I have both milwaukee and dewalt pin nailers and i really like both of them. I love the 20v dewalt one cause it can shoot forever on 1 charge, m12 nailer however would run out on me and i would have to charge it through out the job. I love the lightweight of the m12 one and how it sounds when it shoots. Just feels good to hear those pops. Both nailers in my opinion are great tools for anyone who does finish carpentry.
Have you guys seen the Makita 23 guage pin nailer. It's smaller, narrower, and very compact. Power can also be adjusted easily on the fly. Not sure why anyone would consider this bulky Dewalt (unless you want to stick to the battery platform), especially seeing as you can't get into narrower spaces. Just putting it out there.
@@arnoldwiggins I'm a Makita guy, and I'll tell you the performance of the Makita sucks. I'd love for them to fix their cordless nailer line because I'm invested deep in the blue tools. I know I can get a battery adapter and use any tool I want, but what I want is a good Makita nailer line.
Nice to see an addition to battery powered 23 gauge guns. Can't wait to try it. So far we've been using Ryobi and Milwaukee pin nailers. Pretty happy with both. Ryobi is big and ugly but shoots good and it continued to shoot good until it completely broke after about 2 years of use. Milwaukee shoots like a dream for about 4 months until driver tip gets worn, then it won't drive nails all the way in consistently, because I think driver slips off a nail at some point. We're on third Milwaukee gun at this point, shoot amazing but doesn't last under heavy abuse. Because of Nitrogen cylinder inside the gun, Milwaukee will not sell you a driver to replace it yourself and you have to either ship it back to them or take it to a certified service center. Which means downtime when you need pin nailer now, so that's how we end up with a pile of used up Milwaukee guns. I will say, when laying staircases from waterproof luxury vinyl, we put these guns through tremendous abuse. LVP like Christina Collection can be extremely hard for pin nails to punch through and sometimes we also get bent nails because we hit a nail head in the subfloor. Combination of those things put a lot of wear and tear on the driver tip. So driver lasting 4 months laying staircases from hard material will probably last you years if you use it to nail soft woods like trims in finish carpentry.
DeWalt is late to this party. The M12 is a very nice tool. I've personally been running the Ryobi for almost 3 years and the Metabo for a couple months. I actually like the Ryobis action and double trigger better than the Metabos safety. Have you used a 21g nailer Rob? I have a Grex 21g that I use for built-ins and cabinet crown. It's a great tweener nailer. I wish I bought the Senco with the double trigger safety rather than the Grex press tip safety. As you know the press tips like to shift small material because glue is slippery.
I am on the fence on getting the dewalt or the m12. But this in depth review definately helped. You covered something, other 10+ reviewers never mentioned. I just wish Dewalt comes out with a smaller 12v pin nailer. That would be awesome.
Isnt it about time to do a 23 gauge pin nailer shootout? Pretty much all of the big players have products out, and how are we to know which is best if you don' t torture them for us? Thanks for what you do!
Ease of accuracy is #1 smaller size is nice but mainly for storage. I’ll probably wait a bit a I don’t need a cordless pin nailer my pneumatic is fine but this Dewalt looks like a good tool.
Great video. I’ve just ordered the Metabo HPT as Acme tools are offering it at $129 with additional money off depending how much you spend. With the additional discount it’s at $99 so went With that for its outstanding value
Milwaukee is the king for me. Late out of bed dewalt I wanted an age and nothing. Finally I bought the Milwaukee and had it imported from the USA to uk. No going back now I love it.
Saw someone post that the Milwaukee framing nailer was trash -- they're dead wrong. I run ALL DeWalt, and have all their nailers. The flywheel is a bit annoying, but I find their trim nailers to be fantastic. Just had the chance to use the Milwaukee for a day. The milwaukee framing nailer is SUBSTANTIALLY better than the DeWalt. More powerful, no flywheel -- it's just superior in every way possible. As for the 18, 16 and 15, I still like my yellow. Thanks for the review of the pin nailer, Rob.
Great video as always Rob. I wondered if you would have felt the same about the size and weight if the dewalt had have come out before you got the milwaukee, would it have changed your opinion?
Bought mine bare for £160 🇬🇧. Feels light and compact . Included was 400+ Bostitch pins , so had a play . Depth adjustment only needs configuring once or twice depending on the wood . Left virtually no mark - easily sanded down . Safety feature a bit annoying .
I’m on the fence between choosing this one or the Milwaukee. I’ve got an m12 changer but not batteries as I don’t own a single m12 tool only m18 ones. On the other hand I have several freaky tools and batteries.
I totally agree with you about the red rubber band under the jam release lever. Was going to purchase this pin nailer at Home Depot. They had it on display, so I started to fiddle around with it. As soon as I lifted the jam release lever and saw the red rubber band (before I saw this video), I was turned off. I looked at it carefully to see if it could be replaced easily, and it did not appear to be the case. The red rubber band was definitely a DEAL-BREAKER for me. I looked at the Ryobi P318 pin nailer, saw that it didn't have a depth adjustment, and no tool-free jam lever. However, it was on sale for $190.00 Canadian, or about $135.00 U.S. So, I decided to give at shot, and purchased it. Even without a depth adjustment control, it always sinks the nail to the right depth, regardless of whether it's soft or hardwood (I've used it on pine, cedar, walnut, oak, maple, mahogany, etc.). Was a great decision, and have had no issues or regrets with it so far.
So how did it hold up over the year? I’m looking in to buying one and would like to hear your feedback over the year, I live over seas, I’m on the Dewalt platform, but the DCN623 is not available here, I’ll be back in the US in about 2 weeks and I would hate to get one and have problems getting parts or repair
I'd be surprised if the red ring wasn't silicone rather that nitrile rubber. Temperatures shouldn't be a problem, but its durability remains to be seen, I guess. Odd that it needs to be there at all.
I think their framer and 16 guage nailer are the best .The flywheel mechanism is the best I've used ,not bulky and easy to maintain, the Milwaukee framer is a piece of crap imo.
My biggest concern is how rapid I can shoot nails, how often it jams and how often it fails to fully sink a nail. One other thing is being able to comfortably hold the gun upside down and shoot nails. My 18g Senco is flawless except it feels weird holding it upside down to shoot nails.
Interesting. I am a DIY type person for most of my smaller projects. If you were replacing a small piece of 3/4 inch round would you use a pin nailer or an 18 gauge one?
Thanks Rob! Great video as always. I’m in both the Milwaukee M12 and DeWalt 20 volt battery platforms. Which of the two pin nailers do you currently prefer?
Thank you for a great review Brad. Would have been good to compare to Makita's 23 guage pin nailer. I think it's far superior to both the Dewalt and Milwaukee. Much better proposition. I feel like Dewalt went back in time here when comparing it to the Makita 18v DPT353Z / XTP02Z or even the 40v. Just had to call that out. Cheers.
Agreed - there are so many negative reviews of the Makita 12V/18V pin nailers that I I wouldn't touch Makita's 12V/18V pin nailers. At $550 for the Makita 40V pin nailer kit and $250 per extra 40V battery, I'd certainly expect that Makita iron out the 12V/18V problems in their 40V unit.
About a year late for me! I had all Dewalt cordless tools, until I needed nail guns. NO WAY was I going to buy the fly wheel nailers. So now I've got Milwaukee 23, 18, 15 ga and framing nailer.
fly wheel is better. these gas driven tools have a limited life span. one day they just stop working. As a professional, this is unacceptable. I think dewalt has the best cordless finish guns even with the slightly delayed trigger action.
@@joeeley5354 I can not stand the delay, or the bulkiness of the dewalt guns. Even my Milwaukee’s I find annoyingly large, and they’re far slimmer. I’d rather buy a new gun every one or two years, than deal with a gun that annoys me every single day. As a professional, this is unacceptable. Also, Dewalt choose to do gas driven with this 23ga. Not fly wheel.
It’s a monster- huge fail! Looks like a Ryobi guy designed it. “ barely noticeable nail hole” - I guess if ur half blind. The tip and light are nice . I got sick of waiting and bought the Milwaukee kit for $ 199. Excellent tool. In general I’d say Dewalt is falling behind Milwaukee in the nail gun areana
This is a horrible gun. I have to use a pin nailer daily servicing cabinets. This gun jams on every other nail larger than 3/4". Huge time waster clearing jams over and over and over. I gotta find another pin nailer i can rely on.
I have both milwaukee and dewalt pin nailers and i really like both of them. I love the 20v dewalt one cause it can shoot forever on 1 charge, m12 nailer however would run out on me and i would have to charge it through out the job. I love the lightweight of the m12 one and how it sounds when it shoots. Just feels good to hear those pops. Both nailers in my opinion are great tools for anyone who does finish carpentry.
Have you guys seen the Makita 23 guage pin nailer. It's smaller, narrower, and very compact. Power can also be adjusted easily on the fly. Not sure why anyone would consider this bulky Dewalt (unless you want to stick to the battery platform), especially seeing as you can't get into narrower spaces. Just putting it out there.
@@arnoldwiggins I'm a Makita guy, and I'll tell you the performance of the Makita sucks. I'd love for them to fix their cordless nailer line because I'm invested deep in the blue tools. I know I can get a battery adapter and use any tool I want, but what I want is a good Makita nailer line.
The Makita 23 g cordless nailer is junk.. misfires all the time and leaves pins sticking out. I own it but never use it.. will be getting this dewalt
Always appreciate your honest and experienced opinion on tool reviews. Thanks for doing what you do.
Thx Doug
Great review, I was in HD about to buy it the other day but they couldn’t find it, kinda glad I waited to hear about it from you first.
Nice to see an addition to battery powered 23 gauge guns. Can't wait to try it. So far we've been using Ryobi and Milwaukee pin nailers. Pretty happy with both. Ryobi is big and ugly but shoots good and it continued to shoot good until it completely broke after about 2 years of use. Milwaukee shoots like a dream for about 4 months until driver tip gets worn, then it won't drive nails all the way in consistently, because I think driver slips off a nail at some point. We're on third Milwaukee gun at this point, shoot amazing but doesn't last under heavy abuse. Because of Nitrogen cylinder inside the gun, Milwaukee will not sell you a driver to replace it yourself and you have to either ship it back to them or take it to a certified service center. Which means downtime when you need pin nailer now, so that's how we end up with a pile of used up Milwaukee guns. I will say, when laying staircases from waterproof luxury vinyl, we put these guns through tremendous abuse. LVP like Christina Collection can be extremely hard for pin nails to punch through and sometimes we also get bent nails because we hit a nail head in the subfloor. Combination of those things put a lot of wear and tear on the driver tip. So driver lasting 4 months laying staircases from hard material will probably last you years if you use it to nail soft woods like trims in finish carpentry.
Means as a homeowner it will last me forever😂
We love this more than our DeWalt pneumatic nailer!
DeWalt is late to this party. The M12 is a very nice tool. I've personally been running the Ryobi for almost 3 years and the Metabo for a couple months. I actually like the Ryobis action and double trigger better than the Metabos safety. Have you used a 21g nailer Rob? I have a Grex 21g that I use for built-ins and cabinet crown. It's a great tweener nailer. I wish I bought the Senco with the double trigger safety rather than the Grex press tip safety. As you know the press tips like to shift small material because glue is slippery.
Always an honest opinion from you Rob 👍🏽
I am on the fence on getting the dewalt or the m12. But this in depth review definately helped. You covered something, other 10+ reviewers never mentioned.
I just wish Dewalt comes out with a smaller 12v pin nailer. That would be awesome.
Isnt it about time to do a 23 gauge pin nailer shootout? Pretty much all of the big players have products out, and how are we to know which is best if you don' t torture them for us? Thanks for what you do!
Hmmmmmm yes!
Ease of accuracy is #1 smaller size is nice but mainly for storage. I’ll probably wait a bit a I don’t need a cordless pin nailer my pneumatic is fine but this Dewalt looks like a good tool.
Great video. I’ve just ordered the Metabo HPT as Acme tools are offering it at $129 with additional money off depending how much you spend. With the additional discount it’s at $99 so went With that for its outstanding value
Miss DeWalt good video
Milwaukee is the king for me. Late out of bed dewalt I wanted an age and nothing. Finally I bought the Milwaukee and had it imported from the USA to uk.
No going back now I love it.
Saw someone post that the Milwaukee framing nailer was trash -- they're dead wrong. I run ALL DeWalt, and have all their nailers. The flywheel is a bit annoying, but I find their trim nailers to be fantastic. Just had the chance to use the Milwaukee for a day. The milwaukee framing nailer is SUBSTANTIALLY better than the DeWalt. More powerful, no flywheel -- it's just superior in every way possible. As for the 18, 16 and 15, I still like my yellow. Thanks for the review of the pin nailer, Rob.
Great review ,you nailed it. I was pinned to my seat watching.
Great video as always Rob. I wondered if you would have felt the same about the size and weight if the dewalt had have come out before you got the milwaukee, would it have changed your opinion?
Bought mine bare for £160 🇬🇧. Feels light and compact . Included was 400+ Bostitch pins , so had a play . Depth adjustment only needs configuring once or twice depending on the wood . Left virtually no mark - easily sanded down . Safety feature a bit annoying .
I’m on the fence between choosing this one or the Milwaukee. I’ve got an m12 changer but not batteries as I don’t own a single m12 tool only m18 ones. On the other hand I have several freaky tools and batteries.
I love my Milwaukee pin nailer but the trigger on this gun looks nice. Im not a fan of the Milwaukee safety.
Looks like a cool tool I may have to get soon
I have the crown stapler and I love it but it is big. I am in the Dewalt battery system so this might be in my future.
Nice addition to your arsenal
I totally agree with you about the red rubber band under the jam release lever.
Was going to purchase this pin nailer at Home Depot. They had it on display, so I started to fiddle around with it. As soon as I lifted the jam release lever and saw the red rubber band (before I saw this video), I was turned off. I looked at it carefully to see if it could be replaced easily, and it did not appear to be the case. The red rubber band was definitely a DEAL-BREAKER for me. I looked at the Ryobi P318 pin nailer, saw that it didn't have a depth adjustment, and no tool-free jam lever. However, it was on sale for $190.00 Canadian, or about $135.00 U.S. So, I decided to give at shot, and purchased it. Even without a depth adjustment control, it always sinks the nail to the right depth, regardless of whether it's soft or hardwood (I've used it on pine, cedar, walnut, oak, maple, mahogany, etc.). Was a great decision, and have had no issues or regrets with it so far.
So how did it hold up over the year? I’m looking in to buying one and would like to hear your feedback over the year, I live over seas, I’m on the Dewalt platform, but the DCN623 is not available here, I’ll be back in the US in about 2 weeks and I would hate to get one and have problems getting parts or repair
Still going!
Good evening, can this pinner work with hard wood, does it work well or is it only for soft wood?
I want to buy it here from Brazil but it has to work on hard wood
@@paulorobertoborges9281 both
I'd be surprised if the red ring wasn't silicone rather that nitrile rubber. Temperatures shouldn't be a problem, but its durability remains to be seen, I guess. Odd that it needs to be there at all.
That’s a good point, probably is
Are DeWalt 18v batteries interchangeable with this gun?
Thanks. 🙏🏼
when will DeWalt provide that in the 18g platform?
So this DeWalt pin nailer is spring-loaded, not pneumatic?
Now if they could just redesign the other nailers to do away with the fly wheel. The recoil is the bane of Dewalt nailer guns.
I think their framer and 16 guage nailer are the best .The flywheel mechanism is the best I've used ,not bulky and easy to maintain, the Milwaukee framer is a piece of crap imo.
Can’t wait for dewalt to come out with gen 2 cordless brad nailer/other gen 2 nailers
Me too
My biggest concern is how rapid I can shoot nails, how often it jams and how often it fails to fully sink a nail. One other thing is being able to comfortably hold the gun upside down and shoot nails. My 18g Senco is flawless except it feels weird holding it upside down to shoot nails.
Interesting. I am a DIY type person for most of my smaller projects. If you were replacing a small piece of 3/4 inch round would you use a pin nailer or an 18 gauge one?
23 pin nailer.
And use 1&3/8” pins
But if you are asking which to buy? Between 18g or 23g? The 18g can do waaaaaay more because most shoot 5/8” nails to 2” nails.
Brad or finish nailer Depends on what your nailing to
@@ConcordCarpenter Thanks
Thank you
Thanks Rob! Great video as always. I’m in both the Milwaukee M12 and DeWalt 20 volt battery platforms. Which of the two pin nailers do you currently prefer?
Milwaukees size
Hmm maybe a time for a comparison video? Wink wink :) makita has 12v and a new 40v pin nailer and Milwaukee is also there
Did you talk about the driving mechanism (hammer vs/or gas) or did I miss it??
No I didnt
for my brad nailer dewalt the rubber broke taking the hammer out as it was worn out not good
It’s good quality 👍
I want one!
We need a 21 gauge!
First! Time for a 23gauge comparison video?
Thank you for a great review Brad. Would have been good to compare to Makita's 23 guage pin nailer. I think it's far superior to both the Dewalt and Milwaukee. Much better proposition. I feel like Dewalt went back in time here when comparing it to the Makita 18v DPT353Z / XTP02Z or even the 40v. Just had to call that out. Cheers.
Agreed - there are so many negative reviews of the Makita 12V/18V pin nailers that I I wouldn't touch Makita's 12V/18V pin nailers. At $550 for the Makita 40V pin nailer kit and $250 per extra 40V battery, I'd certainly expect that Makita iron out the 12V/18V problems in their 40V unit.
Will these take the 20v 5ah batteries? I’ve just ordered one to the uk from America and didn’t really do enough research I got too excited lol
Yes . Any 20volt max battery is compatible . Got mine for £160.
Yeah, that pin nailer is way too big. I'll stick with my little Arrow pneumatic pin nailer.
Unlike the Milwaukee version, the Dewalt pin nailer is a brushless design. I wonder if that has anything to do with the size and weight.
I have the Matabo 23 gauge cordless nailer, it’s much smaller than the DeWalt, which looks cumbersome and oversized for its purpose, no thanks.
When you hit your 50's a lb difference is a deal killer to me. Milwaukee is a lb lighter. That's all I need to know.
I work with alot of 50+ firefighters and they are more capable then the young guys….just saying!
@@Burritosarebetterthantacos That's great to her actually !
About a year late for me! I had all Dewalt cordless tools, until I needed nail guns. NO WAY was I going to buy the fly wheel nailers. So now I've got Milwaukee 23, 18, 15 ga and framing nailer.
fly wheel is better. these gas driven tools have a limited life span. one day they just stop working. As a professional, this is unacceptable.
I think dewalt has the best cordless finish guns even with the slightly delayed trigger action.
@@joeeley5354 I can not stand the delay, or the bulkiness of the dewalt guns. Even my Milwaukee’s I find annoyingly large, and they’re far slimmer.
I’d rather buy a new gun every one or two years, than deal with a gun that annoys me every single day. As a professional, this is unacceptable.
Also, Dewalt choose to do gas driven with this 23ga. Not fly wheel.
I have the craftsman version it looks exactly the same except for the color
Is the craftsman any good?? Thanks
@@darrenroche9225 It's excellent
@@loucifer4205 thanks a lot for the reply I will buy it when it's back on Amazon, I live in Ireland but they will deliver here thanks again
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It’s a monster- huge fail! Looks like a Ryobi guy designed it. “ barely noticeable nail hole” - I guess if ur half blind. The tip and light are nice . I got sick of waiting and bought the Milwaukee kit for $ 199. Excellent tool. In general I’d say Dewalt is falling behind Milwaukee in the nail gun areana
This seems just way too big for a pin nailer. Ah the convenience of cordless. I'll stick with my PC PIN100 and a compressor.
This is a horrible gun. I have to use a pin nailer daily servicing cabinets. This gun jams on every other nail larger than 3/4". Huge time waster clearing jams over and over and over. I gotta find another pin nailer i can rely on.
M12 pin nailer looks better.