There's just no way to charge them and there hasn't been an EV yet that has the range, seating, cargo capacity, price (without tax payer bailout) to freely compete in the marketplace.
At $60K the Liriq isn't profitable without government assistance. We're all stuck paying for them. And when the battery dies on the second-hand owner, he/she won't have the money to replace it, because the maintenance/replacement costs aren't incremental.
You are 100% correct Something that is rarely if ever mentioned is it will decimate the used car market because when the battery packs go bad on a 10 or 12-year-old car it will mechanically total the vehicle due to the cost involved and will disproportionately affect poor and lower middle class that can't afford to buy vehicles every few years.
My opinion: I like electric vehicles. I also like combustion vehicles. But electric cars shouldn't be the standard right now. Especially by 2030. No matter what WEF or auto corps say. It should be a luxury thing, and just like all other technologies, you wait a little while and then it will become the standard. But by then we will probably have figured out am infrastructure big enough to support them. But right now? Nahhh. So yeah. Have fun with that 60k toy, ill be following the stories, but I'll wait until its reasonable. 😂
Ultimately, the government leverage for EVs will prove a ruse for mass transit. Wanna prove EV viability? Get rid of the government leverage, the respect for AGW contextual frauds, the carbon credits, the various incentives and disincentives the rest of us ultimately pay. Deer don't run from my gasoline cars, either. Heck, quite often they run right into 'em.
BTW, well over a century ago the EV was a novelty for wealthy folks. Considering their real unsubsidized cost, they are still novelties for the wealthy.
I agree we should have both (only where it makes sense) but way more people need to be driving electrics if we want to actually meet our goals. The problem is we don't have forever to make a transition and we need to reduce emissions as fast as possible. People keep focusing on the inconvenience and lose sight of why we are transitioning away from ICE engines. We are nowhere close to where we need to be and our energy demands keep going up. So we either throw up our hands in defeat and ditch electric altogether and or we make big sacrifices. What's the solution?
They already are practical for anyone that can charge where they park. Level two or at least level one chargers where people that don't own homes park is more important than fast chargers. Fast chargers only matter on very long trips. That network is already very good for Teslas but not for other EVs.
I've owned five vehicles in my lifetime and I didn't spend 60k on all of them combined... My childhood home recently sold for 120k. So yeah, at just 60k...
I think future electric vehicles will use wirelessly beamed electricity (directly from the grid) and will therefore have no need for batteries to store energy.
Hello I would like to meet Jay he might like what I have to say I changed all the gm service manuals for code 13 and 45 the throttle body also created the running compression test the volume metric efficiency test
Yes for $60,000 you get a car that has a $15,000 buyers premium over a gasoline equivalent and that's guaranteed to go bad within 8 to 12ish years causing you to spend 1000s of dollars or repairs no matter how well you takecare of it. Not to mention It takes way longer to "fill up" can't travel vast distances in a reasonable amount of time, has range issues when it is extremely hot or cold, requires a functioning power grid which in most areas isn't up to the task with current electrical demands. About The only positive and electric car has over a gasoline counterpart is instantaneous vast torque But in real world driving you'll never need the amount of torque that a new average gasoline engine can produce in its maximum let alone What an electric car can potentially do. Battery operated cars are a joke for the average person leave cordless tools for the garage/shop not for our highways.
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There's just no way to charge them and there hasn't been an EV yet that has the range, seating, cargo capacity, price (without tax payer bailout) to freely compete in the marketplace.
At $60K the Liriq isn't profitable without government assistance. We're all stuck paying for them. And when the battery dies on the second-hand owner, he/she won't have the money to replace it, because the maintenance/replacement costs aren't incremental.
You are 100% correct
Something that is rarely if ever mentioned is it will decimate the used car market because when the battery packs go bad on a 10 or 12-year-old car it will mechanically total the vehicle due to the cost involved and will disproportionately affect poor and lower middle class that can't afford to buy vehicles every few years.
I like jay he tells it like it is how it was and how it should be
My opinion:
I like electric vehicles.
I also like combustion vehicles.
But electric cars shouldn't be the standard right now. Especially by 2030. No matter what WEF or auto corps say.
It should be a luxury thing, and just like all other technologies, you wait a little while and then it will become the standard.
But by then we will probably have figured out am infrastructure big enough to support them. But right now? Nahhh.
So yeah. Have fun with that 60k toy, ill be following the stories, but I'll wait until its reasonable. 😂
Ultimately, the government leverage for EVs will prove a ruse for mass transit. Wanna prove EV viability? Get rid of the government leverage, the respect for AGW contextual frauds, the carbon credits, the various incentives and disincentives the rest of us ultimately pay.
Deer don't run from my gasoline cars, either. Heck, quite often they run right into 'em.
BTW, well over a century ago the EV was a novelty for wealthy folks. Considering their real unsubsidized cost, they are still novelties for the wealthy.
I agree we should have both (only where it makes sense) but way more people need to be driving electrics if we want to actually meet our goals. The problem is we don't have forever to make a transition and we need to reduce emissions as fast as possible. People keep focusing on the inconvenience and lose sight of why we are transitioning away from ICE engines. We are nowhere close to where we need to be and our energy demands keep going up. So we either throw up our hands in defeat and ditch electric altogether and or we make big sacrifices. What's the solution?
They already are practical for anyone that can charge where they park. Level two or at least level one chargers where people that don't own homes park is more important than fast chargers. Fast chargers only matter on very long trips. That network is already very good for Teslas but not for other EVs.
I think used to augment the internal combustion engine in applications that make sense. But not as a primary vehicle!
If the question is as open as "Favorite Electric Vehicle" my choice is the Permobile, more important for individual freedom than any electric car IMO.
So while your driving anywhere where deer cross, they won't hear you, and you will hit it. Awesome
See Mr. Beans thoughts on EVs.
easy for a rich man to think just 60k ..at just 60k??
I've owned five vehicles in my lifetime and I didn't spend 60k on all of them combined...
My childhood home recently sold for 120k. So yeah, at just 60k...
We are still in the early adopter phase. Patience!
I think future electric vehicles will use wirelessly beamed electricity (directly from the grid) and will therefore have no need for batteries to store energy.
Hello I would like to meet Jay he might like what I have to say I changed all the gm service manuals for code 13 and 45 the throttle body also created the running compression test the volume metric efficiency test
Motor Trend is now funded by ESG groups.
Johnny is such a mensch
You know what also isn't out in the middle of nowhere? An AC outlet.
Wow, neither is a gas station
A deer out in the desert? Weird lol
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Yes for $60,000 you get a car that has a $15,000 buyers premium over a gasoline equivalent and that's guaranteed to go bad within 8 to 12ish years causing you to spend 1000s of dollars or repairs no matter how well you takecare of it. Not to mention It takes way longer to "fill up" can't travel vast distances in a reasonable amount of time, has range issues when it is extremely hot or cold, requires a functioning power grid which in most areas isn't up to the task with current electrical demands.
About The only positive and electric car has over a gasoline counterpart is instantaneous vast torque But in real world driving you'll never need the amount of torque that a new average gasoline engine can produce in its maximum let alone What an electric car can potentially do.
Battery operated cars are a joke for the average person leave cordless tools for the garage/shop not for our highways.
You sound like Tom Segura
The best EV ever created for the money is Model S Plaid and it will go as the greatest car ever built in the history books!!
Till now. There is always a next big thing just down the road.
The best electric car is a burnt one