This is one of my favourite channels. Just two blokes, standing in a field, talking photography. I'm holding out for a Z6iii but it's just taking so long to be announced. Enjoy the Z8 Loz.
Congratulations on the Z8! Also: I love your channel! 😊 As for the 180-600/100-400 comparison: I rented the 180-600 for a week to test it on my Z6II, and it's a great lens, but ultimately I went for the 100-400. It's a lot shorter and lighter and that makes a difference if you carry it around all day. Can't complain about the sharpness either. Next on my wish list: a Z8...
Congratulations!! You’re going to love it! I have a Z9 and a Z8, and I had to photograph an event last weekend, and I chose to use the Z8 as my primary camera. It performed flawlessly. And the battery nearly made it through the entire event with more than 1300 times photos!
Well gentlemen, I’ve been pondering the same Z8 now versus the ongoing wait for Z6iii, but we haven’t had such incredible price reductions here in the US. Please share your impressions of the higher megapixel sensor from you Z6ii when you’ve had the chance to use it for a bit. (Me not having used more than a 24mp FF to date, the high mp seems like a mixed bag). Congrats on the new kit.
Was at the Saturday show, completed my holy f2.8 trinity adding the 24 - 70 f2.8 for the fabulous show deal price of just £1499 ( £700 off ). Awesome 😊
Congratulations! It is a brilliant Camera. I ordered the SL3 to compare but then I stopped the order and got a 50mm 1.2 S (used) instead. Should arrive tomorrow. I have thr trinity Zooms, but I was missing a Prime for Portraits, Street and low light. the 50mm and the 85mm 1.2 look so massive I wanted to switch to Sony or Leica. But Price/Quality is better with Nikon and the Z8 is so lightning fast! The Plena will also come to me one day, and the ZF II or NIkon Z7III as a second camera! Keep on going, we are missing good Nikon channels.
Way to go! I expect to see a video with your thoughts on the Z8 soon. I'm still holding out for the Z6iii, but I would have been tempted at that price. See ya next time!
@@russandloz heavier, but more useful! I use mine daily for birding and fast action (my greyhounds) and I'm not too bothered by the weight. The 200-500 was good for birding, but rubbish for fast action due to the cumbersome zoom.
Congrats Loz, it is a great camera. At the beginning I wasn‘t 100% convince when comparing to my „old“ z6II (buyers remorse) but after using it, I overcome them quickly.
Shocking that Loz opted to dive in and get the Z8 instead of holding on a bit longer, but with a price like that, it can not be passed by. As always, a great video, and it's fun to see others get a lot of joy out of camera equipment and then actually use it. It's fine when other RUclips channels get equipment just to test it out, but the two of you actually put it to good use. To set your channel apart from others, it might be fun to see how well a piece of equipment has lasted. Go to your earliest lens and do some test shots now and maybe explain how you use it in your work and how it's held up. Maybe mention what is good about it and in what areas it may lack. Maybe Loz can do the same with the Z6 since it is a few years old now. It could be helpful for someone just getting into photography (or the Z-line) and it could help them to decide if a used piece of equipment is worth it. Please remember to write down the serial number of your own cameras. You don't want to get a Russ Z8 confused with a Loz Z8. Happy shooting!
That’s a good idea for retrospective reviews as things change so quickly. Maybe we could make mini reviews. Appreciate your comments and support. It keeps us going
I went to the show but didn’t buy anything. I really wanted to look at the zf in its various colours and wanted to see what the 400 2.8 is like. Wow what a lens! I’ve got the 100-400 and was going to buy the 180-600 but decided the wider end and much lighter I’d get much more use out of it and yes more than happy with my decision. 180-600 is good but I’m not a birder and the 100-400 makes more sense imo Congratulations on the Z8 Loz and you won’t be disappointed 👍
@@lozzom yes got the 70-200 as well. I’d say Optically on par and was very tempted to try the 2 x TC but prefer the wider 100mm I’m off to the BTCC at Donington in April so will be a good test but so far very happy with it and no regrets it’s very sharp imo 😀
Congratulations on an excellent product at a great price. The Z8 truly eliminates GAS. Had I not owned the Z8, I would have definitely chosen the Zf, a camera I've anticipated for years. However, I opted against the Zf to avoid its noisy shutter, especially after being spoiled by the silent shutter of the Z8. Z8 cures GAS! lol😂
"The camera store guy said they were expecting the Z6iII announcement about two weeks ago." [9:05] The RED acquisition announcement was exactly two weeks ago, preempting the Z6III.
@@russandloz It would be really cool if the Z6III announcement was delayed because they also want to announce that REDCODE Raw will be included in a later firmware upgrade, even if only for 4k60. And of course it should go in the Z9 and Loz's new Z8...
This is primarily for Loz. I own both the Nikon Z 100-400mm and the Nikon Z 180-600. They are both wonderful lenses, but having listened to the Russ and Loz videos for a couple of years, I would think that you'd be happier with the Z 100-400mm f4.5 -5.6 S. vs the Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3. I bought the 180-600mm primarily for shooting wildlife, during daylight at distance. I think it's excellent for that, but the Z 100-400mm is more versatile, slightly better f-stop, and probably slightly better autofocus aand certainly lighter weight. I just think you'd use the 100-400 far more than you would the 180-600 given the use case that you talk about for your own photography. By the way, they both work great with the Z8!
Thanks John - this is where my thinking has been going to be honest, just need to justify it to myself now 😅 I am going to try Russ’s 2.0 TC on my 70-200 first out of curiosity, as that would give 400 at 5.6 theoretically; wondering how sharp it will be 🤷♂️ thanks for your help !
Hi Loz. I have the 1.4x Nikon Z teleconverter and have used it on my 70-200, 100-400mm, and the 180-600mm. It certainly drops light by a stop or so, but the images are quite satisfactory from a sharpness perspective. I've certainly read reviews of the 2.0x, but then I figured that with the resolution of my Z8 and Z9 I could just crop a bit to equal the 2.0x so I haven't bought that one.@@lozzom
Damn, DAMN, DAMN IT! I just bought my Zf, in blue colour, just now online, for full price. If I had gone to this show, I may have been able to get a few quid off. Damn iiiit!
@@cmartin_ok too much I'd say Martin. I just swallowed the cost, and bought one here from the Nikon Belgium online store. They had the colour I wanted in stock, so I figured why not just go ahead.
I was there on the Saturday but couldn't afford a new camera. Interesting that the prices were reduced further towards the end of the show, so is the message that if you want to buy, go on the last day?
I think the V8 is a better choice than the Z6 people don't realise that it's not just about the megapixels. There's a build quality of the better cameras. They are just better in many situations now I know there was some problems with the shutter curtain, but hopefully they've fixed that in the later models that wasn't early model problem. There were number of Z8 owners who had that problem, it's one of the reasons why I didn't buy that camera. I really wanted the Nikon Z8 but in the end I went for a GFX camera and I've been very happy but I still yearned to maybe Own Z81 day
@@russandloz I saw a few posts on the Nikon page. I was on that page for a long time because I owned the Nikon D850. It is just a Facebook page for Nikon cameras and there was a few guys mentioning it on there. I'll see if there's any articles on it.
@@russandloz Its in London next year apparently (eXEL Centre) - if you weren't aware.. when you're close it will work out cheaper by train. When you coming from Yorkshire it's a little harder.
@@russandloz Higher dynamic range & a lot color depth. 8bit files are a no go for most of pro video work. You could easily get color banding when recording to 8bit files.
@@ktcool4660 I think for what I do it looks great. Never had those issues that I’ve noticed. If I was to make something for a client I would use a better format
This is one of my favourite channels. Just two blokes, standing in a field, talking photography. I'm holding out for a Z6iii but it's just taking so long to be announced. Enjoy the Z8 Loz.
Thanks Dan, we like to think we are offering something different 😊
I had to look up bloke, because it sounded like a swear. Sheeesh, I’m glad it means ‘a causal man’ and not what I thought. LOL😮😅
Thanks - will do ! 👍
Just two blokes 😮 Whose back garden is it 😂😂
@@Johnlancastersome bloke’s garden 😬
Congratulations on the new Z8, as you were before, I am still using the Z6 mark 1. Still ok for my use case but we always want more.
Yes it’s true. I use my z6i for my third camera and works well.
Excellent 😊 you've given me "Gase" that's Gas Envy lol. Looking forward to both of your Z8 adventures. Cheers
Congratulations on the Z8! Also: I love your channel! 😊 As for the 180-600/100-400 comparison: I rented the 180-600 for a week to test it on my Z6II, and it's a great lens, but ultimately I went for the 100-400. It's a lot shorter and lighter and that makes a difference if you carry it around all day. Can't complain about the sharpness either. Next on my wish list: a Z8...
That’s really interesting and testing my GAS again 😢
I did the same as you and I really like my 100-400
Congratulations!! You’re going to love it! I have a Z9 and a Z8, and I had to photograph an event last weekend, and I chose to use the Z8 as my primary camera. It performed flawlessly. And the battery nearly made it through the entire event with more than 1300 times photos!
Well gentlemen, I’ve been pondering the same Z8 now versus the ongoing wait for Z6iii, but we haven’t had such incredible price reductions here in the US. Please share your impressions of the higher megapixel sensor from you Z6ii when you’ve had the chance to use it for a bit. (Me not having used more than a 24mp FF to date, the high mp seems like a mixed bag). Congrats on the new kit.
Was at the Saturday show, completed my holy f2.8 trinity adding the 24 - 70 f2.8 for the fabulous show deal price of just £1499 ( £700 off ). Awesome 😊
Amazing deal - well done !
Awesome price!
It is a brilliant lens!
Congratulations! It is a brilliant Camera. I ordered the SL3 to compare but then I stopped the order and got a 50mm 1.2 S (used) instead. Should arrive tomorrow. I have thr trinity Zooms, but I was missing a Prime for Portraits, Street and low light. the 50mm and the 85mm 1.2 look so massive I wanted to switch to Sony or Leica. But Price/Quality is better with Nikon and the Z8 is so lightning fast! The Plena will also come to me one day, and the ZF II or NIkon Z7III as a second camera! Keep on going, we are missing good Nikon channels.
How exciting! I guessed a Z8. Congrats! 😎👍
Thanks !
Way to go! I expect to see a video with your thoughts on the Z8 soon. I'm still holding out for the Z6iii, but I would have been tempted at that price. See ya next time!
The end line works well 😊
If you own the 200-500, you will love the 180-600! It's faster to focus, way faster to zoom and lighter. I certainly don't regret my trade in.
I think it would duel up with my 400 4.5 quite well. Or maybe even be more useful ?
@@russandloz heavier, but more useful! I use mine daily for birding and fast action (my greyhounds) and I'm not too bothered by the weight. The 200-500 was good for birding, but rubbish for fast action due to the cumbersome zoom.
Congrats Loz, it is a great camera. At the beginning I wasn‘t 100% convince when comparing to my „old“ z6II (buyers remorse) but after using it, I overcome them quickly.
Excellent!
congrats! it's always nice to have a new camera in the house. woowoo!!!
Shocking that Loz opted to dive in and get the Z8 instead of holding on a bit longer, but with a price like that, it can not be passed by.
As always, a great video, and it's fun to see others get a lot of joy out of camera equipment and then actually use it.
It's fine when other RUclips channels get equipment just to test it out, but the two of you actually put it to good use. To set your channel apart from others, it might be fun to see how well a piece of equipment has lasted. Go to your earliest lens and do some test shots now and maybe explain how you use it in your work and how it's held up. Maybe mention what is good about it and in what areas it may lack. Maybe Loz can do the same with the Z6 since it is a few years old now. It could be helpful for someone just getting into photography (or the Z-line) and it could help them to decide if a used piece of equipment is worth it.
Please remember to write down the serial number of your own cameras. You don't want to get a Russ Z8 confused with a Loz Z8.
Happy shooting!
That’s a good idea for retrospective reviews as things change so quickly. Maybe we could make mini reviews. Appreciate your comments and support. It keeps us going
Don’t worry - I don’t want a dodgy curtain 😬 Thanks for the comments and ideas !
Great video Los has joined the Z8 club
This is a true photo channel, Keep up the good work mates 🤘🤝
Cheers !
Congrats Loz! I don't think you will regret getting the Z8 over yet-to-be-announced Z6III.
I went to the show but didn’t buy anything. I really wanted to look at the zf in its various colours and wanted to see what the 400 2.8 is like. Wow what a lens! I’ve got the 100-400 and was going to buy the 180-600 but decided the wider end and much lighter I’d get much more use out of it and yes more than happy with my decision. 180-600 is good but I’m not a birder and the 100-400 makes more sense imo
Congratulations on the Z8 Loz and you won’t be disappointed 👍
There were a lot of people buying the 100-400 when I was there. It’s a good range. But like you said too short for most birding.
Thanks - curious as to whether you have a 70-200 and how the 100-400 complements/works with that ?
@@lozzom yes got the 70-200 as well. I’d say Optically on par and was very tempted to try the 2 x TC but prefer the wider 100mm
I’m off to the BTCC at Donington in April so will be a good test but so far very happy with it and no regrets it’s very sharp imo 😀
@@cotswoldphotographersthanks - I’m tempted 😬
Congratulations on an excellent product at a great price. The Z8 truly eliminates GAS. Had I not owned the Z8, I would have definitely chosen the Zf, a camera I've anticipated for years. However, I opted against the Zf to avoid its noisy shutter, especially after being spoiled by the silent shutter of the Z8. Z8 cures GAS! lol😂
Thank God for that ! 😬😂
Well done Loz , what a price 😮
Yes considering on launch 11 months ago was £4000! £3299 is great! Just shows there are deals if you wait
The absolute right choice.
Aaaaaaaw ok what do we have?! < rubs hands together > 👏🏻😆
I love my Z8 and I love your videos. Thank you.
Congrats on the great deal with the new Z8!
"The camera store guy said they were expecting the Z6iII announcement about two weeks ago." [9:05]
The RED acquisition announcement was exactly two weeks ago, preempting the Z6III.
Yeah could have actually! Good point
@@russandloz It would be really cool if the Z6III announcement was delayed because they also want to announce that REDCODE Raw will be included in a later firmware upgrade, even if only for 4k60. And of course it should go in the Z9 and Loz's new Z8...
The 180-600,for the price and quality is without compare.
This is primarily for Loz. I own both the Nikon Z 100-400mm and the Nikon Z 180-600. They are both wonderful lenses, but having listened to the Russ and Loz videos for a couple of years, I would think that you'd be happier with the Z 100-400mm f4.5 -5.6 S. vs the Z 180-600mm f5.6-6.3. I bought the 180-600mm primarily for shooting wildlife, during daylight at distance. I think it's excellent for that, but the Z 100-400mm is more versatile, slightly better f-stop, and probably slightly better autofocus aand certainly lighter weight. I just think you'd use the 100-400 far more than you would the 180-600 given the use case that you talk about for your own photography. By the way, they both work great with the Z8!
Thanks John - this is where my thinking has been going to be honest, just need to justify it to myself now 😅 I am going to try Russ’s 2.0 TC on my 70-200 first out of curiosity, as that would give 400 at 5.6 theoretically; wondering how sharp it will be 🤷♂️ thanks for your help !
Hi Loz. I have the 1.4x Nikon Z teleconverter and have used it on my 70-200, 100-400mm, and the 180-600mm. It certainly drops light by a stop or so, but the images are quite satisfactory from a sharpness perspective. I've certainly read reviews of the 2.0x, but then I figured that with the resolution of my Z8 and Z9 I could just crop a bit to equal the 2.0x so I haven't bought that one.@@lozzom
Damn, DAMN, DAMN IT!
I just bought my Zf, in blue colour, just now online, for full price.
If I had gone to this show, I may have been able to get a few quid off.
Damn iiiit!
Not many Zf were there I don’t think
@@lozzom thank you for the reply.
Man ALIVE! A poor man can't catch a break.
.... but how much would it have cost you to get to the show and back?
@@cmartin_ok too much I'd say Martin.
I just swallowed the cost, and bought one here from the Nikon Belgium online store. They had the colour I wanted in stock, so I figured why not just go ahead.
Crosses out "Russ & Loz Productions. Writes "The Z8 Show" :)
I guess it is. We also have zf and z6’s as other tools
Congrats Loz!
Welcome to the club! I love mine.
Z8 is just amazing! Enjoy!
The Nikon Z 180-600 is an amazing lens. I pair it with my Z8 and it is all that you need, images are so sharp and so full of life and color.
How do you get on with its size and weight?
@@russandloz, feels great when I’m on a trail or at the lake with an attached strap.
Happy new "Z8 photos". Enjoy!
I was there on the Saturday but couldn't afford a new camera. Interesting that the prices were reduced further towards the end of the show, so is the message that if you want to buy, go on the last day?
Seemed to be the case this year
Well I am a fan of your show! 😃
Youre going to love it for all but the noise in lowlight.
I’ve never had an issue with that. But I guess I mostly shoot with primes for events.
@@russandloz iso 6k and above for me a pretty harsh even at 1.4
I think the V8 is a better choice than the Z6 people don't realise that it's not just about the megapixels. There's a build quality of the better cameras. They are just better in many situations now I know there was some problems with the shutter curtain, but hopefully they've fixed that in the later models that wasn't early model problem. There were number of Z8 owners who had that problem, it's one of the reasons why I didn't buy that camera. I really wanted the Nikon Z8 but in the end I went for a GFX camera and I've been very happy but I still yearned to maybe Own Z81 day
I’ve never seen anyone else with the sensor guard issue. Are there articles?
@@russandloz I saw a few posts on the Nikon page. I was on that page for a long time because I owned the Nikon D850. It is just a Facebook page for Nikon cameras and there was a few guys mentioning it on there. I'll see if there's any articles on it.
lucky guy!
Yeh.. the parking was the killer cost of the show :)
I went on the train the second day for £3.60 return from Coventry. Will do that next year
@@russandloz Its in London next year apparently (eXEL Centre) - if you weren't aware.. when you're close it will work out cheaper by train. When you coming from Yorkshire it's a little harder.
@@excipiomediadidn’t know that - wonder why they’re moving it ….
@lozzom Just googled and it's going to alternate between the NEC and London from now on, so 2025 in London, 2026 at the NEC, 2027 in London etc
@@cmartin_ok oh no!
Luv my z8
Were there any Zf deals at the show?
Not really I don’t think but if you Google Nikon Refurbished some have been put on the UK Nikon website today
I think it was £2000.
Video quality is really good compared to Z6s.
I’m not an expert in advance video. Is it with the different filming formats?
@@russandloz Did you record in 10bit h265?
@@ktcool4660 I usually use 8bit for our videos. What would be the advantage of using 10 bit or higher?
@@russandloz Higher dynamic range & a lot color depth. 8bit files are a no go for most of pro video work. You could easily get color banding when recording to 8bit files.
@@ktcool4660 I think for what I do it looks great. Never had those issues that I’ve noticed. If I was to make something for a client I would use a better format