I never really liked the idea of putting an electric motor in a classic car but I have to say I’m converted. The number of times I’ve traveled to Cornwall in my split screen camper and wondered if I’d actually get there would be a thing of the past. Makes perfect sense. Well done with RUclips and your tv show!
The one question that's rarely addressed is cost. I would like to know the actual cost of a battery, electric motors and controllers. I know the price is changing but let us know the cost now.
The cost of those comprehensive long range fast charge conversion is too insane to mention. In the area of a new EV like a Tesla. But the huge advantage is that it is build for your needs and desires and very importantly: You own the design. Repairs and upgrades are easily and cheaply done.
I watched the engine vs motor, battery vs fuel and charger videos as a series and I have to say how pretty much perfect they are in balance of information, but not too scientific to lose the audience. Presented really well and in one take. Thank you.
I can see this channel gaining and deserving as many subs as Peters in a heartbeat. It’s great to have the Electricity evolution explained so we can understand it better. Top marks indeed Thankyou. 👍🇬🇧
Man! What a great explanation about the inner workings of batteries and how they compare to fuel. Very instructive and not at all boring or too dense. Keep it up!
Hi Richard, you have a very natural delivery in straight forward language. You seem to be speaking without any prompting or scripts, which underlines your knowledge and understanding of EV engineering. 👍😎
7 hours ago a Dutch commercial radio station started a discussion about this exact subject, so your video came in as very handy as reference material so that I could discuss several frivolous arguments that were used by several people who joined the conversation with their comments. And I shared a link to this video as well 👍 And yes, cobalt was one of their arguments. When it comes to renewable energy and electric cars people always bring up arguments that weren't a problem when the same materials were used for something else. Take for example composite materials. It is not a problem when it is used for boats and cars, but when it is used for wind turbine blades it all the sudden becomes a problem for those people. Luckily a Dutch company solved that problem too, because they can recycle composite materials so that they can produce 100% recyclable tiles with it. But it is another example of a frivolous argument against renewable energy and technology. Thank you for your excellent work !!👍✌ (P.S. made a small typo so I fixed my error after reading it a few days later)
@@bertilhatt Another striking example of the double moral, the lack of knowledge, and/or the hypocrisy from people who actually do know better. It is a big reason why I love this channel and the work from the people from Electric Classic cars so much. Honest information is a rarity these days. And since it is a 100% commercial operation people can't use the so called "government subsidies" argument and their usual conspiracy theories either. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge, I think that is exactly how we can make steps forward as a society.
I think that to those people it doesn't feel like an improvement when your still mining finite minerals and resources for a green alternative. I'm struggling with that as well. When you say cobalt is being used to refine petrol, it feels strange to be very enthusiastic about is when it's being used for a zero emission alternative. The mining remains, the exploitation remains, the resource does not remain as it's a finite one which makes it feel like a temporary solution and more of the same as with for instance the fossil fuel industry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against electrical cars but a lot of things are happily forgotten when we're talking about zero emission solutions. They're mostly zero emission and/or green when actually in use, not yet in production or when their commercial life has ended. Fortunately developments are quick, and I'm confident that there will be solutions for all those problems.
@@svenvanwesterloo173 You don’t seem to differentiate metals that are capitalised in a fixed battery, that will be used every day for 10 years, reused in their entirely afterwards and ressources that will be consumed once, burned for good and never reused again.
I think is really important to add / extract engine efficiency in your equation. Even petrol has the highest energy density, using it in the ice engine drops that efficiency accordingly to the engine efficiency. Also, thank you for your comment on the ''where the energy is coming from'' many people still think that the energy grid runs like in the 80. All the best, looking forward to your next episode.
@@alanmay7929 Even if the energy comes from a coal fired power station economies of scale kick in and the electric car is still greener over it's life cycle. It just takes a few more miles to be greener. It takes around 29k miles for an electric car in the UK to be greener versus something like 60k miles for a car running off dirty electricity. The irony is If all cars were scrapped at 20k miles petrol would be greener. Note, the numbers above may not be perfectly correct but they're not that far off. They come from Volvo who revealed the total carbon footprint over the lifecycle of their cars with (i believe) all factors included.
@@alanmay7929 While extracting, processing, storage and pumping is done with electricity too. If you understand the calculations that ECC made so simple, using 30% of a product while dumping the rest of 70% is by far less efficient then anything I know as a product. Care to elaborate on that?
What an amazing piece of masterclass... you must be teaching this stuff in college. You´re a genius. Not only you explain us the theory easily but also show us how things works and how they are. Belive me: I am a architect and a teacher and I know what I´m talking about. Congratulations for your work and for your channel.
Many years ago I was walking down an old back lane near Blunsdon, Swindon with my girlfriend, when I spotted a MKIIA long wheelbase Land Rover languishing in an old wooden shed. A couple of enquiries later I’d bought it and proceeded to rebuild the engine, which was in bits. I then went on to strip the gearbox and rebuilt it with salvaged parts; rewired the electrics; fitted some custom electronics; added side windows a Fairey overdrive and reconditioned the front wheel hubs, UJ’s and topped it off with free-wheeling front hubs and an economy carburettor. A great first barn-find rebuild. I can remember lifting out the gearbox by straddling the centre chassis members and lifting it out using the web seatbelt’s strapped over my shoulders. Back then I was as strong as an Ox and could pull off a stunt like that. Best time of my life. That’s what I like the most about your show. You give it a go and nothing much will stop you. The aim is to make better things and showcase your skills. Keep up the great work.
best conversion...I am surely going to visit your workshop during my visit to London this summer....I am the same fellow who sent you email for converting Toyota FJ60 :)
Great insight into the variety of batteries available. I must admit I thought they were all pretty much the same, just packaged differently. It will be interesting to see if solid state batteries ever become a reality.
It's good to hear that cobalt is coming out of battery technology. It's not really the case that many people "wave the banner" on cobalt are doing that to rile against the electric car industry and ignore others such as mobile phones, though, as you appear to be hinting at here. Surely it's simply that if all people in the UK who have cars now want to have electric cars in the future, the total quantity of cobalt required would be simply /massive/ whilst that required for mobile phones would remain relatively insignificant against that. We have the luxury of not being the ones who live next to the cobalt mines, nor the mines for rare earth metals used in many technologies too. All of these things are, conveniently mined thousands of miles away from us and it's quite right that people flag this up. Most of us are blind to the damage done. So, it's a great relief to hear that reliance on at least one of the 'nasties' is being massively reduced in EV technology.
Very interesting about the battery's being kept very low in the car. Also with being able to move the battery packs around, you could get close to a 50/50 weight distribution which would give it excellent handling.
Thats the principle behind most skate board chassis designs. In something like an e type swap the rear axel for the Tesla set up...and put the batteries and gubbins where the old straight six bell housing and gearbox all went.. which way more than the rest of the body assembly. They are seriously heavy engines....let alone the V 12 versions.
I love your no nonsense plain speaking approach to this subject. It would be great to see a mix of content from you, I find the tech talks interesting but I’d also love to see some practical demonstrations of what is possible. If you have to shred tyres or drive up the side of a Welsh mountain to do it then so much the better ;-) I also find it fascinating seeing what types of vehicles you have been able to convert.
Really enjoying these tech videos. Would be interesting to see how you solve issues around heating/cooling cabin, brake servo, power steering, auxiliary power etc. that would have come off feeds from an engine in the past.
Thank you very much! It is nice to hear straight talk and FACTUAL evidence. Playing with vehicles is still alive! Love the spirit! I can't wait for more!
Excellent video! Informative and well staged. Focused video, clear audio and without the use of annoying and unnecessary background music !! Keep up the good work!
Love what you are doing! We are a 2 EV family, going on 7 years. What you are doing is so powerful and a great resource for me to share with people I speak with. My feedback on this video is- If you speak about global warming you run the risk of loosing some people’s attention. Your focus on the performance side of a conversation is so powerful. A stand alone video about Global Warning with expert guest might be a good addition someday. I would also think a video on repurposing used batteries (grid, home and RV…) would be a good + as well, but for now please keep doing what you do so well. I believe you are helping to change the world.
These new tech videos are great. I've seen your Beetle before and am pleased to be able to learn how the components all work together. I've just restored a 1972 Beetle 1302S but for my next project it would be nice to do an electric conversion of an old VW
More ammo for my "our electric car tech isnt your grandads electric car tech" arsenal. Much needed as I find myself in this debate constantly as of late. Holding out for some sort of electric hybrid 'upgrade' for my 17,000lb gvwr motorhome. Youve got my sub!
Brilliant explanation, alot of people are scared of range when it comes to EV cars, but what people must understand like any technology it only gets better over time. And I wont be surprised in 10 years time a EV will do over 1000 km on a single charge. And charge full in under 10min.
Thank you for providing this excellent technical content!!! It's a long-term dream for my wife and I to do classic EV conversions and your channel is the perfect inspiration.
I'd love to understand charging from hook-up connector in car to in-car charger(s) explaining and showing the wires/cables running to charger and/or directly to battery, level 1, 2 and level 3 physical differences why the new Hummer can take up to 341 kWh at a charge station(saw it on youtube), why the kWh's go down after a while of charging. Best electric car conversion educational channel on youtube!!! Big thank you! My next question I'll send in will be on cooling, motor battery inverter controller :)
@@ElectricClassicCars Thank you I watched the charging video great info but my question has to do with the car itself all items 'built-into' the car only, would be great to learn about that, thanks for all you do!
Brilliant. I'll share this everytime a luddite needs to be informed about the current state of battery technology. A couple of things that would have been helpful are you could have expanded the use of cobalt to say that it is used in the refining of fossil fuels to remove the sulphur and when used in a battery, the cobalt can be extracted and recyled. The other point that would have been great to be included is what can be done if the battery pack starts to degrade. Some people think that the whole battery pack has to be slung in to landfil. It would be good to see an explination how individual cells can be replaced. If that is the case and I'm not talking rubbish myself!
Although Cobalt us indeed used in the petrol refinement industry the volume compared to the EV battery industry is fairly low. There's a good pie chart in the first few pages of this report that you might find useful. www.cruxinvestor.com/articles/the-ultimate-guide-to-the-cobalt-market-2021-2030f#:~:text=Cobalt%20is%20an%20important%20raw,pharmaceuticals%2C%20steels%20and%20glaze%20materials.
Thank you once again for lovely content. For the Q&A: How easy is it in the UK to get conversions on the road, approved by the DVLA? This seems very difficult in Norway due to law that prohibit this kind of radical alternation on vehicles. Guess for the new project, that the world´s never seen : The Tesla powered 4x4 Soviet Trabant.
This Trabi is 10 years old and it is a legal one, today the electrical conversion is no longer allowed, so it will be transferred to Austria, where it will be licensed and brought back to Hungary! 😂 🤣
Great presentation! How does a w201 Mercedes look as a potential conversion candidate. Curb weight was around 1200 kg. They are numerous still, handle great and well built. Drag coefficient was very low for the time. I love mine but feel guilty about the diesel.
Absolutely brilliant video. Loved the petrol / battery comparison and the details of the different battery packs and there uses. Really looking forward to the next one.
Excellent video!! I'm a maker type with gear-head experience and I'm getting more and more interested in EV conversions. Thank you for being such a great resource of useful info! Can't wait to see what you're building! Cheers.
Very interesting and informative. The silhouette of the vehicle under the cover looks very vintage. I have a 1948 Anglia sat in my drive under a cover and it looks similar shape. I also have a Tesla model 3 so that's a real contrast.
Hello, thank you very much for the very detailed explanation of the different battery types. Your videos are very entertaining and inspiring. I am already looking forward to the next topic. Recently, I talked to a friend about transmissions in an electrical conversion. When would you use the original gearbox and when would you not? Does it make sense, for example, to continue using the automatic transmission in a Mercedes SL?
I love the show. I got introduced to it because I watch my favourite youtuber Petrol Ped Pete, and he said he was getting involved in the show. This was a very informative video and very interesting to watch.
21:30 Do not forget to include fossil fuels in that list, because cobalt is used to desulphur gas and diesel. That is also a one time use, whereas you can recycle the cobalt from batteries. 🤔😎
I totally like the comparison of kWh and energy density between batteries and petrol This is really cool to hear and to learn about! First video that I see for this particular comparison. Well done!
Just a clarification that if you live in a climate that requires you to heat the cabin of the vehicle a significant amount of the time then the efficiency calculation of the ICE needs to include the waste heat that you are using for that purpose. When you consider the EV you readily notice how much of the battery capacity you end up using for cabin heating since you don't have all this 'waste heat' from combustion.
Look forward to how the DC gets converted to AC, and how controlled. ie , more info on the Inverters, how they are rated and paired to the Battery Pack and Motor. Thanx, and keep up the great presentations.
Very interesting and honest video. I find using graphics to convey data points is often easier on the audience, still getting my head tuned to Kwh/Kg. This years project looks intriguing, maybe a 1970's Japanese hatch?
Great explanation i think that will be handy for a lot of people…I understand the arguments but I still think weight is an issue…but I’ll counter that with battery technology can only improve…power density and weight 👍
Great video! I really want to see the details on your Tesla Land rover conversions - How you mounted the motor/What you did to replace the handbrake/ the controller you used/ why you used LSD's over lockers/ power steering pump/ brake vacuum etc... Love your work!
Thanks for the great videos😀 When it comes to cobalt, it is worth mentioning that cobalt is used to extract sulphur from crude oil. People who is against EV's have a tendency to forget that. Keep up the good work 🍻
I am really interested in having a second car as electric but people keep saying that batteries are only good for 8 yrs? And so expensive to replace that the car's are only worth scrap value where as my fiesta petrol car is a 09 plate still going strong I wouldn't like to spend all that money and only getting 8yrs could you please do a talk on the period of life for batteries and the cost of replacing them thanks again for doing these videos 👍
That's a good topic to add to the Q&A session we'll do. Thanks. In the meantime, talk to real EV drivers on their direct experience. Don't listen to those those that don't own one as there's a lot of FUD around. I've had an EV for 5 years and haven't seen any noticeable battery degredation yet. 👍
@@ElectricClassicCars I have spoken to a ev driver who has a Tesla he leases the car because of the 8yr battery life ? That was his choice but I don't know were his information came from that's another reason for trying to get some clarification on this matter as I have no clue about electric cars thanks for your reply looking forward to hearing proper answers on this matter as I at on the fence at the moment but keen to change to ev car thanks again 👍
Very, very insightful! Maybe you could also cover the overall configuration of an electric vs ICE car: what parts go in, which parts come out and which parts stay (e.g. gearbox yes/no).
Very informative although you didn't really cover the bulk problem of batteries, i.e. chewing up luggage space in conversions especially. But your Kw comparison figures were enlightening and a useful guide to how batteries are developing. Good video, thanks.
I am very curious about hub motors. Super nice to eliminate a lot of components, but I understand the unsprung weight penalty. Does seem like an easier conversion option.
Very interesting! Petrol has great energy density but engines don’t use it efficiently. Batteries aren’t as energy dense but they don’t need to be due to the massive efficiency of an electric motor. That’s what I learned from this. Also, battery tech is improving daily and swapping batteries is relatively easy. Petrol has lots more stored energy so bigger explosion I suppose too when it does go all at once! Batteries are far less likely to explode too. Thanks for the video!!! 🙏
Aww this is the best RUclips channel in a long time I’m absolutely hooked!! Just wish there was endless videos to watch, your new project would be absolutely amazing if you could show us through the steps something like project binky did would be a dream!!! 🙏🙏 also could you help inform about more of the negatives people focus on with electric cars, and let us k is what your thoughts are about the battery’s being unrecyclable ?
Something about maybe designing the electrical circuits for use in these conversions? Typical schematics (fair enough if they'll be 'just' an application of 'recommended' charger/inverter/batt manager circuits - but bonus if aren't paywalled)? (or even the 'right' set of google keywords to find them, fair enough)
Very informative, excellent- keep up the good work- but don’t forget that the fossil fuel industry uses a huge amount of cobalt as a catalyst when removing sulphur from petrol and diesel fuel in the refinery…
Correct, but to be fair it's not as much as goes into EV batteries. But on the other hand EV batteries are already going Cobalt free, I doubt the petrochemical industry will be doing the same. Here's some good info on where cobalt ends up by industry. www.cruxinvestor.com/articles/the-ultimate-guide-to-the-cobalt-market-2021-2030f#:~:text=Cobalt%20is%20an%20important%20raw,pharmaceuticals%2C%20steels%20and%20glaze%20materials.
Excellent Video There are two ways to look at energy density. Power per weight. Power per volume. Certainly for conversions and upgrades, volume may be as important or more important than weight. There are some notes that a new battery coming in the near future (Gemini) will have about twice the power per volume as the Tesla packs. They are also looking at multiple different battery chemistries. One comment I saw as more cells in parallel, tighter packed, would produce less heat and require less cooling. Thus allowing larger packs to be made using space wasted by the cooling system. But, of course, one has to make sure the system is stable under multiple different conditions from too hot to too cold to rapid discharging to rapid charging. Anyway, I could imagine a future episode that would discuss power per volume, and perhaps different battery chemistries.
What a great video! Just discovered your channel and I'm thrilled, really good stuff. You can tell that you thoroughly know what you are talking about but your are not using complex details to impress the audience, keeping it to essentials to get the message across, very good approach, much appreciated.
Fantastic RUclips channel... I'm not a EV lover. But I do love cars and tech. I would love to convert a 944 but have had hard time to find a kit that fits. Keep up the good work I looking forward to see som more insights into EV... I'd rather bye a car and convert it (a good daily conversion) than go to a car manufacturer and paying twice the money I did four years ago for more or less the sam car (segment for example a Peugeot 208 ... Swedish krona about 130k sek five years ago 300k sek for a EV today)...
Thanks for a good pair of videos - engines v motors and battery v petrol. In this one you did say that people talking about weight rub you up the wrong way. But to be fair you did go on about weight a lot in the first video when comparing the ICE to motors. I can certainly see the attraction of electric cars but at the moment choice and cost are the main blockers for me personally. I'll certainly be following your channel though as it is very interesting and entertaining.
This is a waaaaay more interesting Physics lesson than we ever received at school. Did you ever know you wanted to do this whilst at school? 👍🇬🇧
The last 3 videos you have put out have been fantastic, hope you stick at it and keep giving us great content 👍
Thanks, we'll try to keep it up. 😁👍
Because of electric motors we went with gas ⛽️ ! People didn’t have to crank the car woman could drive them and you could go farther with gas
I never really liked the idea of putting an electric motor in a classic car but I have to say I’m converted. The number of times I’ve traveled to Cornwall in my split screen camper and wondered if I’d actually get there would be a thing of the past. Makes perfect sense. Well done with RUclips and your tv show!
Thanks. I love a good Splitty. 😎👌
The one question that's rarely addressed is cost. I would like to know the actual cost of a battery, electric motors and controllers. I know the price is changing but let us know the cost now.
And can you get it registered as an EV ? In some countries you cannot convert your car to EV and actually being road legal.
@@svenvanwesterloo173 Which countries? I don't know of any.
The cost of those comprehensive long range fast charge conversion is too insane to mention. In the area of a new EV like a Tesla. But the huge advantage is that it is build for your needs and desires and very importantly: You own the design. Repairs and upgrades are easily and cheaply done.
I watched the engine vs motor, battery vs fuel and charger videos as a series and I have to say how pretty much perfect they are in balance of information, but not too scientific to lose the audience. Presented really well and in one take. Thank you.
I can see this channel gaining and deserving as many subs as Peters in a heartbeat. It’s great to have the Electricity evolution explained so we can understand it better. Top marks indeed Thankyou. 👍🇬🇧
Best summary I have seen in a long time! All the electric car haters need to see this.
Man! What a great explanation about the inner workings of batteries and how they compare to fuel. Very instructive and not at all boring or too dense. Keep it up!
This is hands down the best video, I ever saw on this subject, dude mad respect, you know your stuff, and is clear you love what you do! Awesome!!!!!
Q&A: How to start a conversion biz? (Mapping out costs, equipment, other first steps). Thanks for the great channel!
A great explanation, thankyou. I like how you have converted to kWh.
Hi Richard, you have a very natural delivery in straight forward language. You seem to be speaking without any prompting or scripts, which underlines your knowledge and understanding of EV engineering. 👍😎
Thanks. 😁👍
7 hours ago a Dutch commercial radio station started a discussion about this exact subject, so your video came in as very handy as reference material so that I could discuss several frivolous arguments that were used by several people who joined the conversation with their comments. And I shared a link to this video as well 👍
And yes, cobalt was one of their arguments. When it comes to renewable energy and electric cars people always bring up arguments that weren't a problem when the same materials were used for something else. Take for example composite materials. It is not a problem when it is used for boats and cars, but when it is used for wind turbine blades it all the sudden becomes a problem for those people.
Luckily a Dutch company solved that problem too, because they can recycle composite materials so that they can produce 100% recyclable tiles with it. But it is another example of a frivolous argument against renewable energy and technology.
Thank you for your excellent work !!👍✌
(P.S. made a small typo so I fixed my error after reading it a few days later)
One thing that people don’t seem to know is that a lot of the Cobalt is being used to refine petrol.
@@bertilhatt Another striking example of the double moral, the lack of knowledge, and/or the hypocrisy from people who actually do know better. It is a big reason why I love this channel and the work from the people from Electric Classic cars so much. Honest information is a rarity these days. And since it is a 100% commercial operation people can't use the so called "government subsidies" argument and their usual conspiracy theories either. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge, I think that is exactly how we can make steps forward as a society.
I think that to those people it doesn't feel like an improvement when your still mining finite minerals and resources for a green alternative. I'm struggling with that as well.
When you say cobalt is being used to refine petrol, it feels strange to be very enthusiastic about is when it's being used for a zero emission alternative. The mining remains, the exploitation remains, the resource does not remain as it's a finite one which makes it feel like a temporary solution and more of the same as with for instance the fossil fuel industry.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against electrical cars but a lot of things are happily forgotten when we're talking about zero emission solutions. They're mostly zero emission and/or green when actually in use, not yet in production or when their commercial life has ended.
Fortunately developments are quick, and I'm confident that there will be solutions for all those problems.
@@svenvanwesterloo173 You don’t seem to differentiate metals that are capitalised in a fixed battery, that will be used every day for 10 years, reused in their entirely afterwards and ressources that will be consumed once, burned for good and never reused again.
@@svenvanwesterloo173 The newest Tesla batteries are completely cobalt free !!!
I think is really important to add / extract engine efficiency in your equation. Even petrol has the highest energy density, using it in the ice engine drops that efficiency accordingly to the engine efficiency. Also, thank you for your comment on the ''where the energy is coming from'' many people still think that the energy grid runs like in the 80. All the best, looking forward to your next episode.
@@alanmay7929 What this has to do with Germany? I don't see your angle on this.
@@alanmay7929 Even if the energy comes from a coal fired power station economies of scale kick in and the electric car is still greener over it's life cycle. It just takes a few more miles to be greener. It takes around 29k miles for an electric car in the UK to be greener versus something like 60k miles for a car running off dirty electricity.
The irony is If all cars were scrapped at 20k miles petrol would be greener.
Note, the numbers above may not be perfectly correct but they're not that far off. They come from Volvo who revealed the total carbon footprint over the lifecycle of their cars with (i believe) all factors included.
@@alanmay7929 Perhaps your much smarter than Volvo then.
@@alanmay7929 While extracting, processing, storage and pumping is done with electricity too. If you understand the calculations that ECC made so simple, using 30% of a product while dumping the rest of 70% is by far less efficient then anything I know as a product. Care to elaborate on that?
@@alanmay7929 Newer diesels about 40% as Richard stated in his previous engine/motor comparison video ... but hardly "way more efficient".
What an amazing piece of masterclass... you must be teaching this stuff in college. You´re a genius. Not only you explain us the theory easily but also show us how things works and how they are. Belive me: I am a architect and a teacher and I know what I´m talking about. Congratulations for your work and for your channel.
Thanks. My mother was a teacher so maybe I got that from her. 😁👍
I wish I was that calm when it comes to myth busting.
Great video!
The situation is changing every day and it's getting more and more interesting. Thanks for this useful talk ;-)
This was utterly brilliant and pitched at just the right level. Please keep them coming.
I appreciate seeing you responding to your audience.
I hope you stay true and don’t allow the audience to pull you off course.
Very informative. I'm looking forward to the next episode. Cheers!
Great detail & well presented. Thanks for the update 👍🇬🇧
Honestly, your teaching skills are top-notch, very good explanation.
Many years ago I was walking down an old back lane near Blunsdon, Swindon with my girlfriend, when I spotted a MKIIA long wheelbase Land Rover languishing in an old wooden shed. A couple of enquiries later I’d bought it and proceeded to rebuild the engine, which was in bits. I then went on to strip the gearbox and rebuilt it with salvaged parts; rewired the electrics; fitted some custom electronics; added side windows a Fairey overdrive and reconditioned the front wheel hubs, UJ’s and topped it off with free-wheeling front hubs and an economy carburettor. A great first barn-find rebuild. I can remember lifting out the gearbox by straddling the centre chassis members and lifting it out using the web seatbelt’s strapped over my shoulders. Back then I was as strong as an Ox and could pull off a stunt like that. Best time of my life. That’s what I like the most about your show. You give it a go and nothing much will stop you. The aim is to make better things and showcase your skills. Keep up the great work.
Thank you. Nice story. 😁👍
best conversion...I am surely going to visit your workshop during my visit to London this summer....I am the same fellow who sent you email for converting Toyota FJ60 :)
This guy has got to have children with that Dad joke about "Electric planes will never take off" 😁
Well that was concise, bolloks free and clear as crystal..thanks very much..more tech, less 'entertainment' much appreciated.
"Dry and Boring"? How about Exhilarating and refreshing? Thank you so much for the content. You are a natural at conveying tech issues.
Brilliant video: lots of information delivered very effectively. I really appreciate these "tech talks," thank you for making these videos!
Excellent video, many thanks. Dreaming of when I can get my old jag converted form the dead dinosaur juice (love the term).
Good lord...i was hooked on this video and watched the entire thing and it was highly educational. Thank you so much sir
Great insight into the variety of batteries available. I must admit I thought they were all pretty much the same, just packaged differently. It will be interesting to see if solid state batteries ever become a reality.
Another tip-top film.... I'm really enjoying these :-) Thank you Team ECC
Started watching Vintage Voltage this week. From following Petrol Ped. And now following you. Keep up the great work.
It's good to hear that cobalt is coming out of battery technology. It's not really the case that many people "wave the banner" on cobalt are doing that to rile against the electric car industry and ignore others such as mobile phones, though, as you appear to be hinting at here. Surely it's simply that if all people in the UK who have cars now want to have electric cars in the future, the total quantity of cobalt required would be simply /massive/ whilst that required for mobile phones would remain relatively insignificant against that. We have the luxury of not being the ones who live next to the cobalt mines, nor the mines for rare earth metals used in many technologies too. All of these things are, conveniently mined thousands of miles away from us and it's quite right that people flag this up. Most of us are blind to the damage done. So, it's a great relief to hear that reliance on at least one of the 'nasties' is being massively reduced in EV technology.
I've always thought you'd have more to say... And here you go! Thank you so much.
Well done Richard. Good explanations. All the kind of stuff I wrote about for Victron Energy before I retired.
You have answered so many nagging questions I had. Brilliant explanation.
This was GREAT! Very detailed! Can’t wait to see more of these tech talks
Please talk about how to install regenerative breaks / how they work. Love your show!
Very interesting about the battery's being kept very low in the car. Also with being able to move the battery packs around, you could get close to a 50/50 weight distribution which would give it excellent handling.
Thats the principle behind most skate board chassis designs.
In something like an e type swap the rear axel for the Tesla set up...and put the batteries and gubbins where the old straight six bell housing and gearbox all went.. which way more than the rest of the body assembly. They are seriously heavy engines....let alone the V 12 versions.
I love your no nonsense plain speaking approach to this subject. It would be great to see a mix of content from you, I find the tech talks interesting but I’d also love to see some practical demonstrations of what is possible. If you have to shred tyres or drive up the side of a Welsh mountain to do it then so much the better ;-) I also find it fascinating seeing what types of vehicles you have been able to convert.
Really enjoying these tech videos. Would be interesting to see how you solve issues around heating/cooling cabin, brake servo, power steering, auxiliary power etc. that would have come off feeds from an engine in the past.
electric or take heat from battery, electric assist for brake and steering (as on a lot of current ice vehicles).
Thank you very much! It is nice to hear straight talk and FACTUAL evidence. Playing with vehicles is still alive! Love the spirit! I can't wait for more!
Excellent video! Informative and well staged. Focused video, clear audio and without the use of annoying and unnecessary background music !! Keep up the good work!
Love what you are doing!
We are a 2 EV family, going on 7 years. What you are doing is so powerful and a great resource for me to share with people I speak with.
My feedback on this video is- If you speak about global warming you run the risk of loosing some people’s attention. Your focus on the performance side of a conversation is so powerful.
A stand alone video about Global Warning with expert guest might be a good addition someday.
I would also think a video on repurposing used batteries (grid, home and RV…) would be a good + as well, but for now please keep doing what you do so well. I believe you are helping to change the world.
These new tech videos are great. I've seen your Beetle before and am pleased to be able to learn how the components all work together. I've just restored a 1972 Beetle 1302S but for my next project it would be nice to do an electric conversion of an old VW
Interesting story, finally more background about batteries compared to petrol.
More ammo for my "our electric car tech isnt your grandads electric car tech" arsenal. Much needed as I find myself in this debate constantly as of late. Holding out for some sort of electric hybrid 'upgrade' for my 17,000lb gvwr motorhome. Youve got my sub!
DONT TRAVEL. is the only viable soloution.
Brilliant explanation, alot of people are scared of range when it comes to EV cars, but what people must understand like any technology it only gets better over time. And I wont be surprised in 10 years time a EV will do over 1000 km on a single charge. And charge full in under 10min.
Brilliant video. I would really like to see more detail on the comparison between electric & petrol/diesel in terms of overall weight vs power output
I am loving this content. I am learning about conversions to start my first one this May. Thank you for doing this.
With respect to weight, a missed argument is that overall weight is no longer as important: thanks to instant torque and regen braking.
Thank you for providing this excellent technical content!!! It's a long-term dream for my wife and I to do classic EV conversions and your channel is the perfect inspiration.
I'd love to understand charging from hook-up connector in car to in-car charger(s) explaining and showing the wires/cables running to charger and/or directly to battery, level 1, 2 and level 3 physical differences why the new Hummer can take up to 341 kWh at a charge station(saw it on youtube), why the kWh's go down after a while of charging. Best electric car conversion educational channel on youtube!!! Big thank you!
My next question I'll send in will be on cooling, motor battery inverter controller :)
Here's an episode on cooling for you ruclips.net/video/DxEnBunySj4/видео.html. And one on smart charging. 👍 ruclips.net/video/PbUJYBc80cY/видео.html
@@ElectricClassicCars Thank you I watched the charging video great info but my question has to do with the car itself all items 'built-into' the car only, would be great to learn about that, thanks for all you do!
Another great video, thanks for the great info - there's always something to learn!
Video production is so professional. Amazon or Netflix should pick up your show. Amazing content and you’re a real humble dude.
Brilliant. I'll share this everytime a luddite needs to be informed about the current state of battery technology. A couple of things that would have been helpful are you could have expanded the use of cobalt to say that it is used in the refining of fossil fuels to remove the sulphur and when used in a battery, the cobalt can be extracted and recyled. The other point that would have been great to be included is what can be done if the battery pack starts to degrade. Some people think that the whole battery pack has to be slung in to landfil. It would be good to see an explination how individual cells can be replaced. If that is the case and I'm not talking rubbish myself!
Although Cobalt us indeed used in the petrol refinement industry the volume compared to the EV battery industry is fairly low. There's a good pie chart in the first few pages of this report that you might find useful. www.cruxinvestor.com/articles/the-ultimate-guide-to-the-cobalt-market-2021-2030f#:~:text=Cobalt%20is%20an%20important%20raw,pharmaceuticals%2C%20steels%20and%20glaze%20materials.
Thank you once again for lovely content. For the Q&A: How easy is it in the UK to get conversions on the road, approved by the DVLA? This seems very difficult in Norway due to law that prohibit this kind of radical alternation on vehicles. Guess for the new project, that the world´s never seen : The Tesla powered 4x4 Soviet Trabant.
that might overpower its road holding capability
Trabant is not Soviet but East German ! 🙄 In Hungary, electrical remodeling has already been done at home. 😃✌️ruclips.net/video/E5lu5Wj471I/видео.html
This Trabi is 10 years old and it is a legal one, today the electrical conversion is no longer allowed, so it will be transferred to Austria, where it will be licensed and brought back to Hungary! 😂 🤣
@@janospeto831 Good point! Cool conversion! :)
Great presentation! How does a w201 Mercedes look as a potential conversion candidate. Curb weight was around 1200 kg. They are numerous still, handle great and well built. Drag coefficient was very low for the time. I love mine but feel guilty about the diesel.
Absolutely brilliant video. Loved the petrol / battery comparison and the details of the different battery packs and there uses. Really looking forward to the next one.
Excellent video!! I'm a maker type with gear-head experience and I'm getting more and more interested in EV conversions. Thank you for being such a great resource of useful info! Can't wait to see what you're building! Cheers.
Very interesting and informative. The silhouette of the vehicle under the cover looks very vintage. I have a 1948 Anglia sat in my drive under a cover and it looks similar shape. I also have a Tesla model 3 so that's a real contrast.
Hello,
thank you very much for the very detailed explanation
of the different battery types. Your videos are very entertaining and inspiring. I am
already looking forward to the next topic.
Recently, I talked to a friend about transmissions in an
electrical conversion. When would you use the original gearbox and when would you
not?
Does it make sense, for example, to continue using the
automatic transmission in a Mercedes SL?
Love thies video im now starting to understand the basics of electric cars
A great explanation of the differences and as long as you can park off the street and fit a home charger there are very few reasons not to have an EV.
great explanation, easy to understand and i appreciate your enthusiasm
You are such a good teacher, Richard. Can't wait to see the mystery car. My guess is, (oh, gawd, I'm probably miles out), a Renault 4.
Richard's new mystery car: compact and upright shape, probably 4WD to better get the power down equally... a Fiat Panda, maybe? 🐼😜
Great video, informative and very clear. An engineer with modern tech. knowledge who knows how to explain it
Can you cover DC fast charging with EV conversions? It seems like most conversions only have level 2 charging capabilities
I love the show. I got introduced to it because I watch my favourite youtuber Petrol Ped Pete, and he said he was getting involved in the show. This was a very informative video and very interesting to watch.
21:30 Do not forget to include fossil fuels in that list, because cobalt is used to desulphur gas and diesel. That is also a one time use, whereas you can recycle the cobalt from batteries. 🤔😎
Great video Richard. Not too boring - I liked the detail. I reckon your new project is a Ford Popular 103E
I totally like the comparison of kWh and energy density between batteries and petrol This is really cool to hear and to learn about! First video that I see for this particular comparison. Well done!
Just a clarification that if you live in a climate that requires you to heat the cabin of the vehicle a significant amount of the time then the efficiency calculation of the ICE needs to include the waste heat that you are using for that purpose. When you consider the EV you readily notice how much of the battery capacity you end up using for cabin heating since you don't have all this 'waste heat' from combustion.
Look forward to how the DC gets converted to AC, and how controlled. ie , more info on the Inverters, how they are rated and paired to the Battery Pack and Motor. Thanx, and keep up the great presentations.
Very interesting and honest video. I find using graphics to convey data points is often easier on the audience, still getting my head tuned to Kwh/Kg. This years project looks intriguing, maybe a 1970's Japanese hatch?
Great explanation i think that will be handy for a lot of people…I understand the arguments but I still think weight is an issue…but I’ll counter that with battery technology can only improve…power density and weight 👍
Great video! I really want to see the details on your Tesla Land rover conversions - How you mounted the motor/What you did to replace the handbrake/ the controller you used/ why you used LSD's over lockers/ power steering pump/ brake vacuum etc... Love your work!
Thanks for the great videos😀 When it comes to cobalt, it is worth mentioning that cobalt is used to extract sulphur from crude oil. People who is against EV's have a tendency to forget that. Keep up the good work 🍻
63kg of lithium in a 70 kWh Tesla Model S battery pack. Doesn't help aid the argument against child miners in Congo.
@@BombSponge Lithium isn't mined i Congo
@@briantarby675 True
Fascinating and explained in a very clear way that I could understand.
I am really interested in having a second car as electric but people keep saying that batteries are only good for 8 yrs? And so expensive to replace that the car's are only worth scrap value where as my fiesta petrol car is a 09 plate still going strong I wouldn't like to spend all that money and only getting 8yrs could you please do a talk on the period of life for batteries and the cost of replacing them thanks again for doing these videos 👍
That's a good topic to add to the Q&A session we'll do. Thanks. In the meantime, talk to real EV drivers on their direct experience. Don't listen to those those that don't own one as there's a lot of FUD around. I've had an EV for 5 years and haven't seen any noticeable battery degredation yet. 👍
@@ElectricClassicCars I have spoken to a ev driver who has a Tesla he leases the car because of the 8yr battery life ? That was his choice but I don't know were his information came from that's another reason for trying to get some clarification on this matter as I have no clue about electric cars thanks for your reply looking forward to hearing proper answers on this matter as I at on the fence at the moment but keen to change to ev car thanks again 👍
That's freaking awesome 👌 I'd love to have one of those.
Very, very insightful! Maybe you could also cover the overall configuration of an electric vs ICE car: what parts go in, which parts come out and which parts stay (e.g. gearbox yes/no).
Thank you so much for this follow-on episode. You answered most of the questions I posed after episode one. 👍✅
Very informative although you didn't really cover the bulk problem of batteries, i.e. chewing up luggage space in conversions especially. But your Kw comparison figures were enlightening and a useful guide to how batteries are developing. Good video, thanks.
Great video. Very informative on all the considerations needed in converting a car to electric. Only thing not mentioned is price of various options.
another brilliant video! debunking those myths again these are great!
I am very curious about hub motors. Super nice to eliminate a lot of components, but I understand the unsprung weight penalty. Does seem like an easier conversion option.
Very interesting! Petrol has great energy density but engines don’t use it efficiently. Batteries aren’t as energy dense but they don’t need to be due to the massive efficiency of an electric motor. That’s what I learned from this. Also, battery tech is improving daily and swapping batteries is relatively easy. Petrol has lots more stored energy so bigger explosion I suppose too when it does go all at once! Batteries are far less likely to explode too. Thanks for the video!!! 🙏
Aww this is the best RUclips channel in a long time I’m absolutely hooked!! Just wish there was endless videos to watch, your new project would be absolutely amazing if you could show us through the steps something like project binky did would be a dream!!! 🙏🙏 also could you help inform about more of the negatives people focus on with electric cars, and let us k is what your thoughts are about the battery’s being unrecyclable ?
Fantastic video.
Keep the Tech Talks coming.
Something about maybe designing the electrical circuits for use in these conversions? Typical schematics (fair enough if they'll be 'just' an application of 'recommended' charger/inverter/batt manager circuits - but bonus if aren't paywalled)? (or even the 'right' set of google keywords to find them, fair enough)
Love to see a weight comparison, before and after your conversions of some of the cars please.
Very informative, excellent- keep up the good work- but don’t forget that the fossil fuel industry uses a huge amount of cobalt as a catalyst when removing sulphur from petrol and diesel fuel in the refinery…
Correct, but to be fair it's not as much as goes into EV batteries. But on the other hand EV batteries are already going Cobalt free, I doubt the petrochemical industry will be doing the same. Here's some good info on where cobalt ends up by industry. www.cruxinvestor.com/articles/the-ultimate-guide-to-the-cobalt-market-2021-2030f#:~:text=Cobalt%20is%20an%20important%20raw,pharmaceuticals%2C%20steels%20and%20glaze%20materials.
Excellent Video
There are two ways to look at energy density.
Power per weight.
Power per volume.
Certainly for conversions and upgrades, volume may be as important or more important than weight.
There are some notes that a new battery coming in the near future (Gemini) will have about twice the power per volume as the Tesla packs. They are also looking at multiple different battery chemistries.
One comment I saw as more cells in parallel, tighter packed, would produce less heat and require less cooling. Thus allowing larger packs to be made using space wasted by the cooling system.
But, of course, one has to make sure the system is stable under multiple different conditions from too hot to too cold to rapid discharging to rapid charging.
Anyway, I could imagine a future episode that would discuss power per volume, and perhaps different battery chemistries.
Great stuff! Don't forget the REGEN!!
What a great video! Just discovered your channel and I'm thrilled, really good stuff. You can tell that you thoroughly know what you are talking about but your are not using complex details to impress the audience, keeping it to essentials to get the message across, very good approach, much appreciated.
Fantastic RUclips channel... I'm not a EV lover. But I do love cars and tech. I would love to convert a 944 but have had hard time to find a kit that fits. Keep up the good work I looking forward to see som more insights into EV... I'd rather bye a car and convert it (a good daily conversion) than go to a car manufacturer and paying twice the money I did four years ago for more or less the sam car (segment for example a Peugeot 208 ... Swedish krona about 130k sek five years ago 300k sek for a EV today)...
Thanks for a good pair of videos - engines v motors and battery v petrol. In this one you did say that people talking about weight rub you up the wrong way. But to be fair you did go on about weight a lot in the first video when comparing the ICE to motors.
I can certainly see the attraction of electric cars but at the moment choice and cost are the main blockers for me personally.
I'll certainly be following your channel though as it is very interesting and entertaining.