RTX 2080 Ti Hybrid Mod: Liquid Cooling Founders Edition (1/2)
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- We watercooled the RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition card, sticking a closed-loop liquid cooler (AIO/CLC) onto the GPU instead of a custom water block.
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Liquid cooling the RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition (reference) design follows the same process as the Titan V, we found, and so we used a 280mm closed-loop liquid cooler from be quiet! (the 280 Silent Loop), then added Corsair ML140 fans for cooling.
There aren't any official water blocks shipping for the RTX 2080 Ti Founders cards yet, so we're going with the CLC route. VRM/VRAM cooling will be handled with a lot of direct airflow, and will be completely within spec, as usual from this approach. Open loop water blocks for RTX cards will be tested at a later date.
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@AskGN Can you show us resistance readings of the ModMat? Connected, not, with you connected, not, etc. Just curious!
Sorry for all the posts. Remember when people were running motherboards in a fishtank of oil what came of that
Steve have you thought about using nuts to hold the screws in place before you add the AIO? I would think installation would be easier if you did but I'm sure as hell no expert on the matter.
I really like the mods you guys do, it makes me happy to see people still enthusiastic about making things work and never settling for "what's given" keep the content coming gamers Nexus.
@@ThunderGoatz yo same here
Well, things were easier back when the top of the line GPU would cost you €400. But I follow your philosophy
Same here. Shunt moded my 1060 with 2MO resistors and istalled a arctic accelero xtreme VI cooler on it. Card runs @ 42°celsius under load. (2138MHZ @1.093mv GPU and 9200MHZ RAM) Power draw is at 180W.
With my mods i was able to achieve a 4850 score at time spy.
whaaaaaaaat so you basically have a 1070 but in a 1060 wtf 2138 is mazing
i wish i knew what this shunt modding is seems dangerous tho lol
@@tgdhsuk3589 no a 1070 scores at least 5450 stock. Most do more than 6000. But yeah a 1070 has 50% more shader units which is why its faster even stock.
Soldering some resistors onto a pcb is not dangerous and quiet easy if you know what you do. If you dont do a vmod and increase core voltage to more than 1093mv (nvidias limit) the card will be fine with a normal life span
The hybrid mods are my favorite videos from you all.
Thanks!
Yup was waiting for this. Normal Reviews... Well they boring and all over net :P
Gamers Nexus,
By way of unasked for advice, if you insert the screws from the backside of the card (just as you have done @9:33) and then without mounting the cooler bracket run the nuts all thew way down to the PCB and snug them tight, you can then use the screws as studs. This will allow you to mount the cooler over the studs and secure it with some more nuts. You could even place coiled springs between the cooler bracket and the second nuts to aid in keeping the mounting tension equal across the cooler plate and the GPU chip, much like spring tension is used to normally mount a cooler to a CPU's integrated heat spreader.
Officiously yours,
A Concerned Mechanic
Not 100% sure but the screws may not be perfectly perpendicular to the card due to the cooler not being made for the spacing on the card. I was thinking the same thing though
Well it is not Noctua's enthusiast grade SecuFirm2™ multi-socket mounting that is for sure... nothing is easyer then that.
The screws allow them to make perfect contact with the die then it can be secured down with the nuts. If you were to have them rest on the nuts as you stated like studs then you would have to have the nuts be the exact height needed for perfect contact. It is much easier to bring and down and tighten rather than need an exact height out of a given nut.
Hello Jdecasse413, As picklesthegreatest just said, the second set of nuts (and springs) would go on top of the mounting bracket. Verbal descriptions and plain text don't always convey ideas clearly. Here is a link to a product with pictures which hopefully will flesh the idea out a bit more. For what it's worth, thanks for your criticism; I'm always trying to say things better. :-) www.aliexpress.com/item/4Set-Lot-LGA-115X-1150-1155-1156-CPU-Heatsink-Mounting-Screw-Kit-Water-Cooling-Radiators-Backplane/32792386440.html
WarGamingRefugee yea after I read it a second time I understand you weren’t using them as standoffs just as studs. Then securing with retention springs and nuts as a mechanical engineer and drafter I should have realized that. But as you said plain text is nothing like looking drawings.
A new video every day? Sometimes 2 in one day? Talk about a well oiled machine 👍
if only they were quality videos. this video is basically a filler video to get views and revenue. Not saying I blame them....but the part two video is the only video that even matters. this one is pure click-bait.
not really.....they sell kits to do this. the kits have instructions. it isnt a new concept. theres a plethora of videos available on how to attach these on cards.
GN has to make their $. Just as greedy as the companies they criticize... He also tried selling his matts a good three freakin time in this video.
Every one of their video's in the last while have been essentially infomercials for their branded garbage to make them money.
Well I found it super interesting, and it's nice if somebody wants to actually do it, to see somebody else doing it. I learned a lot of the stuff I know about computer building from RUclips videos, before I began actually doing it.
GN videos on a sick day off makes it all better
"Dammit wrong hole again!" Lmfao
No, he said "God damn, that's the wrong fucking hole again."
Nah, that's what she said.
Nah, that’s what *he* said
"Spread the LOAD evenly"
I wish the Silent Loop 280 was available in the United States, great looking AIO. Shame that Be Quiet really only sells their air coolers here and not the liquid coolers.
Legal issues with Asetek prevented that, unfortunately.
Is there a good article or site I can read up on that? Doesn't Asetek make virtually all the liquid coolers here in the U.S. or something?
@roller_47 Asetek have the US patent so they're the only manufacturer allowed to make CLCs with the pump integrated in the block iirc. That's why everyone who wants to sells CLCs with that design has to go through Asetek. There was one noteworthy attempt at placing the pump in the radiator to circumvent the patent, but I don't recall which manufacturer did it.
EKWB had or still has ( I cant remember), with a pump built in the cooler, and their evo mx cpu block.
@@CampyCamper I think you're thinking of Swiftech, EKWB and Enermax. Swiftech and EKWB have intergrated the pump into the radiator, Enermax intergrated the pump in the tubing going to the block. These are the ones I know of there may be more. And I don't know if all are sold in the US though... Edit: see; Swiftech H220-X, EKWB EK-XLC Predator, Enermax LiqFusion
Great work as always guys. Love the new location. Keep up the good work.
Man I really really hate that we're stuck under 500k, even when doing the best reviews on cutting edge technology. Is doing shitty viral videos the only way to grow in this new youtube? Please don't fall in temptation on doing that and keep it up!
Viral videos is good but short lived. Steve knows what hes doing by reliably producing quality content.
I feel what you mean^^ But as long as real interested people find their way, it's ok. Don't forget, this kind of technical information is not for everybody, some people just can only process the name of the newest smartphone.
Sven F >Don't forget, this kind of technical information is not for everybody, some people just aren't interested in the nitty-gritty.
That gets your point across, without making you sound condescending.
ebol08 and there have been 10000000 overlock your 2080 videos. 500k views for yet another isn’t. And
THE VERGE THERMAL APPLICATION STYLE!!!
Because three out of four screws is good enough!
That might become a MEME... so many comments over last while... ha... slide the PSU over the bottom pads to avoid grounding it then screw it to the side of the case?
The Verge wouldn't have removed the original paste though....
Love my iFixIt pro toolkit does wonders for electronic tear down repair and assembly. Also big thanks to you guys for not doing the annoying thing when the "unboxing embargo" was lifted and providing information and details instead of the "wow look at what we got that we can unbox and show you but tell you literally nothing about that you don't already know" meaningless bs some others did.
Steve , don't forget about the useful wonder ZIP-Ties can bring to the party. I've used them for years in my builds. Including successfully attaching a water block onto a 1070 ti.
Thanks, Steve.
No seriously 5 years later I bought a 2080ti matrix with a dead AIO for 150€ and you saved my life. thx
It doesn't OC much better under water. Nvidia locked the card down. Der8auer tried it all. Even did a power mod, voltage mod.
MotoK tips i dont get why its so locked down that vrm is just so wasted on this card
@@whitenoiserevived6575 I think the cooler can't? handle much more heat within the aucustic envelope.
MotoK tips yeah your right i just find it so bizzare all this money spent on the vrm, but did nvidia not realise these founder edition are the best to watercool
Is this a chip issue or a board issue?
Guys,
The card is locked down for GPU (processor) reliability issues. Every time you raise the voltage the GPU life decreases and as you approach the maximum overclock it can even drop below SIX MONTHS though it varies a lot... NVidia has every right IMO to choose a maximum load to give 5+ years expected life to typical cards...
put this another way, would you pay $1300USD for a graphics card if you knew it would only last a year if you got an additional 15% overclock (over max current overclock) or would you stick with the current max overclock to get 5+ years?
It also ties into Warranties as well since it would be a company like EVGA who'd have to replace the card not NVidia who just supplies the chips (not sure about FE cards from NVidia).
U should have used springs on the screws between the nuts and the plate
beetle adventure racing would be TOO strong of a test for that hybrid card ;p
Steve grab some fuel hose or plastic tubing thats close to the diameter of those screws, cut them to the size needed so they act as stand/spacer and tension stop for the water block. Place them between the deck of the board and bottom of the bolt ears, it will make it more stable and allow for proper tightening without cracking the die.
dya think steve would be like Thor : Ragnarok, if someone tried to cut his hair short?
This is why I love your channel. What a great project, well done mate. I always wish these channels had someone with an engineering / fab background; it’d be a simply job knocking up a proper backplate with some foam backing, appropriate height spacers for equal contact, and lifting off the shunts and shorting them properly with solder.
And no, I don’t mean someone like the erection with a hard hat (who doesn’t actually use PPE) they use on LTT (not hating, I’m a subscriber). Anyhoo, looking forward to the second part, loving your Turing coverage.
Side note: you can use a second nut under the bracket to limit it to the correct depth, and you should really have a washer below the nut there.
Just want to say, I really appreciate the content. I come to your channel first for reviews. Keep it up champ!
I'm more hyped for the next video than I was for RTX.
I like how you handle a $1200 video card so frivolously.
Cool, I can't wait to see the results with the added thermal headroom.
der8auer did a video called "RTX 2080 meets DRY ICE" pretty interesting :) only 20% better clocks at the cost of 50% more power draw, not really worth it!
ZeakQ that was on a 2080 not the Ti version. Be interesting to see the scaling.
2080Ti will still scale the same. It's just a bigger die, same architecture, same manufacturing process. ruclips.net/video/9_G7tWAh5ms/видео.html if you wanna see the video :)
I can't even unbox one of those babies much less mod it lol. AWESOME VIDEO!!
Why not simply use the NZXT G12? It takes literally just a few minutes to put it onto the GPU, it fits perfectly on any standard NV/AMD cards, and gives same temp results as custom loop if used with big enough AIO?
Not "any" --some cards have VRMs and/or caps (or even power sockets) that get in the way of the mounts for the G12. (Though yeah, I wanna know if it fits too, because that's my plan!)
if someone finds a video on this please share
@@MicahGoldstein Any news about your project?
@@Phantigua I'm still waiting on an EVGA Step-up. : (
But for reference, I'm running the G12 with an X62 AIO on my 1080 Ti, and I'm never more than 15deg above ambient on the GPU. My 970 had one of the power sockets (6-pin I think) in the way, so I removed it and put it on a cable. It will be strange and awesome if I can use this same mount on three different GPUs!
EDIT: also for reference, that X62 is in the top, venting, and my CPU gets as much as 44 above ambient, and the air off my CPU rad blows at my GPU. Even with that air, the GPU RAM doesn't break 22 over ambient. I'm dying to see how the 2080 Ti will overclock in this setup!
18:00 So relieving to know that a genius like Steve also makes the same mistake I find myself doing far too often these days
5 years ago that wall of GPUs would def make some miners drooling over :D
Steve, use 4 more nuts for something like that, put the bolt through the hole then add a nut. This will prevent the bolt from falling out if you lift it before the cooler is attached. Obviously on this application you need some slop so luckily they don't need to be tightened. It does make a difference.
Moment when Steve already has rtx on water and Jay don't.
Are you saying continuous like continuity? You where performing a continuity test between the connectors and the current shunts, so you'd say they have continuity, not "are continuous". A continuous circuit is slightly different definition.
Thanks for the video! You inspired me to make a mod like this with a 240mm watercooling I got for only 48 € on my 1080ti and right now I am sitting at 2063 core clock under full load and temps will not go above 52 C with only 65% fan. AMAZING results, before I was underclocking to 1750-1830s core clock with temps going above 85 C at 100% fan(stock Gygabyte 1080ti). I used zip ties to fit the cooler properly as the holes would not align perfectly otherwise. Tested in Shadow of the Tomb Raider in 4k ultra and it is way smoother with no dips in framerate! Also my CPU temps have dropped with the case being less hot thanks to the watercooling directing all GPU heat out of the case.
I love this mod. I watch buildzoid and I don't see (cannot find) any other channels as good as yours for technical details.
Part 2 and the Live Stream!! Cant wait bro, Awesome MOd BTW.
i like when good products have a name that usually relates to something not great. Like "fluke" or "schiit"
70+ Screws!! 70+!! Great video Steve.
little tip, when measuring stuff, please take the center whole on each opposite side, looks a lot better to people who are very precise with measuring, germans for example like derbauer :P
Jay: ha I win
GN: hold my beer.
17:49 actually made me die inside.
omg the size of this silicon.
funny how people stopped pointing the finger at the size of vega.
Man, liquid cooling a GPU is no joke
When you would rather spend $1200 on a lock of hair from Tech Jesus instead of a gpu FeelsGoodMan
Kazuhira Fiddles Use it to clone him and have your own tech Jesus in just 18 years!
The performance gains would be higher than going to a 2080ti too
I can't imagine how much this creeps-out Steve...
Didn't The Verge design a special set of tweezers for hair extracting purposes such as this?
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17:06 that's what she said.
17:57 again
no
I was looking for that comment^^
@@minimalmo me too XD
"wrong fucking hole again". Steve had a fun weekend
It ain't no Kingpin liquid nitrogen frankencooler, but it's sexy enough
Hi Steve, another awesum video. Hope to see Titan V hybrid included in this comparison.
hybrid mods are my favorite videos loved it cant wait to try it
Fun fact: "0L" is actually "O.L." and it stands for "open loop," meaning it is not continuous. :)
One thing you should show is the constant resistance in your leads, this will help people better u see stand that 0.1 ohms is typically within the leads and is nothing to worry about, but most people who care enough to try themselves already know that probably lol
That thermal jizz killed me
Steve, on the Multimeter its not 0L its OL for Over Limit meaning the resistance is higher than it can register.
I am so happy to hear the hybrid models are coming out next month. I always wait for the Hybrid and it is well worth it. Down side it is prob going to be $1400...
Bequiet looks made for it! Nice looking mod.
I don't know what shampoo this guy is using, but I want one myself.
6:05 my fellow R9 380X Nitro passed away......can i pick just a tiny tiny tiny little humble card, Stephen-senpai?
Should definitely send me one of those EVGA 2080 Ti cards
I love the fact that you pay more for an FE card, yet can’t push the voltage as far as the other board partners. Would love to see a voltage mod.
it’d be neat to see the performance difference between the extra thicc and the not-as-thicc evga coolers
Been waiting for this mod for SO long.
#RIPJAY #RIPPAUL
Loving this test. Very resourceful. Looking forward to the results vid.
the correct way is actually a spring behind the nut and check if the cooler has a gap
really need some spacers to get it tight. Even with couple of washer and nuts you can get it more stable.
Aren't the points about how it's not too much thermal grease kinda moot because whenever anyone talks about having too much grease, they're always referring to conductive grease and it says in the little blurb that pops up for a second that you're only referring to non-conductive thermal grease?
I suggest using sharper lead ends (like .05) on your multimeter for finer conductivity testing, or hook/pincer lead ends so you don't gotta hold the other lead to a pin while trying to make a stable read out.
Good God brother..I understand you've modded so many CPUs and GPUs ... But man I cringe at the rough handling of the PCB. 😅👌 That being said.. Your still one of my all time "so far" respectable channels I follow. Respect Brother! 🙏
As usual. Nvidia: do not disassembly. Steve: Hold my beer! LMAO. Great content!
I just realized, that guy from the verge said you need a thermal paste spatula, but he didn't use it when he created that Frankenstein monster of thermal paste
LOL state of those heat pads...anyone else think the chokes looks like covered in blue chewing gum..apologies if that description been used already
I like these videos, keep making them. Appreciate the enthusiasm.
Jay's2cents will probably do this, but with a beercan, empty old spice stick, part of a guitar fret, radiator from an old chevy, & and a room Air conditioner... and lots and lots of tape!
A bit about multimeter. OL means overload, or open lead, open load, open in general. When you see your resistence going nuts, bad connection or the circuit has capacitors in it which are being partially charged by the meter.
Great stuff. Can't wait to see the results.
"Screw with confidence" -The Verge
20:56 *casually dangles a $1,200 graphics card*
When you test for continuity between shunt and power line, just curious why not just use the continuity test mode on that multimeter?
"Buildzoid has covered this" may as well be GOD FUCKING SAID IT. When I hear "Buildzoid" that's it. I'm sold. Buildzoid / der8auer imho.
Is this high fps? Movement reminds me of tvs with all the post-processing you turn off when you get it home. Not judging, good for you pushing the envelope. Just threw me for a loop.
Why are you planning on using LM to short the shunts? Why not just solder on a wire? You should get much better performance and stability by doing it right.
since the screws are countersunk and do not sit completely orthogonal to the pcb, when you measure the fit you should measure from the cooler plate to the pcb, not how much screw there is hanging out.
Nice to see you're wearing an antistatic bracelet. :-)
Curious if you could've gotten a Kraken G10 to work on it?
No. You'd have to use this cooler anyway. The hole spacing is incorrect and there is no actual point to using it. We can get better cooling with a freestyle mod than with the constraints of a GPU bracket.
I got a 2080 Ti with a waterblock without the original cooler. So, I am using this method to test it.
are you using that new wireless antistatic tech the verge came out with
That EVGA one is indeed EXTRA THICC
I think it would be awesome if you guys did monitor reviews. Can't find any good reviewers
where is the second part?.. grat vid and thanx for sharing it with us
nice storing setup
Awesome, I actually had fun watching this.
this is great content as always but could be edited down a bit tighter. All the time you're looking through the boxes indecisively is just burned. I do appreciate the live'ish feel of the videos but this is unnecessarily long.
can't wait for the second part lol
you are doing gods work
You should use the DMM in the beeper mode, would be easier for video.
Steve, I wonder what you think about the GALAX GeForce RTX 2080Ti HOF OC Lab WC Edition. Very pretty card with a full waterblock but ... $1,800!?! Considering how ridiculous of a price this is, maybe you would indulge us by starting a whole series of DIY water cooling tutorials for RTX 2080 Ti?
Is there a kit for watercooling the RTX2080 Ti, without making all these modifications? link me! thank you. Also, gg on this hybrid mod.
He said it's overpriced for the performance upgrade, but it looks like better performance than the Titan for no cost increase. RTX is a freebie. The 2080 is pretty much the replacement for 1080Ti, and costs about the same, for similar performance plus RTX. Even if RTX is useless the cost for the same performance didn't change.
Easy with the calipers bruh! Don't get stabby stab stab on me now. Reminds me of the first time I tried attaching those old cpu heatsinks that required a screwdriver and massive force to attach. RMA!
Those CPU coolers always terrified me. lol
Buildzoid seemed to recommend resistors in parallel to the shunts, not just shorting the shunts.
I love how Tech Jesus say's "EXTRA THICC"
I'm sure that it's probably been seen or already commented on, but there seems to be some glare hitting Steve's face around time mark 2:09.