Slavery at Jefferson's Monticello: Descendants reflect on landmark exhibition
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2013
- More than one million people visited this thought-provoking exhibition while it was on display at the Smithsonian National Museum of American History between January and October 2012. The landmark exhibition Slavery at Jefferson's Monticello: Paradox of Liberty was organized by Monticello and the Smithsonian's National Museum of African American History and Culture. Descendants of enslaved men and women who lived and worked at Monticello reflect on the exhibition opening.
My 5th great grand father was from Ireland. He owned slaves and he had 8 children by my 5th great grandmother. My mom side of the family carries his last name. Its not that I'm proud of the slavery part. But that sadly is our history.,What I am glad to know is that I know the history of my family and where my ancestors come from
This information is super interesting. I want to express my appreciation for the time and work you invested in producing it. Thanks so much!
This is a very important part of american history.
Jennifer Pruitt wow!
I like how they accept each others family relation to Thomas Jefferson and Sally hemmings: )
Money speaks all languages
It took a LONG time before the white side agreed to a DNA test !!!!!
1998...........
It didn't. They all donated DNA willingly and without delay. However, the descendants of Hemings have not agreed to have DNA donated from a Madison Hemings relative. I wonder why. It would be interesting to test it. Having reviewed all of the evidence pro and con, I do not think Madison Hemings is related to any Jefferson.
Madison is. Historians say her six children (4 surviving) are likely Jefferson's.
I'm a descendant of Willison Jefferson his daughter was Yahti Jefferson who married John Hanner who had 16 children. Willison Jefferson was born in Charlottesville, VA I had found his name on her marriage certificate to John Hanner
Yes, I can see the physical resemblance to each other among all of the descendants of Sally Hemmings and Thomas Jefferson. Fascinating!
Not really
Fascinating...no real tragedy
@Doug Evans For the life of me, I don't know why MY personal observation set you off, but maybe somebody in this two person discussion IS "insane". I know it's not me. Have a blessed life, Doug.🤦♀️🤔
So crazy is when I think of Sally Hemmings in my head, I think of a woman who resembles the woman at 1:38
I agree , and she is standing right in front of the photo of the ex slave " Isaac Jefferson " who described her looks.
Thomas was the only Jefferson male to be at Monticello at the times of each of Sally's conceptions, and she never conceived a child when he wasn't there. The evidence is all circumstantial but pretty overwhelming.
And hopefully he was good to her. He was good on his promise to free the children that they had together.
She never conceived a child when he wasn't there because when Jefferson wasn't there, the big house was locked up, no one visited, and the only people living on the top of the mountain, where Sally lived, were her sisters, her brothers, her nieces, nephews and Great George and Ursula, a married couple. There was no one there who could have impregnated her. On the other hand, when Jefferson was there, there were up to 50 overnight visitors at a time. The guides at Monticello will tell you that when Jefferson was home, there were more people at Monticello than in the city of Charlottesville. Remember, there was only one DNA match to "a Jefferson." And guess how many Jefferson males were at Monticello when that child was conceived? Hint: the answer is not "one."
yes, pretty good circumstantial evidence
@@melvawages7143 DNA test proved that they are Jefferson descendants.
It was actually Randall Jefferson on the dna test, not Thomas, if you see the evidence.
The images on the You Tube postings for this topic are all capturing strange not-all-together positive emotions. They look anxious or upset. Maybe find more upbeat images to advertise the Monticello museum and restoration. Great topic, though. I really enjoyed learning about the intent to be honest about slavery and plantation life.
Even without DNA there is no denying the Madison line. So many generations later and Shannon Lanier is the spitting image of Jefferson. It’s uncanny.
The Truth And Nothing But The Truth.
Excellent!
Priceless History.
It was only 200 years ago.
It’s great to see peopke enbracing their heritage & not trying to destroy their heritage! If not for our ancestors, we would not be.
I see an angry Sally with her hands on her hip saying " Why don't you all mind your own business"
It is extraordinary but I can truly see resemblance. That's how the human family is.
This is interesting. I think Jefferson would be proud of how far his descendants have come. And this is largely because of what he set in motion as a founder of the republic. He must have been very conflicted about slavery during his lifetime.
I am a 7th great granddaughter of Mary Hemings and Thomas Bell
divaofco So!
So! He knows his family line and history. Many AA don't know who the heck they are or where they come from and can only go back as their living grandparents.
Yes there was a mary. And she was a jackson before mary right? One of them mary's raised my grandmother.
and some think Mary was Jefferson's daughter through Betty Hemings who was not Wayles's daughter. Betty probably looked black since she only had one white grandparent. Mary's brother, Peter Fosset had the name of an Irish blacksmith who worked for Jefferson so it assumed he was his father but Mary had the surname Hemings indicating she had a different father but both were light so her father was white too.
@@TheBrownIsland they can go back to 1870 the census records where blacks who had been slaves were named. Only free persons of color were named in census records before that.
Wow this is amazing to see Thomas and Sally's descendants family members today how great is that.some look obviously white and some looked mixed.I'm so glad d.n.a.proves this long last story between Sally and Thomas relationship. Thomas family has the right to be aswell as Sally's family. Sally's mother and Sally's siblings has even been well documented that they was related to Thomas father and grandfather line the Wales family line.so they was connected way before Sally and Thomas was ever born Sally's mother worked for the Wales family in the house this has never been a shock or a surprise to me I'm glad it was confirmed. Thomas white relatives don't have to like or except their black family who cares but they will always be related like it or not.I'm mixed some except me and some don't so fuck it life still goes on.
Shannon Lanier the young man shown who had named his little boy Madison, his mother looks white. Madison's descendants never claimed white but they often married other light skinned blacks. Shannon's mother married a darker black man which is why he looks mixed, but many of Madison's descendants who you would think were white identify as black. Most of Eston Hemming's (who changed his last name to Jefferson) known descendants identify as white. Until the 1960's they had no idea their ancestor Eston was one eighth black. They did know that somehow they were related to Thomas Jefferson, but not how. No surprise since the early 20th century passed all those one drop laws. It probably became important not to claim they descended from Thomas Jefferson or they would no longer be white since he had no legitimate sons who lived to adulthood.
DNA TESTING. Bottom line. Tells all.
Whats so great about the fact they look mixed???
The Wayles were Thomas's inlaws, not his parents. Martha Wayles Jefferson and Sally Hemings were half sisters. He got involved with Sally about 5 years after Martha's death. Elizabeth Hemings, Sally's mother was biracial,, the daughter of a British ship's sea captain and slave woman.
So sally was 75% white and it was said she looked white.
Weird to know the person who treated your ancestor so badly and look so proud.
UVA's library has volumes of Jefferson's records.
Pausing between. 01:15 -01:26--. The nose , curve of lip, and jawline- strong resemblance
woah thats insane!
I noticed that
Background noise had me move on...
I had an uncle named _Thomas Jefferson._ His two best friends were _General Grant and Robert E. Lee._ All three of them were beautiful, inky black men. I dimly recall General, but Robert E. was our cousin, so he was around quite a bit. I must have been four or so when I asked him, "How come you never speak or smile?" "I don't have much to say," Robert E. (_always_ he was "Robert E.") rumbled in velvet tones that rolled like distant thunder. "But you _do_ make me smile." He had the whitest, most even, beautiful teeth I have ever seen, anywhere. Been digging into the genealogy, and I don't believe I am a descent of Jefferson and Sally. His manservant _Burwell_ is reputed in my family to have been Jefferson's maternal uncle; his mother (or grandmother's) half-brother.
Amazing story!
I like this story about this family not because they are the decented of the third president of America but the love between them on the first time they meet and the re union as one family ,no matter what colour they have ,they all came from one man, of course we can always feel that way in our hearts even if it the first time we meet with our blood relatives , we can feel we are related because blood is thicker than water and this family they are blood relations .It reminds me of the Bible that we all came from one parents and no one can deny this from Adam and Eve.
Wow I can totally tell that Amanda’s children will grow up to be beautiful women. I wonder where they are now??
i heard one is at the coast guard academy serving her nation!
f####### wow...this is a eye opener.
I am not proud that I am a distant cousin to Thomas Jefferson but I proud to be related to the Hemmings line.
thanks for letting us know!
Don’t let a man’s mistakes overshadow his good deeds when the good far outweighs the bad in the grand scheme of things. It is important to acknowledge the good and the bad, but make sure to be objective when analyzing which one was more impactful
Idiot!! The Hemmings have done NOTHING.
well done!
Interesting event and exhibition.
Mr. Hughes is a spitting image of the 3rd President...
Long before the final close of an illustrious literary career, I had so wanted historian/aristocrat, Gore Vidal, to enlarge as only he could on the Hemings/Jefferson debate. As an "insider," or having been to the manor born, I felt Vidal could've have given a three dimensional view of that period, touching upon even the cultural heritage of Caribbean Alexander Hamilton as well. Alas, it didn't happen. It wasn't his thing, I presume. But he could've given an indepth look at a relationship that was more than sexual, probably more loving and romantic than most care to accept and believe even to this day.
I am a descendant of Thomas Jefferson and Ms. Hemings.
TM Martin, would you be interested in talking with someone from our Getting Word oral history project?
@@TJMonticello please contact me... I would be interested. I also have Jefferson's in my family tree. However, I am a direct DNA descendant the Gov Wm. Stone & James Taylor family basically from Madison County, Kentucky.
bravo
40 & a mule how do you know it was not consensual
Jim Bob because she was a fourteen year old child slave who was obviously forced into the situation. thomas jefferson was a rapist pedophile who had sally as one of his stupid victims. i will never change my mind that he was raping her and she had seven children. do more research before you comment things like this. jefferson is burning in hell and he deserves nothing but his stupid declaration. out presidents suck. get used to it.
THOMAS JEFFERSON is my favorite Founding Father then George Washington and John Adams. Thomas Jefferson was a brilliant man. A flawed man but very brilliant. This nation is great because of his contributions. Along with the rest.
I wouldn't be proud of it. I see they kept it light snd bright.
I agree.
Its sickening and disturbing.
I think the way they have come to terms with a horrific past is quite commendable. Much more so than those who can't seem to get past something that happened to peoples who superficially resemble them by other peoples who look different, with all of them cold in the ground for quite some time now. May they all rest in peace and may the living seek it.
@@QIKWIA it's apart of history goofy
Did sally have a choice? Complex!!
No she didnt
Maybe. We know that at one point Jefferson brought Hemmings to Paris with him, and upon arriving there she became free and there would be no legal way for him to keep Hemmings against her will. Yet she still returned to America with him. Most historians also believe their relationship began in Paris under these circumstances as well.
Unfortunately we don't have any writings from Hemmings so we won't know for sure.
Well we really don’t know what was going on between Sally and Thomas. People who knew about the relationship said they were “cohabiting” which meant an unlawful union in the 19th century. She was also referred to as a concubine, which was another 19th century term used to describe a domestic partner/unlawful wife. TJ seems to have treated her pretty well (not in regard to the love/rape question): he rarely made her do hard work, her son saying it was light sewing at best. He allowed her and their children to roam around the great house, not having to worry about hard work. Also, TJ never made Sally or their children work in the fields, unlike so many other slaves at Monticello, as well as ensuring that their jobs were light.
When TJ died, Sally kept some of his most intimate items, such as a pair of his glasses and one of his inkwells. While obviously we will probably never know how she felt about him, as her sons and people who knew her kept mum about her feelings, the fact that she kept his most personal items and that they both kept their promises made in France (which she willingly came back to America) suggests something between the two. Perhaps it was just a business-like relationship, perhaps it was love, perhaps it was rape: the short answer is we will never truly know, but in a legal sense, it was statutory rape.
A slave doesn’t have a choice.
Continued... and ron desatan of florida doesn't want anyone outside of black families to know this history.
They all have prominent nasolabial folds and noses
Wow, Amanda is beautiful!
Respectfully, I agree. It's strange but when learning about Sally Hemings and reading descriptions of her and her heritage, I'd picture someone who'd closely resemble Amanda.
No I did not forget the circumstantial evidence as is stated in my reply. And circumstantial evidence is just that, it cannot be proven or disproven because of it's very nature. As to the Carr brother's they were included, until the DNA ruled them out, also by circumstantial evidence. So we are back to my original point as stated below.
It may well be just an illusion but I feel like the Jefferson nose is present in loads of his descendants!
She's gorgeous
You know that's just a drawing, made for a work of fiction, right? There are no likenesses of Sally Hemings. All we have are a couple of descriptions.
Who?
Sally Hemings was just over 15 when this sexual liaison started …what does that makes him ? Forget all the gloss historian has glazed over - look at the hard core facts.
"Old Master's brother, Mass Randall, was a mighty simple man: used to come out among black people, play the fiddle and dance half the night: hadn't much more sense than Isaac." -Isaac Jefferson, one of Thomas Jeffersons slaves
And yet, Randolph Jefferson being at Monticello on a few occasions prior to 1797 (when Isaac was given away to Jefferson's daughter and her husband) still does not place him there when Sally Hemings's children we conceived.
Again, whereas we have no evidence for Randolph's presence, we have clear and documented that Thomas Jefferson was present. And weigh that against Madisons Hemings's direct statement that Thomas Jefferson was his father. And that no one ever, ever talked about Randolph as the father until 1998.
Thomas Jefferson's Monticello Madison Hemings descendants had DNA tested and it came back as not being related to any Jefferson only Easton Hemings had a Jefferson link. I get trying to link Sally Hemings to T Jefferson because he was a great man but there is no evidence either through science or anecdote that will do that.
Madison Hemings's descendants were not tested because the test only followed a Y-chromosome haplotype through the male line. Are you perhaps confusing the Carr nephews? Their line showed no male-line links to the Jefferson family.
Wow, some look white, others look black!
some of sally kids married and lived as white peeps
+Cynthia eng Sally was 3/4 white, 1/4 black her mother had the same father as Jeffersons wife.
Sally was 3/4 white. Her mom was half white.
Colonel John Wayles Jefferson was the son of Eston Hemings. He was white and change his name to Jefferson. He was in charge of white men during the Civil War.
Sally herself was mixed-race and was rumored to be the illegitimate half-sister of Jefferson’s wife. Their children would’ve been light-skinned and at least some of them would’ve been able to pass for white and marry white husbands or wives despite the miscegenation laws at the time..
To use the she only got pregnant when he was there theory you would have to be able to also place where she and all other possible people were as well. This can not be done. Also the child claimed to be born in France was proved not to be related to the Jefferson family by the DNA test. Proximity does not equal paternity.
Definitely not rape, she got a fair edge on the deal. Freedom for her and her kids. Money, a home in Paris, her brother got a house in France. It was a beneficial agreement between the two. Snapshot of American history.
She wasn't freed in his will and James was still a slave for 3 more years.
being related or having the blood of Thomas Jefferson is not a trophy
We should all be respectful of our ancestors, no matter who they were. They made us who we are, today.
ptah, you are right, but we all want to know where we came from . I had a Irish gg grandfather who probably murdered 3 of his 5 wives(other 2 divorced him for wife beating) since all 3 died from circumstances that perhaps were not natural (example one supposedly fell from a horse, another fell downstairs supposedly, the other a "heart attack" )but he was still my gg grandfather..
They say she looked like her half sister, Martha Jefferson.
Very well said!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The descendants ive heard are behaving in a very proud and honorary way about how they "came to be"...
Nothing to be proud of.
They all had slaves. History 101.
Sally Hemming was a half sister to Thomas Jeffersons wife. She was his wife's personal maid and after his wife's death, companion to his daughters. I am in doubt to just how much a slave she actually was. I believe she was a willing participant in many things.
Sue Shaw He owned her, right? Case closed.
Sue Shaw She was a CHILD......period!
Don Rider you do realize she went with him to Paris? And while there lived as a free woman? She could have stayed there. But she didn't. She CHOSE to return to Va. And live with him at Monticello. Not too shabby considering it was 1700s. In case you don't remember, pretty much ALL women were slaves subject to their father or husband or son. (Gee sure sounds a lot like modern day Islam doesn't it?)
Couldn't vote, own property, or do anything without a man's involvement. No matter what your social class or color, free or slave.
She knew Jefferson her entire life. He was married to her half sister. So he was actually her brother in law. Then her half sister died. I believe they consoled each other after the death of Mrs Jefferson. And fell in love. He took her to Paris with him and to all the balls and galas as his lady. Not as a slave. She had custom made gorgeous ballgowns. Do slave owners usually do that? She was for every way and means a free woman in Paris!!
So why in the world would she leave that lifestyle? There is no other reason but love my friend!!
She lived inside the house at Monticello and had her own space and privacy. And 6 kids with Thomas later, none of which he ever denied, every child was freed and went on to live good lives. Once again, not too shabby for a woman who began her life in slavery. She was a smart lady!!
And Tom, he was an eccentric, brilliant man. A man who could have chosen ANY woman to be his, but against all social taboos and scrutiny he chose a half black slave woman to be his lady.
I bet they had the most amazing conversations, the most wonderful adventures on the grounds at Monticello!
Because at Monticello, they could be free from social scrutiny. I imagine them strolling arm and arm through the gardens with all the children playing around them.
I know you don't want to believe it, but go visit Monticello with an open mind. Wander around in the quiet gardens after touring the house. Close your eyes and imagine them there. Sally beautiful and smiling, Tom totally smitten beyond all measure...and you will understand...
She had 6 children, ALL with Jefferson!! No one else.....
ally wolf she was a fifteen year old child. Did it occur to you that she came back from Paris to be with her mother and other family. You are a delusional revisionist historian!
Sally Hemings did not go to Paris with Thomas Jefferson.
Jefferson liked the Chocolate.
Tanner Herzman they all liked the chocolate.
Tanner Herzman damn, right.
crazy, because they said we were animals. somebody was lying.
He was also a rapist
He was also a pedophile.
I thought that, as a question of science, that IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO CONFIRM that anyone was an ACTUAL desendent of T. Jefferson! But, that a general connection to the entire Jefferson family could be confirmed!
let us PLEASE stick to the actual TRUTH of things.
(sorry if I burst someone's bubble!)
Lotsa wannabe revisionist writers chiming in on the comments i see.
Many people bring up the story of Jefferson and Sally Hemmings as an example of hypocrisy, but they know little of history and less about women. Hemmings was, by all contemporary accounts, a stunningly beautiful woman who could easily pass for white. With those attributes, no woman was going to link her future with a field hand. When Jefferson was ambassador to France he requested that one of his slaves be sent to France to serve him. Hemmings cunningly maneuvered her way into this job, knowing she would be living far away with a wealthy man in his prime and her natural beauty would be impossible to resist. The narrative of the evil slave master forcing himself on a woman is totally false, and was actually quite the opposite. In France, slavery had already been outlawed, so the moment Hemmings stepped off the boat she was a free woman and could have simply found a place among the black population of Paris. However she chose the life of high society and the company of a wealthy man, so the relationship was not master and slave, but consensual between 2 free adults. When Jefferson returned to America, Hemmings did not have to accompany him, as she was a free woman, but she chose life with him under American law as being preferable to life in France. Back in America they continued the relationship and she bore at least 4 of his children. People ask why she remained a slave, but in the context of the times, many powerful men had extramarital relationships and having one with a slave was not uncommon, but had Jefferson given her freedom, then the morality of the day would not have allowed her to remain in his household. Therefore it is most likely that she agreed to remain a technical slave in order to remain with him. It is well known that his will clearly freed her and her children on his death.
She was a child of 14 when she became involved with Jefferson. A little young for cunning.
@@edithengel2284 Clearly you know nothing of history and even less of women.
Sally Hemings descendants are all attractive and handsome men and woman, lol the white side not so much although they have TJ facial sameness more their nose shape.
That being the case it is still true that in regard to the accepted descendents of the Hemmings family the DNA test only proves that they are desended from a male of the Jefferson family. The researcher performing the test admits that there are at least 8 possible fathers. If all evidence involved is taken into account and subjected to reasonable scrutiny it does not point to any single conclusion. Yet you and others try to make it a known fact. It cannot be proven or disproven by the evidence available. But by not giving a balanced look at the story you are doing a great injustice to all involved. Give all sides and not just one. This is the best way to let the truth of anything come out.
You forget circumstantial evidence. The fact she never had a child that he had not been at home at Monticello 9 months before and she had at least 7 children so she must have been fertile. So how come she went years without being pregnant? the same years he did not come to Monticello when he was in Washington? Besides why did his grandson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph blame the Carr brothers. Why did he not blame his mother's uncle instead of his mother's cousins? and it is proven by the Y marker that neither of the Carr brothers were Eston's father. But that was what historians believed for nearly 200 years because his grandson said so. Not until 1998 did they decide it was his brother or his brother's son, or some even said his uncle, his father's brother. OMG, bad enough a man 30 years older took a teenager for a concubine but now we want to believe a man 50 years older than her took her?
And you are missing more than half the story... at the time of the american Revolution, more than half the White population had recent ancestors that had been in servitude... The American colonies were the dumping grounds of all of English and Irish destitute, criminals, who were kidnapped off English and Irish streets, and along with the criminals put in chains and transported to the Carribbean and American colonies, sold on the auction block along with Blacks...In the year 1700, English reccords show that %90 of the slaves were white not black!!!
Imagine living in the current existing greatest empire of genius, morality, and power and the only thing anyone can talk about with these guys is the fact that they owner slaves. Pathetic. We live in the matrix
I think it's past time the revisionist history be loudly refuted. Our Founding Fathers were human traffickers that had sex slaves with what we do recognize are children. Despite what many people like to argue, morality does not change. You cant say, "Oh that was the 18th century, as if raping a teenage sex slave would be moral behavior in any century.
Who was Ariel Castro? We like to laugh at the drug addict who freed those girls back in 2013, but as a society we agree what that man did to those girls was despicable and he deserved nothing less than to be hung, or "given the electric chair." --or life in prison for what he had done.
But when it's white 18th Century Massa(s)' doing the same thing on an even grander industrial scale, for decades, it's somehow sanitized. How could this be. Why? What makes the actions of Jefferson and the other white rapist, murdering, torturers crimes against humanity (what any court in the world would does call it today) less heinous and despicable?
JustMatty80 how the hell do you know it was'ent consensual?
Jim Bob I feel Sally and Thomas loved each other. She could have stayed in Paris, a free woman, but CHOSE to come back to be with Tom!! Love is a whole nuther kind of slavery....
allyson Hansen I think you're right.,😐
Your evaluation of the atrocities of slavery is right on the money but you're simply wrong when you speak of Jeffersons alleged actions as fact. I'm not defending him if he did anything immoral as regards Sally Hemings but we simply don't have proof that she either was or was not sexually abused by Jefferson or that he sexually abused his other female slaves.
His ownership of slaves was in itself an abuse but we know next to nothing about the nature of his personal relationship with Sally and though I believe she bore his children the fact is that we don't know that to be true either. The DNA simply cannot be that specific.
I believe that coercion was inherent in their relationship, whatever its personal nature, and was likely unspoken and may very well have even been unconscious but whatever the case, we simply cannot know and to expound as if you know is simply disingenuous.
The idea that Thomas Jefferson fathered all of Sally Hemmings children has been disproven. The only child that Sally Hemmings bore, that had genes from a member of the Jefferson family, was the last one. Any male member of the extended, and numerous, Jefferson family could have been the father of the last child of Sally. Jefferson had many cousins, and a brother, that paid frequent visits to the estate. One male family member was known to frequent the slave quarters till late in the evenings, playing a fiddle and dancing with the slaves. Thomas Jefferson? Nope. Also, an overseer wrote down that he had seen an individual leaving Sally Hemmings bedchamber on numerous occasions, in the early morning hours. That individual was also not Thomas Jefferson...
Actually, it’s been proven. Sally only conceived when TJ was there at Monticello; TJ’s own close friend, John Hartwell Cocke, admitted the story was true TWICE in his private diary; Sally’s son, Madison, affirmed in his memoir that TJ was his father; another former Monticello slave, Israel Jefferson, said that Sally Hemings was TJ’s concubine; that “overseer” you mention was Edmund Bacon, who started working for TJ months after the girl (Harriet Hemings) who he claimed couldn’t have been conceived with TJ, was conceived; and the best evidence is that TJ’s own white family accused the Carr brothers (though they could never get their story straight on which one) that they were the father of all of her children, this has obviously been disproven through DNA evidence that Eston Hemings was not a Carr; no other male Jeffersons besides Thomas were always there when she conceived. This pretty much proves that TJ’s white family were lying the entire time to protect grandpa’s reputation.
Also, Randolph Jefferson (the fall guy for the deniers) was only possibly there during one conception, though it’s not clear if he showed up. There is no reason to doubt that TJ was the father of Sally’s children, denial is merely a River in Egypt.
The one child of Sally Hemings that descended from a Jefferson (Easton the youngest) was most likely sired by Randolph Jefferson since Madison was born in 1805, when Thomas Jefferson was in DC and Sally Hemings was in Monticello. Easton was conceived during T. Jefferson's second term in 1807. No DNA evidence has shown that Madison Hemings is a descendant of any Jefferson.
Richard Hoffman There’s no evidence that Randolph Jefferson was present at Monticello then, whereas we know Jefferson was. Also Randolph was never put forward as the father until after the DNA ruled out the Carr nephews.
The gentleman mentioned Madison Hemming and my understanding is only Easton Hemming had proof that he was descended from a Jefferson. We do have a surviving letter from T. Jefferson to R. Jefferson inviting him to stay at Monticello around the time Easton was conceived.
Thomas Jefferson's Monticello we do have a letter from T Jefferson inviting R Jefferson to stay at Monticello around the time Easton was conceived and we know that R Jefferson was still "potent" as he would later marry and have several children after Easton Hemming was born.
@@TJMonticello
In fact you have no evidence but only speculation. What Monticello is presenting is woke history or fantasy history.
@@richardhoffman5769 It's Eston, not Easton.
this is really nothing to be proud about. so this young man needs to not brag about this garbage. one should not forget this history, but one should not embrace it either. it is shameful what that little girl Sally (Sarah) went through. she had no say so in her life or those bastard kids that were produced.
I agree with half of the stuff your saying but the last part is a no, did they ask to be born NO they came into this world and even though the sorry excuse of and tragedy of between there parents the best thing that came out of it was the children. nobody knows what really happened could have been consensual maybe not but at the end of the day what happened to her was a tragedy but leave the kids out of it.
Did I miss something? It's not proven?? Wow??
It can't be proven even if he had a legitimate male descendant from his wife since all Jefferson direct line descendants would have the same Y marker chromosome. They would have to exhume Thomas Jefferson and Eston's bodies to know for sure. No one knows where Madison was buried, well the graveyard, but his grave had no marker. Sally's other children disappeared into the white community and no one knows any more about them so only Eston could be tested. However before they found the Y marker in Eston's direct male line descendant it was assumed Jefferson's sister's sons,(the Carr brothers) one of them or both of them fathered Sally's children. Historians believed that for nearly 200 years until 1998 when it was found they had the Jefferson Y marker and not the Carr Y marker. . You see the Y marker is handed down from father to son, not father to daughter -so all men and their male cousins from their father's brothers have the same Y marker.
There is overwhelming evidence besides the DNA: Sally only conceived when TJ was at home; TJ’s neighbors said the story was true; Jefferson went as far to petition the VA state legislature to allow his children with Sally to stay in VA (there was a law then that allowed freed slaves to be re-enslaved after a year); Madison Hemings said TJ was his father in his memoir; TJ’s friend, John Hartwell Cocke, admitted the story was true twice in his own private diary; Israel Jefferson, a former Monticello slave, said Sally was TJ’s concubine; and the most damming evidence is that TJ’s white family claimed that the Carr brothers (they could never agree on which one), his nephews, were the father of all of her children, obviously this isn’t true knowing that Eston had the Jefferson Y-Chromosome.
TJ’s white family was by all means anxious to and ready to protect his reputation, even if that meant hiding the knowledge of the plantation wife he had.
@@melvawages7143 There is overwhelming evidence besides the DNA: Sally only conceived when TJ was at home; TJ’s neighbors said the story was true; Jefferson went as far to petition the VA state legislature to allow his children with Sally to stay in VA (there was a law then that allowed freed slaves to be re-enslaved after a year); Madison Hemings said TJ was his father in his memoir; TJ’s friend, John Hartwell Cocke, admitted the story was true twice in his own private diary; Israel Jefferson, a former Monticello slave, said Sally was TJ’s concubine; and the most damming evidence is that TJ’s white family claimed that the Carr brothers (they could never agree on which one), his nephews, were the father of all of her children, obviously this isn’t true knowing that Eston had the Jefferson Y-Chromosome.
TJ’s white family was by all means anxious to and ready to protect his reputation, even if that meant hiding the knowledge of the plantation wife he had.
Thomas Jefferson should be burnt in effigy every year.
@Craig F. Thompson You say all those that participated in or supported in slavery should be burnt in effigy? That would include the Democrat party. They were the party with the pro-slavery platform, they were the party who did the Trail of Tears, They were the party who authored Jim Crow laws. So, let's see start there. I'll wait
@Craig F. Thompson Those guys aren't slaveowners...
@Craig F. Thompson I'm not white, but I've never been to prison because I don't lead a life that would attract police.
@Craig F. Thompson What kind of trouble, and what are the statistics
This Shannon is really milking this mith, that his slave ancester was in a loving relationship with our 3rd President...lol...
SHE NEVER LOVED HIM. PERIODT.
He must have been desperate ...... :)
She was his wife's half sister. It seems natural that he would fall for her.
Jefferson himself did not father these children, his brother was responsible for them
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