We cant deny also that the agency responsible for this isnt doing direct tangible actions, there's so much red tape (like the rat video) where the agencies are just pushing responsibilities around each other then ultimately find a "3rd party pest control company", it's slow, ineffective and results are mediocre
1. The main issue is bird droppings, not the birds themselves. 2. Large populations of the same bird species can cause issues. 3. Reporting bird-related issues is frustratingly difficult (One Service). 4. I tried to report pigeon feeding, but NParks asked me for excessive detail (the timing, how often, type of feed etc). It felt like I was working for NParks.
Should just come to the blocks near Toa Payoh mrt, the old people feeding them will ignore you when you tell them nicely not to feed them, everyday the ah ma walks her route got about 3 crows and 5 pigeons walking behind her. My estate now really like zoo got chickens la, rats la, pigeons and like 5 family generations of crows.
Another bigger problem is that the forested area cleared for residential use cause the pigeons to find home at residential area. It happened to my area. There weren’t any pigeons until a forested area next to it was cleared to build flats.
Wild boars and monkeys issues are also due to clearing of land for development. Basically it is our own human selfishness that leads to these animals issues.
This is a very well-made documentary that provides perspectives from different stakeholders / experts in a balanced & succinct manner. Personally I am a huge fan of pigeons as they are fat & intelligent (kudos to CNA mentioning this at the beginning!), but I'm against feeding them as it's not healthy or sustainable for the pigeons. The culling of pigeons is inhumane, may affect other species, and has been shown to be ineffective in population management (e.g. in Basel, Switzerland) - especially as the root cause of food supply is difficult to adequately address. I am fairly certain that the culling measures suggested by the government in Jun 2024 will fail. Hence, would definitely be interested if CNA does a follow-up in 2025/6 on why the government is / isn't exploring alternative measures (e.g. the oral contraceptives suggested by ACRES with an automated bird feeder; or "supervised pigeon houses" where dovecotes are specially built for the pigeons, enabling humans to regulate their distribution & food supply, and easily replace their eggs with fake ones - saw this implemented in Tübingen, Germany and thought it was a great & eco-friendly idea).
U know nothing will be done when they go “ we will monitor the situation or please continue to monitor the situation and if it happens again do inform us “
Ask yourself, why 20 years ago there was no such issue? I hardly see any pigeons in the neighborhood back then. And there were very few birds. There was still lots of forested area in Singapore back then, the natural habitats for birds. Now with deforestation and much fewer forested area in Singapore, birds are forced to find homes in buildings not that they want to. Human create problem and now want to kill other beings for the problem they create.
I also used One service and reported the pigeon case, but they claimed there's nothing they could do. People will only talk about animal protection when in fact these are pest issues
it depends on what problem the agency is in charge of. if it's under town council, the problem is fairly quickly resolved. however if it's NEA, which this pigeon issue is under..
Your talking point series is excellent! I hope you keep making it. Besides being so relevant to us in this part of the world, you also bring in a balanced view point with input from experts with lab tests
😮🙏 " Muttley , Don't Just Stand There , Do something! " Sorry , this CNA Insider episode reminded many of their childhood cartoon : Dastardly & Muttley! In a more serious note , yes , professional helps should be consulted to tackle these bird problems in our HDB residences & our beloved hawker centres for the health , safety & maintaining the peace & beauty of our Garden City! Thank You So Much CNA Insider for another enjoyable social safety guidance episode! 🙏🕯🌷🌿🍎🍊🌏✌💜🕊🇸🇬
the portion of the video where the guy reported 3 times on the one service app goes to show how government agency, especially the GRCs like to play taichi and wayang. At the end, nothing gets solved
If LKY is still around, he will never allow this to happen as cleanliness and living standards matters to him. That's why reported a huge rise of case in over years
Tampines has lesser pigeons now, BUT the number of crows grew in numbers. On a tree along Tampines St 83, it houses 30 if not 40 over crows in it. It's like a scene from Resident Evil with crows flying around. Now that the harmful pigeon poops are gone, crows which is almost at the top of the food chain are getting high in population and they post a threat to humans. Especially when toddlers are near. I'm always worried when my daughter gets too near to a crow afraid that it might attack. And we know crows can grow quite big in size. But again, it's not that we get crow attacks every other day. well~ Please look into this issue~
I think recent months suddenly crows start appearing again.. there was a period during covid days back then.. hardly saw any crows.. i live in tamp st 83 too.. so i know.. but pigeons still an issue at coffeeshops.. prowling the grounds of coffeeshop.. 🤦🏻♂️
@@junyupeterng15 if you noticed also, Mynas and Sparrows are getting lesser while the Crows and Pigeons are expanding. Animal or Bird lovers shouldnt get in the way of human health when these are affecting how the citizens are going about our daily lives. That is what I would prioritise.
It really boils down to whether the authorities are committed towards solving this problem. Just like subletting HDB illegally, they know the enforcement do not work on weekends and after office hours.
NParks too nice, loneliness is no excuse to cause a nuisance to others. Old and lonely can commit crime? Our elders are most known for listening to government, be strict enough with them and they will just be forced to move on to other potentially healthier obsessions.
"The government agencies shouldn't be educating residents about feeding pigeons. That is the wrong approach. You should start off with punishments and fines. That is the right way."
@@muliyanto5097get educated. you’re not supposed to feed wildlife - monkeys, pigeons because like you just said, they’re WILDlife, not pets. you feed them and they populate and become pests. You sound hella uneducated
I don't understand why people like to feed pigeons which causes pollution with pigeons' waste. Authorities doesn't seems like need to do something to those pigeon feeders.
@Jon-bf2rs what NPark explained, they couldn't execute the penalties on offenders. They need full proof. That's the reason, the feeders won't afraid of those penalties
Great episode. We had roosting and nesting on our aircon ledge for a while too, cleared their nest but they kept coming back. Reported on the app and MP was nice enough to sponsor netting after block repainting…. It solved the problem for me haha. Not sure which neighbor kena them now
Watched the whole video. Punchline:- Punishment for the pigeon feeder in various towns to do the job of daily pigeon feeding with contraceptives food for a period . Can work?
For Ornithophobia (for especially pigeons) like me, going out in the day induced panic-attack to me. I can hardly eat in the coffeeshop or hawker centre in the day with my family or anyone! I have to walk away the moment I spotted a pigeon. Watching this episode is extremely painful too. My life in the day is restricted. Who can relate to me? 😭
These pigeons has more rights than us Singaporean. The reason NEA turn a blind eye to this is because they are afraid of the animal activists. It will garnered international backlash if they start culling the pigeons. They like to use " monitoring " in fact it means " ignore " in that context. I remember there was a case where a resident was so disturbed by the pigeon problem he report to the authority many times, all came back with " we are still monitoring " replies. So he set up traps to deter the pigeons, he was fine with $5000 for animal cruelty.
My observation, open food packages thrown near rubbish bin, those uncle feeder, the new big HIP laundry rack making them easier to stand and just hang around. The pigeon even have the audacity to come inside our kitchen to poop then leave.
Main problem is SG no more land animals have to squeeze with humans and live together. Last time there will be plots of land/forest in between blocks and towns now all chop down build buildings. Animals living in forested area have no habitat has to come out.
I used to work in the industry. You need to raise feedback directly to nea feedback form for high rise littering and liase with fellow neighbours to do the same. Multiple feedbacks can result in nea placing camera for enforcement. Get nparks involve also for pigeon feeding.
Interesting, I guess I finally have the answers to the sight of poisoned pigeons near my place a few years back. Up till now, I thought they were done in by people out of malice.
AVA finding daily feeding with the contraceptive laced food unsustainable? And yet we have a problem on recalcitrant bird feeders all over SG. Didn't anyone in AVA see the solution here? Really?
I remember 60 years ago when I was a child, birds would fly away before I could even get near. Now they hardly flinch even when I am right next to them. The SPCA will not like what I have to say but If we do nothing about this, birds will eventually evolve to dominate humans.
In a lot of coffeeshops, there are bird poop on the chairs. The chairs are never washed or wiped. Then you see everyone sit on the chairs and lean on them. And have to use hands to hold the back of the chairs to move the chairs.
"Wild life finding their own food"? Is he hearing himself correctly? We are almost left with very few natural resources in our own lands, and you suggest animals to go fend for themselves? This interview is basically a public showcase of 2 parties playing tai chi between each other.
i think the irony is the gov's "soft authoritarian" style compared to the policies implemented to solve problems, like realistically public education is useless without enforcement. All the agencies only know how to stay in the office but when called to go on the ground all the do is a quick inspection to run the SOP, nothing tangible is being done on the ground. So practically all the feedback platforms (app, meet the people etc) are inefffective bc the furthest action there will be is informing another agency, then the agency run its SOP and problem is unsolved. It's just an endless loop and gov agencies cant be bothered to fix things. Maybe Talking point can delve into this lack of accountability by gov agencies (tho a little idealistic lol), pretty sure this isnt the first video about societal problems persisting because of a lack of enforcement by relevant gov agencies.
Town council HDB and NEA must work together to rid this problem. Otherwise you call town council they conveniently refer you to HDB. You make appointment and Q up for HDB, they point at NEA. Called NEA they point at AVA. Nobody wants to take responsibility. End of day see MP. MP did something. My question is why are we paying these agencies their salaries from taxpayers' money if we are going to handle the problem ourselves??
Nobody read sign boards to find out what they can or cannot do, unlike those placed on the gate and fence of restricted areas. More so for old people if they can't read. Even then, most warning signs placed in the open are too small to be seen, unless you take the trouble to walk closer to read them. To be effective I think the sign board need to be big, like 1x1 meter of a large bird with an X, shouting at everyone.
Humans should be ashamed on this coz they made the pigeon domesticated instead they survive in their own instinct in the jungle. Pigeons are loss in todays world same like beggar wandering the street
For my block, the housing agency did do a poll to whether install a net to prevent pigeons. Unfortunately it did not go through as there was little to no pigeons in the area. Btw area is Punggol
This ongoing issues will never end as long as people continue leaving food offerings in public areas without cleaning up the mess. That's the main reason we're still breeding and attracting pigeons. I feel the government is too lenient in handling this because of religious sensitivities. When will the government implement stricter rules to prevent people from leaving their food offerings out in public and causing problems like this?
Thank you very much for bringing up the subject of concern. Ever since my block been thru the HIP (Housing Improvement Program), the traditional mini laundry pole holes were removed and replaced with the "so called metal T-rack for laundry. However, because of bird shits everywhere on the T-rack, I am not able to hang my clothes out for drying anymore. Worst of all, the pigeons / crows fly into my toilet bowl in the kitchen and drink water, Does the gov solves 1 potential danger problem and create another problem? This never happen in my block b4 HIP. Please use your brain. Dont let things happene, people compkain and kick you and then you roll. Be more proactive... That is what you are highly paid for....
When pigeon problem is caused by clearing nearby forecasted area for building BTO flat and the pigeons find their new home in your house, who is responsible?
Govt keeps import immigrants to boost the economy in the past, resulting in overpopulation in Singapore. This is the root of many problems including frequent mrt breakdowns - the train system cannot support so many people.
Yes very dangerous.My best friend die because of pigeon bird poops that drop on his hair during rainy day.At first he didn't notice anything but after few weeks he feel headache but still didn't go to see doctor.Until one day he fainted. When he went to the hospital it's too late.Doctor xray can see fungus on his brain. RIP my friend.
I reported a few times to town council and nea. Nea replied that at the time of feeding, they come down to check but did not see any feeding. Very strange as on the day they said they come to check, i noticed feeding. So i dont whether nea came to check or went to the wrong place, wrong time??? It has been years since and feeding is still going on, and their poop is on the ground.
Bugis/ Rochor area got old people feeding pidgeons. Dempsey Hill got an ang mo couple driving blue 2 seater BMW feeding the chickens and mynas in the early morning.
Sg ppl need to knw the pigeons are not just birds but pest. All these feeders think that they are doing good deeds. But they clearly dk what the side effects are. More education is needed not just fining them.
"The government agencies shouldn't be educating residents about feeding pigeons. That is the wrong approach. You should start off with punishments and fines. That is the right way."
They are pets left alone to die and not pets. If you would know anything about pigeons you would know that they breed despite getting fed and that they only can be controlled by feeding, housing and replacement of their eggs. Maybe you just hate animals, or you're stupid idk
The 🐦 toy models are so cute and clean as compared to the real life ones... 😅 20:22 Where do we get these! Can i put them on the ledge to scare away the real pigeons?
@@spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace waste time, police will ask you to refer case to NEA, then NEA will say they will "monitor" the situation and nothing is done. Report to Town Council they will say same thing. 🤣
Seems we're focused only on pigeons. What about crows, mynahs and the sparrows? Do they pose the same level of nuisance and danger to our health? Is it also illegal to feed them?
My area mscp beside Blk 15 Farrer Park road always have this uncle feeding the pigeons on daily basis .the banners and warning signs practically useless.installing a pigeon netting at the aircon area will cost about $800.nothing is improving
Flying rats. But then again people also wanted ACARS to safe rats too.😢 The way these pest multiply, even after an asteroid strike! They will still be around.
In Malaysia, klang valley is also having the same problem Where madness feeding the pigeons is at no control at all The amount piegons pooh that we have to encounter out from these madness act of feeding from the neighbours Worse.. These piegons making nests.
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Sg has a pest problem. From birds, rodents and cockroaches.
This problem is largely man made. Waste disposal is increasingly important.
Yup, i have personally seen people (mainly elder) feeding birds and cats.
The pest are actually humans. Irresponsible and erratic. Don't blame the animals
We cant deny also that the agency responsible for this isnt doing direct tangible actions, there's so much red tape (like the rat video) where the agencies are just pushing responsibilities around each other then ultimately find a "3rd party pest control company", it's slow, ineffective and results are mediocre
the pests come from the low ses majority in the heartlands
@@geeeforce yea i mean, maybe not enough education about the repercussions of their actions or they lack the means to afford a pet etc
1. The main issue is bird droppings, not the birds themselves.
2. Large populations of the same bird species can cause issues.
3. Reporting bird-related issues is frustratingly difficult (One Service).
4. I tried to report pigeon feeding, but NParks asked me for excessive detail (the timing, how often, type of feed etc). It felt like I was working for NParks.
a thought, how about giving the contraceptive seeds to the bird feeders?
Good point but we just worry it might be pick up by other species that we need.
Should just come to the blocks near Toa Payoh mrt, the old people feeding them will ignore you when you tell them nicely not to feed them, everyday the ah ma walks her route got about 3 crows and 5 pigeons walking behind her. My estate now really like zoo got chickens la, rats la, pigeons and like 5 family generations of crows.
why tell nicely, just take pic and report
Report town council
Do you explain to them that it is a health hazard due to their droppings and these boomers can meet their maker due to their own actions?
Let the authorities know. And if they're slow to respond, I'm going to go out of my way and to keep reporting and escalating the matter.
Dah tu? Cakap baik2 tak dengar kau maki je la org tua tu
Another bigger problem is that the forested area cleared for residential use cause the pigeons to find home at residential area. It happened to my area. There weren’t any pigeons until a forested area next to it was cleared to build flats.
Wild boars and monkeys issues are also due to clearing of land for development. Basically it is our own human selfishness that leads to these animals issues.
This is a very well-made documentary that provides perspectives from different stakeholders / experts in a balanced & succinct manner. Personally I am a huge fan of pigeons as they are fat & intelligent (kudos to CNA mentioning this at the beginning!), but I'm against feeding them as it's not healthy or sustainable for the pigeons. The culling of pigeons is inhumane, may affect other species, and has been shown to be ineffective in population management (e.g. in Basel, Switzerland) - especially as the root cause of food supply is difficult to adequately address. I am fairly certain that the culling measures suggested by the government in Jun 2024 will fail. Hence, would definitely be interested if CNA does a follow-up in 2025/6 on why the government is / isn't exploring alternative measures (e.g. the oral contraceptives suggested by ACRES with an automated bird feeder; or "supervised pigeon houses" where dovecotes are specially built for the pigeons, enabling humans to regulate their distribution & food supply, and easily replace their eggs with fake ones - saw this implemented in Tübingen, Germany and thought it was a great & eco-friendly idea).
This is the reason why I no longer eats in hawker centers.
U know nothing will be done when they go “ we will monitor the situation or please continue to monitor the situation and if it happens again do inform us “
exactly, these guys take high salary and play taichi with each other. NParks throw to HDB throw here throw there. nothing gets solved.
Ask yourself, why 20 years ago there was no such issue? I hardly see any pigeons in the neighborhood back then. And there were very few birds. There was still lots of forested area in Singapore back then, the natural habitats for birds.
Now with deforestation and much fewer forested area in Singapore, birds are forced to find homes in buildings not that they want to.
Human create problem and now want to kill other beings for the problem they create.
I also used One service and reported the pigeon case, but they claimed there's nothing they could do.
People will only talk about animal protection when in fact these are pest issues
the one service app is a monumental JOKE. Does not solve problems at all.
it depends on what problem the agency is in charge of.
if it's under town council, the problem is fairly quickly resolved.
however if it's NEA, which this pigeon issue is under..
Always complain about pegion feeders in my area but NO action is done
be quiet hater, pigeons do not deserve this reputation
Your talking point series is excellent! I hope you keep making it. Besides being so relevant to us in this part of the world, you also bring in a balanced view point with input from experts with lab tests
😮🙏 " Muttley , Don't Just Stand There , Do something! " Sorry , this CNA Insider episode reminded many of their childhood cartoon : Dastardly & Muttley! In a more serious note , yes , professional helps should be consulted to tackle these bird problems in our HDB residences & our beloved hawker centres for the health , safety & maintaining the peace & beauty of our Garden City! Thank You So Much CNA Insider for another enjoyable social safety guidance episode! 🙏🕯🌷🌿🍎🍊🌏✌💜🕊🇸🇬
the portion of the video where the guy reported 3 times on the one service app goes to show how government agency, especially the GRCs like to play taichi and wayang. At the end, nothing gets solved
If LKY is still around, he will never allow this to happen as cleanliness and living standards matters to him. That's why reported a huge rise of case in over years
Now got social media cannot rule like LKY iron fist style anymore, anything happens citizens unhappy can just post on social media.
thats why i kept saying Singapore environment has gotten much dirtier ever since his son took the helm.
Tampines has lesser pigeons now, BUT the number of crows grew in numbers. On a tree along Tampines St 83, it houses 30 if not 40 over crows in it. It's like a scene from Resident Evil with crows flying around. Now that the harmful pigeon poops are gone, crows which is almost at the top of the food chain are getting high in population and they post a threat to humans. Especially when toddlers are near. I'm always worried when my daughter gets too near to a crow afraid that it might attack. And we know crows can grow quite big in size. But again, it's not that we get crow attacks every other day. well~
Please look into this issue~
I think recent months suddenly crows start appearing again.. there was a period during covid days back then.. hardly saw any crows.. i live in tamp st 83 too.. so i know.. but pigeons still an issue at coffeeshops.. prowling the grounds of coffeeshop.. 🤦🏻♂️
@@junyupeterng15 if you noticed also, Mynas and Sparrows are getting lesser while the Crows and Pigeons are expanding. Animal or Bird lovers shouldnt get in the way of human health when these are affecting how the citizens are going about our daily lives. That is what I would prioritise.
@@xing349 why are human needs above animals?
@@xing349yes it's obvious even in Jurong. Mynas and little sparrows and decreasing in number due to the overpopulation of pigeons and crows
It really boils down to whether the authorities are committed towards solving this problem. Just like subletting HDB illegally, they know the enforcement do not work on weekends and after office hours.
Smoking issue also can't resolve. One service app (NEA) always give the same reply, and no improvement.
NParks too nice, loneliness is no excuse to cause a nuisance to others. Old and lonely can commit crime? Our elders are most known for listening to government, be strict enough with them and they will just be forced to move on to other potentially healthier obsessions.
Feeding the wildlife is a good thing, it’s just people doing a good deed to other creatures. Only a heartless peoples find it a nuisance
"The government agencies shouldn't be educating residents about feeding pigeons. That is the wrong approach. You should start off with punishments and fines. That is the right way."
@@muliyanto5097get educated. you’re not supposed to feed wildlife - monkeys, pigeons because like you just said, they’re WILDlife, not pets. you feed them and they populate and become pests. You sound hella uneducated
basically anyway of saying “not my job!”
I don't understand why people like to feed pigeons which causes pollution with pigeons' waste. Authorities doesn't seems like need to do something to those pigeon feeders.
Not that they don't want too many bird feeders liao, how to stop all of them? There was once I walk along a street for 20 mins saw 3 bird feeders
@Jon-bf2rs what NPark explained, they couldn't execute the penalties on offenders. They need full proof. That's the reason, the feeders won't afraid of those penalties
Great episode. We had roosting and nesting on our aircon ledge for a while too, cleared their nest but they kept coming back. Reported on the app and MP was nice enough to sponsor netting after block repainting…. It solved the problem for me haha. Not sure which neighbor kena them now
Like Mr Chia said, get evidence of bird feeders and report them. That is a start 💪🏼
Forever monitoring. Most used word by the govt.
What can they (PAP) do to these illiterate elder-lies ? Bare in mind many elder-lies are PAP voters. Surely, our Govt won’t serve heavy penalties.
Watched the whole video. Punchline:-
Punishment for the pigeon feeder in various towns to do the job of daily pigeon feeding with contraceptives food for a period .
Can work?
For Ornithophobia (for especially pigeons) like me, going out in the day induced panic-attack to me. I can hardly eat in the coffeeshop or hawker centre in the day with my family or anyone! I have to walk away the moment I spotted a pigeon. Watching this episode is extremely painful too. My life in the day is restricted. Who can relate to me? 😭
I'm like that as well, usually eat in malls
pigeons more scared of you than you are of them.
@@mtmt1274 I'm sure I'm more afraid of them
@@trumpmcdonaldz1510 I feel your pain. Same here or in any indoor places.
Me!
Aw! They poisoning the pigeons, that is very very bad. They are also creatures who want to live like us so bad poisoning them, Bad!
YES A RESONABLE PERSON THEY ARE BAD THEY THINK THEY ARE WEEDS?? Stupid people.
These pigeons has more rights than us Singaporean. The reason NEA turn a blind eye to this is because they are afraid of the animal activists. It will garnered international backlash if they start culling the pigeons. They like to use " monitoring " in fact it means " ignore " in that context. I remember there was a case where a resident was so disturbed by the pigeon problem he report to the authority many times, all came back with " we are still monitoring " replies. So he set up traps to deter the pigeons, he was fine with $5000 for animal cruelty.
Are you sure? Fine $5k?
My observation, open food packages thrown near rubbish bin, those uncle feeder, the new big HIP laundry rack making them easier to stand and just hang around. The pigeon even have the audacity to come inside our kitchen to poop then leave.
Main problem is SG no more land animals have to squeeze with humans and live together. Last time there will be plots of land/forest in between blocks and towns now all chop down build buildings. Animals living in forested area have no habitat has to come out.
Finally we can commence TPD
People are the problem! 🤬🤬🤬
I used to work in the industry. You need to raise feedback directly to nea feedback form for high rise littering and liase with fellow neighbours to do the same. Multiple feedbacks can result in nea placing camera for enforcement. Get nparks involve also for pigeon feeding.
So tat means there is no pigeon feeder,but a prsn who litters out of the window huh??😂😂😂
Interesting, I guess I finally have the answers to the sight of poisoned pigeons near my place a few years back. Up till now, I thought they were done in by people out of malice.
AVA finding daily feeding with the contraceptive laced food unsustainable? And yet we have a problem on recalcitrant bird feeders all over SG. Didn't anyone in AVA see the solution here? Really?
Was enjoying this episode while having my dinner until 14:55. 13 seconds later at 15:08 i totally lost my appetite and stopped eating. :')
@@roccatx1509 the thumbnail says poop already lol it was your choice to click in
our Parliament needs to empower Npark to enforce on pigeon feeders the way NEA is empowered to enforce anti Mosquito breeding spots
Woodlands area is very bad too. Town Council said they cannot cull them. That’s of course ns. 😅
Why cannot cull?
I remember 60 years ago when I was a child, birds would fly away before I could even get near. Now they hardly flinch even when I am right next to them. The SPCA will not like what I have to say but If we do nothing about this, birds will eventually evolve to dominate humans.
They are focusing more on pigeons rather than the ebikes, PAB & PMA..
yes!
In a lot of coffeeshops, there are bird poop on the chairs. The chairs are never washed or wiped. Then you see everyone sit on the chairs and lean on them. And have to use hands to hold the back of the chairs to move the chairs.
Finally CNA is addressing this issue, but till date no action is taken in my area.
Not only bird poop got bacteria ,dog , human poop also got bacteria
YES BROTHA THANK YOU THAT IS SOO TRUE LET"S STOP HATING ON PIGEONS!!!!
Bird feeders are the problem. When the food are not finished, the rats come out to help them finish it.
Pigeons aren't a problem in my district. Crows are more of a nuisance yelling day and especially night. Worst if you live near trees.
Govt plant too many trees already look overseas not that many greenery in cities so such bird problems
Town Council and Npark have failed. The risk of disease outbreak is very real.
"Wild life finding their own food"? Is he hearing himself correctly? We are almost left with very few natural resources in our own lands, and you suggest animals to go fend for themselves? This interview is basically a public showcase of 2 parties playing tai chi between each other.
i think the irony is the gov's "soft authoritarian" style compared to the policies implemented to solve problems, like realistically public education is useless without enforcement. All the agencies only know how to stay in the office but when called to go on the ground all the do is a quick inspection to run the SOP, nothing tangible is being done on the ground. So practically all the feedback platforms (app, meet the people etc) are inefffective bc the furthest action there will be is informing another agency, then the agency run its SOP and problem is unsolved. It's just an endless loop and gov agencies cant be bothered to fix things. Maybe Talking point can delve into this lack of accountability by gov agencies (tho a little idealistic lol), pretty sure this isnt the first video about societal problems persisting because of a lack of enforcement by relevant gov agencies.
Maybe can try using bird deterrent systems where the noises prevent birds from being in that area while also not harming humans?
My first thought reading the thumbnail was "Why do you want to get rid of pigeons?"
Are you stupid? Can’t you see the problem when you walk around in SG?
Town council HDB and NEA must work together to rid this problem. Otherwise you call town council they conveniently refer you to HDB. You make appointment and Q up for HDB, they point at NEA. Called NEA they point at AVA. Nobody wants to take responsibility. End of day see MP. MP did something. My question is why are we paying these agencies their salaries from taxpayers' money if we are going to handle the problem ourselves??
if they are fined with few thousands trust me, they will stop feeding
Able to do one on crows?
Nobody read sign boards to find out what they can or cannot do, unlike those placed on the gate and fence of restricted areas. More so for old people if they can't read. Even then, most warning signs placed in the open are too small to be seen, unless you take the trouble to walk closer to read them. To be effective I think the sign board need to be big, like 1x1 meter of a large bird with an X, shouting at everyone.
Good job for the video!
Threw food out of window to feed pigeons is high rise littering, a more serious offense than feeding pigeon.
stop!
Monkey and wild boar also another problem monkey issue at Bukit Timah area so many of them
Humans should be ashamed on this coz they made the pigeon domesticated instead they survive in their own instinct in the jungle. Pigeons are loss in todays world same like beggar wandering the street
yes it's our fault
For my block, the housing agency did do a poll to whether install a net to prevent pigeons. Unfortunately it did not go through as there was little to no pigeons in the area. Btw area is Punggol
Instead of them being the problem, maybe WE are the problem
not mabye WE ARE THE PROBLEM!
Bro u haven’t come to Bedok north yet, its worse then u can imagine, and worse no one bothered
Problem is bird droppings.
This ongoing issues will never end as long as people continue leaving food offerings in public areas without cleaning up the mess.
That's the main reason we're still breeding and attracting pigeons. I feel the government is too lenient in handling this because of religious sensitivities.
When will the government implement stricter rules to prevent people from leaving their food offerings out in public and causing problems like this?
Yes this! It is not disrespect to religion when all we want is a clean environment. 😢
Thank you very much for bringing up the subject of concern. Ever since my block been thru the HIP (Housing Improvement Program), the traditional mini laundry pole holes were removed and replaced with the "so called metal T-rack for laundry. However, because of bird shits everywhere on the T-rack, I am not able to hang my clothes out for drying anymore. Worst of all, the pigeons / crows fly into my toilet bowl in the kitchen and drink water, Does the gov solves 1 potential danger problem and create another problem? This never happen in my block b4 HIP. Please use your brain. Dont let things happene, people compkain and kick you and then you roll. Be more proactive... That is what you are highly paid for....
Your toilet bowl is in the kitchen and not toilet? 😅 You mean the birds fly to your toilet to drink water???
What about drunks wazzing in street and some of them even having a dump
When pigeon problem is caused by clearing nearby forecasted area for building BTO flat and the pigeons find their new home in your house, who is responsible?
Govt keeps import immigrants to boost the economy in the past, resulting in overpopulation in Singapore. This is the root of many problems including frequent mrt breakdowns - the train system cannot support so many people.
free food for birds in every single hawker ctr, how about focusing there? its only a matter of time before we kena bird flu
Yes very dangerous.My best friend die because of pigeon bird poops that drop on his hair during rainy day.At first he didn't notice anything but after few weeks he feel headache but still didn't go to see doctor.Until one day he fainted. When he went to the hospital it's too late.Doctor xray can see fungus on his brain. RIP my friend.
I reported a few times to town council and nea. Nea replied that at the time of feeding, they come down to check but did not see any feeding. Very strange as on the day they said they come to check, i noticed feeding. So i dont whether nea came to check or went to the wrong place, wrong time??? It has been years since and feeding is still going on, and their poop is on the ground.
Bugis/ Rochor area got old people feeding pidgeons. Dempsey Hill got an ang mo couple driving blue 2 seater BMW feeding the chickens and mynas in the early morning.
20:20 Free food and housing is the way increase the population... Gahmen got take the hint? lol
Sg ppl need to knw the pigeons are not just birds but pest.
All these feeders think that they are doing good deeds. But they clearly dk what the side effects are. More education is needed not just fining them.
"The government agencies shouldn't be educating residents about feeding pigeons. That is the wrong approach. You should start off with punishments and fines. That is the right way."
They are pets left alone to die and not pets. If you would know anything about pigeons you would know that they breed despite getting fed and that they only can be controlled by feeding, housing and replacement of their eggs. Maybe you just hate animals, or you're stupid idk
Finally a smart comment. Thank you!
@@John_Smith_86 Feeding pigeons does not affect their breeding
@@TodesHippie How will they have the energy to produce the eggs, if they have no food source?
I don’t see anything wrong with pigeons. It’s the human. NEA, wayang as always! Stop using the template or Chat GPT leh
Yes its the humans that are the culprite
The 🐦 toy models are so cute and clean as compared to the real life ones... 😅 20:22 Where do we get these! Can i put them on the ledge to scare away the real pigeons?
In the city that I live, beggars eat pigeons - so no more pigeon problems.
Complain to TC, what u get is the template reply plus posters pasted at lift lobby.
Many smokers smoke at hdb common area also nothing is done.
u can call police if u want to
@@spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace waste time, police will ask you to refer case to NEA, then NEA will say they will "monitor" the situation and nothing is done. Report to Town Council they will say same thing. 🤣
The first thing you notice when you come to China🇨🇳 is:
- it doesn't have many birds, no wild animals. Why?
All the birds live in forest SG no more land no more forest liao 😂😂
Seems we're focused only on pigeons. What about crows, mynahs and the sparrows? Do they pose the same level of nuisance and danger to our health? Is it also illegal to feed them?
mabye
waiting for the "oh it's cause we took their homes" comments
what rebuttal do you have to that dear sir?
@@mtmt1274 simple, I value the infrastructure for humans more than pigeons' homes
Knn my house also. All those boomers feeding the pigeons. They always hang around the neighborhood now
My area too
These people just want to feed them because they wants too
I just don't want this at all
do an episode on crows, would be interesting to watch
My area mscp beside Blk 15 Farrer Park road always have this uncle feeding the pigeons on daily basis .the banners and warning signs practically useless.installing a pigeon netting at the aircon area will cost about $800.nothing is improving
Otters also over-populated, attacking the black swans in Botanic Gardens lake.
hope theres a study on the contraceptives on how it might affect the raptors that feed on the pigeons that are drugged
Flying rats. But then again people also wanted ACARS to safe rats too.😢
The way these pest multiply, even after an asteroid strike! They will still be around.
for the aircon ledge issue, how about installing net like structure to cover from rooftop to 1st floor ledge?
European cities have been suffering from pigeons for decades and its difficult to reduce the numbers
Modern problems modern solutions
They are like us.Eat to live.Leave them alone.This world does not belong to anybody.It belong to all living things.Let all live.😊😊😊😊
Authorities should really step in. Pigeons population is bigger then wild roosters
Wait for the new HDB clothes hanger. That one can hold a party
that means ur fines are not harsh enough.
how are they gonna stop the elderly from feeding them...???
Government don't dare to stop so many elderly need the votes....elections coming
Seems like the govt is not doing enough, as always.
Handling our problem no revenue
Everyone saying to leave pigeons alone, maybe you dont realize that pigeon poop causes lung cancer
In Malaysia, klang valley is also having the same problem
Where madness feeding the pigeons is at no control at all
The amount piegons pooh that we have to encounter out from these madness act of feeding from the neighbours
Worse.. These piegons making nests.
Answer : because humans are more scared of snakes than pigeons or even rats.