Black Widow Spray Gun *6 month reveiw*
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2020
- I used my Black Widow well over 30 times in the 6 months i've had it. With proper cleaning this thing still has what it takes to pull off a great paint job.
@harborfreight 
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Keep making videos and don’t lose your inspiration! Good stuff
I know what the chain hanging at the regulator is used for??? Not many know about that'.great vid
What for?
@@cygnus1965 in case the regulator want to separate from the tank it won't fly into your face.🤕
It's easy to hang parts from a plastic chain to paint
I realize it's kind of randomly asking but do anyone know of a good website to stream newly released movies online ?
the thing I like is that you don't judge the Black widow spray gun you don't judge harbor freight you have an honest opinion and thank you for your honest opinion
People spend too much time judging, working and using the tools is what's important.
i was tempted to buy this spray gun so many times.. and you're video really helps. Thanks
Looking good, we appreciate ya sharing your experiences ... good or bad ;) honesty is what we all need... keep it up
The sound that gun makes is just awesome!!
Glad I found this channel. Great content and love to see your not scared to show mistakes, that’s where we learn right?
Beautiful job lots of knowledge big respect
I appreciate that you show your actual technique and skill for laying down paint. A lot of the guys and gals do a time lapse and speed it up.
Being able to see your cadence and see how you’re adjusting your hand = education.
I'm glad somebody did a working review of this gun and not just a first time use of it. Looks good and it laid down the CC smooth.
I'm trying to learn to paint cars so videos like this help. Subscribed!
Good job bro! Keep making videos you will do GREAT.!
Love your vids man! Always waiting for the next one.Thanks
Thanks for the support, give me a video idea!
Great looking job for what it is,well done
we have to protect this dude at all cost! hahaha Damn! Nice Job
Great videos brother. Good vibes, awesome content. You got a lifetime subscriber from me. Also it would have been awesome to see the car fully buffed and polished out in the sun as a final ending to the video.
Bro that color is awesome! Looks amazing!
Good to show fails as well as perfect jobs. Good finish, and now we know to follow the manufacturers guidelines. :)
Glad to see those that post vids that aren’t perfect so others can learn from mistakes. Adds value to the video. Anyone can post over produced videos that hide issues. Every professional has sub par results occasionally. Thanks for posting it.
I get so mad 🤣🤣🤣
Based on serve rap review, including your, I picked up this gun about a week ago. Being a complete novice I took on a Harley respray project and intend to use the black widow as my clear coat gun. I may have bit off more than I can chew since he also wants some custom airbrush work as well. RUclips is the best place on the inter-webs to learn from. With that being said, keep doing what you do brother. These videos gave me the confidence to take on this project!
That should say... based on several reviews 😁
Good luck. You got this. Be patient, learn flash times and ne clean it will turn or fine
@@Strankon I'm glad you told that clown off
very nice. Even if the panel doesn't match exactly the car looks WAY better!
Good job,it looks great!
very nice ! Kar. impressive work.
I bought this model, HVLP plus an air regulator and compressor the other day to shoot my front bumper on a 2010 camaro ss. Primer, base and clear shot phenomenal. Bumper came out flawless.
Did you post it to the Gram?
Kar Kraftsman I have Not, but will be doing that soon! @sshuri_5g
I do love the way this thing sounds when spraying!
Would the HF 27 gallon Fortress likely have enough air for using this gun?
@@theonekninek75230k kinda doubt it. What HP is it?
@@KarKraftsman 1.6
@@theonekninek75230k i have the 20g from HF i painted a few parts had no problem with the HF 139 spray gun HTE but will have to wait a few for it to catch up will not paint a full car but can paint two parts at once no problem and for $220 can't beat it and i use air tools daly
I really appreciate your video on the black widow gun. I purchased one today just to see how it will do, I have the 3m accuspray but the only downside is it doesn't have the wide fan like the widow. I like to see more of your videos on the widow
The color is awesome ...and one more subscriber....thanks for the headlight trick...
Personally I think you hit it out of the park, it looks great.
Nice video brother keep them coming
Looks real good keep the vids coming.
You gave me the idea to make a channel, thanks for paving the way.
That gun will probably do pretty well on my custom guitars and basses. Nice work!
Painting a guitar is a different cup of tea. U need a snap on mini gun. Get with your local snap on representative. They will even come to u sir. I did my dad's 67 guitar with one.
Keep spraying bro dont stop!!!
Great vid !
I'm a body tech that used do combo back in the 80's and 90's, but now reverting back to doing a lot more painting again (not as much as you though). don't remember my eyes burning back then like they do now (maybe the changing of paint formula over time). Thanks for responding back so quickly!
Very Nice job men,iam ur new fan,from México city 👍
Thanks buddy. Let me know what you want to see in my videos.
awesome video! excellent example of proper safety equipment (isocyanites are dangerous)!!!; a fine gun being supplied with obvious adequate compressor; color that shows up and sprays beautiful. oh and a proper paint booth!' sprays wet but is thin enough and dries out really perfect example for me;
Thank you friend, sounds like you know what you doing already, hopefully you saw something to take away from my video
@@KarKraftsman mainly to try to spray wet but thin, I'm still learning and spray dry or sometimes too heavy.
@@rob12449 chase the wet around, thats what I tell people. you have to wait the flash time and even strokes.
Great video
That Bermuda Blue IS a cool color! It normally looks like a nice aquamarine teal to blue, a bit purplish at certain angles in dimmer light, and almost black from a distance in very dim light. I think GM dropped it in '07 and I don't know why. They always comment on it when going through the car wash and even my GM loathing brother likes the color on my '06 Avalanche. The difference in hue between the hood and fender that you were concerned with actually will show up less in bright sun. As the sun reflects off all the metallic/pearl it hides those inconsistencies, they'll show up more in shade.
It looked dead nuts outside lol
Awesome, came out killer , other than the coverage part, btw harbor freight has the 1.5 tip out for this gun now might be a good one to pick up
Have you picked one up yet? 1.5 sounds PERFECT for sealers
Kar Kraftsman not yet , cuz I’m thinking of doing a give a way for my 1k subs but might be something I would consider
@@Mechaniclyfe i'll subscribe right now
As a painter I find it fascinating how everyone spray base coat at different psi I only spray 18 at max psi. And as low as 10 psi . without flaw. But good job keep up the channel
Nice work mate, would you say the Black Widow gun is efficient when it comes to material usage ? How much colour and clear did you use on this job ? Keep up the great content liked and subscribed 👍🏼
Spraying above 30lbs like I was at does put a lot into the air, that's where this thing likes to stay 25 - 35 lbs.
20 oz of Chomax base coat (thinned) put 3 coats on this and I was right on the money when I ordered the paint.
Clear coat was the 2 coats and in my 3m cup I just go to 8 on the 4:1 for each coat.
Thanks for the support!
Nice Paint style and technique my dude! The color seemed to match better after clear coating to me. It seemed to have a similar darker color shift on the passenger side fender as well. Saved by the flip flop paint. LOL
Hey big guy I don't know how good that gun is but I know you're a hell of a good at what you do brother I know people that got big money guns that can't do half the job you've done with this harbor freight gun you're pretty badass bro but I got one question did you spray clear on the lens of the car where the lights are too will it turn colors or will that stop it from turning colors just something I was wondering but keep doing what you doing brother I like your work👍👌
Yes I cleared over the headlights. If you sand off the UV corroded plastic and paint them they turn out great. Thanks for the compliments and stay tuned for more
Hello I like the way the gun sprays I have an Black Widow HVLP and I would like to see you use a HVLP with a 1.4 needle.
I notice most people really get insulting if you use 1k materials instead of the latest/greatest. Lakeside Auto body channel shows using acrylic lacquer primer, single stage, all the things the experts say won't work, will fail, is outdated, ect. These materials used to be the standard, and for us guys doing our cars at home, with proper prep, i feel you can get good results on a budget.
Nice look at the Widow in action.👍
So very true. I find that some are even just jealous that one is doing something their not and just want to be mad. It all works and I've done some great work with spray cans. The work part is what gets most ppl
Wonderful sharing
I just purchased that same spray gun wish me luck!
arturo Izaguirre great gun. PSI is a little finicky but it lays epoxy, base and clear very well.
That was very smooth spraying. I have a question, what is the reason of seeing bubbles? I sprayed like 10 coats of gloss polyurethane on a flat wood table and bubbles keep coming up? The temperature inside my garage is good 80f, is it the guns that I have or maybe i have to adjust the guns? I put the air pressure to 10, 20, 30, 40, 50psi and bubble keep coming up 😮
What is your pps cup set up and adapter?...nice work!
I just picked up the Black Widow to give it a try. I usually use my Devilbiss Pro Lite but trying this Black Widow for clear coat. I seem to be getting heavy orange peel spraying at 30PSI. Did you say you sprayed this car at 35 PSI? Any feedback is appreciated. Great video.
Just picked this up today, gonna be spraying my car for the first time. At 35psi for the clear are you running fan and fluid wide open? Watched a few other reviews of the Black Widow and everyone seems to have consensus of spraying clear at 35psi fan and fluid wide open, so just curious what gun settings you were running. Thanks m8 and awesome videos.
35 is a bit high i think. If you get light in the middle of the fan you have too much pressure. I like to set my trigger pull just about at the end and you can tune it to a speed you want to move. I also adjust my fan size for what I'm painting, if its just a bumper I go smaller to maximize transfer efficiency, body panels ill go all the way. Good luck
That clearcoat looks so wet 😎👍
i bought one a couple months ago and love it too! Question...what face mask are you using? does it fog up and keep your eyes from tearing? I am looking for one. Thanks.
Amazon baby.
I'd like to make an Amazon store so I can make some on the back end but I find soooo much stuff on there and Ali Expense all the crappy sites.
But Amazon, and no, the ones I have cover everything and really let you get into metal work with confidence and painting made easier. If I had my choice I'd always get this one but I have 3M one that I like too.
Nice 👍🏼
Cool video, I wouldve used black sealer 1st with such a transparent color though
Nice🎉
Nice job man! Hoping I get similar results. Some days are good and some days aren't so good if you know what I mean? haha Take it easy. -Glen
Wow it really puts it down nice and flat no peal here but in a week or so does it show a little orange peal as the clear shrinks.
It does shrink a bit. I've learned to put in as little thinner as possible for best results.
I have the widow 1.3 and 1.7. $300 total for both. What do you think of the trigger in tight areas? Kind of similar to a sata. Devilbiss has softer trigger. Great channel. Thanks
Thanks buddy.
I fiddled with this thing in this video. I went from one finger pulls ☝️ too 2 finger pulls ✌🤟 and I never felt really comfortable. I can use both hands pretty well and kind of like a trigger further away.
The body is very Sata, I would compare the spray experience to my Pro Lite or a Binks.
looks great!! by any chance is that color mystic teal?
Pacific blue
I just got the black window spray gun, give me a little more conference in my buy lol
Used this gun today, first time painting ever, and it came out pretty good but I do have decent orange peel. Did this in my garage, the white cloud was everywhere even with fans blowing out, don’t know how to avoid the orange peel in my clear. I did sand 1500 before last coat of base. 28 psi, and what were you other setting? Thanks.
Use the acrylic sanding block start with 1500 grit sandpaper up to 5000 grit. The acrylic block will get out all orange peel and dust mark💯💯💯💯💪💪💪💪
Make some vid's on how ya go about trick painting :)
Guess what? I sprayed micro flake with intercoat, silvwr base with candy red and clear with the bw hte and it did all great!
Hi do u remember color codes for the base coats colors?
Good stuff. What size fluid tip does that black widow come with?
There is a 1.3 and a 1.7 the bigger is for thicker paints.
What is the process for painting a car? 1. prime 2. sealer 3. base coat 4. clear coat. Thank you for your time.
What's a good gun setting on the black widow for clear coat and the fluid and the fan
Did you like or dislike the black widow? Does it come with a 1.4 or just a 1.3? What was you opinion of the fan and the whole gun ? Is it worth 200 dollars?
What are your gun settings for clear coat
How different are the automotive paints from Lacquer based paints that i use for spraying kitchen cabinets. I spray alot of conversion varnishes and other lacquer base paints and clear coats on a regular bases.
Not much different at all. I'd say you're half way there and should just learn the paints you are working with
Paint job looks awesome do you still have the paint code for that paint
Pacific Blue GM I don't remember the code tho
curious what CFM is on the compressor
I’m new to painting but should you be using your bare hands while using a tack cloth? I thought oils from the hands could pop up through the paint and ruin the job? Or am I wrong?
Could it happen? Maybe. Not in my worries tho
Chroma base is great for blending/matching difficult color but is is thin,thin,thin...which is why its so good at matching. first 2 coats are tranparent pretty much.
I noticed at the beginning you show the Black Widow in your hand with a 1.3 tip. They came with a 1.7 so can you help on where you received it ?? Thanks for the video. My Grand Prix is an 2008 and I was thinking about the front and rear bumpers and repainting those.
Again Thanks, Steve
So when I first made the video they either came the 1.3 or the 1.7 tip I haven't gone back and looked recently to see if they still have those two options. The 1.7 tip would be more for primer or thicker paints, the 1.3 is for base coat and clear
the black widow currently sells for almost 250.00. If you were spending that much for a hte gun would this gun be your choice or another. Thanks Steve
Unless you're getting it on sale you'll end up spending just over $300 for the gun. It's honestly way overpriced for what it is, its $61 to replace the aircap, fluid nozzle, and needle on it and I think that says enough. how much you really want to spend on a gun?
Are you using the HTE version? If so, that gun is really just for clear coats. The HVLP version for everything else.
it is the hte and i agree.
What's the difference between hte and lvlp???
i dont know what i did wrong but i used the black widow sprayer on my hood and got a lot of orange peel maybe it was the paint
First time watching, just a straight up question, do you like the gun or not, just honest opinion plz, thanks for the vid ,very nice
I do like it. Does the job evertime I picked it up. There are other guns that are cheaper that I do like better but it's very solid.
@@KarKraftsman do you mind telling me the ones you like better, as a biginner I'm trying to learn all I can which some learning is done by doing of course, but I don't want to waste money If I can help it, tks for taking the time to help, liked your video as well
@@colonialroofingofnorthcaro441 can't go wrong with Devillbiss starting line
@@KarKraftsman thanks for your suggestions, really appreciate you taking the time to do that, God bless
do you like the HTE over the HVLP? I am looking for just spraying clear
The 1.3 tip is what you want. Works great
Cool bro i use chromabase too its pricy, if tac the bumper dont that build static
I'd love to see a complete car painted with rustoleum cobalt blue metallic (rattle cans).
Then clear coated with a cheap gun.
Well then get to Walmart or Lowe's and get to buying them.
@@wildestcowboy2668 I would love to.... but I need a car to paint... and a place to paint it.
No need for a blend when you’re spraying with the black widow...
Can you tell us the size of the tip?thank you, good job.
This is the 1.3 tip spraying at 28lbs for base and just over 30lbs for clear.
I'm getting ready to spray a 1972 442 and haven't painted in a couple decades. I'm going to paint Duracryl Viking Blue metallic lacquer and final coats of Duracryl High Performance lacquer. I wonder how lacquer will spray with either a HTLV or HTE spray gun. Anyone with experience.
Enjoyed the video......
Just set the guns up the way they want to be sprayed and you should have no problems! Best of luck
What kind of cups are you using with the black widow
3M pps 2.0
What's the part number for the adapter for the 2.0 pps?
You should mention gun settings. Im guessing everything was wide open?
Mostly wide open, pretty sure I go over it a bit in the video
Still waiting for your come-back video....😎👍
Looks great! They didn't want to pay to fix that dent near the grill though? It's just staring at me like a roach when you turn on the lights.
What clear coat did you use? Looks like your around 6" from panel?
Clear: USC 10
About 6 - 7" medium fast arm speed
@@KarKraftsman Ok I'm using Pro Lite T110 with 1.3 tip. I heard you talk about it on another video. What is your gun settings when you use it?
26:32 when you know that you're a bad was and laid that clear right!!!!
Thanks bro
Rumor has it you need to buy a separate spray gun with the 1.7 tip. You can’t just buy the part. Am I correct?
Probably
How are you spraying air without paint coming out? Are you turning the fluid control all the way down?
Not to be rude but how do you not know how? The first part of the trigger pull is only air, you don't have to pull the trigger all the way in. When the needle is pulled is when the paint comes out.
Kar Kraftsman Not to be rude but isn’t it pretty obvious how I don’t know? I’m new to painting and I don’t have much experience with spray guns. Honestly cant believe there was an even dumber question than my question 😂
You’ll be a fast learner, as long as you’re not afraid to ask, thank them if you get your answer. If they insulted you , still thank them for the info and let the insult roll off.
@aaron anderson maybe if you were intelligent enough to apply some basic deductive logic here you'd understand the concern of the channel owner. Mentioning fluid control in his question makes one think he's handled a gun before which would make his question incredulous. Had he not mentioned that then I'm sure the response would be different based on reading many of this guy's responses. He's not an ass hat like those who try to throw him under the bus for "begging"... Little keyboard warrior that they like to be....
YOU GUYS should check out the WIDOW KILLER and THE BEAST and 3 others from American Dream Custom Paint. Much cheaper and better options. Trust me, they spray awesome, diff size tip kits for them, Patented X cut nozzle similar to Iwata.
I’m curious why you did not just pull the headlights out instead of taping them off?
I cleared over the headlights, this is the best way to restore them.
I made the comment before I saw that step, sorry lol. After I saw you clear them I understood:-).
What gun is that is it HVLP or the other one
I believe it's called HTE High transfer efficiency
How's it on cabinet finish
Never tried. I'm sure you would want the bigger tip gun for thicker paints.
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