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Penultimate nib battle, beats of the best! Pilot edition
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- I get asked this question a lot so I thought I would take the time to break it down for you all!
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I love Tsuki-yo, too! And I also have the same setup for my 2 823’s. Love the smoothness of the M but because I tend to write smaller, love the preciseness of the F. Perfect description, Kerry! Can’t go wrong with Pilot Iroshizuku inks. Ku-Jaku is another favorite. And Murasaki Shikibu is great, too.
So good to see you are back to make videos again. Thank you for putting out content and bringing joy to the people. I love every minute of your videos.
I tend to go towards a Pilot M nib in general. I have a F nib on my Pilot VP and works well for my notetaking. I intend to get a SFM nib on a PC91, a pair of PC743 with SIG & PO nib, a PC823 with a FA nib, a Pilot Falcon with a M nib, and a PC Urushi with a F nib, for the wide array of Pilot nib experiences.
That's quite the shopping list you've got. 😅
Definitely agree with the 823 M. I have that and a F nib. The 823 F only writes smooth for me when I use a Pilot Iroshizuku ink. I’ve tried other inks and every other one makes it an unpleasant writing experience. I have the 912 WA but haven’t reached for it as much. My LAMY 2k with a F nib seems like the perfect line width I was looking for (inbetween the Pilot 14k F and M nibs.
I really love my Pilot Custom 74 with an EF nib, Custom 743 with a FA nib, and my Metropolitan with a F nib. They’re all different from each other and I really enjoy the writing experience. Thanks, Kerry!
The difference in line width between Pilot's fine and medium nibs seems bigger than for most other pen brands. I have a Custom 823 with a fine and another with a medium. The medium writes so broad and has so little feedback that I often have a hard time writing well with it. I'm considering having it ground to a cursive italic. I think a Pilot medium CI would be a really nice nib.
Nice Job, well done. This should crtailyy help those with nib questions. Your photo comparisons of the two nibs were spot on. For decades I have been an extra fine or fine person, but beginning to explore wider nibs for special use. He, He, unfortunately this video has also sent the message that the time is getting closer to when I must get an 823. Thanks a lot Kerry! But I think I will wait since I am still recovering from last fall’s purchase of a Leonardo SuperNova 2023, Bohemian Twilight xf do to your influence. Still trying to find the correct for me ink match for it. Thanks again and keep doing what you do..
Great video, I have the custom 823 in fine. It's a very different experience from all the other pens I own (mostly European F and M nibs) and that's why i love it. And it's good to write on crappy paper ❤️
Thanks Kerry
Tsuki yo is one of my favorite inks too. I love Pilot Medium and Broad nibs, they are so smooth.
I don't want to spoil the party but PIlot blue & Pilot blue black are excellent and somewhat water-resistant, while Iroshizuku inks are not in general. Hope that might help somebody.
@@faniro4792 I have been on a quest to find a water resistant blue and blue black for the past year.......my favorite non water resistant blue is Pilot Iroshizuku Aso Gao....... But no water resistant ink I have tried Sings, like the Aso Gao!!!!!
Excellent, very well documented nib comparison (which I've been waiting for so long, thanks Kerry!). Why not making more videos like this? For those who know how you write and how you use your nibs, those comparisons are extremely PRECIOUS. I own an 823 with an M nib : I fully agree with what you're saying about it. I was waiting for your opinion and thorough analysis of the F nib, I do like crisps lines, with the M nib I feel my writing isn't "pretty" (although what matters is what we write and not very much how we look like afterwards, doesn't it? 🙂).
Enjoy your show. BTW.. the word "penultimate" means next to last. So upon seeing your title, I was expecting to see the next to last pen one would ever consider. Doubt the folks at Pilot are aghast! (just kidding}
Very interesting, thank you! It's hard to tell but the M looks relatively close to the B on my 823.
I like that you focused on the 823. I've been wondering what the fuss was about. I would probably get the F.
But you know how I feel. I love my Kakunos EF. They are just a scaled down version of a custom 74 EF and 10X cheaper.
Perhaps I enjoy them so much because I wrote with Uniball 0.2 and 0.3. Besides I can write longhand on notebook paper without feathering and bleed throughs.
Have to agree that Pilot nibs are great. My experience is mainly with the steel fine on the Petit1, steel medium on the Metropolitan, and a gold Script nib on my Elite.
Apparently the Script nib was made for stenographer and comfort in long writing sessions but not as fine as a posting nib. According to a comparison I found on Fountain Pen Network. That explains why the Elite is my favourite in my collection.
That all said, the steel fine and medium are nice and enjoyable.
I love the gold script nib on my Pilot vintage full size pen......it is in my top 3 nibs......and the entire pen was 40.00
I just wish Pilot would offer the 823 with the #15 Fine-Medium nib they sell on the 743 (which uses exactly the same #15 nib of the 833).
I love your face too ;)
Never tried the bigger Pilots, only the very small "filofax" sized Birdie one from the 80-90's, I'm more of a Sailor guy.
You have not mentioned Pilot B calligraphy stub nibs.
These are available on the Pilot Pluminix, the Pilot 78g+ and the Pilot Kakuno.
Pilot Posting nib would be my personal favorite, since I need to write down notes/translations between the lines, especially when I’m reading French literatures. it’s thin like the Pilot EF nib, but not as scratchy.❤
Yep, I also love my Posting nib!
Pilot’s M is, overall, the best in their standard range. I never really liked Pilot’s F, steel or gold.
If I had to choose just one, I love my Waverly (WA) nib best. I could easily live with that being my only Pilot nib.
10 or 15 size WA?
Do you have a "regular" gold or rhodium plated gold Waverly?
@@nesher666 I have the rhodium plated standard #10 14k gold Waverly nib on my PC 912.
But I’m extremely lucky to also have the #15 two-tone 18k Waverly nib on my black PC 845. ❤️
Ohhh, nice! Do you feel the difference between the two WA nibs?
@@nesher666 Yea, a little, mainly that the rare, larger 18k WA somehow feels a little stiffer than the smaller 14k one. But both are swell writers. The ‘perfect’ Pilot nib in the entire family. 🙂
What is the appeal of a Waverly nib?...Compared to a regular gold F Pilot nib?( I have an FA nib on 742, and it is way too soft for me)
My 823 M is so smooth but my natural handwriting is so small that I when no space in my ‘o’, ‘e’, ‘l’. The 823 F is perfect for my natural cursive.
Thanks for the comparison. I love my 823 with its broad nib.
Great video - I hate that there’s such a difference between the fine and medium nibs. I just bought a Pilot VP from Japan that has a FM nib and it’s great. I have also ordered the Nakasawa Decimo that also comes with an FM nib. Problem solved!
Thanks, Carrie. I love the Posting nib in my Pilot 912. It is great for my checkbook register and general notetaking and such.
Pilot steel mediums are just about perfect for me, as they are on the finer side, but still very smooth. Their gold mediums are wetter and run wider, so I prefer the fine-mediums for everyday writing, since they’re comparable to the steel mediums. The jump up between Pilot gold fine and medium widths is much bigger than steel fine and medium widths, hence the gold fine medium size.
The medium Pilot nib on my 912 may be the closest I have become to perfection in a writing experience. One day I really hope to try a medium #15 nib to see if there is a notable difference.
You don’t need to be wealthy to have a few of the higher end pens. The trick is to be smart buying and selling so if you don’t like something you lose little to nothing, and stop buying the cheaper and mid range pens.
Be patient, find a good deal and eventually you can make it happen. Seriously, if I can do it, just about anyone can.
To be fair I had to make sacrifices elsewhere and there were probably more important things I could have spent money on, but between selling off lesser pens and PayPal pay in 4 etc I now have about 10 really nice pens, almost exclusively Pilot (with one Namiki and one Sailor too). Along the way I bought and tried other nice pens too and lost little to no money when I sold them - some purchased new and others used.
Japanese medium nibs are my jam.
I love the Pilot FA and WA, and Music, and B and SM. The M is also good. I don't care for the Stub, which is too much like a crisp italic. (I have a VP with a stub, that I had smoothed out by a nibsmith.) (The best Music is clearly the Platinum.) I (mostly) don't do fine nibs. This is a very informative video. Good job.
Very new to fountain pens, However, in my short time watching videos etc.. One has to wonder what would happen if they placed a high quality nib on a cheaper pen. IOW, could One put a very nice nib on a Jin? Would you want to? In many of my other interest the excellence of modern machining and machine technology has made craftmanship simply expensive and obsolete.
U FORGOT TO COMPARE THEM WITH THE FA NIB ! COME ON !
MF on the Custom Heritage 912 for me :)
The coarse nib from Pilot?
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