I second all the earlier comments, excellent video. One thing that you should probably have emphasised is that (AFAIK) the format of the backed-up files does not correspond 1:1 to that on the Synology. That is, if you backup to a local USB drive, and try to directly read the USB contents by attaching the drive to a PC, you cannot directly read the backed-up file contents. In other word, to restore, you always have to use Hyper Backup to restore the files. It also means that you cannot use Hyper Backup to migrate the files to another non-Synology NAS.
Frank, what a great video. Delivery is awesome, content is detailed and easy to understand. You are so well-spoken and have a calming nature to your voice. Great job! Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Keep up the good work!
Great video. The only thing I miss here is how to restore data from an external NAS after you had a fire for example, and you lost your NAS where you made your backups from. How do you access and restore the data from the external NAS then?
Thanks! If you follow these restore instructions, you'll just have to enter in the info for the destination NAS and then will be able to restore from it. The only difference is that in step two, you'll select "Restore from existing repositories" and then enter the info. www.wundertech.net/synology-hyper-backup/#22_Synology_Hyper_Backup_Restore_ConfigurationApplicationsEntire_Folders
Hi Frank, SO if I understand you correctly, if I back up my notes application and I need to restore it in the future all the notes I've created in that app will get restored as well correct? I've been using this app for about 2 weeks now because I wanted to start a journal and this app seemed like the best solution as nothing better seems to be available through Synology.
I haven't personally used the notes app or tested it in specific with the notes app, but theoretically, yes. It's a good idea to test though if possible.
I had recently factory reset my synology nas. I would like to restore from google drive but I'm not sure what to do during setup, do I select "download remote changes only" or "bidirectional," I am terrified of selecting bidirectional. Would that sync my empty drives (since it was factory reset) to google drive, thereby wiping my data?
How safe would you say that Synology’s encryption with password is? I’ve read many people encrypting their WD external drives via WD software, and getting locked out despite entering the correct password. Any chance of that happening here or what’s the reliability like?
Truthfully, I don't think that anyone can really say if it is/isn't entirely secure without having a third-party run a security audit. By design, without the encryption key/password, no one can access it - sadly, that's the best answer I can provide. I know it's not the most helpful and I apologize for that.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I can't progress with the selective restore, as I don't have the Hyper Backup Explorer option next to my Backup Now button. I only have a pull-down to edit & delete. I wonder if you know what I don't have these options? My last full backup (this a.m.) was successful.
I think I just answered my own question, sort-of. I was browsing around in File Explorer, and investigated my external back drive (where my backups are performed to) and realised that I could locate my accidentally-deleted file, and restore it to my desktop. It seems to be an alternative way to the Backup Explorer. I didn't realise before today that I can directly browse the contents of my backup drive, and selectively restore files that way.
Useful tutorial thank you, I'm struggling to understand the nuance of the rotation settings especially the custom retention settings & their implications on storage requirements. More detail on this would be great! Though I have found simply experimenting with the Custom Retention settings, including the Max Number of Kept Versions and flipping between the Month/Year timescale on the visualisation, is really useful for helping to understand it
In general, it's hard to get a true understanding because it's hard to estimate the storage space it'll actually need. For example, if you have a 1GB file that you delete off your NAS, if the Hyper Backup retention settings are set to keep it, it'll store the full 1GB because you might have to restore it at some point. I'd view it as a culmination of ALL data, present and recently deleted. When the retention finally hits its max, files previously deleted will slowly start to be removed.
Excellent Video. I want to back up all my photos including tags, albums and face recognition should my NAS go down. If I use Hyper Back up and restore to new drives on another NAS will all of the photos, tags, face recognitions and albums be restored? Are there specific settings I need to use for this?
Thanks! Do you mean in Synology Photos? If so, you'll have to select the Synology Photos Application and then I believe that it will, though I haven't personally tested it.
Do you have a video showing how to backup the whole Synology NAS, then wipeout the volumes on the Synology NAS, reconfigure the volumes for more space (since I put in two new bigger drives in a 4 bay NAS), then restore the whole NAS?
Hi. My Dropbox Hyper backup 1st run Suspends all the time. Then I have to resume. I adjusted to NAS hard drive hibernation to 5 hours but with no effect. I a doing 2 T of data. I also only selected smaller directories but Hyper backup still go to Suspended mode say every say 1 h or so. Please assist Tank you
I'm dying over here. Watched 3 pros go thru ALMOST every feature of hyper backup except the one I want now. I've used hyper backup to a ext drive. EVERYONE I've watched a video to eludes to being able to access files (when password encrypted) on a windows or mac based machine. I've hooked up the drive. I've looked all over the Synology site for a Win10 version of hyper backup. Now that I've gotten my file (encrypted so I can be mobile with them)... I want to be able to access the external HDD with my laptop when I need a file out in the field. Why does no one either say (if I'm incorrect) that you can not access your files from windows or mac if you encrypt them.... or give a tutorial on where to find program to install onto windows machine so I can unencrypt my files when I need something and I have ext HDD with me but am not at home with the NAS??????
I should have added more info. I have hyper backup explorer... but my computer doesn't see the ext HDD either natively or in the HBE interface. I did have HB do a check to make sure all files were copied and matched on the external HDD (that process took longer than copying the files themselves).
@@paulmarshall1596 What is the HDD formatted as? That's most likely your problem - nothing to do with Hyper Backup itself. The Explorer is actually pretty straightforward, so Windows not viewing the HDD is most likely the issue.
Thank you so much! I am new to NAS, and was wondering if it’s possible to have one of the bays act as backup for rest three in the same Synology NAS (instead of external HDD)? I am not worried about fire/theft but want to backup to protect from drive failures or online threats. Sorry for the stupid question 😅
Yes, you can technically do that by creating two storage pools/volumes. However, the data being on the same NAS is still a threat for things like ransomware, etc.
Great video. Thanks. Quick Question. Whenever I create a new task Admin is assigned as owner. This default Admin user has be de-activated. I go to File Station and right click task.hbk. Select Properties. Owner & Group. Tried changing owner from Admin to my admin user, check apply and saved. It does not change the owner. Any ideas?
I honestly haven't ever checked file permissions on archives, but does it work as expected? There's a chance that's just how it's set up, but if the archive is readable, that's the important part.
Great video and very informative as always! What would you recommend as a backup strategy for the docker containers? Losing them would be a nightmare and being able to restore them fully and quickly is a must. Thanks for your insights on this.
I would recommend backing up the docker folder (where all of the configurations exist) and ensuring that's kept safe. As long as it is, you can recreate the container with the content in that folder.
Good video as always. Just what i needed. I wonder if you could make a video on how to automatically to renew certificates with Synology in combination with Cloudflare. I don't know if you know the problem with cloudflare but if you use cloudflare it is difficult to renew letsencrypt certificates if you use the built in Nginx tool of your Synology NAS.
I will add this to my list! As far as the certificate renewals, I know using Cloudflare makes creating certificates difficult if you're using Cloudflare's proxy service. If you uncheck that, renew it, then recheck it, it should work as designed. With that said, I was always under the impression that it only had to be done for certificate creation and not renewals. I will look into it when I get some time!
great vid, I was just looking for such coverage recently :D one question - what happens if the target backup device (external HDD, another NAS etc...) available capacity is lower than needed? I understand there is no easy way to see/calculate storage needs for "compressed" backups with rotations (to choose appropriate device capacity), as it would by no means match the source folder/share size?
Thanks! I believe that you'll get an error inside of Hyper Backup informing you that the media doesn't have enough storage space. The issue is that I don't think the backup will inform you until it actually runs out of space.
So I am confused on how to use Hyper Backup to a remote NAS using VPN. Specifically Wireguard setup using Docker on Synology. Do you have any plans on creating a video like that? Like you have done already but then using OpenVPN instead of Wireguard?
I have a video/tutorial on how to back up a local NAS to a remote NAS, but not using WireGuard in Docker. I will check that out and see how well it works!
@@WunderTechTutorials I know! I watched the video and already was planning on setting it up just like you showed us until the ‘RUclips feed’ mentioned WireGuard videos (some of which were from you) and I started having doubts if openvpn was the correct choice. So an updated WireGuard version would be very much welcome!
Thanks. Just started my first BU. Question: this BU is going to an USB drive that has been attached to my PC and contains some data. Now that it is connected to the NAS and is the Hyper destination, will that existing data be erased? And is there a way to see all data on the USB drive, (ie File Explorer), giving a view of everything on the drive, not just the BU data?
If you didn't format the drive, then no, the data that was already there will still be there. With the USB drive hooked up to your NAS, open File Station (inside DSM) and you should be able to see the USB drive (I think it will be called usbshare1). You can then navigate through the USB drive and delete anything you might not need.
Hello, thank you very much for this great video! is it possible to make a backup, without necessarily having to follow 100% the synchronization process imposed by Hyper backup or Synology drive? Let me explain: I would like my main NAS to be able to back up files continuously to my backup NAS, so when I add a new folder, a new one, rename etc. on my Main NAS, the result is reflected automatically on the backup NAS. But on the other hand, when I delete a file / folder, I want this action not to be repeated on the backup NAS as well. The backup NAS is there in a way like a big host, which must take care only of keeping the files of the main NAS and not of making an identical copy. I hope to find some help from you, thank you!
Thanks! It sounds like Synology Drive ShareSync with the sync direction modified will do what you're looking for: www.wundertech.net/how-to-set-up-synology-drive-sharesync/
@@WunderTechTutorials "The idea is that the sync tool will keep the two folders identical, so that when information changes on one of the devices, it will automatically sync with the other." In my case I do not want the two files to be kept identically. I wish : 1) that the first NAS make continuous backups on the second NAS 2) that when I delete files from the first NAS, I can always find them on the second NAS. (The process of synchronizing the two nas must not have any effect on deletions)
@@BlooDOverDoseOFFICIEL I don't know of a way you can do that with Synology unfortunately. You can certainly use snapshots to retain the data on the destination NAS, but the continuous portion is where you're going to have problems. Generally, they run on timers with 5 minutes being the quickest.
Is it possible to configure Hyperbackup or Cloud Sync to use Amazon S3 Deep Glacier or it’s not possible ? Back in the days , this wasn’t possible. I would like to use Amazon S3 Glacier Deep archive to save my family pictures.
I haven't tried with S3 Deep Glacier, so I unfortunately can't say. However, I do use BackBlaze B2 which uses S3 so you might have some luck if you try.
@@WunderTechTutorials the cost of S3 glacier deep archive is like 1$/TB which is insane. One of the reason why I use my PC with Arqbackup to dump there my files.
You would follow the the same restore instructions, but you'd have to connect to the cloud storage location. When you select to restore, they have the option to connect to existing storage if needed.
@@WunderTechTutorials And if the backup is encrypted it will just prompt for the password and all the restore points will look like they did on the old Synology? There is nothing device specific linked to the old Synology? That is great news if not.
Can you do a video when you have a system crash ? For example how to you recover your data when you have only a hyper backup that is on an external drive and you have a windows computer and your nas had a ransomware attack ?
@@sylvainalain6637 I will add this to my list! I have a video coming out next week that very, very briefly shows the windows application, but I will try and do a more in-depth video soon. As for which type, exFAT will give you the best compatibility across operating systems.
@@WunderTechTutorials I guess that a Synology NAS cannot write into an external drive with a ntfs filesystem since it’s a not from a paid third party app like with paragon on a Mac.
I second all the earlier comments, excellent video.
One thing that you should probably have emphasised is that (AFAIK) the format of the backed-up files does not correspond 1:1 to that on the Synology. That is, if you backup to a local USB drive, and try to directly read the USB contents by attaching the drive to a PC, you cannot directly read the backed-up file contents. In other word, to restore, you always have to use Hyper Backup to restore the files. It also means that you cannot use Hyper Backup to migrate the files to another non-Synology NAS.
Thanks you so much . Very informative and easy to follow. Highly appreicated.
Frank, what a great video. Delivery is awesome, content is detailed and easy to understand. You are so well-spoken and have a calming nature to your voice. Great job! Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much, Tony! Really appreciate you watching!
Great video. The only thing I miss here is how to restore data from an external NAS after you had a fire for example, and you lost your NAS where you made your backups from. How do you access and restore the data from the external NAS then?
Thanks! If you follow these restore instructions, you'll just have to enter in the info for the destination NAS and then will be able to restore from it. The only difference is that in step two, you'll select "Restore from existing repositories" and then enter the info.
www.wundertech.net/synology-hyper-backup/#22_Synology_Hyper_Backup_Restore_ConfigurationApplicationsEntire_Folders
Hi Frank, SO if I understand you correctly, if I back up my notes application and I need to restore it in the future all the notes I've created in that app will get restored as well correct? I've been using this app for about 2 weeks now because I wanted to start a journal and this app seemed like the best solution as nothing better seems to be available through Synology.
I haven't personally used the notes app or tested it in specific with the notes app, but theoretically, yes. It's a good idea to test though if possible.
I had recently factory reset my synology nas. I would like to restore from google drive but I'm not sure what to do during setup, do I select "download remote changes only" or "bidirectional," I am terrified of selecting bidirectional. Would that sync my empty drives (since it was factory reset) to google drive, thereby wiping my data?
Great stuff thanks
As always, another superlative video.
Wundertech is in a league of his own, when it comes to easy to understand tutorials.
Thanks so much! I appreciate the kind words!
How safe would you say that Synology’s encryption with password is? I’ve read many people encrypting their WD external drives via WD software, and getting locked out despite entering the correct password. Any chance of that happening here or what’s the reliability like?
Truthfully, I don't think that anyone can really say if it is/isn't entirely secure without having a third-party run a security audit. By design, without the encryption key/password, no one can access it - sadly, that's the best answer I can provide. I know it's not the most helpful and I apologize for that.
Oh my god what an awesome video! So clear, so informative...wow, i absolutely loved it. Great job Frank!
Thanks so much! I appreciate you watching!
Great video, thanks for sharing. I can't progress with the selective restore, as I don't have the Hyper Backup Explorer option next to my Backup Now button. I only have a pull-down to edit & delete. I wonder if you know what I don't have these options? My last full backup (this a.m.) was successful.
I think I just answered my own question, sort-of. I was browsing around in File Explorer, and investigated my external back drive (where my backups are performed to) and realised that I could locate my accidentally-deleted file, and restore it to my desktop. It seems to be an alternative way to the Backup Explorer. I didn't realise before today that I can directly browse the contents of my backup drive, and selectively restore files that way.
You did a single version backup that's why
Useful tutorial thank you, I'm struggling to understand the nuance of the rotation settings especially the custom retention settings & their implications on storage requirements. More detail on this would be great! Though I have found simply experimenting with the Custom Retention settings, including the Max Number of Kept Versions and flipping between the Month/Year timescale on the visualisation, is really useful for helping to understand it
In general, it's hard to get a true understanding because it's hard to estimate the storage space it'll actually need. For example, if you have a 1GB file that you delete off your NAS, if the Hyper Backup retention settings are set to keep it, it'll store the full 1GB because you might have to restore it at some point.
I'd view it as a culmination of ALL data, present and recently deleted. When the retention finally hits its max, files previously deleted will slowly start to be removed.
Excellent Video. I want to back up all my photos including tags, albums and face recognition should my NAS go down. If I use Hyper Back up and restore to new drives on another NAS will all of the photos, tags, face recognitions and albums be restored? Are there specific settings I need to use for this?
Thanks! Do you mean in Synology Photos? If so, you'll have to select the Synology Photos Application and then I believe that it will, though I haven't personally tested it.
Do you have a video showing how to backup the whole Synology NAS, then wipeout the volumes on the Synology NAS, reconfigure the volumes for more space (since I put in two new bigger drives in a 4 bay NAS), then restore the whole NAS?
I do not, unfortunately. If you're just replacing drives, you can do them one by one, waiting for RAID rebuild in between.
Hi. My Dropbox Hyper backup 1st run Suspends all the time. Then I have to resume. I adjusted to NAS hard drive hibernation to 5 hours but with no effect. I a doing 2 T of data. I also only selected smaller directories but Hyper backup still go to Suspended mode say every say 1 h or so. Please assist Tank you
I'm not exactly sure why that's happening unfortunately. I use Backblaze B2 and the backup has never suspended.
@@WunderTechTutorials thank you
I'm dying over here. Watched 3 pros go thru ALMOST every feature of hyper backup except the one I want now. I've used hyper backup to a ext drive. EVERYONE I've watched a video to eludes to being able to access files (when password encrypted) on a windows or mac based machine. I've hooked up the drive. I've looked all over the Synology site for a Win10 version of hyper backup.
Now that I've gotten my file (encrypted so I can be mobile with them)... I want to be able to access the external HDD with my laptop when I need a file out in the field.
Why does no one either say (if I'm incorrect) that you can not access your files from windows or mac if you encrypt them.... or give a tutorial on where to find program to install onto windows machine so I can unencrypt my files when I need something and I have ext HDD with me but am not at home with the NAS??????
I should have added more info. I have hyper backup explorer... but my computer doesn't see the ext HDD either natively or in the HBE interface.
I did have HB do a check to make sure all files were copied and matched on the external HDD (that process took longer than copying the files themselves).
@@paulmarshall1596 What is the HDD formatted as? That's most likely your problem - nothing to do with Hyper Backup itself. The Explorer is actually pretty straightforward, so Windows not viewing the HDD is most likely the issue.
Thank you so much! I am new to NAS, and was wondering if it’s possible to have one of the bays act as backup for rest three in the same Synology NAS (instead of external HDD)? I am not worried about fire/theft but want to backup to protect from drive failures or online threats. Sorry for the stupid question 😅
Yes, you can technically do that by creating two storage pools/volumes. However, the data being on the same NAS is still a threat for things like ransomware, etc.
@@WunderTechTutorials Thank you! I will stick with external HDD then 😊
Nice Tutorial. Thank you!
Great video. Thanks.
Quick Question.
Whenever I create a new task Admin is assigned as owner. This default Admin user has be de-activated. I go to File Station and right click task.hbk. Select Properties. Owner & Group. Tried changing owner from Admin to my admin user, check apply and saved. It does not change the owner. Any ideas?
I honestly haven't ever checked file permissions on archives, but does it work as expected? There's a chance that's just how it's set up, but if the archive is readable, that's the important part.
thanks a lot for your video, was really helpful!
Great video and very informative as always! What would you recommend as a backup strategy for the docker containers? Losing them would be a nightmare and being able to restore them fully and quickly is a must. Thanks for your insights on this.
I would recommend backing up the docker folder (where all of the configurations exist) and ensuring that's kept safe. As long as it is, you can recreate the container with the content in that folder.
Good video as always. Just what i needed. I wonder if you could make a video on how to automatically to renew certificates with Synology in combination with Cloudflare. I don't know if you know the problem with cloudflare but if you use cloudflare it is difficult to renew letsencrypt certificates if you use the built in Nginx tool of your Synology NAS.
I will add this to my list! As far as the certificate renewals, I know using Cloudflare makes creating certificates difficult if you're using Cloudflare's proxy service. If you uncheck that, renew it, then recheck it, it should work as designed. With that said, I was always under the impression that it only had to be done for certificate creation and not renewals. I will look into it when I get some time!
As an intern who's having to self research everything this video is a god send. Thanks WunderTech, your channel is amazing!
Glad that it's helped, thank you for watching!
Easy sub. Thank you very much for your work!
Great stuff ser. Thank you for putting this together for us.
great video, very explicit. cheers!!
great vid, I was just looking for such coverage recently :D
one question - what happens if the target backup device (external HDD, another NAS etc...) available capacity is lower than needed?
I understand there is no easy way to see/calculate storage needs for "compressed" backups with rotations (to choose appropriate device capacity), as it would by no means match the source folder/share size?
Thanks! I believe that you'll get an error inside of Hyper Backup informing you that the media doesn't have enough storage space. The issue is that I don't think the backup will inform you until it actually runs out of space.
@@WunderTechTutorials hmm I guess I'll try some tests then :D
So I am confused on how to use Hyper Backup to a remote NAS using VPN. Specifically Wireguard setup using Docker on Synology. Do you have any plans on creating a video like that? Like you have done already but then using OpenVPN instead of Wireguard?
I have a video/tutorial on how to back up a local NAS to a remote NAS, but not using WireGuard in Docker. I will check that out and see how well it works!
@@WunderTechTutorials I know! I watched the video and already was planning on setting it up just like you showed us until the ‘RUclips feed’ mentioned WireGuard videos (some of which were from you) and I started having doubts if openvpn was the correct choice. So an updated WireGuard version would be very much welcome!
Thanks. Just started my first BU. Question: this BU is going to an USB drive that has been attached to my PC and contains some data. Now that it is connected to the NAS and is the Hyper destination, will that existing data be erased? And is there a way to see all data on the USB drive, (ie File Explorer), giving a view of everything on the drive, not just the BU data?
If you didn't format the drive, then no, the data that was already there will still be there. With the USB drive hooked up to your NAS, open File Station (inside DSM) and you should be able to see the USB drive (I think it will be called usbshare1). You can then navigate through the USB drive and delete anything you might not need.
@@WunderTechTutorials Ah. Guess I tried too soon. Several TB to BU so it will take a while.
Hello, thank you very much for this great video! is it possible to make a backup, without necessarily having to follow 100% the synchronization process imposed by Hyper backup or Synology drive? Let me explain: I would like my main NAS to be able to back up files continuously to my backup NAS, so when I add a new folder, a new one, rename etc. on my Main NAS, the result is reflected automatically on the backup NAS. But on the other hand, when I delete a file / folder, I want this action not to be repeated on the backup NAS as well. The backup NAS is there in a way like a big host, which must take care only of keeping the files of the main NAS and not of making an identical copy. I hope to find some help from you, thank you!
Thanks! It sounds like Synology Drive ShareSync with the sync direction modified will do what you're looking for: www.wundertech.net/how-to-set-up-synology-drive-sharesync/
@@WunderTechTutorials "The idea is that the sync tool will keep the two folders identical, so that when information changes on one of the devices, it will automatically sync with the other."
In my case I do not want the two files to be kept identically. I wish :
1) that the first NAS make continuous backups on the second NAS
2) that when I delete files from the first NAS, I can always find them on the second NAS. (The process of synchronizing the two nas must not have any effect on deletions)
Help me please !
@@BlooDOverDoseOFFICIEL I don't know of a way you can do that with Synology unfortunately. You can certainly use snapshots to retain the data on the destination NAS, but the continuous portion is where you're going to have problems. Generally, they run on timers with 5 minutes being the quickest.
Is it possible to configure Hyperbackup or Cloud Sync to use Amazon S3 Deep Glacier or it’s not possible ? Back in the days , this wasn’t possible. I would like to use Amazon S3 Glacier Deep archive to save my family pictures.
I haven't tried with S3 Deep Glacier, so I unfortunately can't say. However, I do use BackBlaze B2 which uses S3 so you might have some luck if you try.
@@WunderTechTutorials the cost of S3 glacier deep archive is like 1$/TB which is insane. One of the reason why I use my PC with Arqbackup to dump there my files.
@@sylvainalain6637 I need to check it out then - that's super cheap!
HE DOESN'T MISS!! Another easy to follow tutorial. Now to start using Hyper Backup!
I appreciate it, thanks a lot for watching!
You have gift for simplifying complex concepts.
Thanks for the kind words!
You're the GOAT of tech videos. Clear, concise and easy to follow. Great stuff
Haha, I wish I felt the same. Thanks a lot though, I really appreciate it!
How would you restore if your Synology does catch on fire, and you need to restore to a new Synology from a Cloud Storage location?
You would follow the the same restore instructions, but you'd have to connect to the cloud storage location. When you select to restore, they have the option to connect to existing storage if needed.
@@WunderTechTutorials And if the backup is encrypted it will just prompt for the password and all the restore points will look like they did on the old Synology? There is nothing device specific linked to the old Synology? That is great news if not.
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When using an external drive as a destination , which file system do you need to use on that external drive ? Fat32 , extfat or even ntfs ?
Can you do a video when you have a system crash ? For example how to you recover your data when you have only a hyper backup that is on an external drive and you have a windows computer and your nas had a ransomware attack ?
@@sylvainalain6637 I will add this to my list! I have a video coming out next week that very, very briefly shows the windows application, but I will try and do a more in-depth video soon. As for which type, exFAT will give you the best compatibility across operating systems.
@@WunderTechTutorials I guess that a Synology NAS cannot write into an external drive with a ntfs filesystem since it’s a not from a paid third party app like with paragon on a Mac.
Another great video. Thank you.
I'll second that.