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Imagine being the loser who pays for this.
Imagine being the losers who pay for and play WoW.
@@zxbc1 imagine not playing wow and still following news about the game. What a looser.
@@neoikake Imagine not being able to spell "loser".
@@neoikake Also, I follow news because I enjoy watching dumb people for entertainment. It's like Jerry Springer but with WoW players.
@@zxbc1 No, you are just an idiot.
Ban it, ban it now and never look back.
That wont make your blue parses go away tho
@@Plard1337 no it wont but, this addon will make ppl alot more toxic
@@umad0p if being selective is synonymous with toxic to you, you sure mustve gotten carried alot in the past ... too bad they banned gdkps where carrying bad players like you was commonly accepted and known, amirite ?
@@Plard1337 man plard really excited to be a toxic asshole XD my buddies push speed runs and beg me to come play with them and I tell them no cause they are toxic assholes who only care about parses
@@Plard1337 Says who, you? I'm a PvPer but okay bud, let's see your parses! I said this because it makes the whole game toxic, just like how toxic you were with your response. Get lost.
I don't really appreciate excusing bad practices just because someone else can do it, or it's happening anyway but with extra steps. The easier it is , the more accessible something is, the more it becomes a baseline, the more people will adopt it. This add-on is a good example for why add-ons in multiplayer/competitive games are almost always banned/disabled.
"The future is here" is also a terrible excuse/reason because it is mainly used to deflect from the wider context and handwaving away responsibility.
Ultimately, though, the ball is in blizzard's court, and if they don't take action, it's their own fault for whatever happens.
I mean people made the same doom and gloom claims about damage meters. Look where we are now. Literally everyone has some damage meter mod. What Xaryu said about easier access to information is true: it'll get more and more embedded in our lives and also our games. People are more and more used to instant access of information, and technology is just delivering what people want. It's also not entirely as you say "deflect responsibility". By making everyone's performance "transparent" you're removing friction in raid invite filtering. It's going to make some people happy, and some people angry, but it's not going to fundamentally change how people play the game. For example, even with damage meter being ubiquitous, many raids still don't use it to judge people's performance to the point of alienating them. It's up to the people participating the raid to decide how much they care, and if they really do care, no amount of friction will stop them from caring. In fact, I'd say that damage meters has reduced a lot of bickering about "who stood in the fire" type finger pointing, because you can actually check to see the facts. Raid logging has done the same more or less, it's made people more responsible to own up their mistakes than if it didn't exist. In fact, people in general have improved their raid performances hugely with the help of raid logging, and it's made raiding a much more pleasant experience for a much larger section of the community. Of course you can always focus on the toxicity that came along with it, but that's just myopic and extremely selective bias.
@@xfKYZacTri No thanks.
@@xfKYZacTri Not gonna work technically. What are you going to do? If you limit number of addons, people will just pack multiple addons into one. If you limit actual API calls, it'd be extremely unfair to some addons that polls data more frequently, and overly allowing for potentially toxic addons that poll very casually. If you limit based on size, it'll unfairly punish well made complicated addons over simplistic amateurish ones. Besides, even if you could somehow devise an extremely fair and robust measure to "limit" amount of addon use, it still doesn't solve the issue of people using the most popular ones for toxic reasons. Because, in the end, it's people who are being toxic, not the addons.
The idea that people just need to get better if they want to participate ignores the fact that they are talking about a game. Its recreational - too many players treat it like a job. Like they have a wow career, with a cv and a resume
This is a paid addon. It breaks ToS. It should absolutely be removed. The argument of convenience for not having to alt tab out is such a poor argument when you know that the vast majority of users will use it to gatekeep the community. If an addon promotes gatekeeping then it should absolutely be removed, especially when it clearly breaks the ToS of the game.
Meh just get better?
Blizzard doesn't care. Only takes a min or so of looking around to know that there have been paid addons for YEARS. Take the Zygor leveling addon and others like it, as an example - all paid addons. And not once have Blizzard banned people for using it or done anything to stop those addons from existing even though it is breaking ToS. This will be no different.
We need to stop having these ridiculous expectations for Blizzard to do the right or sensible thing these days. All they care about is money.
@@oregonsdank You can be the best player in the world, but breaking ToS is break ToS. Just make the addon free and my argument is invalid. It has nothing to do with skill, but thanks for showing your elitism.
@@Alucardd-tt8eb they only have to have a free'ish Version of it or a Trial Version to make it in line with toc... and they will once demanded by blizz...
Is it paid forever? it sounded to me like it was paid for the beta, I dunno if they plan to make it free upon full release though.
Do you shackle and sleep two bosses in ST? Do you press buttons in Gnomer? Well your parse is low, and you’re a bad player! The dude hitting into lighting totem, he’s actually good!
Everyone who says gatekeeping is ruining SoD. Last night I was in ST with a frost mage doing 50-70 dps on Eranikus and he was dying early almost every pull. We ended up not clearing. Not saying that was the only reason but unironically if he was a better player alone we killed cuz we got him to sub 5% and sub 3% multiple pulls. Oh and I almost forgot the hunter doing like 70-90 dps with half of that coming from his pet. There is a reason things like logs exist.
People forget that there are worse players than even the worse players they know and they flock when the gate opens up. I remember seeing a Hunter on XT HM in WOTLKC hitting the boss in melee and half of his gear being in blues with one green. Raid leader should have kicked him there but it was mid-late Ulduar and we needed a couple people to do any dps to flesh out the raid team to 25
no one plays this game for fun anymore. I finally realized that and quit in p3.
W. This gives gray parsers easier opportunities to band together to give each other the experience that they bring with them.
The issue with parses in classic is that World Buffs adds way too much variance.
and consumables too, imo, logs should be based in logs without WB and consu
If driving speed limits were regulated by public vote.. we'd all be dead.
Also I’ve been pretty apathetic getting world buffs, did it last week and went from avg 60-70 to avg 93 without DMF on my war.
I like the potion for st, but would be happier if world buffs were irrelevant. I don’t wanna get griefed outside goldshire for an hour to boon a buff that determines my skill as a player. 🤷🏻
Log, as a raid tool, is fantastic - problem with it is that people usually, like 95+% of the time, wont take the time and effort that it needs to be accurate. You can evaluate the skill (not perfectly, but close enough) of a player through it, but if you only check the big parse number you are just not using it like you should. Logs can also be rigged, remember that.
I am all inclusive. Although i only am playing hc classic. Ill take a low level or somebody who might not be agreeable. Being willing to work with people you don't prefer builds character
I use addons but I would pay an extra dollar a month for Blizzard to outright ban all addons. I use addons because the game is basically mandatory for them but I think the game and the ingame culture would drastically improve with addons being bannable.
1 whole dollar??? Wowzers!!
I've been playing since vanilla, I enjoy questing, I make enough toons to cover all professions. With RL I play sporadically and don't have time to do raids, so I just solo quest to get to max level on the toons. But these add-ons just make it so when I finally try to go to a raid, I'd probably won't get invited. So casual players like me will say oh screw it, I'll go play something else since I can't get a raid invite due to ppl relying on addon. I notice this in LFM incursions groups. The poster would say must have addon & other requirements. And BTW, I also notice every guild where I have each of my toons in seems to have a huge drop in players online. One guild even has a GMOTD saying I'm putting the guild in hibernation. It's been fun.
Get a guild, getting an invite to a pug is a privilege that you need to earn, why would someone choose you with no parses or bad parses over someone who will perform better?
basically every group lead is looking you up on wcl before sending the invite anyways this rly doesnt change anything at all but save a few clicks
@@Yams42279 Pretty much this. Yup. I just don't invite people who hide their logs.
@@ToadMagic it's wild that all the people that cry over "gatekeeping" don't understand how much of a determent it is to have to teach someone the raid or deal with wipes when if you don't one night clears your lockout is wasted. Literally had to 17 man last 2 bosses the 2nd lockout with my guild because we couldn't find 2 warm bodies to fill the raid
Elitist game that drives away casual dies. Haha who couldn't see that coming.
THe addon costs more than a wow sub. lmao.
Can’t charge for addons on wow it’s against their tos seems wild they would
Rested exp and the other level addon charges for their addons for a long time...Blizzard doesn't care that it's against tos
@@MajorJeffersonno the addon is free they charge for the guide. There is a big difference that’s why it isn’t against tos for rxp
@colindunham6684 ....stop acting like its not what it clearly is. Stop being dishonest.
@@MajorJefferson truth hurts man but it’s really not against tos because you can download the restedxp addon and it gives you a guide to level up still. Just not as good as with the other guides that you can pay for
Did Xar miss that the Archon addon costs $25 a month?
Assumed that’s why the video was over 20 minutes, but most of it had nothing to do with the addon.
Could have milked more content if he read more than just the title.
He truly is clueless on top of having shit opinions
@@josephl9931 I don’t think he has shit opinions. I just wish we had his full opinion. He’s gotta read more than the title to give us that.
People say it's too much job to play but i spend like 3hours per week to get worldbuff and raid (more if dmf is opposite faction side)
And for the addon it's only an issue if you are bad, try to play only with people with your numbers and see how fun it is lol
Is SOD worth getting into still? I dropped out after level 25
lol, apparently not.
If you can find the right guild for you, I would say so. If let's say the content in this video worries you, try to find a guild that is casual or open to easy-going progression raiding.
No way. Find something else that respects your time and isn't full of toxic 30 year olds.
Only if you are leveling.
stay away. let this game die for the sweaties. they can jack themselves off some more with their 99 parses and play the game with all the other 99% parses and wonder why everyone left the game when they are the only ones left.
1:21 that logic 🤡
"If I was not doing it, somebody else would". Cringiest shit opinion ever made. Im surprised Xaryu agrees with this. No respect for him anymore
what version of wow does xaryu prefer
A guildie said it costs $25/mo. Insanity 😂 The only people this screwed is the casual/new players. They will NEVER get into pugs. My first raid with my guild I parsed all gray except for 2 greens. 3 weeks later I parse all 95+... it took time to learn my character, rotations, and most importantly the boss fights. You can't learn the fights well if you can't get into raids in the first place... You can watch YT videos, but that can't substitute for actual experience. Not to mention, how can you get better parses if you can't get into raids? It's a catch 22
20man raiding is the exact same as retail mythic raiding. It doesn't work on retail raiding. Having a mandatory 20 is not a good idea. It requires a roster of 22-24 and each week you're forced to bench people or go without 20. Flex raiding is the solution
Unironically if you don't enjoy sod raiding, try out retail
Everyone already judges you based on logs. This is just a massive time saver.
Only reason its going to be toxic is because random people (not forming a group) will shit talk lower parcers when normally most trolls would take the time to open up logs to talk shit
none of my toons are on wowlogs, I remain in obscurity to your training wheel addons.
Someone else can log during a raid and your character’s parses will get uploaded anyways
@@forfold you can hide your logs it’s an opt out system
@@Da5kone001 oh interesting, thanks! I didn’t know that
Good thing I will never see you in ANY of my groups :)
@@ToadMagic thank god
4:54, Pandora's box has already been open for a long time now, Internet is Pandora's box........Box that can never be resealed.
Agree with it or not - charging money for the addons is kinda wild. (Edit: when the way to make them is free and the cost is more than my wow sub....cmon man.)
raiders prevent other people raid, that's why. Number of raids drop. thanks to their obsession for parses.
When I use logs to make groups it doesn't mean I'll only invite top parsers, but I will try and save at least a few slots for some pumpers. But I know that's not the case with more people.
our 10man merged with another 10man now we are about 6 from one 3 from other and just replacing new people every week, everyone dipping so fast
Do you think this is mainly a mythic+ issue? If people weren't so afraid of bricking their keys, would this problem go away? Or is this a deeper issue inherent within the game itself?
Its a dark day when WoWCrendor of OMFGCata fame isnt immediately recognized. Dude deserves more respect!
I think there is a place for 20man AND 10man content. I would love to see single boss encounters in giant rooms like onyxia stay at 40man, with MC at 20man, and ZG at 10man as an example.
The sad part is all the people that flocked to classic because it wasnt retail are partaking in all the same behaviours that made retail what it is today. Its a constant reminder the landscape of gaming has changed. Now I know not all players advocate this but when it seeps in the early adopters take it and boy oh boy does the vast majority follow suit REAL damn quick....
Parsing score is reliant on your teamates heavily, anyone that thinks a parse score considers you good is braindead lmao
this
back in the day when they didnt exclude parses due to specific boss mechanics i parsed orange on the firelands bird boss... it was like the only time i got to pick up the feathers and obviously with that insane damage boost i got big dps. :D
So even boss mechanics affect parses, but only a select few are allowed to do those mechanics since the boss design doesnt allow everyone.
Always played in a guild myself so noone cared about parsing. Ultimately the only thing that matters is if you kill the boss or not. Parsing is equal to speedrunning a game, its a competitive system in a non-competitive game. Should be opt-in but the community makes it mandatory because of their egos.
I would guess usually people who dont have the skill to be successfull in pvp are the ones who make parsing such a big deal because its significantly easier as the bosses never change, like players do in pvp. Bosses only get easier with time and gear, pvp doesnt... atleast not higher end pvp.
World Buffs are annoying af to worry about. We are already so buffed up in SOD we don’t really need them anyway.
The inconvenient truth is 40 man raids is the backbone of the classic community.
Uh no it isn't. No one wants it, nor does it have anything to do with this. Literally tf does 40 man raiding have to do with this? By the way since it's the backbone, if they introduce it to endgame this season it will literally kill it. 40 man raiding is a complete relic no one wants except the rose tinted players who never, and STILL don't want to actually bother raid leading and forming the 40 man themselves.
@@chipchippahson I agree 100%, 40 mans are a fun novelty and it is cool to have a massive group of people taking down a big boss, but they're a logistical nightmare and a complete inconvenience.
@@deltacojames7325 Amen to that. Nailed it.
To combine the topics of the add on and bringing up why sod raiding is lower. I would love to do the raid but I am unable to get in any because I don't have any logs because I can't get in a raid to get logs and this addon just enforces that even more and it's more accessible to actually gate keep people out. I feel like the way raiding works with wow logs in general is that job requires 5 years of experience but you need the job for experience.
Sod needs 40mans. None will care about parses when just getting full group is difficult
7:06 You need good gear to parse well so that's not true at all. There's also luck involved with things like trinket procs and not getting targeted by mechanics. Sometimes you also need to ignore mechanics or play degenerately to parse very well which means having a group to back you up. The duration of a fight matters a lot which is also group dependent. Parses don't show if you're capable of interrupting or prioritizing adds. This is a terrible idea.
I feel the problem with SoD is the level bands - damn would it be nice if we could just do stuff. Looking forward to the next seasonal iteration, hopefully without level bands
theres nothing new under the sun, true that
When SoD was announced and we found out that raiding would be 10 man this gave my group of friends the ability to raid “Classic” together that didn’t require 10/30 other people. Our IRL group could hangout outside and also raid at night and it gave us that back in the day feels.
The swap to 20man kind ruined that now we’re forced to rely on 10 other people to log on at our raid times or be forced to put their spot. Hoping lvl 60 brings more 10 man content..
The other great game by Blizzard (Diablo 4) doesn't have damage parse logs at all. You can't open chat and see how much dmg you stuff does there. Unironically this should this should be applied to WoW
Toxic addon, blizz needs to shut-down the armoury.
Bro the addon literally just does what everyone already does. Gnomeregan showed that no matter how much classic players wanna be classic they still cannot face the fact that they are retailers through and through all of them. This is so dumb because the majority already looks at logs and cares about performance. If you really wanna RP then retail RP is where the game is actually chill and people just enjoy the game. People already check eachother logs before PuGs. This is just proof that Classic players act like they are Classic players but they have the same disease that Retailers have, and people just want to gatekeep as it is in their blood and nature.
Like using something to Gatekeep I don't care - Cry about it.
But the Addon is literally breaking the rules by being behind a paywall. It's rule #1 there's no ambiguity about it.
RIP SoD
Marcus Aurelius and Dostoyevsky! 2 great authors! You're well read Mr xaryu
...and the WoW Reaper takes another step forward.
00:02:47 bro that had nothibg to do with logs.. and everything with that u dont have a fixed id anymore
I miss when WoW was just a game.
I’m in the top 98th NA guild. I feels this.
is that what you put on your resume too?? XD
Exactly as Xar said. I'd just alt tab and check logs anyways. People are blowing this out of proportion.
The only real problem with this is that it's a paid addon.
Nope. Logs in general is the real problem. Nobody cares about your 99 parse that plays casually.
@@GIGACHADChadsmongold didn’t ask for them to care 👍
This is more obnoxious than anything I’ve seen in retail
Xar. thanks for covering that topic.
We all need to spot that addon absurd.
If those bastartds with payed addons want be here. Let them be in jail.
If Bliizard will no do something, players will do.
We pay to buy a game.
We pay sum for a game
And we have some people who have addos with exclusive content...
I think same things were happening in Vanila Burning Crusade 2007-2008.
Then we got more or less controlled addons.
Then macros were more under controll.
WAY too much automation.
People need to start listen game
read game
press buttons themselves
know when and how to press
And then we we talk about skill.
Now we have addons who popo, bam bam pipu piu tra tra cra cra
Move you ass, dispell, run, come together, etc etc etc etc >>>> Automation
they people complain that content TOO EAASY. TOO EASY CARL :D
Blizz should disable all addons for one season with new raid to see how easy content without addons :D
AHAHHA LMAO
Lots of haters not gonna like this but Xar my dude you should consider starting Throne and Liberty
Game has improved drastically
2:03 and people (probably yourself) said the SAME EXACT THING ABOUT GEAR SCORE.... what did that change? And better yet, What did it change FOR THE BETTER? Nothing. Nothing at all.
My mage is 92 parse in st. I cant get any higher. But im ok with that
Gearscore has returned....
yeah man this is just life, your always being judged. It sucks that it creeps into our leisure activities but thats life. You play a local pickup game of basketball people are still going to try and pick and choose the best players.
Id never pay for this service but honestly anyone complaining about log culture are the reason log culture needs to exist. Tldr skill issue.
Elitism to play a fucking stupid game, I weep for humanity.
You and me both
Ppl saying it costs money so it's TOS what about Rested xp? It just has a loophole that it has a free version
You're right. Zygor also uses a subscription model that breaks TOS. Blizzard doesn't care.
It literally breaks TOS and its still valid in game. I guess if Zygor can get away withit...rip SoD enjoyers
Parsing, raid/curve achievements, gearscore are so bad for the game, where are the days that you just took people, explained tactics and helped people out when they failed, give them pointers, tips etc.
Nowadays everything has to be fast, without wipes or you get kicked.
Retail wow players should stay away, far away from classic versions of the game.
I miss the day where high deeps was well okay, but could you kite, cc properly, watch your aggro and still have good DPS? that was skill, learning a rotation, get bis gear and run like a maniac is not skill.
Nowadays as a tank you can not loose aggro, Braindead dps have no clue about cc, kiting etc.
Yes logging is fine if you as a RL actually read the logs correctly. Do we (as a group) do enough damage to kill the boss, more is really not needed, which mechanics do we fail at, why does player X keep dying, what shit is he standing in, Is the healing output high enough to complete the fight, etc, READ the complete log not the amount of DPS of a certain player.
Raiders will get extinct at some point because most players will not even get a chance to learn fights, mechanics or raiding in general.
So if you use this add-on the only thing it tells me is that you want to get carried heavily!!! Time is not an excuse it is a game you should enjoy progression 56 wipes but hey we got him 2% lower, thats raiding not, I am out we wiped twice now.
So if you want to raid and have an Alliance toon on Mirage Raceway EU, contact an Officer of Prestige we don't parse, we explain fights and we try to make people better.
Luckily my guild is the same way. I can parse high, but really dont't try to. Same with everyone else in my guild. A clear is a clear. We laugh at people who make their whole identity around their parse. Those very same people are the ones without kids, a wife, work at walmart, and live at their parents house.
I'm willing to bet blizz will take action against this type of addon, if this gets widespread use it will make it very hard for casual and below average parsing players to find a group and eventually lead them to quit the game
That's why they won't do anything about it, to flood more people into retail to pay for tww
Nah nah nah. Let's let the who wants to use it download it and install it. Then when blizz gets rid of it everyone using the addon gets an additional ban for a week because they like to make sure others can't play.
Not being able to parse above 80 in sod is mind blowing, like why are you guys even paying the sub?
@@itouchbuttonspaid addons are bad its basically pay to win / pay for convenience. Regardless of what the addon does its bad for the game.
@@itouchbuttons hahahahaha keep dreaming
i mean the most guys look up the loggs on another Monitor anyways, and im not wiling to use 100g of Consumes and try to do my best when there is someone afk all the Time with false runes that do dmg like he is Level 25 still. And there are allot of People who Cleared the Raid but didnt do Shit like Zero Consumes, Zero Dispells, Zero movement and Dead at every Fight. I personaly Raidet when i was Young and i now Work every day too, but a real WoW Player and i dont mean these Retail log in Dungeonbrowser Andys, loves to Progress and if it takes Time it takes Time thats why u go Raiding. And if u know the Tactics and u Cleared 1-2 Times u dont want to Start over again and Need 4 Hours to clear just because there are some Boomers who log in every 2 Weeks and deside they want to Raid today. I Raid to show the best of Me, for the excitement and for the Archievment to say we finaly did it and ofc for the Gear to performe even better
How is this not the exact same thing as raider io, they are both just addons that gatekeep people for no reason.
This is coming from a person who has group lead mythic 20+ of every dungeon with randoms in the group finder since BFA without issue.
Honestly wow players should start boycotting every addon that isn't just quality of life improvements, but that will never happen.
i did start paly sod becus of the 10 man raids, and now i play only 10% of the time buecus i dont pug with 20 man and the guild raids then im at workl all is saved the i have time to raid. and it summer in Sweden ppl will play less then.
"make questing slower" reading the quests makes leveling not just about 2 times slower, but also more engaging and meaningful. thats literally how you supposed to play the game. it's already IN the game.
just watched a streamer level in cata pre patch who was wearing heirlooms, rushing at breakneck speed with a tunnel vision, not reading any quests, no professions, not even taking roads just taking shortcuts across the zones, spamming dungeons, and complaing the ENTIRE TIME how fast the leveling is. like no shit?? and now all the minmaxing and gatekeeping in SoD that supposed to be casual? the community is the problem
"the community' has almost run off everyone who enjoyed playing the game to play a game and enjoy it. Now were left with sweat lords who are in most cases worse players.
They literally gave everyone double exp and introduced a new system that broke leveling in multiple different ways for phase 3. I appreciate the SoD devs a lot, but lets not lick their boots too much here. They fucked up the P3 leveling experience really badly.
@@Zenith-ly7pr didnt they do it bc many ppl complained they dont have enough time to do everything before a phase ends?
it is crazy that addon are breaking the very firt rule of TOS without any reprocusions,
1.Add-ons must be free of charge.
meanwhile all thes leveling tools are payed, this archon is only available to 25 dollar month patron subs..
Its great! Better data about people! this should be INGAME
Go find a woman dude. This game isn't meant for you. If you cant find a woman. Go no-life it on retail. the sweaties welcome you with open sweaty arms.
This has to be banned. My logs are pretty good but this will create only bad things in terms of communication within the game.
This is legit awful.
Another thing is that logs don't necessarily say how good someone is. There are people who got blue logs because they play with "just ok" people but when they swap to a guild or group that is better their logs improve as well due to kill-timers going down so your CDs have a much higher up-time in terms of combat-time.
this
If you invite only 90 parsers, nobody is going to do mechanics :)
Well, the truth is - if you only invite 90+ parsers, nobody needs to do mechanics.
@@Zzarth it's like they've never watched a parsing run even one time. boss dies in less than a min 90% of the time.
Interesting
How dare you measure performance that should be illegal
It’s not blizz at this point… it’s the players that are making WoW suck… I’d rather play on an empty server than play with min max elitists, this shit has killed WoW. I’ll keep playing but like I said I rather play by myself than with people who will only play with people who have beat the game.
agreed. sweaties ruin everything. even a version of the game that wasnt meant for them to be sweaty.
go go go go hahaha
I wish my wife played WoW with me.
Don't wish abuse on your wife.
I would love to see the logs of these people complaining about being gatekeeped in SOD raids. Especially for DPS classes. I mean we ran 25 man raids in TBC and wrath classic, yet I hear a bunch of people complaining about a 20 man raid. There is no winning with some people. If you want 10 man only raids then maybe Cata is for you.
I miss the days when people just played the game to have fun. As a person who can't use my right hand like I use to do to finger amputations, I am not going to be pushing up the numbers people who live on logs. Another reason why I help when I can and am not wanted in group content.
My favorite game was Ever Quest, because it had a community Love 72-man raids. World of Warcraft lacks community now with all the cross-server, multiple game versions running and refusing to consolidate servers. Today's gamer just wants insta-gratification.
Yall listen: if you hate parse culture, join a casual guild. It’s easy. Every guild is struggling to have 100% of their rosters log on. Just join a group of like minded people. If you subject yourself to LFG, then you subject yourselves to the rules of LFG.
Where does it say in LFG that logs are a requirement for LFG?
This addon is against the TOS, being a paid addon. YES, Restedxp and Zygor are also against ToS.
Difference there is that with RXP and Zygor you don’t actually pay for the addon but for the guides. The addon (at least the RXP one, not completely sure about Zygor’s, but it used to be the same) is free to download and used and make your own guides with it
@hansthienpont5328 was gonna say, RXP is free to try and the runes are updated each phase without needing to pay.
Its very good for catching up with alts.
@@hansthienpont5328 having a premium version of the addon is against ToS
i dont get why people is mad on this addon, people is doing since tbc with gearscore and achievements
It is past time to remove all addons. Accessibility addons should be added into the core game. Bezos is successful because profit drives the bottom line. Blizz can make more money improving the quality for all instead of just parsers. Ditch the addons. Parsing is more akin to work than play.
Get rid of logs completely first. Then addons. Logs ruin the end game for casuals and new players. Which drives them away, and all their is left are no-lifers, and the sweaties just jack themselves off by showing the same parse everyone else has because theirs no bad/ok players left to show off to.
Logs are stupid in the first place they dont measure your individual ability to play your class they measure your entire groups ability to get all the buffs you can and not wipe
If there really is that many people who hate parse culture then why don’t they all group together and roll the dice on how many if anyone knows what to do in the content and two if they’re even equip to do the content then go ahead but at the same time someone in all greens and no logs will never have a single chance to get an invite from the “parse culture haters” but your classic experience is about the culture right?
Blizz Need to stop This.. very very fast
the problem is i played with people with high parses and didnt clear ST and played with green/gray parser and cleared ST easy. my guild raid grp is parsen greens and some gray we got 1-3 with good parses but we clear it in 1-1.30h so it says not allot about we player. our raidlead parses gray because hes watching everthing and makes callouts so hes not really konzentrating on his rotation.
parse in autoattack content... nice
The elitists will die on the hill they stand on. Leave em to it. All live service games need a fresh influx of new players constantly to stay healthy, if you’re cool with creating tools to turn those people away, don’t be surprised when at some point in the future, you don’t have anybody left to play with.
lol, sod parses
i quit sod because it got wayyyy too sweaty. Im old and work 50 hours a week, I dont have time for this shit.
Great! Now you can gauge a player's entire worth just by hovering your mouse over their plate so you can be even more efficient in gatekeeping where instead of doing a whole ass interview over tells, you can just hover your mouse over them, call them trash and move on! This is sarcasm btw, this shit blows.
25$ per month to have this addon noyone will have it expedt super sweaty players
dude reads dostojewski in his spare time and survives daily twitch chat? built different.
The issue with the WCL addon has nothing to do with raiding, and everything to do with EVERYTHING ELSE. If I run into a dude doing the same quest as me in the open world, he doesn't need to know my parse. If a gal is forming a BRD run, she doesn't need to know my parse. And neither of these people would have any reason to look it up. With the addon, they will immediately have that information regardless.
Also, hi Xar!
Just own your blue parses bro ... man up instead of crying
@@Plard1337Anklelicker, Lone Wolf NA.
Idk I think we just stop playing with people who parse, gonna get an addon that checks if you have it, and not invite:)
So you don't want to play with the top 20% then...
It’s the same for me but just reversed. We refuse to play with anyone that can’t two seconds to log their encounters and then try and get better.