@@samuelfagbemi8851 because almost all sports in America are dominated by mostly black athletes. It’s true they’re genetically stronger and faster but it doesn’t mean that white people can’t compete either.
It's a shame that any man or woman has to be discriminated against, period. I wonder what we could accomplish in this world if let this color bullshit go. Sadly, I'll never know in my lifetime.
Great FKn Comment, That Bs Never Ends, I Understand What Jerry Quarry (God Rest His Soul) Ment. I Can Say More, but The Way things are in this Beautiful Country for Too many years, it's Just Not Worth it.
Jerry was hardly a racist, he ate and trained with black men and when he fought Patterson and Frazier there was no animosity about race. With Ali race is going to come up. Ali was too political for my taste👎
Jerry quarry did about the best impersonation of Muhammad Ali have ever heard, I’m sure that if he were racist and hated black people he wouldn’t be doing an imitation like that , vicious rumor that was started by Ken Norton who hated Jerry he was an egomaniac by the way
@End Racism 2k17 I remember Quarry saying he'd sue Norton, if he called him a 'racist', in public. Jerry was not a racist. He and Ali, actually liked each other. Norton and anyone saying that, was spreading bullshit.
@@samuelfagbemi8851no its not. im black and what he says applys soooo much more now than ever. the liberal party has brainwashed everyone to think its ok to be racist agandt white people
@@trudeausbackbone1304 Lol of tons of white Europeans have got shots at the heavyweight title and won. Jerry got a shot at the heavyweight title and lost. He usually lost when he stepped up in class. Quarry was just a low IQ racist white who got beat upside the head so much he suffered brain damage.
They just don't like the fact that black boxers beat him up nothing he said was logical... He fought Ali and Frazier two times each and they beat the hell out of him. He fought Norton... what is he talking about?
Watch the classic film "Fat City" (1972) Actor/Director/Producer Nicholas Colasanto, in his performance as a trainer gives explanation of which fighters are the biggest draw and why.
If you grew up in this era, you might have a better understanding of the topic of racial pride. The Native, "Colored" and Chicano and "Oriental" grade school through high school kids had no representation, in our text books nor holidays nor notable calendar days. Meanwhile my Caucasian brothers and sisters had a ready made sense of pride, with Washington and Lincoln's Birthdays, Columbus Day, St. Patrick's Day etc. And I remember all of my classmates, being of many of races were instructed to craft decorations, wear green, eat pumpkin pie, etc. etc. Don't you see how unfair the educational system was? And why no one needed to remind "White people" of racial pride? Ali had a big mouth, and race baited by saying a lot of caustic stuff, usually in self promoting himself and his bouts. I don't like many of the things he said, but I still love him. He was sort of a counterbalance. By the way; I do not believe Jerry Quarry was a racist.
@Tucker Johnson Ali was a black person who hated segregation and Jim Crow. Was he supposed to happy in that society, his friend Malcom x had his parents killed by white southerners
@@Philotheist777 Muhammad Ali belonged to the Nation of Islam which supported racial segregation. The nation of islam was so nice to black people they murdered Malcolm X.
@@Philotheist777 He surely did not lose to every black fighter that mattered. Quarry beat Floyd Patterson, Ernie Shavers, Buster Mathis, Ron Lyle, and Mac Foster - all contenders, as well as Patterson being the former world heavyweight champ.
From what I have read, Jerry Quarry's early life was not terribly different from those of the majority of black boxers he faced, so the way I see it, he was probably right to question the status quo at the time..
Quarry discriminated against? He got a title shot vs both Frazier and Ellis. He got 2 big fights with Ali, Frazier, and one with Norton. Quarry was a solid contender with wins over Lyle, Shavers, Spencer, and Mac Foster. As far as Foreman.....one moment he says he ducks Quarry then in the interview after his 5-6 fighter exhibition Foreman said that Quarry was scared and didn't want none (If memory serves me correctly). As far as Ali's political statements, those were met with mixed views in the Black American community. Back to Quarry......he won big fights and lost big fights. That cost him title shots nothing else.
I agree with this completely. I think George is being magnanimous…but I do think that his team may have thought that the Quarry who had destroyed Shavers and outboxed Lyle was not the best match up for their new Champ at that point…Jerry had title shots and he had fights that were he to win he’d have gotten a title shot….he just didn’t match up against the top heavies of the 70s but did match up uncommonly well against other contenders who DID match up well with the top heavies of the 70s.
@@JimmyPlato1 so did Ken Norton and Ron Lyle. They won and lost fights just like Quarry. It would have been great had he fought Quarry, but no one outside of Ali was beating Foreman.
@@decristo1021 I think I got your logic. Styles makes fight. Quarry beats a lot of contenders, but got carved up Ali, Frazier, and Norton. He got a questionable decision win vs Patterson and a draw in 1st fight.
@@percyvaughan A fair statement and you are probably right. But Jerry in his prime had both speed and power, and at that time Big George really was not hit that much. So Quarry was perhaps the only fighter, other than Ali, who had a real chance against Foreman. But unfortunately, us fans did not get a chance to see it. I put Big George in the top 5 of all time.
Sadly, he would be cancelled today because of his views of which I agree with wholeheartedly. Society has become soft and the far-left are calling the shots today.
Quarry started crying about so called “reverse racism” after his victories over Lyle and Shavers. He was informed that he wouldn’t get a title shot against then champion George Foreman because Muhammad Ali (who’d stopped Quarry TWICE) would be next in line and Jerry would have to wait. Quarry went on to fight Joe Frazier, who many people thought was a shot fighter at this point. Frazier gave Quarry a savage beating and basically made him QUIT in five rounds..that ended all of Jerry’s “reverse racism” crap!
True in 1974, true now. George Foreman openly admitted to not wanting to fight Quarry because he felt like Quarry had a style that could beat him if he fought the right fight. Joe Frazier had the balls of a lion and fought and beat Quarry twice without any special circumstances. Ali's second fight with Jerry was literally minutes after Jerry saw his brother stretchered out of the arena after Bob Foster nearly killed him with that left hook. Jerry literally fought Jimmy Ellis with a broken back.
@jjosephdubya I guess you know better than george himself, never knew racism was a super power! What he said was 100% true, even today look at fighters like Velasquez who has "Brown Pride" tattoo'd across his chest imagine if Brock Lesnar came in with "white Pride" tattoo'd across his the uproar would b unreal!
Fraziers handlers did not have balls of Iron and they did their job well until forced to fight Foreman. They even ducked an old but dangerous Sonny Liston. Bonavena who had decnt power Joe trouble. Fraziers handlers didn't match Joe with Lyle Shavers or even a post shooting version of Cleveland Williams, Frazier was a foil for runners like Ali Holmes or Jimmy Young. Like Norton a foil for boxers but chum for sluggers. Joe was a a great guy who kept it real opposite Ali who was a fraud and put on artist.
Please show me the part where I Hyped Quarry......I was commenting about Joe Frazier and Ali the fraud. I think being part of 5 fixes requires the title of Fraud. The two Liston FIxes The first fight was a fix per the FBI who was watching white guy point shaving and fight fixing gangster Ash Resnik who was Listons handler. They bugged Resniks phones and concluded the fix was in. The second lIston fight which only an Ali fanboy would believe was real. The two Ali Spinks fights based on another FBI investigation that is still sealed. The FBI is most likely waiting for Arum to die so he won't countersue after they say it was fixed. If they found nothing they would have said so. Please leave pathetic loser identity politics out of this. I dont think the greatest heavyweight was Marciano or any other white guy. I think Marciano was a fraud also. Quarry was never going to beat any slick boxers. He did beat Lyle and Shavers and gave Norton all he could handle. He won against Lyle and Shavers because both had endurence issues.
@jjosephdubya Jerry won the first 2 rounds against Ali in their second fight (mainly because Ali was not trying very hard and just feeling Jerry out) and perhaps drew round 2 in their first fight.
White men having been standing up for themselves? That’s new to me. I agree with quarry , white men should be proud and have that right to be. Just as do all nationalities and colors. That way we will have a bunch of proud people who want to empower each other rather than tear each other down.
Mr. Handsome systems are still very much in place and as you can see. The thoughts and feelings from years ago is still around. Time doesn’t heal things is they are not addressed and just made to believe don’t exist. Just bc you sweep dirt under a carpet and can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there.
Mr. Handsome think about what you just said about labeling people the wrong way based on prejudice , insinuations, stereotypes or whatever. Then think about the kid who just got killed for jogging and people Labeled him as a thief. You said it yourself. It is wrong that “they” label.
Mr. Handsome that’s very much me. You don’t seem to be disrespectful and appreciate that. I respect your opinion but just don’t agree with the concept the racism left with the people from the bc 1800’s. Racism is still very much Alive, but I respect you for having a decent convo with no trash talk. I’m half black and half White.
Mr. Handsome I get what your saying my friend. I understand your perspective. I don’t look back to the 1800’s when I can look back to the 1960’s . I mean just turn on the news today. To act like racism on all accounts isn’t real , to me,is egregious.. And when I mean racism I’m not just talking about white supremacy focused racism.
It was true then and is still true now. For example, Alan Minter is still accused of racism for making a comment about not losing his title to a black fighter back in 1980 (before his defence against Hagler. But in the last few years Bernard Hopkins made comments that he'll never lose to a "white boy", prior to his fight with Calzaghe. But this was quickly brushed aside as Bernard simply being Bernard, and everyone continues to sing his praises. For many, racism is only racism when it comes from white people.
Anytime Bernard loses to a white guy, his quote gets brought up so it wasn't brushed to side. Your literally taking two situations and reversing it. If anything, what Minter said gets brushed to the side.
Its bc the white ppl ALWAYS had the power, and the rssn why there were ppl oprressed, u don't know what it was like to be black growing up in those times
One rule for blacks one rule for whites it seems. Hopkins had no backlash for his racist comments, which made it all the sweeter when he got his ass kicked 3 times by "white boys" 😂😂😂.
You mean how that Russian boxer Kovalev has called black people monkeys numerous times and nobody said anything? Or how Conor McGregor also called black people monkeys and people still praise McGregor?
The media and politicians ( ironically mostly democrats who have always been racists) keep this a live and divide. People for the most part treat each other with respect on a daily basis.
Huge Quarry fan but Ali was a bad matchup for him. Tall long reach Jab and cut Jerry. Quarry was smart but stubborn. Bad management early in his career as well. Huge wins against Shavers and Lyle. Could have gave Foreman a decent fight because of his chin. But George Foreman jab might cut Jerry. Should have fought a rematch with Jimmy Ellis instead of Frazier. That was a bad move. Hard luck guy. Deserved a better fate.
Agree. If Foreman's camp had taken the Quarry fight after the Lyle and Shavers fights, I truly believe that Jerry could've won Foreman's title. Styles make fights. And, yes, he should've avoided a second fight with Frazier.
Jerry Quarry was a decent man and a terrific boxer. Fair go! He’s not attacking anyone just trying to stick up for himself. It’s probably not a great idea to talk about “the white man”....still, you know if reporters were to follow and tape what many people say in their everyday lives, we’d be looking at nothing but bloopers! Respect.
sticking up for himself by accusing others of r a c i s m? Sounds like sour grapes to me. He had his chances and lost every time what more did he want? Comparing himself to Ali like he comes from an O P P R E S S E D M I N O R I T Y.
Roc ROCA settle down mate.Muhammad Ali was openly racist. He was happy to discuss his position with anyone and he did on many occasions! Jerry Quarry was not wrong on that! Didn’t you know that? Maybe check out Ali’s many proclamations seeking the segregation of the races and claiming the white man was the blue eyed devil? Ali was a beloved person because he was authentic and honest in his position. He didn’t seek any violent solutions, just a separation of people’s. In regard to Jerry Quarry, perhaps have some respect for a softly spoken man, speaking up for himself,who also happened to be one of the top heavyweights of his day. Good luck to you and yours.
@@japsley6172 settle down and don't be confused, having an answer to the White racism they were going through now and then is not being a racist sir. Quarry was a bonafide real racist and not very bright with it. What happens when Blacks stay around racists is we keep getting shot. Ali supplied the solution.
@@japsley6172you're crazy, Ali wanted his people away from r a c i s ts , how is finding a solution to W h i t e r a c i s m racist!!!!!!! Did Ali just say those things when everyone lived harmoniously together? What about now? Do B l a c k s coexist happily with White people? At some point, W h i t e s will have to admit that they have an acute problem with r a c i s m. Jerry Quarry, on the other hand, started seeking special treatment when he lost all his shots for the title. Not having special treatment is racist to him in his teeny weeny mind. That's the story of W H I T E S U P R E M A C Y
Roc ROCA I loved Ali and grew up admiring him. Ali’s views were shaped by the Black Muslims. I’m. It saying I agree or disagree with. He was however advocating a physical segregation of whites and blacks. He was well recorded on several occasions talking about the blue eyed devils. Ali was a great presenter of these views as he did it with charm and passion without advocating violence. I think to say his statements aren’t racist is denial. Jerry Quarry, here, if you listen to him was responding to people criticising him for daring to voice opinions as a white man. The modern way seems to be to shut down and deny any opinion which doesn’t gel with the standard line. A healthy society allows open and free (respectful) discussion, even if we disagree with what is being said. There is no need to insult people.
Check out some of the Larry Bird videos. Some of the black guys absolutely admit they looked down on white players, hence the impact of LB whose talent put it right back at them with humour and trash talking!
But if quarry kept his head and counterpunched big George, after 6/7 rounds who knows, it could be similar to Quarry / Lyle, probably Jerry's most disciplined performance
Lyle was a hard puncher but foreman hit harder ..and lyle was more patient than foreman ..sometimes he waited a punch from his oponent ..foreman would have going more wildly to quarry .. who knows? Quarry was a good counter puncher and quick but he didnt hit that harder ..even he had a good chin so i think foreman would have won by TKO ..the fight would have been stoped while quarry took a lot of punishment
Quarry a good solid contender like Scott Ledoux would fight anyone, yet Quarry was hot and cold. Win fights he should lose.....lose fights he should have won. Foreman would have stopped Quarry inside of 7-8 rounds. Foreman is a major bullshitter. I saw how now he was glad he never fought Tyson, yet called him out until Buster Douglas beat him. Same with Quarry. He ducked Quarry,yet said Quarry did not want to fight him.
If he thinks it hard being a white boxer, try being a white NBA player. Same time in reverse being a black swimmer or ice skater. But hey look at Tiger Woods, imagine 60 years ago, I don't think anyone could imagine a black person being so dominant in golf let alone play the game.
I would say that the ONLY night in Jerry Quarry's career that he would have possibly beaten Big George Foreman for the World Title was in 1973 against Earnie Shavers. Jerry never looked better than that night in MSG. He was 202 pounds, lightning fast, and he hit like a freight train.
Agree. And that's why the Foreman team avoided him. That period, when Jerry beat Lyle and Shavers, was when he had the best shot. Given that styles make fights, I see George having a lot on his hands, with Jerry's style.
That’s what’s so vexing about Quarry...he Kayoed Spencer and Foster...and Foster went the distance with Ali.....he dispatched Lyle with ease...the same Lyle who a few years later gave Ali fits and almost crushed Foreman...the Shavers fight is really something....he destroyed a fighter who a few years later almost knocked out Ali and Holmes...and who DID crush Norton...who of course crushed Quarry...it just goes to show how truly unpredictable heavyweight boxing can be and how sometimes the difference between the top five or six heavies is dependent on styles and other X factors....
I usually see black boxers say disrespectful shit to all fighters even to black ones. Maybe to sell more tickets? Idk.Also the media loves to show negativity.
He was a fantastic gatekeeper and won all the fights he should have except possibly the one against Norton where he was on the decline. With Quarry you have to understand he started fighting in kindergarten, and besides genetics, fighting this early is a great way to end up with dementia. He probably had some vague symptoms and was a little off by his late twenties/early 30s. Kind of like Ali in the Shavers fight (although he never had dementia but other negative consequences due to boxing). So he could still fight to an extent, but his prime was over quite early. He still was never beating Frazier, Ali, or Foreman except maybe for headcase Foreman after the Ali fight. Anyone else he could have beaten including Norton, he just fought Norton too late in his career. Norton beating Quarry is like giving Marciano credit for beating Lewis or Kevin McBride credit for beating Tyson. That said, overall Norton is a better fighter because of size and speed.
I respectfully disagree. He lose or drew against fighters he should have beat, like Alongi, Patterson and Chuvalo. Conversely: he won big fights he had no business winning at all. They tried to make him a gatekeeper but the problem was he destroyed the fighters that were trying to get thru his gate; Spencer, Foster, Lyle and Shavers, and maybe Bodell to a lesser extent? His 1973 wins against Shavers and Lyle are amazing and even more so when you see what those fighters went on to do against fighters who destroyed Jerry. In fact watch Shavers and Lyle club each other into oblivion in 1975 and then marvel at how easily Jerry dispatched both? How can it be that in 1973 he absorbed the mightiest blows of Shavers and crushed him within a round? The same Shavers who crushed Norton within a round and almost koed Holmes….years later? Orthe first to deal a loss to Lyle and making it look almost breezy? Lyle was six three and 219…Jerry was six feet and 200! I’m not saying Jerry would have beat George. But there is a small window in late 73 or early 74 when maybe he might have? Bottom line imo, whatever that’s worth, Quarry is the most vexing of heavyweights who never won the title…..underperforming at crucial times…..over performing against bigger, taller, stronger, contenders when no one expected it….distracted and lackluster when he needed to shine….and laser focused and relentless when he was written off….
@@decristo1021 Quarry Was One Of The Top Heavyweights Of The 70s no doubt those victorys against Lyle and Shavers put him there cause they were 2 animals and that fight those 2 had is one of the greatest slug feasts of all time, what a shame there's no sound it's a travesty.. They did spar i believe but I'm not accurate on the year it was defo either the late 60s or early 70s but when Foreman fought Scott Ledux Quarry was commentator on the fight and he mentiones he sparred Foreman saying physically he was the strongest man he ever worked with and that Foreman was like a big animal... He also described on how to beat Foreman and sounded like he knew what he was talking about and sounded quite confident in what he was talking about.. Now I have no idea how the sparring sessions went by i get the feeling Quarry held his own especially after the Quarry Shavers fight when Gil Clancy jumped in the ring and called out Foreman who sitting ring side - Foreman was the champ at this time and Gil Clancy said why don't he fight Jerry Quarry we have being trying to make the fight for years, I can't remember exactly how it was worded but he basically said Foreman was ducking Quarry and Foreman dident give a response either, bare in mind a few minutes earlier Quarry had knocked out Shavers in one round so he is excused for that lol, i think that fight sent shock waves throughout out the division.. Also after the Norton fight i think it was Shavers called out Foreman in the ring and said his been ducking him for years, stop hiding George we know where ya are he said but everybody was ducking Shavers in 70s Norton, Ali And Holmes Admitted that they only fought him when they had to cause he was mandatory challenger but regarding Foreman it's interesting to think about it, im not saying they would have beat him but who knows.. Also when he made his comeback in the 90s according to Lyle he wanted a rematch with Foreman and Foreman turned it down weather it's true or not i don't know but according to Lyle it is ..
@@decristo1021 Very nice summary of Quarry's surprising career, both in its victories and its losses. I thought he was lucky to get the verdict vs. Patterson, but losing the count when going down against Chuvalo was surprisingly careless.
I didn't say BOTH Ali fights were title fights, one was ( 6\27\72-- NABF HW Title ) -- Norton was also ( 3\24\75 - for vacant NABF HW Title ). Quarry also lost 2 more title shots, one against Jimmy Ellis ( 4\27\68 - for world WBA Title ) and Frazier ( 6\23\69 - NYSAC HW Title ). So, Quarry had his chances -- he had 4 shots at world titles and lost them all.
You first said they weren't " title '' fights which they were as proven by my post... and now you claim they weren't '' world '' title fights. Make up your mind... and can't you use Google for god's sake ?
no offense, but how dopey are you?there is not one knowledgeable fight fan who thinks quarry would have seen the third round against foreman. George said a lot of things later in his career, in an attempt to over compensate for his the surly intimidating fighter he was in his twenties. He was attempting to be gracious, knowing full well he would have destroyed quarrytry not to be so gullible - do own like 17 of those George foreman grills?
I have the book 'hard luck' the triumph and tragedy of Jerry Quarry, George wrote the foreword, and admitted he was a Quarry fan, and didn't want to fight him
Gary Chapman i don't doubt he said it, the comeback George of the 90's was much more gracious than the bad-ass George of the 70's. He said many self-effacing sounding things (there is evidence much of it was fake) - one example, he said how scared of Joe Frazier he was prior to their fights - did you see the fights? is there one second George looks scared? most of the time he looks contemptuous, and murderous He might have been a fan of Quarry, he was not afraid to fight him, and would have destroyed Quarry - George was one of the biggest heavy weight punchers ever, and Quarry had virtually no defense - it would have ended fast
Maybe but Quarry schooled Ron lyle, a very similar fighter to foreman, if Quarry counter punched foreman,it could be interesting, George had a history of tiring quite quickly, Jerry would have had to stick to his game plan,which he didn't always do
Gary Chapman the difference between foreman and lyle is that foreman was more aggressive. he would have pressed the issue, shoving quarry into punching range (as he did with frazier) and likely would have hit quarry more frequently with heavy punches. I also think foreman had slightly better boxing skills, than lyle, if only the sharper and more consistent use of the jab.
True now, more than ever! At least in Canada, there are many jobs that give preference to what they call a visible minority …. It’s right there on the application . Example- Royal Canadian mounted police. Imagine an application, nowadays, saying - we will give preference to white applicants . Same thing. Same damn thing. Equality!!! Not equity!! I guess it’s how you were raised as well. I never heard a racist word from even my grandparents that were definitely born in a much different time. it was all about being kind to your fellow man. Or treat others how you would want to be treated. Sad state of affairs these days…
Quarry has a point but that doesn't make his black conspiracy claim make any more sense. I mean, he said Ali was part of the conspiracy even though he had already lost to Ali twice at that point in easy fashion. He got two title shots against Frazier and Ellis, which he had both lost. He fought way too cautiously against Ellis, it was baffling and he fought way too aggressively against Frazier both times. He took the 0 of Mac Foster, took the 0 of Ron Lyle, beat Shavers, beat Thad Spencer, got a gift draw against Patterson whom most including me felt like he lost but he did win the rematch in a close decision. He also got a win over Buster Mathis. So, what black conspiracy is he talking about exactly? I'm confused.
Echos today proper men back then jerry qaurry being real how does that work.today one can say something racist about another colour which Muhammad ali done alot. But the other colour cant reply or defend their colour. Or when they do their the racist absolutely crazy
Jerry was a really good fighter who couldnt get past the best(Ali, Frazier, Norton) but he tries to make an old argument just worded differently. The reason why its less offensive to hear black yell black power and more offensive to hear that from whites is because whites have always held power.
Lol Quarry had a lot of power. Had to fight for his dinner growing up in migrant camps, faced a murderer's row of killers and only made 2 million before God knows how much the managers and tax men took and died broke with Alzheimer's. The only privilege he briefly had was a hard head and an above average punch.
Never heard Ali call himself a black militant. Not one of Jerry's finest moments. I think in the same interview he said he never became champion because he wasn't enough of an animal. Please. When he had someone hurt he was all over them like any fighter.
I'm not white but Jerry is absolutely right
It's very brave of Quarry to say this and he probably had a point.
Not probably, he did and STILL has a point. These problems are still happening today, he was ahead of his time.
Nothing brave about this at all, what point did he have?
@@Satsu1NoHado What problems?
@@samuelfagbemi8851 Because it could be argued that what he was saying was true and it took a lot of courage to come out and say it publicly.
@@samuelfagbemi8851 because almost all sports in America are dominated by mostly black athletes. It’s true they’re genetically stronger and faster but it doesn’t mean that white people can’t compete either.
It's a shame that any man or woman has to be discriminated against, period. I wonder what we could accomplish in this world if let this color bullshit go. Sadly, I'll never know in my lifetime.
Great FKn Comment,
That Bs Never Ends,
I Understand What Jerry Quarry (God Rest His Soul) Ment.
I Can Say More, but The Way things are in this Beautiful Country for Too many years, it's Just Not Worth it.
He had white priveledge. He should have said nothing...
Jerry was hardly a racist, he ate and trained with black men and when he fought Patterson and Frazier there was no animosity about race. With Ali race is going to come up. Ali was too political for my taste👎
naim sharif yes , some were 😐
exactly
Jerry quarry did about the best impersonation of Muhammad Ali have ever heard, I’m sure that if he were racist and hated black people he wouldn’t be doing an imitation like that , vicious rumor that was started by Ken Norton who hated Jerry he was an egomaniac by the way
@End Racism 2k17 I remember Quarry saying he'd sue Norton, if he called him a 'racist', in public.
Jerry was not a racist. He and Ali, actually liked each other. Norton and anyone saying that, was spreading bullshit.
@@waynej2608 Quarry was a racist period, a bitter one.
Jerry was years ahead of his time with this.
How? It’s nonsense
@@samuelfagbemi8851
Have you been living under a rock for 3 decades ?
@@samuelfagbemi8851no its not. im black and what he says applys soooo much more now than ever. the liberal party has brainwashed everyone to think its ok to be racist agandt white people
@@trudeausbackbone1304 Lol of tons of white Europeans have got shots at the heavyweight title and won.
Jerry got a shot at the heavyweight title and lost. He usually lost when he stepped up in class. Quarry was just a low IQ racist white who got beat upside the head so much he suffered brain damage.
They just don't like the fact that black boxers beat him up nothing he said was logical... He fought Ali and Frazier two times each and they beat the hell out of him. He fought Norton... what is he talking about?
He lost against Ali... why are the black vs white fights always the highest paying for boxing
They arent the highest paying in boxing. Look at all the highest selling PPVs. They are all black vs black except for Conor vs Floyd.
@@GuyFromTheSouth Pacman vs floyd too
Watch the classic film "Fat City" (1972) Actor/Director/Producer Nicholas Colasanto, in his performance as a trainer gives explanation of which fighters are the biggest draw and why.
@@GuyFromTheSouth Nashville Dude laid a Nashville Dud with this comment.
You are absolutely wrong
Be proud of your white heritage. Always remember this.
right, because it is always a good idea to take advise from someone in prison
He always gave 110% of himself I LOVE & Respect Jerry Quarry
mollkatless what?
Clayton bigsby would be proud
If you grew up in this era, you might have a better understanding of the topic of racial pride.
The Native, "Colored" and Chicano and "Oriental" grade school through high school kids had no representation, in our text books nor holidays nor notable calendar days.
Meanwhile my Caucasian brothers and sisters had a ready made sense of pride, with Washington and Lincoln's Birthdays, Columbus Day, St. Patrick's Day etc.
And I remember all of my classmates, being of many of races were instructed to craft decorations, wear green, eat pumpkin pie, etc. etc.
Don't you see how unfair the educational system was?
And why no one needed to remind "White people" of racial pride?
Ali had a big mouth, and race baited by saying a lot of caustic stuff, usually in self promoting himself and his bouts.
I don't like many of the things he said, but I still love him.
He was sort of a counterbalance.
By the way;
I do not believe Jerry Quarry was a racist.
Well ahead of his time 🥊❤️
RIP JQ
@Tucker Johnson he didn’t have to talk so much trash on Ali
@Tucker Johnson Ali was a black person who hated segregation and Jim Crow. Was he supposed to happy in that society, his friend Malcom x had his parents killed by white southerners
@@Philotheist777 Muhammad Ali belonged to the Nation of Islam which supported racial segregation. The nation of islam was so nice to black people they murdered Malcolm X.
My uncle was good friends with his lil bro this guy is such a legend
“Time for the white man to stand up for his grounds.”
If only the Native Americans stood up for their grounds.
they did but against other tribes
@@TheSolder777 they should then and should now stand against white supremacists
They did.
They definitely tried
A Man Ahead of his Time!!😉👍
@@Philotheist777 so what? He lost to great fighters,being black has nothing to do with it.skin colour doesnt make you fight better.
@@Philotheist777 He surely did not lose to every black fighter that mattered. Quarry beat Floyd Patterson, Ernie Shavers, Buster Mathis, Ron Lyle, and Mac Foster - all contenders, as well as Patterson being the former world heavyweight champ.
@@Philotheist777 You’re just a c*ck for black people. Absolute spy boy you are.
@@Philotheist777 HE was only 194 pounds which is cruiser weight and he fought all the greats who were over 210 pounds.
@@joshuatree5620 FR he only lost cause the fights were stopped from his cuts
From what I have read, Jerry Quarry's early life was not terribly different from those of the majority of black boxers he faced, so the way I see it, he was probably right to question the status quo at the time..
Quarry discriminated against? He got a title shot vs both Frazier and Ellis. He got 2 big fights with Ali, Frazier, and one with Norton. Quarry was a solid contender with wins over Lyle, Shavers, Spencer, and Mac Foster. As far as Foreman.....one moment he says he ducks Quarry then in the interview after his 5-6 fighter exhibition Foreman said that Quarry was scared and didn't want none (If memory serves me correctly). As far as Ali's political statements, those were met with mixed views in the Black American community. Back to Quarry......he won big fights and lost big fights. That cost him title shots nothing else.
I agree with this completely. I think George is being magnanimous…but I do think that his team may have thought that the Quarry who had destroyed Shavers and outboxed Lyle was not the best match up for their new Champ at that point…Jerry had title shots and he had fights that were he to win he’d have gotten a title shot….he just didn’t match up against the top heavies of the 70s but did match up uncommonly well against other contenders who DID match up well with the top heavies of the 70s.
Big George Foreman backed out of 2 title fights with Jerry Quarry. Jerry earned a shot at Big George. What else could he do????
@@JimmyPlato1 so did Ken Norton and Ron Lyle. They won and lost fights just like Quarry. It would have been great had he fought Quarry, but no one outside of Ali was beating Foreman.
@@decristo1021 I think I got your logic. Styles makes fight. Quarry beats a lot of contenders, but got carved up Ali, Frazier, and Norton. He got a questionable decision win vs Patterson and a draw in 1st fight.
@@percyvaughan A fair statement and you are probably right. But Jerry in his prime had both speed and power, and at that time Big George really was not hit that much. So Quarry was perhaps the only fighter, other than Ali, who had a real chance against Foreman. But unfortunately, us fans did not get a chance to see it. I put Big George in the top 5 of all time.
Sadly, he would be cancelled today because of his views of which I agree with wholeheartedly. Society has become soft and the far-left are calling the shots today.
Black privilege is real
Quarry started crying about so called “reverse racism” after his victories over Lyle and Shavers. He was informed that he wouldn’t get a title shot against then champion George Foreman because Muhammad Ali (who’d stopped Quarry TWICE) would be next in line and Jerry would have to wait. Quarry went on to fight Joe Frazier, who many people thought was a shot fighter at this point. Frazier gave Quarry a savage beating and basically made him QUIT in five rounds..that ended all of Jerry’s “reverse racism” crap!
a very wise man. RIP Jerry Quarry
What’s wise about this?
Jerry is right here !
True in 1974, true now. George Foreman openly admitted to not wanting to fight Quarry because he felt like Quarry had a style that could beat him if he fought the right fight. Joe Frazier had the balls of a lion and fought and beat Quarry twice without any special circumstances. Ali's second fight with Jerry was literally minutes after Jerry saw his brother stretchered out of the arena after Bob Foster nearly killed him with that left hook. Jerry literally fought Jimmy Ellis with a broken back.
@jjosephdubya I guess you know better than george himself, never knew racism was a super power!
What he said was 100% true, even today look at fighters like Velasquez who has "Brown Pride" tattoo'd across his chest imagine if Brock Lesnar came in with "white Pride" tattoo'd across his the uproar would b unreal!
Fraziers handlers did not have balls of Iron and they did their job well until forced to fight Foreman. They even ducked an old but dangerous Sonny Liston. Bonavena who had decnt power Joe trouble. Fraziers handlers didn't match Joe with Lyle Shavers or even a post shooting version of Cleveland Williams, Frazier was a foil for runners like Ali Holmes or Jimmy Young. Like Norton a foil for boxers but chum for sluggers. Joe was a a great guy who kept it real opposite Ali who was a fraud and put on artist.
Please show me the part where I Hyped Quarry......I was commenting about Joe Frazier and Ali the fraud. I think being part of 5 fixes requires the title of Fraud. The two Liston FIxes The first fight was a fix per the FBI who was watching white guy point shaving and fight fixing gangster Ash Resnik who was Listons handler. They bugged Resniks phones and concluded the fix was in. The second lIston fight which only an Ali fanboy would believe was real. The two Ali Spinks fights based on another FBI investigation that is still sealed. The FBI is most likely waiting for Arum to die so he won't countersue after they say it was fixed. If they found nothing they would have said so. Please leave pathetic loser identity politics out of this. I dont think the greatest heavyweight was Marciano or any other white guy. I think Marciano was a fraud also. Quarry was never going to beat any slick boxers. He did beat Lyle and Shavers and gave Norton all he could handle. He won against Lyle and Shavers because both had endurence issues.
@Mr. Handsome shut the fuck up white boy
@jjosephdubya Jerry won the first 2 rounds against Ali in their second fight (mainly because Ali was not trying very hard and just feeling Jerry out) and perhaps drew round 2 in their first fight.
White men having been standing up for themselves? That’s new to me.
I agree with quarry , white men should be proud and have that right to be.
Just as do all nationalities and colors.
That way we will have a bunch of proud people who want to empower each other rather than tear each other down.
Mr. Handsome systems are still very much in place and as you can see. The thoughts and feelings from years ago is still around.
Time doesn’t heal things is they are not addressed and just made to believe don’t exist.
Just bc you sweep dirt under a carpet and can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there.
Mr. Handsome think about what you just said about labeling people the wrong way based on prejudice , insinuations, stereotypes or whatever.
Then think about the kid who just got killed for jogging and people Labeled him as a thief.
You said it yourself. It is wrong that “they” label.
Mr. Handsome what is my race ? Did you bother to ask.
Mr. Handsome that’s very much me.
You don’t seem to be disrespectful and appreciate that. I respect your opinion but just don’t agree with the concept the racism left with the people from the bc 1800’s. Racism is still very much Alive, but I respect you for having a decent convo with no trash talk.
I’m half black and half White.
Mr. Handsome I get what your saying my friend. I understand your perspective.
I don’t look back to the 1800’s when I can look back to the 1960’s .
I mean just turn on the news today. To act like racism on all accounts isn’t real , to me,is egregious..
And when I mean racism I’m not just talking about white supremacy focused racism.
It was true then and is still true now. For example, Alan Minter is still accused of racism for making a comment about not losing his title to a black fighter back in 1980 (before his defence against Hagler. But in the last few years Bernard Hopkins made comments that he'll never lose to a "white boy", prior to his fight with Calzaghe. But this was quickly brushed aside as Bernard simply being Bernard, and everyone continues to sing his praises. For many, racism is only racism when it comes from white people.
Anytime Bernard loses to a white guy, his quote gets brought up so it wasn't brushed to side. Your literally taking two situations and reversing it. If anything, what Minter said gets brushed to the side.
Its bc the white ppl ALWAYS had the power, and the rssn why there were ppl oprressed, u don't know what it was like to be black growing up in those times
One rule for blacks one rule for whites it seems. Hopkins had no backlash for his racist comments, which made it all the sweeter when he got his ass kicked 3 times by "white boys" 😂😂😂.
This was in the 70s time matters for context
You mean how that Russian boxer Kovalev has called black people monkeys numerous times and nobody said anything? Or how Conor McGregor also called black people monkeys and people still praise McGregor?
The media and politicians ( ironically mostly democrats who have always been racists) keep this a live and divide. People for the most part treat each other with respect on a daily basis.
What a flat out LIAR you are. GFY, cowardly fascist.
@@PhoenixProdLLC LOSER!!!!
@@PhoenixProdLLC Democrats are racists
It was a conspiracy when Ali whipped that ass
Mr. Quarry has a legitimate point in this particular case.
Huge Quarry fan but Ali was a bad matchup for him. Tall long reach Jab and cut Jerry. Quarry was smart but stubborn. Bad management early in his career as well. Huge wins against Shavers and Lyle. Could have gave Foreman a decent fight because of his chin. But George Foreman jab might cut Jerry. Should have fought a rematch with Jimmy Ellis instead of Frazier. That was a bad move. Hard luck guy. Deserved a better fate.
Agree. If Foreman's camp had taken the Quarry fight after the Lyle and Shavers fights, I truly believe that Jerry could've won Foreman's title. Styles make fights. And, yes, he should've avoided a second fight with Frazier.
Jerry was right on.
Jerry Quarry was a decent man and a terrific boxer. Fair go! He’s not attacking anyone just trying to stick up for himself. It’s probably not a great idea to talk about “the white man”....still, you know if reporters were to follow and tape what many people say in their everyday lives, we’d be looking at nothing but bloopers! Respect.
sticking up for himself by accusing others of r a c i s m? Sounds like sour grapes to me. He had his chances and lost every time what more did he want? Comparing himself to Ali like he comes from an O P P R E S S E D M I N O R I T Y.
Roc ROCA settle down mate.Muhammad Ali was openly racist. He was happy to discuss his position with anyone and he did on many occasions! Jerry Quarry was not wrong on that! Didn’t you know that? Maybe check out Ali’s many proclamations seeking the segregation of the races and claiming the white man was the blue eyed devil? Ali was a beloved person because he was authentic and honest in his position. He didn’t seek any violent solutions, just a separation of people’s. In regard to Jerry Quarry, perhaps have some respect for a softly spoken man, speaking up for himself,who also happened to be one of the top heavyweights of his day. Good luck to you and yours.
@@japsley6172 settle down and don't be confused, having an answer to the White racism they were going through now and then is not being a racist sir. Quarry was a bonafide real racist and not very bright with it. What happens when Blacks stay around racists is we keep getting shot. Ali supplied the solution.
@@japsley6172you're crazy, Ali wanted his people away from r a c i s ts , how is finding a solution to W h i t e r a c i s m racist!!!!!!! Did Ali just say those things when everyone lived harmoniously together? What about now? Do B l a c k s coexist happily with White people? At some point, W h i t e s will have to admit that they have an acute problem with r a c i s m. Jerry Quarry, on the other hand, started seeking special treatment when he lost all his shots for the title. Not having special treatment is racist to him in his teeny weeny mind. That's the story of W H I T E S U P R E M A C Y
Roc ROCA I loved Ali and grew up admiring him. Ali’s views were shaped by the Black Muslims.
I’m. It saying I agree or disagree with. He was however advocating a physical segregation of whites and blacks. He was well recorded on several occasions talking about the blue eyed devils. Ali was a great presenter of these views as he did it with charm and passion without advocating violence. I think to say his statements aren’t racist is denial.
Jerry Quarry, here, if you listen to him was responding to people criticising him for daring to voice opinions as a white man. The modern way seems to be to shut down and deny any opinion which doesn’t gel with the standard line. A healthy society allows open and free (respectful) discussion, even if we disagree with what is being said. There is no need to insult people.
So true Jerry- glad you used your Voice ! RIP Jerry
Check out some of the Larry Bird videos. Some of the black guys absolutely admit they looked down on white players, hence the impact of LB whose talent put it right back at them with humour and trash talking!
Jerry quarry is telling the truth
Jerry Quarry said that it’s time for “the white man to stand up!”
THEN, in his next fight (against Joe Frazier) Quarry fell down!! 😂😂😂
Ali made a lot of racist statements about white people that I heard growing up in the 60s and 70s. Jerry was right .
But if quarry kept his head and counterpunched big George, after 6/7 rounds who knows, it could be similar to Quarry / Lyle, probably Jerry's most disciplined performance
Lyle was a hard puncher but foreman hit harder ..and lyle was more patient than foreman ..sometimes he waited a punch from his oponent ..foreman would have going more wildly to quarry .. who knows? Quarry was a good counter puncher and quick but he didnt hit that harder ..even he had a good chin so i think foreman would have won by TKO ..the fight would have been stoped while quarry took a lot of punishment
Quarry a good solid contender like Scott Ledoux would fight anyone, yet Quarry was hot and cold. Win fights he should lose.....lose fights he should have won. Foreman would have stopped Quarry inside of 7-8 rounds. Foreman is a major bullshitter. I saw how now he was glad he never fought Tyson, yet called him out until Buster Douglas beat him. Same with Quarry. He ducked Quarry,yet said Quarry did not want to fight him.
@A R Shavers definitely wasn't as fast as Foreman. Maybe with his hands but Foreman had much better footwork.
Foreman ducked Jerry, George turned down 1 million dollar fight he didnt want to fight Quarry cause Jerry knocked out Ron Lyle and Earnie Shavers.
Should have beaten Ellis, I scored it 7/6/2 quarry
prophetic words that are even more valid now
If he thinks it hard being a white boxer, try being a white NBA player. Same time in reverse being a black swimmer or ice skater. But hey look at Tiger Woods, imagine 60 years ago, I don't think anyone could imagine a black person being so dominant in golf let alone play the game.
This shot we’re experiencing now has been going on for a very long time, as we see here with Quarry’s testimony.
Also, Ali was a flaming bigot.
Get lost you hypocrites
I would say that the ONLY night in Jerry Quarry's career that he would have possibly beaten Big George Foreman for the World Title was in 1973 against Earnie Shavers. Jerry never looked better than that night in MSG. He was 202 pounds, lightning fast, and he hit like a freight train.
Agree. And that's why the Foreman team avoided him. That period, when Jerry beat Lyle and Shavers, was when he had the best shot. Given that styles make fights, I see George having a lot on his hands, with Jerry's style.
Thats the most white thing to to say. Jerry got whooped by norton he stands no chance
@@waynej2608 yea watch him get beat by kenny and frazier he totally can win
That’s what’s so vexing about Quarry...he Kayoed Spencer and Foster...and Foster went the distance with Ali.....he dispatched Lyle with ease...the same Lyle who a few years later gave Ali fits and almost crushed Foreman...the Shavers fight is really something....he destroyed a fighter who a few years later almost knocked out Ali and Holmes...and who DID crush Norton...who of course crushed Quarry...it just goes to show how truly unpredictable heavyweight boxing can be and how sometimes the difference between the top five or six heavies is dependent on styles and other X factors....
@@Hawkman-ns9jw Hi Hawkman. You are right on the money on this. Great comments....
I usually see black boxers say disrespectful shit to all fighters even to black ones. Maybe to sell more tickets? Idk.Also the media loves to show negativity.
Surprised AP leaves this up.
Jerry tells it like it is! Cassius Clay and Leon Spinks were afraid to fight me as well!
Oh shut up whitey
Jerry quarry sucked ass.
@@pauloskidane2819 😂😂
You mean Muhammad Ali !
@@booma3069 No,I meant Cassius Clay!
So easy to forget where America's heritage of racism came from.
Yes indeed.
@Tucker Johnson of course not.
What a really dumb comment in 1974 😂 privilege hidden to those who have it
Jerry quarry 100% right…he was discriminated against…Ali couldn’t fight in war bc of religion but it didn’t say anything about adulatory
He speaks the truth 100 pct and its only gotten worse
yeah because you are so underprivileged ,economically and socially deprived and mercifully oppressed , gtfoh yeah right
Rip jerry quarry your 100 percent right !
No he ain't. Jerry got so many undeserved title shots?? Why?? Because of his colour. The whites were jealous that they couldn't fight for shit.
Sorry Jerry but we ran the complete opposite direction
And how did this great white hope die????
ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY SIR,
MAY THE BEST MAN WIN... AND IF SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING DISRESPECTFUL... MAKE HIM PAY FOR IT IN THE RING.
He was a fantastic gatekeeper and won all the fights he should have except possibly the one against Norton where he was on the decline. With Quarry you have to understand he started fighting in kindergarten, and besides genetics, fighting this early is a great way to end up with dementia. He probably had some vague symptoms and was a little off by his late twenties/early 30s. Kind of like Ali in the Shavers fight (although he never had dementia but other negative consequences due to boxing). So he could still fight to an extent, but his prime was over quite early. He still was never beating Frazier, Ali, or Foreman except maybe for headcase Foreman after the Ali fight. Anyone else he could have beaten including Norton, he just fought Norton too late in his career. Norton beating Quarry is like giving Marciano credit for beating Lewis or Kevin McBride credit for beating Tyson. That said, overall Norton is a better fighter because of size and speed.
Foreman avoided Quarry though and Quarry was a sparring partner for Foreman, Foreman also avoided Shavers ...
I respectfully disagree. He lose or drew against fighters he should have beat, like Alongi, Patterson and Chuvalo. Conversely: he won big fights he had no business winning at all. They tried to make him a gatekeeper but the problem was he destroyed the fighters that were trying to get thru his gate; Spencer, Foster, Lyle and Shavers, and maybe Bodell to a lesser extent? His 1973 wins against Shavers and Lyle are amazing and even more so when you see what those fighters went on to do against fighters who destroyed Jerry. In fact watch Shavers and Lyle club each other into oblivion in 1975 and then marvel at how easily Jerry dispatched both?
How can it be that in 1973 he absorbed the mightiest blows of Shavers and crushed him within a round? The same Shavers who crushed Norton within a round and almost koed Holmes….years later? Orthe first to deal a loss to Lyle and making it look almost breezy? Lyle was six three and 219…Jerry was six feet and 200! I’m not saying Jerry would have beat George. But there is a small window in late 73 or early 74 when maybe he might have? Bottom line imo, whatever that’s worth, Quarry is the most vexing of heavyweights who never won the title…..underperforming at crucial times…..over performing against bigger, taller, stronger, contenders when no one expected it….distracted and lackluster when he needed to shine….and laser focused and relentless when he was written off….
@@davidfitzgerald5110 did Quarry and Foreman spar in 1969 or so and Quarry got the better? I swear I read that but can’t find it now
@@decristo1021 Quarry Was One Of The Top Heavyweights Of The 70s no doubt those victorys against Lyle and Shavers put him there cause they were 2 animals and that fight those 2 had is one of the greatest slug feasts of all time, what a shame there's no sound it's a travesty..
They did spar i believe but I'm not accurate on the year it was defo either the late 60s or early 70s but when Foreman fought Scott Ledux Quarry was commentator on the fight and he mentiones he sparred Foreman saying physically he was the strongest man he ever worked with and that Foreman was like a big animal... He also described on how to beat Foreman and sounded like he knew what he was talking about and sounded quite confident in what he was talking about.. Now I have no idea how the sparring sessions went by i get the feeling Quarry held his own especially after the Quarry Shavers fight when Gil Clancy jumped in the ring and called out Foreman who sitting ring side - Foreman was the champ at this time and Gil Clancy said why don't he fight Jerry Quarry we have being trying to make the fight for years, I can't remember exactly how it was worded but he basically said Foreman was ducking Quarry and Foreman dident give a response either, bare in mind a few minutes earlier Quarry had knocked out Shavers in one round so he is excused for that lol, i think that fight sent shock waves throughout out the division.. Also after the Norton fight i think it was Shavers called out Foreman in the ring and said his been ducking him for years, stop hiding George we know where ya are he said but everybody was ducking Shavers in 70s Norton, Ali And Holmes Admitted that they only fought him when they had to cause he was mandatory challenger but regarding Foreman it's interesting to think about it, im not saying they would have beat him but who knows.. Also when he made his comeback in the 90s according to Lyle he wanted a rematch with Foreman and Foreman turned it down weather it's true or not i don't know but according to Lyle it is ..
@@decristo1021 Very nice summary of Quarry's surprising career, both in its victories and its losses. I thought he was lucky to get the verdict vs. Patterson, but losing the count when going down against Chuvalo was surprisingly careless.
Spot on
Couldn't get a title shot ? He got 3 title shots - against Jimmy Ellis, Ali and Norton and lost all 3. Quarry was a top contender, nothing more.
Jerry Langlois
Both Ali fights and the Norton one were NOT title fights.
I didn't say BOTH Ali fights were title fights, one was ( 6\27\72-- NABF HW Title ) -- Norton was also ( 3\24\75 - for vacant NABF HW Title ). Quarry also lost 2 more title shots, one against Jimmy Ellis ( 4\27\68 - for world WBA Title ) and Frazier ( 6\23\69 - NYSAC HW Title ). So, Quarry had his chances -- he had 4 shots at world titles and lost them all.
Jerry Langlois
My point is that the Ali and Norton fights were NOT, as you said “WORLD” title fights.
You first said they weren't " title '' fights which they were as proven by my post... and now you claim they weren't '' world '' title fights. Make up your mind... and can't you use Google for god's sake ?
Jerry Langlois
Geezz...YOU SAID they were “World Title” fights....just look at what you wrote. They were not....PERIOD.
Bakersfield boy
Real man!
George foreman admitted he was a big Quarry fan,and ducked him,he knew if Jerry fought the right fight,he'd beat him.
no offense, but how dopey are you?there is not one knowledgeable fight fan who thinks quarry would have seen the third round against foreman. George said a lot of things later in his career, in an attempt to over compensate for his the surly intimidating fighter he was in his twenties. He was attempting to be gracious, knowing full well he would have destroyed quarrytry not to be so gullible - do own like 17 of those George foreman grills?
I have the book 'hard luck' the triumph and tragedy of Jerry Quarry, George wrote the foreword, and admitted he was a Quarry fan, and didn't want to fight him
Gary Chapman i don't doubt he said it, the comeback George of the 90's was much more gracious than the bad-ass George of the 70's. He said many self-effacing sounding things (there is evidence much of it was fake) - one example, he said how scared of Joe Frazier he was prior to their fights - did you see the fights? is there one second George looks scared? most of the time he looks contemptuous, and murderous
He might have been a fan of Quarry, he was not afraid to fight him, and would have destroyed Quarry - George was one of the biggest heavy weight punchers ever, and Quarry had virtually no defense - it would have ended fast
Maybe but Quarry schooled Ron lyle, a very similar fighter to foreman, if Quarry counter punched foreman,it could be interesting, George had a history of tiring quite quickly, Jerry would have had to stick to his game plan,which he didn't always do
Gary Chapman the difference between foreman and lyle is that foreman was more aggressive. he would have pressed the issue, shoving quarry into punching range (as he did with frazier) and likely would have hit quarry more frequently with heavy punches. I also think foreman had slightly better boxing skills, than lyle, if only the sharper and more consistent use of the jab.
Separation will solve everything
True now, more than ever!
At least in Canada, there are many jobs that give preference to what they call a visible minority ….
It’s right there on the application .
Example- Royal Canadian mounted police.
Imagine an application, nowadays, saying - we will give preference to white applicants .
Same thing. Same damn thing.
Equality!!! Not equity!!
I guess it’s how you were raised as well. I never heard a racist word from even my grandparents that were definitely born in a much different time.
it was all about being kind to your fellow man. Or treat others how you would want to be treated. Sad state of affairs these days…
Nah...
Exactly what goes on today. He is spot on with his assessment.
Quarry has a point but that doesn't make his black conspiracy claim make any more sense. I mean, he said Ali was part of the conspiracy even though he had already lost to Ali twice at that point in easy fashion. He got two title shots against Frazier and Ellis, which he had both lost. He fought way too cautiously against Ellis, it was baffling and he fought way too aggressively against Frazier both times.
He took the 0 of Mac Foster, took the 0 of Ron Lyle, beat Shavers, beat Thad Spencer, got a gift draw against Patterson whom most including me felt like he lost but he did win the rematch in a close decision. He also got a win over Buster Mathis.
So, what black conspiracy is he talking about exactly? I'm confused.
How dares dis white boy speak da truft !!!$$
Work how?
Somethings never change.
Nothing has been further from the truth with boxing. People have always loved to see a white guy box against the many black greats of Jerry's day.
Damn rt brother
Echos today proper men back then jerry qaurry being real how does that work.today one can say something racist about another colour which Muhammad ali done alot. But the other colour cant reply or defend their colour. Or when they do their the racist absolutely crazy
Jerry was a really good fighter who couldnt get past the best(Ali, Frazier, Norton) but he tries to make an old argument just worded differently. The reason why its less offensive to hear black yell black power and more offensive to hear that from whites is because whites have always held power.
Lol Quarry had a lot of power. Had to fight for his dinner growing up in migrant camps, faced a murderer's row of killers and only made 2 million before God knows how much the managers and tax men took and died broke with Alzheimer's. The only privilege he briefly had was a hard head and an above average punch.
@@daviddufresne343
quarry did nothing against anyone
Braindead twitter comment lol
Kern counties finest
I like Muhammad Ali a lot but i can say he was big racist.
But he was in Ennis/Ireland in the 2000s, to visit the birthplace of his great great grandfather
❤
If you explain why you not a racist you are a racist
Gaslighting
Great white hopes .... Lol
😂😂😂😂
Never heard Ali call himself a black militant. Not one of Jerry's finest moments. I think in the same interview he said he never became champion because he wasn't enough of an animal. Please. When he had someone hurt he was all over them like any fighter.
Foreman wouldn’t have broken a sweat against Quarry. Ali and Frazier beat him like a drum.
''i'm not racist, but...''
He right he never had nothing racist thords black and he got call out
You got that Right, Mohammed Ali should have been in Jail for not serving our Country. 😮
Stand up and get knocked down
Ali too funny😂😂 black militant. 😂😂