Most aggressive michelin compound for road cars but yes the tyres are not overly large. That being said it is only a second quicker than a 720s with trofeo Tyre, would have expected a bigger gap considering that car came out almost 6 years ago.
@@Earl_VTEC Wir hatten mal den SF90 und der war nach 3 Tagen komplett tot! Batterie unterdimensioniert und selbst die Türen gingen nicht mehr auf! Es musste ein Mechaniker mit richtigem Schlüssel für's Schlüsselloch kommen...🙄
Seems to understeer a lot on corners (245 tyre for you) but just insane power really helps on this circuit which is where it’s making the time up compared to the GTRS and Black Series
What are you talking about? All I see is oversteering in corner entry and oversteer at corner exit when power is applied. Bit of safety understeer in mid corner which can be easily neutralized with power as shown in the video. The laptime speaks for itself, and this isn't even the track special.
Taking all curbs "volley". Messer zwischen den Zähnen. I see the point of running a fastest-possible lap, but it is a bit ridiciulous for a magazine that is dedicated for people running their cars as sporty dailydrivers or on trackdays, to run a car in such a brutal ultra-time-attack mode.
It was tested at 2C track temperatures, which would cost several seconds on Cup 2Rs (or any other good tire). They said another test would be forthcoming at warmer temps, but I’ve yet to see it.
@@heinedenmark Nope. The Z06 has been track tested by several magazines with professional drivers, and its blowing the doors off everything including Porsche.
@@ss-mw9dj your ignorance speaks volumes. Sport auto did note in the magazine, that the the lap time for the Z06 was compromised because of the low track temperatures, and any idiot who’s ever been on a track knows that running R compound tires in cold weather cost costs you time. 2° C is well below the recommended track operating temperature for a cup 2R tire, look it up on Michelin’s site. Also, if you watch the video at the bottom, where the Porsche GT3 RS and the Z06 compete, you will see that both cars turned slow lap times, and the testers attributed this to the cold (near freezing) track temperatures affecting the tires’ traction . In fact, the 992 GT3 RS, which has far superior aero and DRS to the 991.2 GT3 RS, turned a slower time with the same driver on the same track than the 991.2 GT3 RS, which would never happen at same temperature. The C8 Z06 just won Le Mans GTE class this year, beating out both Porsche and Ferrari. Porsches turn faster lap times than Ferrari as measured Euro mags, and Corvette is faster than the Porsche GT3. ******** Base C8 vs Porsche ******** Nurburgring Lap Times: Base Corvette C8: 7:29.9 Porsche Carrera S: 7:30.41 Porsche GT4: 7:32.0 EVO Magazine’s C8 hot lap at Anglissy, Steve Sutcliff’s hot lap. ruclips.net/video/Mol8AG6VDUA/видео.html Times: Porsche Turbo 991.2 : 1:15.2 Corvette C8: 1:15.6 Porsche 992 Carrera S: 1:16.0 Road & Track, Grattan: Base Corvette C8: 1:26.4 Porsche GT4: 1:26.5 Note that GT4s are ~425 lbs (193kg) lighter than C8s *and* have *much* grippier tires, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2rs specifically. ******** Z06 vs Porsche GT3 and others ******** Car & Driver Lightning Lap 2023: Corvette Z06: 2:38.6 Porsche GT4RS: 2:40.5 Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 2:43.9 From past few Lightning Laps, same track: 2022 Porsche GT3: 2:40.6 2019 Porsche GT3RS: 2:41.6 2021 Porsche Turbo S: 2:42.5 The six fastest cars from all of Car & Driver’s Lightning Lap comparisons: 2019 McLaren Senna: 2:34.9 2021 Mercedes AMG-GT Black Series: 2:37.0 2018 Porsche GT2RS Weissach: 2:37.8 2021 McLaren 765LT: 2:38.4 2023 Corvette Z06: 2:38.6 2019 Corvette ZR1: 2:39.5 Road & Track Performance Car of the Year, 2023: Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 1:23.1 Porsche GT4RS: 1:22.7 Lamborghini Huracan STO (2022): 1:21.9 Corvette Z06: 1:20.6 Savagegeese same day/same driver/same track comparison of Z06 w/Z07 vs GT3. Corvette and GT3 manufacturer teams on hand making sure both vehicles’ setups were optimal: ruclips.net/video/zUqDKZEf_FA/видео.html Times: Z06: 1:27.240 GT3: 1:27.329 Tight, short track. Pro driver said GT3 would definitely lose advantage on longer tracks and Z06’s lead would grow on them. Autobild Sportscars Supertest Lausitzring lap times: AMG GT Black Series: 1’25”23 Porsche 911 GT2 RS (991): 1’25”91 Corvette Corvette Z06/Z07: 1’27”41 Lamborghini Huracan STO: 1’27”94 Lamborghini Aventador SVJ: 1’28”05 Porsche 911 Turbo S (992): 1’29”95 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991): 1’30”60 Motorsport Magazine (chart at end of vid shown w/times): ruclips.net/video/Q5aAHU4teiU/видео.html McLaren Senna 1'14"93 (TrofeoR) C8 Z06 (Z07) 1'15"23 (Cup 2R) 991.2 GT2 RS 1'15"91 (Cup 2R) 992 GT3 RS 1'15"96 (Cup 2R) Ferrari 488 Pista 1'16"06 (Cup 2R) Montecello Motor Club North Course Fastest laps: AMG GT Black Series: 1’19”42 C8 Z06 (Z07): 1’20”55 911 GT3 (992): 1’21”69 Huracan STO: 1’21”9 718 Cayman GT4 RS: 1’22”70 Huracan Tecnica: 1’23”10 M4 CSL: 1’24”20 From fastest laps site: Val de Vienne lap times Rank Vehicle Time 1 Ferrari 296 GTS 1’37”70 2 C8 Z06 (Z07) 1’39”07 3 992 GT3 RS 1’41”60 4 992 GT3 1’42”80 5 M4 CSL 1’43”28 6 GT4 RS 1’44”65 C8 Z06 sets production car record at Canada's Canadian Tire Motorsport Park: ruclips.net/video/cBZG1ddZFf8/видео.html Hagerty test of Z06 vs 992 M3 CSL, Jason Carissa with Randy Pobst driving. Willow Springs, high speed track with 992 GT3 RS’s active aero winning the day here, near freezing track temps. ruclips.net/video/mCQlLa36-0c/видео.html Times: ZO6: 1:24.9 GT3 RS: 1:24.3
@@enfantterrible4868 i made the Avanzato corsa Piloti by ferrari. But i drove with the 296 in Mugello with the Dealer Car Niki Hasler and in Monza i was invited from Ferrari to test de 296. At the Moment, the best car that you can order from Ferrari.
der Wagen wirkt sehr nervös und schwammig. Heftiges Untersteuern in den Kurveneingängen. Die Leistung bringt hier noch eine passable Zeit, ansonsten ein reines Boulevard und Autobahnfahrzeug.
@@zaphod2 ja mit 300 PS…..WOW und dann so schnell zu sein wie ein GT3 RS ist schon ein Armutszeugnis! Zeigt was für eine überteuerter Müll Ferrari ist.
What an amazing and beautiful machine! Love the 296 GTB so much
Ferrari achieving excellent lap times with no big wings nor absurdly large tyres
But with enormous amount of power that helps a lot because the car understeer in the majority of the corners
@@CLSTRN911 Nevertheless it still isn't their track oriented car.
Pretty tasty tyres though!
@@CLSTRN911 it's not the track version heck even misha said for a "track setup" sf90, the assetto fiorano is relatively soft
Most aggressive michelin compound for road cars but yes the tyres are not overly large.
That being said it is only a second quicker than a 720s with trofeo Tyre, would have expected a bigger gap considering that car came out almost 6 years ago.
those shifts are ferocious
Then imagine.. what the track focused version will be capable of 🙃
RIP Tracklimits 🙂
+5sec
Wow, das bremst ordentlich - TOP
Genau das dachte ich auch!
Really fast
Great time!
296 Traumwagen! Gruß aus dem Honda Lager #TypeR
Wenn der diesen Elektromist nicht hätte, würde ich ihn noch besser finden...
@@einautofan6685 Der Elektromist macht ihn halt so unfassbar schnell wie den #HondaNSX seiner Zeit.
@@Earl_VTEC Wir hatten mal den SF90 und der war nach 3 Tagen komplett tot! Batterie unterdimensioniert und selbst die Türen gingen nicht mehr auf! Es musste ein Mechaniker mit richtigem Schlüssel für's Schlüsselloch kommen...🙄
@@Earl_VTECNicht wirklich. Macht ihn nur schwerer.
Die Frage ist, wie viele Runden kann er gleichzeitig fahren? Ich meine das Hybridsystem, das herunterlädt ...
Kommt darauf an, wie oft du dich Klonen lässt...😉🤣
Seems to understeer a lot on corners (245 tyre for you) but just insane power really helps on this circuit which is where it’s making the time up compared to the GTRS and Black Series
Depends on traction in the manettino, and also I believe due to the batteries (understeer)
What are you talking about?
All I see is oversteering in corner entry and oversteer at corner exit when power is applied. Bit of safety understeer in mid corner which can be easily neutralized with power as shown in the video.
The laptime speaks for itself, and this isn't even the track special.
There is no understeer
Tire squeezing is not understeer
Well put a giant GT wing on this and see what it does
5 seconds penalty, track limits lol
5 second penalty for Ocon
Taking all curbs "volley". Messer zwischen den Zähnen. I see the point of running a fastest-possible lap, but it is a bit ridiciulous for a magazine that is dedicated for people running their cars as sporty dailydrivers or on trackdays, to run a car in such a brutal ultra-time-attack mode.
@SportautoDe How many similar fast laps you can do in these conditions until battery runs out? Or something else overheat sooner?
very good question and same interrogation about the SF90.
I don't like this Hybrid shit! I prefer a Sportscar with petrol engine only and less weight!😏
This is normal 296 or have assetto fiorano package? 🤨
with Assetto Fiorano
Die Curbgeräusche sind furchtbar. Ist noch alles dran oder hat er diverse Teile schon entsorgt?
j'ai eu la poutre wow
like eat the pianos
manettino knob position on what traction setting?
As recommended by Ferrari, the lap was driven in the "CT off" driving program.
Was für eine brachiale Bremse
A Z06 is slower than a STO and 4seconds slower than a 296? I dont think so.
😅
It was tested at 2C track temperatures, which would cost several seconds on Cup 2Rs (or any other good tire). They said another test would be forthcoming at warmer temps, but I’ve yet to see it.
@@heinedenmark Nope. The Z06 has been track tested by several magazines with professional drivers, and its blowing the doors off everything including Porsche.
@@ss-mw9dj your ignorance speaks volumes. Sport auto did note in the magazine, that the the lap time for the Z06 was compromised because of the low track temperatures, and any idiot who’s ever been on a track knows that running R compound tires in cold weather cost costs you time. 2° C is well below the recommended track operating temperature for a cup 2R tire, look it up on Michelin’s site. Also, if you watch the video at the bottom, where the Porsche GT3 RS and the Z06 compete, you will see that both cars turned slow lap times, and the testers attributed this to the cold (near freezing) track temperatures affecting the tires’ traction . In fact, the 992 GT3 RS, which has far superior aero and DRS to the 991.2 GT3 RS, turned a slower time with the same driver on the same track than the 991.2 GT3 RS, which would never happen at same temperature.
The C8 Z06 just won Le Mans GTE class this year, beating out both Porsche and Ferrari. Porsches turn faster lap times than Ferrari as measured Euro mags, and Corvette is faster than the Porsche GT3.
******** Base C8 vs Porsche ********
Nurburgring Lap Times:
Base Corvette C8: 7:29.9
Porsche Carrera S: 7:30.41
Porsche GT4: 7:32.0
EVO Magazine’s C8 hot lap at Anglissy, Steve Sutcliff’s hot lap.
ruclips.net/video/Mol8AG6VDUA/видео.html
Times:
Porsche Turbo 991.2 : 1:15.2
Corvette C8: 1:15.6
Porsche 992 Carrera S: 1:16.0
Road & Track, Grattan:
Base Corvette C8: 1:26.4
Porsche GT4: 1:26.5
Note that GT4s are ~425 lbs (193kg) lighter than C8s *and* have *much* grippier tires, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2rs specifically.
******** Z06 vs Porsche GT3 and others ********
Car & Driver Lightning Lap 2023:
Corvette Z06: 2:38.6
Porsche GT4RS: 2:40.5
Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 2:43.9
From past few Lightning Laps, same track:
2022 Porsche GT3: 2:40.6
2019 Porsche GT3RS: 2:41.6
2021 Porsche Turbo S: 2:42.5
The six fastest cars from all of Car & Driver’s Lightning Lap comparisons:
2019 McLaren Senna: 2:34.9
2021 Mercedes AMG-GT Black Series: 2:37.0
2018 Porsche GT2RS Weissach: 2:37.8
2021 McLaren 765LT: 2:38.4
2023 Corvette Z06: 2:38.6
2019 Corvette ZR1: 2:39.5
Road & Track Performance Car of the Year, 2023:
Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 1:23.1
Porsche GT4RS: 1:22.7
Lamborghini Huracan STO (2022): 1:21.9
Corvette Z06: 1:20.6
Savagegeese same day/same driver/same track comparison of Z06 w/Z07 vs GT3. Corvette and GT3 manufacturer teams on hand making sure both vehicles’ setups were optimal:
ruclips.net/video/zUqDKZEf_FA/видео.html
Times:
Z06: 1:27.240
GT3: 1:27.329
Tight, short track. Pro driver said GT3 would definitely lose advantage on longer tracks and Z06’s lead would grow on them.
Autobild Sportscars Supertest
Lausitzring lap times:
AMG GT Black Series: 1’25”23
Porsche 911 GT2 RS (991): 1’25”91
Corvette Corvette Z06/Z07: 1’27”41
Lamborghini Huracan STO: 1’27”94
Lamborghini Aventador SVJ: 1’28”05
Porsche 911 Turbo S (992): 1’29”95
Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991): 1’30”60
Motorsport Magazine (chart at end of vid shown w/times):
ruclips.net/video/Q5aAHU4teiU/видео.html
McLaren Senna 1'14"93 (TrofeoR)
C8 Z06 (Z07) 1'15"23 (Cup 2R)
991.2 GT2 RS 1'15"91 (Cup 2R)
992 GT3 RS 1'15"96 (Cup 2R)
Ferrari 488 Pista 1'16"06 (Cup 2R)
Montecello Motor Club North Course Fastest laps:
AMG GT Black Series: 1’19”42
C8 Z06 (Z07): 1’20”55
911 GT3 (992): 1’21”69
Huracan STO: 1’21”9
718 Cayman GT4 RS: 1’22”70
Huracan Tecnica: 1’23”10
M4 CSL: 1’24”20
From fastest laps site:
Val de Vienne lap times
Rank Vehicle Time
1 Ferrari 296 GTS 1’37”70
2 C8 Z06 (Z07) 1’39”07
3 992 GT3 RS 1’41”60
4 992 GT3 1’42”80
5 M4 CSL 1’43”28
6 GT4 RS 1’44”65
C8 Z06 sets production car record
at Canada's Canadian Tire Motorsport Park:
ruclips.net/video/cBZG1ddZFf8/видео.html
Hagerty test of Z06 vs 992 M3 CSL, Jason Carissa with Randy Pobst driving. Willow Springs, high speed track with 992 GT3 RS’s active aero winning the day here, near freezing track temps.
ruclips.net/video/mCQlLa36-0c/видео.html
Times:
ZO6: 1:24.9
GT3 RS: 1:24.3
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921thats....a nice lie lmfao.
Wahrscheinlich kein Werksfahrer, da immer wieder Zeit liegen gelassen wurde
😂
Was war deine schnellste Runde auf deiner PlayStation?
@@MrMegacurie sony werksfahrer😄
Der Fahrer ist Journalist bei SportAuto und fährt immer deren „Supertest“ in Hockenheim und auf der Nordschleife.
Nice time, but horrible driving !!
Was keiner schreibt....nach 4 Runden ist alles überhitzt beim 296...aber auf eine schnelle Runde lässt sich das sehen!!
Was genau ist überhitzt? Die Bremsen? Oder der Elektromist?
No track Limits for CG😂😂😂😂
das stimmt nicht! Bin in Mugello schon 10 Runden gefahren bei 30 grad, da hat gar nichts überhitzt
@@billi993bei Assetto Corsa?
@@enfantterrible4868 i made the Avanzato corsa Piloti by ferrari. But i drove with the 296 in Mugello with the Dealer Car Niki Hasler and in Monza i was invited from Ferrari to test de 296. At the Moment, the best car that you can order from Ferrari.
Man hat aber schon gemerkt dass die Reifen hinüber waren
Zur Info: Der Reifensatz war neu für die Runde
Miserable track..must be a go-cart special....
this would have been an absoulute perfection with a v8
It doesn't fit..
@@heinedenmark I'll tie it on the roof
You want a V8? Get an SF-90.
@@migueljardim8177 the chassis behave different. I like this one better
The V6 is better - > GT3. Even in the LeMans 499
der Wagen wirkt sehr nervös und schwammig. Heftiges Untersteuern in den Kurveneingängen. Die Leistung bringt hier noch eine passable Zeit, ansonsten ein reines Boulevard und Autobahnfahrzeug.
A track focused version will come later on 🤷♂️
So schnell wie ein 992 GT3 RS aber ein " reines Boulevard und Autobahnfahrzeug"... alles klar!
@@zaphod2 ja mit 300 PS…..WOW und dann so schnell zu sein wie ein GT3 RS ist schon ein Armutszeugnis! Zeigt was für eine überteuerter Müll Ferrari ist.