RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition Tear-Down: "No Disassembly" Edition
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2018
- NVIDIA told us that we couldn't take apart the new RTX 2080 Ti at the last minute, but then others posted tear-downs and that eliminated the requirement to adhere to this weird rule.
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This video shows how to take apart the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition video cards from NVIDIA, useful as a guide if you're doing a custom water cooling mod or installing a liquid cooling block. This will help with EK water block or Alphacool water block installations on the RTX 2080 Founders Edition cards, and shows the reference PCB of the new NVIDIA cards. Our tear-down and disassembly steps for the Turing Founders Edition cards are clear up until the point of actual cooler disassembly, where we stopped due to complications shown in the video.
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Can't wait for Buildzoid's analysis of the PCB and VRM's! And maybe some LN2 overclocking too!
Not to dismiss you great work Steve!
I did notice that Other Steve didn't use the GN ModMat during his tear-down! Might want to talk to him about that!
I was wondering if there are some screws under the fan blades, holding the cooler together.
How come some reviewers get fake board partners cards jay for example. any old pc stuff you specifically need for your decor??
If Nvidia really do start hopping down the apple path then im thinking I will switch to amd, one apple is bad enough and no industry needs two.
Is it me Or is it Harder to now Clean out the Dust Bunny's Out of New Cards..
And Hidden Micro Screws Yhay..
So they post pictures on their own website of the PCB, allow you or EVGA to do the same, hell even break it down with buildzoid. But they won't let you do a teardown? How does that make sense?
It doesn't.
Gamers Nexus understandable, have a nice day.
You too! Glad to see the viewers understand our confusion with NV!
Maybe it has to do with that they don't want reviewers tampering with the cards before doing the actual performance tests. Maybe they're afraid reviewers will screw up when putting it all back together, causing shitty temperatures and performance.
@@Thunterise That is a very good idea.
13:54 - Drops a screw into the fan. "Well, that one's gone forever." lol
Taking notes from AvE lol
ya, especially considering he cant get the thing apart lol
Can i cancel my pre order
Thats why i use a magnet tray(kept a good distance away obviously.)
Still wouldn't have helped with him dropping a screw
The strategy Nividia seems to be using is "if you can't convince them,,, confuse them".
That's generally how things work for many new products that require a lot of convincing.
It's more of a defensive play, everyone already 'knows' nvidia are the best so they just need to make sure comparisons are confusing and inconsistent so no-body switches sides.
NVidia is not the best. but they are kind of the only ones left which makes them a defacto 'best'. this is a loss for us all, nivdia will be very happy and content in this position. - not needing to innovate as much.
NVidia - ships a card to Steve
Steve - immediately disassembles it
NVidia - emm, no disassemblies! You’ll screw it up.
Steve - already disassembled it anyway
they should have know it would happen. its like telling Linus not to drop it.
Erilaz yeh kinda sounds like someone thinks they’re above the rules. Hopefully Nvidia doesn’t send him a card next time round. Don’t wanna play by the rules, gotta be some kind of punishment
Hey, uh, Bobby -- did you try watching the video? Because we played by the rules. That's addressed in the first 90 seconds. You could have watched it in the time it took you to type that horribly uninformed comment.
Gamers Nexus next time turn off all your internet connected devices as soon as you get the unit so you don't see the last minute additions they make to the NDA you signed (can they even legally change the terms after you agree to them anyway?) can't be your fault if they fail to get in contact :D
I find it amazing how you guys still manage to read through comments with so much going on in the studio and channel. Big up for the engagement with the community. Please ignore the negativity, it will be always present on the comment section as some people ( sadly alot of people ) are mostly stressed while watching youtube after coming from a hard day at work. I completely agree with your response, but me myself, I can relate to stupid comments I have made and regretted minutes or hours right after. Its easier for us humans to release our anger and rage "indirectly" at some one, and thats why we might see so many comments on every video with high amounts of negativity attached to them.
Great work on the channel everyone ! I appreciate it alot having such professional tech oriented channels covering the most insane PC related stuff.
What are Nvidia even doing with trying to stop teardowns? Does somebody have any kind of explanation?
No. They don't have one, either. Seeing as they posted images of the PCB and coolers to their own website, visible for several weeks now, it is an absolutely baffling power play.
WHO CARES?? Let's please stop making a made-for-TV drama about every little thing in tech. The video is out...enjoy it...move on with your damn day.
micron mem ?
B W lots of people, its not drama until you get all dramatic about it....
@@bw6667 I honestly just find it funny that Nvidia is stopping people from doing teardowns, when we know perfectly well what the pcb looks like, sorry that my comment was terribly misworded.
The only reasonable explanation I have for the ban is Nvidia's cooler design.
holy hell that's a ton of screws lol
better not *screw* it up
ha
Wood screws? - (Fermi reveal 2009)
"50-55 screws" 😶
I hate when you take out all the screws and the thing still won't come apart... what was the point of the screws!?!
@@Kyntteri
⚰️🔨 L😂L
they are trying to hide the fact that everything beneath the shroud consists of broken dreams
Your comment compelled me to shed a tear.
At least they're done with DVI.. man that lingered way too long
@@giggyolly noooo i'm still using a DVI connection to my Dell 2407WHP 24" monitor. What will i do when i upgrade
@Max Pain Better yet, get a new monitor. Who buys a 20-series Nvidia graphics card to use it with a dell monitor???
I'm using same monitor as earlier commenter, have no intention of replacing it before the backlighting burns out or the robot apocalypse ends everything... Why? because it's been there for ten years and pulling it off the desk is not going to be much fun, going to have to clean it... So why bother, just leave the damn monitor there and NO PROBLEMS. =P
I bet there is an air cooled chamber for collecting the traced rays and you are not allowed to take apart because they might escape.
It's because it's glued
It's because they have a bunch of elves inside capturing the traced rays and if you take apart the cooler they'll escape and you'll just have a 1080TI
Its actually because the chamber is deionized and then sealed to prevent particulate invasion, using a technique that was named "Enviar nus"
Every other tech channel: heres the box for 2080ti and inside we find... Omg it's a 2080 ti!
Gamrs Nexus: Unboxing? So get the gpu die out of the card right? Also here's a half an hour long video explaining the card!
I love that you actually deliver something nobody else does. I have like 4 unboxing's in my sub box
people who jerk off to any hardware in 2018 are either doing it for views like jayz50cent or creatures who lived their whole lifes in the cave
Weird...Jay got not only the Nvidia cards but third parties as well.....wonder why that is?
changing paste and doing disassembly before review is sooo clever
Most tech youtubers just regurgitate press release info and spec sheets while talking to a camera, finishing off with "this product is good!" and a sponsorship segment. Very few actually make videos that are interesting and in depth.
17:21 "the top part of the crap... i mean shroud" haha
lmao
yeah, that is a complete Fail for ease of cleaning with a brush. Compressed air is not a cure for all forms of dust, sometimes you need to dislodge it with a brush.
and then 17:57 (spit it out man ... wtf) LOL
Elinzar I random;y read this exact same time he said it, just started scrolling through comments... creepy
@@probablynotabigtoe9407 lol it happened to me, but with another comment in another video and tought the same
I really enjoyed this 25 mins 56 second advertisement for the Mod Mat.
After seeing how many screws these gpus are using, it became evident that Nvidia is dropping a diss track telling AMD to go "screw" themselves.
Mr. Wonderful It also means Steve and GN could see the future and made the mod mat specially for this teardown.
Simply as overkill as the TU102 itself.
Yeah this time we got screwed....I guess the extra Money for the Card goes into screws and the huge Vaporchamber...BUT i must say this card looks pretty sturdy. I just hope the cooling is not impaired.
Was that a nerd joke? It sucked btw.
Seems to have about the same amount of screws as one of the Dual PCB versions of the GTX 295 but a lot less of a pain to disassemble (at least as far as the cooler)
Steve from Hardware Unboxed tore his down in his unboxing video. Zero FCKS given!
Steve said that he never received an email about no tear downs.
Yes. It appears that they did not send the notice to all regions, which is rather unfair.
Did you not actually watch the first part of the video where he explained its already in the public domain?
I made the comment before seeing the explanation portion of the video. It makes the whole stipulation about no tear downs even more stupid.
I can see a pattern here... rebellion of the Steves! Excellent.
Haha, Nvidia just got compared to Apple. That's definitely a huge sign of things changing... Thanks for the video! Was awesome! Much better than everyone else's juvenile oriented unboxings.
I think unboxing videos of performance orientated items such as pc components is kind of silly to begin with. But, hey to each their own.
Personally I've been comparing them for a while now, Nvidia really wants that walled garden experience that Apple has had for a while now.
yeah, Apple and Nvidia that won't let you do basic cleaning of the cooling fins. Oh, I forgot, Apple doesn't have cooling fins, lol.
Tim Cook is an idiot. At least NVidia is making some attempt at innovation, while Apple hasn't released anything groundbreaking since Jobs died.
This. I was absolutely baffled by their decision to keep their watch square. Like, what the fuck? Do they intend to have it look as some cheap toy forever? They're scared shitless of innovating.
12 hour of a whole crew for this gem, Thank you Steve & Team I appreciate your time.
Nvidia is slowly turing into Apple
Slowly? They have surpassed Apples territory 2 years ago.
Big difference is that NVIDIA is actually the best. Where Apple is far from it.
So this is a 1080Ti with a different cooler and at a higher price, sounds legit. lol
@@johngray3449 How did you even come up with that assumption?
Videocardz benchmarks:
2080 is 7-20% (15% on avg) faster than the GTX 1080ti in 4k,
Note: 7% on Pubg/Hitman 20% on BF1 and Seige
From Nvidia's white-sheet and Japan GTC:
DLSS should improve that 20% to 68% judging by the GTC Japan graphs and should be almost indistinguishable from true 4k (from white sheet) + an interesting DLSS X2 version for.......... better than 4k close to 64xSS?
DLSS is offered for FREE by Nvidia and it's only requirement is Dev interest currently 25 games support DLSS.
Ray-tracing processing is before scheduling so it can technically be optimised to not decrease Frame Rate.
"Ray-tracing processing is before scheduling so it can technically be optimised to not decrease Frame Rate."
Nay... Just nay mate! If this was possible, all cards would have it as a standard and it would not produce 40 FPS 1080p tomb raider game...
Time to partner with AIB partners to bundle the modmat with high-end graphics cards.
That's a legit good idea man.
yeah if you're spending a grand on a gpu, you're not going to notice the price of the modmats rolled into it :D
Gn coming in clutch with the tear-down
Years later I needed to remove my waterblock and this video was there to help me reassemble the card, thanks Gamers Nexus!
Something about skipping between each screw is incredibly therapeutic. You guys make great stuff!
Magneto would love this card!
2:26 Nice, The Verge is a meme now
Thanks Gamers Nexus for doing disassembly videos on GPUs. I love these videos!
It's kind of therapeutic watching tech-jesus explain how the GPU is put together and how it works!
Great job!
No dislikes yet, Nvidia are slow off the mark. GN, giving the people what they really want.
If Nvidia really are taking tips from Apple, expect soldered on backplate next generation to thwart GN and a single thunderbolt port.
Apple is the most valuable company ever. I'd take tips from them as well.
No ports, display passthrough on PCI-E, gotta use motherboard display out :P
@@ze_rubenator Was* now they're just a joke
Really? Having the highest net worth of literally every company on Earth is a joke? In that case, what _isn't_ a joke?
@@ze_rubenator A company that strives for inovation and competitive pricing. Non of which Apple does anymore
3:29 "...chichi high-end wannabe design..." Roasted lol
You're the only person I've seen that uses an antistatic wristband, good video left a like and subbed
Steeve is my type of guy, first thing he did upon receiving his 2080ti is destroying it appart to see how it's built!
Thumbs up!
"Remember: no disassembly"
Titanium Rain Please do not disassemble vital review apparatus.
modern forceware 2
No disassemble! NO DISASSEMBLE! JOHNNY 5 IS ALIVE!
There's AI cores in the RTX! What kind of monster would dissemble an AI?
@GN, Thank you for showing that email bit very awesome of you guys as usual.
this was cool to watch! i feel like we might have missed out on you talking about vapour chambers
Thanks for vids bros.
Have you looked in through the fanblades? I remember taking apart some older GPU that had 3 screws per fan that held the whole cooler together. Was a pain in the backside to get apart...
My first thought seeing your comment was "...That's the fan for my 1060... I bought it last year" and a second later "...okay, it is actually quite an old card now...".
Pro tech tool kit just gained a new customer :)
Thanks, this vid helped me disassemble my GPU to "bake" it back to life. It was a success and she's back up running :) ( cold solder fixed)
Thumbnail on point 👌
They locked the gpu with hundreds of screws
No they will weld the back plate and the fans to the gpu, and then have a special controller in the gpu to fail to boot if you somehow manage to remove the back plate and the fans. And it will explode.
Also Glue
@@BlueBird-wb6kb yeah thanks.
I can watch these all day.
Great content like always, keep up the good work! Your channel is one of the few sources I trust to fairly review products and provide insightful explanations of hardware and hardware news. And may I add the sheer volume of quality content you guys have been able to produce lately is absolutely staggering, well done :)
cant wait for RTX 2180 ti for $2000 next year
3080ti tho
more likely it will be GTX 2080Ti with useless raytracing hardware disabled so it will overclock higher for the price about the RTX 2080 ...
+Tovenz
Next year? Mate you will have to wait 3 years now for 3080 Ti, its one more year for each generation.
Asghaad ray tracing isn’t useless it’s just not in games 3D software uses ray tracing to simulate the path of light particles. It’s one of the big differences between in game graphics and fmv’s. Fmv’s use high poly and ray tracing, in game uses maps to simulate light reflections and shadows... ray tracing uses the actual path of light over geometry to render them as close to reality as possible. If that sounds useless than I guess you don’t want to do those things. Some people think cars are useless and ride there bike everywhere.
as it is now it is USELESS ... the upgrade of nearly unperceiveable softer shadows and few reflections is NOT worth downgrading TWO levels of resolution (from 4k to 1080p) and losing 60-80 percent of the framerate on top of that ...
and as usual you hopped on the Nvidia bandwagon without realizing its FAKE raytracing ... it doesnt trace whole scenes its very selective and limited FAD ...
and no i DO NOT want to pay for USELESS hardware that is absolutely USELESS right now ... when we can do at least 2k 60 fps it might be worth to SOME people who prefer those miniscule effects to playing at high framerates, but as long as it doesnt even do OBSOLETE resolution - at high end market these cards are at ... - and on top of that cant even hit mere 60 fps stable NOONE will be using that FAD ...
stop eating up Nvidias PR crap and realize the tech is unusable at current hardware levels while bumping the price to double of what they should be ... in other words you are paying TWICE THE PRICE for pre-alpha level hardware ... all Nvidia is doing here is to push out hardware that is NOT READY and they know it ...
Steve, we love you. “Tweezers”....lol. Don’t forget your Swiss Army knife!!!
Seen a few tear-downs before this one so think you safe Steve.. But so far only seen you do a deep dive of the card as you did on the earlier video and way more important info imo ;)
Even though a pretty much quit gaming in 2011, I love Gamers Nexus. Nothing can outstrip my hunger for raw data crunching power.
"No disassembly"
_disassembles it anyway_
Gamers Nexus is straight gangsta.
You guys should post Ifixit guides after you do a teardown.
Glad to see the PCB at least comes off easy to replace the paste. I love the 20 series dual fan design.
Thanks SO much for this. Had no problem EK blocking my Titan X but of course this cooler is a little different. Going to use it for reference again for sure when I pick up a 2080 TI and block. Thanks!
I'm really surprised that nVidia was able to make a GN proof cooler. I'm not sure if I should congratulate them or be fuming pissed.
Wiley e coyote. Would have been proud
That u couldn't get thru the shroud.💐
Haha ha ha, aLouD. 🤣😅😉🎉
You meant Wile E. Coyote.
Aah, teardown. The ASMR of PCMR.
This is honestly 10x better than any IMPOSSIBLE PUZZLE videos
No chill Steve strikes again! I LOVE YOU MAN!
Nvidia - NO TEARDOWNS!
GN - Let's do it.
SAVAGE!
The sad thing is that we actually decided to take the high road and adhere to their last-minute, weird requirement -- but then that went out the window when NVIDIA failed to inform other regions of this new rule, and therefore created a rule primarily affecting US media and few others.
@@GamersNexus this whole release cycle has been really confusing and uncoordinated, even the reveal show was messed up with timing.
It feels like everything Nvidia does these days doesnt make any sense. Ever since the conference there were poor decisions and communication and the last minute requirement change is the icing on the cake. Fortunately we don't have to wait that long anymore. One week and it'll be finally over.
Gamers Nexus nevertheless they’ll probably get really pissed at you mate. I can tell the you guys don’t have the type of relationship with Nvidia many others in the space have but hopefully the relationship, however big or small, doesn’t get strained due to this.
If they send you review samples (i think) at least they have you in mind for that, so hopefully they won’t stop sending you review samples after this. I don’t know if you should’ve done this after embargo lift just to be on the safe side but you know the situation better. I’d just hate to see you guys get into trouble because over something like this.
I don’t really understand why nvidia did this though cos It’s not like in a few days people wouldn’t do it with their own cards anyway. Really strange decision by Nvidia.
We're fine. They approved this personally.
GTX NoTearDown Ti
RTX*
You need to buy a Gsync monitor for that first.
Never been so early. Liked the video before even finishing it. ✌️
I like the pcb / cooler mounting points, evenly spread across the pcb.
Which should prevent pcb from bending under the weight of the cooler & prolonged heat exposure
Steve, you forgot your antistatic Live Strong band!
Everytime i open up an RTX related video i see yet another idiotic PR choice by nvdia. I really hope AMD 7nm brings the pain train...
Prayers are useless, consumers need to stop buying based on brand and actually buy based on performance for their dollar, which we know wont happen.
Look ItsRain performance per dollar is great and all, but many of the people with the big bucks don't want the best value, they want 2fps more than you (or more gigarays than you lol). That's how come intel can still charge 2 grand for a cpu that only just outperforms AMDs 1 grand cpu by a tiny bit. just buy what you're happy buying and don't worry about everyone else. I too hope AMD's next GPU performs well in the affordable midrange as I'm about to upgrade my monitor and plan on going freesync
oh thats why my 1080 was over a hundo less than a vega56 where i live and performs better
Vega was extremely over priced due to mining, which is not a normal occurrence. Anyways gtx 1080 vs vega 64, vega 64 is faster in more games, while the vega 56 is faster than the 1070.
Look ItsRain "consumers need to stop buying based on brand and actually buy based on performance for their dollar"
They are. Deal with it. AMD has piss poor performance for the dollar right now.
"Anyways gtx 1080 vs vega 64, vega 64 is faster in more games, while the vega 56 is faster than the 1070."
But not fast enough to win the performance for the dollar competition. Also, 1080Ti outclasses them all. Get rekt.
This is why I'm such a fan of this channel. They really don't give a flying frito what NVIDIA has to say.
Great Tear Down, I appreciate knowing what's under the hood. Also appreciated you follow the rules the manufacturer makes about publication. That might sound contradictory, but it isn't! The cooling Solution might be a step up in some ways but they're still giving partners plenty of room for customization, it seems. Nice to know MU makes the memory.
Can you make a video about the differences between axial and centrifugal fans? Thank you.
LeleSocho Axial blows/sucks the air on the direction of the fan axis while centrifugal does from the leading edge/perimeter of the blades circumference.
What about performance wise? What about in a confined case? So many legitimate questions here, Nvidia got good engineers, so why they stood by blower type for so long and sunk so much money in R and D?
Maxime Bakleh That’s a good question and I presume it’s because of reliability. Let me put an example. Dual card SLI configuration generates a lot of heat and when you pair two axial fan cards that close the upper one will always overheat considerably more than the one below, and I’m talking about certain case cooling designs that block the airflow because of the internal card layout. With blower cards the temp difference between them is reduced as the card’s airflow is enclosed on the card itself, blowing hot air to the the back of the I/O plate vents.
nVidia: "Our products are sophisticated. There are a million screws in this new graphic card."
customer: "Phw.. Founder's Edition. Screw it! EVGA is it."
EVGA 20XX cards have a disease.
@@userunknown10 has it completely right. Those things are uglier than shit. It'll be MSI or Asus for me, assuming any of these cards will be any sort of upgrade from the 10-series.
Wow... First The Verge with the "Short Circuit" guy, now NO DISASSEMBLE!!! This is a fun week-ending. :P :)
looks like the cooler would do for the mod I have in mind. Waiting for more.
I have only been a subscriber since the beginning of the year, (after I couldn't stand Linus anymore.) So I haven't been around for a GPU launch before.
All the little details and information that you are giving us, like bit sizes and a detailed tear down that I could follow along with in future is most welcome.
Thanks for being an actual resource that I can come back too!
ikr linus is an annoying fucking soy boy also he sounds like he is on helium
I could really care less about the presenter, I was really just looking for information. When I was searching for information when building my gtx 660 PC, his content came up first. I didn't watch a lot, but his content was a lot different back then. Obviously not as detailed as GN, but it was less produced, more honest, and MUCH less clickbait (they used to actually put the product name in the video title, IMAGINE.)
It took a long time to find a channel that fit what I was looking for in a tech review channel, and GN is still not perfect.
@GN if you added monitors into your review wheelhouse, I would love it.
tried pulling the fans straight up ?
The black shroud needs to come off - it's clear from the nVidia Graphics Reinvented video towards the end.
"Not including tweezers, the verge" hahaha Steve, you are a good amoungst men
Those tweezers are so helpful mate...
You should get wireless anti-static wristband, did you learn nothing from The Verge?
Or shoes, but,then ,you'll have to get an antistatic floor...
Nahhh man, just put a tin foil over your head. All the static will be balanced out, its what the kids are doing this days.
an antistatic surface to work on or the case will short circuit the parts XD
How did you ever raytrace your logo without NVIDIA's perfect cards?!
LTT just suggested coming here if you want serious in-depth tech content. Not a bad shout out
Great video.. I do much the same and I love how you post the video trying to figure it out :)
We'll just call it an extended unboxing of the gpu itself ;)
Yup, u need a better story? Get trump's lawyers
My respect for partner cards has significantly increased.
Great video as always.
Nice card. Still missing one ram-chip though. I can wait for the complete product ;) Thanks for sharing!
1. Gets a Card sent over
2. Tears it down immideatly
3. Gets a message from Nvidia not to tear it down
Ooops, I did it again
I don't understand the logic behind this card series launch. It's like different departments in the company aren't communicating to eachother properly.
Love that troll you slipped in on The Verge LMAO
Why do i have a feeling that the abrupt cut at 15:30 involved some swearing and frustration in addition to the projectile screwdriver. Great video BTW
Steve " Hand Model " Burke
Normally with tech disassembly stuff where there's trouble taking it apart, I tend to mumble "You idiot. It's clearly this..." etc.... Not here. You tried everything I would have. I have the same suspicion you do with the black section perhaps having pop-tabs and revealing more screws... but maybe the damn thing's glued on? Thanks as always GN. Looking foreword to a proper dismantle tutorial when you get it figured out after some sleep.
I agree that black part is probably glued, with screws underneath. Bastards 😁
You read my mind. I'm thinking the black part between the fans is snapped on with plastic clips and once removed reveals more screws.
Christopher Hendrix could there be screws behind the fans, which you can get to by using suction cups on the circles where the fan blades meet? Or maybe they have custom tools that resemble the ones used to pull keycaps from mechanical keyboards?
At that point, I'd have dremeled it... or just pliers and hammer
the hubs on the fans caught my eyes, they look like they have 'teeth' that a tool could lock onto. but the black section between fans might end up being the cornerstone. it could be glued, snapped in or even molded to the already assembled cooler assembly during production. the tricks companies have to thwart the curious are never ending, and at this point i wish i could afford one just to figure how to tear it apart
Maybe it's like a puzzle box and you have to spin it or there are magnetic pins where you have to hold a magnet against it for them to detach and allow separation.
It really is a slick looking cooler shroud design.
Yup that 1 trillion dollar valuation on apple and now all hw companies are chasing that. I'm expecting more price gouged, drip fed, small perf upgrades annually.
Yay for people who make them grow into that with giving them their money
What is inflating the value of a company by doing stock buybacks, dumbass
It is just so so overpriced that it has to be so extremely good compared to 1080 in order to be worth buying. Even then, would you really need such a card now? I really hate their pricing they started with the 900 series. Seems so very anti-consumer for PC gamers that I don't even know where to start.
I do agree, and my argument is that you own 1080 then you can play at high or very high settings with pretty much every game out there. The 2080 seems very much like a paper launch. We as a consumers do indeed have a choice, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that the 2080 is what, 200 dollars more than the 1080? To me Nvidia are shitting on their consumers and enthusiasts, but it is certainly their choice to do so. The whole Apple route they are going isn't going down well with me either. I know I am not forced to buy their stuff, but I can still comment on what I think about Nvidia.
Enthusiast is someone that loves so much a niche of product (computer parts, cars, etc) that they're willing to starve to buy the most expensive product that they can possibly afford from that brand. It's just an irrational thing...
Dude, do you live in the same world as I do? Nvidia and any other company is doing the best for them first, the consumer comes second. In this case, Nvidia also has to give returns to their investors and investors don't give a fuck about consumers and delivering great producs at great prices, they just want the return on their investment.
Lets not pretend they are priced out of the market?
Look at the steamhardwaresurvey and tell me how these cards that are even more expensive than the current gen are going to do. 1-5% max in the first year would be pretty good for these cards.
@Tab Well, depends on your definition of enthusiast . For some people the money is not a problem, they want the best performance regardless of the price to performance ratio
You can go frame by frame in the end of the "Geforce RTX - Graphics Reinvented" video and there is a breakdown. They show all thescrews on the back, but don't show the ones on the front, they do show the screw holes though. It looks like there are 4 screws under the black plate that says RTX 2080ti on the front. It also looks like the 2 silver side "wings" come off.
Damn Steve... into-over. To measure to centre of two identical objects you measure from the left side of one to the left side of the other. That will give you accurate measurements for centres.
I thought NVidia said no tear-down?
Yeah and they said PhysX would be the next big thing in gaming, Nvidia tends to be wrong.
Check the description
ErgonomicChair, wow you have an emotional attachment to being anti nvidia dont you? Weird.
Darth NVidia: "NO DISINTEGRATIONS!"
Apple of GPU, c'mon cut nvidia some slack - no glue. Apple primary engineering component is glue and non-standard screw heads. IMO still far off, aside ridiculous signals to media.
Yeah I agree, screws are awesome. This many is probably unnecessary, but it's better than glue for sure.
maybe that's why they couldn't disassemble the rest of the coolerthere's glue holding it together
To be fair, I'd have got xray (same one used for BGA examination) to find more screws. I really don't think there is glue, given the amount of screws spent already - more like hidden ones under the fans.
404Fox, I forgot to mention: glue is quite unlikely for a simple reason: heat - or they risk to turn into Apple's "unibody" macbook. Cyanoacrylate (aka superglue) has less 20% of its strength at around 80C. Of course some glues might be rated for 300C but those are not used in electronic engineering to my knowledge.
check if there are any screws between fan fins, like in MSI gaming series, which hold fan assembly and shroud together with heatsink
There looks to be a pry slot possibly for the black cover in the middle that contains the lighted logo near the notch on the opposite side
Using this "Apple" type construction, with 50+ screws and esoteric construction.. likely cost a lot of money that made these overpriced cards even more overpriced than they should have been. NVidia doesn't cater to regular people, they only cater to rich kids with more money than sense and no understanding of value. A card for sheep. Drop the price $300 and it would be a decent card. At this price it's just a running joke. I keep hearing Jensen Huang saying "the more you buy, the *cheaper* it is".
Only $300 drop? Why not $600?
"Not involving tweezers" The Verge should just pack up and change his day job at this point. I prefer pre-partnership RUclips, a creative place where if you don't like or know much about the subject you are talking about You aren't Jumping on any trend bandwagon for a quick buck.
Steve, please do a followup video (however short it may be) when you *do* figure out how to take that thing fully apart. Enquiring minds want to know. ;)
God job,working with an ESD strap,man !!!
Sadly the stuff going on at Green reminds me of what happen with FrozenCPU back a few years ago, The company went all over the place with products and pricing as well as Customer Satisfaction and it seems #NGREEDIA is following suit (hopefully not from the same issues as Mark did back then) a Once trusted Company is now laughed at, After that SO called GAMER Launch I wont buy a Green card, I plan to wait to see what AMD & INTEL drop.........its been this long another year isnt going to hurt that much more! as for tear down paul there are 2 other Tech YT channels who did it already too....lol good going Goofy Green!!!
I can get making a Profit but when you do it on the backs of the PC Gaming Community who helped keep you from going Bankrupt. I still remember them taking out ads in PC mag & doing the sleazy move in a PC mag ad like... Gamers were on the cliffs edge, we can fall off at any time if this happens you cant fight evil (thats what they called AMD BC they were red). They had a few like this in PC world, comp shopper, etc..they acted like OMG were dying go buy or were all fucked....they did and made a huge turn around as we know and now just say FUCK YOU....so as far as I am concerned about BOTH... Screw them let them EAT some of them BILLIONS they made on our Bled dry wallets!
WE so need AMD to come out with a decent GPU as we seen RTX looks like a joke for gamers, also now new News it wont even work in Multiplayer setting.....so yep wtg Goofy Green!! Intel is kicking Intel in Server and hopefully more to come on the consumer CPU and if we get good consumer GPU's then Screw Green let them suck the bottom for a few years Humble pie so deserved if they get there!!!
So when the 1080 ti degradation will start from nvidia???
Just put it with a ryzen cpu and you got it
I have been threw this process many times and I appreciate your patience and care. Well done! lol ps beating apple since 1984 :D
That moment when the Mod mat shows how super useful it is to anyone who has not bought it yet.