It was always like that for me.
Personally "one" the best example if numbers Ruining a game is Alien isolation. The critics ruined it on release so much so that by the time proper reviewers got around to it the devs already isbanded due to a terrible release because the critics sent FPS players into a horror game and didn't like the Alien was unkillable.
7/10 is the passing grade teachers give students who don't want angry parents at their next PTA meeting.
What did Jakey mumble at the end?
The big AAA games have to be 10/10, otherwise the game news sites won't be able to cover the small budget and independent games, and those are often the most interesting ones.
The actual problem is that 7/10 is what should be 5/10, passable games that you won’t think too much about but are alright to play for a while.
We’re essentially only using a fraction of the scale.
It goes like this with game ratings:
6/10 or lower = bad
7/10 normal
8/10 or higher = good
This rating ssstem is essentially useless, we should norm an okay experience at 5/10 so we can actually use more of the scale
I'm starting to realize I should probably go back to skipping cutscenes like I used to do as a kid, because some games are actually inherently better if you ignore the story completely and don't read anything ever.
a quick reminder, avarage isnt 7/10, avarage is 5/10
You can't say critics are out of their mind and irrelevant because they don't consider other aspects of a game that many players do when I and many others DO happen to care about story, characters, and quality of game play. Come on, dude. You get on your high horse about a point and then miss your own point to do the same thing you accused the critics of doing. The fact is, if you read the damn review and not just the number then you get a good picture of if the game is for you or not regardless of the number. Honestly, just get rid of the numbers and everyone would stop crying about the critics. Find a couple reviewers that like what you like and follow them, enough said.
The problem with what your take is that its smart and nuanced and the internet hates that.
For most people i think, if a AAA game isnt a 10/10 it usually gets dropped to like a 5/10 just on principle
"dude you have such an inmense world of numerous games you can play on that PC with all that space and you gonna use it to emulate Donkey Kong Country 2 AGAIN!!!?"
Yeah :)
@5:32 i mostly agree, except for Uncharted, Guilty pleasure.
Love hearing how great Shadow of War is as I'm playing it filling out my fortresses lol
The truth is any rankings especially newer ones will have a higher score just because scoring companies will get paid generously to pass a high score game to a mediocre game to boost sales. Then you have people that rate stuff on steam and other platforms a 9 or 10 because they liked it a lot when they don't understand what makes a game that score. They don't have an understanding of what to compare their favorite game to an actual good game so scores will be the best judge of how a game is played. Does call of duty deserve to be ranked above a 7 or an 8... no absolutely not. But people that only play that game will rate it a 9 or 10/10.
You can compare this with other things like tv shows or anime. Does attack on titan or bleach deserve to be ranked higher than JJK or Vinland Saga? Absolutely not! When you have a small pool to pick from you give generous rankings when its okay to see 1 show/game/anime and go I had fun but it felt like it lacked a lot of things that would make it better for me to enjoy it...6/10. At the end of the day you just have to remember people are dumb and don't trust their opinion on a topic because it is their opinion (some people sell their opinions too).
I love thelazypeon's ratings, with the pros and cons with short phrases preppin me for what the game is.
I hate the fact that 7/10 is considered a bad score. Now it feels like "okay games" dont exist. Everything is either an absolute masterpiece or an absolute garbage in the eyes of the gaming community.
The real problem with 7/10 game is that a lot of them are 4 or 5s not 7s. Reviewers do not have the balls to properly rate games because they may not get review copies in the future. This gives real 7/10s a bad name.
I'm glad everyone has started to notice nakeyjakey.
And I'm already going into most of these games with really low expectations. So if anything really does work or eventually looks cool in some type of sequence, I'm really happy beyond my massive low expectations and high disappointment
My favorite 7/10 games are SSX and Tony Hawk games.
7/10 games are great because every 7/10 could be a 10/10 to individuals with specific tastes.
This guy makes youtube videos as if he is still in 2007 and I am loving it
Problem is that there are too little time for games, people rely on number for guidance.
the reason i don't take 7/10s seriously is that we already have a bunch of bad 8s and 9s, and now I have to sift through the 7s too? get out of here. i'm going to replay system shock 2
this is definitely a top 3 instant subscribe moment, damn.
7/10 is the metric I use to decide whether it's worth playing/owning. Except for Sonic the Hedgehog of the 470 Xbox games I own, 7/10 is the minimum ranking they have.
It’s hilarious that Dunkey’s “Game Critics 1&2” videos made years ago touched a lot of subjects in this video and Asmon reacted to those Dunkey videos lol.