2024 Integra Type S Vs 2023 Honda Civic Type R Which One Should You Buy ?
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In this video we do a side by side comparison of the 2024 Acura Integra Type S Vs the 2023 Honda Civic Type R and we test drive the Type S to help figure out which is the better car for you to purchase right now. #AcuraIntegraTypeS #FL5TypeR #Racecarfriends
I like both of these vehicles, but obviously we see where I’m at. I agree with you on the fact that it would be CRAZY to have both. I think we have a Type S joining the MOC soon and the best way to find out which is the better on the track I guess we’ll have to see. Great review I’m glad you got to get exclusive access to the Type S . Probably the first on RUclips to have both the Type S and Type R line up together. LETS GOO 🔥🔥🔥‼️
Thanks brother I think Savagese had the both of them together first but I get what you mean they are a huge channel compared to mine that is currently on the rise alongside the whole MOC. I'm excited for Que to get his and for you to add on your next vehicle to your channel and to see what Bluprint does as well, the next couple of months are going to be extremely interesting.
I'm 43 with two kids and in the process of buying the type s. I love the car, it's a better street car that can be tracked. The type R is a better track car because the suspension is 20% stiffer in all the different modes. But watch savagegeese they tracked the type s and dyno it, it has more torque because of the tune an hp. He has a type R and says that when the tires wear down on both cars after a few laps on the track the type S probably could win the race because it is showing to be faster in the straight aways already. Either way both are great cars you can't lose. Oh an the type R will def holds its value better because there will be less and they're badged like you said.
Agreed, something to take note of though even though the suspension is tighter in the Honda, the seats in the Acura aren't as comfortable to sit in, the seats actually feel harder and stiffer lol (The felt weird typing but it's true).
Really, the less expensive Honda would cost most in later years than the flashier TypeS?
Thought the TypeS have an even more sicker cult following than the TypeR crew?
When I heard that exhaust on the Type S - I was like damn son, now that's a nice note for sure!
Yeah man that thing sounds amazing!
Not neutered, not muffled. Just raw flow.
I wonder how much putting the valvetronic exhaust in the TypeR will cost? But you can just sell your TypeR exhaust on the market and recoup some money back eh
So I’ve owned a 2018 type R for 3 years and drove only on R mode. I just upgrade to a type S. Basically it doesn’t corner as good as the Type R. Maybe 20-25% reduction. Confort hands down amazing. But coming from someone that handling is more important… ima try to upgrade suspension so I can have the best of both worlds… keep u posted
Nice looking forward to hearing how you like it after the mods are done.
That S is so dope . Reminds me of an Evo or STi .
It does, it would be awesome if they brought back both the STI and EVO as ICE cars.
@@RaceCarFriends I agree . I miss both cars so much .
@@Nick-hz2kl Same here brother!
Bro how can you not talk about the suspension. Litterally everyone who drove the FL5 says its too bouncy. Suspension in the type R is way too stiff, exaust sound is atrocious compared to Type S, interior built quality is cheaper so you get more road noise when cruising on the highway, no lumbar adjustement for your lower back, the fake engine noise from the cabin sound like a lawnmower and its lacking some tech features (heated seats, etc). In my opinion, the strength of the Type R are the notoriety of the name, the trunk (hatchback), the headroom in the back is better than in the Type S, the 30 pounds less, and it might be better in term of reliability in the long run. I have personnally made 3 different deposits for a Type-R here in Canada but I think I will go with the Type-S since im not the biggest Track guy and the car itself might be a little bit less rare since its only sold in North America compared to the Type-R.
TBH I've only felt the bounciness in R mode and on certain roads, but it drives pretty smoothly in sport mode, the Type R definitely has some flaws, but the amount of fun I have driving it makes up for the little things it's missing.
You can buy the Type S damper control module and swap it into the FL5. Boom, less harsh suspension.
@@bazgab2738 Bam solution!
Because he's review is biased. You can never be honest when you bought the other car and you subconsciously trying to justify the purchase
Yeah and type RS look alot like regural civics
Imo the Type R is better looking and I prefer the interior and the navi like you said great video bro you helped me decide which one I'm going to get.
Haha wow I thought more people would be choosing the Type S happy to see so many of you liking the Type R.
@@RaceCarFriends I'm 65 and love Hondas (I've had 2 dozen Honda motorcycles and half a dozen Honda or Acura cars). I absolutely prefer the Type S but only because it's more "mature", so I agree with victorjoa8035. I just went on the waitlist at my Acura dealer and I just sold my 2020 BMW M2 Comp to buy the Integra. I just wish they'd squeeze that motor in an S2000 replacement, which remains one of my favorites.
The navi is here and there to be honest.
I used it use it on my initially but after sometime the Waze app via Android auto, makes me forget the car even came with navigation as a default.
So I don't really think it should be a deciding factor.
The car also has wireless charging, so even if your phone's battery dies, you can quickly charge it up in the car and connect the car to it ASA0
You feel higher in the Integra because the Type R has actual racing seats. You still sit low in the Integra, it’s just not as low as the Type R. The trunk space is longer on the integra. I feel like the Integra will be pretty close if not better on the track.
We gotta do a full side side comparison when you get yours that will be a really fun video to make and watch lol.
You guys need ro organize a head to head where you race the TypeR against the TypeS on your home track and then we know.
The TypeS is memorable but the TypeR snaps necks
In California, I was quoted by the 3 Acura dealership 10k-20k USD over MSRP + 5k- 8k in accessories for the type S! Four Honda dealerships quoted 10k-30k USD over MSRP plus 5k-9k in accessories for the type R...
There were numerous dealerships that refused to quote prices unless I made an appointment!!!
Wow that's insane! Come to Florida to buy your Type R or Type S bro!
I stopped reading at "In California..." because that state should just fall off the country with their ridiculous markups.
@@RobertoMezquiaJr California is a tough place to live for several different reasons.
Aww man I ghought Que was gonna be in this video! Good stuff bro
😆😆😆 I got 2 more weeks left. I went to go see mines today. They didn’t put the accessories on yet
Thanks brother and yeah Que will be getting his Type S after the 19th I believe then it's on, you down to do a meet in North Carolina?
@@QueTheChaotic Lol did you test drive it? 👀
@@RaceCarFriends nope. Saving that for my ownership
@@QueTheChaotic Man I can't wait to see that first drive and taking delivery video!!!!
Great video, both cars appeal to different audiences. They are similar under the hood (engine wise). The Acura is a bit more upscale and more like a gentleman’s car between the two. I’m glad you finally agreed the Type S is more aggressive looking between the two 😎. If we met sorrel and buss up shot on me my Caribbean brother lol. The tire pressure feature like the salesman said is standard on Acura. Honda just depends on the car.
Hahaha thanks brother we definitely gotta meet up for sorrel and Roti sometime!
I kind of disagree with that cause onky the TypeR packs a wing and nothing in the world says Rebel/Aggressor like a over rear ring.
I agree with you.
Appreciate the comparison. I spent the whole day yesterday with both cars and ended putting a deposit down on the Integra Type S.
No worries and congratulations!
So we have a type R built for track with navi to navigate around a track vs a type S made to be driven without a navi. Type S it is.
Yup can't go wrong with the Type S it really is an amazing car!
I pick the type s… better looks… interior .. more features.. I can live without gps.. and that exhaust melts my heart🔥❤️.. I do like the seats in the type r better.
Yes finally saw your comment! And yeah brother I feel similarly.
Type R exhaust sounds like a Prius and the Type S exhaust sounds like a Hellcat. I’m happy I got my ITS for MSRP in California 😊
Hellcat??
Lol good times.
@@whosdondada 😆😆😆😆😆😆
@@whosdondada I admit that I may be a bit overzealous and biased with that analogy.
How did you get it at MSRP!
I have Type S, before was looking Type R same color you has, but prices about Type R with the market adjustment was closer to Type S MSRP price,, and sales manager not accepting any deal straight to MSRP , so decided for Type S and not have any complaints about,, I sold a Porsche Macan 2018 , to get it,,, The Type S still on the same class of cars I had before with more power
Yeah I know what you mean, in all honesty it probably would have been more cost effective for me to go with the Type S TBH but the Type R had the color I really wanted that was the main reason I went Type R when I did, I feel like dealers are starting to relax on the market adjustments now though.
I just got one..too...but she's gas thirsty aren't they??
wow for almost 60k no navigation lol. acura is trippen with their 7500 "market adjustment" on the Type S. $60K for a 320 hp FWD car is a pass for me. this car should be below 50k. no rear vents, no rear power source, no 360 cams, no blind spot cams. Acura could have done so much more with this car, When they announced this car i was ecstatic to buy one and once the car specs came out i went in a whole other direction. its s 5.7 second car lol. i realize its not all about the specs, i undertstand the legacy that comes with the nameplate but for the price there is so many better sports sedans to chose from.
I agree, I cant find fault with anything you said here.
The Type S has a resonator delete from the factory hence the difference in sound.
Yup I am thinking about just doing the same thing to the Type R what do you think?
@@RaceCarFriends I would definitely do it. Or a more free flowing resonator at least.
@@BoostLee. Yup I think I just might.
Integra also has a different tune
Yes, it’s the different tune that make pops. The exhaust is basically same minus small resonator. If you delete the small resonator, ctr will not sound the same nor have the pops. If you swap your ctr exhaust to type s exhaust, it will not sound like ITS, it will just be louder.
I saw someone on marketplace trying to sell their Type s for 60k(down from 70k...)
...I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.
Lol wow crazy!
If you aren't interested in tracking the car or buying an FL5 but still want a K20C1 powered manual liftback, and don't want the TLX-S ($57k msrp); get the ITS.
But without the accessories and with discounts.
I agree.
Tell me you are trying to justify your purchase without TELLING me you are trying to justify your purchase 😂
Not sure I agree cause I went in with the mentality of if I liked it more than the Type R I'd buy the Type S but there's just too many things that I prefer in the Type S, I can definitely understand the Type S being the better car for other people though, just not for me. Side note the Type S is a gorgeous vehicle though I'm happy it exists.
@@RaceCarFriends I'm just messing with you man, but it's also impossible to be fully impartial when comparing a car you daily to a car viewed as a "competitor"
The CTR is a track car, not a good daily driver, the Integra is ok on the track, but makes a much nicer daily.
the price is almost the same, where can I buy CTR for MSRP today?
Anywhere?, Nope, it's 5 to 10k mark up on the type r, making it 49 to 55k$ fir the CTR, vs 52k for the integra.
If you do go to the tack and this isn't a daily, then the CTR is great.
I don't go to the track, I just like a nice cruiser.
For me, the ITS, but to each his own, I do like them both.
I approve this message lol.
Love the front end of the Type R and the rear of the Type S. Picked up a champ white CTR and in the process of convincing the old man to get a ITS 😂
Ahh man you guys are winning big time!! Congrats brother!
I like the Acura love the body style and looks all around
The Acura really is beautiful.
my pick type R all days of the week 👍👍👍
Good choice!
Type r win in every thing in my opinion, accept exhaust sound 😅 type s sound amazing 😻
Man that Type S sounded so good, I wanted to do an exhaust swap immediately lol.
Great review brother !! I haven’t seen many of these reviews yet
Thanks brother I appreciate the love 🙏🏿
Love the review bro good job. But I have to pick the type S. I think it just looks better and sure the sets aren’t as comfy but aside from that the interior is a copy.
Thanks a lot and yeah you really can't go wrong with either car.
Bringing the #2 spot back to the BX!!💪💪
Nice and you beat out Que and Bluprint so here's your winnings good sir: 🥈🔵🔵
I feel that if you are between 18 and 30 you buy the type R, if you are older than 30 then you will buy the Type S. I personally think the type S is better overall but the type R has the strong brand behind it.
That sounds accurate, but it also depends on the color cause the Type R in Black or White looks very mature and grow up as well.
Well I’m 80-bought the 23 Type R in August; Type S never a contender. When I get older maybe I will consider a more grown up car but doubt it.
Precisely why I got the type S. Can’t live with the huge wing. Also a type s is better looking (subjective, I know) and a few more creature comforts like power and heated seats, els music system etc. it’s also got a better sounding exhaust on demand stock from the factory.
Hands up on whomever watched the entire video without skipping through? 👋 Common now 😅
Hahaha good one I feel like all the Honda/Acura enthusiasts are going to watch this one all the way through lol heck I even watched it all the way through twice before uploading lol.
@@RaceCarFriends - Yup. Took this one slowly as it was fun watching you decipher between the 2. Good stuff bruh ....
@@RDriver2.0 Thanks brother I appreciate you.
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This was a great video I watched it all the way through
Fl5 got them sleeper look into it 🥹 type s does look way more aggressive though😮. For some reason I think the simple and clean look of the fl5 got my attention. And when it come to exhaust sound , I gotta give it to the type S 🫡 chefs kiss 🤌🏼
I agree with you 100% I prefer the sleek look of the Type R, but I prefer the sound of the Type S.
@@RaceCarFriends right 🫡 it’s not overwhelming and it’s just the right amount of aggressiveness. I do love car that look fast but at the end of the day , ain’t nobody is going over speed limits anyway 😂
March 1 2024 you can walk into a dealer and pick up a type S at msrp many on The lot
I you can’t do that with type R. Markups are still there availability is not. Type R lighter and handles better and in theory supposed to be 5k cheaper too but otherwise Acura is better
Pretty spot on, I personally prefer the Type R but I agree with much of what you said here.
Mannnn I appreciate this video but I definitely favor the Acura Type S looks wise over the Honda Type R. The trunk space looks about the same but that could be the the design of the cars. The Type R interior is definitely better. It’s like I’m in a crux because even though the Type S is more aggressive but it’s more sedan looking vs the Type R is more sporty. That Log R is a game changer for me
Lol I think for you I'd recommend the Type R mostly for the seats, suspension and Log R.
@@RaceCarFriends it looks like I need to make a decision really quick and get that Z 👀 depending on which one
@@BLUPRINT1LE I think with you keeping the Camaro, the two best cars for you to get because of your 2 sons would be either a Golf R, or a WRX, I feel like you can make great content with either car, and if you get the Golf R you'll still be the fastest in the crew because the Golf R will smoke all the rest of all the tuner cars we have lol.
Last mont Jay Leno Garage had the Product Planning r: Jonathan Rivers and he talked about his inspiration from a car he use to own. That he let the Japanese engineers drive to replicate the burbles/crackles. 👍
Yeah I saw that that was an awesome video!
@@RaceCarFriends so the Ford Focus RS the engineers drove and they liked it’s burbles 👍
@@davidboyce6427 Yup it just goes to show how great that car was.
@@RaceCarFriends I’m a member ch What older gent with stiffness and arthritis but I’ve been a Honda head since 1989. I still rock my AWD 2005 RL during winters here in Michigan. And in Spring/Summer and Fall I’m lucky to have 2 TL TYPE S that I drive and shine them up👍
@@davidboyce6427 I love the older vehicles myself. I'm trying to get an old school as we speak.
Type R is my choice. Type S is a nice alternative if you don’t want to pay crazy markup. Type R is subtle with sleek body style. I want a smaller sporty hatch which civic is not that either but integra looks like a big sedan like any other Acura cars. Doesn’t look anything like a hatchback. Type R is built in Japan. Not a fan of the wheels and although it doesn’t look bad, it looks like an afterthought with tacked on fender flares and other body parts. Interior features are nice but doesn’t look as good as type r interior. Type r is very simple and elegant vs type s has too much going on and busy. Exterior is same as the interior. Someone said if you are under 30 you get the type r and if you are over 30 get type S. I feel that type s looks more for younger crowd as it has more over styling going on like FK8 with louder exhaust
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Both cars are great. There are overprices with the markup. Save your money for a used one later in the future
Makes sense.
I like the interior of the Type R and exterior of the Type S 👍
Yup same here.
Yes
Back in that number 1 spot it's 100GangNation!!! 🥇🏆
RD
DAMN when trying to not let that work thingy get in the way of your placement.....🤔
Wretched work getting in the way of podium wins! 😡
@@RaceCarFriends - 😆 🤣
Type R= casual Friday
Type S= night at the Ball tuxedo night.
Agreed.
Id take a type s over the type r for a street daily but if i was gonna track the car also id take the type r over the s
Same.
I like the way the Type R looks better.
Same.
You point out that Type S isn't a hatchback, there is actually type S lift back variant, so you actually have options to choose from. And none of these cars are true hatchbacks, they are long family sedans same size as camry and Accord and k5, they just have lift back. Type S for the win for me. Most people will never take type R to the track so the seats don't really matter, plus you can always do driver seat swap to a bucket seat if you taking it to track which is going to be rare since everyone is so precious about their cars they don't want to beat them up so they going to daily them and seats in Type R aren't great for that. Another thing you mentioned that since Type S doesn't come with navigation and if you get lost and no cell signal, well Google maps and apple maps work of gps not cell so if you download maps you'll be good to go. You'd get lost even more using honda GPS. And you get carbon mirror caps which is nice touch. It's much better over all vehicle. No matter how hard you trying to justify it, we all know that Type S is upgraded Type R
Yup to each their own there's a lot of awesome cars out there that fit different people.
@@RaceCarFriendsType S has lift back option too like type R btw
@@i.d.6492 Oh wow cool that's whats up.
I’ve seen all 3 on the road and I prefer the FK8 TypeR in terms of looks. The typeS looks sweet but too expensive imho.
It would be even nicer if the Type S sold for 45k that's for sure.
I would have gotten the type r but I'm a dealer and no one around me will sell one for less than 20k over sticker. Picking up my type s Wednesday at msrp so ended up being over 10k cheaper
You just even solidified my wish of copping a Boost Blue Type R after my FE1 Si.
The rawness it seems to provide over the TypeS and the badging sorts of makes it a better buy.
Community-wise, i dont know if the TypeR community is even cooler and more tighly knit than the TypeS Community
Awesome I'm happy we were able to help you solidify which car works best for you, I know I'm extremely happy with my Type R so I feel like you will be as well.
The Civic type-r exhaust is horrible compared to the Type-S it's a shame that they put such a weak exhaust on a sportscar the Type-S sounds a thousand times better
Yup agreed.
Im super torn. I love the Type Rs wing but the Integra has more creature comforts and a better ride quality for dialy driving.
I agree one thing to consider though the Type R has stiffer suspension but way more comfortable seats compared to the Type S.
FL5 better car my opinion will hold a stronger resale value too being a number car.
If you think dealerships go around looking at the number plate on the R and actually put a single ounce of weight into it, then let me tell you about this bridge I have for sale.
@@RobertoMezquiaJr 😆😆😆😆
@@RobertoMezquiaJr my opinion brother what dealers asking have nothing to do with me. I got my FL5 at MSRP. I personally think the FL5 will be more desirable not saying ITS isn’t a good car witch would you choose was the question and why I gave my answer.
I honestly feel like they will both hold their values really well, the Type S really is a special moment in time kind of car.
@@SnoopiFL5 absolutely. For collectors the FL5 will bring in more money. Time will tell how the DE5 will hold up. I will say that this is the first time I don't care about resale value when buying a car. Can't go wrong either way.
Get the 2024 Golf R for your 3rd car. Type S is too similar to the Type R. Plus you can get the Golf R in Dual clutch transmission. They updated the infotainment for 24 model
Oh wow I didn't know that about the updated infotainment system for 24, is that a for sure thing?
@@RaceCarFriends yes, you can check it out. They took out the haptic feed back on the steering wheel, now has physical buttons. Infotainment is now a huge screen. Think it’s 14” but research the 24 Golf R. It’s mild update but much needed. Also you have 2 manuals already, so a dual clutch will fit the line up nice 👍
@@adrianesteves3260 That is amazing news! gonna go check it out now thanks!
Type S for me
Not a bad way to go for sure!
I enjoyed this video RCF I feel like you were trying to spare the Acura guys feelings in this video I think that the Type R is better looking inside and out and the only thing that the Integra has on the Honda is the louder exhaust and 5hp which can easily be fixed in the aftermarket Honda Civic Type R wins!
Lol tbh I tried to be as honest and as unbiased as I could be in this video, they are both great cars but the Type R fits me a bit better.
Type R fanboy alert 🤡
@@i.d.6492 Lol be nice.
@@i.d.6492don’t hate lol we all have our opinions and I respect theirs. Personally I love the Type S but like I said I respect there opinions.
What was the markup over MSRP?
On the Type S?
Yes.
What’s the point if you don’t drag race it
I'll be taking mine to the track very soon.
Quey
Yay you made it, and you beat out Ant so here you go 🔵🔵
Prefer the FK8 over both of these.
Wow for real? Can you explain why?
Bro you can never be honest and unbiased when you bought the other vehicle and daily it
You're probably right.
Why would I spend $50k to $70k+ on a rebranded Civic, when I could buy a low mile RS3 or CLA45 AMG...and smoke this? 😆🤔
Manual gearbox? 🤔
Lighter and more nimble in the twisties, if you value that, straight line speed, no
@@RaceCarFriends Good point.
@@jacktaylor2472 Both the RS3 and CLA45 AMG are very nimble even with that weight.
In the end of the day, these 2 models are living in the shadow of FK8. FL5 is like the matured version of FK8, the Type-S is like the angry version of FK8 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻
I had an FK8. Amazing car but it's lacking many features of the FL5 and especially the DE5. I miss my FK8 which is why I'm waiting on a DE5
Always have to pay homage to those that came before.
Whats going on brother! Your the perfect person to chime in on this, I feel like the Type S would be the perfect car with the Type R seats and interior, and just add navigation, and if it came with AWD that would put it over the top. But nothing is perfect so it's awesome that both vehicles exist I feel like right now the Type R is more for the track focused person and the Type S is for the business professional that likes to go fast and maybe hit the track every now and then as well.
@@RobertoMezquiaJr I have 21 type R I bought it because I love the way it looks. It’s very subjective when it comes to how a car looks to different person. By comparing FL5 and FK8, I prefer FK8 because I own it, lol… but if I can turn back time, I will still get a FK8 because I just like the way 10th gen looks. If your point of getting one of these car is because of features, I think you have many other alternative than Honda at similar price tag. To me, I buy what I like, the features will always be the second consideration. If put aside FK8, comparing FL5 and DE5, I will take the FL5. I will buy a car for its uniqueness, it’s either over-styled, or a clean tidy car.
@@tiduschenable your comment is a little confusing to me. But as @RaceCarFriends mentioned, we're just happy to have options. Unfortunately there's not a single car at this price point, brand new, that matches the DE5 in fun factor, 6MT, and tech. If you could compile a list for me, I'm open to taking a look at those options. Also, no German cars for me, just not my thing.
11th
Just happy you made it.
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3rd but more importantly you beat out both Que and Ant so here you go brother! 🥉🔵🔵
@@RaceCarFriends You gotta start giving 🟣🟣for beating Que. 😂
@@RaceCar21 LMAO facts here you go! 🟣🟣
@@RaceCarFriends 🤣🤣🤣
Painted yourself in a corner and reaching throughout the video trying to convince yourself the Type R is better. Lol 🧢🧢🧢
Lol not really in most ways the Type S is the better vehicle, but for me personally I prefer the interior of the Type R.
JHFTC
Haha you earned your JHFTC today lol
Acura wanna be type rs lol
Lol
Get rid of the ugly ass Subaru. I have a boost blue FL5 and I looked at the Type S. Was not impressed with the overall look of the car. The fender flares were glued on the car and not integrated like the Type R in the back Also the seats felt cheap. Was not impressed. Still, I would get rid of the Subaru. To much plastic in my opinion.
I wasn't a fan of the seats in the Type S but it's an awesome car, and man I love my Subaru that car is one of the best driving cars I've ever owned and I've owned several STI's, Camaro SS 1LE's, and a bunch of other sports cars and trucks as well.
@RaceCarFriends It's really that comfortable? I had a STI myself and I got rid of it after 2 months because it road terrible.
Made in Japan vs made in USA… type r few :)
Very true.