0:43 Sorry but that's not how the source of vibration come into contact, go outside the cabin and hit the wheel, the shock will vibrate the suspension spring and the whole cabin will resonate.
Thank you for showing all the details and how to get the sound deadening material to conform to the shape of the area that it's being applied! I did not find any links to the Norco products below your video.
Seems nice... looks it's costing much more than others. Anyway, it would be super nice to have sound insulation on driver cabin than back of the van. Most of us will spend tremendous amount of hours in driving and that's where sound deadening will be needed the most. Driving 80 mph with tall van make significant noise and it is stressful, I searched to replace windshield with acoustic glass but wasn't available.
I agree that the cab and engine compartment noise needs to be addressed better in most van builds, but a lot of noise does come from the back of the van and finds its way up front as well. The whole thing is a big resonating metal box.
Just a idea,I also use PU expansion form spray into the body structure box frame. It's reduced sound transmission and improve structure strength also omitting heat transfer.
@@zelowatch30 this is why. a. there will be some cabinet cover up the wheel well, b. unlikely anyone sleeping in the back while the van in motion c. nobody knocking on the wheel well like he demo'd.
@@AZRockRunner Yep, honestly i don't think it will do much for road noise but I'm no expert. He'd have to do it on the exterior part of the wheel wells as well in order for it to really insulate road noise.
Really enjoyed your vid and tips. Gotta say tho, with those kilmat logos on the side there, you kind of blew your cover on the Noico love. Good video regardless.
Noico Silver (or Noico Black) are designed to deaden sound. It's a much thicker material than Noico Red. Noico Red is closed cell foam, which deadens higher frequency sounds and it insulates any heat or cold from the metal of the vehicle (in this case the wheel well) from being conducted. For exterior walls, we use 1 layer of Noico Silver, 1 Layer of Noico Red, 1 Layer of Thinsulate, and one layer of Refletix. IMHO, that's the most effective insulation you can get in a 2 inch thick wall, and there's a video about it here: ruclips.net/video/zxQ4vZRXoqo/видео.html
That amount of butyl is overkill and heavy! Use it just until metal do not rezonate but use other ligther materials to insulatation (noise and temperature).
Noico isn't butyl, it's asphalt. Not good in heat because it off gasses and smells stinky. I'm using Dynamat and Kilmat, which are butyl and less toxic. I'm not overdoing it because I have to watch the weight.
That's quite comical when an American attempts to speak metric, more specifically;- 80mm is more than three inches I think the material might be 8mm. The black material, Norco Red, was quotes as 150mm which is 6" thick and I'm thinking that it may well be 1.5mm. Sorry Buddy I couldn't take you seriously but the demo was sound . . . PS I wouldn't shave with a craft knife i.e. your idea of a 'razor blade'.
Haha! Too right, mate! I lived in Australia for a while. Long enough to where I'm never sure which side of a hallway to walk down anymore. I'm the guy who bumps into you at airports and theme parks! Celsius, metric, kilo (meters and grams) are all too sensible for me to grasp!
0:43 Sorry but that's not how the source of vibration come into contact, go outside the cabin and hit the wheel, the shock will vibrate the suspension spring and the whole cabin will resonate.
Thank you for showing all the details and how to get the sound deadening material to conform to the shape of the area that it's being applied! I did not find any links to the Norco products below your video.
Congrats, good job!!
Cheers from Spain!!
Wonderful vid ❤👍
Is there a vid where it shows the whole vehicle acousticed?
Seems nice... looks it's costing much more than others.
Anyway, it would be super nice to have sound insulation on driver cabin than back of the van.
Most of us will spend tremendous amount of hours in driving and that's where sound deadening will
be needed the most. Driving 80 mph with tall van make significant noise and it is stressful, I searched to replace windshield with acoustic glass but wasn't available.
I agree that the cab and engine compartment noise needs to be addressed better in most van builds, but a lot of noise does come from the back of the van and finds its way up front as well. The whole thing is a big resonating metal box.
Just a idea,I also use PU expansion form spray into the body structure box frame.
It's reduced sound transmission and improve structure strength also omitting heat transfer.
I just did my car doors and trunk! Great stuff and very friendly to handle! But why klimat vs noico?
Best sound insulation video. You went overboard on the wheels
I agree. It's way beyond the point of diminished return. Just adding weight and reducing space.
@@AZRockRunner Really think so? I mean he did a 1 and 2 insulation but didn't need to double on the deadening material.
@@zelowatch30 this is why. a. there will be some cabinet cover up the wheel well, b. unlikely anyone sleeping in the back while the van in motion c. nobody knocking on the wheel well like he demo'd.
@@AZRockRunner Yep, honestly i don't think it will do much for road noise but I'm no expert. He'd have to do it on the exterior part of the wheel wells as well in order for it to really insulate road noise.
Really enjoyed your vid and tips. Gotta say tho, with those kilmat logos on the side there, you kind of blew your cover on the Noico love. Good video regardless.
haha! Started with kilmat, learned some things, moved on to Noico.
Why can't you just use the Noico red? How did the noico red to with reducing heat?
Noico Silver (or Noico Black) are designed to deaden sound. It's a much thicker material than Noico Red. Noico Red is closed cell foam, which deadens higher frequency sounds and it insulates any heat or cold from the metal of the vehicle (in this case the wheel well) from being conducted. For exterior walls, we use 1 layer of Noico Silver, 1 Layer of Noico Red, 1 Layer of Thinsulate, and one layer of Refletix. IMHO, that's the most effective insulation you can get in a 2 inch thick wall, and there's a video about it here: ruclips.net/video/zxQ4vZRXoqo/видео.html
@@HackMyVan thanks! All those layers definitely add up. Trying to be as intentional with the installation as possible to not overspend
Noico red is a completely different thing.
8 and 15 mm thick
That amount of butyl is overkill and heavy! Use it just until metal do not rezonate but use other ligther materials to insulatation (noise and temperature).
Noico isn't butyl, it's asphalt. Not good in heat because it off gasses and smells stinky. I'm using Dynamat and Kilmat, which are butyl and less toxic. I'm not overdoing it because I have to watch the weight.
Why is weight a big deal? It’s not like carrying 2 spare tires.
And he's doing the wheel wells with it which are already rigid.🤦♂️
@@JedTaneoReally!!?? Because every single ounce of anything added onto/into the van .. ADDS UP!!! Just like coins in a cookie jar!!
That's quite comical when an American attempts to speak metric, more specifically;- 80mm is more than three inches I think the material might be 8mm. The black material, Norco Red, was quotes as 150mm which is 6" thick and I'm thinking that it may well be 1.5mm. Sorry Buddy I couldn't take you seriously but the demo was sound . . . PS I wouldn't shave with a craft knife i.e. your idea of a 'razor blade'.
80 mil is NOT 80 mm. It's 0.080 inches. A "mil" is a thousandth of an inch for us Americans.
Haha! Too right, mate! I lived in Australia for a while. Long enough to where I'm never sure which side of a hallway to walk down anymore. I'm the guy who bumps into you at airports and theme parks! Celsius, metric, kilo (meters and grams) are all too sensible for me to grasp!
Wonderful vid ❤👍
Is there a vid where it shows the whole vehicle acousticed?