Great video! I think that 'foreign object' was actually not something that someone jammed in, but rather an intentional security feature from Arrow's 'Flex ChoICe line'. This platform had keys with a hole in the bottom of the key that would run all the way from tip to bow. The idea was similar to Ruko's flexcore system.
LOL, I sure could have used this video six years ago, back when I was thrown into my job, which includes removing these cores sometimes. Two hours and still destroyed the cylinder trying to figure out the first one. Nowadays, 30 seconds start to finish, including installation of a replacement core.
Used to drill these out all the time working for best locks. Drill the pins out, the front face with the name can come off too. Just just a decent size flat head screw driver and it will move the side bar over and you can pop the core out
I love how you have pins falling out, I just did a Schlage LFIC and the bottom of the core fell out. The top is stuck in there, so I need to stick my bore CAM in there tomorrow to try and get it out.
Drilling direct to side bar is a match faster to enable the core to slide out... drilling the sheer line, putting the tailpiece at risk, not being able to reuse the core.
One thing u could show to us was how many milímiters u drill exatly until u can open it with a screwdriver beforw u destroy the lock ..each measure for each lock u test in future vídeos.
I had to drill out a bunch of Kaba Peaks SFIC once. And it broke my wittle hart.😢 But I learned how to do it with the least amount of damage by the end of them. In total there were 22 cores drilled. Because the office building had vandals stick superglue in every lock. Fkn SOBs
Steel Pinnings that's insane. That's a lot of work getting them up and running again. Plus the cost of the kaba cores are not cheap. Freakin people do some crazy stuff.
Steel Pinnings did you try a jet flame lighter to burn the super glue out? It might be an alternative to drilling in the future but beware of the fumes from the burning superglue. Or sometimes a piece of metal just big enough to fit in the keyhole - steel key blanks could be used and can be heated till it is red hot while holding it in pliers can be inserted in the keyhole to burn the glue out as you wiggle it up and down to dislodge the glued pins. The locks would need taking apart afterwards and repinned after using super glue remover to dissolve the remaining glue.
Agreed its a out dated example. This was done for people that have cant pick best cores but with to save the body of the lock. If you have any ideas for a core that you would like to see opened by force, let me know. Thanks for taking the time
Really?!! Very useless video. I lost my key so how could I take the lock out and keep on hitting it to get the debris and cylinders out. If that was the case I wouldn't need to...
@FalconerPhoto No, but they're mainly used for businesses and they're fairly expensive, so I'd assumed that the faceplates were hardened steel on sfics.... I guess not. They should be. Everything even semi-serious should have drill protection.
Anyone can butcher a lock when it's in a vise. A qualified locksmith working on a lock installed on a customers door would never do what you just displayed. Please, if you are working as a locksmith, get more training and learn better technique. "Training videos like this give professional locksmiths a bad name. I have been a locksmith for 45 years and am proud to say those of us who are truly invested in the trade don't approve of these vidios. There are scammers a plenty out there that think that a drill and a screwdriver makes them a pro.
Ok so if you had a locked up door with a core like that and the customer had no keys at all... controll key or otherwise... What would you do...? Please. I am willing to learn if you are willing to teach. Thnx
First the drill bit is too large, never go above 5/32" second you are nowhere near the shear line. This is NOT the way to drill any cylinder at all. I have been a locksmith for 39 years and am always horrified not only seeing things like this but more by the comments encouraging it.
Great video! I think that 'foreign object' was actually not something that someone jammed in, but rather an intentional security feature from Arrow's 'Flex ChoICe line'. This platform had keys with a hole in the bottom of the key that would run all the way from tip to bow. The idea was similar to Ruko's flexcore system.
LOL, I sure could have used this video six years ago, back when I was thrown into my job, which includes removing these cores sometimes. Two hours and still destroyed the cylinder trying to figure out the first one. Nowadays, 30 seconds start to finish, including installation of a replacement core.
Used to drill these out all the time working for best locks. Drill the pins out, the front face with the name can come off too. Just just a decent size flat head screw driver and it will move the side bar over and you can pop the core out
I love how you have pins falling out, I just did a Schlage LFIC and the bottom of the core fell out. The top is stuck in there, so I need to stick my bore CAM in there tomorrow to try and get it out.
I guess I'm 6 years too late for the drawing- lol. But your video is super helpful and I appreciate it!
Im pretty sure that arrow sfic has a specal key with a hole in it that fits into a steel rod in the bottom of the key way.
Nice to see some destructive tendencies played out! Nicely done bud!
I have way to much fun taking things apart. Its even better with power tools involved. Thanks for watching
Can you make a video on how I would do it if I didn't have the luxury to have the lock in my hand? What if it's in the field? Thanks for the video.
I was considering that exact scenario, I'll put a update video together. Thanks for the feedback
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Nice drilling. Cool video.
Randy Perkins Thanks bud
Drilling direct to side bar is a match faster to enable the core to slide out... drilling the sheer line, putting the tailpiece at risk, not being able to reuse the core.
much cleaner then when I do one...lol
Jeff Moss your probably using a freaky. Lol
Pretty cool, nice to know thanks bud.
Thanks again bobby.
One thing u could show to us was how many milímiters u drill exatly until u can open it with a screwdriver beforw u destroy the lock ..each measure for each lock u test in future vídeos.
Thanks got my ic core out
Glad I could Help.
It works a lot easier when you dont bang all the pins out
the control lug is all 7 pins, Arrow used that weird design for a bit but it's still all 7 pins.
Jeff Moss very cool, thanks for sharing the knowledge.
cool video m8🔐😊😊👍👍
Thanks Leon for watching.
Nice video,
I have one question... What do you do if the lock is in a door and you cant smack it over and over to get all the driver and keypins out??
Steel Pinnings that's a good point, well I'll have to try it out and see how it goes. Good thing I have two. Look forward to a update.
I had to drill out a bunch of Kaba Peaks SFIC once. And it broke my wittle hart.😢
But I learned how to do it with the least amount of damage by the end of them.
In total there were 22 cores drilled. Because the office building had vandals stick superglue in every lock. Fkn SOBs
Steel Pinnings that's insane. That's a lot of work getting them up and running again. Plus the cost of the kaba cores are not cheap. Freakin people do some crazy stuff.
Steel Pinnings did you try a jet flame lighter to burn the super glue out? It might be an alternative to drilling in the future but beware of the fumes from the burning superglue. Or sometimes a piece of metal just big enough to fit in the keyhole - steel key blanks could be used and can be heated till it is red hot while holding it in pliers can be inserted in the keyhole to burn the glue out as you wiggle it up and down to dislodge the glued pins. The locks would need taking apart afterwards and repinned after using super glue remover to dissolve the remaining glue.
ouch. poor lock. :(
West Coast Picks We had a little talk first and let it know that it was his time. He took it well I'd say. Thanks for watching
Random Locks lol. Sometimes it's just better that way.
First lock-drill I see,
Way too much talking.
'' WHEN YOU NEED A DRIL,MMMmmm,YOU NEED MORE PRATICE,,SORRY..''TEAZING,LOL..JUST STICK A POINTED ,ETC..IN THE SEWER HOLE..BADA BING,BADA BOOM'
try with a security lock, then you smile.your example is too old.
Agreed its a out dated example. This was done for people that have cant pick best cores but with to save the body of the lock. If you have any ideas for a core that you would like to see opened by force, let me know. Thanks for taking the time
Really?!! Very useless video. I lost my key so how could I take the lock out and keep on hitting it to get the debris and cylinders out. If that was the case I wouldn't need to...
That faceplate isn't hardened?? WTF - too easy
@FalconerPhoto No, but they're mainly used for businesses and they're fairly expensive, so I'd assumed that the faceplates were hardened steel on sfics.... I guess not. They should be. Everything even semi-serious should have drill protection.
Man the idea was to know the dificulty of opening the lock, u shouldnt clean it like u did, u destroyed the interess of the vídeo like that.
Anyone can butcher a lock when it's in a vise. A qualified locksmith working on a lock installed on a customers door would never do what you just displayed. Please, if you are working as a locksmith, get more training and learn better technique. "Training videos like this give professional locksmiths a bad name. I have been a locksmith for 45 years and am proud to say those of us who are truly invested in the trade don't approve of these vidios. There are scammers a plenty out there that think that a drill and a screwdriver makes them a pro.
Ok so if you had a locked up door with a core like that and the customer had no keys at all... controll key or otherwise... What would you do...? Please. I am willing to learn if you are willing to teach. Thnx
First the drill bit is too large, never go above 5/32" second you are nowhere near the shear line. This is NOT the way to drill any cylinder at all. I have been a locksmith for 39 years and am always horrified not only seeing things like this but more by the comments encouraging it.