Hello friends, I have seen a couple of requests for the links I mentioned to be available in another location - "Spinning Virginia": ruclips.net/video/l2yUqNgNZO4/видео.html and The Monarchs Anonymous Channel: ruclips.net/channel/UCFiE2VWlgip3cGYm9dTYiXQ From now on, I will also leave links from the cards in my description box.
They were sold into slavery by the Spanish/ Portuguise, their children were then taken away and told they come from Africa. The decendents of Roanoke still dont know they came from England, and have been classed as African American. Have seen the letters / stone markings etc have been proven to be a hoax. Look into the Popes Dum Diversas and Spanish Inquession.
A new report came out two days ago that claims they assimilated with the natives. I've seen many news stories published about it. Hoping you'll discuss that in a new video. ☺
Growing up, my family spent a few weeks every summer in a large beach house right on the beach in Nags Head North Carolina. The song is correct! "Nothing could be fine-ah then to be in Carolina in the mooooorning!" LOL! And...every year when we went we HAD to go see the outdoor play there called "Roanoke". Good play...it's not Broadway, but...I digress. My husband and I and our last remaining adult child still home (20 yr old son. He is autistic and an angel)! We've been living in Hell for the past 20 or so years. Better known to you and the public as upstate New York. We are finally making our great escape! We sold the ole homestead and are off to abide in the lovely North Carolina! I'm very excited! Mountains AND a sea coast! What more could you want!? (Oh, and very nearby wild island horses!)
Just came across this. I’m from NC. Every so often a “full” Lumbee Native Americans (Croatans was eventually absorbed into the tribe) have Gray eyes each generation. Recently, they have done DNA testing snd it appears that some DNA markers match the ancestors of those in the colony (mitochondrial, I believe).
I am the 18th generation of two colonists on the Mayflower. The ancestors were good at record keeping so we know a lot about their trades and children. My grandmother (born 1907) showed me a portrait of a sea captain named Masters in ( circa 1760 ) and he was so good looking that he could have been a celebrity. She also showed me a portrait from 1832 and that ancestor has my Dads nose and my nose! The gene was quiet for 100 years then it popped up again! I saw a photo of my great grandfather in 1918 and I have his eyes. Amazing! I am thankful to the ancestors for keeping records, cross stitch samplers, and their respect for education and hard work.
I need you to picture a grown woman, at work in her home office (read: kitchen table), flapping her hands with excitement and grinning like a jack-o-lantern. I love it when you give us an historical mystery, and this one is close to any American (former) school child’s heart. We were taught that the settlers were probably died from disease, or were slaughtered by Native Americans likely over a misunderstanding, but the idea they might have gone to live with NA in order to avoid starvation is a new one. It would make sense. I am VERY excited to hear about new follow-up to come in 2021. Until then, we can merely puzzle over “CROATOAN”. That word always struck me as so bleak. Maybe it wasn’t, after all. I’m also now a subscriber to your new project, which looks delightful. (Another reason for the flapping and grinning.) Thanks for your channel - whether I comment or not, I’m always watching, learning and enjoying.☺️
Something I find interesting is the name Roanoke itself. In school I always assumed it was an English name. That maybe it was an old spelling of "Rowan" and "Oak" or maybe something denoting a "red oak". Turns out it’s a Powhatan word for a specific type of white beads that were used as currency among the Algonquin tribes.
Thanks Dr. Kat! A big "hello" from Indianapolis! I love it when you discuss American topics in addition to your specialty of English history. The Lost Colony is one of those subjects that educated Americans have an opinion on. Many have never heard of it, which is a shame. We need to know our history so we can learn from it. You make history incredibly interesting, and I appreciate your contributions to learning. You give me another reason to love Fridays!
Since there was apparently no sign of a struggle at Roanoke, I wouldn't be surprised if the settlers saw no choice but to assimilate into the friendly Croatoan community as a means of survival.
about half of them seem to maybe have done so. but a possible site indicated on one of the old maps (in invisible ink as far as I know) has been found, which should be located farther inland. I am very curios if this new excavation will give us some answers.
If the settlers were in danger or dying they were instructed to carve a Maltese cross onto a post or tree. They did not; only the CRO and CROATOAN. Governor White's journal is available online, free to read. It is well worth it. Some of the settlers' goods were cached, including Gov. White's chest. He believed Natives had dug it up and said priceless books had been left open to the elements. The seas were high and the waves treacherous. Something like 7 sailors drowned in the landing party but it was noted those who knew how to swim survived!
So very interesting! It's going to be interesting to see what happens in the future. Btw if you ever do a video on Elizabeth I and the Tacitus translation and/or her evolving penmanship, I'll be all over that video. It's just crazy to see the changes from her letter to her brother and then in her later years when her aides had to provide a translation because her penmanship was so bad. I might be alone on how fascinating I find it. Let's be real though, I always jump on any video you put out. You could discuss coprolite or facial hair trends or when left and right shoes came into use or green dye or just about anything and I'd watch it.
I’ve always believed that the Indigenous people helped them survive with food and shelter. They took the English into their tribe and they eventually became one. I’m very excited to see the results of the new work😉Thank you once again for your videos, oh and the drawings are marvelous😎
@@mellie4174 Anciently in Anglalonde the Angles, Saxons and Geats/Jutes battled the Romanized Celts, then after centuries the Viking Danes, and then the Normans. Then (at once and over time) they miscegenated to make the "English."
I think they would have left to find resources. You don't stay somewhere in hope, when many of you are dying. Whether they were taking in by others or stayed alone is another matter. But I agree, if they were killed on site by someone you would have found at least some remains. I would like to think they moved on to find food etc, and Eleanor left the stone for her father, in what she thought was likely to be her last words to him. "I am safe, but we could wait no longer, I am sorry" xx
I love these historical mysteries , I find them so fascinating ! Please do more as it's keeping me sane at the moment . I love the depth you include , I get a sense of nostalgia from studying history . Thank you x
This is fascinating! just getting into American and British history myself as it wasn't taught during my schooling, thank you for having a clear and easy to follow style without all the dramatic reenactments and overly speculative theories presented as fact that other sources have. :D Edit: just fixing my typos :)
I grew up in South Carolina and my dad always thought a hurricane could have wiped them out or damaged their settlement so bad the survivors had to move on. Love your channel. Thanks for the topic.
As an American teacher and student of history, I have always wondered what happened to the Roanoke Colony. I had heard of the stones but the one you present is quite compelling to me in it’s internal consistency . Thank you.
Having grown up in NC, the child of a history teacher, I've always been fascinated by the Lost Colony. I've never heard the theory that the colonists tried to return to England. I always favored the idea that one of the Native American tribes rescued them and the colonists assimilated. I believe that there were reports of blue-eyed Native Americans in the years after the Roanoke colony disappeared. I would think that would suggest assimilation. But I do really like the idea of trying to return to England. Is there any evidence to support this theory? I also wasn't aware of the project happening next year. It will be very interesting to see what is discovered. I've always assumed we'd never know.
I've been fascinated by this story for a long time. My son and daughter-in-law live in North Carolina; my d-i-l's family go right back to the early years of the settlers (and have the family legend that one of their ancestors was Blackbeard, which is another fab story). It's brilliant that more excavations are scheduled to happen and interesting to hear about the stones. Great stuff. :)
I wonder if DNA is even possible. Not sure if any of the local tribes of that era have any living descendants to acquire DNA from. Due to one factor or another, a lot of them were completely wiped out.
Back in the 1970s I used to go camping / visit the Pamunkey reservation near the James River in Hopewell, Va. The residents are the decendents of the tribe of Powhatan and Pocahontas. This this very small and old reservation. Many of the tribes in the area made treaty before there was a US. The Pamunkeys still gave yearly tribute to the governor of Virginia as representative of her majesty the queen. The tribute included tobacco, venison and beaver pelts. That's how long they had been on the " res" Everyone I met were typical Virginia farmers and good Baptists. They were lovely people and proud of their heritage. I'm sure it would be similar down the coast in North Carolina so it might be possible to do some DNA testing. It would be helpful to find some decendents of the families of the settlers. Because the East Coast tribes made treaty with the English and not the Americans they are often overlooked. They are not tied to the Federal Bureau of Indian Affairs, in the same way western tribes are. They are usually not recognize at all and so don't get federal money. Another problem in the south was segregation. The indian kids couldn't go to the white schools. They didn't want to send them to the colored school for a substandard education. For the Pamunkey they had a small school house on site but it only covered a few grades. Many families went north to places like Philly for better opportunities. They just told people they were Italian. They had careers then retired back on the Res., the kids spent summer there too. So they're still around.
Some of the Roanoke settlers had relatives in England. There has been an ongoing DNA project. My understanding is that some matches have been confirmed.
Finally, on my side of the Pond. Some things are meant to be mysteries. Life here was harsh for middle class folks unprepared to live a totally communal life in unfamiliar surroundings. I have a friend named after Virginia Dare who lives in NC, a descendent of the family, who eventually did come back to live here.
Hello Dr. Kat! I love you channel, love the use of illustrations, the way you present the information, simply amazing. I'm so glad I found this channel. Thank you for all your work! Cheers from Argentina.
Christopher Brown - they were established to produce and transmit programs based on History as educational and entertaining. But that was when the cable channels were supposed to use their subscriber fees to pay for programming - without commercials.
I read, some years ago now, that some historians thought that the Melungian people who live/lived in the NC and GA mountains might be descendants of the missing colonists who intermarried with native Americans. I always mean to read up on this. Would be interested in any comments on this theory. As with so many mysteries, I fear we will never know the true story.
That is a fascinating theory and the various aspects can be dug up online. To date, so far as I know, DNA of living people has shed no light on the mystery. Another thing to keep in mind is there is indication, and I believe, there was more European trade with Native Americans and for longer times than what we know of the settlements. Many East Coast natives were said to be very light skinned.
The Melungian people have been proven to be people of European and African ancestry. However, to gain acceptance by the white community they lived with, the story was told that they were of Native American and European ancestry. Which is similar to black Americans today...many will tell you they have Native American ancestry (to explain certain features that crop up in the family) but the DNA is actually showing that the European DNA is actually the contributing factor.
Dr Kay, I love your reading of history, and always enjoy seeing your stuffed Dino behind you. Looks like he is napping in this one. Thanks for your good work. Dr Susan
WOW!!! As an amateur history nerd with a psych degree, I'm SO up for Monarchs Anonymous! As it's done by proper historians, I'll know they're basing their ideas on reliable contemporary sources, so I'll be able to start theorising myself from facts not hearsay. ...Although, if one more person says Henry VIII "must've been mentally ill" to do all the hideous stuff he did... I'll get annoying & point out that mental illness doesn't mean you're violent, & violence doesn't mean you're mentally ill. A very harmful stereotype, one of many that stigmatise mental illness.
Extremely exciting news! I can't wait. BTW, I have been learning a lot about European history on your channel and you've inspired me to dig around and learn a whole lot more. We're not taught any of these things in American history classes. Keep up your awesome videos!❤
Coffee Holic my daughter is a junior in high school here in the states and she’s learning about European history in school . I guess some places do and some don’t.
I'm always happy to see a post from you, your videos are so organized and fact based (or theory in this case) I've read some accounts that John White wasn't an efficient leader, and I always lean to the theory that the people can out of supplies and left the settlement and left on a passing ship or joined with the Native Americans.
We just moved to North Carolina and I can't wait to check out Roanoke settlement with my kids once the pandemic is over. Such a fascinating piece of history! Thank you for sharing!
I’ve always thought the answer to what happed to the lost colony would be “yes” to all of the above. Some were probably killed ( likely men) by the locals. Some ( likely women and children) were taken into local indigenous tribes. Some did die of hunger and illness, that killed off a gracious many Londoners of the time too.
God I love this channel... I am a little worried, bc I"m watching this at 7pm.... and I normally listen to you at night... you tell me a story and I drift off to sleep. I have to stay up and make dinner! You are a wonderful storyteller.
Governor White's journal is available to read free online. It is well worth the read. Apparently the colonists cached some of their goods. Gov. White's chest with books and other items had been buried but subsequently looted, probably by Natives. He wrote that priceless books had been exposed to the weather. They had great difficulty landing in the high surf. Something like 7 sailors drowned in the attempt but the ones who knew how to swim survived. Amazing, that! The first "Dare Stone" is very interesting. The rest have quite a checkered past and they read like chapters from a modern romance book. It was found in the last few years that White had pasted over a tiny spot on a map showing the mainland. It is thought by some that his intention, therefore the intent of the colonists, was to move inland and build a fort there away from the Spanish who regularly plied the coast. It is possible some of the tragedies were brought about because the ship(s) White was on decided to try a little piracy and so strayed off course for a little while. I watch this case closely. I believe it is the inland spot that is being excavated. I had hoped to volunteer for some of this archaeological work but the world is in a terrible mess and the chronic migraine I have has gotten worse. So far as I know DNA has yielded basically nothing of use.
I love your welcome at the beginning. It feels like you've invited us over for tea and lively discussion. I wish you would do an occasional episode where you review book finds. I always love reading new books! Maybe sometimes you could do a live episode for tea and discussion.
I remember being fascinated by this story as a kid after learning about it in school, that sent me on a journey to read every paranormal book I could get my hands on
@@elizabethbetts3834 Thank you! Of course you may, I'm very glad to answer. I feel like I've been reading for ages now, though. By now, I'm making a present situation of the whole topic, but I'm tilted towards the fact that they all were assimilated by the friendly natives (chowanoke) of the area, but later were slaughtered by another defensive and brutal native tribe (according to James Horn, who proposed this first). Thanks to Dr. Kat, I now know where to find the Dare Stones and take a further look at them in spite of their veracity. I think this is an interesting place to start with! P.S. btw, I'm planning on making this the topic of a Master's Degree and maybe even a PhD, who knows!.
Aliens! I burst out laughing. PAHAHAHA! Good one, Dr. Kat. When I was a child in the 1950's my elementary school had a big series of 30+ biographies on famous people written on an age 7-12 level with silhouette illustrations. I could never get enough of them and read about everyone from Paul Revere to Kit Carson. I think this series stoked my interest in historically important people and in history, both American, British and Russian. After reading Nicholas and Alexandra by Robert Massie while in college I was forever hooked on Russian imperial history, clothing, jewels, Russian art and architecture and also Russian writers like Tolstoy, Bunin, Turgenev, etc. Several years ago after decades of poor health that had stabilized, I and my husband took a trip to St. Petersburg. Oh my goodness, we spent 8 wonderful days in August -- the weather was gorgeous, got to see the Amber Room at Catherine Palace, and took the Metro all over the historic district. It was a dream trip. I would love to go back and see the recently opened Faberge Museum, Peterhof, Gatchina, and the Alexander Palace most of all. You never know when a child will get hooked on history. My parents took us to many of the US Civil War battlefields b/c when we were kids the centennials of these battles were happening so everyone went a bit Civil War crazy. It's great to show things like this to kids, get library books like the Dorling-Kindersley Eyewitness series of books for them, take them to Monticello, Mt. Vernon, etc. It's also a great idea that at the end of each school year you purchase a snazzy book about one of their interests such as King Tut, or Stonehenge, or the Roman era....whatever they are interested in. By the time they graduate they have a library of books based on their interests.
I have been fascinated by this subject since I learned about it as a child (maybe 8-years old?), and hope I live long enough to find out the the real facts. Thank you for continuing to show this subject for us!
I thoroughly enjoyed this program! I visit the North Carolina coast every year (since 1990) and I have had the pleasure of seeing "The Lost Colony" theater production in Manteo many times. The play is wonderful but it offers no answers to what may have happened- only hints (and vague!) Still is a profound mystery !
There's a really interesting book I read a few years ago, "Roanoke:Solving the Mystery of the Lost Colony" by Lee Miller. The author is an anthropologist and an Indigenous woman, and she dug into the history of all the tribes who were living in the area at the time & how they interacted with each other & with the colonists, in order to come up with a theory on what happened.
In "Roanoke," the author, Lee Miller, suggests that the English government or powerful influences in it meant to leave the colonists without support and that John White knew this-- it's an interesting read!
My family hails from this area since the 1670's, Norfolk, Virginia. And I have frequented and lived in North Carolina's Outer Banks. Thanks for such a detail-rich explanation of this fascinating story....;^ )
National Geographic released an article today where an archaeologist thinks he’s found a fort 50 miles from Roanoke where he’s found pottery that he claims is from Roanoke survivors. Others are not convinced
I would be very interested in more video(s) on this topic. I had no idea that more work on the lost colony was scheduled for this year. More info please.
I live in eastern NC and i always thought that White's account might not be 100%. It seems to me that there was a lot riding on this colony. You don't want to tell people hey when I returned everyone had perished. A nicer way to say it would be I got there there were no remains so everyone must have assimilated. I found this note that was kind of cryptic but that must be where they headed to. Just because something is written does not make it completely true. Who really knows what was found. Either way it's fascinating! There are so many possibilities.
I grew up in North Carolina and these are my thoughts. I agree that it was more likely assimilation and also know about the blue-eyed Native Americans. While I find this the most plausible reason for the blue-eyed Native Americans in the area, so much is changing now in regards to what we know about the 'Native' populations in North, Central and South America long before the 'discovery' that there is the possibility that some tribes naturally had blue-eyed members. If they did assimilate, the Chowanoke seem more likely the group they would have assimilated with due to the issues caused by the second settlement group with the Secotan, but then not even all of those tribes were hostile (with good reason) towards the second group. As someone else has stated, I have also heard about the planned DNA research. Disease and starvation seem to always be the first theories explored. Disease is always a possibility, but then again the colonists seemed to bring more illness and disease with them that caused a far greater impact on the Native Americans than has ever been reported the other way around. Starvation is a theory, but when you look at Jamestown and the possibility of assistance from some of the more friendly tribes of the Native Americans there could have been ways of avoiding this. Returning to England seems more just like a theory than any attempt as I have not come across anything or can really think of any way they would have done this unless there was another ship that appeared. It is not impossible that they could have built a boat large enough for them and sea worthy enough to carry them that far, but it seems a bit far fetched based on the numbers in the population. I had heard about the now 2021 project and look forward to seeing the results. And there are several areas being explored or which have already started being explored in the last decade including Hatteras Island, areas near the Albemarle Sound near Mettaquem and further inland up the Chowan River. There are other sites scattered around some linked with stones that were mentioned and others not. There are so many possibilities for them heading north, south, west or out onto the Outer Banks.. I do have to say that the jury is not out on the stones. More than one stone is still being studied and with good reason. If people look deeper into what happened early on about the stones, they will see why some people try to discredit them all without proper study, but this does not mean that some of the stones were not real. It seems quite possible that the group could have even split up and gone different ways as this is human nature. To me having grown up spending so much time on the coast of North Carolina, White saying the weather was too bad is a cop out. Going from Roanoke to Hatteras is not that difficult or that long of a journey. Even if he had to wait due to bad weather, it would not have been that long and it is not like the Outer Banks are difficult to explore. Yes, I know the topography would have changed in some ways, but if he could sail across the Atlantic that many times surely he could have spent more time looking and sailing in the vicinity of the North Carolina coast. You have to take what he has presented with a grain of salt as it is tied in with his success and with profit.
I don't know what to think about the inscribed stones, to be honest. I know I'd like to think they're legit, but that's all I can say. It is a fascinating mystery. Thanks for covering it.
Go to see the outdoor drama The Lost Colony is a fond memory from my childhood. Living close too the Outer Banks it's a place I have visited my entire like. It is so fascinating to see this 400-year-old mystery getting attention. I was also taught in school that the colonists were massacred or died from disease or starvation.
I have always been fascinated by Roanoke. Visited in February. I think they joined the Croatoan people, either by choice or battle. Can’t wait for the new excavations.
Hello! I have seen the stone pictured in person (in the mid 90s when my mother attended Brenau University for her Masters) and have always been intrigued by it and the others that exist. I’ve also vacationed in Roanoke and the islands of the Outer Banks of North Carolina (where Cape Hatteras is located). The Lost Colony is an important theme of tourism there, with many place names that commemorate Virginia Dare. Where might I be able to read more about the stones? The Brenau web site seems to have little, and the stones, I believe, are no longer on display. Also, I find it quite odd that any of the stones would be housed by a University located in the northern Georgia foothills of the Appalachians.
I believe that the colony was weakened by lack of food, and disease.They asked the natives for help and thus adopted.Most likely scattered amongst the band's of natives.
Howdy from Texas!! I'm so excited about the Virginia series - have to go watch the others. I'm supposedly descended from some chappy in Jamestown from early 1600's. Can't remember his name right now - oh, well, anyway. I love your videos! Love the alien abduction!! What a hoot!! Can't wait for your next video - y'all take care now!!
Howdy back from Texas too! So dang hot here! We need rain! Don’t you love Dr Kat’s channel? Be sure and watch her new channel, a rather cheeky one with Dr Kat, “the Psychologist” interviewing or trying to, the English Monarchs! “The Monarchs Anonymous Channel”.....Hilarious! Take care my fellow Texan!
I live in North Carolina and have always heard that the colonists joined up with some indigenous people and that they became part of the Lumbee tribe here in the Sandhills of eastern NC.
We were trying to figure this out during school, I wish this video was our 7 months ago! It’s very good,the other videos we watched explained NOTHING about it 🤦♀️
I look forward to seeing what new excavations and research dig up. I have been interested in the Lost Colony since visiting the area 45 years ago. I find the stone engravings and their messages problematic. If any survivors were taken by the natives, they might have been adopted into their captors' communities. Tracing DNA would be very difficult because of the 400 years of intermixing that has occurred. I am having trouble with DNA back to Jamestown in 1607 because there just weren't that many people in the colonies and they tended to marry cousins a lot whether they knew it or not. Turns out my son's dad and I are 7th cousins. One multiple great aunt married three times to distant cousins. Come to think of it, looking at the US today, maybe that explains a lot.
Thought this was fascinating. I tried to locate the video you mentioned at the start from a year ago, but could not. I would appreciate a cite. Thank you.
Thanks Dr Kat. Greetings from lockdown Melbourne. Great videos as always. Makes my Saturday morning cross trainer exercises go more quickly. I just think that the colonists wouldn’t have got into such a pickle if they had hired that other well known nautical cove, Captain Redbeard Rum as their skipper as opposed to that Simon dude.
What happened should be obvious to everyone. They ran out of supplies, and did what they needed to survive, aka went and lived with the Native's of the area. Sometimes the answer is the most obvious and boring one.
@@mellie4174 Various reasons. It is possible that the English threw themselves at the Native's mercy. People tend to forget that when John White went back 3 years later, there were no signs that they died. It isn't always about what is there, but what isn't there. If they were killed, or died due to disease, there would have been some evidence to that.
@@mellie4174 There were various tribes in the area. Indigenous peoples are not a monolith. The colonizers had beef with two tribes, due to their own sense of superiority. But starvation and bitter American winters will humble anyone. Native Americans don't usually harbor continued resentments either. After a war or skirmish many tribes will negotiate peace that was intended to last. This was an alien concept among the Europeans, btw as evidenced by the .scores of broken peace treaties agreed to by the American government. However in that time and place, the survivors of war, sickness and famine would most likely be assimilated by friendly neighboring tribal groups.
Being from North Carolina, I was sad to hear that the dig on the Cape Fear River was delayed. It was purported to be the best chance for new information ever. I have heard that the Dare Stones, at least the first two, were done by two professors at the college to punk one of their colleagues who became so excited that they didn’t have the heart to tell him. He then published a treatise on the stones and offered money for additional found stones. Thus the stones were found seemingly everywhere and the whole thing took on a whole life of its own. Even after the two tricksters confessed, he was so imbedded in his theory that he did not believe them. It was quite the kerfuffle! I believe all of the stones, save the first two, have been definitively debunked. I look forward to seeing you as a therapist!
Concerning the Dare Stone, I'm interested in what the 'savage' had to say. Message of a ship, then suddenly became 'frightened of revenge'. Frightened from his own tribe for consorting with the colonists. or frightened of someone on the ship? The 'savages said 'spirits were angry'. How did Eleanor know this? What tribes in the area believed in 'spirits' (we don't all believe the same things) and what put the idea of ' fear of revenge' in their head? The shaman of the tribe? Someone on this 'ship' that may or may not have been Spanish? I think some died of disease, some were killed by the locals, and perhaps some went to live with them but they may or may not have left any descendants, although there were reports from later explorers claiming to have seen 'gray eyed' Indians who said they were descended from colonists. The Melungeons had their DNA tested several years ago and as far I know, there was no connection found with the Lost Colony.
These are excellent questions - if the stone is authentic, how did Eleanor know the thoughts of the indigenous person she claims to have spoke to? Did they share a language? If so, which one?
Hello friends, I have seen a couple of requests for the links I mentioned to be available in another location - "Spinning Virginia": ruclips.net/video/l2yUqNgNZO4/видео.html and The Monarchs Anonymous Channel: ruclips.net/channel/UCFiE2VWlgip3cGYm9dTYiXQ From now on, I will also leave links from the cards in my description box.
They were sold into slavery by the Spanish/ Portuguise, their children were then taken away and told they come from Africa. The decendents of Roanoke still dont know they came from England, and have been classed as African American. Have seen the letters / stone markings etc have been proven to be a hoax. Look into the Popes Dum Diversas and Spanish Inquession.
The Calvert family (Barons Baltimore), especially Charlotte Lee, Lady Baltimore and her grandson Benedict Swingate Calvert are interesting.
A new report came out two days ago that claims they assimilated with the natives. I've seen many news stories published about it. Hoping you'll discuss that in a new video. ☺
Growing up, my family spent a few weeks every summer in a large beach house right on the beach in Nags Head North Carolina. The song is correct! "Nothing could be fine-ah then to be in Carolina in the mooooorning!" LOL! And...every year when we went we HAD to go see the outdoor play there called "Roanoke". Good play...it's not Broadway, but...I digress. My husband and I and our last remaining adult child still home (20 yr old son. He is autistic and an angel)! We've been living in Hell for the past 20 or so years. Better known to you and the public as upstate New York. We are finally making our great escape! We sold the ole homestead and are off to abide in the lovely North Carolina! I'm very excited! Mountains AND a sea coast! What more could you want!? (Oh, and very nearby wild island horses!)
Just came across this. I’m from NC. Every so often a “full” Lumbee Native Americans (Croatans was eventually absorbed into the tribe) have Gray eyes each generation. Recently, they have done DNA testing snd it appears that some DNA markers match the ancestors of those in the colony (mitochondrial, I believe).
I grew up not far from Roanoke. I’ve heard so many stories and theories through the years and never get tired of them.
I am the 18th generation of two colonists on the Mayflower. The ancestors were good at record keeping so we know a lot about their trades and children. My grandmother (born 1907) showed me a portrait of a sea captain named Masters in ( circa 1760 ) and he was so good looking that he could have been a celebrity. She also showed me a portrait from 1832 and that ancestor has my Dads nose and my nose! The gene was quiet for 100 years then it popped up again! I saw a photo of my great grandfather in 1918 and I have his eyes. Amazing! I am thankful to the ancestors for keeping records, cross stitch samplers, and their respect for education and hard work.
I need you to picture a grown woman, at work in her home office (read: kitchen table), flapping her hands with excitement and grinning like a jack-o-lantern. I love it when you give us an historical mystery, and this one is close to any American (former) school child’s heart. We were taught that the settlers were probably died from disease, or were slaughtered by Native Americans likely over a misunderstanding, but the idea they might have gone to live with NA in order to avoid starvation is a new one. It would make sense. I am VERY excited to hear about new follow-up to come in 2021. Until then, we can merely puzzle over “CROATOAN”. That word always struck me as so bleak. Maybe it wasn’t, after all. I’m also now a subscriber to your new project, which looks delightful. (Another reason for the flapping and grinning.) Thanks for your channel - whether I comment or not, I’m always watching, learning and enjoying.☺️
Its not a new concept. It's been around for many years. I read about it when I was still in high school and that was at least 25 years ago
@@ingloriousbetch4302 Me too, and much longer than 25 years ago.
Something I find interesting is the name Roanoke itself. In school I always assumed it was an English name. That maybe it was an old spelling of "Rowan" and "Oak" or maybe something denoting a "red oak".
Turns out it’s a Powhatan word for a specific type of white beads that were used as currency among the Algonquin tribes.
I’m from NC and have always been fascinated with the “Lost Colony” and highly recommend the outdoor drama they put on every year. ❤️
Yeah me too but I’m in western nc
Another county heard from as the Irish say. LOL Piedmont N C here
Thanks Dr. Kat! A big "hello" from Indianapolis! I love it when you discuss American topics in addition to your specialty of English history. The Lost Colony is one of those subjects that educated Americans have an opinion on. Many have never heard of it, which is a shame. We need to know our history so we can learn from it. You make history incredibly interesting, and I appreciate your contributions to learning. You give me another reason to love Fridays!
Since there was apparently no sign of a struggle at Roanoke, I wouldn't be surprised if the settlers saw no choice but to assimilate into the friendly Croatoan community as a means of survival.
agreed
about half of them seem to maybe have done so. but a possible site indicated on one of the old maps (in invisible ink as far as I know) has been found, which should be located farther inland. I am very curios if this new excavation will give us some answers.
If the settlers were in danger or dying they were instructed to carve a Maltese cross onto a post or tree. They did not; only the CRO and CROATOAN.
Governor White's journal is available online, free to read. It is well worth it. Some of the settlers' goods were cached, including Gov. White's chest. He believed Natives had dug it up and said priceless books had been left open to the elements.
The seas were high and the waves treacherous. Something like 7 sailors drowned in the landing party but it was noted those who knew how to swim survived!
So very interesting! It's going to be interesting to see what happens in the future.
Btw if you ever do a video on Elizabeth I and the Tacitus translation and/or her evolving penmanship, I'll be all over that video. It's just crazy to see the changes from her letter to her brother and then in her later years when her aides had to provide a translation because her penmanship was so bad. I might be alone on how fascinating I find it.
Let's be real though, I always jump on any video you put out. You could discuss coprolite or facial hair trends or when left and right shoes came into use or green dye or just about anything and I'd watch it.
Left and right shoes are a fairly new invention.
@@annalisette5897 I know! Isn't that interesting? Can you even imagine?
@@Cypresssina Well, shoes used to be a little like ballet slippers, basic leather shapes that one fit to his or her feet through wear.
I would definitely be interested in a program on Elizabeth I's penmanship, so you are not comepletely alone :)
@@annalisette5897 Like hosiery, stockings and socks.
I love this topic. I never get tired of hearing about the lost colony.
I've been interested in Roanoke, but this is the first I've heard about the carved stones. Loved this, so thank you.
I’ve always believed that the Indigenous people helped them survive with food and shelter. They took the English into their tribe and they eventually became one. I’m very excited to see the results of the new work😉Thank you once again for your videos, oh and the drawings are marvelous😎
I kinda doubt this due to the regular violence between the groups. Though it is a nice thought
This is what happened! The DNA matched . It was done/tested a few years ago.
Paula Applegate really? I had no idea!
@@mellie4174 Anciently in Anglalonde the Angles, Saxons and Geats/Jutes battled the Romanized Celts, then after centuries the Viking Danes, and then the Normans. Then (at once and over time) they miscegenated to make the "English."
Yes. The DNA project is ongoing. Some of the Roanoke settlers still had relatives in England.
I think they would have left to find resources. You don't stay somewhere in hope, when many of you are dying. Whether they were taking in by others or stayed alone is another matter. But I agree, if they were killed on site by someone you would have found at least some remains. I would like to think they moved on to find food etc, and Eleanor left the stone for her father, in what she thought was likely to be her last words to him. "I am safe, but we could wait no longer, I am sorry" xx
Where did the week go? Such a lovely surprise to have this pop into my RUclips, and suddenly remember it's Friday again :)
I love these historical mysteries , I find them so fascinating ! Please do more as it's keeping me sane at the moment . I love the depth you include , I get a sense of nostalgia from studying history . Thank you x
This is fascinating! just getting into American and British history myself as it wasn't taught during my schooling, thank you for having a clear and easy to follow style without all the dramatic reenactments and overly speculative theories presented as fact that other sources have. :D
Edit: just fixing my typos :)
I grew up in South Carolina and my dad always thought a hurricane could have wiped them out or damaged their settlement so bad the survivors had to move on. Love your channel. Thanks for the topic.
I value your content so much that I let the ads play. (I didn't watch them, but I let them play, even the one from Gaia.)
Me too. Just turnbthe sound off
As an American teacher and student of history, I have always wondered what happened to the Roanoke Colony. I had heard of the stones but the one you present is quite compelling to me in it’s internal consistency . Thank you.
Having grown up in NC, the child of a history teacher, I've always been fascinated by the Lost Colony. I've never heard the theory that the colonists tried to return to England. I always favored the idea that one of the Native American tribes rescued them and the colonists assimilated. I believe that there were reports of blue-eyed Native Americans in the years after the Roanoke colony disappeared. I would think that would suggest assimilation. But I do really like the idea of trying to return to England. Is there any evidence to support this theory?
I also wasn't aware of the project happening next year. It will be very interesting to see what is discovered. I've always assumed we'd never know.
I've been fascinated by this story for a long time. My son and daughter-in-law live in North Carolina; my d-i-l's family go right back to the early years of the settlers (and have the family legend that one of their ancestors was Blackbeard, which is another fab story). It's brilliant that more excavations are scheduled to happen and interesting to hear about the stones. Great stuff. :)
be interested to see what happens next year... and DNA would be good to see if they survived by integration
Yes! I'd like to see that too!
I wonder if DNA is even possible. Not sure if any of the local tribes of that era have any living descendants to acquire DNA from. Due to one factor or another, a lot of them were completely wiped out.
Back in the 1970s I used to go camping / visit the Pamunkey reservation near the James River in Hopewell, Va.
The residents are the decendents of the tribe of Powhatan and Pocahontas. This this very small and old reservation. Many of the tribes in the area made treaty before there was a US.
The Pamunkeys still gave yearly tribute to the governor of Virginia as representative of her majesty the queen. The tribute included tobacco, venison and beaver pelts. That's how long they had been on the " res"
Everyone I met were typical Virginia farmers and good Baptists. They were lovely people and proud of their heritage.
I'm sure it would be similar down the coast in North Carolina so it might be possible to do some DNA testing. It would be helpful to find some decendents of the families of the settlers.
Because the East Coast tribes made treaty with the English and not the Americans they are often overlooked. They are not tied to the Federal Bureau of Indian Affairs, in the same way western tribes are. They are usually not recognize at all and so don't get federal money.
Another problem in the south was segregation. The indian kids couldn't go to the white schools. They didn't want to send them to the colored school for a substandard education. For the Pamunkey they had a small school house on site but it only covered a few grades. Many families went north to places like Philly for better opportunities. They just told people they were Italian.
They had careers then retired back on the Res., the kids spent summer there too.
So they're still around.
Some of the Roanoke settlers had relatives in England. There has been an ongoing DNA project. My understanding is that some matches have been confirmed.
Finally, on my side of the Pond. Some things are meant to be mysteries. Life here was harsh for middle class folks unprepared to live a totally communal life in unfamiliar surroundings. I have a friend named after Virginia Dare who lives in NC, a descendent of the family, who eventually did come back to live here.
Hello Dr. Kat!
I love you channel, love the use of illustrations, the way you present the information, simply amazing. I'm so glad I found this channel.
Thank you for all your work!
Cheers from Argentina.
Wow, what a contrast to that crap the History Channel did on Roanoke.
What did THEY do, and when?
Let’s shed a tear for what Discovery, History and A and E once were. And contribute to Public Broadcasting who are still doing it.
couldn't agree more. horrid stuff!
Christopher Brown - they were established to produce and transmit programs based on History as educational and entertaining. But that was when the cable channels were supposed to use their subscriber fees to pay for programming - without commercials.
@@TheSuzberry I meant as rar as the special itself, like, what made it so terrible?
Hello from Texas, When I was in school in the 1970s we were told that the colony of Roanoke Va, was wiped out by a hurricane.
I read, some years ago now, that some historians thought that the Melungian people who live/lived in the NC and GA mountains might be descendants of the missing colonists who intermarried with native Americans. I always mean to read up on this.
Would be interested in any comments on this theory. As with so many mysteries, I fear we will never know the true story.
That is a fascinating theory and the various aspects can be dug up online. To date, so far as I know, DNA of living people has shed no light on the mystery.
Another thing to keep in mind is there is indication, and I believe, there was more European trade with Native Americans and for longer times than what we know of the settlements. Many East Coast natives were said to be very light skinned.
Oooo that's interesting. Perhaps DNA will one day tell us.
I just recently read a historical fiction book that promotes that theory. The Sea-Keepers Daughters by Lisa Wingate.
The Melungian people have been proven to be people of European and African ancestry. However, to gain acceptance by the white community they lived with, the story was told that they were of Native American and European ancestry.
Which is similar to black Americans today...many will tell you they have Native American ancestry (to explain certain features that crop up in the family) but the DNA is actually showing that the European DNA is actually the contributing factor.
Dr. Kat, I love your channel... I’m always learning from you. Thank you so very much. :)
Dr Kay, I love your reading of history, and always enjoy seeing your stuffed Dino behind you. Looks like he is napping in this one. Thanks for your good work. Dr Susan
I can't wait for the future archeological excavation and look forward to hear you expound upon it. Great as usual, Dr. Kat.
This is absolutely fascinating... I'm excited to see what is discovered in next year's excavations! (Your make-up is gorgeous, by the way!)
Agreed on all points!(makeup included🤩)
I heard about this colony when I was in elementary school and it has always intrigued me. Thank you for your video.
WOW!!! As an amateur history nerd with a psych degree, I'm SO up for Monarchs Anonymous! As it's done by proper historians, I'll know they're basing their ideas on reliable contemporary sources, so I'll be able to start theorising myself from facts not hearsay.
...Although, if one more person says Henry VIII "must've been mentally ill" to do all the hideous stuff he did... I'll get annoying & point out that mental illness doesn't mean you're violent, & violence doesn't mean you're mentally ill. A very harmful stereotype, one of many that stigmatise mental illness.
Extremely exciting news! I can't wait. BTW, I have been learning a lot about European history on your channel and you've inspired me to dig around and learn a whole lot more. We're not taught any of these things in American history classes. Keep up your awesome videos!❤
Coffee Holic my daughter is a junior in high school here in the states and she’s learning about European history in school . I guess some places do and some don’t.
@@dawnfalvey6766 She's attending one of the few programs that haven't been completely gutted by budget cuts then. Lucky her!
Fascinating. Thanks so much for sharing. I am excited to see what the results of next years research will yield!
Dear lady. Love your videos keep them coming
I'm always happy to see a post from you, your videos are so organized and fact based (or theory in this case) I've read some accounts that John White wasn't an efficient leader, and I always lean to the theory that the people can out of supplies and left the settlement and left on a passing ship or joined with the Native Americans.
Wonderful video as always! Best description I’ve ever heard of the events at Roanoke, and I’m from South Carolina.
Astonishing Legends have done a podcast on this! Very interesting thank you!
Always interested in this. Just joined today and I've been enjoying the theories and listening to you speak. I look forward to learning more from you.
I love your intro song! It's so cheery and upbeat. Plus I love history during this time period.
i'm really feeling the story told by the first rock. it just resonants truth,, loved this piece of history!
Dr. Kat, you always fascinate me. Thank you!
Interesting . Can't wait to hear and see more about the most Colony
We just moved to North Carolina and I can't wait to check out Roanoke settlement with my kids once the pandemic is over. Such a fascinating piece of history! Thank you for sharing!
I’ve always thought the answer to what happed to the lost colony would be “yes” to all of the above. Some were probably killed ( likely men) by the locals. Some ( likely women and children) were taken into local indigenous tribes. Some did die of hunger and illness, that killed off a gracious many Londoners of the time too.
And some were abducted by aliens 👽
@@tiffanielafleur6597 ... to populate new spheres and orbs, full fill this plenteous universe ... .
I just subscribed to Monarchs Anonymous. Hoping it’s as entertaining and informative as Reading the Past.
God I love this channel... I am a little worried, bc I"m watching this at 7pm.... and I normally listen to you at night... you tell me a story and I drift off to sleep. I have to stay up and make dinner! You are a wonderful storyteller.
Governor White's journal is available to read free online. It is well worth the read.
Apparently the colonists cached some of their goods. Gov. White's chest with books and other items had been buried but subsequently looted, probably by Natives. He wrote that priceless books had been exposed to the weather.
They had great difficulty landing in the high surf. Something like 7 sailors drowned in the attempt but the ones who knew how to swim survived. Amazing, that!
The first "Dare Stone" is very interesting. The rest have quite a checkered past and they read like chapters from a modern romance book.
It was found in the last few years that White had pasted over a tiny spot on a map showing the mainland. It is thought by some that his intention, therefore the intent of the colonists, was to move inland and build a fort there away from the Spanish who regularly plied the coast.
It is possible some of the tragedies were brought about because the ship(s) White was on decided to try a little piracy and so strayed off course for a little while.
I watch this case closely. I believe it is the inland spot that is being excavated. I had hoped to volunteer for some of this archaeological work but the world is in a terrible mess and the chronic migraine I have has gotten worse. So far as I know DNA has yielded basically nothing of use.
I love your welcome at the beginning. It feels like you've invited us over for tea and lively discussion. I wish you would do an occasional episode where you review book finds. I always love reading new books! Maybe sometimes you could do a live episode for tea and discussion.
Wow! I had never heard of the stones. I graduated with my bachelors and masters from Brenau!! So cool to hear you talk about them.
I love your channel. You make me so happy to learn about history!!
I remember being fascinated by this story as a kid after learning about it in school, that sent me on a journey to read every paranormal book I could get my hands on
Hi Dr Kat, love your work:)💜
I would love to see more videos on colonial topics like this!
Omg, this is unbelievable. I'm making my Degree Dissertation about this! Can't wait to hear what you think about the Lost Colony!
Laura Glez. Sanabria Great topic! There’s a ton of research so you should have some great resource material! May I ask what new angle you’re taking?
Lovely!! Good luck to you on your resources and research for your dissertation!! What a nice find for you with Dr Kat❤
@@elizabethbetts3834 Thank you! Of course you may, I'm very glad to answer. I feel like I've been reading for ages now, though. By now, I'm making a present situation of the whole topic, but I'm tilted towards the fact that they all were assimilated by the friendly natives (chowanoke) of the area, but later were slaughtered by another defensive and brutal native tribe (according to James Horn, who proposed this first). Thanks to Dr. Kat, I now know where to find the Dare Stones and take a further look at them in spite of their veracity. I think this is an interesting place to start with!
P.S. btw, I'm planning on making this the topic of a Master's Degree and maybe even a PhD, who knows!.
@@nancybeveridgetaylor3256 omg, thank you!! you are so kind :) Dr Kat is just amazing, I wasn't expecting this video at all!!
Love your thoughts on the lost colony. I'm headed to this area of North Carolina tomorrow.
Aliens! I burst out laughing. PAHAHAHA! Good one, Dr. Kat. When I was a child in the 1950's my elementary school had a big series of 30+ biographies on famous people written on an age 7-12 level with silhouette illustrations. I could never get enough of them and read about everyone from Paul Revere to Kit Carson. I think this series stoked my interest in historically important people and in history, both American, British and Russian. After reading Nicholas and Alexandra by Robert Massie while in college I was forever hooked on Russian imperial history, clothing, jewels, Russian art and architecture and also Russian writers like Tolstoy, Bunin, Turgenev, etc. Several years ago after decades of poor health that had stabilized, I and my husband took a trip to St. Petersburg. Oh my goodness, we spent 8 wonderful days in August -- the weather was gorgeous, got to see the Amber Room at Catherine Palace, and took the Metro all over the historic district. It was a dream trip. I would love to go back and see the recently opened Faberge Museum, Peterhof, Gatchina, and the Alexander Palace most of all. You never know when a child will get hooked on history. My parents took us to many of the US Civil War battlefields b/c when we were kids the centennials of these battles were happening so everyone went a bit Civil War crazy. It's great to show things like this to kids, get library books like the Dorling-Kindersley Eyewitness series of books for them, take them to Monticello, Mt. Vernon, etc. It's also a great idea that at the end of each school year you purchase a snazzy book about one of their interests such as King Tut, or Stonehenge, or the Roman era....whatever they are interested in. By the time they graduate they have a library of books based on their interests.
I have been fascinated by this subject since I learned about it as a child (maybe 8-years old?), and hope I live long enough to find out the the real facts. Thank you for continuing to show this subject for us!
Another gem. Thanks!
Am I the only one who does a little dance to the theme song? 😂 looove these videos!
Thanks for a clear and concise presentation of this story.
I thoroughly enjoyed this program! I visit the North Carolina coast every year (since 1990) and I have had the pleasure of seeing "The Lost Colony" theater production in Manteo many times. The play is wonderful but it offers no answers to what may have happened- only hints (and vague!) Still is a profound mystery !
Excellent video. Thank you.
There's a really interesting book I read a few years ago, "Roanoke:Solving the Mystery of the Lost Colony" by Lee Miller. The author is an anthropologist and an Indigenous woman, and she dug into the history of all the tribes who were living in the area at the time & how they interacted with each other & with the colonists, in order to come up with a theory on what happened.
In "Roanoke," the author, Lee Miller, suggests that the English government or powerful influences in it meant to leave the colonists without support and that John White knew this-- it's an interesting read!
Why would they do that?
My family hails from this area since the 1670's, Norfolk, Virginia. And I have frequented and lived in North Carolina's Outer Banks. Thanks for such a detail-rich explanation of this fascinating story....;^ )
I wonder how things would have turned out if Simon had dropped them off where it was originally planned.
Ditto, had the 1620 Mayflower landed where originally aimed, in Virginia.
Great place to visit. Lost Colony reenactment and ship are interesting to visit in North Carolina. 👍
Loved this episode. But ot also showed me just how much I watched Supernatural cause thats what I kept thinking about
National Geographic released an article today where an archaeologist thinks he’s found a fort 50 miles from Roanoke where he’s found pottery that he claims is from Roanoke survivors. Others are not convinced
I lived in NC for 7 yrs and went to college at East Carolina University. The mystery of what happened to the settlers is very fascinating.
I was just reading about this yesterday, get out of my head Dr Kat 😂
I would be very interested in more video(s) on this topic. I had no idea that more work on the lost colony was scheduled for this year. More info please.
I love learning about American history from the other side of the pond!
I live in eastern NC and i always thought that White's account might not be 100%. It seems to me that there was a lot riding on this colony. You don't want to tell people hey when I returned everyone had perished. A nicer way to say it would be I got there there were no remains so everyone must have assimilated. I found this note that was kind of cryptic but that must be where they headed to. Just because something is written does not make it completely true. Who really knows what was found. Either way it's fascinating! There are so many possibilities.
I grew up in North Carolina and these are my thoughts. I agree that it was more likely assimilation and also know about the blue-eyed Native Americans. While I find this the most plausible reason for the blue-eyed Native Americans in the area, so much is changing now in regards to what we know about the 'Native' populations in North, Central and South America long before the 'discovery' that there is the possibility that some tribes naturally had blue-eyed members. If they did assimilate, the Chowanoke seem more likely the group they would have assimilated with due to the issues caused by the second settlement group with the Secotan, but then not even all of those tribes were hostile (with good reason) towards the second group. As someone else has stated, I have also heard about the planned DNA research.
Disease and starvation seem to always be the first theories explored. Disease is always a possibility, but then again the colonists seemed to bring more illness and disease with them that caused a far greater impact on the Native Americans than has ever been reported the other way around. Starvation is a theory, but when you look at Jamestown and the possibility of assistance from some of the more friendly tribes of the Native Americans there could have been ways of avoiding this.
Returning to England seems more just like a theory than any attempt as I have not come across anything or can really think of any way they would have done this unless there was another ship that appeared. It is not impossible that they could have built a boat large enough for them and sea worthy enough to carry them that far, but it seems a bit far fetched based on the numbers in the population.
I had heard about the now 2021 project and look forward to seeing the results. And there are several areas being explored or which have already started being explored in the last decade including Hatteras Island, areas near the Albemarle Sound near Mettaquem and further inland up the Chowan River. There are other sites scattered around some linked with stones that were mentioned and others not. There are so many possibilities for them heading north, south, west or out onto the Outer Banks..
I do have to say that the jury is not out on the stones. More than one stone is still being studied and with good reason. If people look deeper into what happened early on about the stones, they will see why some people try to discredit them all without proper study, but this does not mean that some of the stones were not real.
It seems quite possible that the group could have even split up and gone different ways as this is human nature.
To me having grown up spending so much time on the coast of North Carolina, White saying the weather was too bad is a cop out. Going from Roanoke to Hatteras is not that difficult or that long of a journey. Even if he had to wait due to bad weather, it would not have been that long and it is not like the Outer Banks are difficult to explore. Yes, I know the topography would have changed in some ways, but if he could sail across the Atlantic that many times surely he could have spent more time looking and sailing in the vicinity of the North Carolina coast. You have to take what he has presented with a grain of salt as it is tied in with his success and with profit.
I don't know what to think about the inscribed stones, to be honest. I know I'd like to think they're legit, but that's all I can say. It is a fascinating mystery. Thanks for covering it.
Currently reading the book Willoughbyland which is very similar to this story. Thank you for this video Dr.Kat.
LOVING Monarch's Therapy!
I subscribed to Monarchs Anonymous. It looks to be a hoot!
Go to see the outdoor drama The Lost Colony is a fond memory from my childhood. Living close too the Outer Banks it's a place I have visited my entire like. It is so fascinating to see this 400-year-old mystery getting attention. I was also taught in school that the colonists were massacred or died from disease or starvation.
I have always been fascinated by Roanoke. Visited in February. I think they joined the Croatoan people, either by choice or battle. Can’t wait for the new excavations.
Hello! I have seen the stone pictured in person (in the mid 90s when my mother attended Brenau University for her Masters) and have always been intrigued by it and the others that exist. I’ve also vacationed in Roanoke and the islands of the Outer Banks of North Carolina (where Cape Hatteras is located). The Lost Colony is an important theme of tourism there, with many place names that commemorate Virginia Dare. Where might I be able to read more about the stones? The Brenau web site seems to have little, and the stones, I believe, are no longer on display. Also, I find it quite odd that any of the stones would be housed by a University located in the northern Georgia foothills of the Appalachians.
Do you have a video about how Henry IV of France's head was found in an attic?
Also could you do a video about St Kenelm in Romsey please?
Hi Dr Kat! Just found your channel and subscribed 🇬🇧
I believe that the colony was weakened by lack of food, and disease.They asked the natives for help and thus adopted.Most likely scattered amongst the band's of natives.
Howdy from Texas!! I'm so excited about the Virginia series - have to go watch the others. I'm supposedly descended from some chappy in Jamestown from early 1600's. Can't remember his name right now - oh, well, anyway. I love your videos! Love the alien abduction!! What a hoot!! Can't wait for your next video - y'all take care now!!
Howdy back from Texas too! So dang hot here! We need rain! Don’t you love Dr Kat’s channel? Be sure and watch her new channel, a rather cheeky one with Dr Kat, “the Psychologist” interviewing or trying to, the English Monarchs! “The Monarchs Anonymous Channel”.....Hilarious!
Take care my fellow Texan!
I am fascinated by DNA. :) Please keep us posted.
I live in North Carolina and have always heard that the colonists joined up with some indigenous people and that they became part of the Lumbee tribe here in the Sandhills of eastern NC.
"Must include the possibility of alien abduction"... LOL
Made me smile. And they kept taking people over time, including Amelia Earhart.
We were trying to figure this out during school, I wish this video was our 7 months ago! It’s very good,the other videos we watched explained NOTHING about it 🤦♀️
I look forward to seeing what new excavations and research dig up. I have been interested in the Lost Colony since visiting the area 45 years ago. I find the stone engravings and their messages problematic. If any survivors were taken by the natives, they might have been adopted into their captors' communities. Tracing DNA would be very difficult because of the 400 years of intermixing that has occurred. I am having trouble with DNA back to Jamestown in 1607 because there just weren't that many people in the colonies and they tended to marry cousins a lot whether they knew it or not. Turns out my son's dad and I are 7th cousins. One multiple great aunt married three times to distant cousins. Come to think of it, looking at the US today, maybe that explains a lot.
Heh heh
Lmao!
What equipment do you use to record your videos? I love the quality! Thank you so much for sharing your expertise!
Thought this was fascinating. I tried to locate the video you mentioned at the start from a year ago, but could not. I would appreciate a cite. Thank you.
I'm new here Doctor Cat. I did enjoy this! Thanks.
Thanks Dr Kat. Greetings from lockdown Melbourne. Great videos as always. Makes my Saturday morning cross trainer exercises go more quickly. I just think that the colonists wouldn’t have got into such a pickle if they had hired that other well known nautical cove, Captain Redbeard Rum as their skipper as opposed to that Simon dude.
What happened should be obvious to everyone. They ran out of supplies, and did what they needed to survive, aka went and lived with the Native's of the area. Sometimes the answer is the most obvious and boring one.
After all the violence why would the indigenous people take them in??
Maybe as slaves?
@@mellie4174 Various reasons. It is possible that the English threw themselves at the Native's mercy. People tend to forget that when John White went back 3 years later, there were no signs that they died. It isn't always about what is there, but what isn't there. If they were killed, or died due to disease, there would have been some evidence to that.
@@mellie4174 There were various tribes in the area. Indigenous peoples are not a monolith. The colonizers had beef with two tribes, due to their own sense of superiority. But starvation and bitter American winters will humble anyone. Native Americans don't usually harbor continued resentments either. After a war or skirmish many tribes will negotiate peace that was intended to last. This was an alien concept among the Europeans, btw as evidenced by the .scores of broken peace treaties agreed to by the American government. However in that time and place, the survivors of war, sickness and famine would most likely be assimilated by friendly neighboring tribal groups.
Being from North Carolina, I was sad to hear that the dig on the Cape Fear River was delayed. It was purported to be the best chance for new information ever.
I have heard that the Dare Stones, at least the first two, were done by two professors at the college to punk one of their colleagues who became so excited that they didn’t have the heart to tell him. He then published a treatise on the stones and offered money for additional found stones. Thus the stones were found seemingly everywhere and the whole thing took on a whole life of its own. Even after the two tricksters confessed, he was so imbedded in his theory that he did not believe them. It was quite the kerfuffle! I believe all of the stones, save the first two, have been definitively debunked.
I look forward to seeing you as a therapist!
Concerning the Dare Stone, I'm interested in what the 'savage' had to say. Message of a ship, then suddenly became 'frightened of revenge'. Frightened from his own tribe for consorting with the colonists. or frightened of someone on the ship? The 'savages said 'spirits were angry'. How did Eleanor know this? What tribes in the area believed in 'spirits' (we don't all believe the same things) and what put the idea of ' fear of revenge' in their head? The shaman of the tribe? Someone on this 'ship' that may or may not have been Spanish?
I think some died of disease, some were killed by the locals, and perhaps some went to live with them but they may or may not have left any descendants, although there were reports from later explorers claiming to have seen 'gray eyed' Indians who said they were descended from colonists.
The Melungeons had their DNA tested several years ago and as far I know, there was no connection found with the Lost Colony.
These are excellent questions - if the stone is authentic, how did Eleanor know the thoughts of the indigenous person she claims to have spoke to? Did they share a language? If so, which one?