How to do SOUND DEADENING for FREE: Van Conversion Build for Noise and Vibration Control - Van Tour
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- SOUND TREATMENT, or sound deadening, for noise and vibration control in your van is perhaps the biggest MYTH in camper van conversion (besides van conversion insulation), perpetuated by the relentless flow of van builds broadcast across social media. In this video, I explain why sound treatment may NOT be necessary in a normal camper van build, especially one with insulation, and how to do road noise and vibration sound deadening during the process of doing the conversion to make the camper van into a livable space. We explain it here, next, we'll tackle the misconceptions around van build insulation.
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0:00 Is sound deadening treatment necessary in a van life build?
1:04 Vibration: the first type of noise
3:41 Road Noise: the second type of noise
4:59 Why is sound deadening treatment so common in van builds?
5:31 Engine noise and the cab
6:52 Dealing with noise while travelling
7:35 Going forward 
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They saw another couple who saw another couple who saw another couple use it ! 🤣😂 love it !
I like how your philosophy comes through in this video, that rather than grab the shiny product that everyone uses to solve a problem (which may or may or may not be real), we should take a moment and observe what we have and what we need and then apply our knowhow
Thanks for your support!
We seriously seriously need ideas to make our vans more economical with these high gas prices
I searched - Do you need sound deadening…) and you popped up. I just bought a Van and asked myself why? Thanks for agreeing with me lol!
It's such a myth, unfortunately fueled by social media... good on you for questioning it and digging in on the research!
Emperor’s New Clothes Syndrome comes to mind when I think of everyone oohing and aahing over keeping up with the Jones’.
To some people if you don’t spend money it’s not good enough 😩
Love your no nonsense but very logical and sensible approach to your information and videos. Keep up the great work 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks so much for you kind words of support!
⭐ *I received some feedback from a retired car designer who watched my video ⭐ Here's what he said: 👉 "As an ex automotive engineer. I can tell you he's right. We spent sooo much time on lowering NVH. Like he said... Adding more does help. But not as much as you think. For road noise, tires play a huge part in NVH. Invest in some good tires. Read reviews to find ones that are quiet if the road noise bothers you while traveling. Now that said. If you're adding material for insulation and it's just a benefit that you're getting less NVH...add away. We didn't do much insulation stuff because most people don't live in their vans. When they were in them they were driving with the heat or AC on." - Kris H*
This was good to know! And funny 😄
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Used to be at the American Standard steel bath tub factory years ago. You know how much of that tar sound deadener they put on the bottom of the tub? Two 4"x4" stick-on pads. It only works for certain vibration frequencies. You don't need much.
That's interesting! The corrugated van floor acts as a sound deadener in addition to providing strength... but I think a corrugated bathtub might be a little uncomfortable which is why they don't take that approach. Ha!
Truthful video! Always thumbs up!!!
Much appreciated!
Love your videos
This is so true. Of course an empty cargo van is going to have road noise. As soon as I started putting stuff in my van (mattress, shelf, storage totes filled with stuff) even though I did nothing to the walls or ceiling just a floor covering, the road noise diminished. I'm also more focused on the scenery, my driving and other drivers than I am road noise.
Thanks for the comment. You and many others have proven this true by observing the the significant change from empty van to fully equipped with all your stuff.
this was very informative! here from redit!
Glad it was helpful! More videos coming so stay tuned!
Nope don't agree. I took several db readings before and after sound dampening.Got a nearly 10db difference and the insulation against heat and cold was also vastly better.
How do I stop the rain drips from being under trees they are resonating through entire van metal. How best to stop the vibrations on roof/celing?
I don't think that there is a feasible way to do this - when in a house you can even hear rain hitting the roof. But there IS a simple, easy, and inexpensive alternate approach that will definitely help if you're trying to sleep - use ear plugs! They work fantastic, but you might have to try a few to find the design that best fits your ears.
built a few vans, don't agree with this, partly true but having a mattress, doesn't stop noise getting in a van get real man.
…well you might be a little crazy, but I’m enjoying your videos.
I appreciate that
So you don't believe sound deadening can decrease the sound created by rain or hail falling on a van in the night? It feels a little hard to believe that adding a little extra density to the van walls and roof wouldn't decrease the amount of sound pollution from rain and hail. Although I do presume insulation material that is in contact with the metal surfaces would also decrease vibration waves created by rain and hail.
You can hear rain and hail inside of homes and buildings, so expecting something different in a van is simply not a realistic expectation. The most effective and realistic solution during rain and hail is to put in ear plugs.
Interesting. Also because I read a good blog and those two people I believe wrote that they didn't "sound deaden" their build.
The work is easy and the price is negligible, but if it really doesn't make that much of a difference - then it's an unnecessary job and cost.
The insulation itself probably plays quite a bit the role of sound deadening.
Possibly the more interesting function of sticking a material to van's metallic walls, could be sticking something that would create an air gap between the metallic walls and the insulation material. For example I'm thinking of wool as insulation material - it could probably benefit from an air gap between it and the walls. Metallic walls are really good at creating condensation, and organic insulation materials better not see condensation.
Why don't you record a video of your van going down the road instead of parked at the curb? Is it because it's too loud in the back?
Many of my "non-build" videos that capture my actual living in the van (the ones in my "Van Life Adventures" playlist) have driving clips in them in addition to the usual lunacy I attempt exploring the outdoors 😆
@@SwellerVanDweller As a van owner, I can already see from the bare sheetmetal floor, roof, wheel wells etc, that's its going to be pretty loud in there. Without anything to absorb the sound, it reverberate around inside like an empty shipping container . On the highway, you probably have to shout at the person next to you. I'm not advocating for expensive snake oil products, but you need SOMETHING. That's why the factory fills the wall and floor with jute on passenger models.
I understand your skepticism. You're correct that you do need SOMETHING - an empty van shell is noisy. The primary point of the video is that all the items and objects added to your van in a normal build adequately serve the purpose be that SOMETHING that absorbs and dampens sound waves to the point that what does remain in the cargo area is negligible compared to noise generated in the CAB while driving - engine noise and road noise transferred from the front tires. This is all in the video.
But I don't agree with cynical tone of the video. Nobody is superior, nobody is inferior.
And cargo vans are not built for someone to live in it, so it really isn't an argument that "the manufacturer already did the sound deadening". Maybe if we asked a manufacturer about people converting their product into a living space, he would've actually said "then more sound deadening could be useful".