Ukraine & Iraq Invasion - Timelapse Comparison [Every Day]
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2023
- Side by side comparison of Ukraine (2022) and Iraq (2003) invasions - every day.
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Odessa region was in error marked in the wrong color, pardon that!
@@comfortwalker4355 since the size of war are almost the same,most of Iraq was done by the US,like 95% of the war,and Russia also did a large number of campaigns,with support from Wagner and militias,and Iraq military rank then is higher than Ukraine now
@@comfortwalker4355upset putin s*cker lol, the video is not even saying that Ukraine is stronger than iraq. Don't bring politics here lol
@@comfortwalker4355 Since you bring politics here. Ukraine unlike russia is not superpower and thus rely support to other nations, It's funny how a russia still called a superpower even though it can't support it's own military and rely on iran and china
I'm from Odessa bruh. You really wrong, russians don't occupied us here
@@samuraiace454 I'm following the news closely since the war broke out, it would be impossible not to know. I worked for 1 week on this video and did not notice 1 time that I've made that error, until someone pointed it out in the comments. Pure idiocy on my part
And this is considering that Iraq is located thousands of miles away from U.S. so the entire American invasion force had to be transported halfway across the globe whereas Ukraine shared a long border with Russia that you can drive over.
Iraq was attacked by all of NATO and none of those countries were under any sanctions and the invasion was approved under the pretext that there were weapons of mass destruction that they never found
In addition, after the war began, Russia was bombarded with sanctions and today it is the most sanctioned country in the world.
Você acha que foi só os EUA que invadiram o Iraque em 2003? Você acha que a indústria bélica trabalhou sozinha?
@@missionario762 people like to argue the us needed help in Iraq which is total nonsense. The allied invasian force was 90% American. Yes the support was nice but certaintly not crucial
Ukraine today is a much more formidable and prepared enemy than Iraq was back then. Iraq had been under over a decade of sanctions and didn't even have an airforce.
Here is an Iraqi. The war is very different. We were stupid because of the American propaganda that said that Iraq would become Dubai, especially since Iraq is rich in oil. The army decided not to participate in the war in defense of Saddam. There were very severe sanctions against Iraq for more than 13 years. The people were hungry and the children were dying of hunger. Iraq did not have a single plane because the planes were destroyed during the year 1991, and one of the conditions of the United States for the surrender of Iraq during the Kuwait war was to abandon the Iraqi missile program, which was developed, Iraq didn't even have powerful missiles! It became clear after the war that everything was a lie and that the United States wanted to destroy the country, not restore it...
Надеюсь вы отомстите той же монетой
The army very much participated in the war, do they not teach you your own history in schools?
@@LaVaZ000 You look like an Arab or a Muslim? I had many of my relatives in the army at the time, including two of my uncles! Not all of the army participated in the war. Some of them resisted in Basra, the Republican Guard at Baghdad Airport, and Saddam's fedayeen (one of whom was my uncle) in Fallujah and Baghdad. Some Shiites not from the army resisted in Najaf. But what about the rest of the cities? Babylon? Nasiriyah? Mosul? Kurdistan? Most of them left the weapon because they hate Saddam! You didn't live at that time in Iraq perhaps? I was not adult at that time, but everyone was cursing Saddam all the time, as they wished for his death, thinking that Iraq would be better without him, including my family. With time it turned out that everyone was ridiculously deceived.
The bit about the “Iraq not having a single plane” makes no sense considering the U.S. had to establish no fly zones over Kurdistan due to Iraq gassing them
اخخخ يا. امريكا اقسم بالله انهم محضوضون بالاسلحة المتطورة فقط اما من ناحية الرجال. كنا نسحق على جثثهم
Iraq suffered from a comprehensive blockade for more than 12 years from 1991-2003, and that blockade did not allow Iraq to even buy medicines, let alone weapons, as it did not arm itself for 10 years, which led to the complete weakening of the Iraqi army. Imagine that your weapons are from the era of the Cold War, while your enemy has Modern weapons, in addition to the fact that Ukraine is supported by the West, especially America and Germany, while Iraq was completely isolated from the world, in addition to the rebellion of the Kurds in northern Iraq
Iraq got destroyed in 1991 too and the road to baghdad was open so they could have been defeated then too. Their isolation did not impact anything it would still end the same
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I think you should see the facts as they are and not as you hear، the blockade on Iraq, one of the most cursed blockades in history. Imagine, no medicine enters Iraq and no food, let alone weapons, as Iraq was not able to manufacture or import any weapon, let alone the repeated air raids from The international coalition, and more than a million people died during it. Do not say that the isolation did not affect Iraq if you did not even know what was happening.
@@banger2998 you wrong , if world not make coalition to isolate Iraq , Iraq may survive fighting with their regime like Cambodia and Vietnam nort korea, Vietnam got full support from China and Soviet , while north Korea got support from china
@@joyogggKids that wouldn’t matter the slightest the vast majority of the coalition was American troops, and the battlefield is what killed Iraqis forces. It’s completely flat and open in the terrain perfect for the massive us Air Force the Iraqi soldiers were practically sitting ducks. There’s no twist where Iraq wins the 91 war. It was doomed from the start.
Full support? So you think there were soviet tanks and combat airplanes in Vietnam? Think again@@joyogggKids
Iraq and Ukraine are pretty hard countries to compare though, one has the backing of the majority of the world economy on its side, the other is just a flat sandy place where the only hard fought battle was Fallujah.
And yet Iraq showed better competence and planning of their forces then Russia has.
@@andrewrogers3067 then why arent almost the whole of nato and ukraine attacking russia if they are so unorganized?
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@@hilarioushd7387 Because they don't need to, Russia is destroying itself lol
In fact, the invasion of Iraq was just the beginning of the war and something else. Ukraine imagine Trying confrontation with America and almost half of the world. Yes, there is no comparison
I think this comparison is a bit incomplete. Besides land gains and casualties, it'd be good to check such numbers as how many AAs and ATs did Iraq have, how many tanks and air force, how many major countries backed it with weapons, resources and intelligence, how much money was invested in its defense from all over the world, and so on. Then we can talk about how easy it was for the first army in the world to grind country on another continent to dust.
One is a country with one of the lrgest array of Soviet weapons of its time, with excellent soviet Air-defense, large amount of tanks and infantry, trained and supplied by numerous states before the war including the US.
The other one in Ukraine
And Ukraine still performed
@@Frontline_view_kaiser no Iraq tanks and weapons are a decade old cold war weapons and tanks while the USA and its allies or every countries in the world are more advanced than that against a country filled with flat desert with no fortification.
@@Frontline_view_kaisertrue, people forget that lol
@@Frontline_view_kaisermost of Iraqi tanks and equipments were Destoyed on Gulf war during the retreat from Kuwait where US Airforce deliberately attacks it,over 90,000 Iraqis and thousands of migrants were killed and its considered to be a US Warcrimes but its US so ICC has no balls to apprehend US military
@@Frontline_view_kaiserThat was true in the Gulf War, not in the Invasion of Iraq. By 2003, the Iraqi military had been crippled due to a decade of sanctions and intermittent bombing campaigns (Desert Fox, Southern Focus, etc.).
Ukraine wasn't heavily supplied with western aid early in the war as they are now, much of what they were using were their own Soviet gear. As the months passed, we now see them with more NATO-Standard gear, and it takes time to integrate these new arms effectively into your military. While they were getting military aid from 2014 to 2021, it wasn't anywhere near the scale it is now and was not to a level that greatly bolstered Ukraine against an invading force. So the argument of Ukraine being supplied by an entire alliance isn't as strong in this video which covers the first 46 days.
Bro Iraq military was trash back then
@@FreePalestine07462raq military was trash? it was the strongest military in the whole middle east
the problem is the leader and commanders that were stupid and incompetent
@@FreePalestine07462 No, it was actually one of the biggest in the world.
@@magneticfire7515 vs USA? Come on
@@magneticfire7515 Yes, that's why Iraq didn't have good air defences and even wasn't able to use its air force. USA gained air superiority in the first days of war, then they just bombarded Iraq from the air.
One was supported by 52 countries, and the other was fought by 33 countries.
Holy shit guys not like the US did the most work right? Cope harder Muhammad, you’ll never be on the same level as the American. Stop bringing up the fair argument
And still won, America had to leave in 2022 lol
@@patagonianpaintiraq's regime following saddam's hasn't collapsed?
@@fingersniff5520 What?
@@patagonianpaint Yes, that's why Saddam is dead now, lmao. 🤣
Apart from couple of mistakes in the map such as the northern part of Iraq being grey (Americans are there since 1991 and you can say it is similar to Crimea), this is like comparing a watermelon to a cherry. In 2003, the difference between the Iraqi army and current Ukrainian army that fights Russia is bigger compared to the difference between the US and the Russian armies.
1. Iraq was a middle eastern country run by an idiot while Ukraine is an ex-Soviet semi-nuclear country with the army being run by Soviet vets and NATO.
2. Iraq was sanctioned for 12 years and bombed right and left during those years before the invasion. + people were tired literally in every aspect.
3. There are lots of nationalists in Ukraine who are ready to die for their cause while I don't believe there were even few thousands in Iraq who wanted to fight.
4. Allies Allies Allies. Ukraine is supported by tens of countries who continuously replace their loses and has open borders with both Poland and Romania. Iraq (or Saddam) had problems with everyone around him. The least of his enemies was Jordan whose kings have been western puppets since day one.
Basically, Iraq lost almost everything in 1991, whatever left was destroyed by the UN or US bombing
5. Geography: around 1/3 of Iraq is a desert and impossible to defend against any force with air superiority (not even supremacy). The southwestern part consists of distantly built towns in middle of the desert which were skipped by the US. Ukraine, on the other hand, contains lots of forests and small towns/villages that can be used to stall the enemy.
I could count several more differences but this comparison is silly so these points are enough.
Honestly I think Russia lost Ukraine in 2014 they could have made of excuse to topple Kyiv and kind of have some backing
And conquered it easily, different Ukrainian military then
And the US was preoccupied dealing with IS at the time in Iraq… This current war is Putin’s vanity project as a result of him hiding from assassins for decades. He won’t win it but he refuses to quit. 💀
@@glennmandigo6069completely true but russia was not prepared for the sanctions in 2014 as they are now, so they would’ve lost financially in exchange for a lot of eastern ukraine
@@bla-tIn 2014, there were already sanctions for the annexation of Crimea. And sanctions are in any case better than spending billions on war, losing tens of thousands of people and losing the war. The only reason why in 2014 Russia annexed Crimea but allowed the war to begin in the Donbass - Russia is a country without sovereignty, a puppet of the US.
The Russian government is being used to strengthen American influence on Europe and weaken Europe.
@@bla-tThe Sanctions still destroy Russia’s future. They just didn’t have as much of an immediate impact as they
otherwise would have.
Russia is getting sanctioned by the entire western world which makes up about 70% of the global economy. All computer chips and modern technology and software is all made by western companies, mostly American companies. This is stuff they cannot get from China since China can’t make it themselves.
Ukraine gets military support from Europe and America, and Iraq did not stand with it, don't be stupid😅
Yes but ukraine get support after because was in 30 rank about military in the world and iraq was 4
Well people say that Russia could take on NATO, yet they can't even take on a nation being supplied by NATO countries 😂
@@LaVaZ000 it was more of a disastrous planning, it’s not that they’re weak but putin’s planning was absolutely destroyed in the start and the crucial thing is that he miscalculated almost all aspect of the war, Russia definitely have more than enough power to topple ukraine in a few days or week.
@@prishtinedardania5255 number 4 in terms of total soldiers
But that video shows the first 46 days of the two wars. During that time, apart from anti-tank missiles and maybe assault rifles, the Ukrainians did not receive much else from the West (well, even intelligence information), the Himars, the Pzh- 2000s, the Caesar cannons, the M777s, the many Polish T72 tanks, etc., came only after that.
Got into an argument with a guy about 2 months into the Russian invasion. He was trying to say the invasion of Iraq was similar to Ukraine. I was trying to say that he was brain dead.
The invasion of Iraq was unjustified
The invasion of both countries is morally bankrupt, I hate what the U.S did.
However, the U.S is way better at it
Hello i was that guy, after carefully reviewing your comment for me, I have decided that Iraq was similiar to Ukraine.
Imo the US isnt going anywhere. We understand how warfare and morale works, and we use it to our advantage.
That's a realization I had not long ago. On paper for example China gets really close. But they don't come close in terms of what is not on paper. All those less exciting but most important things are what the USA does best.
Seeing your last comments I understand your just a USA Fan trying to justificate war crimes.
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@@ArrobaMov bait used to be believable
@@mesolfmesolf No more
In the first 46 days Ukraine used only its own soviet gear.
Dude, they were delivered THOUSANDS of javelins and stingers before the war. Angela Merkel admited that Minsk accords were there just to buy time and arm ne0-n@zis, west never planed peace.
Thousands of them. Ukraine had a graveyard of tanks near Kharkiv and a repair/manufacturing factory there. In the beggining especially Ukraine had the 3rd strongest military in Europe. Let alone had enough power to fight Romania&Hungary at once. Now its 3-4* more time bigger.
I feel like desert storm would be a much better example to use. That was Iraq at its peak against the U.S far away in the Middle East in a different continent.
What Russia is doing in Ukraine is a cakewalk by comparison
Iraq at it's peak ?
Iraq was fucked with 13 years of sanctions and 2 wars no one supported IRAQ bcs USA controlled the world that time . the Iraqi Army didn't have spare parts for tanks and only 4 Aircrafts were operational
USA used ALL Arab Bases to start the Invasion. and THE American people won shit from this war only fucked up veterans and The whole globale south realized the true Face of USA after the lies were exposed
Yeah, it’s so good with sanctions, war against modern tanks and army supported by NATO, yeah so ez war against rebels with javelin, against Ukraine army with Drones. It’s pretty cool to see how American kids doesn’t understand what going in Ukraine, Donbass and Lugansk.
Except what US fought were crappy old Soviet equipment while Russia is facing more sophisticated weaponry against them. Ukraine isn't a 'cakewalk' by any chance.
@@prestallar4339 Except Iraq was considered the third most powerful nation in the world at the time. When Russia invaded Ukraine...
>>it was nowhere near as armed as it is now nor was it within 2 months after the conflict broke out
@@aionarkhe5260 Thank you, people keep forgetting that Iraq wasn’t some weak pushover in 1990
In 1991 Iraq had the 4th strongest military in the world (Go Look it up to Confirm). With 5000 Russian tanks(many of them were T-72’s), several hundred modern Russian fighter aircraft like Mig-29’s, Mig-25’s and Su-25’s and helicopters. They also had thousands of Russian SAM systems such as the SA-6, SA-7, SA-8, SA-9 and SA-10 which were modern for the time(GO LOOK THEM UP). Also had thousands of MANPADS. Iraq had a standing army of nearly 700,000 men
The US defeated Iraq in a month while taking less than 500 casualties. Destroyed thousands of tanks and armored vehicles, SAMs, Ballistic missile launchers, artillery, and destroyed or grounded all their Aircraft and the few aircraft that remained fled into Iran. Effectively wiped out their entire military
In 1991 and 2003 America gained air superiority over Iraq in a single day. Russia hasn’t gained air superiority against 1980’s era SAMs and aircraft even after 12 months. And in 1991 Iraq had a much larger and more powerful military than Ukraine does now(Relatively Speaking). Baghdad was the most heavily defended airspace in the world and was penetrated with ease by stealth aircraft
USA and how many other countries? If I remember correctly it was a total of 34 countries vs 1
Do you know how many people served in PMCs? They accounted for more than half of american troops in Iraq and they are not considered a part of the army, so no one counts their casualties.
The power of the United States is terrifying! 💀
Yes all this on paper and in the Dream of Saddam,in fact was a retrograd Arab army full of desertion
500 deaths according to Americans themselves... Yeah, trustworthy.
You didn't show the 3 months bombing campaign before boots were on the ground in Iraq.
There was no bombing campaign for the 2003 invasion
If you consider this, then we should start with the russian invasion of Crimea and the support, with soldiers and weapons, to the "separatist" groups in Donetsk e Lugansk.
What would that even be
nor did they show the equipment donated to each country (Iraq: ~10,000 surplus small arms and enough ammunition to use it. Ukraine: More US money than was spent during both World Wars combined (even when accounting for inflation) and more NATO tanks and planes than were respectively destroyed during every Israeli war.
@@mcjon5477 operation shock and awe, 11k dead civilians
Crazy how the coalition forces in Iraq casualties never broke 750 meanwhile russia looses a citys worth of a people in 2 weeks☠️
One important thing; air superiority. The Russian air force cannot overcome Ukrainian air defenses and they have preserved their air force and restricted them from operating throughout the entire war.
@@ericscott9029 To put it simple is that the US is way above in terms of everything. Love it or hate it
@@somerandomboibackup6086 Some people will get salty at this but that's how it is
@@somerandomboibackup6086Hell yeah, let people cope and cry, because they can do nothing about it
@@artos9406 "The US hasn't faced a near peer adversaries since WW2!!!!"
Like who has been a near peer adversary of the US 💀, man I love these cope
a very absurd comparison... Iraq has been subject to economic sanctions and restrictions from getting weapons for decades, even the Iraqi military industry has not had time to face America and Nato... only crazy people compare the Iraqi war vs. US+Nato with Russia vs Ukraine+Nato... while Ukraine has a rapidly developing defense industry plus the aid of modern combat assets from Nato countries and financial funds from the US and is even helped in terms of intelligence and access to starlink.
Ирак был тогда на 4 месте, а Украина на 30
@@Anti-Putinist 4th place on paper
In 1991, Iraq was far stronger than Ukraine.
Of course, if we compare that war to Russia's invasion this would be a very short video.
I mean... They were stronger in 1991 but still the same?
And in no way Ukraine was really prepared to face Russia. Even Zelensky was downplayed their intent until the invasion happened.
Iraq had a stronger current military
This is the difference between Iraq and Ukraine: Iraq is against America and 33 countries (and the Kurds), while Ukraine is against Russia only.
US was 95% of the coalition forces and would obviously have beat Iraq even if it was alone
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor empire? Are you laughing at yourself 😂😂😂
95% were usa army unlike Afghanistan
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor
What about Afghanistan and Vietnam you are all cowards ,
The reason why we lose is cuz we were alone against the devil's of west
Iraq got curbstomped.
Iraq was invaded in 45 days. The Russians, they have not been able to capture Ukraine for more than a year. Although the Red Army launched an offensive against Kharkov during the Great Patriotic War in August 1943, and in July 44 or October, I don’t remember exactly, they were already standing at Kovel.
It would be interesting, for comparison, to add the German invasion of France for how much they captured France or the liberation of France by the Allies.
Starting with the landing in Normandy.
Then, I think, it would be necessary, for the sake of objectivity of comparison, to transfer the entire industry of Russia to military rails, carry out full mobilization and start using the army fully. And not a limited contingent of military and volunteers as it is now.
Comparing 1943 and 2022 is absurd. At that time, the entire economy was on military rails, there was full mobilization.
Everyone fought in the Great Patriotic War. Red Army troops were gathered from all over the country.
Allies Capture Baghdad, Russia couldn't capture Kyiv. Allies Capitulate Iraq, Russia only occupies small parts of Ukraine
Edit: So Much Replies.
Ситуация другая: Россия воюет у своих границ, а не на другом конце света как США. +Ирак очень слабая и необороноспособная страна, не то, что Украина, которой помогает весь блок НАТО
@@edvas1830 а как же "братья", арабы и мусульмане, не помогли Ираку.
И Россия вторгалась сама, в то время как у США была огромная коалиция согласных.
@@edvas1830 Yeah, You are probably correct. Ukraine had NATO to help.
Iraq Vs 34 countries
Ukraine Vs 1 country
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لقد كان العراق وحيدا خانوهم اغلب العرب والمسلمين بل وفتحوا حدودهم وقواعدهم العسكرية لأمريكا وساعدوا في غزو العراق هذه حقيقة العرب خيانة وعمالة للناتو والغرب للاسف
Just shows the might of the US military (as wrong as that war was too) taking the entirety of Iraq in less than two months.
The might of the US military raping, torturing, massacring, stealing Iraq and Iraqis
And the dozen other countries that helped... It isn't very mighty when you look at the state Iraq was in before it too
@@pgbrytbackup8646 It was, sure the US had help, but 90% of the total combat in the 2nd Iraq War was fought by the US military.
The 1st Iraq War saw far more support from coalition members than the 2nd Iraq War, and over 3/4 of the total causalities from the coalition side in the 2nd Iraq War were American losses.
@@goatmapper True, you could say the same about Russia right now in Ukraine, too.
becaurce USA fought very raw , and killed almost 1 Million of civilains
all the ruzzian bots trying to find reasons why their 10 days "special operation" takes 2 years now are hilarious 😂
Sooo... Which Russian official said 3 or 10 days? Also, show the source.
By the way, Ukraine(second largest army in Europe) has been backed by 30 nations and got demilitarized by 3% of Russia's GDP(according to The Economist) so much to point where the average age in the Ukrainian military is 43 years old is 43 years old.
Iraq wasn't the 4th largest army in 2003. That was 1991 when they were invaded by 1 million soldiers. Bankrupt Iraq's 2003 army was almost the same size as the modernized Czechoslovakian military in Prague spring. Russia invaded them and finished them off in a couple of hours compared to the 1 and half months NATO took.
Starting from 2014 the existence and training of the Ukrainian Army revolved entirely around stopping an invasion from Russia and Belarus.
For Russia, the only thing their army has seriously done since 2014 is try to look strong to the outside world while decadence overtook every aspect of it.
The US Army has also been in top shape since the 1990s.
To be fair, I’d argue the U.S was at its most powerful in 1991
Massive cope, the US hasn't won a war since 'Nam. Inb4 Iraq. Iraq was botched and they got btfo'd in the fallout of the war by ihadis. They whimpered like dogs with their tails between their legs as they packed up their soy beans, BLM banners and gae pride flags when they left Afghanistan. One of the favourite events of Afghanistan was when the Talibros painted over a mural dedicated to that Masonic asset George Floyd
US army is currently extremely weak and pathetic
not Ukraines fault that russia could only flex muscles, while Ukraine built one
@@artos9406 you don't understand how war works. Nothing suggests that Russia isn't extremely strong
The Iraq war never got that much media coverage as the Ukraine war did
Western media outlets will never change, always hypocritical
ppl were so different back then.. much more cruel things were allowed to slip under the radar. media and the internet wasn't as available and informative as it is now since technology advanced and more people have access.
and i think a part that plays a role is that Ukraine is part of Europe, so Europe, the US would in a way tend to cover it more. just like Arab countries are more biased towards their own. (not that it's right, but most countries are like this ig)
@@PlasticDoll.Because Iraq war didn't effect world so much as Ukraine did , use your logic
@@user-rm8fm3ip5h I already know this.
@@user-rm8fm3ip5hwhy does Ukraine have in effect on the world it’s the poorest country in Europe and it’s not part of the European Union or nato
Remember that 1.5 thousand Iraqi armored vehicles were destroyed and 70k Iraqis soldiers were killed in their withdrawal from Kuwait under the armistice, and that they were under siege for 10 years and remained in the same equipment that the echo ate and became old, and that 60/100 of the Iraqi army left the service because of the economic blockade + 24 countries attack Iraq in one way
Actually Iraqis only lost 10 to 45,000 killed in action estimated and it’s probably on the lower side around 15,000.
Iraqis found out. 😂
It was a war crime to begin with as you can’t kill withdrawing forces
The music really makes it feel like there's a war behind this
Remember Iraq was blown to pieces in 1991 and was left with over a decade of crippling sanctions. The US wasn't alone and formed a coalition with other countries and attacked Iraq at its weakest.
Russia is invading Ukraine which has a good military and is getting billions of NATO military aid. Also in this case the invader (Russia) is alone and is the one with sanctions. Not to mention most of Iraq is just desert area. Most of its population live between The Furat and Tigress rivers.
These 2 cases are completely different.
Also the Iraq war is completely a scam for oil but Russia has a stronger case in Ukraine joining NATO and bringing them to Russia's doorsteps.
I hate wars and killing and I feel terrible for the civilians who suffer but in the end the truth is the truth.
Eaven prigozhin has said that ukraine was not threatening russia
The coalition involved countries like Iceland (Has no army) Eritrea, Columbia, El Salvador, Albania etc. Must have been sooo hard for Iraq to fight Nicaragua (who sent like 2 civilians as engineers, probably)...
USA was the main force, rest of the coalition either provided very little to help, provided land access, or special forces. None of which was the reason that Iraq lost. Cope.
@@readisgooddewaterkant7890 Yes. People like this thinks that countries have no free will and does not decide for themselves. Poland FORCED THE USA to join NATO. They went as far as to get Gorbachev drunk to sign an agreement that said they were fine with it. There is a reason why countries like Ukraine, Georgia, and the Baltic countries want to get into NATO, and that reason is Russian Aggression.
Iraq had more aircraft and tanks in 2003 than Ukraine did in 2022, that's a fact, also you are evil if you think Saddam torturing civilians is ok but Ukraine joining NATO for self protection is not. Joining NATO is a sovereign right of nations like Ukraine, invading them because you don't like their decisions is not. Russia is in the wrong
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor Violation of long-signed agreements with Russia. Ukraine is good. The eight-year bombing of the civilian population. Ukraine is good. The absence of a struggle against the Nazi movement. Ukraine is good. Confrontation against SOVEREIGN regions that have decided to secede from Ukraine. Ukraine is good.
I have a question where did you source your casualty data from…
There was an entire collation against iraq with many great countries and not. It wasn't just the US
I think you should take a look at who contributed what and you'd see the vast majority was carried by a single player
unlike afganistan or something in iraq it was 99.9% usa
They were sanctioned to death, their soldiers turned on their country and it's just a flat desert. Also the US just bombed everything till they surrendered, same old tactic.
@@colinhubble6667 Ukraine is supported by western money and weapons. Irak was alone against us and allies.
@@dasskodly Iraq also used to have the one of the largest armies in terms of equipment.
Reminder that the situations between the two wars are extremely different. The US is a much stronger nation that fought a backwater dictator with no allies. Russia is a backwater dictatorship trying to fight a much stronger nation.
From what I’ve read, Russia had the capacity to win the war in Ukraine very quickly. Reason they didn’t was a lot of things but the main thing was communication among the ranks and soldiers was god awful. Dudes were walking into war zones with unloaded weapons because they thought it was training. Nobody told them they were going to war which seems like something your men should be made aware of.
@@belowaveragedudewithanopin2249 One of the main reasons for Russia not being able to win the war is during the early part of the war, the Russian tactic was to weaken the defense with artillery and then move in troops. But Ukraine with the help of western supplies and HIMARs is able to destroy any supplies being transported to the frontline. So the main reason the Russians are bogged down and the war is in a sort of stalemate (For now, ukraine counteroffensive may change it) is because Russia has very low supplies, especially artillery shells and that was their main strategy the beginning of the war
Also russia is fighting its neightbour and usa is fighting on the other side of the planet
@@dasdas7752Himars didn't come to Ukraine untill summer 2022.
@@dasdas7752 something to consider though was that Russia kept their invasion plans top secret, to the point that most of the army didn’t even know what to do. Russia had a limited supply because they intended to perform a quick invasion and only equipped their army to handle a short invasion. But because nobody knew what they were doing, Russia didn’t act quick enough, Ukraine got time to redeploy units to Kiev,and the Russian army was quickly suffering from a lack of supplies as their plan failed miserably. Then there comes the misuse of tanks and poor commanders but I like to view piss poor communication as the beginning and arguably the main source of Russia’s military failures.
لو كان للعراق نفس الدعم الذي قدمة الغرب لاوكرنيا كنا سنحتفل بنصرنا في واشنطن
Это правда, ведь когда ты сражаешься не один а с поддержкой самой сильной армии мира думаю победить не составит особого труда)
It's your own fault that you didn't have like-minded allies😊
Yeah no, even with good weapons you would lose because US has stealth aircraft and good logistics, Russia does not
@@SelfProclaimedEmperorWell done, now let's go without propaganda
Nato bots really like carpet bombing whole cities and useless wars
Ukraine's army became the 2nd largest in Europe long before 2022, also partly equipped and trained by NATO. It was several times stronger than the Iraqi.
Ukraine has been building defensive lines in the Donbas for 8 years. And Russians did not use carpet bombings like UK/US did in Iraq. These inhumane methods of war have resulted in the death of more than 1 million people in Iraq!
Sure, i guess Mariupol and Bakhmut being leveled to the the ground is just humane ruZZian way of doing it huh, listen to yourself, you have been fed lies.
Bruh Ukraine was 30th! Germany France, and UK where WAY stronger. (Also Russia was considered 2nd most powerful at that time)Also they had only gorilla warfare tactics gained from NATO training, and a handful, of javelins. They mainly had old Soviet equipment, also Russia has bombed civilian apartments daily for 1.5 years now, not to mention they have hit electricity generators to freeze Ukrainians into submission (which is a war crime). and have killed civilians. (You can look it up). A Carpet bombing is nothing compared to what Russia is doing.
Massive Copium, Ukraine army was always in a bad shape since 1991
@@user-wp7mz3cs6g you're just brainwashed. Like a Soviet propaganda
Look at that Mariupol looked like after the Russians were done with it, any seeming kindness is simply because they don't have the ability to stomp Ukrainian cities like the US does.
It took 46 days and 750 casualties to take iraq, russia has been unable to take Ukraine in over a year and with around 50 thousand casualties. The woke us military everyone.
Don't compare Apples and Potatoes Mr. Expert xD America attacked a Desert Country that was standing by its own... America prepared their Ukrainian Puppet from inside starting with Anti Russian Propaganda in Schools... FKK the USA and its Allies... Glory to RUSSIA FREE PALESTINE
When did Russia say it wanted to take the whole Ukraine smartass
russian solders were lied to, poor planning, convoys got stuck and had no fuel so they got bombarded, the iraq war was doomed since america planned it really well and knew what they were doing and had great air support.
When the coalition forces invaded Iraq in 2003, no one supported Iraq with Lend-Lease, just like Ukraine is now. That's why it dropped after a couple of weeks. Ukraine has been supported by half the world for a year now, but the Russian army is still confidently holding its positions. She learns from her previous mistakes, corrects herself.
It is also worth noting that Iraq was under international sanctions from 1991 to 2003. Nobody laid sanctions on Ukraine from 2014 to 2022, for example. The Ukrainian army received instructors from all over the NATO alliance. She had many international arms contracts. Unlike Iraq, with which practically no one has cooperated since 1991.
But the main reason why the Iraqi army was not able to organize a strong resistance to the American invaders is a betrayal among the top military leadership. Saddam Hussein's orders were simply ignored by many field commanders or disobeyed. If Zelensky had been betrayed by his own generals, then the Ukrainian army would not have resisted the Russian troops in the same way and capitulated.
@@vasandra8903 its a fair comparison because Ukraine didnt receive aid for the first couple of months since many thought it fall quick.
@@ernestogastelum9123Ukraine could not receive new weapons until February 24, 2022, was it under strict international sanctions for almost 10 years?
@@vasandra8903Ukraine was also supported by American satellites and Reconnaissance planes flying around North and southern Ukraine border watching the Russian Military movement giving Ukraine and advantages to strike where Russian military position is..
Do Ukraine vs Vietnam war. That’s more fair. Iraq was internally collapsing under Sadam by 2003
There was no invasion of South Vietnam
he should iraq to vitnam war ! US invaded iraq with 140k. 5k dead and 35K disabled. Don't compare US modern weapons to stupid Russians T72 !
Fair? The us in both cases is fighting on the other side of the world. Vietnam has difficult jungle terrain meanwhile ukraine is dead flat and has a large border with russia.
@@Pluto_is_a_planet273ukraine is dead flat💀
Ukrain isn't really as dense as Vietnam and also that was half a century ago.@@nausus1083
We need more of these, incl civilian casualties and maybe also Normandy v Ukraine counter offensive. Great stuff!
Bide
One of those wars are made beacuse a lie, the other one is made beacuse a man's gread...
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@@laGranN-rz9tr🤡🦍🫵
What lie? How did Saddam gas the kurds? Poison gas is a wmd
Bruh
Russians in the comments are crying💀
No, 20k men dead in day 30 is completely inaccurate
@@ElAlamein3828do you have acces to internet? Check how much they left broken tanks/techincs when they reatreat and also why they did mobilization of 300k humans?
@@qui1li Yes, I am aware of this, but at 30 days, this is an untrue statistic.
@@ElAlamein3828open your eyes, russian government just ordered 260,000 medals for dead soldiers.
Don't compare iraq with ukraine
Ukrainian troops are also gets into the invasion of Iraq in 2003
Bro thats liy! Ukraine was neutral
@@AnnoyingDog1997
Nah its not
There's a photograph of them in "wassat"
There was no Ukrainian troops in Iraq they barely even had a military and had no reason to
What program was this done in?
Sadam was a stabilising factor
Iraq was invaded by a coalition of 27 countries.
Ukraine is getting help by a coalition of 27 countries.
Also, the source from which you got the casualties is the KFC menu.
Yeah 20k dead on day 30? tf is this
If you will use internet you will see how much machines and tank russia lefts when they retreat
The vast majority of nato did not help in the invasion of Iraq. Only Britain and Poland (as well as australia but not in NATO) contributed anything to Iraq. Some minor Eastern European countries like Bosnia and Bulgaria helped in the occupation but none helped during the actual invasion.
Scoreboard loser XDDDD
dumb amerimor@@Ducks0420
There is a difference though. USA was bombing iraq from 1991 until 2003 at this point iraq had 0% control of the air because of the no fly zone. Ukraine is not very strong, but they had support from all of EU. Once russians launch the invasion the west gave ukraine all what it need to resist. So in the end the russians couldn’t achieve air superiority
So basically, European nations, even without direct support, still beat Russia.
@@LaVaZ000нет
@@LaVaZ000They didn’t beat Russia the war is still going on😑
No they weren't. The US left Iraq alone after they bitchslapped them in 1991. Then they bombed them at some point(I think it was in 1998) because they refused to allow the UN to inspect their weapons. Then Bush went in and the bombing campaign only lasted a single day before the troops entered the country.
That shocked the entire Iraqi military who was expecting a one month bombing campaign like in Desert Storm and caused many of them to surrender or desert immediately.
@@jbstarkiller4626 I was just making fun of the comment, and the war is fake anyways.
Why is the Odesa region cut off in the video?
An error, pardon that
Comparing both is stupid. Iraq was attacked by NATO while Ukraine is backed by them, regardless of if you believe the russian narrative ot not. Also Russia has a different goal and is using a different strategy.
The west tried to secure iraqi oil, for that they simply needed to destabilize the country and secure the oil fields. Meanwhile russia is trying to install a puppet government and annex some territory, for that you cant just bypass mayor settlements.
The coalition had overwhelming air superiority so whenever there was any form of large resistance they could just bomb it. Russia is relying mostly on artillery which takes longer and is less precise.
True
One is a fight against one country, the other is a fight against numerous countries.
Almost all Ukrainian city names are misspelled…
some countries have different spellings
What did you expect from american 🤨
@@omphya6229 The official English spelling of Ukrainian cities in all countries is consistent, which is required by the Ukrainian government (previous spellings were left over from USSR colonization)
How do u do it?
Ironic to make this comparison cause I thought Russia would capture Kyiv in the same amount of time it took the US to capture Iraqs capital when the conflict started.
whats the dot that appears in iraq at 13 seconds
I think it’s a paratrooper
monster energy
Chuck Norris was dropped in briefly.
Impressive. Very nice. Lets see civilian casualties.
Much lower in Iraq since the coalition actively avoided them when possible, Russia actively targets civilians
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor It is not Russias fault that ukrainian soldiers are gathering inside of hospital, cafes and other civilian buildings
@@mgesoldier7690 Sounds like a poor excuse, but even if you're right, it's still Russia fault. Russia is responsible for the war, so it's indirectly responsible for every collateral damage caused by this war. Especially when it's caused by their rockets. As simple as that.
@@mgesoldier7690 yeeeeeaaaaa
500000 Childs dead under us bombardments, and you say that us avoid to target civilians? Wtf 😳
Do one of the victims side ie Iraq and Ukraine casualties
Not justifying the US' invasion, but I believe this video truly shows just how incompetent the russian military is in comparison to America's.
They are one of the best militaries in the world😑 it’s basically NATO and The US vs Russia
Putin's army is a lie! Let's go if you can't imagine with Ukraine how it would be with Moldova!?? 😂🇷🇺
@@laGranN-rz9tr The hell are you talking about? 🤨
But the situations are different. Iraq at the time was a weak country and US army fought Iraq with the help of NATO and its allies. US even offered my country,Turkey to join the war (and Erdogan wanted but our assembly rejected). Now Russia fighting a weak country with alone and Ukraine has so much support from the NATO.
Agree
Imagine if someone actually give free anti tank weapon and other weapon package rather than using Soviet age weapon.
It's a funny comparison.
1)Iraq is mostly desert - where rainfall is rare (if there is any at all) - Ukraine, on the other hand, is swamps in the North, forests of the East, roadless areas where everything gets stuck in (in spring, fall and after the rains).
2) In Iraq it is enough to block the logistics routes and everything will collapse - you will not drive a tank in a clean desert. In Ukraine, when it is dry - you can move through the fields
3)US propaganda and sanctions greatly weakened Iraq (it's like the USSR under the Iron Curtain, when the USSR had no one to trade with).
4)The army practically did not fight (Iraqi army)
5)while Iraq was weakened, in Ukraine after the coup, with the help of the US, the US and the EU, actively supplied arms to Ukraine and trained soldiers.
6) In contrast to the U.S., the Russian Armed Forces did not destroy all communication at the beginning of the war, and initially acted quite mildly from a military point of view.
7) Compare the size of Iraq and Ukraine, as well as their populations.
8) Technology - now the intelligence and preparedness of countries is much higher than back then.
9)While Iraq was alone and weakened, Ukraine is supported by the entire bloc of the EU and the US.
What’s funny is your jealousy of America. Ukraine was only the 22nd ranked military in 2022, literally everyone thought Russia would defeat them within a month
Go study the 1991 Gulf War when the USA easily defeated the 4th most powerful military in the world in less than a month while only taking 300 casualties. That’s how a real superpower wins a war.
Operation Desert Storm was the most successful military campaign in history. Such a decisive and crushing victory over the 4th most powerful military in the world has never been done before
the language of facts! Handsome)
The only mistake you made is Ukraine didn’t had a coup .
The Yanukhovych literally just ran froma country to Russia with responded with invasion of Donbas and Crimea .
Us supplies weren’t as big until 24th febuary .
@@CatscounteratackThe constitution of Ukraine requires impeachment
Short by 10 votes
but USA dont have borders with Iraq, but russia have borders with Ukraine AND russia can use WAY more solders and tanks against Ukraine than USA against Iraq, and Iraq has way more mobilized manpowers.
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And LIBERTY! 🇺🇸🤑👍🏻
I wish America took as many resources as the memes like to say.
@@shawnkivlin3238
why
Западная пропоганда на столько примитивна, 30.000 убитых солдат ВСРФ за 46 дней когда было доказано что потери 2.700 но Щойгу сказал о 3.500 примерно.
Пригожин заявлял что погибло более 100 тысяч человек
Thats not at all how the iraq war invasion happened
Rutba didn’t have any use troops until later when baghdad fell
The Iraqi people do not surrender and forget their right, even after years, as a struggling and patient people ❤
they did surrender.
The Iraqis got curbstomped. Lmao.
Ye comical Ali said that right?
@@shawnkivlin3238You dont know history do you? Everyone even the iraqi soldiers literally betrayed saddam hussein and instead they went to help the US soldiers kill saddam hussein, basically our soldiers surrendered because they wanted to kill saddam hussein and they hated him very much, they thought they were gonna get a good life but USA bamboozled the iraqis, plus im pretty sure 35k US soldiers died in iraq 2003-2011
@@shawnkivlin3238Not really, 2003-2011 insurgency was a perfect example.
The two wars are really uncomparable though? Not on the side of Russia, but Ukraine would have fallen within weeks had it been in the same situation as Iraq. Iraq by the point of Desert Storm was an backwater dictatorship, incredibly disloyal population with a military akin to North Korea, ie humongous manpower wise, but choked logistically, decades outdated equipment etc. Iraq faced a Coalition of the worlds richest nations, including the US who spends more on their military than the next couple powers combined...
Ukraine, meanwhile? Ukraine is the largest country in Europe apart from Russia, Ukraine has a population loyal to the government, Ukraine's geography is vast, and mostly flat, but also pretty densely populated throughout, however most importantly Ukraine has backing from the entirety of NATO who collectively make up a good portion of the worlds economy. Ukraine has received more in military aid than the whole annual budget of Russia multiplied and definitely vastly more than Ukraine's own military budget. If Ukraine had no allies, was sanctioned for years beforehand , then it would have gone exactly the same way as Iraq.
Iraq in 2003 had more tanks and aircraft than Ukraine did in 2022
That are Russian casualties or Ukrainian casualties
Russian
for every Ukrainian dead 2.5 Russian are killed you do the math
@lt4109 damn that's some alien math right there. bro living in the second dimention...
The war in Ukraine already happened since 2014, not 2022. NATOs involve & help fortify the defense line against Donbass military forces & Russia
Ukraine rank 15
Iraq rank 62
Ukraine nati vs rusia
Nato vs iraq 30 vs 1
Единственный адекватный человек
62nd?? Where did you make up that fact?? Iraq was considered to be the 4th biggest military at the time. And before the invasion Ukraine was considered the 30th. The coalition involved countries like Iceland (Has no army) Eritrea, Columbia, El Salvador, Albania etc. Must have been sooo hard for Iraq to fight Nicaragua (who sent like 2 civilians as engineers, probably)...
USA was the main force, rest of the coalition either provided very little to help, provided land access, or special forces. None of which was the reason that Iraq lost. Cope, you are as dumb as I would expect someone with a stalin profile picture to be.
russians border Ukraine and can use much more men and equipment to invade, russian soldiers were trained to fight in similar terrain, US soldiers in the desert fight clearly worse than Iraqis who were born there, Iraq had a significant superiority in the number of soldiers, it was just that the US carried out the operation better than russia for its terrorist operation.
@@IzIkrutброу що????
This proves America is much stronger than Russia Ukraine is Europe’s poorest country and Iraq was 4th strongest army in that time and Ukraine is neighborhood of Russia which is easy to conquer while America came from thousands miles
(COALITION FORCES)
@@MajinBuu211 don’t forget 800 us bases worldwide that’s make America very strong impossible to fight USA
Did bro just compared a country that very one declared war on and a country that every one supports?
Also Iraq before the American Invasion: Iran-Iraq War, The Kuwaiti Invasion/Liberation
I wouldn’t compare this two wars, because Iraq terrain was very different, it was desert which is very suitable for aircrafts, Iraq had very air defence systems and their army was quite a mess after Gulf War while in Ukraine Ukrainian Army was preparing for 8 years for Russian invasion, terrain was much different, Ukraine has support of global economies of the world and war became static again just like WW1 with lot’s of fortifications and drones entered game too.
Cope
PVO systems? Maybe air defence systems 😂?)
Iraq has been besieged for tens of years and its army was destroyed in previous wars, and there was also internal resistance in Iraq, and we do not forget that Iraq was directing NATO.
It hasn't been besieged for tens of years, maybe in history, but definitely not during the war lol
@@LaVaZ000лол
Iraq was being invaded by the majority of the world unlike ukraine
Watching an invasion via map is like watching a cancer tumour spread. It kills the state.
Like comparing apples and oranges.
On the left is actual "special military operation" on the right is straight up war
@@grievetan Baghdad bombing footage : I'm I a joke to you ?
@@WhatAboutYou123 cope
@@grievetan at least I have eyes.
I am Iraqi, and I say that it is stupid to compare the American occupation of Iraq and Russia's liberation of the Slavic people of Ukraine. America is thousands of miles away from Iraq. Despite that, it presented to occupy Iraq under ridiculous pretexts, as Iraq was not threatening it, while Russia took military action to protect its citizens from the Ukrainians who were threatening Russia daily. Inwa also that Ukraine was part of the coalition forces that invaded Iraq. How pathetic it is when we see them crying over the media because of the Russian intervention in their country, but they forgot at the same time that their country was involved in crimes against innocent Iraqis, even though the Iraqis did not have any enmity. Or a problem with the Ukrainians.
It's opposite.
Eaven prigozhin has said that ukraine was not threatening russia
@@readisgooddewaterkant7890 He talking Bullsht. It was already proved.
@@ArsenTedeev russia has no troops in Kalliningrad now and nato is not invading Kalliningrad. Explain that
@@readisgooddewaterkant7890 Bro, what? 😂😂😂
NATO is not stupid. Invading Russia (Kaliningrad) = declaration of war on Russia = nuclear war. NATO can only fight with Russia through secondary countries, do not directly dare.
And what does NATO have to do with it when we talked about Ukraine? Remember what European leaders said about the Minsk agreements? They signed them only to postpone the war with Russia and to stuff Ukraine with weapons. And how should Prigozhin know about the goals of the special operation and the actions of the Ukrainian nationalists? He is just the leader of a private military company, he is not a politician.
Now do one with Afghanistan
fun fact majoirity of iraqi tanks were t 55 and there ifvs were only bmp1
Les deux invasions visent des buts similaires et sont les symptômes d un monde dirigé par des vautours.
When did the US annex any Iraqi land? Like Russia annexed Ukrainians land
They annexed the Iraqi’s government it’s much better than annexing a land haha and USA annexed the Iraqi’s oil too !
It's expected.ukraine+30+ vs Russia while Iraq vs 30+1.its that fair.
The coalition involved countries like Iceland (Has no army) Eritrea, Columbia, El Salvador, Albania etc. Must have been sooo hard for Iraq to fight Nicaragua (who sent like 2 civilians as engineers, probably)...
USA was the main force, rest of the coalition either provided very little to help, provided land access, or special forces. None of which was the reason that Iraq lost. Cope.
Also, no country is fighting alongside Ukraine. It's not 30+1 vs Russia. Keep coping.
Also, I know you deleted your reply but nobody mentioned warcrimes. Furthermore while the invasion of Iraq just like the Invasion of Ukraine was unjustified and had many warcrimes, it didnt see the systematic and ordered genocide of towns and cities. Most warcrimes were done on the squad-level in Iraq, compared to high ranking generals ordering to shoot civilians on sight in an entire city (i.e Bucha)
@@magneticfire7515 yea maybe but after d invasion they(countries) keep silent.but before d invasion US is been warned by IAEA and UN (Kofi Annan)about starting invasion of Iraq (2003).
US did 95% of the work and would have beat Iraq alone, you know that. Russia is not at war with anyone but Ukraine alone
It is like comparing "blue" and "oval"...
Well.....russia needed to lear from the oil wars in the middle east....they just discovered like 3 weeks ago how to use infantry next to armor and still dose that on a small portion of the frontline
Well, Yes. But have you heard about Spetsnaz. Most of the head to toe fighting was done by Spetsnaz and Kadroyrite. Still your millions dollars equipment couldn't fully defend mariupol, bakhmut, soledar, Avdiivka, etc 😂😂😂. Keep the normal infantry out of the equation. Just look at the paratroopers and Kadroyrite. They fought with no armour or tank support.
'murica was fighting dudes in pajamas, Russia is fighting a semi-professional army with the help of half the planet(training, equipement, intelligence)...
USA was fighting the world's 4th strongest military, not some dudes in pajamas. They outperformed them so well that you all remember them as some dudes in pajamas though.
This shows the differences between a powerful army (USA) and a horde of undisciplined lansquenets (Russia) in an armed conflict.
No this shows the difference between attacking a prepared enemy with military and financial backing from majority of the 1st world and attacking a backwater third world country that is in chaos with civil war and ethnic conflicts all led by a paranoid dictator that could give Stalin a run for his money. With a military that is using weapons from the 1970s against modern stat of the art equipment.
No this shows America stomping on the fourth strongest military in the world at the time in 1 month@@mattbanco4406
Vietnam?
Iraq war 2 in not comparable to Ukraine because the US had total air superiority for years when I remember Clinton bombing factories with suspected military manufacturing but it turned out to be pharmaceuticals, didn't have any allies giving them weapons and training pre invasion, Iraq war 1 decimated their forces, sanctions destroyed their economy and lowered health rates. I only can think of the Spanish civil war to compare it to as I watched the Coup of 2014 happen and multiple factions broke off with Stalin, london and the US supplying one side with the opposed as the mid century Germans and Italians.
too bad it s not in scale
it's what I originally wanted to do, but bit of UA goes off map then (or Iraq ends up looking bit too small)
War in Iraq and war in Ukraine are uncomparable. Iraq in the 2000s had a 70s ers tech, no aircraft. Also Iraq is much more poor than Ukraine, and also Iraq is much more poor with comparison with USA than Ukraine with comparison with Russia (they equal). Military power depends on economic power, so GDP per cappita is a main index that shows military quality. Also, Russia have 140 million population against 40 million Uktaine, while USA had 300 million population against 20 million of Iraq, not counting population of other Western countries
Be quiet you’re going to ruin all the NAFO bot arguments. 😂
US population in 1990 - 248 million people
iraq population in 1990 - 18 million people
(comparing population i think is a bad idea because the war was on the other side of the world for the united states)
iraq army - 650 000 people
coalition army - 950 000 people (700 000 people is us troops)
us world rank in military - 1st
iraq world rank in military - 4st
(although Iraq had fewer troops, they had time to prepare for a special operation from the coalition, so I think it’s not right to justify Iraq).
@@EduardSturua we are talking about 2003 Iraq war, 1990 population data is irrelevant. Iraq had poor equipped, untrained army with low morale. This is a lie that Iraq had "4rd army in the World"
@@arty5876 Jesus fuck stop with the coping. Iraq being number 4 or 69 didn’t matter, the US would steamroll them anyways, it’s not the US fault if the US is superior, this isn’t a game. It’s real life
@@arty5876I think Iraqs army was superb the problem was the majority did not wanna fight for Saddam since a majority of Iraqis are Shias. While Saddam was Sunni and quite impopular.
Do Gulf War comparison!
ok show the civilian casualties time lapse comparison.
there is something you were wrong with, the americans lost over 3k soldiers in the first days of the invasion of iraq including 2k soldiers died in the baghdad international airport but in the entire war the american defense ministry announced that they lost over 40k soldiers in 2008 and over 228k soldiers were wounded
but there is a website i will name it in my reply that they lost over 73k soldiers in iraq.
in ukraine the ukrainians also resisted the russian invasion and they made the russians lose over 8k soldiers and over 600 tanks in one year but there is one we can agree with zelensky without nato would be wiped out although the ukrainians would resist but not strong like the modern resistance.
in iraq the country was isolated and with no military support but although they have managed to make the americans suffer a lot in just two weeks though
the main difference here is the russians wanted to invade ukraine because they wanted to prevent nato influence over eastern europe but in iraq the americans invaded the country because they wanted it for oil ( i explained this in my history of iraq video ) but the big problem they suffered is the immortal insurgency that the us failed to topple ( i have watched dozens of videos of iraqi militant groups recording videos of them killing americans and destroying their vehicles )
but in the end both wars are stupid because the ones who made it could have solved with simple solutions
you should reconsider getting your American news from North Korea
What
@@GameWatcher545 no i searched in websites and it was true and also north korea has no ties with iraq war
@@LaVaZ000 yup it is true my friend the website i searched is called view
@@LaVaZ000 zone
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We in iraq we looked at American as liberate. So there no actual resistance also We were under the rule of a tyrant and we wanted to be free from him ther is no real battle in 2003 the real resistance begin in 2005 /2006
Actual superpower doing superpower things (close your eyes if you're Russian)
It is interesting to see russians advancing in Ukraine during the first days of the war. It seemed they went faster compared to the US forces did in Iraq 2003 despite Iraq had easier terrain, less military capabilities and lower morale. Also respect to Ukrainian forces for standing up and defending their countries and hope people realise that even many russian solidiers are people like us, they could be someone's dad, brother, uncle and son.
What are you talking about, don't you see that red line in western Iraq? US advanced 600km in the first days while Russia advanced no deeper than 150km
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor Unmanned desert area yes. The majority of iraqi forces were inside city. This to avoid high casualities if they advanced outside of the city, then the same scenario in desert storm would have been repeated. The US forces outsmart iraqis by just bypassing the city reaching Karbala Gap and further Baghdad international Airport. Iraqis were prepared there but with not much effect as the US main forces(gravity/concentration forces) were gathered there which led to the crush of the iraqi forces. No main battles were inside Baghdad as Saddams own son led the iraqi republican gards. My regards.
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor Estados Unidos + 32 países
@@luisfernandogarciaborges8 estados unidos hizo 95% de Todo El trabajo, es obvio que estados unidos gana contra Iraq hasta solos
Iraq is a smaller area of operations, Iraq only posessed very old Soviet equipment, Iraq wasn't getting any material support from abroad, most of Iraq is desert which makes it more favourable for tank breakthroughs in comparison to northern Ukraine where you can hide AT equipment in the bushes.
It was also located way off into another part of the world, not on USA’s doorstep like Ukraine is with Russia.
Also Ukraine is very flat, less the Iraq, but still pretty flat, a WW2 documentary will tell you the same thing.
@@user-wp7mz3cs6g US has allies in the area (Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia) which allows US to shorten the supply routes, and the smaller area of operations also plays its part when we talk about supplies.
@@user-wp7mz3cs6g Not entirety of Ukraine is flat, also most of the areas in the northern part is covered with forests, meanwhile Donbass is entirely just factories and residential buildings which makes it a fortified area on its own (unless you level everything to the ground with artillery)
@@user-wp7mz3cs6g also do not forget about rivers, especially Dniepr which is pretty large.
Operation Iraqi Freedom could've been a nightmare if coalition forces didn't have NVGs and optics
Unlike the russians using ak74m and had no NVGs
Still wouldnt be as much casualties but you are admitting that America equipment is far superior to Russia
How long till we can make jokes about russian tanks reverse gears?
How many countries supported Iraq? How many warehouses with Soviet weapons were there in Iraq? How many personnel trained in the Soviet army were in Iraq? Two armies that have gone through the same school of the Soviet ground army are fighting the same way
That's my favorite. People forget that Ukraine and Russia were the same country 40 years ago, and pretty friendly until like 2014 give or take, with similar equipment. Like, I'm no expert but fighting against someone who knows how you fight is probably hard.
1vs1 🇺🇦
42 vs1🇮🇶
Iraq hell started in 2004
31 vs 1
NATO help Ukraine
@@bulgarianempire5628 yes
A proxy war is not a full blown war, russia is fighting against ukraine and only ukraine, by your logic the US lost in vietnam because it was fighting against china and the USSR
@@b3ygghsas This is what I meant. If the Arabs and Russia had supported Iraq in a war, Iraq would have become Vietnam again
@@skylar8280 Iraq was crawling with soviet equipment and was the 4th most powerful country in the gulf war yet it lost the war spectacularly
iraq military was bombed by us airforce before they got back to iraq from kuwait so they had no chance also 19 country helped in the invasion of iraq what kinda comprison is this xd
this was not even NATO just UK and the US