I've always said that Genesis has sorta become what Infiniti was 10-20 years ago, a true desirable competitor to the German brands. I don't know what happened to Infiniti, something really went south with Infiniti somewhere in the 2010s, but Genesis has really gained that same credibility that Infiniti once had in the Luxury market, it's a shame cause I used to own a 2004 G35 sedan and it was a great car, they've really just lost their way.
Owned a G35S and believe the exact same … definitely preparing to lease a Genesis now because of how unfortunately stale & outdated Infiniti has become.
@@donteadoss They've just fallen so far behind their competitors, even Lexus has gone through and modernized basically their entire lineup of vehicles, from their entry level sedan the ES all the way up to their flagship vehicles like the LX, and unlike Infiniti, Lexus has also introduced new models in their lineup such as the TX and LC and they've completely redesigned the GX. Infiniti hasn't done any significant changes to their vehicles for a long time.
@@ZoomZoom356 Agreed, and funny enough I went from Lexus to Infiniti because Lexus models were mundane in the early 2000s and now eerily the tables have turned. I considered a Q50 or 60 Red Sport but wasn’t going to spend sticker for those old platforms and the hideously obsolete two-screen layout.
It's funny you mention that, cause I remember the mid 2000's-10's where the roads in my city were completely populated with G35/G37s sedans and coupes. I've never driven one of them, but I've always thought they were cool because of the stock sound alone.
@@itshakimjr yeah I suppose I just didn't like how it felt like he was making the video his, something i'd noticed in topher's other videos too but I guess i was just overthinking it
The NEW Genesis dealerships are nice as hell, regarding your comment about the dealership experience. One was just built near me and the architecture was beautiful. Even had an atrium inside of it lol. The lineup was really good and customer service was good as well. Everyone dressed nicely, polite and they had a nice lounge area where you can, if you’d like, watch the mechanic work on your car because of the everything being glass inside the building. Plenty of drinks in the lounge area as well with nice couches.
This is the best looking SUV on the market imo. Agree, amazing road presence and really want one. They will likely have a hybrid version coming soon. Awesome review!
I feel this interior is better than the Germans (and better than the 2025 refreshed GV80 interior that’s adopting the single wide screen). They just need to fine tune the powertrains because upgrade the 3.5T should beat the base engine X5 40i but it doesn’t.
Great review guys! I agree this is the best I heard the Lexicon system sound. I have a 2011 Hyundai Genesis sedan 3.8 Tech pkg with 17 speakers. I love it. 👍🏻
Gorgeous car. I'm loving the lighter interiors. I was reeeally getting sick of seeing black interiors in everything. But the zonk is the black rims. I absolutely hate black rims and grills. Everything else is a win.
I want to note that it would appear that there was an OTA update for android auto(potentially car play too) that allows you to use it wirelessly as I just got a 2023 genesis gv80 3.5TT prestige and i found that it supports wireless android auto.
i can see them IR lights in person...ive driven newer cars with them and i can at night see those little red lights...and they should put rear steer on this and FLIR with the anti dazzle headlights now that they are finally legal here...as they shouldve been from 2004...
Have the dealerships experiences been good for Genesis? A lot of people in the comments on Savagegeese videos have been saying that they’re usually bad. So bad they didn’t buy a Genesis.
I tried to buy GV70 once. I'd get all kinds of excuses from multiple dealers on why I couldn't test-drive one. I even made a damn appointment with the salesman a week before and still got told I couldn't test drive it because "it hasn't been through service yet". I'm not making this up. I think it's because I'm a young engineer, but I never had an issue with other luxury brands test-driving cars. However, my parents and older family friends don't experience the issues I have. The Hyundai dealers just really don't know how to handle Genesis. They make excellent cars, but I won't buy one on principle now. I'd go straight to the Lexus dealer now.
I wish that Genesis will come to more EU countries with these prices, they would hit quite hard the competition! The only thing that I don’t like about this Genesis brand is this kind of steering wheel, I hope they will come up with a more sportier steering wheel option.
The X5's power and drivetrains are better for sure, and the B58 engine is a feat of reliability, efficiency, and power. However, the Genesis isn't that far behind, but is a whole tier above the X5 in visual design. When I get into the X5, I feel like it's a toy compared to the GV80, which feels so much more adult and refined.
I really gotta wonder what 3D shit looks like to normal people beyond just being slightly wiggly and blurry. I'll never know, just like I'll never know what red is actually like :/
I’d be extremely nervous to own a car with mat paint . Ammo NYC said it’s extremely delicate and once it’s scratched that’s game over as it can’t be buffed out or removed
My father has the sedan version G80. The interior is gorgeous, yes. But it is not manufactured to the same standard of quality as a Bimmer or Audi (Lexus, A6, 7 series,etc) IMHO. After three years of ownership the interior is falling apart. The leather upholstery is separating from the plastic (behind the seat) it's attached to. The plastic thing where the seat controls are (attached to the side of the seat) are is also separating from the leather seat. He is also having AC controller issues. He babies the car and lives in a mild climate (California coast). The interior reminds me of a cheap "homage" Rolex you buy at a street vendor on Canal Street. Caveat emptor. This is a lease only.
yea :/ I knew there was shortcuts... damn sucks that the interior is falling apart... my XC40 has been through the BEACH. RAINY DAYS, EXTREME HEAT and WINTER COLD AND ICE and still doing great!!! It's been parked outside and is now garage kept, sorry to hear about your dad's genesis... I thought for the price GENESIS is asking for..... smh youd think they would last longer than just 3 years :/
@@KuyaArbeeyeah. The Genesis cars are not built to last. They are disposable luxury vehicles. Are they good cars for the life of a lease? I guess. If you keep a car for over three years Genesis is a waste of money, IMHO.
@@SamLed1111Please take a look at older German cars, i.e 7-8 old cars vs 10 year old, let’s say a first Gen G80, you will see that you are wrong, I am speaking from experience, every single Mercedes i’ve been in rattles.
I really need to say this since it has become a consistent thing with you videos. Your camera is pointed way too low! I remember your brz videos back in the day where I could see the whole windshield and it felt like the focal point was the road. Personally I feel like in a video about a car, the focal point of your camera should be the road, not the steering wheel.
I love the exteriors of genesis but the interior needs work, especially for that price. I can't stand those long screens that are short. I also can't stand when they have the screens just sitting on the dash. I would way rather them be flush. Some don't look bad, like the Mercedes screen that connects to the gauge cluster, but most look terrible.
great car, see I think smaht pahk is the dumbest feature. why would you ever pull into a spot that you can’t get in or out off that’s too tight? When the people who are next to you try to get into their cars they would mess up your GV 80 getting in or key it. So it just makes 0 sense other than some edge cases.
I don´t know what else to say, simply this kind of lifestyle stinks, because for example here there are a lot of troubles without answers, I live in a chaotic city with multiples truoubles, for example, clogged sewers, insane people, garbage on the streets, contamination, dyrtiness, traffic jam, insecurity, chaos, unemployment, utility bills higher, that among many others things, however we have to put up with them, because there is no way out.
Your opinion will change when you look at the Genesis lower body materials and finishing materials. The lower body frame material was used at the level of GLE x5.
I've always said that Genesis has sorta become what Infiniti was 10-20 years ago, a true desirable competitor to the German brands. I don't know what happened to Infiniti, something really went south with Infiniti somewhere in the 2010s, but Genesis has really gained that same credibility that Infiniti once had in the Luxury market, it's a shame cause I used to own a 2004 G35 sedan and it was a great car, they've really just lost their way.
Owned a G35S and believe the exact same … definitely preparing to lease a Genesis now because of how unfortunately stale & outdated Infiniti has become.
@@donteadoss They've just fallen so far behind their competitors, even Lexus has gone through and modernized basically their entire lineup of vehicles, from their entry level sedan the ES all the way up to their flagship vehicles like the LX, and unlike Infiniti, Lexus has also introduced new models in their lineup such as the TX and LC and they've completely redesigned the GX. Infiniti hasn't done any significant changes to their vehicles for a long time.
A shame that Genesis’ dealerships don’t reflect the good quality of their cars according to some people.
@@ZoomZoom356 Agreed, and funny enough I went from Lexus to Infiniti because Lexus models were mundane in the early 2000s and now eerily the tables have turned. I considered a Q50 or 60 Red Sport but wasn’t going to spend sticker for those old platforms and the hideously obsolete two-screen layout.
It's funny you mention that, cause I remember the mid 2000's-10's where the roads in my city were completely populated with G35/G37s sedans and coupes. I've never driven one of them, but I've always thought they were cool because of the stock sound alone.
I like the dynamic duo between you two
i don't, i think substitute topher talks alot, almost unnecessarily so
@@ridgefrostBut he’s substitute topher. He’s A TOPHER. He’s a CHRIS. He should be talking. BRO WHO ARE YOU?
@@ridgefrost lmao what? bro its his job
@@ridgefrostbecause he already spend a week with the car so he probably know more things than Topher himself. That's why i guess!
@@itshakimjr yeah I suppose I just didn't like how it felt like he was making the video his, something i'd noticed in topher's other videos too but I guess i was just overthinking it
The NEW Genesis dealerships are nice as hell, regarding your comment about the dealership experience. One was just built near me and the architecture was beautiful. Even had an atrium inside of it lol. The lineup was really good and customer service was good as well. Everyone dressed nicely, polite and they had a nice lounge area where you can, if you’d like, watch the mechanic work on your car because of the everything being glass inside the building. Plenty of drinks in the lounge area as well with nice couches.
That interior and especially exterior make the vehicle look twice the price it actually is. No wonder I see GV80s all over the place where I live.
I am glad Genesis went for the classic luxury route. Interior is superior than MB in my opinion.
Not even close.
said no one ever lol this looks more like a luxury mazda then real luxury. I do love the genesis exterior but that steering wheel is just so damn ugly
@@JsBlazIN I said that. To me, a rolling night club on the wheel, fingerprint inducing piano black, big screen TV just doesn't scream luxury.
Mercedes interior is shit
they are going in that direction if they keep at it
I own this vehicle and I absolutely LOVE IT!!!!!! Best car I've ever owned.
hows the reliability?
More auto makers need to have green paint like this as an option. This car looks great in that green.
I like how you both pause to admire the Audi S4 in front of you. I do agree. Lol
This is the best looking SUV on the market imo. Agree, amazing road presence and really want one. They will likely have a hybrid version coming soon. Awesome review!
The Savagegeese reference was great.
I feel this interior is better than the Germans (and better than the 2025 refreshed GV80 interior that’s adopting the single wide screen). They just need to fine tune the powertrains because upgrade the 3.5T should beat the base engine X5 40i but it doesn’t.
By far. The 2025 interior looks plebeian, square and cheap, drastically downgraded from this, unfortunately.
It's gorgeous
Great review guys! I agree this is the best I heard the Lexicon system sound. I have a 2011 Hyundai Genesis sedan 3.8 Tech pkg with 17 speakers. I love it. 👍🏻
Gorgeous car. I'm loving the lighter interiors. I was reeeally getting sick of seeing black interiors in everything. But the zonk is the black rims. I absolutely hate black rims and grills. Everything else is a win.
There are used Bentaygas listed for sale that are less than the MSRP of this GV80, what a time to be alive
Maintaining that Bentaygas would prob cost you a boat load.
beautiful car, inside and out
Iterier - 👍
Exterier - 👎
Hahahaha “Smaht Pahk” I had to go look at that Super Bowl commercial 😂
I want to note that it would appear that there was an OTA update for android auto(potentially car play too) that allows you to use it wirelessly as I just got a 2023 genesis gv80 3.5TT prestige and i found that it supports wireless android auto.
Love everything about the truck…minus the steering wheel lol gotta change that
More cars need to copy genesis with the lane change cameras in the cluster. I wouldn't be surprised if they had that patented.
Looks nice especially that screen
i can see them IR lights in person...ive driven newer cars with them and i can at night see those little red lights...and they should put rear steer on this and FLIR with the anti dazzle headlights now that they are finally legal here...as they shouldve been from 2004...
That has not been our experience with past Bimmers. Never a rattle or creek after 10 years of ownership.
Have the dealerships experiences been good for Genesis? A lot of people in the comments on Savagegeese videos have been saying that they’re usually bad. So bad they didn’t buy a Genesis.
Same experience you will get from Hyundai. Not good.
I tried to buy GV70 once. I'd get all kinds of excuses from multiple dealers on why I couldn't test-drive one. I even made a damn appointment with the salesman a week before and still got told I couldn't test drive it because "it hasn't been through service yet". I'm not making this up. I think it's because I'm a young engineer, but I never had an issue with other luxury brands test-driving cars. However, my parents and older family friends don't experience the issues I have. The Hyundai dealers just really don't know how to handle Genesis. They make excellent cars, but I won't buy one on principle now. I'd go straight to the Lexus dealer now.
@@panzer_TZI’ve never heard of not being able to test drive for such a long time.
Not at all!!! They are rude and NASTY!!!! Love my GV80, but I dread taking it in for service!!!
I wish that Genesis will come to more EU countries with these prices, they would hit quite hard the competition! The only thing that I don’t like about this Genesis brand is this kind of steering wheel, I hope they will come up with a more sportier steering wheel option.
Sitting at 1500 rpm but at a glance thinking it's at redline would take some time to get used to.
Actual driving starts at 10:31 for anyone whose here for that
Thank you
Absolutely love that Green. 👍
Guess we need more eyeballs 😂 0:52
Definitely gonna need more eyeballs 👀😂
Who is this guy I see him in many car videos with you and other pov review videos does he own a dealership or something?
Think the 2025 refresh infotainment is worth the wait over this version?
Like the interior. Still looks a bit of decorative outside.
😢They stole the 4wd AWD Badge from Toyota. The 2005 sequoia Highlander. Same badge 23:02
Love my genesis!
Watched this on the TopherDrives Channel. Waiting to hear your thoughts 😅
I didnt think I would like the reverse tachometer...... that gauge cluster is extremely easy to live with though.
The X5's power and drivetrains are better for sure, and the B58 engine is a feat of reliability, efficiency, and power. However, the Genesis isn't that far behind, but is a whole tier above the X5 in visual design. When I get into the X5, I feel like it's a toy compared to the GV80, which feels so much more adult and refined.
You shoud try the new Santa Fe
does the center console in the rear fold up?
Why are the wipers on lol, driving me crazy
I love the Genesis SUV's, might get a GV70 for my next car or I might get an Audi SQ5.
Genesis will be the better vehicle for sure
Audi is way better. Better performance, better fit and finish. I can't believe so many people get duped into these Hyundais.
22:16 what the 🤣
I really gotta wonder what 3D shit looks like to normal people beyond just being slightly wiggly and blurry. I'll never know, just like I'll never know what red is actually like :/
I’d be extremely nervous to own a car with mat paint . Ammo NYC said it’s extremely delicate and once it’s scratched that’s game over as it can’t be buffed out or removed
My father has the sedan version G80. The interior is gorgeous, yes. But it is not manufactured to the same standard of quality as a Bimmer or Audi (Lexus, A6, 7 series,etc) IMHO. After three years of ownership the interior is falling apart. The leather upholstery is separating from the plastic (behind the seat) it's attached to. The plastic thing where the seat controls are (attached to the side of the seat) are is also separating from the leather seat. He is also having AC controller issues. He babies the car and lives in a mild climate (California coast). The interior reminds me of a cheap "homage" Rolex you buy at a street vendor on Canal Street. Caveat emptor. This is a lease only.
yea :/ I knew there was shortcuts... damn sucks that the interior is falling apart... my XC40 has been through the BEACH. RAINY DAYS, EXTREME HEAT and WINTER COLD AND ICE and still doing great!!! It's been parked outside and is now garage kept, sorry to hear about your dad's genesis... I thought for the price GENESIS is asking for..... smh youd think they would last longer than just 3 years :/
@@KuyaArbeeyeah. The Genesis cars are not built to last. They are disposable luxury vehicles. Are they good cars for the life of a lease? I guess. If you keep a car for over three years Genesis is a waste of money, IMHO.
@@SamLed1111Please take a look at older German cars, i.e 7-8 old cars vs 10 year old, let’s say a first Gen G80, you will see that you are wrong, I am speaking from experience, every single Mercedes i’ve been in rattles.
It's a Hyundai, what do you expect?
I really need to say this since it has become a consistent thing with you videos. Your camera is pointed way too low! I remember your brz videos back in the day where I could see the whole windshield and it felt like the focal point was the road. Personally I feel like in a video about a car, the focal point of your camera should be the road, not the steering wheel.
Can you do a review on a Hyundai palisade?
Okay so why are you slamming the doors when they're soft closed doors
which will go first the engine or the trans 💥
Engine probably.
Is hyundai?
Enjoy the life fellows!!!!!
Holy rev hang, Battman!
Hold on. You said you need 2 eyeballs to see the 3d gauge cluster and that that’s why we can’t see it. So do none of us viewers have 2 eyeballs? 😂😂
I love the exteriors of genesis but the interior needs work, especially for that price. I can't stand those long screens that are short. I also can't stand when they have the screens just sitting on the dash. I would way rather them be flush. Some don't look bad, like the Mercedes screen that connects to the gauge cluster, but most look terrible.
Better than German German would never give u tech like this cadillacs are good to lots of feature
Damn, my 2022 Kia Rio has wireless Android Auto and Apple car play... And this doesn't!?
This does. I’ve tried it.
New one coming
They honestly ruined it with the refresh tbh. The 2024 is much better than the 2025
great car, see I think smaht pahk is the dumbest feature. why would you ever pull into a spot that you can’t get in or out off that’s too tight? When the people who are next to you try to get into their cars they would mess up your GV 80 getting in or key it. So it just makes 0 sense other than some edge cases.
I do like these cars, but that steering wheel is just weird
I don´t know what else to say, simply this kind of lifestyle stinks, because for example here there are a lot of troubles without answers, I live in a chaotic city with multiples truoubles, for example, clogged sewers, insane people, garbage on the streets, contamination, dyrtiness, traffic jam, insecurity, chaos, unemployment, utility bills higher, that among many others things, however we have to put up with them, because there is no way out.
Bros twin brother is a maybach 😂 damn Genesis you are twin brothers with a Mercedes maybach? Didn't know
They Should’ve put a v8 in that thing
Is that the guy that shot trump 😮
Lots of road noise for a luxury product
It's a Hyundai, what do you expect?
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Matte paint is horrible, and black wheels. Never understood why people like to take a beautiful car and mute it so it looks cheap.
ماشاء الله
But its a not a new
over priced
Your opinion will change when you look at the Genesis lower body materials and finishing materials. The lower body frame material was used at the level of GLE x5.
Still think the steering wheel is ugly an interior is very basic . The exterior is one level the interior is low level . Imo.
lot like rugby ball
If by basic you mean it doesn’t have all the tacky piano black plastic and excessive ambient lighting that MB and Audi have, then sure.
You know what is basic? Mercedes Benz, but wait, the interior light can cover up the lazy simple design.