Saw arrived yesterday ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and today I cut about 3/4 cord of wood with it. Make sure you get an extension chord that is at least 12 gauge wire, minimum. This is my first electric in about 10 years, and things sure have improved. The self-sharpener works great, and it just kept cutting through some pretty decent logs. Wear your eye protection, and ear protection. Excellent saw.
Thank you for giving us an intelligent, well done video. No wasted time or needless talking. Perhaps the price comparison and warranty would also be helpful. I would like see battery saws demonstrated in cold climate like -15C. Our Canadian winters keep me from switching to battery.
All you need to do is keep the battery in your house or heated garage until use. In your truck on the way, or in a bag with a couple hand warmers. I live in northern Minnesota. Once you put it to use it generates its own heat. You could use one in -20 if you start warm.
I ended up buying a Makita 2x18 volt (36 volt) arborist saw. I used extensively this past winter without issues. You are correct, the battery does warmup with use. I would say that unless you can use an existing platform like Makita or Dewalt etc, the price point to purchase extra batteries makes the cost of battery saws prohibitive. Since I have a variety of Makita tools, batteries aren’t an issue.
@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining Try and get hold of the BLi200X battery for the 540? Only the Bli200X and BLi300 batteries are Hq approved for the 500 series chainsaws because of the extra power they put out?
Very good video, thanks... What ofcourse would also be very nice to know, how many charges can you do these batteries. When are they worn out? Any knowledge c.q. experience on that with the different brands?
On the side by side 20 x 20 you angled the Echo significantly compared to the Stihl or Husqvarna which effectively gave it a smaller diameter. True, the echo cut a continuous thickness but the other two, though starting out thinner, had to cut through a thicker center section.
Well done, thanks a lot! 🙂 I´m about to trade in my MS271 for the quiet & handy MSA200, but with a 300 or 300S battery instead of the 200 you use in your setup. Really looking forward to it. 🙂
Good test. I need to go back and review which one consistently stalled with the 2 kg overload (Edit: Husky!) The tapered shape of Stihl's bar puts it at a disadvantage in bore cutting because the length of cutting surface increases with the depth of cut. Non tapered bars don't do this.
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@Kabir Khalid i really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
Thanks for the video ! I own a Echo dcs2500 and i'm in love with it, it's a pure bomb ! Do you know if Echo will release a new battery chainsaw like the dcs1600 but with more power ?
I have Husqvarna 535ixp but my battery is Bli300 not Bli200 like your battery and i think my battery is more powerful. Do you knov how much time i must leave the battery for charging for the first time? 45 hours or less ?
Rusu, thanks for your question The reason for using this type of battery is to have a fair compare between the brands. AP200 Bli 200 and 2P battery have the same/similar engergy density (Wh = what provides the power.) If I would have used the BLI300 It would be like comparing a 40cc chainsaw versus a 60cc chainsaw. A BLI 300 will provide you more power, but it will increase also the weight and if you look to the lifetime of a higher capacity battery in combintion with a Quick charger it will decrease the lifetime or number of charging cycles you can get out of this higher capacity battery.
Super good video. I think the comparison on blades should be pointed out. If I am not mistaken the Stihl uses the Picco 1/4 inch blade and the others use a 3/8ths inch blade right?
@@eddierobles3129 look to the answer from Lokanas, the AP200, BLI200 and 2P are having approximately the same Wh ~185Wh that makes is a fair compare in terms of performance and charginge time.
@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining ... For the best comparison in performance you need the best battery available for each chainsaw because some of the models may electronically reduce power output to save batteries with low capacity. The same principle we can see in electric cars. Bigger battery pack means more kW. You will surely feel the difference in performance between AP 200 and AP 300S inserted in Stihl MSA 200 ( or even more in MSA 220 ).
Battery charging time for different battery and different power supply ?? Husqvarna have several power supplies and his bettery line has more capacities battery .
The point of the test is to compare the same class saws with comparable amount of energy onboard. Exaggerated: You wouldn’t compare MS 170 vs 572XP, right?
@@lokaniukas but the line of accumulators are different . So the capacity of Stihl battery is 4Ah , Husqvarna has 5.2Ah bl200 if I remember for same position in line. And Husqvarna had different power supplies qc80, qc330, qc500. The power of different power supplies are different and speed of the charge is also different. If you want to quickly charge , simple please buy more powerful supply .
@@Deniskamir energy capacity is measured in Wh. You can rewire for example 10 cells any way you want, it will be able to emit the same Watt power in one hour.
@@lokaniukas it can be Wh, it can be Ah . Doesn’t metter. Stihl mark in Wh, Husqvarna use Ah. The formula is W=IU, there W -power, U - voltage , I - current. So if you want to transfer Wh to Ah you can make Wh/U, where U=36 V ( voltage of the Husqvarna and Stihl battery).
@@Deniskamir every maker states Wh on the battery as it is mandatory energy amount measurement. So do electric vehicles (kWh). I am perfectly aware of how it is calculated/measured. Note, 100/200/300 for those manufacturers shows the number of cells 10/20/30 hence the energy capacity increase. X/S means the alternative type of cells.
I've seen a number of videos of the Stihl chainsaws (and lawnmowers) they typically show that they do not perform as well as their competitors, and are way more expensive. Too bad considering how good the 2 cycle products are.
I have a 535iXP that I bought new and it has bee a TERD since day 1. I can only make a few cuts (always less than 10) and then it flashes the overheat signal and won't work again for 20 mins or so. Does not matter if it's summer or winter. Brought it to a dealer when it was still under warranty and they blamed the battery, not the saw. Took them almost a YEAR to get me a new battery (factory back order) now I am out of the warranty period, and the saw still won't do more than 10 cuts. Friend has one and his works great. Swap his battery for mine and his saw is still good and mine sucks. Husqvarna customer support won't help! They just refer me to a dealer. Dealer won't help because its out of warranty. Bought this new and have literally made less than 100 cuts with it. Total junk and even a "PRO" saw like this is no good and si I wasted a ton of money and Husq won't stand behind their product. Buyer Beware. By the way, I have a lot of other Husq equipment that has done well for me but this was a total waste. First time I splurged on Pro and just got hosed.
The winner for quietness is Echo, the winner for aesthetics and ergonomics is Stihl. The horizontal inserting of battery in Husqvarna is quite ugly way to invent something unnecessary...
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Saw arrived yesterday ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and today I cut about 3/4 cord of wood with it. Make sure you get an extension chord that is at least 12 gauge wire, minimum. This is my first electric in about 10 years, and things sure have improved. The self-sharpener works great, and it just kept cutting through some pretty decent logs. Wear your eye protection, and ear protection. Excellent saw.
Thank you for giving us an intelligent, well done video. No wasted time or needless talking. Perhaps the price comparison and warranty would also be helpful. I would like see battery saws demonstrated in cold climate like -15C. Our Canadian winters keep me from switching to battery.
All you need to do is keep the battery in your house or heated garage until use. In your truck on the way, or in a bag with a couple hand warmers. I live in northern Minnesota. Once you put it to use it generates its own heat. You could use one in -20 if you start warm.
I ended up buying a Makita 2x18 volt (36 volt) arborist saw. I used extensively this past winter without issues. You are correct, the battery does warmup with use. I would say that unless you can use an existing platform like Makita or Dewalt etc, the price point to purchase extra batteries makes the cost of battery saws prohibitive. Since I have a variety of Makita tools, batteries aren’t an issue.
I bought the Echo. Fantastic saw. Buying an additional battery for longer stays in the woods. Great product.
Great video. Do it again but with a Stihl MSA 220 C on an AP 300 S battery against the same chainsaws. I would love to see that video
Working on it :)
Just got a MSA 220 C with same battery...nice machine!
thats exactly what I'm looken into buying
I own a MSA200 with AP300 battery and its much quicker than the one tested here in the video.. it cuts faster than my Stihl MS250CBE
Its coming up on wednesday. :)
Weight ? Each saw? Am 86 years old……thanx Rich Rice
Hello Richard,
Weights including Battery, Chain & bar and oil
The Stihl MSA 220 = 5,6kg
Husqvarna 540iXP = 5,7kg
Echo DCS-3500 = 5,5kg
Repeat the test with dcs 1600/ Husqvarna 540i xp/ stihl msa 220c ap300s
Take a look at my channel on Wednesday 21/04 11AM CET. :)
This was a great video! Thanks for making it. I love my Echo Gas chainsaws and it looks like the new Echo battery saws are the ones to beat.
Soon I will do another one with MSA220 and 540iXP, but that last one is still not available. As soon it's there a new compare will show up. :)
@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining Try and get hold of the BLi200X battery for the 540? Only the Bli200X and BLi300 batteries are Hq approved for the 500 series chainsaws because of the extra power they put out?
Very good video, thanks... What ofcourse would also be very nice to know, how many charges can you do these batteries. When are they worn out? Any knowledge c.q. experience on that with the different brands?
VERY GOOD JOB ...ECHO CHAINSAW DID A LOT BETTER THEN I EXPECTED ...THANKS FOR THE INFO
On the side by side 20 x 20 you angled the Echo significantly compared to the Stihl or Husqvarna which effectively gave it a smaller diameter. True, the echo cut a continuous thickness but the other two, though starting out thinner, had to cut through a thicker center section.
Excellent comparison, thank you.
Hey, what is in your opinion the better erconomic saw? The msa 220 or the 535i xp?
Aside from the charging time, you should explain the battery capacity, motor size and let them run together at full charge and see which lasts longer.
Great test comparison. Thanks
Thanks
Simply the best trainer of trainers
I think the MSA200 is recomended to use with the AP300battery.. thats why it seemed slow in this test. My MSA200 with AP300 is lightning fast
AP200 works as well, but I'll make a new one soon with AP300
Like the Video! Good test . Shoud some people convince to think different....
Well done, thanks a lot! 🙂 I´m about to trade in my MS271 for the quiet & handy MSA200, but with a 300 or 300S battery instead of the 200 you use in your setup. Really looking forward to it. 🙂
Very nicely done! Great video Jan!👍
So it seems that you can get different batteries for one model, at least the more popular ones?
Hi Andy, yes there are different types of batteries, at the moment it was the most suitable and fair compare.
Good comparison. I appreciated the information
You used some different methods to test the saws and I like how you done it 👍🏻
Thanks, I'll try to bring more....
Good test. I need to go back and review which one consistently stalled with the 2 kg overload (Edit: Husky!)
The tapered shape of Stihl's bar puts it at a disadvantage in bore cutting because the length of cutting surface increases with the depth of cut. Non tapered bars don't do this.
Sorry to be so offtopic but does someone know a way to get back into an Instagram account??
I somehow lost the login password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me!
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@Kabir Khalid i really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
@Kabir Khalid It worked and I now got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
Thanks so much you really help me out !
@Ronnie Sullivan happy to help :D
Thanks for the video ! I own a Echo dcs2500 and i'm in love with it, it's a pure bomb !
Do you know if Echo will release a new battery chainsaw like the dcs1600 but with more power ?
Hi JPF, not that I'm aware of.
So which is best overall?
I have Husqvarna 535ixp but my battery is Bli300 not Bli200 like your battery and i think my battery is more powerful. Do you knov how much time i must leave the battery for charging for the first time? 45 hours or less ?
Rusu, thanks for your question The reason for using this type of battery is to have a fair compare between the brands. AP200 Bli 200 and 2P battery have the same/similar engergy density (Wh = what provides the power.) If I would have used the BLI300 It would be like comparing a 40cc chainsaw versus a 60cc chainsaw. A BLI 300 will provide you more power, but it will increase also the weight and if you look to the lifetime of a higher capacity battery in combintion with a Quick charger it will decrease the lifetime or number of charging cycles you can get out of this higher capacity battery.
Would you plan on doing a comparison of the ECHO vs the Stihl 220 with their MS300 batterie? Any thoughts how it will come out? Thanks
Yes hopefully this fall.
Nice video, explained well, top Jan!
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Nice saw test, good details and good video-cut.
😎👍
Greetings Dirk
Wow, super video👏👏👏👌👌
Nice t-shirt, where did you get that? -any sponsor?
Yes, I had this Helly Hansen T shirt for free.
Super good video. I think the comparison on blades should be pointed out. If I am not mistaken the Stihl uses the Picco 1/4 inch blade and the others use a 3/8ths inch blade right?
Hi Nigel, that's correct. It's mentioned in the chart
NOT ONLY THAT BUT HES USING AN AP200 BATTERY LOL YOU NEED THE BETTER ONE (AP300) FOR A REAL COMPARISON.
Eddie Robles they are the closest for obvious direct comparison not only for work but also for charging as they hold nearly the same energy.
@@eddierobles3129 look to the answer from Lokanas, the AP200, BLI200 and 2P are having approximately the same Wh ~185Wh that makes is a fair compare in terms of performance and charginge time.
@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining ... For the best comparison in performance you need the best battery available for each chainsaw because some of the models may electronically reduce power output to save batteries with low capacity. The same principle we can see in electric cars. Bigger battery pack means more kW. You will surely feel the difference in performance between AP 200 and AP 300S inserted in Stihl MSA 200 ( or even more in MSA 220 ).
Battery charging time for different battery and different power supply ?? Husqvarna have several power supplies and his bettery line has more capacities battery .
The point of the test is to compare the same class saws with comparable amount of energy onboard. Exaggerated: You wouldn’t compare MS 170 vs 572XP, right?
@@lokaniukas but the line of accumulators are different . So the capacity of Stihl battery is 4Ah , Husqvarna has 5.2Ah bl200 if I remember for same position in line. And Husqvarna had different power supplies qc80, qc330, qc500. The power of different power supplies are different and speed of the charge is also different. If you want to quickly charge , simple please buy more powerful supply .
@@Deniskamir energy capacity is measured in Wh. You can rewire for example 10 cells any way you want, it will be able to emit the same Watt power in one hour.
@@lokaniukas it can be Wh, it can be Ah . Doesn’t metter. Stihl mark in Wh, Husqvarna use Ah. The formula is W=IU, there W -power, U - voltage , I - current. So if you want to transfer Wh to Ah you can make Wh/U, where U=36 V ( voltage of the Husqvarna and Stihl battery).
@@Deniskamir every maker states Wh on the battery as it is mandatory energy amount measurement. So do electric vehicles (kWh). I am perfectly aware of how it is calculated/measured. Note, 100/200/300 for those manufacturers shows the number of cells 10/20/30 hence the energy capacity increase. X/S means the alternative type of cells.
What battery was in the Stihl? Thanks
AP200 all batteries had about the same battery Wh in order to have a fair compare.
I've seen a number of videos of the Stihl chainsaws (and lawnmowers) they typically show that they do not perform as well as their competitors, and are way more expensive. Too bad considering how good the 2 cycle products are.
Yes I agree about the 2T engines, unfortunately authorities forcing manufacturers in this new technology...
well done jan loving the videos
Thank you Mark!
I have a 535iXP that I bought new and it has bee a TERD since day 1. I can only make a few cuts (always less than 10) and then it flashes the overheat signal and won't work again for 20 mins or so. Does not matter if it's summer or winter. Brought it to a dealer when it was still under warranty and they blamed the battery, not the saw. Took them almost a YEAR to get me a new battery (factory back order) now I am out of the warranty period, and the saw still won't do more than 10 cuts. Friend has one and his works great. Swap his battery for mine and his saw is still good and mine sucks. Husqvarna customer support won't help! They just refer me to a dealer. Dealer won't help because its out of warranty. Bought this new and have literally made less than 100 cuts with it. Total junk and even a "PRO" saw like this is no good and si I wasted a ton of money and Husq won't stand behind their product. Buyer Beware. By the way, I have a lot of other Husq equipment that has done well for me but this was a total waste. First time I splurged on Pro and just got hosed.
The winner for quietness is Echo, the winner for aesthetics and ergonomics is Stihl. The horizontal inserting of battery in Husqvarna is quite ugly way to invent something unnecessary...
Hi Daniel, thank you for your comment, Why do you think the horizontal battery insert is ugly?
it looks than the echo is that clear winner here but the deals that husqvarna is having is beating sthil and echo
Sthil MSA 200 It doesn't give full power with the AP 200 battery it nead to be AP 300 to get full power.
Что то тут не то, не чисто. Тест с ведром, видно как чувак одной пиле помогает усилием руки, а другим нет.
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Go the Echo.
Echo all the way
Ma che cazzo di prova è ?
Another example, that brand names mean nothing but wasted money these days.
Sharp the husky and stihl!!!
The 3 had brand new chains on them...
Echo Won
It was interesting i don't have the sthil msa 200 i have the 220 but this one compared with sthil 161T feels like a Chinese thing.
Your sponsored by echo so of course you will say echo is best.
I’m not sponsored. And as you will see in other movies Echo doesn’t always come out as the best and I’m showing that too.
unfair test he is wearing eco clothing sponser
Only gas chains theese are fake 😠
Meh, I've run all the big gas saws. I dig the electric stuff.