Shocking amount of weight removed from the Jensen Interceptor.
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2023
- It's time to drop out all the redundant weight out of the Jensen Interceptor. But how much will it all weigh? The answer may surprise you.
In this episode we weigh up everything that's been dropped off the car, including the engine, gearbox, shifter, exhaust, 12v battery, fluids, radiator and anything else associated with the engine. Once we've got the total weight we can then figure out how much weight we can put back on with the EV conversion. Also, find out how we're planning to install a rear Tesla drive unit into front engine/rear wheel drive car. 
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Part of owning one of these cars is the sound they make, can't beat the sound of a V8. Want a more modern V8, then maybe a LS or LT Engine. I drive an EV van for my job sometimes, it's great. But EV Jensen, it's a no.
I Still enjoyed watching the video on how it's done.
Hallelujah, I've been waiting for this build. Bring it on.
It’s on 👍😂
0:08 This weeek, I are bin mostly wearin' a Jensen Interceptor. 😁👍
Here's my list of Celebs that owned either Jensen Interceptors or the four-wheel drive FF version.
Ginger Baker, Ernie Wise, Sir Cliff Richard, Henry Cooper, Tony Curtis, Gina Campbell (Donald Campbell’s wife), Malcolm Alison, John Bonham, Clark Gable, Frank Sinatra, Sir Matt Busby, Gerry Marshal, Jack Nicklaus, Harold Robins, both Mike & Bernie Winters, Mitch Mitchel, John Thaw, Peter Stringfellow, Jack Stracker, Barry MaGuire, Dave Walker, Quin Martin & his wife each owned Jenson Interceptors. I deliberately left out the Playboy Bunny of the year who won one as part of her prize & after featuring it in her front cover photoshoot, almost immediately flogged it. I’m sure there are scores more famous names.
Wow , great list. 👍😀
@@spudproductions7606 Thanks.
I’m pretty sure I remember serving petrol to Jason Wingard , who was driving one in the 70s
Jensen owners. John Bonham, Clark Gable, Cher, (Jensen Convertible), Frank Sinatra (FF), Sir Matt Busby, Jack Nicklaus, Harold Robbins, Mike and Bernie Winters, Ginger Baker, Mitch Mitchell (of the Jimi Hendrix Experience) drove a FF, which Jimi Hendrix himself is said to have driven. Sir Cliff Richard, John Thaw, boxer Henry Cooper, Peter Stringfellow. Eric Morecambe had a heart attack in an Interceptor. Singer Barry MaGuire drove (and smashed?) an FF. Dave Walker of (middle era) Fleetwood Mac).
Tony Curtis had a Jensen FF!
Well done, that’s a great list. 👍😀
Impressive list! I think Lord Brett Sinclair, Roger Moore's fictional character in the 1970s TV series, The Persuaders, also drove an Interceptor.
@@robborland290 In 'The Persuaders', Lord Brett Sinclair drove an Aston Martin DBS - a very special one - when the DBS was launched the Tadek Marek V8 wasn't ready, so Brett Sinclair's DBS had the 4.0-litre six-cylinder engine from the DB6.
Wow
great to the Jensen convention begin. I'm looking forward to seeing it drive.
Love the build vids, looking forward to the next one!
The minute you said 440 Chrysler magnum. I knew instinctively you were going to be over 500 to 550 kg all in. Radiator gas tank everything. What a magnificent car.
Was.
It’s such a beautiful car! Love that colour too. Can’t wait for the transformation!
Wow the weight was a bit of a shocker. Looking forward to the rest of the videos.
The Jensen Interceptor is probably the most beautiful car I've ever seen. As a younger driver I saw one in California and just about broke my neck turning to see it.
One of the best looking cars with one of the best names as well. 👍
Can’t wait, I always wanted one of these as a kid
I wait anxiously for the conversion and test drive
Henry Cooper drove a Jenson Interceptor TEA449G and would park it outside my school while he trained in the Thomas a Becket pub in the old Kent Road
That’s a good one, cheers 👍😀
I had a weekend job at a garage when I was at school. There was a Jensen parked up that had been there for a couple of years because they couldn't find a starter for it, never thought much of it at the time!
Always liked the Jensen Interceptor, love the colour of this one, I look forward to seeing the completed project.
I remember seeing Oliver Reed driving a convertible Interceptor in light blue in Guernsey in the mid 70s
I was a passenger as a lad in a Jensen from near Darlington to Salisbury in an Interceptor, cruising down the A1 at 115 mp,h we refueled twice on the A1. That should give you a clue how much it drank !!! But what an incredible drive, smooth fast and powerful.. So later on, much later on I bought one, and its been finished and stored away since 2004 ready for the day they appreciate in value, which seems like never. Was thinking of having it converted and removing the kiddie seats and using that space for additional batteries. I would hope for 100 KWH on board. We will see.
Looked a pretty mint example - shame its not been left as is.
Thank you for this video, it has helped me answer a lot of questions for my own project: A 1984 Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am.
Glad it helped
Lord Carrington (6th Baron Carrington) Minister fo State for Defence in 1970 had a Jensen Interceptor III when he visited RAF Benson.
Love the 541R
Me too. An old boss had one. Very cool. 👍😀
@Antonio Palmero. Do you like the Jensen CV8? If you haven't already seen it, have a look at Retropower on RUclips. They are resto - modding a CV8 which will be quite something when finished. Stay safe and well.
i remember following my dream car into Godmanchester in the early 1970s , a new Jenson Interceptor FF with OGO 2 William
867 lbs for the motor and transmission is right. The 440 is a pretty large and heavy duty engine. Forged crank, beefy rods, high nickel content block etc all adds weight but also longevity to the engine. They helped give the Jensen the performance they were known for!
And the wonderful sound of that big block.
@@212MPH I had a 1966 New Yorker with a balanced and blue printed slightly modified 440 in it. It sounded really nice and went as good as it sounded. Surprised a lot of Mustangs and Camaros with it. They couldn't believe they lost to a New Yorker in the 1/4 mile and by a lot.
The torqueflight auto trans wasn't exactly a light weight either!
@@mikedx2706 The 440 weighed about 745 lbs and the torque flight about 125lbs.
plus the engine particularly if low miles should be worth the effort to sell it perhaps best possible going on $10K USD. Change the oil and video running it BEFORE removing it from the car when removed cleans the engine and it should be an easy sell on Bring-a-Trailer, eBay, Craigslist etc depending on what the engine comes out of!
EV West has told The Drive that estimated pricing is in the $25,000-$35,000 range for the crate motor
I could watch these all day :D
Good to hear. Loads more to come. 👍😀
John Bonham had 3 in total at various times, Matt Busby's was a reg gold series 1...FMB 90G..... Winston Churchills Grandson drove a white FF.. VOL 63J......
Good ones. 👍😀
Wishing to see a Suzuki Jimny conversation
I love everything about this - except the loss of the marvellous 440 V8 whoofle sound! Can you devise a system that puts the magical original engine sound back?
A celebrity who drove a Jensen Interceptor in the early 1970s: Kendo Nagasaki, the most ferocious wrestler of all time! At the same time he had a 1968 Rolls Royce Mulliner Park Ward 2-door coupe (predecessor of the Corniche), and he said the Jensen was better built. It's still one of my dream cars...
Good one, I remember him and when his mask was ripped off. 👍😀
I wonder what Big Daddy drove, or Giant Haystacks? 😉😁😆
@@ElectricClassicCars Kendo says that Big Daddy didn't drive himself to wrestling matches, he was driven by his brothers in a Ford Transit van with a specially modified seat! Haystacks apparently liked big Mercedes saloons, the V8 SE range, and he also needed a special seat to accommodate his size and weight. The 'Electric Classic Cars' spirit of upgrading powertrains was occasionally apparent - Pat Roach once had a Bentley R-type (the model before the RR Cloud shape) in which he'd replaced the smooth but thirsty 4.6-litre straight six engine for a somewhat coarse 3-cylinder Perkins diesel tractor engine! Apparently, Pat was delighted with the increase from 9mpg to 30mpg, but Kendo said the whole car vibrated like crazy, as badly as any tractor! Kendo said, "He loved it, but he'd ruined the car! He wouldn't hear of it though!" It's likely that he'd have been an ECC customer!
This will be a fine project to follow!
Watch this space 👍😀
Excellent video guys. Details like this are far more interesting to some of us that just the finished product. I was actually surprised that the whole car was not heavier to start with. Also, the near 50/50 weight balance was also a surprise. Cheers
I was very surprised by the weight distribution. 👍😀
My Mazda 6 with 2 light people on board is 1600kgs. My Tesla S is 2200 kgs with 2 people in it.
@@markmark5269 yes, new EV's are extremely heavy. I just can't wait for one on them to crush me in my 1100kg Beetle.
Unlikely to be a celebrity, but, some instructor at San Francisco City College had one. Don't know who it is by name. I recall seeing a plate on the dash that said "Built by hand in West Bromwich"
I own an Interceptor II (1971) with the 383 CID engine. Can't wait to see how this turns out!
Owned a 74” interceptor III WITH 440 Chrysler and Thermoquad Carbs. I purchased it to have daily driver because my 73 1/2 Jag v-12 convertible was constantly in shop 😅
3:55 I had 350kgs in my head Hello Richard, sorry for the long break. I've been studying for my masters. I love your channel and I am back again, but I will have another break soon. I always miss watching your videos.
Welcome back!
@@ElectricClassicCars 🤗
In terms of power density, the W16 utilised in the Bugatti Chiron weighs 400kgs (about the same as the engine in this video) but produces 1573hp, or 197hp per litre.
Another great first principles video Richard. Who needs complicated computer analysis. Always loved the Jensen Interceptor, it will find its true self with this conversion - I only know of Eric Morecambe owning one 😅
Fascinating, thank you.
Welcome 👍😀
I hope the old 440 found a good home.
Thank you
Mad Max had one !!
Really ????👍
You think that's heavy, I worked on a Interceptor FF, that engine (383) and transmission with a great big transfer case also on the back of it! Glad we had a forklift!
Good point, the FF would be even heavier 👍😬
My dad had one, he thought he was a celebrity. I remember him doing a fairly obscene speed in it and turning to me and saying "feel how it pulls at xxx" and flooring it. It did indeed pull. This is a perfect EV conversion, very jealous of this one
My mk1 interceptor would cruise at 120 mph with no problems, other than fuel dropping quite dramatically.
@@roystonvehicles9129 Fortunately it is just the fuel gauge needle dropping to the floor. 😄
@@Stefan_Dahn yes bud
Clark Gable did not own an Interceptor or a FF model he died in 1960, the interceptor wasn't available till 1966.
However the Jensen brothers Alan & Richard did build him a special car this was in early days when Jensen had just started building cars.
1936 jensen-Ford convertible
Jensen built an Interceptor from 1950-57 with a 4 litre straight 6 Austin derived engine, nothing like the later V8 engined Interceptor models from 1966>.
Really cool video guys! I had no idea Damon Albarn was doing electric car conversions
Don't expect Gwyneth Paltrow.
Did anybody ever tell you that you sound a little bit like Richard Hammond if he had a cold, of all people? 🙃
My husband loved that sort of old car (not the particular make and model though, he was a Mustang lad with pride), so watching the conversions is a ton of fun for me. Remembering his interest and combining it with mine for sustainability! Keep doing what you do!
Thanks. 👍😀
3:51 Wow, that engine alone is the same weight as an entire Honda Gold Wing or Harley motorcycle!
Or a gold wing and Harley are the same weight as a car. 😂😂👍
@@spudproductions7606 A fairly small one, yeah :-)
"To all you ladies out there that told me otherwise" AAAHAHHAHAHHAAAA I'm dying over here, oh my god XD
I took a second look at this video and I want to tell you a few things about the 440 Magnum engine. Starting in 1974 the 440 was built with an externally-balanced crankshaft. To determine which crank your engine has, the motor's numbers are stamped on the block, next to the distributor. If you engine has a 440E stamped on it, don't sell it to anyone that owns a classic Mopar muscle car like Richard Hammond, who owned a '69 Charger R/T. The front harmonic balancer on the front of the crank has an egg-shaped casting on front; take the crank pulley off to verify. Also, the torque convertor has weights welded on to balance the rear of the crank. There are a load of aftermarket, high-performance parts available for these old motors; it's just a matter of waiting on shipping and import taxes. Your motor looks to be in exceptional shape. In the US, your 440 would go for $1000 to $2000 bucks. The 727 trans is rather common, so $250. The '69 440 Magnum was rated for 375 HP, run without the fan belts. The Imperial and the police cars ran a 440 that was basically the 440 six-pack with the three 2-Barrel carbs replaced with an 850 CFM Holley 4-Barrel, for 390 HP. Thanks Mate, Cheers
Thanks for the info. 👍😀
Funny that an exclusive car like the Jenson Interceptor was made in the heart of the industrial West Midlands, not the prettiest of locations!
No car plants in the Lake District. 😂😂
Ah haa similar to my Tesla arrangement on the TVR, but I've gone small drive unit so not so wild, however I'm sure it won't be mild. Great vis chaps 👍⚡🔋
Dry weight and kerb weight vary massively. Fluids incl 90% fuel will be much more than 100Kg on a car of this size, so 1670 Kg to 1800Kg easily.
Agreed 👍😀
I absolutely love your videos.
Thanks 👍😀
Glad you like them!
Would it work if you could mount the Tesla motor in the back (and save the prop and gear housing weight too) along with some of the batteries and then mount the remaining batteries etc in the original engine compartment? You could possibly gain extra storage in the engine bay above those batteries too. Or go the full Jensen FF route and have motors in the back and the front making it 4WD? Probably difficult and expensive to achieve but it would be glorious!
Keep up the great work guys!!
Unfortunately there's not enough room in the rear without cutting the boot floor, we'd also need to change the rear suspension as it's a solid rear axle.
I was worried about losing the spare but then I remembered that it's a UK vehicle and road service will never be more than 10km away.
One word, I don't care what anyone says, put the engine back in....... absolute sacrilege!!😱
That’s two words 👍
Gutting classics for electrics is like throwing paint at works of art...there Ive said what I feel
A bit harsh old boy, more like prints of masters being passed off as the original. Me personally have no issues with these conversions, (I did initially but have overcome them) help keeps the cars on the road without the headaches /woes/ reliability and maintenance and no stinky dangerous exhaust pipes. (yes I know pollution from electricity gens.)
Cool vid. Wouldn't have just been easier to put the car back on the scales after everything had been taken off/out?
Yep, that's what we usually do for each car, but to make the video more interesting we thought we'd film and weigh everything that came off instead. 👍
Que clássico lindo, com o seu projeto, ficará perfeito. Parabéns 👏👏👏👏👏
Interesting as not many celebs actually owned a Jensen as Jensen used to lease their cars out to famous people. The Jensen interceptor was the first car fitted with a type of ABS power Breaking System and the FF version was the first car to have four wheel drive single gearbox with Limited Slip Differential. Like the Jaguar E type 4.2 the Jensen was known to hit 150MPH. Also unlike today all vehicles had to carry a full size spare wheel and jack tool kit . As the tool kit was not part of being weighed very strange.
Interesting, there was no tool kit in it. 👍
Looking forward to this series. Such a beautiful looking car.
Lol, not in my opinion, but then I'm not British. I guess it is what you are used to.
I remember hearing that Bob Newhart drove an Interceptor in the U.S.
Weird british Marques are my favorite.
Was introduced to this back in 2002 watching Ed China working on it.
You are marrying the best qualities of old British cars with modern reliability. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I could afford one and my government wasn't upset at the fact the steering wheel is on the other side.
"Modern reliability" lmfao. That hilarious as one of the most hilarious part abiut new cars is their reliability. Or rather, lack of
@Kro tch LickmEugh do you even know what can go wrong in an ev?
I'd love to drive this car. I've wanted to drive one ever since I was a kid. EV would be a hoot!
This shows the potential problem with an EV conversion of a light gar. I've got a K-series Caterham that weighs about 550kg, so the same as the engine, exhaust + bits, spare wheel and engine fluids from the Interceptor. I'd be interested to see a conversion of something skinnier to see what's possible.
And no room for and battery to get you anywhere.
@@MrLeovdmeer Re: Caterham, there's plenty of room. The motor doesn't have to be crazy huge and there are potential frontal and rear areas to store the battery packs. The issue is one of packaging, and branching off from that, weight distribution. However to have a go at half solving these problems, the level of engineering required to make the most efficient use of the space, would be intensive and quite pricey. Not impossible though. A light car such as the Seven needn't have a whopping great battery pack or a big Tesla motor.
this is a beauty thanks for this 💖💖💖
Welcome 👍😀
You're welcome 😊
If you cancan standardised the conversion kit, this business can run for decades
NOEL EDMONS WAS THE ONLY ONE I REMEMBER WHO DROVE AN INTERCEPTOR BUT IT WAS THE FF ( four wheel drive ).
Some celebrities Interceptor owners: Sir Cliff Richard, actor John Thaw and ex-heavyweight champ Henry Cooper, and nightclub-owner Peter Stringfellow, Princess Anne, Ginger Baker (musician), Jason Bonham (musician) owned several Jensens, Peter Butler (pro golfer), Jim Colbert (pro golfer), Cher (artist), Bing Crosby (artist and actor), Elton John, Tony Curtis (actor), Farrah Fawcett (actor), Mick Fleetwood (musician), Frederick Forsythe (author), Eric Morecambe (comedian), Harold Robbins (author), Johnny Rutherford (race car driver), Frank Sinatra (actor and singer), Dusty Springfield (singer), Donna Summer (singer), Tanya Tucker (country singer), Petter Sundt (multibillionaire ship owner), Mike Winters (comedian), Simon Dutton 8actor), Anneka de Lorenzo (Penthouse-model - she won it!), Quentin Wilson (classic car journalist), Kjell Qvale (USA's most prominent classic car salesman and Jensen-factory owner), Mike and Bernie Winters (comedians), Jack Straker (musician Beachbuggy), Barry MaGuire (singer), Jan Blehr (lawyer and car chase lector), Hollywood-producer Quinn Martin and his wife both owned one, Lynda Carter (actress), financier Winthrop P. Rockefeller and celebrity lawyer Steinar Wiik Sorvik had 2, and still owns one.
Both Clark Gable and Jack Nicklaus drove Jensens, but not Interceptors, and have never owned one.
Wow. Now that's a list. Thanks. 👍
Good effort. Go to the top of the class. 👍😀
3:55 I guessed 850lbs. Not too shabby!
Excellent!!! Cliff Richard drove one as well.
He did. 👍😀
@@spudproductions7606 Any update on this build?
@@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 coming soon
@@spudproductions7606 Cheers chap!
This is going to be great when its done
I’d buy this conversion. This classic conversion is ‘classier’ than any current EV body design. Thanks for the video! Actually, I thought it would be that heavy.
I would love to see a reliant scimitar in your workshop
Amo o seu trabalho 😍
I’m already heavily invested in this build series 😌 what a beautiful car ❤
Welcome 👍😀
Don’t forget that you can sell the 440 and the other smelly parts to defray some of the costs of your beautiful investment!
It was a beautiful car till you desecrated it into this, perhaps you don't realise it, but this electric fad won't last
I would always want to keep the spare wheel and just for aesthetics the exhaust tailpipes.
Great video, bet no one back in the day ever thought you'd see an electric interceptor, I had a mk1 and tbh it was the fuel consumption that did me in, you could actually see the gauge dropping, had an e type s1 at the same time and that was a lot more frugal, I used them as every day cars at the time.
Can you remember what the mpg was? 👍😀
I used to have a mark 1 as well loved it fuel consumption was bad but dodgy care and I don't to this day
@@garrysimpson4056 yes it's worth it for the experience.
@Royston Vehicles yes it was fantastic I sold it for £2500 ish in around 1985
@@garrysimpson4056 I sold mine in about 2010 for 5k as the sills had gone, they weren't expensive until recently, used to like to put it in 2nd and floor it!
Cream drummer Ginger Baker had a Jensen FF (4x4 Interceptor)
It's a wash chaps but also fewer moving parts in the end that will stay cleaner.
We always knew this was a heavy car so no surprised there... be interesting to know the cost of a full conversion.
Keep the ICE so when you have finished driving it, you can put it back together and park it in a museum. Such a beautiful car.
More Electric car conversion please. Your videos are very educational.. May I suggest converting a Toyota Hi-Ace van..This is popular in South East Asia.. More power to you guys 🙏🇵🇭
Life is cheap in south east Asia but these dangerous conversions should be banned elsewhere.
1988 Austin Texas an Engineer at Tracor Defense (fixed wing reconnaissance drones) drove one. It was very cool car, but a real gas hog
I'll be waiting impatiently for each video in this series! what a cool conversion.
Good to hear. It’s going to be a cool conversion. 👍😀
Princess Ann broke the speed limit in one of these and was fined. Yep I am that old (81) regards, Jim in NI
Thanks for the info 👍😀
Tony Curtis owned 1 , lots more content needed on this Jenson intercepter.
Fabulous cars. I had a ride in a Jensen Interceptor in 1973. My then girlfriends fathers car. A real head turner - the car that is 🤣
Wow! This is a dream build!! Brilliant process!!
Love the front of the Jensen the most. Similar to the Triumph PI on looks, although bigger. The rear of the PI was nice but the cabin looked a bit weird, sort of perched on the body. The Interceptor is all round cleaner looking and wider. Be great to see the conversion. I was wondering if a rear motor might benefit the PI too, leaving the engine bay for batteries and frunk?
As a Chrysler owner,.. nah, expected the motor and trans to be about 100kilos heavier
13:36 it's twice the weight I thought it would be...
Plus It will have much more quick acceleration now you have put your magic touch tooooo it
I shared your video with my experimental department colleagues from Jensen Motors. An informative video but we're not convinced - yet! Also seems sad to pull apart a car which has recently been restored, but I guess the customer is always right.
it was defective, smelly fumes came out the back 😉
I think Cliff Richard had one, it broke down pretty soon after buying so he handed it back! Epic conversion though, put me down for one 👍
Cliff - good one 👍😀
Excellent comparison video, what would be the typical conversion cost and how are you guys able to source the Tesla drivetrains for your conversions?
I think you should have left the spare tire out of the equation. EV conversion does not prevent flats. Regardless, the weight still comes in a few pounds less (or kilos) with the EV equipment. Which is good to know that they are so close. Bring on the conversion.
He said they’re using the space, so there won’t be a spare.
True but we need the space for the rear battery pack, also new cars haven't had spares for decades. 👍
@@ElectricClassicCars "...new cars haven't had spares for decades." Huh? Say what now??🙄
@@ElectricClassicCars fair enough taking that into consideration. Keep up the good work.
@@eGazTheFirstAustralian I figure he means there in the UK. We still like our spares.
So glad you do it in metric. If I watch an American video they use pounds/lbs and I just don't have a clue what they're on about unless I google to convert it.
We are all metric …….. until we use miles and gallons. 👍😀
How beautiful this is. Amazing conversion.
Now it will remain beautiful but will become cool as well.
Thanks. 👍😀
I owned my 1973 "Gentleman's Express" for over 20 years. It never let me down but it sucked down gasoline! 7 mpg on the highway and just 4 mpg around town. They were US gallons of course (20% smaller than Imperial gallons). I also had an aluminium Holley "Street Dominator" intake manifold which eliminated 60 lbs of weight and with a genuine 1000 cfm Thermoquad carburetor was good for 14.1 seconds in the quarter mile at Carlsbad, California, raceway. Sadly I sold it before moving to Oregon a few years ago where I've started a project to turn my 1970 Lotus Europa into an EV. Perhaps I should have kept the Jensen and sold the Lotus!
Cool story. I bet the Lotus handled better than the Jensen. 😉👍
@@ElectricClassicCars Actually the Interceptor handled very well,especially at speed. The almost perfect 50/50 weight distribution helped, along with some good Koni shock absorbers. When I bought the car some teenagers had been bracket racing it at various drag strips. The result was that the rear springs had sagged badly but after I had them heat repeated and re-curved by a bloke in Anaheim the handling was very good. Plenty of road hugging weight of course.
There was a stretch of road behind the Tustin airship hangers that I used every day on my way to my office. There were no cross streets for about a mile and a half and, traffic permitting, I would hit 135 mph easily every day I could. Unfortunately, with the aerodynamics of a brick, it was just about flat out at that speed, but steady as a rock. I'd hit 90 down Laguna Canyon on quiet traffic days (now a divided highway, then a two lane road) and the car would just drift lovely as she rose on the suspension over a rise on a bend there.
We'd stay at the Desert in when we drove to Las Vegas and the car hops would always park the Jensen outside the main entrance. It was bright yellow and reflected well in the dark glass front and I never told them off for doing burn outs when they had to move it from time to time. The Chrysler 440 HiPo engine and 727 transmission were bulletproof. I didn't have the Europa then but I did have a 1965 Lotus Elan for the mountains and my Buick V6 powered Triumph TR7 Spider for running around town. I still have the Spider and replaced the Elan with the Europa after I suffered Lotus withdrawal symptoms.