I don't think the hatred towards rashtra is totally wrong. I mean look at the audience young girls to middle age woman, from probably heterosexual. Probably from a conservative immigrant (a lot of immigrants look down on divorce and homeweckers.)family. Who will marry men, If my husband who I was with for a long time cheated on my or brought another woman home even if she was from a poor background. I would still be mad. I wouldn't be a girls girl to the girl and I wouldn't feel bad for her situation. Sovishshit is a bad person, however he was still Navier husband who she had a connection to. Rashtra is some random girl. Also it may be people projecting their situation's onto rashtra, as there are a lot of rashtras in the real world. (Home-weckers). I am a Rastra hater and I will die on that hill, Karma is real and she is facing it.
@@A-girl-named-olive yea its not totally wrong because Rashta is a bad person but the hate towards her outshines any other narrative in which we are dealing with antagonists, she is hateable but the hate is out of proportion.
He gets a ton of hate too, but he just does less directly antagonistic in the manga than Rashta. ETA: And its made clear taking in a concubine is common in their world iirc
Cause he is a man.... Simple as that, "oh but theres's plenty of male characters who are hated" sure, but lets be honest its never on the same level, using other comic as an example. Many people would hate Minthe from LO more than Apollo, they might hate him, but they would despise her
@@VaellinTheBard no I still hate him even more than rashta as he doesn't seem to care about her, the queen more much anyone else. He really took in the false belief that he's the only one to get hurt and no one else has personal motivations. Rashta was intentionally raised with no education, false information and people using people to get a head. She's desperate and being used. He's greedy for more though he has most everything
@@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel thats you. I was talking about the readers in general. Sovieshu is hated, but Rashta gets the spotlight and is directly antagonistic more than Sovieshu, which is why people comment on their hatred of her more than Sovieshu. But both have demeaning nicknames.
YOU’RE SO RIGHT OMG. I see people LOVING her when OMG??? SHE’S SO CLASSIST IT’S INSANE. People hated Rashta for talking back to her that one time they were outside, but let’s be real here, they’re both bad people. Rashta was pretty much just molded by her circumstances.
Fr like why was the narration trying to make me feel bad for the girl that abused her SLAVE, while pretending that said slave is the real villain?? The Remarried Empress has some of the most dishonest narratives I've ever seen, it's utterly bonkers.
Thank God I was waiting for someone to bring this up. Lebetti is always portrayed as this cute girl who idolizes Navier and despises Rashta for being a slave to begin with but hey! She can be used as a self insert for the readers so it's fine. Lets not forget Alan, his relationship with Rashta was very teacher-student like where he had all the power over her as one of her masters, so essentially he 🍇ed Rashta because yes, even if she did say "yes" she doesn't have the right to say no. Instead the fandom praises him to high hell for being a good dad.
At first, I hated Rashta ngl. Now, I just pity her. Stuck in a loveless marriage with a man whose pining after his ex, she's got no friends, and is being used by everyone around her. It's sad.
Exactly this, I started off hating her then kinda just began to pity her and have settled on a pitying dislike. Some of her added cruelty towards the middle/end is really unnecessary, she should have been the unfortunate villian whose only evil by circumstance and what others have made her do. I hate that the author saw all the hate and just have in to the mob with her character. I think it would have been a lot better to have her karma cash in at the end and her have a mild redemption after losing a lot and actually trying to redeem herself towards the (I'm assuming here) eventually broken empire.
@@TheFrogsMadeMeGay exactly. All of this. Like, do I think she deserves a happy ending? No, but her baby daddy does. He deserves a woman who loves him and his children just as much. I do think Rashta deserves a lukewarm ending though.
@@Brit626 i love how the main comment under this one explains it much better than I could, she was her baby daddy's slave, she had 0 consent to fuck that man, she ran away to the emperor because she could at least gain some of her own power she deserved a happy ending, and truthfully? she might've literally been the only one considering fuckhead empress choses of all people a man who wants to go to war with her nation, not caring about all the people in situations identical to rashta's who will be brutally slaughtered in event of a war, because y'know, mandatory conscriptions
@@townjester 0 consent? Are you just choosing to ommit facts to suit a narrative of Rashta being a complete victim? Rashta knows how to suck up to people and get their attention, it was mentioned that she seduced the male staff the duke's mansion not to mention the one-eyed dude who lost everything when he helped her escape. If the baby daddy really forced her into it, the baby shouldnt be even alive to avoid any rumors whatsoever. Rashta was also shown to know what she's doing to the empress and emperor's relationship but continues to do so. Its medieval politics, if Sovieshu's country manages to gain a successful mage army division, Heinry's own people are screwed. Navier cares about the commoners it was even a plot point where Navier gave money to Rashta to continue her charity work with money from Navier's own pocket instead of asking the palace. She literally spent her whole life working as an empress even her childhood was spent on kaing sure she's going to be a great one. Suddenly on illeterate, talentless hack takes it away from her? Youre acting like sheknee about the plot against mages when she went with Heinry
@@Brit626 To me it was the actual opposite. The earliest in the plot she was legitimately bubbly and actually fine with sharing Souvesh*t with Navier and calling her sister seemed completely without malice. I pitied her for how much she didn’t know what she was getting into. But then she tried to wreck Duchess Tuania with a hairbrained plan to get the spotlight off herself and little by little I stopped feeling sorry for her. And the moment she starts terrorizing her maids for no reason just set it in stone for me.
The story really is a fairytale flipped on its head: -A beautiful, kind, and naive peasant girl (whose foolishness makes her a villain) -The cold and calculating jilted queen (who loves her people and wants the best for everyone) -The king who finds the poor girl in the woods and gives up everything to be with her (including his wife and his reputation) - and a brave, handsome prince from a far away land (who is only interested in a married woman)
never thought about how weird for not one but two princes be very in-love with a women who is already married and this people seem to be circling waiting for them to break up to get with the queen
Rashta couldn’t even consent to having her two babies because she was literally a slave. She was being petty and vindictive towards lebetti because that was her abusive master. She’s such a sad character. She has no one to help her because everybody wants to use her.
nah, she's not a saint. I started hating her when she killed the person that helped her escape slavery. the man was already unhealthy and living in a dump. And he didnt even ask her to help him but she killed him to cover up her past. then there was a time she framed her maid for the petty thing with the bird she did. She was in the maids position not that long ago but she still got her killed. And even the way she treats her maids speaks volumes. She is either mean, disrespectfull or outright abusive. she may have been a victim but she is also an abuser.
@@malbertha1989smh, I feel that the author wrote her to be unlikable- because they realized that if webtoon users use more than two brain cells to think it over the entire story-they realized that the other characters are quite shitty- so uh yea- they tryna make Rashta slightly worse than the others 😭
She's a bad person, dont try to justify her awfulness cause she has a sad backstory.Rashta was a sad slave girl cause obedience was her only option, she tried to woo a guy she only liked cause she thought he will pull her into nobility. The only thing being in the palace gave her was autonomy, she did all the horrible things else herself.
@@happysocialmoth1197 idk maybe, ive seen some authors change the color palette of the ex lover so that she doesnt look more pretty than the main girl. [Cough i'll be matriarch in this life cough] But i just stated why i dont like her. She comes from a horrible background yet shes cruel to people who are living the life she escaped.
Imma say one thing i also commented on webtoon. THE WAY Soveshu romanticizes Rashtas childish behavior and missing the way Navier was when they were children honestly feels pretty suspicious
Yeah he’s very Mr. Peanut butter from bojack where he loves youth and wants women to maintain naivety and has a very specific way he wants his wife to act. He doesn’t like a woman who doesn’t need him. And navier might not have loved him romantically but she was very much his faithful companion but he wanted desire from her I think.
@@5autumndream The thing about Navier though.... She was fully ready to accept a royal concubine. He could have had his lovers and his companion, IF he had actually kept with the standards for behavior.
@@5autumndream You're dead on. He wanted her to be jealous, but Navier wasn't jealous in the least. Navier was raised to do/think/behave a certain way, a lowly concubine isn't something for her to be jealous of.
@mariebaldwin9057 YES THIS, Navier was ok that he took in a mistress after all it is the norm for emperors but Soveishu kept PUSHING. No joke, he pushed and crossed way too many boundaries to the point where he broke Navier and destroyed her sense of worth and love. Soveishu is the absolute WORST.
Sovieshu was the real bad one. He did all this to Navier. Rashta became a horrible person. She was a naive girl thrown into high society. Sovieshu spoiled her so she thought she could get away with everything. Rashta was just a victim too.
NONONONO she's NOT a victim lets not forget that she attempted to KILL people or cut a person's TONGUE off!!! Let's not forget the horrible things she did nobody told her she could he like that.
@@lazylua9526 being a victim and being a criminal are not mutually exclusive. Bad things can happen to you which makes you do bad things. Rashta is Indeed an abuser but she became an abuser because of Sovieshu. She's still an abuser but she is Sovieshu's victim
@@lazylua9526 To be fair, she does go insane from paranoia over the course of the story as it becomes increasingly obvious that she isn't cut out for what she got herself into. Still doesn't justify much of what she's done to others nonetheless.
She didnt necessarily became bad as a result of it, she was previously in a position where there was no other way to be aside from obedient but now that she was given autonomy, she abused the hell out of it.
Rashta is a flawed character but everyone seems to overlook her trauma of being a slave, her master's son impregnating her, promising better life and then taking away and killing the baby. No wonder she is obsessive and absolutely insecure in her position, she needed to survive while being at the very bottom of society and I can't blame her for that. I understand her and I am sad witnessing her descent to madness from always fearing for her and her child's safety, while her husband turns on her. I used to write those things in webtoon comments, I'm happy someone had similar thoughts in the sea of unreasonable hate smelling of misogyny 💕
I have a lot of sympathy for Rashta, but some of her actions just can't be justified. Not in the slightest. Rashta always played dumb and was always selfish. Navia was cold but even she had some sympathy for Rashta so she overlooked some of the things Rashta and the emperor did. Rashta was never a child. She knew that being a mistress, having sexual and romantic relations with the emperor who already had a wife, did not make them 'sisters'. She addressed her improperly from the very beginning. It's harsh but Rashta acknowledged herself that this was the 'punishment' for 'not knowing her place.' I think the issue was when Rashta's selfishness extended from herself to affecting the empire. Navia was a selfless empress through and through. Yes, she has her flaws and can be a terrible person. And she's quite a boring character. But no one makes my blood boil like Rashta. There was no need to do a lot of the things she did. I know she was scared, untrusting, and traumatised. But when it comes to being a leader of an empire, she only thought about herself and not the implications of what would happen to people like herself. She never thought of slaves like herself. Navia didn't either, but how can she blame Navia for something she couldn't even do when she was a slave? She wanted to be happy. I understand that. But when you're a leader of an empire certain behaviours cannot be justified or overlooked. The emperor was objectively a bad person. So is Navia. But they were both good leaders despite it. That made them tolerable. Rashta was flawed... and she was ignorant to it. Ignorance and incompetence are the most annoying traits people can have especially since all it does is hurt others... and yourself.
No, they are not ignoring it, you are infantilizing an adult woman. I'm really sick of people go "Oh but they were abused!" as an excuse. I'm a victim of abuse too and I have f@cking autonomy. Your mindset of excusing people's bad behavior CREATES MORE ABUSERS! Ironically Rashta is an example of this because no one is holding her accountable so she just keeps doing horrible things and justifying it. All abusers have a justification, often times real ones, but letting them off because of them really just makes you their next victim.
@onba7726 thank you... We need to stop infantalizing abuse victims. I literally learned to stop being a victim in therapy and take control of my life instead of letting my past abuse control me.
That kind of thinking also leads to poor storytelling too because writers will then use that as an excuse for poor behavior. Because they had "trauma" so of course that's why they're are bad and it leads to readers being expected to just forgive or dismiss bad behavior
I think the reason that she was so hated is because when this comic came out she was the first white lotus character on the platform. When I first read the comic, part of the reason I (and many others) where intrigued was this was the first time I had seen a protagonist come from a privileged background rather than the typical tragic poor and powerless background. The interesting part of this comic was that the typical spin on protagonist and antagonist was reversed and the trials we saw each character face was fresh. If this comic came out now I would think it was boring or chicle, but at the time it was something new, I think that made Rashta so iconic and memorable as a villain.
Yet they don't have an issue with the comic with the woman literally collecting men like objects and owning them like property, some who are characters of color.
I know right. Remarried empress is so horrible, I hate every character. Well, that's a lie, I like them but hate how they were executed. Rashta was sympathetic but she's so selfish and ignorant that I wish she'd go through her trauma all over again. She was a slave and went through so much but we've never seen her do anything to help the commoners like herself. Yet she criticises Navia? Please, you're both bad, but at least Navia was good at ruling the empire. Navia was taking the sides of slave owners and was extremely hypocritical in disliking Rashta but also flirting with Heinry. Rashta also 'didn't know her place', quote from the comic. I'm sorry but no matter what, as a mistress, why the fuck are you calling the wife you've insulted just by existing your 'sister' and addressing her so informally? Like, I know you're a commoner, but you can't be that dumb. Navia could have literally killed her... and there was also no reason to keep trying to humiliate Navia. There was also no reason to dip her hands in blood and put the empire at risk with her unstable rule as an empress. Navia was horrible and selfish, but Rashta isn't any better. A sympathetic backstory isn't enough to make you likeable. The webtoon 'your throne' did this trope way better.
@callmenameless9970 Lmfao yeah. I felt the migraine I had literally just gone away once I finished typing. If I could speak, the rambling would literally never end. I always have too much to say about these things since people love to start up discourse and then do a 180 and start a discourse on the original discourse.
Also nobody calls out heinly for doing far worse things than her. It's just pure misogyny. Some antis even admitted that they wouldn't care if Rashta was a Navier simp. This fandom suffers from "one good woman"/MC syndrome. Some even started defending the slavery. Those Rashta antis are deranged sometimes. Heinly, Kaufman, Kosair, Egi did so many terrible and creepy things, yet only her gets called out. It's always the woman that gets hatred. Male characters could be creepy, murderers they're forgiven but women can breathe wrong she'll be branded as the worst character.
@@Vampire_cat13 you find what? Do you see Kaufman getting hatred for drugging people like Krista did? Or Kosair getting hatred for wanting to abort Rashta's baby or cheating on his fiancee? Webtoon praises those men cause they support Navier
You made a very good point.I absolutely agree that misogyny is so rampant in this story. Literally all of the male characters here have committed one atrocity or another but they don't get called out for it at all meanwhile one woman who is repeatedly taken advantage of and repeatedly thrown under the bus by all the men in her life takes the fall, is labelled a villain and all the misdirected hatred that should be projected towards these horrible men instead.
You do need to consider the time period this story was written in. For one, women don't hold a lot of power. Navier was sold off to the emperor's family before she was born. Rashta was born to slaves so she became a slave herself. Both where sold and used by the people around them. The difference between Navier and Rashta is that Navier is someone who takes responsibility for herself and does what she wants within those possibilities. She was raised to lead a nation. Not born to be a child. Rashta on the other hand had the life of the lowest class with no proper education. Because of the abuse she suffered she can't find strengths and objects to use around her. For example Navier left Rashta aid for charity projects and others so she could boost her own image as the new empress. In an attempt to show that she never blamed Rashta for her desperate acts to undermine her authority within the palace. Because Navier recognized Rashta held no power at all. So she gave her an up to gain more power for herself. Rashta was the person that couldn't recognize the gesture as kindness and aid. If readers gotta pick between a character who sees the situations for what they are and what their own role is in the situation and they take responsibility for it or if they gotta pick between a character that drowns in hopelessness and don't take any chances they are offered. People are more likely to pick their ideal character rather than the character that reminds them of themselves. And if I gotta be honest if there's one character that made my blood pressure rise it's Sovishu. That asshole already had a slave as wife. Navier was sold before her birth to him. It's just put into this shiny jacket of she's the empress. Rashta was just the second slave he picked up. And where Navier has the pride and strength to run away and do her own thing. Rashta is too scared to make a move because if it goes wrong she'll die. But in doing so she made the most stupid choices and it's sad.
@@Souchi-ito I don't remember that first one but I think Kosair was unreasonable and stupid. Why abort when the woman doesn't want? It's her opinion. I just don't normally type out my opinion on these things cause I don't like the drama on the original sites. They're so annoying.
In most webtoons Rashta would be the protagonist her story is pretty heroic, specifically in the beginning and Navier could totally be her villain, but since we see things from her perspective. It becomes an intresting switch up. But I do agree that the fandom took it too far and also it would have been interesting if she hadn’t gone full villain and could have been redeemed
This is something that I thought was done pretty well with Diane Portier from I will give up my seat as Empress, who eventually came to the realization that the one she should blame was not Adel (the MC), but the Emperor who drove them both to the brink
I would still think Rashta is horrible even if she were MC at that story, she will steal someone else' husband whose wife is incredibly faithful and supports said husband. She is someone who refuses to give an olive branch to anyone unless they completely kneel to her.
I was about to comment the same thing. In a different story her behavior wouldn't be too far off from a harem female protagonist entering the palace and moving up the ladder for a higher position.
@@anotherclone7687If she were the mc, it would not be framed as her "stealing someone else's husband", it would be her "being saved from being a slave". And the queen's faithfulness wouldn't be highlighted as much, the fact that their marriage was one born out of convenience and duty would be more so highlighted, making the marriage seem much less real. Also all the times characters have looked down on her cuz of her social status would be treated as something actually disrespectful instead of just being casually said in passing cuz theres quite a lot of that in the current story.
It will always irritate me that Navier ( and the audience) is pushed to side and like Lebetti. I hate how the author refuses to have Navier acknowledge that Lebetti is an ABUSER and SLAVEOWNER, not a fan girl, not a victim or ally. Rashta has every right to hate her, to embarrass her. I will never have any sympathy for Lebetti, her brother, or understand any reader who sided with them.
i was incredibly upset when rashta sold lebetti for slavery because of the act of selling a girl for slavery (a girl who, while tolerating horrible misactions and being horrible to rashta, was still y know, a kid, who is not responsible for the fact that rashta suffered in the first place) seemed SO horribly out of character???and deplorable asf??rashta as a character would likely kill or torture lebetti, not fucking sell her to slavery??????????and If she did I would honestly shrug and toss that aside in the 'bad thing to do but honestly wont hold it against her' territory, despite that, I do despise lebetti. she fucking sucks and does not deserve the kind disposition navier gives her. at the same time I also understand shes a product of how she was raised and becomes an adult after rashta runs away, meaning she had no time to distance herself from what she was taught. i have a very very small amount of sympathy for her and that's simply because of the fact that she doesn't deserve to be sold into slavery; no one does, not even lotteshu of all people. she does deserve straight up ridicule and harassment from rashta; rashta deserves some comeuppance after all. no sympathy for her brother though, he's an adult man who slept with a slave who realistically could not say no, convinced her he loved her and would free her and let his father torment and permanently traumatise her. anyone who has sympathy for him should redirect it to his son or rashta. (sorry;;;this got really extended I'm just super passionate about that one plot because its the only thing I hold against rashta except for the killing that one dude thing. everything else goes into the 'it makes sense and I just want her to get therapy and actual real support so she could even attempt at being a better person.' realistically she cant because she has no support, is isolated and is being manipulated from every side and struggling from ptsd that prevents her from giving love to her child; one she may have not wanted, but one she wants to love and care for)
@@LittleSirBoyI also felt that it was really out of character for her to have her maids tongue pulled out??? (Cuz the maid found the bird feathers hidden under rastcha pillow, no idea why she kept them) I don’t understand why the author would make rastcha do such a thing and not have her stress over it, she basically tortured the girl and lied to her brother( who helped her be seen in a positive light to commoners !! ) I’m glad there’s a hiatus now or else I would’ve dropped the story, it feels like the author is just making rastcha the most evil when there are SLAVE OWNERS in the comic
@@sofiafuentesargueta8036welp fun fact, the comic/webtoon is an adaptation of the novel of the same name. You can read the tl version of the novel in NovelUpdates (where they link peeps who are translating the novel) or go to it's Spoiler Forum to spoil the story.
@sofiafuentesargueta8036 exactly, after all if you have the sole slave character as an enemy to all the rich royals including slave owners, the only way to keep the fantasy fulfilment comfortable for the young girls reading it is to demonize the slave and have her commit atrocities.
@@LittleSirBoy Not saying it's the right thing to do, but trying to sell Lebetti into slavery makes perfect sense for Rashta. Lebbtie mistreated Rashta for being a slave so if Lebttie herself becomes a slave, she'll get a front row seat to how she made Rashta feel. With the added bonuses of Viscount Lotteshu losing his own child to slavery, a horrible trade he himself contributed to and gleefully basked in such abuse.
I used to hate her, but the more I read the novel, the more she looked like an ordinary human being to me. She was a slave who was abused by her master both physically and emotionally. she is powerless, that's why when shovieshu offered her comfort, she accepted it imediately. Rastha actually good in nature, when the first time she met navier, she genuinely want to get along with her, not knowing what she did for stealing navier's husband was wrong. but rastha was a slave for all her life. she is uneducated and never interct to people like a normal people would. in her mind, that's probably the normal things. her trauma of losing her child and betrayed by his former lover make her twisted. no one was on her side to help her. her husband abandoned her. her friend who she trust the most was actually a person who was sent to plan her downfall. I feel sorry for her.
Yeah honestly I believe she actually started off as good and sweet person in the first season, it's just everyone basically used her or treated her like she was just some thing instead of a person. Hell at first she generally wanted to be friends with the empress and in a later chapter she has a flashback where she actually dreamed of meeting the empress and thought that she would be good to her. But instead Navier constantly treats her like an enemy, constantly attacks her verbally, now I get why she does some of it, but a lot of it feels just out of pettiness and it can go too far, like befriending Rashta former master Lebetti who's an abusive little brat and don't forget when Navier's brother legitimately tried to poison Rashta with an abortion drug to get rid of her unborn child and when Navier finds out she wasn't furious with him, in fact she's only upset when Sovieshu banished his dumbass, Navier even going so far as to lie to a priest who says, "your former husband says your brother attacked her." And she denies it even though she knows it's true.
@@cutelittlecatgirl.6202 ikr, being friends with libetty was definitely too much. Liberty is not even a good person. She was as horrible as her father and deserve punishment. Navier's brother is basically a psycho. He will do anything for his sister even if it's a crime. Our ML is not even the sane one. He is manipulative and will do anything to get navier as his wife. Tbh, if the story was from rastha's perspective, we probably will cheer for her.
@@user-nn6lu9mm9n Your definitely right I was so mad when Liberty wasn't going to become a slave now I'm not going to be saying she should be a slave forever, and a lot of her ignorance and cruelty come from her extremely cruel and asshole father, but she should at least get a little taste of the abuse she put Rashta though in the hands of a better writer that would actually be a good start to a character redemption and growth. And you definitely right about Navier's brother Kosair he is nuts, he comes off as seriously psychopathic look, look I get why in some sense he's doing it because he loves his sister but he's clearly an idiot and that whole abortion drug incident hurt his sister more than actually helped her. I mean I get why his sister is the way she is as she was raised to be empress and didn't really have a childhood, but what's Kosair's excuse for being such a psychopathic little shit? And Heinrey is honestly pretty creepy the way he's pining for another man's wife and using his bird form to get near the queen and the stuff he does after he finally has her I mean geez, in other story he'd actually be a major villain of the story, he'd be a tyrannical despot and remorseless killer like murdering his sister-in-law and tormenting her father who had nothing to do with what she was up to, he also destroy an entire house, it's family even the servants, the guy's a remorseless killer that in any story you want to see his head taken off. Yeah I also believe if the story was from Rastha's perspective there would be people actually rooting for her, I mean there would be some parts that needed to be changed or go like the whole removing a servants tongue and whatnot, but besides that she has the makings of a protagonist far better than an antagonist. I mean she far better and more interesting than the plank of wood of a main character Navier.
I'd say that the easiest thing to do when writing a good villain and protagonist, is to NOT make the villain a slave, and then not make the hero the second most powerful person in her empire, who totally had enough power and influence to end said slavery in the first place.
Yeah man, the reason why I drop the series is because Rahsta case is just VERY PITIFUL. She's literally a young naive girl throws into lion den. If they make her a noble or change her personality, it can work.
lets not act like heinrey wasnt making moves on a married empress of another country which could easily get her into scandals. he also used his friend to manipulate rashtha if this story went any differently heinrey would be the master manipulator who did everything to isolate navier and then took her away to his country lol
@@danny8747it’s the way people praise and kiss up to Heinley for THE EXACT THING THEY ACCUSE RASHTA FOR DOING (seducing and pershing a married man/women). And how he originally came to conquer Navier’s empire in the first place. But it’s ok because he’s the love interest who can’t do anything wrong, right?
That's not the author's intention though, at least not from my perspective. I love how the author wrote Rashta with complex layers, like her moments of being on the edge of doing the right thing but getting side-tracked because of how toxic the world is. Why would the author do that if their intention was to make Rashta a villain for readers to hate? I actually love the story because I saw it as a challenge to the readers to make a proper judgment. A number of the 'liked' cast of characters do some god awful things, will the readers cast the same judgment towards the 'liked' and 'unliked' characters fairly? Especially when you consider Heinrey's character and the timing of when we the readers get to know him better.
It's called bad writing. The authors message summed up,'How can a slave ever compare to an empress even if she is stunningly beautiful. Know your place'
@@MaryamAhmed-on9hu I don't get how you come to that conclusion. It seems just as extreme as all the rashta hate. I think it is quite obvious that rashta is supposed to be a really tragic character that we come to understand and feel bad for with time. If the author wanted to tell a story about how immoral poor people are, they would not show that every bad decision rashta takes is a direct results of her traumatic past. If the author would intend to bash poor people, rashtas situation would somehow be her own fault.
@vorgebrauchschutteln3859 I think you are being very charitable towards the author. I have read the whole novel on Yonder and at certain points too much grace is given to the protagonist characters, while no such courtesy is extended to others. E.g Naveir got a shining hero ready to break the universe for her , while rashta gets blackmailers and manipulators calculating her demise. I have enjoyed reading it, but the disparity is glaring.
Rashta is easy to hate for girls in the "not like other girls" frame of mind. She fits a lot of girly stereotypes. She's ultra feminine. She's pretty, men fall in love with her, and she notices and exploits it (though she's also exploited for it). She's helpless against her slave background when most people like to think they would find their way out (even though she did escape physically, which is impressive, she is still socially trapped and blackmailed). Navier is interesting as a protagonist because she is really not like other girls. She's described as "cold" but she even seems autism-coded. She's work-focused. Strategic in action, prefers structured relationships and clear boundaries. She seems repeatedly befuddled about emotions and big emotional displays. Slow to respond to emotions in the moment. She seems to take a long time to process and identify her own emotions. When upset, she shuts down her expression and internalizes. Despite being married in a relationship that used to be warm and friendly, she seems inexperienced in feeling attraction or interest towards men. Her marriage to Heinrey almost seems like a second puberty. She's really easy for teen girls to relate to even though she's a grown woman. And presumably the demographics of heavy webtoon readers skew introverted and neurodivergent. She is also "not like other girls" in the meme way. She is conventionally beautiful but she seems...almost neutral towards being beautiful. It hardly benefits her since Rashta stands out. Navier is never seen "trying" to be beautiful except that she gets a special dress for a special party. Like prom. Rashta copies her appearance and dress, relatably devastating. Rashta is the pretty girl who likes parties and easily navigates social situations and seeks people out. An introvert's terror.
this webtoon hate just proves how people don't truly understand the severity of what slavery is. if you were genuinely a slave, her actions and circumstances make sense. I feel her character is like the hidden main character. tragic, and surviving.
The fact that i saw many people comment disgusting things about Rashta being a slave was a shock, like being a slave means you don't have freedom , you're literally a living object, they go as far as saying she shouldn't have ran away , like she didn't even make the choice of being pregnant with her past owner , he owns her and used her , and she wanted to be free from him , how's that bad ?
I saw a post about how under any other circumstances the fact that Navier upholds that system of slavery would make her the antagonist but instead it's a story where the slave is villainized.
@@izayoi2006 well that doesn't make sense the emperor has thr highest power so it would've been uo to sov to outlaw slavery, not navier, also being a slave doesn't mean you go out of your way and abuse your power once it's given to you. She said she would very on thr commoners side, and yet she switched up, being a slave is no excuse for what she did. And if the slavery thing is the empress's thing, why didn't she try to abolish it? I sympathize but in no way do I condone or actions just because she was treated badly.
@@izayoi2006normally it would make sense that Navier couldn't abolish slavery considering the intricate process that takes years that could even break out in civil war. But if we consider the astromincal plot armour that Navier has it would be easy for her to just say "hey, slavery is bad, let's abolish it. And everyone else would essentially be like "Well the FL said this is bad so I guess we gotta agree with her." This sounds absolutely stupid but considering how Navier is viewed as Jesus christ in this world, it wouldn't be totally out of the question
the way they wrote and drew her in some scenes made me forget her justified motivations. Overall her greed and corrupt throughout the story is understandable when you look at her unstable roles in society. Her character arc just gets more and more depressing the more you look at it 😭
he is hated waaaaay less. and the why is actually very simple! misogyny! not the one that is shown willingly, but rather the one we all have engraved in our minds as members of a patriarchal society. it's easier (expected and even in some instances encouraged) to dislike a woman over a man. ik this sounds like leftist conspiracy theories, but just take a look at male vs female villains are received in other media (esp when the audience isn't predominantly queer)
I remember going to the forums that both were hated, but I think Soveishit was more hated. And we're happy to learn that SPOILER...... He was the one infertile
Plus, I do think the webtoon was tainted by the novel fans, who kinda overhyped how horrible these two peeps. While Soveishit showed his true colors, Rashta hadn't. So it's a waiting game to see if these overhype commenter are true or not.
I just find it very icky that the bad guy is a slave. Why can't it be another noble or queen? I have always noticed that a lot of Korean webtoons/manwha have women who are not rich as bad guys or two-faced, but the rich girl is always the good guy. Can we have a main character who is poor be the good guy.?
I think it might be because the trope of a poor girl marrying a prince is a little overused but for some reason, a lot of manhwa authors misinterpret deconstructing a typical trope as "villainze everything about the original trope no matter what"
I personally think one of the best webtoons is she's hopeless as the characters in that are actually three dimensional, they have their flaws and no one's perfect. When we meet the main character's love interest she is a bratty spoiled jackass, but as we get to know her we see why she is the way she is and you legitimately do feel bad for her. I also particularly love the ending as it felt more realistic than a lot of these other Korean webtoons.
My biggest concern is why are the people who hate Rashta acting like slavery is some minor inconvenience instead of a massive human rights violation? Even in this world, your parents or grandparents could’ve gotten in trouble, and you’re a slave due to guilt by association, which I think is what happened to Rashta. Seeing people call her a gold digger or that she doesn’t help commoners (as if anyone in the comment does either) so that makes her a worse person is kinda gross, when even if she was a gold digger, she’s a slave. No one wants to be a slave. If she’s trying not to be a person who’s humanity is considered null and void, then I’m glad she’s taking advantage of her owner’s son an and the emperor. (She didn’t, but even if she did, these men don’t deserve happiness.) Also, I never saw Navier doing anything to get rid of the slave system, even she definitely had the power to do that. “But she cared about her people, even the commoners!😢” Yeah, and the slaves were her people too, but since they’re basically objects, I guess they don’t count.
Ikr, like do we have to explain to them how depraved and disgusting slavery is in general with detail? I can name 3 atrocities it wouldn't even scrap the tip of the iceberg.
Theyre young usually so they dont have the perspective to see that flawed people arent always the villain and theyll grow up to realize this world is blurred between grey neither white neither black AND they just want something to hate.
@@sunshines4898same but sometimes they just genuinely don’t know better, I’m 15 (pretty young imo) and I know better but that’s bc of other factors and some ppl don’t have the experiences and etc.
This is why I couldn't get into the remarried empress. I hated the way slavery was handled by the author and the fandom's rabid hatred of Rashta in the first few chapters gave me the ick.
I disliked Rashta from the first season, and when I got to the third season, then I hated her. On the other hand, I despised Sovieshu the entire comic, hes barely done anything kind, and harming everyone around him with little to no thought.
Honestly same but I feel both of them are in the wrong but I pity rashta a bit. I think she has a good character with a good story and I think she could’ve had more 😭 But the emperor seems like real villain he doesn’t show love to his wife of his concubine- which rlly pisses me off
What? Other than bringing a concubine, being an ass to Navier, he did everything else in kindness. He ruled the empire properly despite being mentally unstable, let the nephew of his traitor cousin free unlike birdshit who did everything cruelly except for being a bootlicker for MC even then he touched her without consent in his bird form. Sovieshu is a pos for treating MC unfairly but rest was far from cruel compared to birdshit
I will say that if the point of Rashta was to be the petty evil manstealer, I don't know why they chose to make her a slave. There's a reason a lot of these rival girlies in media are from much higher standing then the FMC's - it's because it makes the FMC look like the underdog. Navier is an empress from a happy life of privilege. No matter what mean things Rashta does, it always feels a little like Navier is punching down on her.
This was exactly the reason why I dropped the comic so early. I could NOT be expected to root for the empress against a slave, no matter how "likeable" the empress was or how "awful" the slave was. Like I don't care how much of a hate sink Rashta is supposed to be: nothing about that dynamic will make me root against a slave and for an empress who is complicit in that slavery 🤬
Don't let the rabid hate comments influence you into thinking that the author also intended for Rashta be so hated. Copying my comment on another post here: That's not the author's intention though, at least not from my perspective. I love how the author wrote Rashta with complex layers, like her moments of being on the edge of doing the right thing but getting side-tracked because of how toxic the world is. Why would the author do that if their intention was to make Rashta a villain for readers to hate? I actually love the story because I saw it as a challenge to the readers to make a proper judgment. A number of the 'liked' cast of characters do some god awful things, will the readers cast the same judgment towards the 'liked' and 'unliked' characters fairly? Especially when you consider Heinrey's character and the timing of when we the readers get to know him better.
I agree that sometimes I find all the worldbuilding including Navier cruel, but i also like this time the roles were reversed. Cause just cause Navier was privileged, it didn’t mean she couldn’t be hurt.
The point of rashta is to show how people act when they got power. How Navier act when she is the empress, got banished, lost everything she works for and now try to get her place in new kingdom, How sovietshu act like power is a sure things that he always have and then lose sight because of inferiority complex towards his own wife. How Henry is juggling down between being a king in situation where wasn't ideally chosen to be one. And then How Rashta acted when she got the power and still couldn't understand that she got a choice. The manhwa begin with rashta winning, and also she is indeed win the fight with Navier but the fact is that she can't be satisfied with that. I feel like people don't understand that Rastha has sad backstory but just because of that, all her bad and cruel action can be forgiven. Also just because Navier was born in privilages doesn't mean she was always happy, she was forced to be the empress and genuinely love sovietshu. Then she loses everything and building her life again. It's to challenge that specific idea, not to see a privilage people as punching down just because they have better life and choose a better decision. Navier chooses to leave when she could stay. And to be able to discren that rashta, even with or without power is still a cruel person. The author try hard to make her symphatethic as opposed to sovietshu but all people get was "Rashta was never wrong". No one lives knowing tongue should be cut out yet Rastha did it. I feel like people can't comprehend that people who is born better doesn't mean they can't have hardship and you deserve everything, even to cause harm to other people if you've been harmed before. Like they forget how Rastha aid in navier downfall even when navier had left her alone. People should read beyond the divorce part and actually see Rashta action rather than trying to justify her.
@@anastasyavie6236you're so effing right, its so annoying that we unconsciously jump to the idea that going through hardship can excuse mean, obnoxious behaviour. no one has the right to inflict harm on others no matter the background. there are some holes in the story, like how the author kinda glazes over the fact that there are slaves in the Empresses's empire and she didnt really challenge that? like, 'navier is a good hearted ruler, empress for 5+ years' yet her people are enslaved?! I dont remember that topic being tackled, but i hope it was?? Anyway, back to Rashta. we are allowed to feel for her, wether it be anger, sadness, disgust or pity. we get to know her past(which is so fucking sad it felt like a telenovela) and we watch how she acts during the main story, the choices she makes.... she was somewhat naive and unable to judge her own and people's actions (understandably so, she's traumatized on many levels) which caused so much trouble... why would your lover's WIFE send you a welcoming gift?! and give your unborn, affair child a gift cause now there is finally a royal baby?!?!?!?! Since we are talking about 'when we should forgive', lets take a look at Sovieshu and just some of his terrible choices. THE fucking emperor found a wounded, runaway slave while he hunted and though "oh nice! my wife couldn't get me an heir but this woman might! lemme ruin my marriage through an undisclosed scheme and drag my wife's face through the mud for more than a year while the empire fawns over my concubine just cause shes pregnant, pretty and down to earth!" THATS NOT DECENT PERSON BEHAVIOUR, NOTHING EXCUSES THAT AND THE FANDOM AGREES! ....so why shouldn't people act the same towards rashta? her background is pitiful but she had choices once she found the emperor.... choices such as 'dont be a homewrecker', 'dont turn into a concubine', 'dont purposefully stepp on THE empresses toes' and much more even after Navier got out of the picture Yes, Rashta took her newfound power to push back on her EX SLAVE OWNERS (i think thats fair) but her maid was innocent and got her tongue cut; her second baby's nanny was innocent, yet rashta was so quick to defame her when the maid ran to the emperor on behalf of the royal baby's well being; the mage girl that was treating the emperor's health was innocent, but Rashta thought she was competition and plotted to kill her; i havent read the novel in a long while, thats all i remember from the top of my head... I think most people in the fandom are as violently mind dead as sovieshu, like, wanna help the slave? buy her out, start working on a social reform to fix YOUR KINGDOM, give the slave a good JOB so she can be independent, publicly push back on slave owners BUT DONT DESTROY YOUR MARRIAGE, LET YOUR COMPETENT WIFE HELP THE PEOPLE AND THE KINGDOM LIKE SHE WAS DAMN TRAINED TO DO!!!! Making horrible choices doesn't make Rashta less of a human being, but being traumatized doesn't make her less of an abuser either. if someones economies were suddenly stolen and they turned to robbery to stay afloat, should their crimes be justified? people watching from afar might say yes, but its easy to say when the money wasn't yours.....
Holy shit I finally. Understand. Remarried Empress is one of my guilty pleasure comics, but reading the comments always made me feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Like don’t get me wrong, she does do some truly heinous things, but like I read her backstory and position and I’m just like. “Wtf is she supposed to do” I genuinely feel like Shovishu should be the one receiving the hate Rashta does, and while I’ve never seen anyone like the man it’s insane that SHE’S the target of pretty much everything. Like, this girl was a slave. And slaves can’t just…escape. Being this concubine was literally her only choice. Like, a lot of the stuff she does is a direct reaction to things happening TO her. Also there’s a thing even you didn’t really talk about which has always bugged me: Something no one seems to care about is…Rashta’s entire world experience is _completely_ different from Navier’s. She doesn’t have the same connections, opportunities, and education. Shovishit (which is a much better bastardization of a much worse character’s name, imho) tossed Navier aside and shoved Rashta into the new role of empress without anything more than some VERY basic lessons. Like, the girl was still learning to read and write, because that wasn’t an opportunity she had as a slave. She’s being forced to navigate this completely different world with barely even a fraction of the knowledge and time her predecessor had to learn how to do so. She also comes from a life that force fed her the life lesson that you are the only person who will ever have your own back. She’s been abused and mistreated and used her entire life, and coming here she STILL is, she just has nicer clothes and a full belly while it happens. Nothing has challenged her world view that no one around her can be trusted. Especially now that her husband and her “only friend” have also started tossing her aside, ignoring her, and betraying her. She has no allies. No one has her best interests at heart but herself, and she is not actually qualified to make the choices she has to make. Of course she’s fucking it up. She’s uneducated, unaware, and alone. If there was a single goddamn person in this comic that treated her like a human being, instead of an obstacle, a pawn, or a toy, then maybe she could grow. If she could trust anyone, maybe she could BECOME a girl’s girl. But she doesn’t, so she can’t, and she likely won’t. She’ll continue making terrible decisions because she is ALWAYS in a corner in her own mind-even if she really isn’t, she has no context for really being able to tell. She’s a bad person, but you can clearly see the thread that made her become that person, and that makes her so interesting to me. And I’ll be forever sad that other readers and 99% of commenters only seem to see this 2 dimensional villain bitch when there is SO much depth to explore here. Also, your spreadsheet slaps. I fuckin love spreadsheets. Making a spreadsheet to track a characters actions to understand why the masses hate her is exactly something I would do. It’s a beautiful spreadsheet I want to see it in depth
Piggybacking on your comment because you eloquently put into words what I felt reading the comic. I don't like Rashta, but her actions make sense in the context of the world and her story. I feel sad for her, and she definitely does not deserve the level of hate that readers feel for her.
remarried empress is the type of novel/webtoon where main characters get reincarnated as the villainess (Rashta) in other webtoons and then eventually fix her actions and feel sympathy for her.
People are always ready to hate on a female character. They love using the excuse of it is common for other female characters to be bad. Also people ask for more women supporting women but it seems to be that they find the opposite more interesting
Personally, outside of Rashta not being supportive to her fellow women, I think it’s because Rashta and Navier are subversions of their character archetypes and it both fascinates and frustrates the readers. The best way I can describe it, it’s sort of like if there was a high school story about the shy and quiet poor girl getting the attention of the popular quarterback away from his popular cheerleading girlfriend and that you later see how malicious, spiteful, and rude the poor girl is compared to the popular girl who is helping the awkward girl in class get her confidence up or lending money to the janitor because he’s fallen on hard times. You don’t expect the popular, rich girl to be sweet and kind and you don’t expect the poor and quiet girl to be more of a mean girl, but because that’s what the story shows you, it gives you a range of emotions and expectations.
Your description kind of fits with the webtoon, but the popular cheerleader isn't participating in making the poor girl or and others continually keeping them poor, the queen had every opportunity to end slavery but she didn't. Also if you made your description into a story I think you'd at least make the characters three dimensional.
I want a comic based on Rashta. I want to see ALL of her story and her slow decent into madness from toxic and exploitative people, an unsupportive environment and overall unfortunate circumstances she had to fight tooth and nail to get out of
no no no, he is good father to his child not to "the child who is not actually his" well we all know , its not like he intentionally tried to be a father of the child which is not actually his. cause if you have read the actual novel the you are going to know how he just abandon the child completely after knowing the child wasn't his. idk from where you got this view but i can't agree he seem to be selfish and also "Heinrey is a good husband but not a good father" can you explain this line more cause i don't remember plot supporting your statement so can you provide more details
@@roshanisah6241In the sequel where Lari (the female twin who, simply put, “looks like Navier but has Heinrey personality”) is the main pov. There’s an implication that Heinrey favors Lari more than Kai (the male twin that looks like Heinrey but has Navier personality). At one point he fails to reprimand Lari because she looks like Navier and we all know that he’s head over heels for his wife. Kai also seems to get ignored. However, whether it’s because of his introversion (and Lari is much, much more outgoing) or because Heinrey favoring Lari is up to debate for this part.
Idk why but I now hate Henrey so much, at the start I liked him but I think since they got engaged (and I grew up) he's unbearable to watch for me, I don't don't have a real reason I just hate how he is and how he is constantly like "🥺👉👈"
Bro the one comment about her not being innocent cause shes a slave is so messed up. Wtffffffff Honestly the women in the story sound like victims while the men just sounded like monsters. Its insane everyone hates her when these women deserve way more kindness.
A user on reddit said it best in my opinion, though I'm paraphrasing this: Rashta can't have any good qualities because then it would be easy to sympathize with her over Navier. Let's face it, Rashta is hated because she's written to be hated by the author. She's selfish, impulsive, naive, petty, cruel, two-faced etc. Every repulsive trait you could give your female villainess, she has it. Her background is a tragedy that the average reader could sympathize with, but it's intentionally offset by her character writing--because if she had one redeeming quality, we would be able to look at the severity of her past as a slave and see how light Navier's issues seem in comparison. A runaway slave with no family, sold by her father to pay off a debt, taken advantage of by men all her life, who could barely read nor write, who lost her child at birth when it was wrongfully taken from her, trying to make a better life for herself in an empire that condemns her? While Navier was born with a silver spoon, raised to be the empress surrounded by wealth and adoration throughout her life, including by loving parents who cared for her, and received the highest form of education as a royal. Infidelity is horrible and indefensible regardless, but in comparison to Rashta's problems? Wouldn't the average reader make an obvious choice if Rashta was written to be more sympathetic? Rashta's a wasted character written by an author who either didn't think of the implications of Rashta's past or tried their very hardest to not let it interfere with how the characters are viewed. And having finished the video, I think that's also a part of why you didn't understand the common consensus for Rashta, apart from her not being a girl's girl which I agree with too--you viewed her character arc as a character arc. You didn't justify her actions, instead, you extended it into her backstory and saw Rashta as a tragic character who couldn't be free from her past and her flaws, and her desire to have everything, as a result of the trauma from having (and BEING) nothing before then, ultimately leading to her fall. You saw the potential of her character from the start, independent from the main characters--beyond being the "Mistress", beyond being the inferior adversary to Navier's story, beyond being a plot device, really. And I think that's more than what a lot of the readers and the author conceived of.
Also i’d like to point out the forced pacing of reading episodes only once a week instead of at your own pace. Some things are allowed to fester in your mind longer than it probably should due to having to wait for an episode. The actual pacing of the story is now off because of it. I could think a character did something absolutely horrible at the end of a chapter and it would stain my view of them, and then next week it’s revealed to just be a fluke. That character is still stained, even just a little, because of it sticking there for so long. And, sure, the relief that it’s just a fluke is gonna last for more than just one week but the damage has already been done. I’m not saying that’s what happened but things similar to that are probably what’s going on with the readers as well. Plus lets not forget that the average age for the general readerbase of the Remarried Empress is likely on the younger side.
THIS!!! i honestly couldnt read the comic after awhile because the treatment of Rashta's 'character' was so poor and obviously no well thought out. i always wondered why Rashta became the antagonist and not Sovieshu, wouldn't that be the more engrossing story? Imagine the drama of former friends becoming enemies due to their societies expectations of them! instead, we got the black and white narrative of Rashta vs Navier.... Also, as a black woman, they idea that I need to empathize with an incredibly privileged noblewoman who does nothing to stop the SLAVERY in her country over a SLAVE using the few advantages she has (her looks) is absurd and insulting. The Remarried Empress could've focused on the misogyny at play in their society, but the author chose to Madonna-Whore it.
That comment about Naiver being a girl's girl somehow made me more upset than it should be. Because if befriending the daughter of a slave owner is considered a girl's girl, then I don't want to be one. Seriously, if Sovieshu didn't start shit, one of the female side characters usually does. Navier was only nice to Rashta when she was her maid in the AU side story. In short, the message says you can get away with anything as long as you're friends with the right person and never venture outside your place in society. That is if you oppose the "good guys".
Honestly that is true. All the women who worship the ground she walks on are all beneath her from ladies in waiting to commoners and what do you know? The queen dowager Krista ends up being treated as a threat to the point where she had to be dumbed down, humiliated, and killed off to keep Navier as the ultimate girlboss.
Would you be nice to the affair partner of your SO? Yes, becoming a concubine was rashta's only option to have a better life, but to navier she was only her husband's lover, the one thing he promised he wouldn't do because his father hurt his mother by having concubines
@@jbgra2566honestly not want to be friends with Rashta is fine but man, I wish they make Navier smarter. Like okay, there's new concubine in palace, she's commoner and has no idea about palace politic. What I don't like is the fact that Navier is the Queen and she has every right to control the maid, the servant and even the friend of the concubine. Her opponent is not even a noble. Irl, getting rid of Rashta will be very easy lmao. Man, this webtoon has so many problems.
It's so interesting because I don't even think the writer UNDERSTANDS their own women. If we're being honest Navier never loved him and didn't WANT him like that. It was the COMPLETE lack of respect for their traditions and what they spent their whole lives being ready for (and being bestfriends through) that broke her heart. I don't even think Navier even hates Rashta as much. I truly believe if Rashta hadn't survived as long in the palace and got thrown out/replaced, Navier would've made sure she was looked after at least a little.
I dropped out Remarried Empress as I didn't like the story. I didn't care too much about Rashta since she was acting for the sake of survival. What I hated was how everyone portrays the Empress like the most intelligent and capable human being, yet she failed to defeat Rashta even in the easiest situations. It was sold as a story about the greatest empress, but all I saw was an absolute failure. Also, no one condemed the actions of the other prince even though he is as horrible as Rashta: taking advantage of the Empress' emotional vulnerablity, HELPING bringing down the Empress, and practically flirting with the Empress in front of the husband, etc... A bad story with the typical author saying, "This character is good/bad because I said so. It doesn't matter how they act or anything else."
"It was sold as a story about the greatest empress, but all I saw was an absolute failure." OH IM WRITING THAT DOWN THAT WAS FIRE 🗣 💥 Edit: Thnx for the likes yall...mom look im famous 😂
I thought Henry was icky for being friends with the Duke who planned to ruin Navier's marriage and the fall of their empire. But I was petty and thought he was a nice middle finger to Sovi.
My criticism on Navier is how bad her communication skills are which no one talks about. We see the story in her POV so we know how she thinks and feels but not the other characters.
rashta finally being free from being a slave, finally with agency, only to find that she actually DOESNT have agency, and thus doing her best to rely on emotional manipulation and her own charm/beauty to find even a SCRAP of control over her life, and feeling the need to compete with navier and prove that she is worth anything to sovieshu, as she is afraid of being cast BACK into slavery if she doesn't perform as she ought to (ADDING ONTO THE FACT THAT NAVIER DOESN'T LIKE HER AND SOVIESHU IS/WAS ACTUALLY PLANNING TO GET RID OF HER???): average webtoon reader: SHE IS SO EVIL I HATE HER SO MUCH!
@@martinramirez1856Nobody is justifying her actions. People are discussing how sickening it is to pick over a girl who had EVERY RIGHT to grow into madness and become such a horrible person.
Sovieshu was honestly the real villain. I'll be honest, I am someone that started out passionately hating Rashta, why? Simply because she was annoying, but the more I got used to her, the less I hated her but hated her actions, they made me so angry because of how downright and obviously dumb some of them where, like choosing dishonest maids, heaven knows why, killing someone who helped you, getting mad at Navier for no reason and many more, but I got angrier at her actions, the more I started to pity her. Sovieshu used her like a breeding animal, completely disregarding her after she had her baby, she couldn't even hold the baby when she got the chance and threw her like a football because she was badly traumatized, her former master kept blackmailing her, when she didn't really have access to everything. Her obviously stupid decisions kept getting her more hate, making it difficult to have good companions. Ergi the only person she really trusted, backstabbed her in the worst possible way, and her child even isn't Sovieshu's, and she can't even be blamed for that, because it means just after "loosing" her child, Alan the real father, probably slept with her again, maybe even r*pe! Prompting her to run away. I really felt bad for her (I still hate everything she did though) Because you could really see the innocence in her eyes. She's innocent, dumb, and illiterate, how does anyone expect her to understand pregnancy timing and all that. She's a very interesting character, one I hate, get angry at, and pity every time I see her. I wish she'd dissappear or die peacefully so she can be free from all this.
Honestly, I just wasn't able to continue liking the story after realizing that the morality of it just revolved around Navier: If Navier likes you=You are good. If Navier doesn't like you=You are bad. And it's just INSANE to me, because at the start, Rashta wasn't even bad? Like, she was ignorant, desperate and traumatized (because, you know, she was a RUNAWAY SLAVE), SOVIESHU was the one who took her in as a concubine and refused to teach her about etiquette and limits because he wanted to use her to make Navier jealous, people hated her for being "the mistress" but having concubines was actually common practice on the empire, we are supposed to dislike Rashta from the start when the only "crimes" she commited were: Acting childish and cry, and then we are supposed to ignore she just gets worse due to the way everyone around her uses and manipulates her (Ergy, being the biggest example, he literally and purposefully pushed Rashta into doing more heinous deeds, but the narrative will just brush over that facet because Ergy is, kind of, on Navier's side). But Rashta is just bad, because she got on Navier's nerves. In contrast, Sovieshu is actually not so bad because he did love Navier and went kind of crazy for how much he missed her, and Kosair, whom we are told is violent and kind of crazy, is also not bad even though he tried to cause Rashta to miscarry, and Heinrey is also not bad even though we are told: he actively sabotaged the lives of mages, and he would have invaded Navier's country (and kidnap her) if he hadn't fallen in love with her, he also decieved Navier and wouldn't have told her if Navier hadn't found out he could turn into his bird form, and he's also a terrible father that favors his daughter but ignores his son, because the daughter looks like Navier. But that's all fine, because Heinrey loves Navier and Navier loves him. This entire point of Navier being the "moral compass" on the story is also further proved while reading the extras where Rashta is "good", because she was allowed by the narrative to be on Navier's side, and we have it finally confirmed that Sovieshu was the problem from the start, because SURPRISE, he looks for another mistress. And let's not talk about the fact that Navier is supposed to be awesome and good, but she still doesn't do anything about slavery in her own empire.
I was reading the remarried empress up until right before Navir’s second marriage. Truethfully what turned me off the most about the comic was the commenters. I read a lot of those villainess reincarnation stories, and in order to handle many of the interesting ones you have to be willing to offer characters a certain amount of grace for their terrible actions. So when I was reading, along with everyone in the story but except for the king and her previous slave owner I offered Rashta the same grace. As far as I was concerned Rashta was a stupid person desperately trying to scratch her way the hell she was in. I found it hard to condemn her the way I saw other people doing. If she had a bit more brains she could have been the protagonist of another web novel. I guess many other people either did not or could not offer her that grace. 🤷♀️
Right? Given the same circumstances and a better personality or better character growth she could be a very compelling protagonist. I wish Navier and Rashta had more interaction that wasn’t all about their positions or Soveshu
Hmm, I have been intrigued by the concept of "villainess" stories, but I have been quite turned off by them being essentially just the normal female romance protagonist and villains with a different coat of paint. Basically the "villainess" protagonist is almost always virtuous having done practically nothing wrong with them either being framed, misunderstood or reincarnated into an actual "villainess" character and the "heroine" character is most of the time the person doing the framing, or completely supportive of the "villainess" protagonist. Quite frankly I am sick and tired of the stereotypical "female romance" story. I always looked to the villainess trope in hopes of a flawed protagonist that gets a new chance and has to slowly learn how to be a better person/fix their mistakes of the past. What I got was just more of the same. Do you have any recommendations on villainess stories that have an actual villainess protagonist who doesn't get all their actions excused by the universe? I would very much appreciate someone pointing such a story out to me, because I have long since given up on searching.
The problems with Rashta was the fault of Soveshu. Rashta was a stupid, easily manipulated teenager and if Soveshu had supported his wife, treated her like the empress, and kept with the social expectations, Rashta would have had a very different time and likely not been decapitated. We SHOULD hate Soveshu who expected his wife to behave in a way that was contrary to her expectations an position. Soveshu, fucked up. He failed to understand his wife becuase he was to caught up in his own feelings, Soveshu failed to communicate with Navier (a woman prepared to accept concubines), Soveshu tried punish Navier for maintaining protocol and standard expectations. Soveshu deserves the hate, Rashta deserves pity. She is guilty, but she only became that way BECAUSE Soveshu did a shitty job.
I think while she was personally cornered, her character is like watching someone walk into a glass wall while everyone eggs her on. She doesn’t think for herself & is critically stupid, I mean you’d think she was developmentally stunted. With her backstory I think she might be. I do wish there was a discussion about the pretty privilege she had. Her life in slavery was awful, but she only had scars on her hands compared to other slaves who suffered worse. She is at the bottom of the hierarchy however her beautiful looks elevated her when she was a slave & even as a concubine. However, despite this luck God only can give with one hand.
@@yandereskittyI think this framing is pretty intellectually dishonest, accepting her position as concubine was never the issue. It was expected by everyone including Navier. Had she held her position with tact and grace there would have been no issue. She did not even attempt to try to make the best of her situation, rather she went out of her way to assert herself in inappropriate ways and try to force a disingenuous “sisterly” relationship with Navier which is made her unlikable. Not to mention her tantrums and abuse of staff and animals. Those actions are strongly disliked in reality as well so I’m not sure why everyone is acting confused as to why she gets hate.
Ngl, I lost interest once the author started listing all the reasons why Navier is a good empress while also FAILING to address slavery. Like after the initial premise, nobody ever says anything like slavery is wrong. In this world, slavery seems to be brushed over by the characters, while adultery is treated like the absolute worst thing a character can commit
Yes! And it ends up deluding little girls going through a "im not like other girls phase" into thinking that doing the bare minimum or just choosing to surround yourself with yes-men is girl boss behavior.
TLDR: Not only does Rashta do a lot of horrible things that can't be excused just because of her circumstances, she seems to be hated more unfairly than Sovieshu because she is more prevalent and antagonistic in the story (she does more provoking things in the episodes, making people comment angrily about it more). Sovieshu is hated too, the target of the comments just depends on which character did worse things in that particular episode In my opinion, people don't just hate Rashta because she isn't a girls girl, but because her actions are just so heinous and infuriating 😭If I remember it correctly, she ripped feathers out of a bird to frame Navier and then cut out a maid's tongue for finding the feathers while cleaning, assassinated a fellow slave who trusted her just to see if the assassin was capable, sentenced a maid's father to death as the maid begged at her knees (for telling someone that Rashta was looking for something when asked), and is selfish and insufferable in most episodes Also, people don't hate Rashta a lot more unfairly than Sovieshu, it just depends on what comments you're reading. The amount of hate each character is getting depends on which one did worse things in that specific episode, and that becomes very clear when you are looking at episodes where literally everybody is trashing Sovieshu (like when he said that Rashta might lose her charm after being educated or when he decided to divorce Navier so he could use both women for his own benefit), in which some people are actually saying that they feel bad for Rashta. It just seems like people hate Rashta way more because she does provoking things a lot more than Sovieshu in the episodes, which people will obviously talk about in the comments, and people bring her up in other webtoons because she is a two-faced "innocent" pretty girl character trope from a popular series Also, here are the three top comments from the episode where Sovieshu says he wants to divorce Navier: 2DMenBefore3DBoys: Sovieshu underestimated two women: Navier for thinking she will wait two years for him and Rashta for thinking she will realize she isn’t fit for being empress and will step down after one year. I don’t know if Sovieshu is an idiot or naive, but he just signed up for a ton of misery coming his way. trickivicki: so sovieshit thinks that he can just use both women however he wants to his benefit?? where does he find the audacity em Lou: Interesting that Sovieshu doesn’t want anything to do with a child that isn’t his, but expects Navier to be excited over his love child and accept it as her own. And by interesting, I mean he is an asshole. Most other comments are similar (This happens on a lot of episodes where Sovieshu does something infuriating, whoever is hated more just depends on which comments you're looking at) Edit: Another comment that is very true Midgepo: I genuinely want to know WHAT Soveishu thought was going to happen. Did he think she’d be GRATEFUL after doing something so shitty and psychotic??? After attempting to kill an animal JUST because she’s sending messages to Heinery? Not even being explicitly romantic, meanwhile he’s off gallivanting with Rashta? What is WRONG with him?? I cannot wait to see him suffer and realize he has no one to blame but himself for losing Navier. He’s an awful, manipulative man that only thinks about himself.
You put it perfectly!! that is exactly what I was thinking throughout the video. I haven't read the webtoon in a while but I remember being in the comments and being happy that the people there were thinking critically, they were always trashing her but also were very critical of Soveshu's actions. They didn't take the stance of hating the mistress more than the cheater himself. They called out bad when they saw it regardless of who it was, even when Navier's brother acted cruelly. The way she acted just made her easy to hate, especially the whining and acting dumb.
This was something I was thinking about too when watching the video. I vividly remember people hating on Sovieshu and calling him Sovieshit in the comments and Rashta, Trashta. Because everyone called both of them out also I have read comments about analyzing her character(Rashta’s) of being a victim turned villain. How due to her situations made many just hate her due to her actions her trauma is a reason not an excuse while Sovieshu is just an asshole who is so self centered and narcissistic to the point he thinks using both Navier and Rashta he would gain something? Like, both are shit and it really depends on what happened in each chapter and you will see it from people either hating Sovieshu or Rashta more. Even if it on surface level can be seen one dimensional like I felt bad for Rashta but any pity I had was lost due to her own actions being infuriating or just outright deplorable. Also takes two to tango so as both are two blame for it but for different yet similar reasons.
You ate too hard I didn’t even watch the video but I saw some comments saying people just hate her to hate her and she is complex and has a sad background which doesn’t make you complex we know she is doing this so she can live comfortably also she doesn’t have to be a b word about it which also makes her more unlikable hence the hate she gets and they tend to make her do ridiculously cruel things. So I was confused but I finally I see someone with the same perspective as mine.
I watched this video and I was thinking the same thing. Like are we reading g the same comments. The initial hate towards Sovieahu is way stronger than towards Rashta who everyone just thought was really dim and annoying
Yet heinly does the same things, provoking, torturing people, sewing people's lips, stealing magic, killing poor servants of zimensia dukedom yet people overlook it cause he's a simp for mc
Bro I feel so bad gor Rashta, especially in later chapters, she's not only suffering from post partum, but its also amplified by the fact that the viscount literally showed her a dead baby and told her it was hers (even tho it was alive),,, she's dealing with so much, and she has NO ONE on her side (sometimes deserved,, like the maid situation)
Omg no she was alot more pitiable earlier on she litr keeps ordering murders and tries to SELL people in later chapters. I really feel bad for her whenever the ugly viscount is involved tho
It’s actually healing to read the comments here. Rashta isn’t a perfect victim. She does objectively awful things that perpetuate the abuse she lived through, and feared as a slave. Rashta also only does that because she’s naive, and she was never given a glimmer of sincerity from anyone around her. Everyone is either trying to placate her or use her. I feel the same way about Rashta, as I do about Anthy from RGU (another controversial female character). These are characters who do awful things because they don’t see another way out from it. They’re more scared of what will happen if they don’t submit or act callously or cruelly. That’s not to justify their actions obviously, I always feel like I have to reiterate that, but people are always acting as if Anthy and Rashta aren’t being actively abused and manipulated throughout the ENTIRITY of their stories, and thus they should have perfect cognition of their actions and making good judgements even though for them, they’re literally just trying to make it to the next day. That’s not healthy human fucking thought or behavior !! If you feel like you have to survive even when you’re technically safe, chances are, you’re either currently being abused, or you haven’t been able to work through that yet !!!!! In both of their cases, it’s both !!! It’s so hard to hate either of them, (Rashta in particular for that matter, because Anthy was written with the intent of being a complex character) because you just know that if they were in a different environment, they would have been, and could have been different people. If they weren’t literally pressured 24/7 to fight for their position of being allowed to live without cruelty inflicted on them, they’d be pretty fucking normal actually.
I naturally don’t like Rashta for obvious reasons but I like her as a character (if that makes any sense) because of the depth she has as the story progresses. She was a woman doing everything she had to do to survive- despite those things being quite terrible to Navier. And I can respect her want to protect her child
Honestly, I was part of the Rashta hate for a while, but then I took a step back and realized that it’s overwhelmingly stupid to keep on going about that. Then I also happened to quit that comic due to a gradually decreasing interest in the comic. And looking back, the thing I found most entertaining about that comic was specifically just how stupid the decisions made by Rashta could be, while the romance plot between Navier and Heinrey felt like a side plot. Actually, that might be a part of why I quit that comic now that I think about it, cuz I started reading for the romance, and then it started feeling like “look at this one character who is just the worst with barely any justification for why she is the worst” was the main focus of the story.
I don't like romance between Navier and Heinley (what is his name?). After they got married, it became boring. Now I realize that Heinley was seducing Navier too, which should be considered as bad thing but because he is the ML and the story won't go anywhere if he didn't do that, no one talks about this.
if u take out the remarrying and divorce part this story is like every other bland story. navier who is supposedly infertile magically gets pregnant within the first year of her remarriage(because the bed had mana stones??) and also ends up becoming a powerful ice mage( again because of the mana stone bed???) and has an ex who is still obsessed with her lol . she then uses her ice mage powers to better her empire and gets everyone in the empire on her side. its very cliche and navier is the perfect bland and boring mc i also think her family is little disgusting as well. her brother trying to make rashtha miscarry????? rashtha was a slave she had no way of refusing the king who liked her and eventually became used a pawn by literally everyone (sovieshu for his heir, ergi for some port, her former master and her own dad for money). in the end she was punished even though she actually gave birth to the emperors son (ergi bribed the priest i think its very vague in the novel) and died in a locked room... just so sad. her entire life was tragedy after tragedy. its sad how unempathetic the readers her towards the end i think she was mentally unstable. everyone was betraying her and she didnt know who to trust. she dropped her child because of her severe ptsd (i think she imagined her dead son?) my girl needed therapy
I feel like Navier should’ve been the one to find Rashta in the forest and helped her get a stance in society and it should’ve been a journey of Navier helping Rashta find Rashta’s child and lover
That would require of an author give Navier an actual character, development and agency beyond pity party and nothing else to her character. It would also require to actually acknowledge Rashta as something more (to acknowledge her abuse and how people who did it weren't "cute" or in the right for doing it) than cheap villainess that only exists to torment Navier.
@@donewastingtime7939 apparently the author wrote a side story where instead of sovieshu , navier found her and she actually didn't go down a dark path
Or one where Navier is actually a decent person and abolished slavery from the empire, I mean isn't she the benevolent and kind empress? Surely she could do that
@@anihan8848 whattt bro you know that empresses cant just set rules out of nowhere right ? They have to go through a hell of alot people before being accepted and then it takes another hundred years for people to accept it 😅
As a person, I hate Rashta. She chooses to do awful mean things. As a character, she’s a fantastic characterization of an antagonist born out of her background/upbringing
No fr cause now the amount of hate she is getting is out of hand😭. I left for a couple of months and when I come back I come back to THIS? A massive- not even massive, a GINORMOUS hate train on Rashta where almost everybody in it has no idea why they even hating on her. Like c’mon- if you’re gonna hate on her, AT THE VERY LEASTT have a reason gang. Like even if it’s just one, literally just have one becuz wtf is this hate train on her bro🤦🏾♀️
Am I the only one who truly wished for atleast one female character that was on Rasta's side? Not aiding her in her petty actions but trying to talk her out of the predicament that she was in? Trying to convince her that people (including the emperor) was using her? Like maybe a duchess or a princess or even another empress who could've not only tried to talk her out but even offer her a job or something? And then we can have like, a separate storyline where Rashta's conflicted on whether she should run away or not? (obviously she won't..but it's worth a shot?)
I didn't finish the story, but I do remember that Rashta was desperate, uneducated, petty and most importantly outsider to the court. As a orphan slave girl she was an outsider to society as a whole. Realistically it was very unlikely for her to meet another female character able and willing to genuinely help her. Though I agree, that it would have been very interesting to see a dynamic where Rashta was given opportunity to grow. I would have liked Navir more, if she had been kinder to Rashta.
I feel like that's part of the tragedy of Rashta as a character. I don't think she could have made friends with someone that was telling her things she didn't want to hear, even though it would have saved her.
Rashta actually had one and what she do? She had her tounge cut out and then killed to never be seen again. The maid was very loyal to Rashta but before the maid could do more, Rashta shut her down and surroundEd herself with psychos.
Honestly they could've fixed so much by just making Rashta of low ranking nobility, not high enough to actually be someone of name but high enough to be privileged. It eliminate so much of the weird power imbalances and gaps, and it also make Navier seem better when she wins against Rashta. Because I'm actually not at all impressed when you win a wits match against someone who's an illiterate slave. And if the author wanted to include slavery that bad, just...make Navier be against slavery and actively work to persecute slavers and make Rashta be the one who's keeping slaves. You kill two birds with one stone! Make Rashta someone who's evil from the beginning and make Navier an actually useful empress who's accomplishments aren't just lip service.
i havent caught up with remarried empress in AGES but it always used to rub me the wrong way when everyone DESPISED rastha in the comments because i know for a FACT that a lot of these people would support rashta if she was the main character all her past trauma, all her troubles, they're definitely the making of many mcs in manhwas LIKE??? ROYAL COURT IS NOT A BLACK AND WHITE SITUATION???? of course im mostly angry about the hate from the start so i do accept that she's really complicated!!
I feel like the main issue with webtoon comments in general is that a lot of them are 12-14 year olds with internalised misogyny or a general lack of critical thinking skills beyond what they're told in the story. This means that every female love rival is automatically an evil bitch, the heroine can do no wrong etc etc. It gets really tiresome to engage with after a while. Even with action stories like unOrdinary, where the main character is very obviously doing horrible things and going through an Anakin Skywalker-esque bastardization arc, the commenters are still brainlessly cheering them on.
@@aaliyaramanathan5362 QUITE LITERALLY THIS!!! i can attest because i was also that age when i was in my webtoon phase and MY GOODNESS have my taste changed but even then, it was overwhelming how SO many people jumped on the hate train before the second love interest even DID anything ?? when they were proven to be bad, i was fine with it, but a lot of the time, those comments came BEFORE anything happened mind boggles me, it yet again worries me how young teens are exposed to so many toxic images of relationships like this
I don't think so. I don't believe people would automatically love rashta if she was the main character. Not if she's doing the exact same actions as she has done in the story currently.
@@tiorinaya2104 oh most definitely!! I haven't read till after mid season 2 so I'm not sure of all the evil stuff she does afterwards so I agree!! Although a lot of villainess mamhwas have mcs that act horribly and still have ppll supporting them
The hate really started piling on when she made actively evil decisions like ripping feathers off Heinly and framing it as Navier. Before that, ppl were hating Sovieshu waaaay more. Especially in the novel
I also feel the reason why Rashta is hated on way more than Sovieshu is because of internalized misogyny. There’s always this idea that when a man cheats, he “can’t help it” and the mistress seduced him. It’s pretty common in real life cases for people to automatically attack the mistress or girl the husband/bf cheated on wife/gf with even if the girl might not have been aware that he was taken, instead of attacking the husband/bf who is undoubtedly at fault. And even if the husband/bf is attacked, they are always attacked less
I'm so disgusted at that idea, cheating is inexcusable no matter what the reason. Even if they are forgiven, the trust won't for a very very long time even possibly in lifetime
I blame Soveshu so much more because not only did he drug Navier and treat her like garbage for the rest of their marriage, but he preceeded to cry about her every night after their divorce as if his pregnant wife wasn't right there. He doesn't care about anyone but himself
The misogyny is so much more real than people think it is! People have this idea of women being smart and conniving, so whenever blame needs to be placed, it is more than likely on us. People hold Rashta more accountable because they feel her part in it was more intentional than Sovieshu. Sovieshu is just a "dumb man who chose a bad mistress", and deserves sympathy.
@@gracequeeney3399it is excusable if it's a conveniance marriage. In a fantasy or historical setting, most marriages aren't based in love, so, even are seen as an economical contract. There are so many poems uplifting lovers outside marriage.
I don't really hate rashta its the fact that after she got everything she lost her "husband's" trust . The true villan of this story is sovieshit (aka sovieshu) he treated he casted aside navier even though he was the one who made her infertile (which is not true because rashta cheated on him with duke ergi) like this man treated everyone like shit and even casted aside rashta like why?? You chose her and rashta isn't that bad its what all of us would have done in her situation so yeah sovieshit is shit
Author never thought of that, their desperate to make Navier look perfect so to avoid the fact that one of her main flaws was not viewing slaves rights as necessary they justified that thinking by demonizing the sole slave character instead of just having Navier go through character development.
True cause basically Navier is the one who is running the empire on behalf of Sovieshu so i question does Navier can't implement better laws and rules especially for the victims of slavery? Then we get some spoilers from the comment section that Navier's daughter became the next ruler of Navier's home country but did she abolished slavery???? Probably Not. It kinda reminds me of a russian Empress where People said is a "girlboss" because she overthrew her deadbeat shitty husband, conquer crimea to get warm water but basically serfdom (basically slavery but with white people) that she promised to end doesn't happen. I don't know FML like Navier gives me ick
imo rashta’s greatest downfall was that she was written to be The Other Woman and beyond that her backstory just got used for, occasional sprinklings of flavour with no real concern for how absolutely horrific it is. the way some of it was also framed as. her own fault for being “stupid and naive” is genuinely insane to me. i remember reading it w no prior info and being genuinely shocked to see how hated she was, because she seemed like she had the potential to be a nuanced interesting character and it, never really played out. she kept getting cast as some mean other woman, and i eventually just, gave up on the book entirely bc i simply could not get behind a book where the mc was a rich woman who grew up in wealth and not for one second experienced any sort of financial instability bc even when her husband divorced her she just, got to marry the other richest man on the planet, and the bad guy is, a runaway slave who is getting literally the first lucky break in her entire life, who is being constantly shamed for not understanding court etiquette even though NO ONE offered to teach her and soviewhatshisname literally left her to flounder and look stupid so he could comfort her when she cried and tell her she’s the good one they’re all mean and they just hate you bc you’re prettier than them, whose only company other than gas mclighterson is plotting against her for smth that wasn’t even her fault. like it FELT very weird and like there wasn’t a huge amount of intelligent thought put behind it bc who in their right mind looks at that and goes “yeah this is the perfect novel idea. this is great”
honestly thought the excessive hate was just underlying plain misogyny :/ bc why isnt the husband getting this much heat for being FAR more scummier, and when rashta, while actions questionable, is definently much more of a tragic victim than an evil ireedemable antagonist (which btw, i thought she was with the amount of hate she gets but no shes a victim bro)
I’m saying, most of the hate that she gets is just hate train hate and then theres the small percentage of people who actually hate her for different (and valid) reasons and I’m one of those people. I didn’t not like Rashta because she was the woman on the side, I came to hate her because of the pain shes caused to others and because of the heinous things shes done. Although I understand why she did it I won’t condone because it is straight up wrong. Some of the problems she has and has faced is because of her and not Soveishu (idk how to spell his name😅)
Sovi DID get a lot of heat, in fact I still see some people referring to him as Sovishit. The hate mellowed down because he a) suffered the consequences of his actions b) wisened up to Rashta's manipulation c) had a plan all along and didn't just decide to cheat.
A bigger puzzle is why people adore that Henry guy but hate rashta 🤨, Henry was infact seducing a married woman doing the same thing which rashta gets all hate for
I do firmly believe that if Rashta were the protagonist, she would be adored by the readers, now when I say readers I mostly mean webtoon commenters because they just believe in the FL no matter what they do (Lore olympus, im the queen in this life, princesses jewels, etc..) Rashta already has most of the components necessary to make the average webtoon FL. She's got a traumatizing backstory, a man who "loved" and betrayed her for selfish reasons, a new man who wants to protect her with all his power and in the end she gets a "happy" ending but she would still make a terrible protagonist since in this case she'd probably still commit all her atrocities but would get away with it thanks to the plot armour she'd receive, you'd think Rashta would be universally despised all the same but you would actually be wrong. Case in point: Persephone from Lore olympus, whom i consider Rashta if she had main character plot armor. Both are very childish young girls who catch the eye of older, wealthier, and powerful men who treat them well but also objectify them. They both are not very concerned about the actual wife/girlfriend of their lover (Navier and Minthe), with Rashta willing to tear Navier down to appear as the better option to Sovieshu and Persephone only asking to take it slow instead of stopping the emotional affair all together, even turning Minthe into a plant as well. They are both given a job they are clearly not qualified for and when they marry their powerful lover, they both become drunk on power and have been shown to abuse said power to harm others, and yet Persephone is idolized as a girlboss who can do no wrong and Minthe, who would be the Navier in this situation is villianized by the fans and author as this wicked witch of the west character. What makes Persephone even worse is that unlike Rashta who at least has reasons for being horrible (a life of slavery and abuse) Persephone is a nepo baby, she is the heiress to her mothers company, she already had it all to begin with but was very sheltered which was used to add to her "cinnamon roll" innocence, and everyone still adored her even though she knew she was causing Minthe emotional turmoil but didnt really care that much, it gets worse when everybody who either rightfully calls her out or simply isnt on her and Hades side, they usually get scorned, mutilated, and given horrific punishments. (Unless your Apollo with only community service.) That is exactly what happens when someone goes against Rashta, but at least Rashta gets punished for her deeds, and when someone goes against Navier...it usually doesn't go well, since Navier has all the protagonist privlages, siding with her even if you're a slave owner or a warmonger makes you the good guy. And if you even think about going near the evil woman who isn't on Naviers' side from the get-go and you dont change your mind well, what do you know, you end up dying. In conclusion, it doesn't matter how terrible a person is in these god forsaken fantasy fufillment, as long as they are the FL and attractive, they can do whatever they please.
Rashta is far more interesting than Navier. Navier is your perfect bland MC. Yes she has her own flaws, like she is cold and difficult to connect with people, which lead to her problem with her ex husband. But I don't know, those flaws still make her boring. She is still perfect bland, who in the end can do nothing wrong, everyone likes her and if they don't, they're bad people. I think she is mary sue.
@akarifuyuki9763 The sad part is that Navier does have flaws that could be used to flesh out her character. From what I see, she's pretty tone-deaf and ignorant, such as saying, "I'm not desperate enough to steal from others." When's she wouldn't need to because she's the empress. But instead of the narrative framing this as Navier being ignorant and having her go through character development, it's portrayed as a girl boss one liner.
@@lilithdarkheart4716 Yes. She is passive character. She gets everything on silver plate. Everyone does things for her. She and Rashta are polar opposite and the example of good and bad in the story.
Because she's a homewrecker, normal readers are against NTR. And second she's annoying and childish compared to FL so the readers felt unfair on why the husband prefer her, and third is she keeps getting worse and worse over time, shutting down almost all sympathy from some readers and make the opinions from most readers that already hate her, become valid and making the FL shine brighter in comparison to her. The lack of reading comprehension is making most readers unaware of the real villain of the story and realizing how Rashta is the real victim all along, even she turned evil later mostly due to other characters and the author influenced her further. Plus the internalized misogyny plays the most part on why sovieshu still has a number of fans despite all the shenanigans he did, while rashta is the fans' scapegoat in the series while the most evil one is actually men like sovieshu, viscount lotteshu, duke ergi and even henrey. But somehow all of them got sidelined or even ignored as most fans prefer to hate rashta instead
@gracequeeney3399 wait. The trashy king has a fan???? Most of the comments that I saw (back when I was reading it but it got boring and Rashta was all evil at thay point) was hating both of them equally and saying how they're perfect for each other I've never seen a comment supporting the king and mostly the hate is on rashta since she's more active in being the antagonist and she got more desperate as time goes by to the point the first rashta has no trace of her in the current one
People hate her because of how she treated navier. And the fact that she's a mistress and people in general just don't like Mistresses or cheaters in general. And yes we see her backstory and the fact she was a slave. None of that is good but at the end of the day she's still acting like this. Even though navier isn't even in the picture anymore. She got what she wanted. She's the empress and yet it hasn't made her happy because her husband is still in love with his ex-wife
It honestly just seems like an incredibly common sentiment I see a lot: when a man cheats, it's entirely the mistress's fault for "seducing him" even though the man also made the concious decision to cheat. It's a very misogynist view of the situation, and I'm sure this is the reason people hate Rashta so much. They believe it is entirely her fault despite the cheating being entirely mutual.
@@blepblep7245Rashta does not get hate for just being the "other woman". She gets hate, at first, for purposefully and continuously going out of her way to antagonize Navier. If Rashta was just living her best life, most everyone would just look at Sovieshu. But Rashta's insistence on asserting herself to Navier's face, despite Navier trying to avoid her, and later her crimes against her fellow lower-class citizens and slaves is why she is hated. Namely her killing them, blackmailing them etc.
@@emoneestep this, rashta is cruel and also trampling on other people's chances even when she theoretically has won. Navier left, she gave it to Rashta and what rashta did after that? become even more cruel and only care about herself. She was never a good person when she got the chance to make it right. Also people keep saying, why sovietsu didn't get much hate, it because no one likes him to even have the discussion like rashta. No one even care of him, he is dead on arrival, everybody has written him off. Rashta also like you said, she pokes and continue to find way to make navier and other character miserable when she can just leave them alone. She even cruel to people who is a lowborn. If people say that power reveal their true color, rastha is that, she was never a good person and people suddenly forget that because "she was suffered" in the past.
Yeah you are right but we are also hating on him as well for being ungrateful and cheating on our queen I meant empress and then trying to forbeden her froming going to the new empire like bruh trash GET OVER IT AND GET A LIFE I hate him so much the only thing I liked about him was that he was willing to make his "daughter" the empress which was not comonen in sociaty for only a women to rule an emper without getting married he was a good father but NOT A GOOD HUSBAND AND EMPEROR
despite the initial hate for Rashta (it takes a very strong moral fiber to not hate the mistress of your husband), Navier only pities her right now because she ultimatly knows this is all Sovieshu's fault. He's the one that brought Rashta to the palace, he's the one that snubbed Navier in favor to another woman, he took advantage of an already vulnerable girl and used her over and over again. Even when she was pregnant with his child, he only saw an incubator for a heir when he tought his wife couldn't give him one. It's very easy to hate the other woman and gloss over the cheating husband's mistakes. I love the remarried empress, cause both Navier and Heinrey have flaws and morally grey moments, as well of other members of "team navier". And despite all of that tragedy in her life, Rashta still wants to reach the top, no mather the cost or people she stomps on her way, and that's exactly the reason she will fail and lose.
i've noticed more recent episodes are showing how pathetic and abusive sovieshu is and it makes me so happy. he's the real villain of the story, not rashta
something i can relate, thats why i love her. A lot of the things she does, i relate (not where she steal her husband) i feel sorry for her, because she's been through so much. It sucks people don't see how slavery affected her.
Rashta, is a villain you kinda root for, I find her more interesting then the MC’s at times. Rashta brings more to the table the more we read. Most of her actions are unbeatable. . . At times. It’s just sad that on webtoon when ppl have these conversations about Rashta, instead of having a discussion it just turns into an argument.
@@lizandraoliveira8974she kinda did a what if story where rashta turn back time while still retaining her memories and guess what? Sovieshu in that timeline finding another concubine to impregnate with, cuz rashta refuses to be his concubine and choose to work as navier's maid instead
I think the biggest tragedy of Rashta is that she has no safety net when her trashy husband leaves her for the main character. Her life constantly hangs in the balance and the second he leaves her She'll be back to being poor and alone. It kind of reminds me of men who marry younger women, squeeze out babies, don't let them work, and then leave them for someone else.
see, if the author is smart, she makes rashta at least the side character. let's imagine a naive concubine who befriend the queen and found out the king is awful and tries to warn the queen but nobody trust her because her low status and she's only a concubine. the only person who trust her is the queen, and it saves queen's life. the queen or whoever the male lead, make the plan to overthrown the king. and to make shit spicier, the concubine is dying after protecting the queen, but they safe the baby. so the queen adopt the baby. now that they manage to overthrown the king, they can abolish enslavement. and people cannot even complain due how the story of a slave who save the queen life.
She unironically is. Every other character is as interesting as my white wall in my room, and I'm doing a disservice to my room's wall by saying this. You have douche emperor whose sole purpose is tormenting his wife/ex because he is insecure that she is better than him (a man). You have female lead who only exists so you feel sorry for her, with the personality of cardboard cutout beyond that. You have her new creepy- I mean "sweet" lover/future husband who you only see as "good" because he isn't her ex. Even though he is trash of his own (but ignore it - don't question it). The rest is mostly just team Navier or obstacles that plot demands so Navier can be "woe is me" some more.
Something people liked about the story that I remember is that Navier didn’t have to connect with or sympathize Rashta for the sake of ‘girlhood’. But why not just… let that be the message? Rashta didn’t need to be a villain to justify Navier simply not wanting to associate with her. Rashta being secretly petty and mean is pointless
This is the "perfect victim" mentality. Since Rashta is not "fragile" and does not act like a victim, its normalised to ignore that she is also a victim.
@@sakuraxworld4566no but the constant hate train on her shows how biased everyone is against her even when her actions are understandable or context appropriate, she’s an antagonist for a reason, but the hate she has garnered is completely over proportional to the decisions she has taken
Im so glad she mentioned she hated Sovieshu more than Rashta! I dislike her but I absolutely HATE Sovieshu! He's such and idiotic narcissist! Everyone just focuses more on Rashta cuz she's overdramatic...🫣
Sovieshu isn't narcissist he's entitled. Narcissists don't act like that and never admits their wrong doing let alone regretting things which Sovieshu did. Using the word narcissism so casually dilutes the term.
I've both pittied Rashta and hated her actions. Like I contextualize she's doing what she's doing to better her situation and shovishu is 100% the real villain. And everything bad that happens to him/ her are the results of his own actions. It's just a shame Rashta got dragged along. She would have done better with someone else. But! We wouldn't have a comic then.
Before her self-imposed (and trauma-driven) downfall, Rashta was ultimately the main victim of the story. While Navier is on top of this absolutely morally bankrupt system actually benefiting from slavery, Rashta is just trying to survive and thrive in the only way she knows off. But on the other hand, how DARE SHE be annoying?!
I never hated Rashta, she was uneducated in politics and how the nobility worked, she was obviously tramatized which made her pretty bad at judging people's characters, she is mentally like a child with outbursts because she didn't have much of a life, she didn't get to experience things in a health manner. She knew she got things when she outbursts or cried. Didn't help when the Empror took her in without easing her into a life and setting boundaries for her and his late empress. I hated him more for the way he spoiled her and encouraged her to act more like a child and every outburst she had against the very people he is ruling. He had many chances to reassure her and to educated and set boundaries and tell her his expectation. But instead he expected both women to read his mind with all his planning he did in secret and is shocked when things don't go his way. He continues to not to speak to Rashta properly wanting her to open up to him first... but remember she is like a toddler, less understanding why they are in the wrong unless you tell them why and how to correct the issues. Or they do know what is wrong but needs to be taught how they could have handled it differently. The emperor himself should be known as a good leader and guide others and so much more. But he was more selfish than anyone in this story. Do I hate him? No I think he was just stupid and selfish. But characters with their flaws and to make so many hate the character is amazing to me. To have people say "no I hate this person! I wish I could delete them." But that same viewer comes back time and time again excites me. You may hate this character, but this character was meant to make you feel this way. That is why I don't hate Rashta, she was meant to make you feel riled up. But dislike the emperor instead since it seems his actions are more overlooked and he is supposed to be the more educated one and better understanding. But he failed Rashta and in guiding her to a better result.
If i were a slave, i would damn well cling to the person basically giving me a chance to survive and live a somewhat happy life. Rashta is trying to survive thus she of course uses her looks to get someone to provide for her.
Yeah that much was enough , she could use that affection to get an education and the financial help to create a business of her own. But she was a copycat and even a gaslighter trying to paint Navier as a vile and jealous woman that would attack her while in fact that was never the case . Navier just ignored her.
@@marcoboscarol2420 she was already prone to scheming so she could use Sovieshit's affection to get more knowledge (about the way the kingdom worked ,read , businesses). What i mean is that she could use her privileges to her advantage rather than plotting the downfall of another woman ,we must remember , that didn't do her any harm . The only thing Navier did was ignore her and given the circumstances, she was legitimate to do so. That was the "classiest" thing to do she didn't lash out on her "rival" as Rashta was trying to picture her . She made POOR choices when she could have improved her life with the subtle power she acquired. To sum it up , if she used the energy to hurt Navier into building something for herself , she would have been better off (with or without Sovieshit). I think some Rashta fans forget or want to forget her behavior with her servants and her own people when she had the opportunity to make some changes. In both cases , she hurted the servants treating them like "less than" . And she didn't even try to improve the life of the people that were in the sole situation as her old self. Was she obligated to do all of that , to act like that ? NO She chose the evil path and that's exactly why people don't like her . That's not that complicated
@@sakuraxworld4566and navsty doesn't anything abolish slavery. And she defend her genocides husband, rape grooming child ersghit and abuse liked levetti. Cruel your navsty
I still am irked by Trashta, especially in later chapters. But you also have to take a closer look at Lebetti because in later chapters, you see she gives rockstar fangirl levels to Navier. Hearing Lebetti talk of the Empress' kindness, compassion, overall awesomeness- It's no wonder Rashta uad a skewed idea of Navier and it starts the copycat spiral.
Remember people getting mad at me for saying i didn't care that a slave girl was the mitress to a king and ruining the main characters happinesses. They attacked me for 4 days and 4 nights.
So we forgot that rashta constantly tried to frame navier of hurting her, the people she ordered kill, her treatment of everlie, throwing her baby down, deceiving her "adoptive parents." It isn't that crazy for people dislike, but it is the hatred is very OVERINFLATED
If you compare Rashta's actions to Sovieshu's actions, the difference is sky high. Rashta's attempt of framing Navier is not the same with Sovieshu attempting to break Navier's heart, meanwhile toying around with Rashta's heart and feelings. What Sovieshu had was never love and it shows through his actions.
Oh its great that you're sponsered now matty! I dont hate rashta personally as i've only read the novel and she was a complicated person where i could see her side of the story and why she did what she did even if it wasnt great i did understand her. So i dont understand why she has gotten so much hate in the manwha, very few who have read the novel hates her🤷♀️
I was so bamboozeled why everyones rage in the webtoon was directed at rashta and not sovieshu despite him being the one to take in a mistress and disregard her feelings?
That's the sad reality of webtoon, so much sexism and internalized misogyny. She's a great side villain and very interesting character wise, but she get extreme hate so unnecessarily for being an evil woman in the story despite the men are actually the real villain all along.
You know Rashta reminds me of Sakura from Naruto. She was overhated due to being childish in front of Naruto and a crybaby in front of Sasuke. Yet Hinata was overrated and worshipped to the extreme like Navier was, due to being "supportive and helpful" and was loyal to Naruto like Navier was with Sovieshu. But obviously, the only reason Sakura was hated and became worse just like Rashta, was because she was the weaker being. They both fell in love with a man that took advantage of them ( Sasuke and Sovieshit), they have been absent and dismissive towards them, even when they got pregnant because they had zero interest in them. And I used to hate them too, but in the end I just felt really bad for both of them, because they were actual victims. They had so many inferiority complexes, with Rashta living in the shadow of Navier and Sakura living under the shadow of Hinata. And the fans still made Rashta's character similar to Sakura's character an irredemable monster that was only worth despised for existing.
Nail on the god damn head. Rashta is a tragic and fascinating character who's only crime is internalized misogyny. edit: also like to add that Heinrey is a far bigger gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss than Rashta could ever be and I'm sick of his UWU shtick around Navier!
Rashta was always an interesting and complex character to me because like??? She absolutely has the typical tragic female lead backstory and motivation? She’s been through a lot and (at least near the beginning) her main motivation is to survive and keep herself and her baby safe. I felt super bad for her!! She isn’t a perfect person, she isn’t the smartest or strongest, and she doesn’t always know how to handle the things thrown at her, but to me that was what made her human. Seeing her so completely despised was really jarring, especially when sovieshu seems to not receive half of the vitriol thrown at Rashta. So many people want complex female characters, but the second they aren’t the protagonist/love interest girlbossing their way through the plot they’re ripped apart without hesitation.
I wouldn't say I hate her, but do I strongly dislike her? Absolutely, yes. She is a victim of her circumstances and I pity her a lot, the amount of trauma she went through is insane. She was used by men all her life and is getting no help, not even from Sovieshu. That being said, I have a lot of mixed feelings about her. Just like Navier, she cant escape her position. But Navier even tried to be the bigger person when she got divorced, lending help to her before leaving instead of hating on her or creating a fuss. Rashta does nothing to retribute herself. She acts petty towards Navier, instigates conflicts, punishes people unfairly - all for her own gain and even goes on to instigate more than one m*rder. She could have been better prepared for her position, but Sovieshu (who I deem responsible for that, as a husband and a ruler) does nothing to help her, only cleaning up after her without communicating with her. As it stands, she never had a chance to become a good empress and her downfall is inevitable.
These are exactly my thoughts on Rashta. She doesn't deserve the amount of unbridled hate that she gets, but she's still not a good person. And her stupid actions just makes it all the more frustrating.
@@thelemurofmadagascar9183her stupid actions are stemmed from trust issues and inferiority complex that she had from her traumas that had been accumulated for years. The only reason why sovieshu never really prepare her for her empress position and only cleaned her mess quietly without ever reprimanded her or discipline her is because of sovieshu solely uses her for bearing his child and planned to discard her after his child is born, so he can remarry with navier without ever get worried about successor. Rashta being so drunk on power as the empress without proper education or at least moral compass only smoothing sovieshu's plan. Plus she's been egging on by duke ergi and lotteshu, unaware that she's being manipulated by them. Her trust issues and her obsession in seeking external validation and happiness for herself are the biggest reason for her inevitable downfall.
@@gracequeeney3399 And yet there are a lot of stupid decisions that she made that had nothing to do with her trust issues or inferiority complex. She was just plain dumb. No matter how long she was in the palace for, she didn't gain any knowledge or intelligence. She just kept making one bad decision after another, even putting morals aside. It's not just her though, I notice a lot of authors make their villain characters stupid, probably because it's too much work to make them intelligent.
The frightening reality of slavery is that you truly don't have a choice on how you live. Realistically, Rashta absolutely would've been a tragic mc constantly being used and taken advantage of by every person in power around her. Especially by Sovieshu. (I do not believe it's ethical to have romance with a slave) Sovieshu is not held a accountable enough. Everyone holds the "mistress" acountable but not the husband that keeps getting with the same slave. 27:33 Death note reference!!
Thank you so much. For all the while I was reading the webtoon (i haven't finished it), I could'nt help but to be midly annoyed at Rashta, OUTRAGED at Sovieshit's appearance, and not understanding the violent hatred toward Rashta. I knew she was mean, petty, annoying and REALLY STUPID; but that wasn't enough for me to ACTUALLY hate her. So thank you for your 'unpopular opinion' 🤗😄
YES back when I was a regular Webtoon reader I always found her such an interesting and often tragic, desperate character and it really rubbed me the wrong way how the commenters viewed her - it seemed that Navier got away with manipulations and digs that Rashta would get viciously criticised for - not to mention not one reader seemed willing to dissect the system of institutionalised slavery and classism which Navier and the other nobles certainly adhered to, if not endorsed... It feels like a kind of protagonist bias where people are unwilling to analyse the actions of the protagonist through a critical lens, and anyone who gets in the way of the protagonist, no matter their motivations or circumstances, is automatically a terrible person.
I don't think it takes a degree in rocket surgery to figure out the reason why Rashta's hate is so much louder than Sovieshu's is because she's a woman, not necessarily that she's not a girl's girl. If she was one she'd still be hated. She's a woman and she stands as the derision between what the story frames as the Truth (the relationship between Sovieshu and Navier) and the reality that no one in this fucking story knows what the word communication is. If it was a man-- not even in a relationship with Sovieshu, just a dude who stood to gain from their divorce-- people would be flocking to him as a masterclass villain.
100% it's this. She made the fatal mistake of being a woman "stealing another woman's man." I would totally become a concubine to a handsome caring man if I was in slavery and exposed to every element, man made and nature made, if it meant I could be safe from those things. Yeah, the hate she gets most be carried over from the original novel.
I personally the Rashita hate is forced another reason why people probably hate her is the mental reflex to be influenced by other’s opinions and more so she was put as a main antagonist which obviously gives Soveishu breathing space from those who don’t observe in detail 🤷🏾♀️
Rashta is just one instance of apparent classism in Webtoon creators... Over and over again I see key antagonists from common or poor backgrounds who have moved upward in society one way or another, when the protagonist is nobility (or in the case of The Golden Spoon, the 'good guy' foil to the morally questionable protagonist). It's more than a little gross.
OMG YES when I first read remarried empress I thought to myself "Her actions are bad but I can see why she does those things" I quttied after like 10th ep but OMG TY
I think the problem in the remarried empress is... Navier is a Mary sue. And every character that likes Navier can be a slave owner, a wannabe child murderer, or tyrant who commits war crimes, and they will still be in the right, and anyone who is against Navier can be a literal helpless slave, and they will always be in the wrong.
She is a girl's girl and has the other traits that make her the perfect wife for Sovieshu. Rashta was never a girl's girl and she was made to be the most hated villain, because of her flaws but if kept in mind that she was essentialy also taken advantage of by Sovieshu, she was a tragic character similarly like Navier was but not the same as her.
The real Trashta was the commenters all along...
maybe the real trashta is the friends we made along the way
@@milkiistvr6149Man, that hit deep-
@@milkiistvr6149eye opening🙇🏻♀️
I don't think the hatred towards rashtra is totally wrong. I mean look at the audience young girls to middle age woman, from probably heterosexual. Probably from a conservative immigrant (a lot of immigrants look down on divorce and homeweckers.)family. Who will marry men, If my husband who I was with for a long time cheated on my or brought another woman home even if she was from a poor background. I would still be mad. I wouldn't be a girls girl to the girl and I wouldn't feel bad for her situation. Sovishshit is a bad person, however he was still Navier husband who she had a connection to. Rashtra is some random girl. Also it may be people projecting their situation's onto rashtra, as there are a lot of rashtras in the real world. (Home-weckers). I am a Rastra hater and I will die on that hill, Karma is real and she is facing it.
@@A-girl-named-olive yea its not totally wrong because Rashta is a bad person but the hate towards her outshines any other narrative in which we are dealing with antagonists, she is hateable but the hate is out of proportion.
rashta is horrible but i never understood why people hate on her so much more than soveshu the "HUSBAND" WHO TOOK IN A CONCUBINE IN THE FIRST PLACE...
He gets a ton of hate too, but he just does less directly antagonistic in the manga than Rashta.
ETA: And its made clear taking in a concubine is common in their world iirc
FR THO!It’s his fault this whole thing happened
Cause he is a man.... Simple as that, "oh but theres's plenty of male characters who are hated" sure, but lets be honest its never on the same level, using other comic as an example. Many people would hate Minthe from LO more than Apollo, they might hate him, but they would despise her
@@VaellinTheBard no I still hate him even more than rashta as he doesn't seem to care about her, the queen more much anyone else. He really took in the false belief that he's the only one to get hurt and no one else has personal motivations.
Rashta was intentionally raised with no education, false information and people using people to get a head. She's desperate and being used. He's greedy for more though he has most everything
@@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel thats you. I was talking about the readers in general. Sovieshu is hated, but Rashta gets the spotlight and is directly antagonistic more than Sovieshu, which is why people comment on their hatred of her more than Sovieshu. But both have demeaning nicknames.
People need to be hating more on the slave OWNERS. Has everyone forgotten lebetti is also a slave owner (in the family sense).
YOU’RE SO RIGHT OMG. I see people LOVING her when OMG??? SHE’S SO CLASSIST IT’S INSANE. People hated Rashta for talking back to her that one time they were outside, but let’s be real here, they’re both bad people. Rashta was pretty much just molded by her circumstances.
@@sher-bear2996 they only like lebetti because she sucks up to the main character
YOURE SO REAL FOR THIS EVERYONE LOVES HER BCS SHE'S WITH NAVIER BUT ???? EXCUSE ME???? WHY??????
Fr like why was the narration trying to make me feel bad for the girl that abused her SLAVE, while pretending that said slave is the real villain?? The Remarried Empress has some of the most dishonest narratives I've ever seen, it's utterly bonkers.
Thank God I was waiting for someone to bring this up. Lebetti is always portrayed as this cute girl who idolizes Navier and despises Rashta for being a slave to begin with but hey! She can be used as a self insert for the readers so it's fine.
Lets not forget Alan, his relationship with Rashta was very teacher-student like where he had all the power over her as one of her masters, so essentially he 🍇ed Rashta because yes, even if she did say "yes" she doesn't have the right to say no. Instead the fandom praises him to high hell for being a good dad.
At first, I hated Rashta ngl. Now, I just pity her. Stuck in a loveless marriage with a man whose pining after his ex, she's got no friends, and is being used by everyone around her. It's sad.
Exactly this, I started off hating her then kinda just began to pity her and have settled on a pitying dislike. Some of her added cruelty towards the middle/end is really unnecessary, she should have been the unfortunate villian whose only evil by circumstance and what others have made her do. I hate that the author saw all the hate and just have in to the mob with her character. I think it would have been a lot better to have her karma cash in at the end and her have a mild redemption after losing a lot and actually trying to redeem herself towards the (I'm assuming here) eventually broken empire.
@@TheFrogsMadeMeGay exactly. All of this.
Like, do I think she deserves a happy ending? No, but her baby daddy does. He deserves a woman who loves him and his children just as much. I do think Rashta deserves a lukewarm ending though.
@@Brit626 i love how the main comment under this one explains it much better than I could, she was her baby daddy's slave, she had 0 consent to fuck that man, she ran away to the emperor because she could at least gain some of her own power
she deserved a happy ending, and truthfully? she might've literally been the only one
considering fuckhead empress choses of all people a man who wants to go to war with her nation, not caring about all the people in situations identical to rashta's who will be brutally slaughtered in event of a war, because y'know, mandatory conscriptions
@@townjester 0 consent? Are you just choosing to ommit facts to suit a narrative of Rashta being a complete victim?
Rashta knows how to suck up to people and get their attention, it was mentioned that she seduced the male staff the duke's mansion not to mention the one-eyed dude who lost everything when he helped her escape. If the baby daddy really forced her into it, the baby shouldnt be even alive to avoid any rumors whatsoever. Rashta was also shown to know what she's doing to the empress and emperor's relationship but continues to do so.
Its medieval politics, if Sovieshu's country manages to gain a successful mage army division, Heinry's own people are screwed. Navier cares about the commoners it was even a plot point where Navier gave money to Rashta to continue her charity work with money from Navier's own pocket instead of asking the palace. She literally spent her whole life working as an empress even her childhood was spent on kaing sure she's going to be a great one. Suddenly on illeterate, talentless hack takes it away from her? Youre acting like sheknee about the plot against mages when she went with Heinry
@@Brit626 To me it was the actual opposite. The earliest in the plot she was legitimately bubbly and actually fine with sharing Souvesh*t with Navier and calling her sister seemed completely without malice. I pitied her for how much she didn’t know what she was getting into. But then she tried to wreck Duchess Tuania with a hairbrained plan to get the spotlight off herself and little by little I stopped feeling sorry for her. And the moment she starts terrorizing her maids for no reason just set it in stone for me.
The story really is a fairytale flipped on its head:
-A beautiful, kind, and naive peasant girl (whose foolishness makes her a villain)
-The cold and calculating jilted queen (who loves her people and wants the best for everyone)
-The king who finds the poor girl in the woods and gives up everything to be with her (including his wife and his reputation)
- and a brave, handsome prince from a far away land (who is only interested in a married woman)
never thought about how weird for not one but two princes be very in-love with a women who is already married and this people seem to be circling waiting for them to break up to get with the queen
it's all just a big mathematical equation where looking at the parenthesis is pretty important.
isn't that how villlainess genre are? that!s the norm for the villanness genre, even non isekai ones
Rashta couldn’t even consent to having her two babies because she was literally a slave. She was being petty and vindictive towards lebetti because that was her abusive master. She’s such a sad character. She has no one to help her because everybody wants to use her.
nah, she's not a saint. I started hating her when she killed the person that helped her escape slavery. the man was already unhealthy and living in a dump. And he didnt even ask her to help him but she killed him to cover up her past. then there was a time she framed her maid for the petty thing with the bird she did. She was in the maids position not that long ago but she still got her killed. And even the way she treats her maids speaks volumes. She is either mean, disrespectfull or outright abusive. she may have been a victim but she is also an abuser.
@@malbertha1989smh, I feel that the author wrote her to be unlikable- because they realized that if webtoon users use more than two brain cells to think it over the entire story-they realized that the other characters are quite shitty- so uh yea- they tryna make Rashta slightly worse than the others 😭
@@happysocialmoth1197 idk if this was sarcastic but it was mentioned in the video that this was a novel first
She's a bad person, dont try to justify her awfulness cause she has a sad backstory.Rashta was a sad slave girl cause obedience was her only option, she tried to woo a guy she only liked cause she thought he will pull her into nobility. The only thing being in the palace gave her was autonomy, she did all the horrible things else herself.
@@happysocialmoth1197 idk maybe, ive seen some authors change the color palette of the ex lover so that she doesnt look more pretty than the main girl. [Cough i'll be matriarch in this life cough] But i just stated why i dont like her. She comes from a horrible background yet shes cruel to people who are living the life she escaped.
Imma say one thing i also commented on webtoon. THE WAY Soveshu romanticizes Rashtas childish behavior and missing the way Navier was when they were children honestly feels pretty suspicious
Yeah he’s very Mr. Peanut butter from bojack where he loves youth and wants women to maintain naivety and has a very specific way he wants his wife to act. He doesn’t like a woman who doesn’t need him. And navier might not have loved him romantically but she was very much his faithful companion but he wanted desire from her I think.
@@5autumndream The thing about Navier though.... She was fully ready to accept a royal concubine. He could have had his lovers and his companion, IF he had actually kept with the standards for behavior.
@@mariebaldwin9057 oh yeah true. And that angered him even more cause he wanted desire from her right? I might be misremembering
@@5autumndream You're dead on. He wanted her to be jealous, but Navier wasn't jealous in the least. Navier was raised to do/think/behave a certain way, a lowly concubine isn't something for her to be jealous of.
@mariebaldwin9057 YES THIS, Navier was ok that he took in a mistress after all it is the norm for emperors but Soveishu kept PUSHING. No joke, he pushed and crossed way too many boundaries to the point where he broke Navier and destroyed her sense of worth and love. Soveishu is the absolute WORST.
Sovieshu was the real bad one. He did all this to Navier.
Rashta became a horrible person. She was a naive girl thrown into high society.
Sovieshu spoiled her so she thought she could get away with everything.
Rashta was just a victim too.
NONONONO she's NOT a victim lets not forget that she attempted to KILL people or cut a person's TONGUE off!!! Let's not forget the horrible things she did nobody told her she could he like that.
@@lazylua9526 being a victim and being a criminal are not mutually exclusive. Bad things can happen to you which makes you do bad things.
Rashta is Indeed an abuser but she became an abuser because of Sovieshu.
She's still an abuser but she is Sovieshu's victim
@@lazylua9526
To be fair, she does go insane from paranoia over the course of the story as it becomes increasingly obvious that she isn't cut out for what she got herself into. Still doesn't justify much of what she's done to others nonetheless.
@@lazylua9526 someone can both be a victim and a perpetrator
She didnt necessarily became bad as a result of it, she was previously in a position where there was no other way to be aside from obedient but now that she was given autonomy, she abused the hell out of it.
Rashta is a flawed character but everyone seems to overlook her trauma of being a slave, her master's son impregnating her, promising better life and then taking away and killing the baby. No wonder she is obsessive and absolutely insecure in her position, she needed to survive while being at the very bottom of society and I can't blame her for that. I understand her and I am sad witnessing her descent to madness from always fearing for her and her child's safety, while her husband turns on her.
I used to write those things in webtoon comments, I'm happy someone had similar thoughts in the sea of unreasonable hate smelling of misogyny 💕
I read in my early teens I need to reread because from this info it’s giving Les miserables
I have a lot of sympathy for Rashta, but some of her actions just can't be justified. Not in the slightest.
Rashta always played dumb and was always selfish. Navia was cold but even she had some sympathy for Rashta so she overlooked some of the things Rashta and the emperor did.
Rashta was never a child. She knew that being a mistress, having sexual and romantic relations with the emperor who already had a wife, did not make them 'sisters'. She addressed her improperly from the very beginning.
It's harsh but Rashta acknowledged herself that this was the 'punishment' for 'not knowing her place.'
I think the issue was when Rashta's selfishness extended from herself to affecting the empire. Navia was a selfless empress through and through. Yes, she has her flaws and can be a terrible person. And she's quite a boring character. But no one makes my blood boil like Rashta.
There was no need to do a lot of the things she did. I know she was scared, untrusting, and traumatised. But when it comes to being a leader of an empire, she only thought about herself and not the implications of what would happen to people like herself.
She never thought of slaves like herself. Navia didn't either, but how can she blame Navia for something she couldn't even do when she was a slave?
She wanted to be happy. I understand that. But when you're a leader of an empire certain behaviours cannot be justified or overlooked. The emperor was objectively a bad person. So is Navia. But they were both good leaders despite it. That made them tolerable.
Rashta was flawed... and she was ignorant to it. Ignorance and incompetence are the most annoying traits people can have especially since all it does is hurt others... and yourself.
No, they are not ignoring it, you are infantilizing an adult woman. I'm really sick of people go "Oh but they were abused!" as an excuse. I'm a victim of abuse too and I have f@cking autonomy. Your mindset of excusing people's bad behavior CREATES MORE ABUSERS! Ironically Rashta is an example of this because no one is holding her accountable so she just keeps doing horrible things and justifying it. All abusers have a justification, often times real ones, but letting them off because of them really just makes you their next victim.
@onba7726 thank you... We need to stop infantalizing abuse victims. I literally learned to stop being a victim in therapy and take control of my life instead of letting my past abuse control me.
That kind of thinking also leads to poor storytelling too because writers will then use that as an excuse for poor behavior. Because they had "trauma" so of course that's why they're are bad and it leads to readers being expected to just forgive or dismiss bad behavior
I think the reason that she was so hated is because when this comic came out she was the first white lotus character on the platform. When I first read the comic, part of the reason I (and many others) where intrigued was this was the first time I had seen a protagonist come from a privileged background rather than the typical tragic poor and powerless background. The interesting part of this comic was that the typical spin on protagonist and antagonist was reversed and the trials we saw each character face was fresh. If this comic came out now I would think it was boring or chicle, but at the time it was something new, I think that made Rashta so iconic and memorable as a villain.
"We need more complex female characters!" Yall can't even handle her
EXACTLY
Usually, I hate that quote, but in this case it applies.
NAH SHIT THIS IS REAL!!
Yet they don't have an issue with the comic with the woman literally collecting men like objects and owning them like property, some who are characters of color.
@@izayoi2006Been happening to women in media forever. I agree its not right either way. Its really bad in smutty or badly written webtoons
“I don’t hate [CHARACTER], I hate who wrote this.” is absolutely my new motto
That is so true.
Me to every author who conspicuously put NTR:
I know right. Remarried empress is so horrible, I hate every character. Well, that's a lie, I like them but hate how they were executed.
Rashta was sympathetic but she's so selfish and ignorant that I wish she'd go through her trauma all over again. She was a slave and went through so much but we've never seen her do anything to help the commoners like herself. Yet she criticises Navia? Please, you're both bad, but at least Navia was good at ruling the empire. Navia was taking the sides of slave owners and was extremely hypocritical in disliking Rashta but also flirting with Heinry.
Rashta also 'didn't know her place', quote from the comic. I'm sorry but no matter what, as a mistress, why the fuck are you calling the wife you've insulted just by existing your 'sister' and addressing her so informally? Like, I know you're a commoner, but you can't be that dumb. Navia could have literally killed her... and there was also no reason to keep trying to humiliate Navia. There was also no reason to dip her hands in blood and put the empire at risk with her unstable rule as an empress.
Navia was horrible and selfish, but Rashta isn't any better. A sympathetic backstory isn't enough to make you likeable.
The webtoon 'your throne' did this trope way better.
@zainabmusa6234 BROTHER I AGREE. damn got air out of your chest there huh?
@callmenameless9970 Lmfao yeah. I felt the migraine I had literally just gone away once I finished typing. If I could speak, the rambling would literally never end. I always have too much to say about these things since people love to start up discourse and then do a 180 and start a discourse on the original discourse.
Also nobody calls out heinly for doing far worse things than her. It's just pure misogyny. Some antis even admitted that they wouldn't care if Rashta was a Navier simp. This fandom suffers from "one good woman"/MC syndrome. Some even started defending the slavery. Those Rashta antis are deranged sometimes. Heinly, Kaufman, Kosair, Egi did so many terrible and creepy things, yet only her gets called out. It's always the woman that gets hatred. Male characters could be creepy, murderers they're forgiven but women can breathe wrong she'll be branded as the worst character.
I think we've been reading different webtoons, because I find those all the time
@@Vampire_cat13 you find what? Do you see Kaufman getting hatred for drugging people like Krista did? Or Kosair getting hatred for wanting to abort Rashta's baby or cheating on his fiancee? Webtoon praises those men cause they support Navier
You made a very good point.I absolutely agree that misogyny is so rampant in this story. Literally all of the male characters here have committed one atrocity or another but they don't get called out for it at all meanwhile one woman who is repeatedly taken advantage of and repeatedly thrown under the bus by all the men in her life takes the fall, is labelled a villain and all the misdirected hatred that should be projected towards these horrible men instead.
You do need to consider the time period this story was written in. For one, women don't hold a lot of power. Navier was sold off to the emperor's family before she was born. Rashta was born to slaves so she became a slave herself. Both where sold and used by the people around them. The difference between Navier and Rashta is that Navier is someone who takes responsibility for herself and does what she wants within those possibilities. She was raised to lead a nation. Not born to be a child.
Rashta on the other hand had the life of the lowest class with no proper education. Because of the abuse she suffered she can't find strengths and objects to use around her. For example Navier left Rashta aid for charity projects and others so she could boost her own image as the new empress. In an attempt to show that she never blamed Rashta for her desperate acts to undermine her authority within the palace. Because Navier recognized Rashta held no power at all. So she gave her an up to gain more power for herself. Rashta was the person that couldn't recognize the gesture as kindness and aid.
If readers gotta pick between a character who sees the situations for what they are and what their own role is in the situation and they take responsibility for it or if they gotta pick between a character that drowns in hopelessness and don't take any chances they are offered. People are more likely to pick their ideal character rather than the character that reminds them of themselves.
And if I gotta be honest if there's one character that made my blood pressure rise it's Sovishu. That asshole already had a slave as wife. Navier was sold before her birth to him. It's just put into this shiny jacket of she's the empress. Rashta was just the second slave he picked up. And where Navier has the pride and strength to run away and do her own thing. Rashta is too scared to make a move because if it goes wrong she'll die. But in doing so she made the most stupid choices and it's sad.
@@Souchi-ito I don't remember that first one but I think Kosair was unreasonable and stupid. Why abort when the woman doesn't want? It's her opinion. I just don't normally type out my opinion on these things cause I don't like the drama on the original sites. They're so annoying.
In most webtoons Rashta would be the protagonist her story is pretty heroic, specifically in the beginning and Navier could totally be her villain, but since we see things from her perspective. It becomes an intresting switch up. But I do agree that the fandom took it too far and also it would have been interesting if she hadn’t gone full villain and could have been redeemed
This is something that I thought was done pretty well with Diane Portier from I will give up my seat as Empress, who eventually came to the realization that the one she should blame was not Adel (the MC), but the Emperor who drove them both to the brink
I would still think Rashta is horrible even if she were MC at that story, she will steal someone else' husband whose wife is incredibly faithful and supports said husband. She is someone who refuses to give an olive branch to anyone unless they completely kneel to her.
I was about to comment the same thing. In a different story her behavior wouldn't be too far off from a harem female protagonist entering the palace and moving up the ladder for a higher position.
@@anotherclone7687If she were the mc, it would not be framed as her "stealing someone else's husband", it would be her "being saved from being a slave". And the queen's faithfulness wouldn't be highlighted as much, the fact that their marriage was one born out of convenience and duty would be more so highlighted, making the marriage seem much less real. Also all the times characters have looked down on her cuz of her social status would be treated as something actually disrespectful instead of just being casually said in passing cuz theres quite a lot of that in the current story.
Fr. Like ur throne n the king guy becomes the antagoinst
It will always irritate me that Navier ( and the audience) is pushed to side and like Lebetti. I hate how the author refuses to have Navier acknowledge that Lebetti is an ABUSER and SLAVEOWNER, not a fan girl, not a victim or ally. Rashta has every right to hate her, to embarrass her. I will never have any sympathy for Lebetti, her brother, or understand any reader who sided with them.
i was incredibly upset when rashta sold lebetti for slavery because of the act of selling a girl for slavery (a girl who, while tolerating horrible misactions and being horrible to rashta, was still y know, a kid, who is not responsible for the fact that rashta suffered in the first place) seemed SO horribly out of character???and deplorable asf??rashta as a character would likely kill or torture lebetti, not fucking sell her to slavery??????????and If she did I would honestly shrug and toss that aside in the 'bad thing to do but honestly wont hold it against her' territory,
despite that, I do despise lebetti. she fucking sucks and does not deserve the kind disposition navier gives her. at the same time I also understand shes a product of how she was raised and becomes an adult after rashta runs away, meaning she had no time to distance herself from what she was taught. i have a very very small amount of sympathy for her and that's simply because of the fact that she doesn't deserve to be sold into slavery; no one does, not even lotteshu of all people. she does deserve straight up ridicule and harassment from rashta; rashta deserves some comeuppance after all.
no sympathy for her brother though, he's an adult man who slept with a slave who realistically could not say no, convinced her he loved her and would free her and let his father torment and permanently traumatise her. anyone who has sympathy for him should redirect it to his son or rashta.
(sorry;;;this got really extended I'm just super passionate about that one plot because its the only thing I hold against rashta except for the killing that one dude thing. everything else goes into the 'it makes sense and I just want her to get therapy and actual real support so she could even attempt at being a better person.' realistically she cant because she has no support, is isolated and is being manipulated from every side and struggling from ptsd that prevents her from giving love to her child; one she may have not wanted, but one she wants to love and care for)
@@LittleSirBoyI also felt that it was really out of character for her to have her maids tongue pulled out??? (Cuz the maid found the bird feathers hidden under rastcha pillow, no idea why she kept them) I don’t understand why the author would make rastcha do such a thing and not have her stress over it, she basically tortured the girl and lied to her brother( who helped her be seen in a positive light to commoners !! ) I’m glad there’s a hiatus now or else I would’ve dropped the story, it feels like the author is just making rastcha the most evil when there are SLAVE OWNERS in the comic
@@sofiafuentesargueta8036welp fun fact, the comic/webtoon is an adaptation of the novel of the same name. You can read the tl version of the novel in NovelUpdates (where they link peeps who are translating the novel) or go to it's Spoiler Forum to spoil the story.
@sofiafuentesargueta8036 exactly, after all if you have the sole slave character as an enemy to all the rich royals including slave owners, the only way to keep the fantasy fulfilment comfortable for the young girls reading it is to demonize the slave and have her commit atrocities.
@@LittleSirBoy Not saying it's the right thing to do, but trying to sell Lebetti into slavery makes perfect sense for Rashta. Lebbtie mistreated Rashta for being a slave so if Lebttie herself becomes a slave, she'll get a front row seat to how she made Rashta feel. With the added bonuses of Viscount Lotteshu losing his own child to slavery, a horrible trade he himself contributed to and gleefully basked in such abuse.
I used to hate her, but the more I read the novel, the more she looked like an ordinary human being to me. She was a slave who was abused by her master both physically and emotionally. she is powerless, that's why when shovieshu offered her comfort, she accepted it imediately. Rastha actually good in nature, when the first time she met navier, she genuinely want to get along with her, not knowing what she did for stealing navier's husband was wrong. but rastha was a slave for all her life. she is uneducated and never interct to people like a normal people would. in her mind, that's probably the normal things. her trauma of losing her child and betrayed by his former lover make her twisted. no one was on her side to help her. her husband abandoned her. her friend who she trust the most was actually a person who was sent to plan her downfall. I feel sorry for her.
Yeah honestly I believe she actually started off as good and sweet person in the first season, it's just everyone basically used her or treated her like she was just some thing instead of a person. Hell at first she generally wanted to be friends with the empress and in a later chapter she has a flashback where she actually dreamed of meeting the empress and thought that she would be good to her.
But instead Navier constantly treats her like an enemy, constantly attacks her verbally, now I get why she does some of it, but a lot of it feels just out of pettiness and it can go too far, like befriending Rashta former master Lebetti who's an abusive little brat and don't forget when Navier's brother legitimately tried to poison Rashta with an abortion drug to get rid of her unborn child and when Navier finds out she wasn't furious with him, in fact she's only upset when Sovieshu banished his dumbass, Navier even going so far as to lie to a priest who says, "your former husband says your brother attacked her." And she denies it even though she knows it's true.
@@cutelittlecatgirl.6202 ikr, being friends with libetty was definitely too much. Liberty is not even a good person. She was as horrible as her father and deserve punishment. Navier's brother is basically a psycho. He will do anything for his sister even if it's a crime. Our ML is not even the sane one. He is manipulative and will do anything to get navier as his wife.
Tbh, if the story was from rastha's perspective, we probably will cheer for her.
@@user-nn6lu9mm9n Your definitely right I was so mad when Liberty wasn't going to become a slave now I'm not going to be saying she should be a slave forever, and a lot of her ignorance and cruelty come from her extremely cruel and asshole father, but she should at least get a little taste of the abuse she put Rashta though in the hands of a better writer that would actually be a good start to a character redemption and growth.
And you definitely right about Navier's brother Kosair he is nuts, he comes off as seriously psychopathic look, look I get why in some sense he's doing it because he loves his sister but he's clearly an idiot and that whole abortion drug incident hurt his sister more than actually helped her. I mean I get why his sister is the way she is as she was raised to be empress and didn't really have a childhood, but what's Kosair's excuse for being such a psychopathic little shit?
And Heinrey is honestly pretty creepy the way he's pining for another man's wife and using his bird form to get near the queen and the stuff he does after he finally has her I mean geez, in other story he'd actually be a major villain of the story, he'd be a tyrannical despot and remorseless killer like murdering his sister-in-law and tormenting her father who had nothing to do with what she was up to, he also destroy an entire house, it's family even the servants, the guy's a remorseless killer that in any story you want to see his head taken off.
Yeah I also believe if the story was from Rastha's perspective there would be people actually rooting for her, I mean there would be some parts that needed to be changed or go like the whole removing a servants tongue and whatnot, but besides that she has the makings of a protagonist far better than an antagonist. I mean she far better and more interesting than the plank of wood of a main character Navier.
I'd say that the easiest thing to do when writing a good villain and protagonist, is to NOT make the villain a slave, and then not make the hero the second most powerful person in her empire, who totally had enough power and influence to end said slavery in the first place.
That trope COULD work- but holy moly did the writer not executed this at ALL😭
Yeah man, the reason why I drop the series is because Rahsta case is just VERY PITIFUL.
She's literally a young naive girl throws into lion den. If they make her a noble or change her personality, it can work.
lets not act like heinrey wasnt making moves on a married empress of another country which could easily get her into scandals. he also used his friend to manipulate rashtha
if this story went any differently heinrey would be the master manipulator who did everything to isolate navier and then took her away to his country lol
@@danny8747it’s the way people praise and kiss up to Heinley for THE EXACT THING THEY ACCUSE RASHTA FOR DOING (seducing and pershing a married man/women). And how he originally came to conquer Navier’s empire in the first place. But it’s ok because he’s the love interest who can’t do anything wrong, right?
That's not the author's intention though, at least not from my perspective. I love how the author wrote Rashta with complex layers, like her moments of being on the edge of doing the right thing but getting side-tracked because of how toxic the world is. Why would the author do that if their intention was to make Rashta a villain for readers to hate? I actually love the story because I saw it as a challenge to the readers to make a proper judgment. A number of the 'liked' cast of characters do some god awful things, will the readers cast the same judgment towards the 'liked' and 'unliked' characters fairly? Especially when you consider Heinrey's character and the timing of when we the readers get to know him better.
I couldn't understand why the author didn't have Rashta side with Navier but rather have her SLAVE MASTER side with Navier
It's called bad writing. The authors message summed up,'How can a slave ever compare to an empress even if she is stunningly beautiful. Know your place'
@@MaryamAhmed-on9hu wtf was the author thinking, what does she even think of poor people? Lowest of the low?
@@MaryamAhmed-on9hu I don't get how you come to that conclusion. It seems just as extreme as all the rashta hate. I think it is quite obvious that rashta is supposed to be a really tragic character that we come to understand and feel bad for with time. If the author wanted to tell a story about how immoral poor people are, they would not show that every bad decision rashta takes is a direct results of her traumatic past. If the author would intend to bash poor people, rashtas situation would somehow be her own fault.
@vorgebrauchschutteln3859 I think you are being very charitable towards the author. I have read the whole novel on Yonder and at certain points too much grace is given to the protagonist characters, while no such courtesy is extended to others. E.g Naveir got a shining hero ready to break the universe for her , while rashta gets blackmailers and manipulators calculating her demise. I have enjoyed reading it, but the disparity is glaring.
Isn't it even weirder for her to side with navier? And especially for navier. Why would she need to? Rashta is pretty powerless the whole story
Rashta is easy to hate for girls in the "not like other girls" frame of mind. She fits a lot of girly stereotypes. She's ultra feminine. She's pretty, men fall in love with her, and she notices and exploits it (though she's also exploited for it). She's helpless against her slave background when most people like to think they would find their way out (even though she did escape physically, which is impressive, she is still socially trapped and blackmailed).
Navier is interesting as a protagonist because she is really not like other girls. She's described as "cold" but she even seems autism-coded. She's work-focused. Strategic in action, prefers structured relationships and clear boundaries. She seems repeatedly befuddled about emotions and big emotional displays. Slow to respond to emotions in the moment. She seems to take a long time to process and identify her own emotions. When upset, she shuts down her expression and internalizes.
Despite being married in a relationship that used to be warm and friendly, she seems inexperienced in feeling attraction or interest towards men. Her marriage to Heinrey almost seems like a second puberty. She's really easy for teen girls to relate to even though she's a grown woman. And presumably the demographics of heavy webtoon readers skew introverted and neurodivergent.
She is also "not like other girls" in the meme way. She is conventionally beautiful but she seems...almost neutral towards being beautiful. It hardly benefits her since Rashta stands out. Navier is never seen "trying" to be beautiful except that she gets a special dress for a special party. Like prom. Rashta copies her appearance and dress, relatably devastating.
Rashta is the pretty girl who likes parties and easily navigates social situations and seeks people out. An introvert's terror.
You are so right
this webtoon hate just proves how people don't truly understand the severity of what slavery is. if you were genuinely a slave, her actions and circumstances make sense. I feel her character is like the hidden main character. tragic, and surviving.
The fact that i saw many people comment disgusting things about Rashta being a slave was a shock, like being a slave means you don't have freedom , you're literally a living object, they go as far as saying she shouldn't have ran away , like she didn't even make the choice of being pregnant with her past owner , he owns her and used her , and she wanted to be free from him , how's that bad ?
I saw a post about how under any other circumstances the fact that Navier upholds that system of slavery would make her the antagonist but instead it's a story where the slave is villainized.
@@izayoi2006 well that doesn't make sense the emperor has thr highest power so it would've been uo to sov to outlaw slavery, not navier, also being a slave doesn't mean you go out of your way and abuse your power once it's given to you. She said she would very on thr commoners side, and yet she switched up, being a slave is no excuse for what she did. And if the slavery thing is the empress's thing, why didn't she try to abolish it? I sympathize but in no way do I condone or actions just because she was treated badly.
@@izayoi2006normally it would make sense that Navier couldn't abolish slavery considering the intricate process that takes years that could even break out in civil war. But if we consider the astromincal plot armour that Navier has it would be easy for her to just say "hey, slavery is bad, let's abolish it. And everyone else would essentially be like "Well the FL said this is bad so I guess we gotta agree with her."
This sounds absolutely stupid but considering how Navier is viewed as Jesus christ in this world, it wouldn't be totally out of the question
the way they wrote and drew her in some scenes made me forget her justified motivations. Overall her greed and corrupt throughout the story is understandable when you look at her unstable roles in society. Her character arc just gets more and more depressing the more you look at it 😭
i dont even think sovieshu is as hated as rashta and that makes like no sense 😭🙏🏽
he is hated waaaaay less.
and the why is actually very simple! misogyny!
not the one that is shown willingly, but rather the one we all have engraved in our minds as members of a patriarchal society. it's easier (expected and even in some instances encouraged) to dislike a woman over a man.
ik this sounds like leftist conspiracy theories, but just take a look at male vs female villains are received in other media (esp when the audience isn't predominantly queer)
I remember going to the forums that both were hated, but I think Soveishit was more hated. And we're happy to learn that SPOILER......
He was the one infertile
Plus, I do think the webtoon was tainted by the novel fans, who kinda overhyped how horrible these two peeps. While Soveishit showed his true colors, Rashta hadn't. So it's a waiting game to see if these overhype commenter are true or not.
Nah soviesh*t is hated more than trashta in the forums I am in 😅😅😅
He is, rashta just has been doing things more actively.
I just find it very icky that the bad guy is a slave. Why can't it be another noble or queen? I have always noticed that a lot of Korean webtoons/manwha have women who are not rich as bad guys or two-faced, but the rich girl is always the good guy. Can we have a main character who is poor be the good guy.?
I think it might be because the trope of a poor girl marrying a prince is a little overused but for some reason, a lot of manhwa authors misinterpret deconstructing a typical trope as "villainze everything about the original trope no matter what"
I personally think one of the best webtoons is she's hopeless as the characters in that are actually three dimensional, they have their flaws and no one's perfect. When we meet the main character's love interest she is a bratty spoiled jackass, but as we get to know her we see why she is the way she is and you legitimately do feel bad for her. I also particularly love the ending as it felt more realistic than a lot of these other Korean webtoons.
My biggest concern is why are the people who hate Rashta acting like slavery is some minor inconvenience instead of a massive human rights violation? Even in this world, your parents or grandparents could’ve gotten in trouble, and you’re a slave due to guilt by association, which I think is what happened to Rashta. Seeing people call her a gold digger or that she doesn’t help commoners (as if anyone in the comment does either) so that makes her a worse person is kinda gross, when even if she was a gold digger, she’s a slave. No one wants to be a slave. If she’s trying not to be a person who’s humanity is considered null and void, then I’m glad she’s taking advantage of her owner’s son an and the emperor. (She didn’t, but even if she did, these men don’t deserve happiness.) Also, I never saw Navier doing anything to get rid of the slave system, even she definitely had the power to do that. “But she cared about her people, even the commoners!😢” Yeah, and the slaves were her people too, but since they’re basically objects, I guess they don’t count.
Ikr, like do we have to explain to them how depraved and disgusting slavery is in general with detail? I can name 3 atrocities it wouldn't even scrap the tip of the iceberg.
Theyre young usually so they dont have the perspective to see that flawed people arent always the villain and theyll grow up to realize this world is blurred between grey neither white neither black AND they just want something to hate.
@@MariLionheartI’m young but me and many others don’t believe that, they just lack media literacy 😭
@@sunshines4898same but sometimes they just genuinely don’t know better, I’m 15 (pretty young imo) and I know better but that’s bc of other factors and some ppl don’t have the experiences and etc.
This is why I couldn't get into the remarried empress. I hated the way slavery was handled by the author and the fandom's rabid hatred of Rashta in the first few chapters gave me the ick.
I disliked Rashta from the first season, and when I got to the third season, then I hated her. On the other hand, I despised Sovieshu the entire comic, hes barely done anything kind, and harming everyone around him with little to no thought.
Honestly same but I feel both of them are in the wrong but I pity rashta a bit. I think she has a good character with a good story and I think she could’ve had more 😭
But the emperor seems like real villain he doesn’t show love to his wife of his concubine- which rlly pisses me off
What? Other than bringing a concubine, being an ass to Navier, he did everything else in kindness. He ruled the empire properly despite being mentally unstable, let the nephew of his traitor cousin free unlike birdshit who did everything cruelly except for being a bootlicker for MC even then he touched her without consent in his bird form. Sovieshu is a pos for treating MC unfairly but rest was far from cruel compared to birdshit
I will say that if the point of Rashta was to be the petty evil manstealer, I don't know why they chose to make her a slave. There's a reason a lot of these rival girlies in media are from much higher standing then the FMC's - it's because it makes the FMC look like the underdog. Navier is an empress from a happy life of privilege. No matter what mean things Rashta does, it always feels a little like Navier is punching down on her.
This was exactly the reason why I dropped the comic so early. I could NOT be expected to root for the empress against a slave, no matter how "likeable" the empress was or how "awful" the slave was. Like I don't care how much of a hate sink Rashta is supposed to be: nothing about that dynamic will make me root against a slave and for an empress who is complicit in that slavery 🤬
Don't let the rabid hate comments influence you into thinking that the author also intended for Rashta be so hated.
Copying my comment on another post here:
That's not the author's intention though, at least not from my perspective. I love how the author wrote Rashta with complex layers, like her moments of being on the edge of doing the right thing but getting side-tracked because of how toxic the world is. Why would the author do that if their intention was to make Rashta a villain for readers to hate? I actually love the story because I saw it as a challenge to the readers to make a proper judgment. A number of the 'liked' cast of characters do some god awful things, will the readers cast the same judgment towards the 'liked' and 'unliked' characters fairly? Especially when you consider Heinrey's character and the timing of when we the readers get to know him better.
I agree that sometimes I find all the worldbuilding including Navier cruel, but i also like this time the roles were reversed. Cause just cause Navier was privileged, it didn’t mean she couldn’t be hurt.
The point of rashta is to show how people act when they got power.
How Navier act when she is the empress, got banished, lost everything she works for and now try to get her place in new kingdom,
How sovietshu act like power is a sure things that he always have and then lose sight because of inferiority complex towards his own wife.
How Henry is juggling down between being a king in situation where wasn't ideally chosen to be one.
And then How Rashta acted when she got the power and still couldn't understand that she got a choice.
The manhwa begin with rashta winning, and also she is indeed win the fight with Navier but the fact is that she can't be satisfied with that.
I feel like people don't understand that Rastha has sad backstory but just because of that, all her bad and cruel action can be forgiven.
Also just because Navier was born in privilages doesn't mean she was always happy, she was forced to be the empress and genuinely love sovietshu. Then she loses everything and building her life again.
It's to challenge that specific idea, not to see a privilage people as punching down just because they have better life and choose a better decision. Navier chooses to leave when she could stay.
And to be able to discren that rashta, even with or without power is still a cruel person. The author try hard to make her symphatethic as opposed to sovietshu but all people get was "Rashta was never wrong".
No one lives knowing tongue should be cut out yet Rastha did it.
I feel like people can't comprehend that people who is born better doesn't mean they can't have hardship and you deserve everything, even to cause harm to other people if you've been harmed before.
Like they forget how Rastha aid in navier downfall even when navier had left her alone.
People should read beyond the divorce part and actually see Rashta action rather than trying to justify her.
@@anastasyavie6236you're so effing right, its so annoying that we unconsciously jump to the idea that going through hardship can excuse mean, obnoxious behaviour. no one has the right to inflict harm on others no matter the background.
there are some holes in the story, like how the author kinda glazes over the fact that there are slaves in the Empresses's empire and she didnt really challenge that? like, 'navier is a good hearted ruler, empress for 5+ years' yet her people are enslaved?! I dont remember that topic being tackled, but i hope it was??
Anyway, back to Rashta. we are allowed to feel for her, wether it be anger, sadness, disgust or pity. we get to know her past(which is so fucking sad it felt like a telenovela) and we watch how she acts during the main story, the choices she makes.... she was somewhat naive and unable to judge her own and people's actions (understandably so, she's traumatized on many levels) which caused so much trouble... why would your lover's WIFE send you a welcoming gift?! and give your unborn, affair child a gift cause now there is finally a royal baby?!?!?!?!
Since we are talking about 'when we should forgive', lets take a look at Sovieshu and just some of his terrible choices.
THE fucking emperor found a wounded, runaway slave while he hunted and though "oh nice! my wife couldn't get me an heir but this woman might! lemme ruin my marriage through an undisclosed scheme and drag my wife's face through the mud for more than a year while the empire fawns over my concubine just cause shes pregnant, pretty and down to earth!" THATS NOT DECENT PERSON BEHAVIOUR, NOTHING EXCUSES THAT AND THE FANDOM AGREES!
....so why shouldn't people act the same towards rashta? her background is pitiful but she had choices once she found the emperor.... choices such as 'dont be a homewrecker', 'dont turn into a concubine', 'dont purposefully stepp on THE empresses toes' and much more even after Navier got out of the picture
Yes, Rashta took her newfound power to push back on her EX SLAVE OWNERS (i think thats fair) but her maid was innocent and got her tongue cut; her second baby's nanny was innocent, yet rashta was so quick to defame her when the maid ran to the emperor on behalf of the royal baby's well being; the mage girl that was treating the emperor's health was innocent, but Rashta thought she was competition and plotted to kill her; i havent read the novel in a long while, thats all i remember from the top of my head...
I think most people in the fandom are as violently mind dead as sovieshu, like, wanna help the slave? buy her out, start working on a social reform to fix YOUR KINGDOM, give the slave a good JOB so she can be independent, publicly push back on slave owners BUT DONT DESTROY YOUR MARRIAGE, LET YOUR COMPETENT WIFE HELP THE PEOPLE AND THE KINGDOM LIKE SHE WAS DAMN TRAINED TO DO!!!!
Making horrible choices doesn't make Rashta less of a human being, but being traumatized doesn't make her less of an abuser either. if someones economies were suddenly stolen and they turned to robbery to stay afloat, should their crimes be justified? people watching from afar might say yes, but its easy to say when the money wasn't yours.....
Holy shit I finally. Understand.
Remarried Empress is one of my guilty pleasure comics, but reading the comments always made me feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
Like don’t get me wrong, she does do some truly heinous things, but like
I read her backstory and position and I’m just like. “Wtf is she supposed to do”
I genuinely feel like Shovishu should be the one receiving the hate Rashta does, and while I’ve never seen anyone like the man it’s insane that SHE’S the target of pretty much everything.
Like, this girl was a slave. And slaves can’t just…escape. Being this concubine was literally her only choice. Like, a lot of the stuff she does is a direct reaction to things happening TO her.
Also there’s a thing even you didn’t really talk about which has always bugged me:
Something no one seems to care about is…Rashta’s entire world experience is _completely_ different from Navier’s. She doesn’t have the same connections, opportunities, and education. Shovishit (which is a much better bastardization of a much worse character’s name, imho) tossed Navier aside and shoved Rashta into the new role of empress without anything more than some VERY basic lessons. Like, the girl was still learning to read and write, because that wasn’t an opportunity she had as a slave.
She’s being forced to navigate this completely different world with barely even a fraction of the knowledge and time her predecessor had to learn how to do so. She also comes from a life that force fed her the life lesson that you are the only person who will ever have your own back. She’s been abused and mistreated and used her entire life, and coming here she STILL is, she just has nicer clothes and a full belly while it happens.
Nothing has challenged her world view that no one around her can be trusted. Especially now that her husband and her “only friend” have also started tossing her aside, ignoring her, and betraying her.
She has no allies. No one has her best interests at heart but herself, and she is not actually qualified to make the choices she has to make.
Of course she’s fucking it up. She’s uneducated, unaware, and alone.
If there was a single goddamn person in this comic that treated her like a human being, instead of an obstacle, a pawn, or a toy, then maybe she could grow. If she could trust anyone, maybe she could BECOME a girl’s girl.
But she doesn’t, so she can’t, and she likely won’t. She’ll continue making terrible decisions because she is ALWAYS in a corner in her own mind-even if she really isn’t, she has no context for really being able to tell.
She’s a bad person, but you can clearly see the thread that made her become that person, and that makes her so interesting to me.
And I’ll be forever sad that other readers and 99% of commenters only seem to see this 2 dimensional villain bitch when there is SO much depth to explore here.
Also, your spreadsheet slaps. I fuckin love spreadsheets. Making a spreadsheet to track a characters actions to understand why the masses hate her is exactly something I would do. It’s a beautiful spreadsheet I want to see it in depth
Piggybacking on your comment because you eloquently put into words what I felt reading the comic. I don't like Rashta, but her actions make sense in the context of the world and her story. I feel sad for her, and she definitely does not deserve the level of hate that readers feel for her.
remarried empress is the type of novel/webtoon where main characters get reincarnated as the villainess (Rashta) in other webtoons and then eventually fix her actions and feel sympathy for her.
This was exactly what I was thinking. I would read a story with Rashta redemption arc in a heartbeat.
Fr I was thinking to do a fan made of it
Maybe I will make fanfic out of it lol
Omg you're right on the money, they always show the og villainess as a pitiful yet petty, even tragic
i’m still waiting for someone to make one for this (might be me but i’m too lazy)
"why wasn't Sovieshu hated as much as Rashta?" Sexism. Just. Sexism.
Im genuinely curious whether most of the readers are mysogynistic men or just internalised sexism from women😮
This like those "this is just how boys are!" 💀
@@avalanche_dreamsnah-literally hormy young gals who only think with their hormones and not their brains 💀- and low-key pickmes
@@avalanche_dreamsas a woman...it's sadly a lot of female fans
People are always ready to hate on a female character. They love using the excuse of it is common for other female characters to be bad.
Also people ask for more women supporting women but it seems to be that they find the opposite more interesting
Personally, outside of Rashta not being supportive to her fellow women, I think it’s because Rashta and Navier are subversions of their character archetypes and it both fascinates and frustrates the readers.
The best way I can describe it, it’s sort of like if there was a high school story about the shy and quiet poor girl getting the attention of the popular quarterback away from his popular cheerleading girlfriend and that you later see how malicious, spiteful, and rude the poor girl is compared to the popular girl who is helping the awkward girl in class get her confidence up or lending money to the janitor because he’s fallen on hard times. You don’t expect the popular, rich girl to be sweet and kind and you don’t expect the poor and quiet girl to be more of a mean girl, but because that’s what the story shows you, it gives you a range of emotions and expectations.
Wow you were spot on with this one!
Your description kind of fits with the webtoon, but the popular cheerleader isn't participating in making the poor girl or and others continually keeping them poor, the queen had every opportunity to end slavery but she didn't. Also if you made your description into a story I think you'd at least make the characters three dimensional.
I want a comic based on Rashta. I want to see ALL of her story and her slow decent into madness from toxic and exploitative people, an unsupportive environment and overall unfortunate circumstances she had to fight tooth and nail to get out of
The angst! Frustrating rage inducing development! The tragedy!
It will be a great series fr fr
Heinrey is a good husband but not a good father....Sovieshu is a bad husband to Javier but a good father to the child who is not actually his...
I just wanted to share this fact thank you for reading the comment!
Navier not javier
no no no, he is good father to his child not to "the child who is not actually his"
well we all know , its not like he intentionally tried to be a father of the child which is not actually his. cause if you have read the actual novel the you are going to know how he just abandon the child completely after knowing the child wasn't his.
idk from where you got this view but i can't agree he seem to be selfish
and also "Heinrey is a good husband but not a good father" can you explain this line more cause i don't remember plot supporting your statement so can you provide more details
@@roshanisah6241In the sequel where Lari (the female twin who, simply put, “looks like Navier but has Heinrey personality”) is the main pov. There’s an implication that Heinrey favors Lari more than Kai (the male twin that looks like Heinrey but has Navier personality). At one point he fails to reprimand Lari because she looks like Navier and we all know that he’s head over heels for his wife. Kai also seems to get ignored. However, whether it’s because of his introversion (and Lari is much, much more outgoing) or because Heinrey favoring Lari is up to debate for this part.
Idk why but I now hate Henrey so much, at the start I liked him but I think since they got engaged (and I grew up) he's unbearable to watch for me, I don't don't have a real reason I just hate how he is and how he is constantly like "🥺👉👈"
Bro the one comment about her not being innocent cause shes a slave is so messed up. Wtffffffff
Honestly the women in the story sound like victims while the men just sounded like monsters. Its insane everyone hates her when these women deserve way more kindness.
A user on reddit said it best in my opinion, though I'm paraphrasing this: Rashta can't have any good qualities because then it would be easy to sympathize with her over Navier.
Let's face it, Rashta is hated because she's written to be hated by the author. She's selfish, impulsive, naive, petty, cruel, two-faced etc. Every repulsive trait you could give your female villainess, she has it. Her background is a tragedy that the average reader could sympathize with, but it's intentionally offset by her character writing--because if she had one redeeming quality, we would be able to look at the severity of her past as a slave and see how light Navier's issues seem in comparison. A runaway slave with no family, sold by her father to pay off a debt, taken advantage of by men all her life, who could barely read nor write, who lost her child at birth when it was wrongfully taken from her, trying to make a better life for herself in an empire that condemns her? While Navier was born with a silver spoon, raised to be the empress surrounded by wealth and adoration throughout her life, including by loving parents who cared for her, and received the highest form of education as a royal. Infidelity is horrible and indefensible regardless, but in comparison to Rashta's problems? Wouldn't the average reader make an obvious choice if Rashta was written to be more sympathetic?
Rashta's a wasted character written by an author who either didn't think of the implications of Rashta's past or tried their very hardest to not let it interfere with how the characters are viewed.
And having finished the video, I think that's also a part of why you didn't understand the common consensus for Rashta, apart from her not being a girl's girl which I agree with too--you viewed her character arc as a character arc. You didn't justify her actions, instead, you extended it into her backstory and saw Rashta as a tragic character who couldn't be free from her past and her flaws, and her desire to have everything, as a result of the trauma from having (and BEING) nothing before then, ultimately leading to her fall. You saw the potential of her character from the start, independent from the main characters--beyond being the "Mistress", beyond being the inferior adversary to Navier's story, beyond being a plot device, really. And I think that's more than what a lot of the readers and the author conceived of.
THIS IS WHAT IM SSYING
That is true and well thought out.
No one could've said it better 🙏
Also i’d like to point out the forced pacing of reading episodes only once a week instead of at your own pace.
Some things are allowed to fester in your mind longer than it probably should due to having to wait for an episode. The actual pacing of the story is now off because of it.
I could think a character did something absolutely horrible at the end of a chapter and it would stain my view of them, and then next week it’s revealed to just be a fluke. That character is still stained, even just a little, because of it sticking there for so long. And, sure, the relief that it’s just a fluke is gonna last for more than just one week but the damage has already been done. I’m not saying that’s what happened but things similar to that are probably what’s going on with the readers as well.
Plus lets not forget that the average age for the general readerbase of the Remarried Empress is likely on the younger side.
THIS!!! i honestly couldnt read the comic after awhile because the treatment of Rashta's 'character' was so poor and obviously no well thought out. i always wondered why Rashta became the antagonist and not Sovieshu, wouldn't that be the more engrossing story? Imagine the drama of former friends becoming enemies due to their societies expectations of them! instead, we got the black and white narrative of Rashta vs Navier....
Also, as a black woman, they idea that I need to empathize with an incredibly privileged noblewoman who does nothing to stop the SLAVERY in her country over a SLAVE using the few advantages she has (her looks) is absurd and insulting.
The Remarried Empress could've focused on the misogyny at play in their society, but the author chose to Madonna-Whore it.
That comment about Naiver being a girl's girl somehow made me more upset than it should be. Because if befriending the daughter of a slave owner is considered a girl's girl, then I don't want to be one. Seriously, if Sovieshu didn't start shit, one of the female side characters usually does.
Navier was only nice to Rashta when she was her maid in the AU side story. In short, the message says you can get away with anything as long as you're friends with the right person and never venture outside your place in society. That is if you oppose the "good guys".
This comment is so true.
Seriously, why did Navier befriend the daughter of a slave owner?🤔
Honestly that is true. All the women who worship the ground she walks on are all beneath her from ladies in waiting to commoners and what do you know? The queen dowager Krista ends up being treated as a threat to the point where she had to be dumbed down, humiliated, and killed off to keep Navier as the ultimate girlboss.
Would you be nice to the affair partner of your SO?
Yes, becoming a concubine was rashta's only option to have a better life, but to navier she was only her husband's lover, the one thing he promised he wouldn't do because his father hurt his mother by having concubines
@@jbgra2566honestly not want to be friends with Rashta is fine but man, I wish they make Navier smarter. Like okay, there's new concubine in palace, she's commoner and has no idea about palace politic. What I don't like is the fact that Navier is the Queen and she has every right to control the maid, the servant and even the friend of the concubine. Her opponent is not even a noble. Irl, getting rid of Rashta will be very easy lmao.
Man, this webtoon has so many problems.
Navier also only befriends Lebetti to hurt Rashta. Everything Navier does is calculated.
It's so interesting because I don't even think the writer UNDERSTANDS their own women. If we're being honest Navier never loved him and didn't WANT him like that. It was the COMPLETE lack of respect for their traditions and what they spent their whole lives being ready for (and being bestfriends through) that broke her heart. I don't even think Navier even hates Rashta as much. I truly believe if Rashta hadn't survived as long in the palace and got thrown out/replaced, Navier would've made sure she was looked after at least a little.
I dropped out Remarried Empress as I didn't like the story. I didn't care too much about Rashta since she was acting for the sake of survival. What I hated was how everyone portrays the Empress like the most intelligent and capable human being, yet she failed to defeat Rashta even in the easiest situations. It was sold as a story about the greatest empress, but all I saw was an absolute failure.
Also, no one condemed the actions of the other prince even though he is as horrible as Rashta: taking advantage of the Empress' emotional vulnerablity, HELPING bringing down the Empress, and practically flirting with the Empress in front of the husband, etc...
A bad story with the typical author saying, "This character is good/bad because I said so. It doesn't matter how they act or anything else."
"It was sold as a story about the greatest empress, but all I saw was an absolute failure."
OH IM WRITING THAT DOWN THAT WAS FIRE 🗣 💥
Edit: Thnx for the likes yall...mom look im famous 😂
Yeah, they're trying too hard to make Navier sounds like a good person, which is not great writing
damn sis spilled the tea🔥🔥🔥
I thought Henry was icky for being friends with the Duke who planned to ruin Navier's marriage and the fall of their empire. But I was petty and thought he was a nice middle finger to Sovi.
My criticism on Navier is how bad her communication skills are which no one talks about. We see the story in her POV so we know how she thinks and feels but not the other characters.
rashta finally being free from being a slave, finally with agency, only to find that she actually DOESNT have agency, and thus doing her best to rely on emotional manipulation and her own charm/beauty to find even a SCRAP of control over her life, and feeling the need to compete with navier and prove that she is worth anything to sovieshu, as she is afraid of being cast BACK into slavery if she doesn't perform as she ought to (ADDING ONTO THE FACT THAT NAVIER DOESN'T LIKE HER AND SOVIESHU IS/WAS ACTUALLY PLANNING TO GET RID OF HER???):
average webtoon reader: SHE IS SO EVIL I HATE HER SO MUCH!
She cut the toughe of a girl
@@martinramirez1856Nobody is justifying her actions. People are discussing how sickening it is to pick over a girl who had EVERY RIGHT to grow into madness and become such a horrible person.
@@honeybee1651 a ok, sorry
Sovieshu was honestly the real villain.
I'll be honest, I am someone that started out passionately hating Rashta, why? Simply because she was annoying, but the more I got used to her, the less I hated her but hated her actions, they made me so angry because of how downright and obviously dumb some of them where, like choosing dishonest maids, heaven knows why, killing someone who helped you, getting mad at Navier for no reason and many more, but I got angrier at her actions, the more I started to pity her. Sovieshu used her like a breeding animal, completely disregarding her after she had her baby, she couldn't even hold the baby when she got the chance and threw her like a football because she was badly traumatized, her former master kept blackmailing her, when she didn't really have access to everything. Her obviously stupid decisions kept getting her more hate, making it difficult to have good companions. Ergi the only person she really trusted, backstabbed her in the worst possible way, and her child even isn't Sovieshu's, and she can't even be blamed for that, because it means just after "loosing" her child, Alan the real father, probably slept with her again, maybe even r*pe! Prompting her to run away. I really felt bad for her (I still hate everything she did though) Because you could really see the innocence in her eyes. She's innocent, dumb, and illiterate, how does anyone expect her to understand pregnancy timing and all that. She's a very interesting character, one I hate, get angry at, and pity every time I see her. I wish she'd dissappear or die peacefully so she can be free from all this.
Honestly, I just wasn't able to continue liking the story after realizing that the morality of it just revolved around Navier:
If Navier likes you=You are good.
If Navier doesn't like you=You are bad.
And it's just INSANE to me, because at the start, Rashta wasn't even bad? Like, she was ignorant, desperate and traumatized (because, you know, she was a RUNAWAY SLAVE), SOVIESHU was the one who took her in as a concubine and refused to teach her about etiquette and limits because he wanted to use her to make Navier jealous, people hated her for being "the mistress" but having concubines was actually common practice on the empire, we are supposed to dislike Rashta from the start when the only "crimes" she commited were: Acting childish and cry, and then we are supposed to ignore she just gets worse due to the way everyone around her uses and manipulates her (Ergy, being the biggest example, he literally and purposefully pushed Rashta into doing more heinous deeds, but the narrative will just brush over that facet because Ergy is, kind of, on Navier's side). But Rashta is just bad, because she got on Navier's nerves.
In contrast, Sovieshu is actually not so bad because he did love Navier and went kind of crazy for how much he missed her, and Kosair, whom we are told is violent and kind of crazy, is also not bad even though he tried to cause Rashta to miscarry, and Heinrey is also not bad even though we are told: he actively sabotaged the lives of mages, and he would have invaded Navier's country (and kidnap her) if he hadn't fallen in love with her, he also decieved Navier and wouldn't have told her if Navier hadn't found out he could turn into his bird form, and he's also a terrible father that favors his daughter but ignores his son, because the daughter looks like Navier. But that's all fine, because Heinrey loves Navier and Navier loves him.
This entire point of Navier being the "moral compass" on the story is also further proved while reading the extras where Rashta is "good", because she was allowed by the narrative to be on Navier's side, and we have it finally confirmed that Sovieshu was the problem from the start, because SURPRISE, he looks for another mistress. And let's not talk about the fact that Navier is supposed to be awesome and good, but she still doesn't do anything about slavery in her own empire.
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every webtoon reader needs to see this comment
Wow, you just perfectly worded my exact feelings about this story!
I was reading the remarried empress up until right before Navir’s second marriage. Truethfully what turned me off the most about the comic was the commenters. I read a lot of those villainess reincarnation stories, and in order to handle many of the interesting ones you have to be willing to offer characters a certain amount of grace for their terrible actions. So when I was reading, along with everyone in the story but except for the king and her previous slave owner I offered Rashta the same grace. As far as I was concerned Rashta was a stupid person desperately trying to scratch her way the hell she was in. I found it hard to condemn her the way I saw other people doing. If she had a bit more brains she could have been the protagonist of another web novel. I guess many other people either did not or could not offer her that grace. 🤷♀️
Right? Given the same circumstances and a better personality or better character growth she could be a very compelling protagonist. I wish Navier and Rashta had more interaction that wasn’t all about their positions or Soveshu
I absolutely love the remarried empress, but if I had read the comments about it I probably wouldn't
Hmm, I have been intrigued by the concept of "villainess" stories, but I have been quite turned off by them being essentially just the normal female romance protagonist and villains with a different coat of paint. Basically the "villainess" protagonist is almost always virtuous having done practically nothing wrong with them either being framed, misunderstood or reincarnated into an actual "villainess" character and the "heroine" character is most of the time the person doing the framing, or completely supportive of the "villainess" protagonist.
Quite frankly I am sick and tired of the stereotypical "female romance" story. I always looked to the villainess trope in hopes of a flawed protagonist that gets a new chance and has to slowly learn how to be a better person/fix their mistakes of the past. What I got was just more of the same.
Do you have any recommendations on villainess stories that have an actual villainess protagonist who doesn't get all their actions excused by the universe? I would very much appreciate someone pointing such a story out to me, because I have long since given up on searching.
@@hamdepaf6686 I can’t think of many off the dome but I do know “the villainess turns the hourglass” is good. Hope that helps
The problems with Rashta was the fault of Soveshu. Rashta was a stupid, easily manipulated teenager and if Soveshu had supported his wife, treated her like the empress, and kept with the social expectations, Rashta would have had a very different time and likely not been decapitated.
We SHOULD hate Soveshu who expected his wife to behave in a way that was contrary to her expectations an position. Soveshu, fucked up. He failed to understand his wife becuase he was to caught up in his own feelings, Soveshu failed to communicate with Navier (a woman prepared to accept concubines), Soveshu tried punish Navier for maintaining protocol and standard expectations. Soveshu deserves the hate, Rashta deserves pity. She is guilty, but she only became that way BECAUSE Soveshu did a shitty job.
I used to dislike her.
Then I thought..if my choices are die a slave or live a good life..
Im going second option.
But soveishu
He is the real villan
She is hated simply just for being against Navier
Had it been Navier in her position. She'd be hated just as much.
I think while she was personally cornered, her character is like watching someone walk into a glass wall while everyone eggs her on. She doesn’t think for herself & is critically stupid, I mean you’d think she was developmentally stunted. With her backstory I think she might be. I do wish there was a discussion about the pretty privilege she had. Her life in slavery was awful, but she only had scars on her hands compared to other slaves who suffered worse. She is at the bottom of the hierarchy however her beautiful looks elevated her when she was a slave & even as a concubine. However, despite this luck God only can give with one hand.
@@yandereskittyI think this framing is pretty intellectually dishonest, accepting her position as concubine was never the issue. It was expected by everyone including Navier. Had she held her position with tact and grace there would have been no issue. She did not even attempt to try to make the best of her situation, rather she went out of her way to assert herself in inappropriate ways and try to force a disingenuous “sisterly” relationship with Navier which is made her unlikable. Not to mention her tantrums and abuse of staff and animals. Those actions are strongly disliked in reality as well so I’m not sure why everyone is acting confused as to why she gets hate.
@@genzillennial She was manipulated by many, but at one point you need to think for yourself & Rashta seems straight up incapable
Ngl, I lost interest once the author started listing all the reasons why Navier is a good empress while also FAILING to address slavery. Like after the initial premise, nobody ever says anything like slavery is wrong. In this world, slavery seems to be brushed over by the characters, while adultery is treated like the absolute worst thing a character can commit
Yes! And it ends up deluding little girls going through a "im not like other girls phase" into thinking that doing the bare minimum or just choosing to surround yourself with yes-men is girl boss behavior.
TLDR: Not only does Rashta do a lot of horrible things that can't be excused just because of her circumstances, she seems to be hated more unfairly than Sovieshu because she is more prevalent and antagonistic in the story (she does more provoking things in the episodes, making people comment angrily about it more). Sovieshu is hated too, the target of the comments just depends on which character did worse things in that particular episode
In my opinion, people don't just hate Rashta because she isn't a girls girl, but because her actions are just so heinous and infuriating 😭If I remember it correctly, she ripped feathers out of a bird to frame Navier and then cut out a maid's tongue for finding the feathers while cleaning, assassinated a fellow slave who trusted her just to see if the assassin was capable, sentenced a maid's father to death as the maid begged at her knees (for telling someone that Rashta was looking for something when asked), and is selfish and insufferable in most episodes
Also, people don't hate Rashta a lot more unfairly than Sovieshu, it just depends on what comments you're reading. The amount of hate each character is getting depends on which one did worse things in that specific episode, and that becomes very clear when you are looking at episodes where literally everybody is trashing Sovieshu (like when he said that Rashta might lose her charm after being educated or when he decided to divorce Navier so he could use both women for his own benefit), in which some people are actually saying that they feel bad for Rashta.
It just seems like people hate Rashta way more because she does provoking things a lot more than Sovieshu in the episodes, which people will obviously talk about in the comments, and people bring her up in other webtoons because she is a two-faced "innocent" pretty girl character trope from a popular series
Also, here are the three top comments from the episode where Sovieshu says he wants to divorce Navier:
2DMenBefore3DBoys: Sovieshu underestimated two women: Navier for thinking she will wait two years for him and Rashta for thinking she will realize she isn’t fit for being empress and will step down after one year. I don’t know if Sovieshu is an idiot or naive, but he just signed up for a ton of misery coming his way.
trickivicki: so sovieshit thinks that he can just use both women however he wants to his benefit?? where does he find the audacity
em Lou: Interesting that Sovieshu doesn’t want anything to do with a child that isn’t his, but expects Navier to be excited over his love child and accept it as her own. And by interesting, I mean he is an asshole.
Most other comments are similar (This happens on a lot of episodes where Sovieshu does something infuriating, whoever is hated more just depends on which comments you're looking at)
Edit: Another comment that is very true
Midgepo: I genuinely want to know WHAT Soveishu thought was going to happen. Did he think she’d be GRATEFUL after doing something so shitty and psychotic??? After attempting to kill an animal JUST because she’s sending messages to Heinery? Not even being explicitly romantic, meanwhile he’s off gallivanting with Rashta? What is WRONG with him?? I cannot wait to see him suffer and realize he has no one to blame but himself for losing Navier. He’s an awful, manipulative man that only thinks about himself.
You put it perfectly!! that is exactly what I was thinking throughout the video. I haven't read the webtoon in a while but I remember being in the comments and being happy that the people there were thinking critically, they were always trashing her but also were very critical of Soveshu's actions. They didn't take the stance of hating the mistress more than the cheater himself. They called out bad when they saw it regardless of who it was, even when Navier's brother acted cruelly. The way she acted just made her easy to hate, especially the whining and acting dumb.
This was something I was thinking about too when watching the video. I vividly remember people hating on Sovieshu and calling him Sovieshit in the comments and Rashta, Trashta. Because everyone called both of them out also I have read comments about analyzing her character(Rashta’s) of being a victim turned villain. How due to her situations made many just hate her due to her actions her trauma is a reason not an excuse while Sovieshu is just an asshole who is so self centered and narcissistic to the point he thinks using both Navier and Rashta he would gain something? Like, both are shit and it really depends on what happened in each chapter and you will see it from people either hating Sovieshu or Rashta more. Even if it on surface level can be seen one dimensional like I felt bad for Rashta but any pity I had was lost due to her own actions being infuriating or just outright deplorable. Also takes two to tango so as both are two blame for it but for different yet similar reasons.
You ate too hard I didn’t even watch the video but I saw some comments saying people just hate her to hate her and she is complex and has a sad background which doesn’t make you complex we know she is doing this so she can live comfortably also she doesn’t have to be a b word about it which also makes her more unlikable hence the hate she gets and they tend to make her do ridiculously cruel things. So I was confused but I finally I see someone with the same perspective as mine.
I watched this video and I was thinking the same thing. Like are we reading g the same comments. The initial hate towards Sovieahu is way stronger than towards Rashta who everyone just thought was really dim and annoying
Yet heinly does the same things, provoking, torturing people, sewing people's lips, stealing magic, killing poor servants of zimensia dukedom yet people overlook it cause he's a simp for mc
Bro I feel so bad gor Rashta, especially in later chapters, she's not only suffering from post partum, but its also amplified by the fact that the viscount literally showed her a dead baby and told her it was hers (even tho it was alive),,, she's dealing with so much, and she has NO ONE on her side (sometimes deserved,, like the maid situation)
Omg no she was alot more pitiable earlier on she litr keeps ordering murders and tries to SELL people in later chapters. I really feel bad for her whenever the ugly viscount is involved tho
I think not a lot a people understand post partum, and it's a shame because it is such a big part of her frame of mind.
@@plutojelly6635 Exactly!!!! Especially with the trauma of being handed back a dead baby and being told it's yours
pppl were legit blaming HER for that situation, and it genuinely made me so sick
It’s actually healing to read the comments here. Rashta isn’t a perfect victim. She does objectively awful things that perpetuate the abuse she lived through, and feared as a slave. Rashta also only does that because she’s naive, and she was never given a glimmer of sincerity from anyone around her. Everyone is either trying to placate her or use her. I feel the same way about Rashta, as I do about Anthy from RGU (another controversial female character). These are characters who do awful things because they don’t see another way out from it. They’re more scared of what will happen if they don’t submit or act callously or cruelly. That’s not to justify their actions obviously, I always feel like I have to reiterate that, but people are always acting as if Anthy and Rashta aren’t being actively abused and manipulated throughout the ENTIRITY of their stories, and thus they should have perfect cognition of their actions and making good judgements even though for them, they’re literally just trying to make it to the next day. That’s not healthy human fucking thought or behavior !! If you feel like you have to survive even when you’re technically safe, chances are, you’re either currently being abused, or you haven’t been able to work through that yet !!!!! In both of their cases, it’s both !!! It’s so hard to hate either of them, (Rashta in particular for that matter, because Anthy was written with the intent of being a complex character) because you just know that if they were in a different environment, they would have been, and could have been different people. If they weren’t literally pressured 24/7 to fight for their position of being allowed to live without cruelty inflicted on them, they’d be pretty fucking normal actually.
Utena mention!! But, yeah, absolutely.
I naturally don’t like Rashta for obvious reasons but I like her as a character (if that makes any sense) because of the depth she has as the story progresses. She was a woman doing everything she had to do to survive- despite those things being quite terrible to Navier. And I can respect her want to protect her child
Honestly, I was part of the Rashta hate for a while, but then I took a step back and realized that it’s overwhelmingly stupid to keep on going about that.
Then I also happened to quit that comic due to a gradually decreasing interest in the comic.
And looking back, the thing I found most entertaining about that comic was specifically just how stupid the decisions made by Rashta could be, while the romance plot between Navier and Heinrey felt like a side plot.
Actually, that might be a part of why I quit that comic now that I think about it, cuz I started reading for the romance, and then it started feeling like “look at this one character who is just the worst with barely any justification for why she is the worst” was the main focus of the story.
I don't like romance between Navier and Heinley (what is his name?). After they got married, it became boring. Now I realize that Heinley was seducing Navier too, which should be considered as bad thing but because he is the ML and the story won't go anywhere if he didn't do that, no one talks about this.
Same ! I am more interested in seeing Rashta then the love story with Navier and the guy, that why I drop the comic
@@akarifuyuki9763same, he became so boring after the divorce, like his only personality trait was that he loved Navier
Same, I remember only reading to get to the next Rashta/Souvieshu plot, it was the only interesting thing going on tbh.
if u take out the remarrying and divorce part this story is like every other bland story. navier who is supposedly infertile magically gets pregnant within the first year of her remarriage(because the bed had mana stones??) and also ends up becoming a powerful ice mage( again because of the mana stone bed???) and has an ex who is still obsessed with her lol . she then uses her ice mage powers to better her empire and gets everyone in the empire on her side. its very cliche and navier is the perfect bland and boring mc
i also think her family is little disgusting as well. her brother trying to make rashtha miscarry????? rashtha was a slave she had no way of refusing the king who liked her and eventually became used a pawn by literally everyone (sovieshu for his heir, ergi for some port, her former master and her own dad for money). in the end she was punished even though she actually gave birth to the emperors son (ergi bribed the priest i think its very vague in the novel) and died in a locked room... just so sad. her entire life was tragedy after tragedy. its sad how unempathetic the readers her
towards the end i think she was mentally unstable. everyone was betraying her and she didnt know who to trust. she dropped her child because of her severe ptsd (i think she imagined her dead son?)
my girl needed therapy
I feel like Navier should’ve been the one to find Rashta in the forest and helped her get a stance in society and it should’ve been a journey of Navier helping Rashta find Rashta’s child and lover
That would require of an author give Navier an actual character, development and agency beyond pity party and nothing else to her character. It would also require to actually acknowledge Rashta as something more (to acknowledge her abuse and how people who did it weren't "cute" or in the right for doing it) than cheap villainess that only exists to torment Navier.
@@donewastingtime7939 apparently the author wrote a side story where instead of sovieshu , navier found her and she actually didn't go down a dark path
@@serenajackson86 Will have to check it out, as my only knowledge of this crap was this main story, which was crap all around.
Or one where Navier is actually a decent person and abolished slavery from the empire, I mean isn't she the benevolent and kind empress? Surely she could do that
@@anihan8848 whattt bro you know that empresses cant just set rules out of nowhere right ? They have to go through a hell of alot people before being accepted and then it takes another hundred years for people to accept it 😅
As a person, I hate Rashta. She chooses to do awful mean things. As a character, she’s a fantastic characterization of an antagonist born out of her background/upbringing
finally found my people who don't hate rashta like a blind- minded crazed person
No fr cause now the amount of hate she is getting is out of hand😭. I left for a couple of months and when I come back I come back to THIS? A massive- not even massive, a GINORMOUS hate train on Rashta where almost everybody in it has no idea why they even hating on her. Like c’mon- if you’re gonna hate on her, AT THE VERY LEASTT have a reason gang. Like even if it’s just one, literally just have one becuz wtf is this hate train on her bro🤦🏾♀️
I love this comment section ❤
She is Unloyal right?
No cause even reddit is... Well you know. I thought if there was a large population of hot takes it'd be there
Am I the only one who truly wished for atleast one female character that was on Rasta's side? Not aiding her in her petty actions but trying to talk her out of the predicament that she was in? Trying to convince her that people (including the emperor) was using her? Like maybe a duchess or a princess or even another empress who could've not only tried to talk her out but even offer her a job or something?
And then we can have like, a separate storyline where Rashta's conflicted on whether she should run away or not? (obviously she won't..but it's worth a shot?)
I agree. I feel I would have liked her more if she had someone to say; "No don't do that it's stupid."
Now that, I'd love to see
I didn't finish the story, but I do remember that Rashta was desperate, uneducated, petty and most importantly outsider to the court. As a orphan slave girl she was an outsider to society as a whole. Realistically it was very unlikely for her to meet another female character able and willing to genuinely help her. Though I agree, that it would have been very interesting to see a dynamic where Rashta was given opportunity to grow. I would have liked Navir more, if she had been kinder to Rashta.
I feel like that's part of the tragedy of Rashta as a character. I don't think she could have made friends with someone that was telling her things she didn't want to hear, even though it would have saved her.
Rashta actually had one and what she do? She had her tounge cut out and then killed to never be seen again. The maid was very loyal to Rashta but before the maid could do more, Rashta shut her down and surroundEd herself with psychos.
Honestly they could've fixed so much by just making Rashta of low ranking nobility, not high enough to actually be someone of name but high enough to be privileged. It eliminate so much of the weird power imbalances and gaps, and it also make Navier seem better when she wins against Rashta. Because I'm actually not at all impressed when you win a wits match against someone who's an illiterate slave.
And if the author wanted to include slavery that bad, just...make Navier be against slavery and actively work to persecute slavers and make Rashta be the one who's keeping slaves. You kill two birds with one stone! Make Rashta someone who's evil from the beginning and make Navier an actually useful empress who's accomplishments aren't just lip service.
i havent caught up with remarried empress in AGES but it always used to rub me the wrong way when everyone DESPISED rastha in the comments
because i know for a FACT that a lot of these people would support rashta if she was the main character
all her past trauma, all her troubles, they're definitely the making of many mcs in manhwas
LIKE??? ROYAL COURT IS NOT A BLACK AND WHITE SITUATION????
of course im mostly angry about the hate from the start so i do accept that she's really complicated!!
I feel like the main issue with webtoon comments in general is that a lot of them are 12-14 year olds with internalised misogyny or a general lack of critical thinking skills beyond what they're told in the story. This means that every female love rival is automatically an evil bitch, the heroine can do no wrong etc etc. It gets really tiresome to engage with after a while. Even with action stories like unOrdinary, where the main character is very obviously doing horrible things and going through an Anakin Skywalker-esque bastardization arc, the commenters are still brainlessly cheering them on.
@@aaliyaramanathan5362 QUITE LITERALLY THIS!!! i can attest because i was also that age when i was in my webtoon phase and MY GOODNESS have my taste changed
but even then, it was overwhelming how SO many people jumped on the hate train before the second love interest even DID anything ?? when they were proven to be bad, i was fine with it, but a lot of the time, those comments came BEFORE anything happened
mind boggles me, it yet again worries me how young teens are exposed to so many toxic images of relationships like this
I don't think so. I don't believe people would automatically love rashta if she was the main character. Not if she's doing the exact same actions as she has done in the story currently.
@@tiorinaya2104 oh most definitely!! I haven't read till after mid season 2 so I'm not sure of all the evil stuff she does afterwards so I agree!! Although a lot of villainess mamhwas have mcs that act horribly and still have ppll supporting them
The hate really started piling on when she made actively evil decisions like ripping feathers off Heinly and framing it as Navier. Before that, ppl were hating Sovieshu waaaay more. Especially in the novel
I also feel the reason why Rashta is hated on way more than Sovieshu is because of internalized misogyny. There’s always this idea that when a man cheats, he “can’t help it” and the mistress seduced him. It’s pretty common in real life cases for people to automatically attack the mistress or girl the husband/bf cheated on wife/gf with even if the girl might not have been aware that he was taken, instead of attacking the husband/bf who is undoubtedly at fault. And even if the husband/bf is attacked, they are always attacked less
I'm so disgusted at that idea, cheating is inexcusable no matter what the reason. Even if they are forgiven, the trust won't for a very very long time even possibly in lifetime
in general I think people tend to be more critical of female characters than male ones
I blame Soveshu so much more because not only did he drug Navier and treat her like garbage for the rest of their marriage, but he preceeded to cry about her every night after their divorce as if his pregnant wife wasn't right there. He doesn't care about anyone but himself
The misogyny is so much more real than people think it is! People have this idea of women being smart and conniving, so whenever blame needs to be placed, it is more than likely on us. People hold Rashta more accountable because they feel her part in it was more intentional than Sovieshu. Sovieshu is just a "dumb man who chose a bad mistress", and deserves sympathy.
@@gracequeeney3399it is excusable if it's a conveniance marriage. In a fantasy or historical setting, most marriages aren't based in love, so, even are seen as an economical contract. There are so many poems uplifting lovers outside marriage.
Would be based if the author immediately wrote a villianess redemption/regression isekai thingy on Rashta
I don't really hate rashta its the fact that after she got everything she lost her "husband's" trust . The true villan of this story is sovieshit (aka sovieshu) he treated he casted aside navier even though he was the one who made her infertile (which is not true because rashta cheated on him with duke ergi) like this man treated everyone like shit and even casted aside rashta like why?? You chose her and rashta isn't that bad its what all of us would have done in her situation so yeah sovieshit is shit
You're forgetting heinly ska birdshit who's worse than Sovieshu.
@@Souchi-ito actually agreed😂
And ersghit grooming child and rape woman. You know disgusting? Rasta very young to all characters. She 16 th ersghit is old. Creep bro
Why won't navier end the slavery if she cares about others?
Lmao right 😂
Author never thought of that, their desperate to make Navier look perfect so to avoid the fact that one of her main flaws was not viewing slaves rights as necessary they justified that thinking by demonizing the sole slave character instead of just having Navier go through character development.
beacsue the story tell us she is kind but her behaviour didn't
True cause basically Navier is the one who is running the empire on behalf of Sovieshu so i question does Navier can't implement better laws and rules especially for the victims of slavery? Then we get some spoilers from the comment section that Navier's daughter became the next ruler of Navier's home country but did she abolished slavery???? Probably Not. It kinda reminds me of a russian Empress where People said is a "girlboss" because she overthrew her deadbeat shitty husband, conquer crimea to get warm water but basically serfdom (basically slavery but with white people) that she promised to end doesn't happen. I don't know FML like Navier gives me ick
"She can't just END slavery, she's only the MOST BELOVED EMPRESS that everyone important ADORES."
The magical bird men can stay, tho.
imo rashta’s greatest downfall was that she was written to be The Other Woman and beyond that her backstory just got used for, occasional sprinklings of flavour with no real concern for how absolutely horrific it is. the way some of it was also framed as. her own fault for being “stupid and naive” is genuinely insane to me. i remember reading it w no prior info and being genuinely shocked to see how hated she was, because she seemed like she had the potential to be a nuanced interesting character and it, never really played out. she kept getting cast as some mean other woman, and i eventually just, gave up on the book entirely bc i simply could not get behind a book where the mc was a rich woman who grew up in wealth and not for one second experienced any sort of financial instability bc even when her husband divorced her she just, got to marry the other richest man on the planet, and the bad guy is, a runaway slave who is getting literally the first lucky break in her entire life, who is being constantly shamed for not understanding court etiquette even though NO ONE offered to teach her and soviewhatshisname literally left her to flounder and look stupid so he could comfort her when she cried and tell her she’s the good one they’re all mean and they just hate you bc you’re prettier than them, whose only company other than gas mclighterson is plotting against her for smth that wasn’t even her fault. like it FELT very weird and like there wasn’t a huge amount of intelligent thought put behind it bc who in their right mind looks at that and goes “yeah this is the perfect novel idea. this is great”
honestly thought the excessive hate was just underlying plain misogyny :/ bc why isnt the husband getting this much heat for being FAR more scummier, and when rashta, while actions questionable, is definently much more of a tragic victim than an evil ireedemable antagonist (which btw, i thought she was with the amount of hate she gets but no shes a victim bro)
Real
I’m saying, most of the hate that she gets is just hate train hate and then theres the small percentage of people who actually hate her for different (and valid) reasons and I’m one of those people. I didn’t not like Rashta because she was the woman on the side, I came to hate her because of the pain shes caused to others and because of the heinous things shes done. Although I understand why she did it I won’t condone because it is straight up wrong. Some of the problems she has and has faced is because of her and not Soveishu (idk how to spell his name😅)
Sovi DID get a lot of heat, in fact I still see some people referring to him as Sovishit. The hate mellowed down because he a) suffered the consequences of his actions b) wisened up to Rashta's manipulation c) had a plan all along and didn't just decide to cheat.
@@gryla5290 Still, Sovieshit are not that popular if you compare to Trashta
A bigger puzzle is why people adore that Henry guy but hate rashta 🤨, Henry was infact seducing a married woman doing the same thing which rashta gets all hate for
I do firmly believe that if Rashta were the protagonist, she would be adored by the readers, now when I say readers I mostly mean webtoon commenters because they just believe in the FL no matter what they do
(Lore olympus, im the queen in this life, princesses jewels, etc..)
Rashta already has most of the components necessary to make the average webtoon FL.
She's got a traumatizing backstory, a man who "loved" and betrayed her for selfish reasons, a new man who wants to protect her with all his power and in the end she gets a "happy" ending but she would still make a terrible protagonist since in this case she'd probably still commit all her atrocities but would get away with it thanks to the plot armour she'd receive, you'd think Rashta would be universally despised all the same but you would actually be wrong.
Case in point: Persephone from Lore olympus, whom i consider Rashta if she had main character plot armor. Both are very childish young girls who catch the eye of older, wealthier, and powerful men who treat them well but also objectify them. They both are not very concerned about the actual wife/girlfriend of their lover
(Navier and Minthe), with Rashta willing to tear Navier down to appear as the better option to Sovieshu and Persephone only asking to take it slow instead of stopping the emotional affair all together, even turning Minthe into a plant as well. They are both given a job they are clearly not qualified for and when they marry their powerful lover, they both become drunk on power and have been shown to abuse said power to harm others, and yet Persephone is idolized as a girlboss who can do no wrong and Minthe, who would be the Navier in this situation is villianized by the fans and author as this wicked witch of the west character.
What makes Persephone even worse is that unlike Rashta who at least has reasons for being horrible (a life of slavery and abuse) Persephone is a nepo baby, she is the heiress to her mothers company, she already had it all to begin with but was very sheltered which was used to add to her "cinnamon roll" innocence, and everyone still adored her even though she knew she was causing Minthe emotional turmoil but didnt really care that much, it gets worse when everybody who either rightfully calls her out or simply isnt on her and Hades side, they usually get scorned, mutilated, and given horrific punishments.
(Unless your Apollo with only community service.)
That is exactly what happens when someone goes against Rashta, but at least Rashta gets punished for her deeds, and when someone goes against Navier...it usually doesn't go well, since Navier has all the protagonist privlages, siding with her even if you're a slave owner or a warmonger makes you the good guy. And if you even think about going near the evil woman who isn't on Naviers' side from the get-go and you dont change your mind well, what do you know, you end up dying.
In conclusion, it doesn't matter how terrible a person is in these god forsaken fantasy fufillment, as long as they are the FL and attractive, they can do whatever they please.
Rashta is far more interesting than Navier. Navier is your perfect bland MC. Yes she has her own flaws, like she is cold and difficult to connect with people, which lead to her problem with her ex husband. But I don't know, those flaws still make her boring. She is still perfect bland, who in the end can do nothing wrong, everyone likes her and if they don't, they're bad people. I think she is mary sue.
@akarifuyuki9763 The sad part is that Navier does have flaws that could be used to flesh out her character. From what I see, she's pretty tone-deaf and ignorant, such as saying, "I'm not desperate enough to steal from others." When's she wouldn't need to because she's the empress. But instead of the narrative framing this as Navier being ignorant and having her go through character development, it's portrayed as a girl boss one liner.
@@lilithdarkheart4716 Yes. She is passive character. She gets everything on silver plate. Everyone does things for her. She and Rashta are polar opposite and the example of good and bad in the story.
Good comparison 👏 👍 👌 🙌 😀 💪
The genre would also completely change, id honestly like to see that
we have to collectively agree the real villain is the female rivalry over a MAN trope
Tbh i also found Rashta interesting i never knew why ppl just hated her to that degree
Because she's a homewrecker, normal readers are against NTR. And second she's annoying and childish compared to FL so the readers felt unfair on why the husband prefer her, and third is she keeps getting worse and worse over time, shutting down almost all sympathy from some readers and make the opinions from most readers that already hate her, become valid and making the FL shine brighter in comparison to her.
The lack of reading comprehension is making most readers unaware of the real villain of the story and realizing how Rashta is the real victim all along, even she turned evil later mostly due to other characters and the author influenced her further. Plus the internalized misogyny plays the most part on why sovieshu still has a number of fans despite all the shenanigans he did, while rashta is the fans' scapegoat in the series while the most evil one is actually men like sovieshu, viscount lotteshu, duke ergi and even henrey. But somehow all of them got sidelined or even ignored as most fans prefer to hate rashta instead
@gracequeeney3399 wait. The trashy king has a fan???? Most of the comments that I saw (back when I was reading it but it got boring and Rashta was all evil at thay point) was hating both of them equally and saying how they're perfect for each other
I've never seen a comment supporting the king and mostly the hate is on rashta since she's more active in being the antagonist and she got more desperate as time goes by to the point the first rashta has no trace of her in the current one
People hate her because of how she treated navier. And the fact that she's a mistress and people in general just don't like Mistresses or cheaters in general. And yes we see her backstory and the fact she was a slave. None of that is good but at the end of the day she's still acting like this. Even though navier isn't even in the picture anymore. She got what she wanted. She's the empress and yet it hasn't made her happy because her husband is still in love with his ex-wife
@@gracequeeney3399 wasnt the Henry guy doing the same thing?Seducing a married woman, flirting with her????
@@gracequeeney3399Yes misogyny can be internalised. This is true, I can speak from experience.
It honestly just seems like an incredibly common sentiment I see a lot: when a man cheats, it's entirely the mistress's fault for "seducing him" even though the man also made the concious decision to cheat.
It's a very misogynist view of the situation, and I'm sure this is the reason people hate Rashta so much. They believe it is entirely her fault despite the cheating being entirely mutual.
Sovieshit is his apode.
You think they didn't hace that bastard
@@blepblep7245 she killed People.
@@blepblep7245Rashta does not get hate for just being the "other woman". She gets hate, at first, for purposefully and continuously going out of her way to antagonize Navier. If Rashta was just living her best life, most everyone would just look at Sovieshu. But Rashta's insistence on asserting herself to Navier's face, despite Navier trying to avoid her, and later her crimes against her fellow lower-class citizens and slaves is why she is hated. Namely her killing them, blackmailing them etc.
@@emoneestep this,
rashta is cruel and also trampling on other people's chances even when she theoretically has won. Navier left, she gave it to Rashta and what rashta did after that?
become even more cruel and only care about herself. She was never a good person when she got the chance to make it right.
Also people keep saying, why sovietsu didn't get much hate, it because no one likes him to even have the discussion like rashta. No one even care of him, he is dead on arrival, everybody has written him off.
Rashta also like you said, she pokes and continue to find way to make navier and other character miserable when she can just leave them alone. She even cruel to people who is a lowborn. If people say that power reveal their true color, rastha is that, she was never a good person and people suddenly forget that because "she was suffered" in the past.
Yeah you are right but we are also hating on him as well for being ungrateful and cheating on our queen I meant empress and then trying to forbeden her froming going to the new empire like bruh trash GET OVER IT AND GET A LIFE I hate him so much the only thing I liked about him was that he was willing to make his "daughter" the empress which was not comonen in sociaty for only a women to rule an emper without getting married he was a good father but NOT A GOOD HUSBAND AND EMPEROR
despite the initial hate for Rashta (it takes a very strong moral fiber to not hate the mistress of your husband), Navier only pities her right now because she ultimatly knows this is all Sovieshu's fault. He's the one that brought Rashta to the palace, he's the one that snubbed Navier in favor to another woman, he took advantage of an already vulnerable girl and used her over and over again. Even when she was pregnant with his child, he only saw an incubator for a heir when he tought his wife couldn't give him one. It's very easy to hate the other woman and gloss over the cheating husband's mistakes. I love the remarried empress, cause both Navier and Heinrey have flaws and morally grey moments, as well of other members of "team navier". And despite all of that tragedy in her life, Rashta still wants to reach the top, no mather the cost or people she stomps on her way, and that's exactly the reason she will fail and lose.
i've noticed more recent episodes are showing how pathetic and abusive sovieshu is and it makes me so happy. he's the real villain of the story, not rashta
Rashta is a punching bag of webtoon.
something i can relate, thats why i love her. A lot of the things she does, i relate (not where she steal her husband) i feel sorry for her, because she's been through so much. It sucks people don't see how slavery affected her.
Yeah I feel like it's such a meme at this point it's not even fully understood
Fr! Every single time a blonde, sometimes teary-eyed, female side character is introduced, there are tons of comments going "Trashta 2.0 😂"
She's better and well written characters than navsty boring@@hannahleigh6152
Rashta, is a villain you kinda root for, I find her more interesting then the MC’s at times. Rashta brings more to the table the more we read. Most of her actions are unbeatable. . . At times.
It’s just sad that on webtoon when ppl have these conversations about Rashta, instead of having a discussion it just turns into an argument.
Sometimes I wonder if this author could do a what if scenario ...for Rashta where she get happy ending
@@lizandraoliveira8974she kinda did a what if story where rashta turn back time while still retaining her memories and guess what? Sovieshu in that timeline finding another concubine to impregnate with, cuz rashta refuses to be his concubine and choose to work as navier's maid instead
@@gracequeeney3399 happy ending for my girl? She can keep her children?
my problem with Rashta is that she is very reactiv in her actions. And that she often takes the worst option possible.
@@hufthoch4812 I blame that on her writting. They unfortunately keep her dumb so she'll always be girl bossed back into place for the wish fufilment
I think the biggest tragedy of Rashta is that she has no safety net when her trashy husband leaves her for the main character. Her life constantly hangs in the balance and the second he leaves her She'll be back to being poor and alone.
It kind of reminds me of men who marry younger women, squeeze out babies, don't let them work, and then leave them for someone else.
Rashta honestly sounds like the most compelling character in the story
She is tbh. Without her in the story it gets boring quick
see, if the author is smart, she makes rashta at least the side character. let's imagine a naive concubine who befriend the queen and found out the king is awful and tries to warn the queen but nobody trust her because her low status and she's only a concubine.
the only person who trust her is the queen, and it saves queen's life. the queen or whoever the male lead, make the plan to overthrown the king.
and to make shit spicier, the concubine is dying after protecting the queen, but they safe the baby. so the queen adopt the baby. now that they manage to overthrown the king, they can abolish enslavement. and people cannot even complain due how the story of a slave who save the queen life.
navier has zero personality and is "cold". shes extremely boring lol
Yes, she is. Sometimes I genuinely feel like she is my favorite.
She unironically is. Every other character is as interesting as my white wall in my room, and I'm doing a disservice to my room's wall by saying this.
You have douche emperor whose sole purpose is tormenting his wife/ex because he is insecure that she is better than him (a man).
You have female lead who only exists so you feel sorry for her, with the personality of cardboard cutout beyond that.
You have her new creepy- I mean "sweet" lover/future husband who you only see as "good" because he isn't her ex. Even though he is trash of his own (but ignore it - don't question it).
The rest is mostly just team Navier or obstacles that plot demands so Navier can be "woe is me" some more.
the irony is if rashta is the main character, everybody would be on her side real quick. 😅
Nah, if she was the main character I still wouldn't be on her side. I don't agree with breaking up someone's marriage, no matter what the reason is.
@@justSunny7 I agree, but if she was the MC, author would definitely painted her in good light so readers would sympathize with her more.
Depends on context. I still wouldn't side with Rashta, especially afterall she did on the later chapters
If rashta the main character the author will make her smart and making navier as the ungrateful nasty empress
No, I don’t like cheaters, animal/baby abusers, or lying Karen’s.
Something people liked about the story that I remember is that Navier didn’t have to connect with or sympathize Rashta for the sake of ‘girlhood’. But why not just… let that be the message? Rashta didn’t need to be a villain to justify Navier simply not wanting to associate with her. Rashta being secretly petty and mean is pointless
This is the "perfect victim" mentality. Since Rashta is not "fragile" and does not act like a victim, its normalised to ignore that she is also a victim.
So her being a victim we should forget her actions?
@@sakuraxworld4566no but the constant hate train on her shows how biased everyone is against her even when her actions are understandable or context appropriate, she’s an antagonist for a reason, but the hate she has garnered is completely over proportional to the decisions she has taken
The reading comprehension on this guy, jesus
Im so glad she mentioned she hated Sovieshu more than Rashta! I dislike her but I absolutely HATE Sovieshu! He's such and idiotic narcissist! Everyone just focuses more on Rashta cuz she's overdramatic...🫣
Sovieshu isn't narcissist he's entitled. Narcissists don't act like that and never admits their wrong doing let alone regretting things which Sovieshu did. Using the word narcissism so casually dilutes the term.
Rashta disliking Royalty who allow slavery to persist? How crazy!
well said lmao
omg the scene with you as L and rashta as light 😭
I had an artistic vision🤣🤣
@@mattybites I knew I recognized it!! I was just about to make a comment! I knew that pose. Because I sit like that half the time.
I've both pittied Rashta and hated her actions. Like I contextualize she's doing what she's doing to better her situation and shovishu is 100% the real villain. And everything bad that happens to him/ her are the results of his own actions. It's just a shame Rashta got dragged along. She would have done better with someone else. But! We wouldn't have a comic then.
Before her self-imposed (and trauma-driven) downfall, Rashta was ultimately the main victim of the story. While Navier is on top of this absolutely morally bankrupt system actually benefiting from slavery, Rashta is just trying to survive and thrive in the only way she knows off. But on the other hand, how DARE SHE be annoying?!
I never hated Rashta, she was uneducated in politics and how the nobility worked, she was obviously tramatized which made her pretty bad at judging people's characters, she is mentally like a child with outbursts because she didn't have much of a life, she didn't get to experience things in a health manner. She knew she got things when she outbursts or cried. Didn't help when the Empror took her in without easing her into a life and setting boundaries for her and his late empress. I hated him more for the way he spoiled her and encouraged her to act more like a child and every outburst she had against the very people he is ruling. He had many chances to reassure her and to educated and set boundaries and tell her his expectation. But instead he expected both women to read his mind with all his planning he did in secret and is shocked when things don't go his way. He continues to not to speak to Rashta properly wanting her to open up to him first... but remember she is like a toddler, less understanding why they are in the wrong unless you tell them why and how to correct the issues. Or they do know what is wrong but needs to be taught how they could have handled it differently. The emperor himself should be known as a good leader and guide others and so much more. But he was more selfish than anyone in this story. Do I hate him? No I think he was just stupid and selfish. But characters with their flaws and to make so many hate the character is amazing to me. To have people say "no I hate this person! I wish I could delete them." But that same viewer comes back time and time again excites me. You may hate this character, but this character was meant to make you feel this way. That is why I don't hate Rashta, she was meant to make you feel riled up. But dislike the emperor instead since it seems his actions are more overlooked and he is supposed to be the more educated one and better understanding. But he failed Rashta and in guiding her to a better result.
She's same as fate ymir frizt. But she's very better. She becomes villain cause protect her son and daughter. Different ymir
If i were a slave, i would damn well cling to the person basically giving me a chance to survive and live a somewhat happy life. Rashta is trying to survive thus she of course uses her looks to get someone to provide for her.
She kill her saver…
Yeah that much was enough , she could use that affection to get an education and the financial help to create a business of her own.
But she was a copycat and even a gaslighter trying to paint Navier as a vile and jealous woman that would attack her while in fact that was never the case . Navier just ignored her.
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"get an education and the financial help to create a business of her own"
in that world? You joking right? XD
@@marcoboscarol2420 she was already prone to scheming so she could use Sovieshit's affection to get more knowledge (about the way the kingdom worked ,read , businesses). What i mean is that she could use her privileges to her advantage rather than plotting the downfall of another woman ,we must remember , that didn't do her any harm . The only thing Navier did was ignore her and given the circumstances, she was legitimate to do so. That was the "classiest" thing to do she didn't lash out on her "rival" as Rashta was trying to picture her .
She made POOR choices when she could have improved her life with the subtle power she acquired.
To sum it up , if she used the energy to hurt Navier into building something for herself , she would have been better off (with or without Sovieshit).
I think some Rashta fans forget or want to forget her behavior with her servants and her own people when she had the opportunity to make some changes. In both cases , she hurted the servants treating them like "less than" . And she didn't even try to improve the life of the people that were in the sole situation as her old self. Was she obligated to do all of that , to act like that ? NO
She chose the evil path and that's exactly why people don't like her .
That's not that complicated
@@sakuraxworld4566and navsty doesn't anything abolish slavery. And she defend her genocides husband, rape grooming child ersghit and abuse liked levetti. Cruel your navsty
I still am irked by Trashta, especially in later chapters. But you also have to take a closer look at Lebetti because in later chapters, you see she gives rockstar fangirl levels to Navier. Hearing Lebetti talk of the Empress' kindness, compassion, overall awesomeness- It's no wonder Rashta uad a skewed idea of Navier and it starts the copycat spiral.
Remember people getting mad at me for saying i didn't care that a slave girl was the mitress to a king and ruining the main characters happinesses. They attacked me for 4 days and 4 nights.
Because the fanatics see Navier as their Lord and saviour 😔
They could make a religion out of this
Wtf!? That's just messed up I'm really sorry you got attacked for that. It must've been horrible..
you support home wrecking ofc you’re a horrible person.
So Navier is infertile because she ate a cookie as a child? How is this an actual plot point LMAO
Trust me this is not the only plot hole in the story
So we forgot that rashta constantly tried to frame navier of hurting her, the people she ordered kill, her treatment of everlie, throwing her baby down, deceiving her "adoptive parents." It isn't that crazy for people dislike, but it is the hatred is very OVERINFLATED
If you compare Rashta's actions to Sovieshu's actions, the difference is sky high.
Rashta's attempt of framing Navier is not the same with Sovieshu attempting to break Navier's heart, meanwhile toying around with Rashta's heart and feelings. What Sovieshu had was never love and it shows through his actions.
Oh its great that you're sponsered now matty! I dont hate rashta personally as i've only read the novel and she was a complicated person where i could see her side of the story and why she did what she did even if it wasnt great i did understand her. So i dont understand why she has gotten so much hate in the manwha, very few who have read the novel hates her🤷♀️
I was so bamboozeled why everyones rage in the webtoon was directed at rashta and not sovieshu despite him being the one to take in a mistress and disregard her feelings?
That's the sad reality of webtoon, so much sexism and internalized misogyny. She's a great side villain and very interesting character wise, but she get extreme hate so unnecessarily for being an evil woman in the story despite the men are actually the real villain all along.
I support womens rights AND wrongs
edit: chat... her campus has a great article about this if y'all wanna read up on what this means 😭😭.
Oh? 😧
Huh😅?
Oh...
Ok NO PLEASE 👍I only support women who are in the right :)
YEAA!!! That’s that good energy we want when it comes to fictional stories !!
You know Rashta reminds me of Sakura from Naruto. She was overhated due to being childish in front of Naruto and a crybaby in front of Sasuke.
Yet Hinata was overrated and worshipped to the extreme like Navier was, due to being "supportive and helpful" and was loyal to Naruto like Navier was with Sovieshu.
But obviously, the only reason Sakura was hated and became worse just like Rashta, was because she was the weaker being. They both fell in love with a man that took advantage of them ( Sasuke and Sovieshit), they have been absent and dismissive towards them, even when they got pregnant because they had zero interest in them.
And I used to hate them too, but in the end I just felt really bad for both of them, because they were actual victims.
They had so many inferiority complexes, with Rashta living in the shadow of Navier and Sakura living under the shadow of Hinata.
And the fans still made Rashta's character similar to Sakura's character an irredemable monster that was only worth despised for existing.
Nail on the god damn head. Rashta is a tragic and fascinating character who's only crime is internalized misogyny.
edit: also like to add that Heinrey is a far bigger gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss than Rashta could ever be and I'm sick of his UWU shtick around Navier!
Rashta was always an interesting and complex character to me because like??? She absolutely has the typical tragic female lead backstory and motivation? She’s been through a lot and (at least near the beginning) her main motivation is to survive and keep herself and her baby safe. I felt super bad for her!! She isn’t a perfect person, she isn’t the smartest or strongest, and she doesn’t always know how to handle the things thrown at her, but to me that was what made her human. Seeing her so completely despised was really jarring, especially when sovieshu seems to not receive half of the vitriol thrown at Rashta.
So many people want complex female characters, but the second they aren’t the protagonist/love interest girlbossing their way through the plot they’re ripped apart without hesitation.
I read a story where the fl is just like rashta (without the slavery) and the fl was a maid who was seducing the emperor for survival
Oh yeah maid to queen right? Yeah I didn't like it when I first saw it though, feels kinda weird about it
Unpopular opinion: Rashta is much lore complex than Navier. And I don't know if the author wanted it to be that way. Probably not.
Shouldn't be unpopular, Navier is boring as sin.
@@mr.protagonist5639she Mary Sue liked the roboct
Lowkey love rashta. She's, again, complex and I love to hate her because she's the villain. Wish they did her character better tho
I wouldn't say I hate her, but do I strongly dislike her? Absolutely, yes.
She is a victim of her circumstances and I pity her a lot, the amount of trauma she went through is insane. She was used by men all her life and is getting no help, not even from Sovieshu. That being said, I have a lot of mixed feelings about her. Just like Navier, she cant escape her position. But Navier even tried to be the bigger person when she got divorced, lending help to her before leaving instead of hating on her or creating a fuss.
Rashta does nothing to retribute herself. She acts petty towards Navier, instigates conflicts, punishes people unfairly - all for her own gain and even goes on to instigate more than one m*rder. She could have been better prepared for her position, but Sovieshu (who I deem responsible for that, as a husband and a ruler) does nothing to help her, only cleaning up after her without communicating with her. As it stands, she never had a chance to become a good empress and her downfall is inevitable.
These are exactly my thoughts on Rashta. She doesn't deserve the amount of unbridled hate that she gets, but she's still not a good person. And her stupid actions just makes it all the more frustrating.
Exactlyy
@@thelemurofmadagascar9183her stupid actions are stemmed from trust issues and inferiority complex that she had from her traumas that had been accumulated for years.
The only reason why sovieshu never really prepare her for her empress position and only cleaned her mess quietly without ever reprimanded her or discipline her is because of sovieshu solely uses her for bearing his child and planned to discard her after his child is born, so he can remarry with navier without ever get worried about successor. Rashta being so drunk on power as the empress without proper education or at least moral compass only smoothing sovieshu's plan. Plus she's been egging on by duke ergi and lotteshu, unaware that she's being manipulated by them. Her trust issues and her obsession in seeking external validation and happiness for herself are the biggest reason for her inevitable downfall.
Totalmente de acuerdo
@@gracequeeney3399 And yet there are a lot of stupid decisions that she made that had nothing to do with her trust issues or inferiority complex. She was just plain dumb. No matter how long she was in the palace for, she didn't gain any knowledge or intelligence. She just kept making one bad decision after another, even putting morals aside.
It's not just her though, I notice a lot of authors make their villain characters stupid, probably because it's too much work to make them intelligent.
The frightening reality of slavery is that you truly don't have a choice on how you live. Realistically, Rashta absolutely would've been a tragic mc constantly being used and taken advantage of by every person in power around her. Especially by Sovieshu. (I do not believe it's ethical to have romance with a slave)
Sovieshu is not held a accountable enough. Everyone holds the "mistress" acountable but not the husband that keeps getting with the same slave.
27:33 Death note reference!!
Thank you so much. For all the while I was reading the webtoon (i haven't finished it), I could'nt help but to be midly annoyed at Rashta, OUTRAGED at Sovieshit's appearance, and not understanding the violent hatred toward Rashta. I knew she was mean, petty, annoying and REALLY STUPID; but that wasn't enough for me to ACTUALLY hate her. So thank you for your 'unpopular opinion' 🤗😄
YES back when I was a regular Webtoon reader I always found her such an interesting and often tragic, desperate character and it really rubbed me the wrong way how the commenters viewed her - it seemed that Navier got away with manipulations and digs that Rashta would get viciously criticised for - not to mention not one reader seemed willing to dissect the system of institutionalised slavery and classism which Navier and the other nobles certainly adhered to, if not endorsed...
It feels like a kind of protagonist bias where people are unwilling to analyse the actions of the protagonist through a critical lens, and anyone who gets in the way of the protagonist, no matter their motivations or circumstances, is automatically a terrible person.
I don't think it takes a degree in rocket surgery to figure out the reason why Rashta's hate is so much louder than Sovieshu's is because she's a woman, not necessarily that she's not a girl's girl. If she was one she'd still be hated. She's a woman and she stands as the derision between what the story frames as the Truth (the relationship between Sovieshu and Navier) and the reality that no one in this fucking story knows what the word communication is. If it was a man-- not even in a relationship with Sovieshu, just a dude who stood to gain from their divorce-- people would be flocking to him as a masterclass villain.
100% it's this. She made the fatal mistake of being a woman "stealing another woman's man." I would totally become a concubine to a handsome caring man if I was in slavery and exposed to every element, man made and nature made, if it meant I could be safe from those things.
Yeah, the hate she gets most be carried over from the original novel.
I personally the Rashita hate is forced another reason why people probably hate her is the mental reflex to be influenced by other’s opinions and more so she was put as a main antagonist which obviously gives Soveishu breathing space from those who don’t observe in detail 🤷🏾♀️
Rashta is just one instance of apparent classism in Webtoon creators... Over and over again I see key antagonists from common or poor backgrounds who have moved upward in society one way or another, when the protagonist is nobility (or in the case of The Golden Spoon, the 'good guy' foil to the morally questionable protagonist). It's more than a little gross.
OMG YES when I first read remarried empress I thought to myself "Her actions are bad but I can see why she does those things" I quttied after like 10th ep but OMG TY
I think the problem in the remarried empress is... Navier is a Mary sue. And every character that likes Navier can be a slave owner, a wannabe child murderer, or tyrant who commits war crimes, and they will still be in the right, and anyone who is against Navier can be a literal helpless slave, and they will always be in the wrong.
She is a girl's girl and has the other traits that make her the perfect wife for Sovieshu.
Rashta was never a girl's girl and she was made to be the most hated villain, because of her flaws but if kept in mind that she was essentialy also taken advantage of by Sovieshu, she was a tragic character similarly like Navier was but not the same as her.