We bought a 2024 Toyota Grand Highlander late last year. It was a $50k plus car. It has a 4 cylinder turbo engine. Coming from a 2019 Acura MDX we immediately felt the difference in power. The Grand Highlander was loud and felt under powered for the size of the car. The hood wobbled even when stationary at a stop light. I say all this to say that it is possible they are cutting corners like this on the new Forerunner. More than likely, you’re gonna feel the engine struggling and loud. I wound up trading the Grand Highlander for an Acura 2024 and am much happier.
@@edmlegend7224 Second this - there is no 4cyl turbo-charged engine that will not be loud, noisy and I am talking about a really bad sound of a noise - and of course the struggle to deliver power. Toyota really made a wrong decision to install that crap across almost all of their vehicles.
Agree, wife and I came from a 2020 Highlander and had a 2024 Grand Highlander Limited AWD for one year. The 4 cylinder feels so underpowered compared to the previous V6 in the Highlander, we just traded it back in. We loved the space and size of the Grand Highlander but the mpgs and 4 cylinder were awful..
On the Toyota website the 4Runner Platinum base price is $62,800.....the base price of the standard TRD off road..non I-Force Max is $50,000. the one you are showing us is $62,800
Absolutely correct. Just wait until the grease balls at the dealership get their hands one them. We'll probably be looking at 65-70k plus all the other stuff they want to shove down our throats... Single handedly the worst culprit of killing the auto market.
If it's a mid size get Mazda CX90 plug in made in Japan. If its a 2 row off roader, get GX550O made in Japan. If you need a proper 3 row suv made in Japan, get 25 Armada/Patrol pro 4x. Your welcome. 💀
@@ajtulipsyep just hold off on getting a new car until you’re absolutely sure it’s the car you want I just bought a new car hyundai Santa fe and immediately regret it lol 😢😂😂😅 I wish I just kept my Subaru lol
Love it! Can’t decide between the TRD OR Premium with the iforce max or the Platinum. A few corrections though: Platinum trim only comes in the iforce max motor Platinum towing capacity is 5,800 not 6,000 And Platinum MSRP is $63k. I wish it was $50k!
Maybe it’s time to trade in my 2015 4Runner Limited 4+4 but” I just now turned a mere 12,000 miles on it… And that’s no Bubba, never seen snow and, still has the manufacture decals on its frame yet…. Cleanest 2015 you’ll ever see……
I really waited to see this because I thought about an all in one vehicle and get rid of my 2 vehicles to drop insurance. I like the looks. The big awesome screen, yes please! I love this trim! Unfortunately, Toyota has lost their damn mind at $63k for a 4 cylinder 4runner. I was also looking at a Genesis GV70 too! Twin turbo v6 AWD for about the same money with better warranty and the app is free lol. Still haven't decided what I'm going to do, but at that price point, they pretty much lost me. It's just too much for too little.
I will go full electric before I go 4 cyl turbo or hybrid. Just wait a few years until the repair bills start coming in for these hybrids and turbos. There will be tons of suckers that still buy them though.
Only good thing about the new 4Runner is that it’s still made in Japan. Turbo 4 banger in a truck that is supposed to be used for off roading and medium towing? No thanks. Going to grenade itself.
Bro, exactly. Everyone talks about how ‘Yota makes reliable hybrids, which is true. but these smaller engines on a Prius v a truck-based vehicle are totally different use-cases.
I'm in the market and 99.99 % certain I'm going to buy a 2023 lexus gx460. For this kind of money I would rather have that V8 and all the extras and a third row.
I love the choice of word "sticky" hands. Very nice Joe. I have friends at the dealer and the waitlist is very long for this gen. The market will decide - Patrick Bet-David
Man! I like the shape of the Passport, but I also like the look of this. Since it's on a truck chassis, I think when I'm ready, I'll be looking at this and maybe some full-size options.
No, the tissue would be for me if traded in my Gen 5 LTD (225k miles) for this. How do you have softex on the Platinum trim? Also love the irony of the "Firing on all cylinders" comment. And do you at least get hood struts in the Platinum?
Just imagine, if Toyota had put the Turbo 6Cyl (of the Lexus GX) into this thing. It is an impressively great SUV if you can forget about the 4Cyl under the hood.
This is a bad take. Hybrids > gas all day having owned both. Problem is we are worried about the turbo 4banger vs v6. Time will tell. V6 hybrid would have wrecked!!!
You don't have to get the hybrid if you get a lower trim... But even if you do, Toyota is famous for building some of the best hybrids in the industry. And the nickel-metal hydride battery chemistry means replacing the hybrid battery in 10 years isn't going to break the bank. I'm ready for the new Platinum and I already have my deposit down on one.
I’m kind of more worried about batteries going bad or getting defective after a few years and turning into paper weights for thousands of dollars versus the turbo
I didn’t think they would go even more cheap plastic than the 5th gen but you can tell Toyota/lexus is cutting every corner they can to improve profits
Wow.. I was really looking forward to see what the new 4Runner would be like... You are 6 feet tall and you look like your head is up against the roof.. 11:06 .. And to be honest, it looks like your outward visibility would not be very great either.. I am 6 foot 2.. I don't think I can buy this new 4Runner.. The ceiling is too low and the outward visibility would be terrible for me.. I wish Toyota would have raised the roofline about 3 inches.. That would have really made that 4Runner much better.. What a major disappointment.. Plus, for the guys (over about 5' 9") that like to go off roading with this.. wouldn't you bounce around some when going over rough terrain?? Your head would hit the ceiling for sure as you bounce around.. Another reason they should have raised the roofline..
You mean 62k Joe.. I think they should have priced it at 50k for the Iforce Max platinum. Its way overpriced. Let's hope for a manufacturer correction on pricing!
Ya Got Nissan on the mind. lol j/k Found out Crown is going to cover roof paint and alternator on my Frontier at no cost despite being 4 months out of warranty!
Wow.. I was really looking forward to see what the new 4Runner would be like... You are 6 feet tall and you look like your head is up against the roof.. 11:06 .. And to be honest, it looks like your outward visibility would not be very great either.. I am 6 foot 2.. I don't think I can buy this new 4Runner.. The ceiling is too low and the outward visibility would be terrible for me.. I wish Toyota would have raised the roofline about 3 inches.. That would have really made that 4Runner much better.. What a major disappointment..
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"Toyota firing on all cylinders!" Too bad there's only 4 of them...
I see what you did there
😂
Lets not go that route buddy
built for traffic cruising :)
With engine replacement on the way
a v6 hybrid system with the 8speed would've made this possibly the best 4runner ever made
Who gonna buy Sequioa at that point? 😂
Well said 😆👍
@@vm2003 they would buy it, if the sequioa was a hybrid v8
Or the old 2UZ V8 in 03-09 4RUNNERS. DOHC 32V IRON BLOCK V8. Million mile motors
We bought a 2024 Toyota Grand Highlander late last year. It was a $50k plus car. It has a 4 cylinder turbo engine. Coming from a 2019 Acura MDX we immediately felt the difference in power. The Grand Highlander was loud and felt under powered for the size of the car. The hood wobbled even when stationary at a stop light. I say all this to say that it is possible they are cutting corners like this on the new Forerunner. More than likely, you’re gonna feel the engine struggling and loud. I wound up trading the Grand Highlander for an Acura 2024 and am much happier.
Test drove a new landcruiser and felt the exact same way. The 4 cylinder felt loud and does not compare to my current 2021 gx460.
@@edmlegend7224 Second this - there is no 4cyl turbo-charged engine that will not be loud, noisy and I am talking about a really bad sound of a noise - and of course the struggle to deliver power. Toyota really made a wrong decision to install that crap across almost all of their vehicles.
Agree, wife and I came from a 2020 Highlander and had a 2024 Grand Highlander Limited AWD for one year. The 4 cylinder feels so underpowered compared to the previous V6 in the Highlander, we just traded it back in. We loved the space and size of the Grand Highlander but the mpgs and 4 cylinder were awful..
I was so excited about the new 4Runners, and then I saw the 2026 Passport…
Toyota is firing on ALL 4 cylinders! 😂😂
On the Toyota website the 4Runner Platinum base price is $62,800.....the base price of the standard TRD off road..non I-Force Max is $50,000. the one you are showing us is $62,800
Thanks for that great info
Base ‘24 was just over $40K. 😆
You know what he was getting at if y'all all that stupid and don't realize car lots ain't going to have the same price 🤪
To think a 25 Nissan Armada made in Japan with 4wd and 8 seats starts at $60k. 😂😂😂
Absolutely correct. Just wait until the grease balls at the dealership get their hands one them. We'll probably be looking at 65-70k plus all the other stuff they want to shove down our throats... Single handedly the worst culprit of killing the auto market.
LOVE how you have special access so we can see inside! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Great looking truck. I want more than 4 cylinders though.
You are definitely not the first to say that David!
Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 💯
Between the 4 runner and Honda Passport.
I would definitely go for the new 2026 Passport because the interior has more spacious room!
definitely not going to be SUV of the year
I guess we will see
💯 with you ! 😭👍
Yeah I don’t see anything that’s Platinum about that, the Limited is just as nice and cheaper
SUV of the minute
@@RaitisRidesExactly!
I’m very glad I bought a 5th-generation 4Runner TRD Off-Road, one of the last ones off the production line in March 2024, with an excellent V6 engine.
No 4 cylinder turbo truck is going to be iconic
Only time will tell us !
I remember when people used to have tons of doubts on auto transmissions!
We will see
@@kpmmsupervision1297you are so right about that!
@@kpmmsupervision1297this is so very true 😊
(09:30) I like all the "tough" buttons for air conditioning and "serrated" knobs with rubber grips for the radio/temperature control
MSRP for Platinum IForce MAX is $62,000 not $50,000 as stated in the video
Thanks Kurt for having my back
That reminds me of Christmas Vacation
"The little lights aren't twinkling..."
"I know, Art, thanks for noticing"
How much does BMW X5 cost again?😢
I think the 2025 4Runner is looking good. It really stands out in the underground paint.
I can’t wait to see it outside in the sun
Beautiful looking vehicle but that I-4 engine is a deal breaker for me
You are not the first to say that
@@RaitisRidesSame here!!
Did you notice Joe, there's a button to adjust the high of the headlights?
Now, that's something every vehicle should have with a trailer hitch!!!
That underground color is amazing 🤩
Man, last time I had a Shasta was 1983...so refreshing
Those were the days
@@RaitisRidesBlack Cherry Baby!
Shasta cream soda for the win!!!!
You people need to DROP the price of these NEW 4Runners, MAN!
Pricing on all new cars is still crazy
@@RaitisRidesand this one will cost about 65k. Yikes!
Thats the one I ordered, down to the color
Of wow, now that is very cool
I can’t wait for an on-road test of this trim and the Passport Trailsport Elite!
Stay tuned because I have it coming soon
The brain says honda passport, the heart says 4runner…. or maybe i’ll just get a 5th gen
If it's a mid size get Mazda CX90 plug in made in Japan. If its a 2 row off roader, get GX550O made in Japan. If you need a proper 3 row suv made in Japan, get 25 Armada/Patrol pro 4x. Your welcome. 💀
Im with you. My heart is set on a 4Runner but I want a car for longevity so I may go for the 5th gen
Logic tells me to hang on to my 2000 4Runner that is paid off, cheap registration, and cheap insurance.
These new car prices are outrageous.
I’m happy with my 2022 TRD Off Road.
@@ajtulipsyep just hold off on getting a new car until you’re absolutely sure it’s the car you want I just bought a new car hyundai Santa fe and immediately regret it lol 😢😂😂😅
I wish I just kept my Subaru lol
I'm all for the 4runner...not bad pricing..love it
This one starts at 62k
I'm interested to see first drive Joe, but I got my chips on the Passport!
It’s going to be good that is for sure Chris
Honda V6 all the way
@@Jojo-ni2cgThe Passport is a unibody though.
@@Jojo-ni2cgthe new Passport gets the newer 3.5 V6 DOHC with GDI and VCM. Not ideal for engine longevity.
@ wow I didn’t know that’s to bad for Honda. Man are we glade we purchased a 2024 4Runner pro in underground!!
This platinum trim is getting really close to Lexus GX premium price.
You may be right about that
Nope not at all. The gx has gone up in price
Need to buy one, Toyota should export 4runners as well from US to other countries.
That would be nice if they do that
You know you're getting old when you start telling stories of how you bought your first NEW car for $10k.
Looks nice.
It does look great
Love it! Can’t decide between the TRD OR Premium with the iforce max or the Platinum.
A few corrections though:
Platinum trim only comes in the iforce max motor
Platinum towing capacity is 5,800 not 6,000
And Platinum MSRP is $63k. I wish it was $50k!
I think it’s beautiful in that color.
4 cylinder! Zonk!!!
Maybe it’s time to trade in my 2015 4Runner Limited 4+4 but” I just now turned a mere 12,000 miles on it… And that’s no Bubba, never seen snow and, still has the manufacture decals on its frame yet…. Cleanest 2015 you’ll ever see……
Keep it , these new runners engine sucks
This SUV looks great! I want to buy one!
That two tone interior is nice 👌🏽
Thanks Joe for the sneak peek!
I hope you and Lori have a great time. I bet you two are like kids in a candy shop!😊
I really waited to see this because I thought about an all in one vehicle and get rid of my 2 vehicles to drop insurance. I like the looks. The big awesome screen, yes please! I love this trim! Unfortunately, Toyota has lost their damn mind at $63k for a 4 cylinder 4runner. I was also looking at a Genesis GV70 too! Twin turbo v6 AWD for about the same money with better warranty and the app is free lol. Still haven't decided what I'm going to do, but at that price point, they pretty much lost me. It's just too much for too little.
I will go full electric before I go 4 cyl turbo or hybrid. Just wait a few years until the repair bills start coming in for these hybrids and turbos. There will be tons of suckers that still buy them though.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this new 4RUNNER
Toyota has been doing hybrids for over 25 years and these aren't the turbos you are thinking of from the 80's...
Joe you're supposed to say WE WILL SEE....😆👍@@RaitisRides
The Navy Blue Interior Trim looks great!!!
Owner of 2024 Toyota 4Runner TRD ORP in the Underground Color
That's beautiful!
Only good thing about the new 4Runner is that it’s still made in Japan. Turbo 4 banger in a truck that is supposed to be used for off roading and medium towing? No thanks. Going to grenade itself.
Bro, exactly. Everyone talks about how ‘Yota makes reliable hybrids, which is true. but these smaller engines on a Prius v a truck-based vehicle are totally different use-cases.
I like it but I really doubt we get to find it in the mid 50s.
We will see what happens
No customer is wanting twin turboed v4s where a v6 was working perfectly fine
It wasn't. The old v6 was underwhelming, outdated and didn't offer any effeciency.
@@user-mh5qg5jb7dWho cares? It was reliable.
@@user-mh5qg5jb7dthe old v6 could EASILY BE TWEEKED
A Badass Beast with a puny 4 Cylinder. Cmon Toyota. $50K tag isn’t bad.
I'm in the market and 99.99 % certain I'm going to buy a 2023 lexus gx460. For this kind of money I would rather have that V8 and all the extras and a third row.
I love the choice of word "sticky" hands. Very nice Joe. I have friends at the dealer and the waitlist is very long for this gen. The market will decide - Patrick Bet-David
Great review 👏 New 4runner looks niiice. My guess $75k otd for the top spec.
The SR5 just landed in California in our hometown, 57k for it so expect this trim to be in the 60’s or close to 70’s with these dealer markups
62k before markuos
I Totally Dig The Toyota 4Runner TRD Sport😍❤️🏁🚙💨!!!
i was there yesterday! i was looking around for you lol
I like it, Joe. The only concern is how reliable?
Millennial soccer moms can't wait for it!
Man! I like the shape of the Passport, but I also like the look of this. Since it's on a truck chassis, I think when I'm ready, I'll be looking at this and maybe some full-size options.
No talk about interior size comparison to the 24 4 runner or new Land Cruiser?
I’d prefer 18” rims with more tire profile .. nice video ..
I would wait for the Scout Traveler. Its a better bargin for whats being offered.
Love the look but not sure of the power train being a 4-cylinder turbo, Time will tell
Hey Joe who films your videos?
Viva the Toyota 4Runner! Plz reply
Que viva!
@@kpmmsupervision1297 Yup
Comes with free snow plow , can't beat that for 50G !!!!
I see what you did there
I think it needs lighter color wheels……..too much dark. Have Toyota change them Joe. Thanks ! 😂 GREAT JOB LORI !! 👍👍 🎥
You got it Tom! I will let them know you specifically asked
You can get the Limited trim which is the same as the Platinum with bright polished chrome instead of everything blacked out.
New design language for a legendary foundation.
More color options, please. Everest on platinum would be great.
Stay tuned, because I will have more coming
Since what version the 4runner is a 2 row?
Should’ve kept the V6
I have to admit I’m a Toyota fan boy. I love the look of it all. Great showcase and excellent camera work as well 👍top notch you two 😊
No, the tissue would be for me if traded in my Gen 5 LTD (225k miles) for this. How do you have softex on the Platinum trim? Also love the irony of the "Firing on all cylinders" comment. And do you at least get hood struts in the Platinum?
Just imagine, if Toyota had put the Turbo 6Cyl (of the Lexus GX) into this thing. It is an impressively great SUV if you can forget about the 4Cyl under the hood.
Who remained Scion XB interior?
What type of liquid do these auto shows use to make this glossy effect on the car ?
No lights on the tailgate?
Looks like the grayish-black pearl from the 190 E days in the 90’s
The 4Runner is so legendary. Just wish they didn't go the hybrid route.
This is a bad take. Hybrids > gas all day having owned both. Problem is we are worried about the turbo 4banger vs v6. Time will tell. V6 hybrid would have wrecked!!!
You can get a non-hybrid version
You don't have to get the hybrid if you get a lower trim...
But even if you do, Toyota is famous for building some of the best hybrids in the industry. And the nickel-metal hydride battery chemistry means replacing the hybrid battery in 10 years isn't going to break the bank.
I'm ready for the new Platinum and I already have my deposit down on one.
I’m kind of more worried about batteries going bad or getting defective after a few years and turning into paper weights for thousands of dollars versus the turbo
It looks shiny but the lack 2nd row seating is concerning
After every mile on the trails I have my man servant polish up all the gloss black.
Love that suv
I’m glad that u can share it with you Jimmy
I saw this in person. Feels super cramped. Might opt for the sienna
Hey Joe, come to Naples for the car show this year! Jay Leno will be there.
I will try to make it happen
Nice
I’m glad you approve of this one
It’s really nice but for 63000 you can get a bmw x3 or Evan an x5
Still waiting to see it in the wild. Then I can get a feel for its stature.
Reminds me of Sears Craftsman. Shit the bed when you already have a pretty good deal going.
Some of the 4Runners do come 3 row so that’s why they had the cup holders behind the seat. Pretty expensive tho
No thank you. Not for me but great video Joe. Can’t wait for your other videos
I didn’t think they would go even more cheap plastic than the 5th gen but you can tell Toyota/lexus is cutting every corner they can to improve profits
Wow.. I was really looking forward to see what the new 4Runner would be like... You are 6 feet tall and you look like your head is up against the roof.. 11:06 .. And to be honest, it looks like your outward visibility would not be very great either.. I am 6 foot 2.. I don't think I can buy this new 4Runner.. The ceiling is too low and the outward visibility would be terrible for me.. I wish Toyota would have raised the roofline about 3 inches.. That would have really made that 4Runner much better.. What a major disappointment.. Plus, for the guys (over about 5' 9") that like to go off roading with this.. wouldn't you bounce around some when going over rough terrain?? Your head would hit the ceiling for sure as you bounce around.. Another reason they should have raised the roofline..
never thought I would say I'm afraid to buy a new Toyota engine, but I am.
Interior is nice and rugged. Not sure about the outside. Something about the wheel gap.
You want less gap?
@RaitisRides either a bigger wheel, or a bigger tire. Not sure.
I'm glad the front was changed so it doesn't look like it's crying, like the Tundra and Tacomas do.
You mean 62k Joe.. I think they should have priced it at 50k for the Iforce Max platinum. Its way overpriced. Let's hope for a manufacturer correction on pricing!
The 4Runner has gone up in price, but so have everything else. So, with all the electronics, probably a good deal in the long run-ner.
Ya Got Nissan on the mind. lol j/k
Found out Crown is going to cover roof paint and alternator on my Frontier at no cost despite being 4 months out of warranty!
That’s great to hear
Wow.. I was really looking forward to see what the new 4Runner would be like... You are 6 feet tall and you look like your head is up against the roof.. 11:06 .. And to be honest, it looks like your outward visibility would not be very great either.. I am 6 foot 2.. I don't think I can buy this new 4Runner.. The ceiling is too low and the outward visibility would be terrible for me.. I wish Toyota would have raised the roofline about 3 inches.. That would have really made that 4Runner much better.. What a major disappointment..
Hope they won’t sit in dealership lot for too long like the Tundras and Tacomas
I am interested to get one for myself. Of course only, if it's for free. Otherwise I will stick with a public transportation 😊
Nothing said about the suspension ?
Only 50k for a high level trim?
I prefer the old design but with the new interior of this.
Thanks for sharing your insight on this one