Porsche GTS Lightweight Manual is brilliant so, this or GT3 which would you take?
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2023
- Porsche 992 GTS. manual transmission cars are getting scarce, yet Porsche understands the appeal of stick shifters which means, rare as it is, old school manual versions of the Porsche 911 GTS are still with us.
And having that choice available is wonderful, yet with the PDK semi automatic gearbox being such a fantastic transmission this manual shifter needs to be at least as equally impressive,
And so, to find out if pulling that stick and pushing that clutch can be as fulsome a driving experience as the snappy PDK and to find out if this lightweight package GTS can challenge the GT3 as a driver's car, join me Roger Bailey on what is going to be an excellent day of Porsche driving.
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I picked my brand new 992 GTS last friday and I haven't slept or stopped smiling since - it's the most amazing thing ever...ever!!! Brilliant review by the way!
you have a brilliant car there
once again Roger knocks it out of the park, brilliant indeed
My favorite model of 911 that you can actually purchase ❤
That was brilliant that you were able to drive and compare 3 shark blue 911s back to back! I personally love my PDK 992 GTS as the best overall package. Thank you for the video!
The biggest advantage of the GTS compared to the GT3 is the torque.
GT3 for the race track, but definitely GTS (manual!) for the road.
Great comparison- so difficult to choose without trying. GTS lightweight Manual with buckets or sofas would be awesome😊
I’ve also borrowed a ‘23 911 GTS from Chester Porsche whilst my Boxster was in the shop. Fantastic car (PDK) fully spec’d. Almost too much power for local roads. But easy to drive, comfortable and practical enough to use daily.
chester are very generous with their loaners !
Where’s your number plate?
nice to see you putting miles on my car Roger!!
Your car? just bought or recently sold ?
just bought 🙂didn't realise it was famous 😂, also looked at your old spyder 😍
Brilliant and fair review Roger. The GTS is so close to the 3. For me I love the firmness and NA engine in my 3. However just helped a mate spec, order and rcv allocation to a GTS. He's not a track guy or spirited drive guy, so it suits him better. That is a beauty of the Porsche 911 range, something to suit everyone.
thanks and yes theres something to suit all drivers
Thanks Roger love your content. Wish we saw more of it! I appreciate the time and effort you put into it. Thanks mate. 😎
Thanks Mohamed appreciate your visits, I’ve got a couple more videos in the pipeline however Jilly is unwell now so it’s a challenge to get out in cars, - best wishes, Roger
@@RogerBaileyOnCars oh no man. Wish her the best of health and ease for you. At least you’re doing what you love for the love of it! Comes through in the content mate. Wishing Jilly full recovery…
fantastic review this Porsche GTS manual is certainly very very desirable thanks
Glad you liked it!
Diva. Great video Rog. You go from strength to strength with these brilliant films.
Thank you ❤️x
Manual for sure!
I think it depends what you want the car for Roger. I’m on my second GT3 and love them as it’s a weekend toy. Have recently done the Porsche Silverstone Experience and drove the C2S on track. Much softer and easier to live with than a GT3, still hugely capable and rewarding to drive. If I was using a 911 as as a daily I would defo go GTS rather than GT3, otherwise for fun and sense of occasion on weekends, it’s a GT3 for me! NA 4.0, revving to 9K…..
This sums up my views too,
I'll be controvesial here and say I would take the GTS and I suspect others would too if the GT3 wasn't such a rare beast which goes up in value and not down. great video very enjoyable
fair point
Nah GT3 is a special and unique experience, …..GTS is really a Carrera/Carrera S experience just turned up slightly if we’re being totally honest
I dont know about that. The NA engine develops and delivers power very differently, The ride is much stiffer, even uncomfortable vs. the GTS in some case, the GT almost requires FAL for around town use where the. GTS doesn't as much. Both phenominal cars, but I think the differences are enough so as not to be a slightly turned up difference.@@jameswillard1
I once loved manual shifting but these new double transmission have gotten so good, I can do without the shifting. These new cars make you lazy lol.
Hi Rog, certainly one of your best videos yet. Full manual for me please. Nice matching jumper too.😊
thanks John this vid seems to be getting lots of views, it can only be my nice jumper that's doing it
I would definitely retain the rear seats. I understand why some would delete but I think it’s part of the 911’s character and seems to miss something without them.
yes keeping the rear seats makes sense
@@RogerBaileyOnCars AeroKit is a must imo
When your jumper matches the car!
A car with the aim for a trip down to the pub 😂 Yeah, good save with the line after that. I think a GTS with an aero kit and PDK is the perfect amount of power and capabilities for the road and track. Good review as always.
i wonder if we'll get a centre exhaust and better diffuser on the 992.2? great video thanks
Thank you for making this video. After experiencing a GT3 Touring I ordered both a 718 Boxster 4.0 manual and a 992 T manual (Touring?) for less money. Now I have 2 very different driving experiences.
you have a couple of great cars there
@@RogerBaileyOnCars Thank you, I have been transitioning from 356's and early 911s to newer Porsches.
Less down time, for free time.
Which is the better car/drive?
I like your Shark Blue jumper. Great review.
Thank you 🤗
Roger what another great video. I always look forward to your content. Do please keep it coming. I'm fortunate to own a 991.2 GTS (Targa) and think that GTS's are great all round cars, giving you a bit of everything.
thanks. that 991.1 Targa GTS is super cool and a gem, I owned one once, best wishes - Roger
@@RogerBaileyOnCars Thanks for replying Roger, yes I watched your video on that, yours was stunning! Mine is a 2018, similar to yours (used). You also inspired me to buy a 718 Spyder (2019 model) as well! All the best - Dan
Will collect my PDK GTS within a few days 🙂 Like the review ! Where can I find footage of the independent testing of the 'real' GTS power ? Tnx
Great video thanks. I’ve got a 992 Carrera S and I’ve now driven all 911’s. I’m changing mine for a manual GTS, it doesn’t get any better than this in terms of a purist driving experience at this price point In my humble opinion. 👍
thanks Steve yes the GTS manual doesn't disappoint
Good job Roger, as always👍🏼
Could we please have a similar comparison of 992 GTS vs 992 T please…..both with manual of course😊
Thanks, will do !
I would definitely own a manual 911 4 GTS coupe. Personally, prefer the hands on approach of shifting through the gears. ⚙️⚙️
I'd go for the a T Manual, more performance than anybody needs (on the road) and cheaper than a GTS by a significant margin.
good choice
Superb
Very good
Nice review, I have a Shark Blue 992 GTS specced in a very sporty way, but with the back seats. I love it and is the best car I’ve owned to date. Definitely over 500bhp as you say, and it is rapid in any gear and any revs, pulls so strongly in any situation. Faster than a GT3 in the real world in my humble opinion. Only place a GT3 would be quicker would be on the track. Head over to my little channel if you want to see my car and a recent road trip to Ireland. 👍🏼
Certainly the PDK GTS easily out drags the manual GT3 - I’ll have a look at your channel 👍🏼
my dream car, i hope to buy one after my first car (which i have to get after i graduate my 4y course because my dad wont let me buy a car beforehand)
sadly i wont be able to get a new one since the 992 would have been in the past by then but i'm really hoping there will be a blue manual gts (with aerokit) on autotrader left by the time i can buy!
The GTS with a manual gearbox should delight most 911 drivers and is the most perfect 911 for me as an all-rounder. The GT3 is a track tool and also a legend, but unfortunately without a manual gearbox, which is why I would go for the GTS.
My sweetspot was the 2019 991.2 4 gts.
Pdk for me. Always mauals when younger, even after they became slower.
Not now. Pdk is too good, and Im too old for the fuss! 😆
Great review Roger fabulous car and the colour Shark blue I think. The biggest problem and a nice one is if I had the budget which 911 to go for? The Carrera great value, or the S, then the sport or the GTS. Decisions, decisions.
there's no wrong choice although the GTS seems to hold its value better than others
What colour have you ordered Roger ? Awesome video. ❤
Thanks Martin, well ….my next car won’t be shark blue again, still got your Boxster ?
@@RogerBaileyOnCars I’ve got the Slate Grey 987 3.2 and the Cream 997 3.6 - both amazing specs with all the options and extended leather etc and PCCM+. The Lotus Emira came this Jan did 4k miles and hated it ! Kept thinking I should be in a Spyder ! Making a decision shortly on a 25th Anniversary or Spider ! Watch this space ! You should come to the Fairmile meeting in Chobham this Wednesday !
Great video again Roger. You really lucked out getting 3 Shark blue 911's together. I'm not so sure your assessment is 100% accurate. I have a feeling the new 992 Carrera T will be the pick of the bunch for use on our roads. And I think you need to do a new video comparing the new Carrera T with the lightweight Carrera GTS, both manual versions by the way. ;-) Thanks Roger for the entertainment.
you're right, we need a Carrara T to try, thanks -
Great review sir. Here in Canada we see slippery road conditions before the snow comes. Hence my preference for a C4 version. (Although I doubt I'd drive it in winter, too much salt)
But if I had to choose for pure driving pleasure, from what I've seen so far, I'd say a manual Carrera T with a few add ons (APR Stage 1 remap [500hp], Fr Axle lift, Night vision, etc) seems to be THE one to own. I know I like it! ;-)
Cheers
thanks and good points you make, hope you end up with that Carrera T sometime - best wishes - Roger
Thank You! ;-)
Great work here. What is your preference on a GTS vs S manual and why?
I'd take the GTS because there is better engine noise, nice options as standard and there's extra drama of its appearance, that said the differences are small. oh and the GTS has better residuals.
I changed my 991 GT3 PDK for my 992 GT3 manual a few months ago and love it for its focus. I was lent a 991 GTS a while back and to be honest it blew me away . I really liked it as a daily driver. However I would really like to have a go in a manual Carrera T . I’m sure that would be sweet and probably all you really need. However …If you can get a GT3 build slot you would be nuts not to take it from a financial view .
Brilliant video - how lucky are you to have access to these superb machines. I know the 718 GT4 is about 50bhp down from the 992 911 GTS, but if both are manual, what do you think is the better driver’s car?
Many thanks for the great films👍🏼
thanks Barry, best drivers car can be subjective, GT4 is sensational but given the choice of one car I'd likely take the 911GTS
@@RogerBaileyOnCars Nice one Roger. Your opinion is most valued. All the best.
I'd keep it simple. Manual gearbox rear driven and maybe splash out for Pastel orange or Viola metallic. No point going daft with options or you lose value for money.
That GT3 sure shifts/sounds like it has a PDK.
Your thoughts on PASM Sport VS Normal PASM.
THIS IS IT. BEAUTIFUL! I am on the fence. 2024 GT4 or the GTS! Whic one to pick?
GTS
Ooops! I missed your video from yesterday 8-((...
You see, the football season kicked off. _I have other priorities as a Gooner since '66!_ ;-))...
However. Great video again. And while I used to love a manual 'box, since I had my 330d coupé in 2013 that had an auto 'box, I wouldn't buy a manual again.
You get to a certain age and you change. But don't get me wrong. _"I still drive like I just stole my car... Well... Almost!"_ ;-))...
I trust that Jilly is slowly on the mend? Give her my regards and I'll keep my fingers crossed for her ;-))...
Still your _No1 Stalker!_ 8-))...
ahh a gooner - great! - thanks for your positive comments once again, I will pass on your words to Jilly, her condition isn't one which we can expect improvements unfortunately however we take pleasure in each and every day, best wishes from RB & JB keep stalking
@@RogerBaileyOnCars _"...her condition isn't one which we can expect improvements..."_
As they say; *_Sh!t happens to the best of us and there's nothing we can do about it._* We just have to buckle down and make the best out of a bad situation. Sad but true.
But I'll still keep my fingers crossed. _You never know..._ ;-))...
My ideal Porsche is the Carrera 4 GTS with a manual.
I’ll keep my Spyder! ;)
A difficult choice for someone who is familiar with a few 911ses and Flat-6 Porsches. The GTS and 4GTS are very good choices and great cars to drive. With the lightweight pack, I would prefer a manual gearbox. Otherwise, the PDK. Plenty of oomph and a fair amount of daily usability (with the Comfort seats) if you don’t opt for the back seats delete and opt for the nose lift.
Nevertheless, If I could, I would choose a GT3 Touring with the manual shift, despite the car’s limited appeal as a daily. As a matter of fact, I think I would go for a Carrera T. The basics with bags of soul and 911 DNA.
T is great car for average person and is cheap … sound more vacuum cleaner than old school 911 ethos
I wish the gts had a 6spd
There’s no questioning your Porsche enthusiasm pedigree Roger…… but those multiple door slams with the window down🥴sorry I couldn’t let that slide🤣and it’s manual all day every day.
yes that door slamming cant slide, I'm admonished
So many careless (or thoughtful?) people in your neighborhood leaving those cars lying around. And now the 911 S/T is going to complicate the (hypothetical) choice even further.
not going to be many ST's lying around but I'll keep checking
Great you can take a GTS towards the turbo in spec or towards the GT3. That’s where Porsche options makes the most sense. But seriously Porsche, reverse camera and auto dimming mirror as options?? That’s taking the pss.
it feels almost insulting when you add those required options at a price to your new car order form.
GTS in 991.2 or 992 is as quick or quicker than GT3 in many situations, mainly because of the torque, most of which starts from around 2500 rpm.
No really...award for stating the very very obvious
Manual, Manual, Manual. *👍
Looks like he took his foot off the clutch having left it in gear at 2:43. Not a dig, just made me chuckle.
good spot !
Why are the brake discs so rusty wow
GTS manual
doors keep getting slammed
Why all of these RUclips videos showing Porsche dealers with tons of cars others than the suvs in stock ready to drive? Our Nashville has none lol. Maybe three coupes that are already customer cars
Porsche can now put out this sort of car without cannibalizing their true GT cars......if only Ferrari would start doing the same.
Carrera T ruclips.net/video/yULjzUjEgu8/видео.html
we need to find one to verify your choice !
@@RogerBaileyOnCars lots on the used market Roger. I expect there’s a few in Reading too.
It's getting tiresome and boring seeing a new model come out almost every week. Been there, done that. Move on.