I would rather have the birds and animals and the puppets that chased them. The unpredictable encounters that hungry puppets created was just a small step in the direction of what this game badly needs. When I first started playing Scum a couple/few years ago, there was a Deer or Buck bedded down making this noise that sent chills down the back of my neck. I crept closer until I seemed to be very close, but I didn't see anything. When the Deer or Buck got up and bolted, it gave me quite a startle. I didn't see anything wrong with that natural gameplay and I don't think even 100 animals created lag problems on low-population servers. Moreover, hunting stands are going to be useless for anything but predators. I set Birds quite high on my server and it made the world feel much more alive.
Ray you don't need to sneak while looking for clues until the animal spawns becuase there is a timer and the animal can get away and awareness do help but if you just follow the audio clues you'll fine the clue easier
Exactly! Shows even more how fucking stupid this is in regards to hunting. They might as well have just deleted all animals from the game. This new system is beyond ignorance. In all regards!
Great video and Tutorial for some that may like this new feature. I Hate it, done it and find it easy but takes away all immersion. Is this for server performance and they are trying to sell it to us as a "mini game" to look for "clues", its a step backwards in development.
Thank you! I didn't know we had to examine the clues. I figured using the visual and audio clues where enough. Now I understand why I was looking for the same animal for about 20 minutes and not getting anywhere.
I kind of like this sort of hunting system for higher value targets or big game. It's more rewarding to track and hunt an animal that's going to provide you with a good supply of meat. But there should also be some small game that only provide a fraction of the resources that are just running around readily available to be hunted without the whole tracking mini game.
Yea its called looting, selling to trader, then buying meat. If hunting was that stupid in real life humans would have died out a long time ago. I enjoy hunting games really they should have just made it where after you hit the animal it takes off running and you have to follow blood trails atleast then the game wouldnt feel dead. No animals in scum just open land with sounds of animals you never see unless you play a badly though out hunting mini game.
They cauld really take inspiration from red dead redemption 2. For example make legendary animals, quests, animal hunter shop in the middle of the forest, or special rewards that benefits you.
I've only tried hunting once. I didn't know I had to interact with the clue. I found the first clue and as soon as I left the area the clue disappeared. A problem I saw was the direction the game told you to go wasn't the way you actually went. I rebuilt my base on the outside of the fence on the north side of the B2 airport. Hopefully there's still a bear and wolf spawn location just north of my base like before the update. I killed and saw quite a few bears and wolves.
It won't happen. I'm hoping that after they add AI, they find enough overhead in server performance to add wolves and bears back to the world spawns. We won't see animals for a LONG time.
From my educated guesstimate, it seems the animal sounds emanate from the direction of the clue until you examine it. That's why it sounded like it was coming from one direction, but the clue, once you looked at it, told you a different direction.
After weeks of learning and using the hunting feature you hear an animal sound and follow it. Focus mode while following the sound. Examine, it then gives you direction of animal. While tracking you may hear the animal from another direction that goes against the examined path. Follow the sound. Always follow the sound. Keep doing that and you'll find the animal. I find now you can search up to 5 clues before spawning.
I have successfully hunted predatory animals so far (basic awareness, medium survival, solo play). They leave lovely clues like mostly consumed animals as well as tracks. I haven't successfully hunted a prey animal yet because the prey animal sounds tend to start when I am doing something else and not in need of meat. Having watched this I have for the first time noticed the audio change when the animal has spawned in. The first audio clues sounded distant, almost like an echo, soon as the animal spawned in it was clear you were close to it and there was a moment of hearing its movement in the environment too. If you move past a clue and miss it, you should hear the animal sound behind you and backtracking will lead you to a missed clue. What you initially track is the animal's movement history in order to locate its present position. The direction change on clues I find quite realistic as animals will move fairly randomly in search of food rather than a linear trajectory. There are two settings that will stop the hunt, time and distance, so sneaking as soon as you get the minigame going will likely mean you run out of both due to your slower movement.
Here is the best way to hunt in Scum: DONT. It's literally the worst waste of time to get food in this game. You can literally RUN to a field of vegetables or fruit trees from anywhere in the map in the same time it takes to find the animal. And you will find more vegetables and fruits there which also stay edible for longer. Without cooking meat is 100% useless and cooking adds even more time waste on top, so just don't bother. It was clear from the start that the hunting update was very bad game design for a game like Scum, unfortunately the devs don't play their own game at all, so they simply don't know what's good for the flow of the game. Case and point the last hotfix, which implemented more bugs (broke important things like hovering info, scale of menues, etc.) than it fixed on top of that abomination of a content update that was 0.85. Without the 0.22 pistol and the loot change this 0.85 would have been 100% wasted dev time and there is nothing I hate more than devs wasting their valueable time on something that will bring absolutely nothing to the experience of a vast majority of players.
@@darkbrandongamerYou don't need any. In fact losing as much weight as possible is the way to go, because dexterity is linked with being slim. As in: Scum is fatshaming AF. It doesn't impact your strength either. Eating protein helps while training strength, but it's not required to keep strength. So you can be a stick but hulk at the same time. Because Scum is not realistic in any way. At the same time, standing AFK decreases you strength and condition... which makes no sense, because standing for a long time is very taxing on the body (see guard soldiers drop like stones when standing long for parades) so it should improve. But Scum is trying to force you to be active all the time (but then counts things like crafting as being inactive, meaning you'll lose condition while crafting a lot). Unfortunately Scum devs are going 100% in the wrong direction with almost everything they have done since they removed the old driving model. Every patch since has made the game worse overall instead of better. Implementing things nobody uses (=wasted dev time), adding things that completely ruin the balance of the mixed PvE/PvP environment, and loot changes that make basically 90% of looting locations useless. I've played 1366h between Sep 30th 2022 and Sep 20th 2023. So I literally played Scum for 3.85 hours PER DAY. And the experience went strongly downhill overall. Yes, pretty much every patch has 1 or 2 cool things, but all the rest make the game worse instead of better.
I'm curious if the much better performance is directly linked to not having animals on the map. I hope not, because I really want the animals back. I loved running into random animals and watching puppets chase them around or getting flattened by a goat charge.
This is the best Hunting guide by far my dude ty. I would hear the damn things and I was like where are they lol. I didn’t know you had to actually follow the clues, it is something different I guess. Edit it does make the world not feel alive anymore I do agree with that because this game has awesome sounds of the weather, wind and animals now the animals are basically gone. Anyway love the game SCUM but does feel empty and a lot of effort just to see one animals why can’t there be pairs or a group etc. I’ve played The Hunter so I know very well about hunting realism games but yeah once again this is different.
The only thing they should keep instead of the west, north, south etc on the chat is the old system that they copy from the hunter call of the wild that is checking the clues (drops ) that appear an arrow with the direction of the animal where they went. Because I don’t have always a compass
I wouldn’t mind this system so much, if the directional sound in this game wasn’t so frickin’ terrible! But I do think that passive animals should spawn in whilst predatory animals should be hunting us. HOWEVER, I think that predator animals should run away from loud noises if they are outside a ‘killing zone’.
I really like this hunting mechanic in scum. After all it’s just a game and don’t necessarily need to be super realistic like in real life with animals constantly walking around the map 😅 also this game mechanic is way more interesting and a bit of a challenge instead of just running straight into the direction, the sounds are coming from.
@@RayKit I had 2nd and 3rd clue in mind. It's even more noticable at 2nd clue when you were facing north east, sound came from that direction and after examining it, it said animal went south. So my guess is that clues "produce" animal sounds until actual animal spawns.
@@Seamur_Strife if you miss a "clue" by going past it at least, you again hear the sounds behind allowing you to backtrack to the clue so that makes a lot of sense that the clues produce the sound until the animal is spawned in.
The new system is wonky, but I understand what they're trying to do. I am also surprised that they took out the blood trails that you could use for tracking once the animal was wounded. The clues produce the sound and give you a general direction to go in, and as you proceed to the next it is then that you zero in on where exactly the sound is coming from (Hence why it said East, but the next clue was actually North-East). Being right on top of a clue that is still generating sound will still sound a bit distant, and if the sound is suddenly behind you it is because you missed the clue - common with sprinting between clues. Unfortunately with these changes, the positional audio for the animal when it spawns has become a bit odd - You hear their usual sounds and swear the animal is right by you, but sometimes it is quite a distance away.
Yeah I understand what you mean. From what we have known to what we have now is world's apart. Also finding animal carcasses and examining them shows the direction of a predatory animal which I find really cool. Everything is triggered by something. Would be cool to have to track without triggering tmfirst through examining etc but I understand that could be difficult.
@@RayKit I wonder how in depth they will get? Though I could understand the balance between immersion and tedium. I do traditional bowhunting IRL, and my last trek was tracking a deer over 6km of mixed terrain in the winter, though the area I was in was patchy with its snow. Tracking can tell you a whole story of the animals day, from my deer's relaxed walk in the snow, to the sudden appearance of coyote tracks pursuing, ending up at kicked snow with intermingled tracks, crashed reeds, and patches of fur. No blood though. The tracks departed with the coyote retreating. The deer continued with a quicker pace but then veered in another direction. I discovered he had caught the scent of a doe and watched/ waited as he tried to impress her for quite some time before that. He was a decent size with a decent rack, even having double drop-tines which is uncommon. She brushed him off finally, and you could almost see his shoulders sag with disappointment. It was then that I took the shot. His antlers still hang above any fireplace or room-focus-area that I've lived in. I was also thrilled to see Scum use the furballl silencers for bow strings, as I have the same ones on my own bow. They also provide a noticeable amount of kickback reduction.
The other day I heard some really scary sounds but thought it was puppets. I almost screamed when I went into a shed and stood face to face with a giant boar 😂
I no have problem with this new hunting system but trouble is dont exist random animals in open world - no visible animals in long distance, no more atacking wolfs and bears, probly never come back birds what you can hunt etc. Death world without life, only with zeds 🤷♂️ The new system is not bad. Hunting in real life is not easy too. But this need some changes and improvements. In all cases thanks for video and explanation how it all works.
Appreciate the comment vietrak. I find the wolves and bears don't need hunting as they're predatory animals. They hunt us. So to speak.. but yes I would like to see some work done to this to allow some we can see and some we have to track. Maybe advanced awareness should allow for this.
I tried this asa the 0.85 went live, so I built my first character with highest awareness skill possible. Until today, I have a big issue: I m not sure if it s a sound setting, but I always hear the animal sound from the same direction: from the left. Then if I turn to face it and start to track, again, I hear the future sounds from the left only. So the I gave up this mini game even if I find it really cool… but maybe something doesn’t t work well or I am doing something wrong. On the side note, even if I was not able to hunt anything until today, once looting the C3 large city, I heard wolfs around, I didn T gave to track them long before they attacked me until they crippled my both legs very bad… only my melee skills saved me and made the wolf flee…
As of June 20th, patch number 0.8.520.69325 bug fix "Fixed the bug where deers teeth were bulletproof and so they survived headshots. (No really, that was the issue.)" This was one of my favorite patch notes. Posted it here because it was hunting related, rofl
I'm playing the game on my laptop and there is no way to determine from where the animal sound comes from my laptops tiny speakers. And if by mistake i find a clue, it's to hard to follow because i'm playing on a hardcore server with too many puppets all over the place... no meat for me :)
They should spawn small game like turkeys, pheasants, rabbits and snakes spontaneously. The bigger game should be harder to find. Keep the predators how they are. Beavers would be cool. Raccoons also. I think even skunks would be awesome. Could even include a mechanic with the skunk sent that reduces attention from zombies
It feels like how you had to hunt legendary animals in RDR2. Not sure if they changed it to this method for server performance or what. I don't mind this method as much but would also be nice to still encounter random animals walking in the woods. The map feels empty without animals roaming around. Is there a method to find birds or do birds no longer exist?
This new system is confusing sometimes. I am not sure what to follow between clues or the sound. Sometimes a clue send me to east and all of a sudden the sound comes from like west the opposite direction where I have been passed. It often makes me just circle around. Guess they changed like this because of the optimization but idk. It takes away immersion imo. It missed good amount of immersion if the animals were real time entity.
so after getting first clue. do I focus on the direction of the clue or the audio cue to get to next clue? cause most of the time like you said there will be audio cues on opposite side.
Yep.. people loved to tell me to try it first. Okay buds! I said the hunting rework was trash when I first heard about it. Confirmed it was trash when I saw the streamer event. And still people wanting to defend it. Now that everyone has gotten their hands on it, it's a resounding NO from the community. At best, it needs work. They have essentially removed casual hunting from the game, and only a minority of players actually don't mind jumping through hoops for meat. It's fine.. we just have to accept that SCUM doesn't want roaming animals. Or they can't have them, for some technical reason. I guess I'm okay with that. Disappointed, but okay. The reality is, meat isn't that expensive at the traders.. assuming you want it.
yeah my awareness is on basic and jezz let me tell you shit feels fucking impossible to do, i tried to hunt down 4 animals now and i only managed to find 1 damn clue. i follow the sound as precise as i can and fucking NOTHING, so frustrating
I think RDR2 has a good example of hunting/skinning as does Day:Z so really the SCUM Devs should really take notes from those games and implement something similiar, i get that you'd track animals in real life and i totally understand that, but i think making it into a mini-game is a poor decision in my honest opinion, i personally preffered the way Day:Z implemented wild-life & hunting, it made the world feel more immersive and hostile at the same time, the only part that killed it for me on some Day:Z servers is when you get given starting money, and it allowed you to fully gear yourself up from the get go... So hopefully SCUM can avoid that and focus more on adding features where you must choose between certain things, i get that going into built up areas allows you to get clothing and such much quicker, but i personally think making you focus on building a base-camp and hunting first would allow you to get the feel of the game and introduce the game better and make it more interactive and immersive?.
@@RayKit lol, yes, those ones. I was looting C3 town and I could hear a bear grunting. I looked north and it was stood in the middle of the field. I have also found wolves by simply following the sound.
@@RayKit Bears and wolves are still random spawnable? 🤔 I am not sure. I play after 0.85 many tens hours and I no see any animal (official server) 🤷♂️
Wish they would go back to animals just roaming the wild and the new loot distributions thing they got going after the latest patch is poop before on a 3x loot server you could loot the B3 military installation and come out with a couple of long guns a hand gun or two assorted ammunition not alot but a few boxes usually enough to replenish what you used to kill the zombies in the buildings even on max zombies now even on a 10x max loot server you find a couple of pistols tons of clothing mainly shirts and hats a few loose rounds of ammo for guns you dont have and cant find any where ruined the game for me also all the development time wasted into making the female build a barbie when you make a female prisoner, i still can t throw my spare backpack down from a roof top when looting with an extra bag oh wait they sorta fixed it because unless you wanna fill a hicking backpack with military shirts tactical gloves and hats theres nothing to loot worth you time effort or ammo expenditure, and dont even get me started on the mech's are we in the realm of warhammer 40K they look like something from there completely inapropriate for the theme and percieved lore of the game at least imo, im about 1000 hours in to this game over 4+ years i think and i dont think ill get to 1001 with the state its in.
I don’t know what is the issue on scum, because on day z I always hear the animals sound first, I never have seen an animal roaming around. I hear the sound then I find it on dayZ
This new hunting method is terrible. If the animal noises weren’t all around you while you were hunting for the clues, I would get it, but it’s just not that way. Honestly, I would rather be able to sit in one spot and scope for an animal walking around.
This so stupid, so now they are invisible and will spawn in once you solve the clues? My God :) I love hunting simulator games, imagine that mechanic in The hunter Call of the wild.
this system has to be one of the worst hunting mechanism. the animal sounds are so scuffed and so annoying. the clue hunting isn't bad but it should be just animals running around and if you hear one you can see one. clues should only be there to help if needed to point out direrction or to give you a hint that there was a animal at your location not long ago
My awareness is not that high. So hunting is out of the question. A part of the game just got unavailable. I think this new style is a big step backward. No more animals to see while traveling. Damn
I HATE and I mean absolutely HATE this new system BC I can’t for the life of me find any tracks nor can I gauge where the animal call comes from and since you can’t find the animal until you find the tracks the world feels empty. Edit: Man.. It took you a long time to find an animal. There is no excuse for how bad this system is.. I mean as long as it takes you’ll starve in that process and I have on many occasions without being able to find an animal but luckily I have food stored usually.
so you get that annoing sound every time when you DONT want to hunt, and you have to paly stupid minigame wasting time when you WANT to hunt .... ye just go to any loot place, loot ,and sell what you find, you will get loot + you will be able to buy more food in less time with less headache than this hunting nonsense .... another of the developers´ "for the sake of ouer sheity servers performance" BS update
seems like a screwed up version of call of the wild honestly in that game you can walk around and still stumble on animals like deer so im not a fan of this hunting but its nice to know how it actually works as i heard donkeys' but couldn't locate them because of clues i didn't spot thanks for the information also something that i would like to see in scum as the world dose feel more empty is npc raiders that attack your base.or just roam around maybe other imamates that get drop that you could recruit to defend your base or could set simple tasks like cutting trees or gathering.
It makes the world feel less alive.
I would rather have the birds and animals and the puppets that chased them. The unpredictable encounters that hungry puppets created was just a small step in the direction of what this game badly needs. When I first started playing Scum a couple/few years ago, there was a Deer or Buck bedded down making this noise that sent chills down the back of my neck. I crept closer until I seemed to be very close, but I didn't see anything. When the Deer or Buck got up and bolted, it gave me quite a startle. I didn't see anything wrong with that natural gameplay and I don't think even 100 animals created lag problems on low-population servers. Moreover, hunting stands are going to be useless for anything but predators. I set Birds quite high on my server and it made the world feel much more alive.
Ray you don't need to sneak while looking for clues until the animal spawns becuase there is a timer and the animal can get away and awareness do help but if you just follow the audio clues you'll fine the clue easier
So your saying you don't need to sneak until the animal actually spawns?
@@RayKit no
@@lanzonamerlions Interesting... Thank you.
@@RayKit yeah that's it
Exactly! Shows even more how fucking stupid this is in regards to hunting. They might as well have just deleted all animals from the game. This new system is beyond ignorance. In all regards!
Great video and Tutorial for some that may like this new feature. I Hate it, done it and find it easy but takes away all immersion. Is this for server performance and they are trying to sell it to us as a "mini game" to look for "clues", its a step backwards in development.
Thank you! I didn't know we had to examine the clues. I figured using the visual and audio clues where enough. Now I understand why I was looking for the same animal for about 20 minutes and not getting anywhere.
Perfect!! I was wondering why I always hear animals and never see them even when I use the focus. Awesome vid
I kind of like this sort of hunting system for higher value targets or big game. It's more rewarding to track and hunt an animal that's going to provide you with a good supply of meat. But there should also be some small game that only provide a fraction of the resources that are just running around readily available to be hunted without the whole tracking mini game.
They should use this system for hunting legendary type animals. Normal animals/predators should still roam the map, it feels dead now.
Yea its called looting, selling to trader, then buying meat. If hunting was that stupid in real life humans would have died out a long time ago. I enjoy hunting games really they should have just made it where after you hit the animal it takes off running and you have to follow blood trails atleast then the game wouldnt feel dead. No animals in scum just open land with sounds of animals you never see unless you play a badly though out hunting mini game.
Well this explains why I always hear animals but never see them. Thanks @RayKit! 🤙🏼
They cauld really take inspiration from red dead redemption 2. For example make legendary animals, quests, animal hunter shop in the middle of the forest, or special rewards that benefits you.
I've only tried hunting once. I didn't know I had to interact with the clue. I found the first clue and as soon as I left the area the clue disappeared. A problem I saw was the direction the game told you to go wasn't the way you actually went. I rebuilt my base on the outside of the fence on the north side of the B2 airport. Hopefully there's still a bear and wolf spawn location just north of my base like before the update. I killed and saw quite a few bears and wolves.
i like the new hunting system. But should have animals walk around the world to. Like this( walking and see an animal and get exciting to see one )
It won't happen. I'm hoping that after they add AI, they find enough overhead in server performance to add wolves and bears back to the world spawns. We won't see animals for a LONG time.
From my educated guesstimate, it seems the animal sounds emanate from the direction of the clue until you examine it. That's why it sounded like it was coming from one direction, but the clue, once you looked at it, told you a different direction.
After weeks of learning and using the hunting feature you hear an animal sound and follow it. Focus mode while following the sound. Examine, it then gives you direction of animal. While tracking you may hear the animal from another direction that goes against the examined path. Follow the sound. Always follow the sound. Keep doing that and you'll find the animal. I find now you can search up to 5 clues before spawning.
I have successfully hunted predatory animals so far (basic awareness, medium survival, solo play). They leave lovely clues like mostly consumed animals as well as tracks. I haven't successfully hunted a prey animal yet because the prey animal sounds tend to start when I am doing something else and not in need of meat.
Having watched this I have for the first time noticed the audio change when the animal has spawned in. The first audio clues sounded distant, almost like an echo, soon as the animal spawned in it was clear you were close to it and there was a moment of hearing its movement in the environment too.
If you move past a clue and miss it, you should hear the animal sound behind you and backtracking will lead you to a missed clue. What you initially track is the animal's movement history in order to locate its present position. The direction change on clues I find quite realistic as animals will move fairly randomly in search of food rather than a linear trajectory.
There are two settings that will stop the hunt, time and distance, so sneaking as soon as you get the minigame going will likely mean you run out of both due to your slower movement.
Here is the best way to hunt in Scum: DONT.
It's literally the worst waste of time to get food in this game. You can literally RUN to a field of vegetables or fruit trees from anywhere in the map in the same time it takes to find the animal. And you will find more vegetables and fruits there which also stay edible for longer.
Without cooking meat is 100% useless and cooking adds even more time waste on top, so just don't bother.
It was clear from the start that the hunting update was very bad game design for a game like Scum, unfortunately the devs don't play their own game at all, so they simply don't know what's good for the flow of the game.
Case and point the last hotfix, which implemented more bugs (broke important things like hovering info, scale of menues, etc.) than it fixed on top of that abomination of a content update that was 0.85. Without the 0.22 pistol and the loot change this 0.85 would have been 100% wasted dev time and there is nothing I hate more than devs wasting their valueable time on something that will bring absolutely nothing to the experience of a vast majority of players.
won't you eventually lose fat reserves if you don't eat animal meat?
@@darkbrandongamerYou don't need any. In fact losing as much weight as possible is the way to go, because dexterity is linked with being slim. As in: Scum is fatshaming AF.
It doesn't impact your strength either. Eating protein helps while training strength, but it's not required to keep strength. So you can be a stick but hulk at the same time. Because Scum is not realistic in any way.
At the same time, standing AFK decreases you strength and condition... which makes no sense, because standing for a long time is very taxing on the body (see guard soldiers drop like stones when standing long for parades) so it should improve. But Scum is trying to force you to be active all the time (but then counts things like crafting as being inactive, meaning you'll lose condition while crafting a lot).
Unfortunately Scum devs are going 100% in the wrong direction with almost everything they have done since they removed the old driving model. Every patch since has made the game worse overall instead of better.
Implementing things nobody uses (=wasted dev time), adding things that completely ruin the balance of the mixed PvE/PvP environment, and loot changes that make basically 90% of looting locations useless.
I've played 1366h between Sep 30th 2022 and Sep 20th 2023. So I literally played Scum for 3.85 hours PER DAY. And the experience went strongly downhill overall. Yes, pretty much every patch has 1 or 2 cool things, but all the rest make the game worse instead of better.
I'm curious if the much better performance is directly linked to not having animals on the map. I hope not, because I really want the animals back. I loved running into random animals and watching puppets chase them around or getting flattened by a goat charge.
It is.
You aren't the only person that wants them back.
This is the best Hunting guide by far my dude ty. I would hear the damn things and I was like where are they lol. I didn’t know you had to actually follow the clues, it is something different I guess. Edit it does make the world not feel alive anymore I do agree with that because this game has awesome sounds of the weather, wind and animals now the animals are basically gone. Anyway love the game SCUM but does feel empty and a lot of effort just to see one animals why can’t there be pairs or a group etc. I’ve played The Hunter so I know very well about hunting realism games but yeah once again this is different.
The only thing they should keep instead of the west, north, south etc on the chat is the old system that they copy from the hunter call of the wild that is checking the clues (drops ) that appear an arrow with the direction of the animal where they went. Because I don’t have always a compass
I wouldn’t mind this system so much, if the directional sound in this game wasn’t so frickin’ terrible!
But I do think that passive animals should spawn in whilst predatory animals should be hunting us. HOWEVER, I think that predator animals should run away from loud noises if they are outside a ‘killing zone’.
Agreed having both this system to aid in hunting whilst still having passive spawns is the best of both.
I thought game glitched, I was looking for a chicken near my base for hours! Couldn’t see it… now know why…lol
No wonder I couldn't find anything. Thank you for this!!!!!
I really like this hunting mechanic in scum. After all it’s just a game and don’t necessarily need to be super realistic like in real life with animals constantly walking around the map 😅 also this game mechanic is way more interesting and a bit of a challenge instead of just running straight into the direction, the sounds are coming from.
Think its clues that "produce" animal noises so even tho animal could be in different direction at the end.
The animal makes the sound first then you find the clues. Not clues first.
@@RayKit I had 2nd and 3rd clue in mind. It's even more noticable at 2nd clue when you were facing north east, sound came from that direction and after examining it, it said animal went south. So my guess is that clues "produce" animal sounds until actual animal spawns.
@@Seamur_Strife if you miss a "clue" by going past it at least, you again hear the sounds behind allowing you to backtrack to the clue so that makes a lot of sense that the clues produce the sound until the animal is spawned in.
The new system is wonky, but I understand what they're trying to do. I am also surprised that they took out the blood trails that you could use for tracking once the animal was wounded.
The clues produce the sound and give you a general direction to go in, and as you proceed to the next it is then that you zero in on where exactly the sound is coming from (Hence why it said East, but the next clue was actually North-East). Being right on top of a clue that is still generating sound will still sound a bit distant, and if the sound is suddenly behind you it is because you missed the clue - common with sprinting between clues. Unfortunately with these changes, the positional audio for the animal when it spawns has become a bit odd - You hear their usual sounds and swear the animal is right by you, but sometimes it is quite a distance away.
Yeah I understand what you mean. From what we have known to what we have now is world's apart. Also finding animal carcasses and examining them shows the direction of a predatory animal which I find really cool. Everything is triggered by something. Would be cool to have to track without triggering tmfirst through examining etc but I understand that could be difficult.
@@RayKit I wonder how in depth they will get? Though I could understand the balance between immersion and tedium.
I do traditional bowhunting IRL, and my last trek was tracking a deer over 6km of mixed terrain in the winter, though the area I was in was patchy with its snow.
Tracking can tell you a whole story of the animals day, from my deer's relaxed walk in the snow, to the sudden appearance of coyote tracks pursuing, ending up at kicked snow with intermingled tracks, crashed reeds, and patches of fur. No blood though. The tracks departed with the coyote retreating. The deer continued with a quicker pace but then veered in another direction. I discovered he had caught the scent of a doe and watched/ waited as he tried to impress her for quite some time before that. He was a decent size with a decent rack, even having double drop-tines which is uncommon. She brushed him off finally, and you could almost see his shoulders sag with disappointment. It was then that I took the shot.
His antlers still hang above any fireplace or room-focus-area that I've lived in.
I was also thrilled to see Scum use the furballl silencers for bow strings, as I have the same ones on my own bow. They also provide a noticeable amount of kickback reduction.
The other day I heard some really scary sounds but thought it was puppets. I almost screamed when I went into a shed and stood face to face with a giant boar 😂
I no have problem with this new hunting system but trouble is dont exist random animals in open world - no visible animals in long distance, no more atacking wolfs and bears, probly never come back birds what you can hunt etc. Death world without life, only with zeds 🤷♂️ The new system is not bad. Hunting in real life is not easy too. But this need some changes and improvements. In all cases thanks for video and explanation how it all works.
Appreciate the comment vietrak. I find the wolves and bears don't need hunting as they're predatory animals. They hunt us. So to speak.. but yes I would like to see some work done to this to allow some we can see and some we have to track. Maybe advanced awareness should allow for this.
Tracking with stereo sound will always result in the source potentially appearing to come from the opposite direction to the one stated by the clue...
I tried this asa the 0.85 went live, so I built my first character with highest awareness skill possible. Until today, I have a big issue: I m not sure if it s a sound setting, but I always hear the animal sound from the same direction: from the left. Then if I turn to face it and start to track, again, I hear the future sounds from the left only. So the I gave up this mini game even if I find it really cool… but maybe something doesn’t t work well or I am doing something wrong. On the side note, even if I was not able to hunt anything until today, once looting the C3 large city, I heard wolfs around, I didn T gave to track them long before they attacked me until they crippled my both legs very bad… only my melee skills saved me and made the wolf flee…
As of June 20th, patch number 0.8.520.69325 bug fix
"Fixed the bug where deers teeth were bulletproof and so they survived headshots. (No really, that was the issue.)"
This was one of my favorite patch notes. Posted it here because it was hunting related, rofl
Lmao thanks dude made me laugh. I'll be making videos when I get back from Canada
I'm playing the game on my laptop and there is no way to determine from where the animal sound comes from my laptops tiny speakers. And if by mistake i find a clue, it's to hard to follow because i'm playing on a hardcore server with too many puppets all over the place... no meat for me :)
I miss getting jumpscared by Goats already.
Big fan of scum but this hunting system needs work. I should be scrapped and redone. At this point they're just polishing a turd.
They should spawn small game like turkeys, pheasants, rabbits and snakes spontaneously. The bigger game should be harder to find. Keep the predators how they are. Beavers would be cool. Raccoons also. I think even skunks would be awesome. Could even include a mechanic with the skunk sent that reduces attention from zombies
It feels like how you had to hunt legendary animals in RDR2. Not sure if they changed it to this method for server performance or what. I don't mind this method as much but would also be nice to still encounter random animals walking in the woods. The map feels empty without animals roaming around. Is there a method to find birds or do birds no longer exist?
Wait so if you have high awareness you get this skill? Does the clues show if you dont have high awareness?
This new system is confusing sometimes. I am not sure what to follow between clues or the sound. Sometimes a clue send me to east and all of a sudden the sound comes from like west the opposite direction where I have been passed. It often makes me just circle around.
Guess they changed like this because of the optimization but idk. It takes away immersion imo. It missed good amount of immersion if the animals were real time entity.
so after getting first clue. do I focus on the direction of the clue or the audio cue to get to next clue? cause most of the time like you said there will be audio cues on opposite side.
I heard a bear earlier, followed the sound, couldnt find it even though i found tracks. So did i scare the bear or what?
Do I need to do these things every time I need to hunt?!
Yep.. people loved to tell me to try it first. Okay buds!
I said the hunting rework was trash when I first heard about it. Confirmed it was trash when I saw the streamer event. And still people wanting to defend it.
Now that everyone has gotten their hands on it, it's a resounding NO from the community. At best, it needs work. They have essentially removed casual hunting from the game, and only a minority of players actually don't mind jumping through hoops for meat. It's fine.. we just have to accept that SCUM doesn't want roaming animals. Or they can't have them, for some technical reason.
I guess I'm okay with that. Disappointed, but okay. The reality is, meat isn't that expensive at the traders.. assuming you want it.
Did they change this because I have random boars charging me and stuff outta know where
Yeah they changed it again xD
@RayKit nice that makes me happy
animals spawn now
next to POI s not in midde of forest :)
I don't know where I can find a rabbit in this patch
"we need to ear the animal..." AND YOU DO NOT STOP TO TALKING !!!! OMFG
You only need .22 for everything except Bear.
Well, that was very tedious. Gonna very hard for starving characters with low awareness 😢
yeah my awareness is on basic and jezz let me tell you shit feels fucking impossible to do, i tried to hunt down 4 animals now and i only managed to find 1 damn clue. i follow the sound as precise as i can and fucking NOTHING, so frustrating
So basically fish until you have advanced awareness...got it.
I think RDR2 has a good example of hunting/skinning as does Day:Z so really the SCUM Devs should really take notes from those games and implement something similiar, i get that you'd track animals in real life and i totally understand that, but i think making it into a mini-game is a poor decision in my honest opinion, i personally preffered the way Day:Z implemented wild-life & hunting, it made the world feel more immersive and hostile at the same time, the only part that killed it for me on some Day:Z servers is when you get given starting money, and it allowed you to fully gear yourself up from the get go...
So hopefully SCUM can avoid that and focus more on adding features where you must choose between certain things, i get that going into built up areas allows you to get clothing and such much quicker, but i personally think making you focus on building a base-camp and hunting first would allow you to get the feel of the game and introduce the game better and make it more interactive and immersive?.
I still regularly see animals without doing the hunting mini game.
Which animals? Only bears and wolves and maybe boars will attack which means no need to hunt. They are predatory.
@@RayKit lol, yes, those ones. I was looting C3 town and I could hear a bear grunting. I looked north and it was stood in the middle of the field. I have also found wolves by simply following the sound.
@@Blanny1974 Awesome to hear this! Just shows predatory animals don't need tracking which is great!
@@RayKit Bears and wolves are still random spawnable? 🤔 I am not sure. I play after 0.85 many tens hours and I no see any animal (official server) 🤷♂️
@@Blanny1974 hmmm maybe I no have a luck 🤷♂️
its like Hunter Call of the Wild on Gamepass
How to make a game boring is to put in a stupid way of hunting in it.. Great video here thanks.
Thanks for the video! But man they need to fix this - This is horrible lol
I really don’t like this system. Also now we won’t randomly see a puppet chasing a goat anymore!
OMG i hate that they don't spawn normal, i will never find any animal in the game
The change to hunting is actually stupid asf
Wish they would go back to animals just roaming the wild and the new loot distributions thing they got going after the latest patch is poop before on a 3x loot server you could loot the B3 military installation and come out with a couple of long guns a hand gun or two assorted ammunition not alot but a few boxes usually enough to replenish what you used to kill the zombies in the buildings even on max zombies now even on a 10x max loot server you find a couple of pistols tons of clothing mainly shirts and hats a few loose rounds of ammo for guns you dont have and cant find any where ruined the game for me also all the development time wasted into making the female build a barbie when you make a female prisoner, i still can t throw my spare backpack down from a roof top when looting with an extra bag oh wait they sorta fixed it because unless you wanna fill a hicking backpack with military shirts tactical gloves and hats theres nothing to loot worth you time effort or ammo expenditure, and dont even get me started on the mech's are we in the realm of warhammer 40K they look like something from there completely inapropriate for the theme and percieved lore of the game at least imo, im about 1000 hours in to this game over 4+ years i think and i dont think ill get to 1001 with the state its in.
Some things are a little more rare.. but if you had 10x loot, you'd very quickly be able to sell enough to buy a nice weapon.
well, since you sell the meat etc at the traders they cant make it too easy
They really just should put the animals in and get rid of the dumb shit
If there is one thing that scum should copy from day z its the hunting and animal behavior.
I don’t think so, I think the new system is fine just the way it is. Although I hope Birds come back
Facts I agree
I don’t know what is the issue on scum, because on day z I always hear the animals sound first, I never have seen an animal roaming around. I hear the sound then I find it on dayZ
@@aithemed how long have you been playing Scum?
This new hunting method is terrible. If the animal noises weren’t all around you while you were hunting for the clues, I would get it, but it’s just not that way. Honestly, I would rather be able to sit in one spot and scope for an animal walking around.
It's been changed since this video dude. Animals Roam as well.
@@RayKit Thanks bro. I'm glad they changed that
This so stupid, so now they are invisible and will spawn in once you solve the clues? My God :) I love hunting simulator games, imagine that mechanic in The hunter Call of the wild.
😂 so thata why i have never seen anima
hate the new hunting system i ignore animals completely now, pretty rubbish not having all the animals roaming
this system has to be one of the worst hunting mechanism. the animal sounds are so scuffed and so annoying. the clue hunting isn't bad but it should be just animals running around and if you hear one you can see one. clues should only be there to help if needed to point out direrction or to give you a hint that there was a animal at your location not long ago
Difficlty animal tracking rabits, very small and faster..
My awareness is not that high. So hunting is out of the question. A part of the game just got unavailable. I think this new style is a big step backward. No more animals to see while traveling. Damn
I HATE and I mean absolutely HATE this new system BC I can’t for the life of me find any tracks nor can I gauge where the animal call comes from and since you can’t find the animal until you find the tracks the world feels empty.
Edit: Man.. It took you a long time to find an animal. There is no excuse for how bad this system is.. I mean as long as it takes you’ll starve in that process and I have on many occasions without being able to find an animal but luckily I have food stored usually.
Oh dear.........not a fan of this system, not at all!!!
a clue a clue
this doesn't exist anymore.
I tend to update players on my live streams as well as videos as the game progresses. Cheers dude
but why is this video still up? it comes up in the search. @@RayKit
More like game play than a guide.
so you get that annoing sound every time when you DONT want to hunt, and you have to paly stupid minigame wasting time when you WANT to hunt .... ye just go to any loot place, loot ,and sell what you find, you will get loot + you will be able to buy more food in less time with less headache than this hunting nonsense .... another of the developers´ "for the sake of ouer sheity servers performance" BS update
seems like a screwed up version of call of the wild honestly in that game you can walk around and still stumble on animals like deer so im not a fan of this hunting but its nice to know how it actually works as i heard donkeys' but couldn't locate them because of clues i didn't spot thanks for the information also something that i would like to see in scum as the world dose feel more empty is npc raiders that attack your base.or just roam around maybe other imamates that get drop that you could recruit to defend your base or could set simple tasks like cutting trees or gathering.
This hunting system was reworked in order to help server load, which will help when they add roaming NPC's in 0.90 and beyond.
this does not seem worth it to waste the points on
Wow.. find 3 clues to spawn an animal into the game.. the defs really know how to turn this game into a joke
This has to be the WORST hunting system ive ever seen in a game.
They retracted their feature. Mostly find animals roaming now.
For a game that’s so into making it feel realistic.. this hunting is the most arcade like BS I’ve ever seen. Makes no sense whatsoever
you should redo this video when you actually can give a decent tutorial..
dumbest mechanic ever
wow it suck big time...anyways thanks for video
goodluck trying to hunt if you hard of hearing and cannot tell where the sounds are coming from anymore. this feature was poorly thought out.